Scott Oiler is sooooo good i'm surprised that m/c makers don't fit 'em as standard!! I had a Trophy Three as a regular bike and adjusted its chain every week. when I fitted a Scott oiler I adjusted its chain once a month. My Tiger 955i has Scott oiler now. I think people who don't get on with them haven't read the instructions carefully enough - Scott oiler can be fine-tuned at a touch, going from tarmac to dust. You save loadsa time and money in the chain department
Agreed!! Mine works perfectly and really doesn’t make a mess or collects hardly any dirt, it kind of washes the chain and sprocket with oil as it lubes. Thanks for watching
I use scottoilers now since about 25 years, and if I had to guess, they saved me at least 8 sets of chain+sprockets, if not more. I think I am on my 4rth bottle of oil since installing the first oiler. They are the greatest invention since sliced bread.
I had vsystem on my 2008 Suzuki Vstrom, I was very happy with it I had over 25k miles on my last chain, which was still in great shape. I traded the Vstrom for 2021 model and fitted new Xsystem oiler today.
Hi I’ve been using various incarnations of this unit for 20 plus years on every new bike I’ve owned from DR 650 to a hyabusa, and currently a gsxr1000 and a street triple . The Busa covered 35000 miles on the original chain!! With minimal wear, and was still good when I sold it. In short, I’ve never had to replace a chain or sprocket since using scotoilers, N.B. The oil also lubricates the ‘o’ ring seals and so reduces the power losses associated with dry o ring chain drives, the only additional maintnce I do is clean the whole chain and sprocket with kerosene a couple of times a year and inspect for damage, which everyone should be doing on a regular basis anyway, As for “ grinding paste” if you use tacky spay on lube periodically you will know all about grinding paste, next time you are at a bike meet and see one of these in use, check out the condition and general appearance of the chain compared to everything ealse, plus if you’ve ever had a chain fail it’s a no-brained!!!!!
My Son regularly got 36k miles out of a chain and sprockets on his VStrom 650 as opposed to around 12k using traditional cleaning and lube, great kit as long as it’s set up right
Thanks for the video! I am actually going to order the V system for my bike tonight. Have you noticed a reduction in chain adjustment compared to before installing the oiler? I think having lubrication for the external wear parts is a good idea, also reducing friction externally will reduce heat internally on the pins and rollers also extending the life of the internal grease sealed in them and also it should help preserve the O/X rings in the chain too which is critical to it's longevity. I think giving the chain a quick brushing with a grunge brush would still be a good idea to just knock off any dirt yet, but throwing the bike up on the center stand and doing that only takes a couple minutes compared to the cleaning and re-lubing. I have been using chain wax on mine. I have had good luck with Regina chain myself, however here that comes at a price.....about $220.00 for a new chain here, so if I could spend half the cost of a chain on oil to get another 30% life out of it I think that's a win win deal because I find chain maintenance a PIA. I do it thought to try and get the most I can out of it. This looks like it would take some of the hassle out of it.
For me it did reduce chain and sprocket wear, reduced chain adjustments once initial chain Stretch was completed. Also seem to reduce chain noise as well.
I just bought new bike and I decided to give it a try - I put eSystem, hiden under the saddle. So far so god. Only small issue: when I park for the night, I see few drops in the morning under the sprocket. I set to minimum already - not sure what to check yet or if this is a normal thing.
Can you confirm that you put this onto a well worn chain and sprocket set up? these oilers are supposed to extend chain and sprocket life and yours look to me to be mutant done in. At about 7:04 and again at 9:40 I can see that your countershaft sprocket is quite worn and you have some stiff links in the chain, visible where the chain is holding itself above the slider on top of the swing arm. The worn sprockets might be from before the oiler was installed, but I would expect the stiff links to benefit from proper oiling. Perhaps you are running it too dry.
The oilier was installed at or around 7800 miles, so the chain and sprockets have some use before the oilier was installed. It’s an o-ring chain in perfect health so links will appear to be “stiff” when just resting. Hard to see in the video but the sprockets are perfect minus normal wear, still riding the same sprockets and chain today.
I always fit Scott oilers to my bikes, my last chain lasted 42,000 miles & the chain was still with in the green section at the adjuster on my varadero 1000, but the front sprocket was well shot it. Looking at your set up you may want to shorten your ejecter pipe at the rear sprocket as it may get blown away from the sprocket in the wind wille riding. Thanks, Ian.
That’s a pretty good evaluation. I’m impressed that your wheel is not covered in oil, mine looks much worse than that using traditioanl chain lube...even motorex synthetic.
Yeah I was surprised as well, but kind of kept an open mind about until the end of the trip and that’s when I got sold on it. I’m 100% happy with this accessory. Thanks for watching
You mentioned that the system will keep the chain and sprocket clean and I think that’s awesome. I’m curious how it behaves in very dusty or sandy environment. Does the dirt or sand stick to the chain and sprockets initially and gets cleaned up as you ride? Thanks!
In the video you can see how clean the sprocket teeth are. Yes the sprocket has some collection of dirt but the teeth and chain are pretty clean. It’s basically a waste oil system and the oil cleans the chain and contact points. This video was filmed after a 1,600 mile through South Georgia and FL with plenty of sand. Don’t expect heavy mud to be that easily cleaned away with the oilier.
If you're still kicking around answering dumb questions, I have one. Could you use the vacuum off the petcock? I have a first gen klr and I'm not even sure what comes off of the intake yet.
Thanks for watching. The hose is completely filled and yes it was primed prior to use. I think the mud and dirt on the hose is what your seeing. The system is still working great today.
the nozzle that is in the package is it ok for you bike or is it better with the dual injektor?.My bike is honda 600 Transalp.Thank you best regards Preben
Scottoiler chain lube is £14:99 which is good for around 10-12 thousand miles. The chain for my bike is £85. Sprockets are about £80 for front and back. An extra £15 of lube to double the life of a chain and sprockets? No brainer.
Rubbish... I ride the bikes I currently own since '94, so 30 years now. I discovered schottoilers around '98. In the 26 years since, and well over 150.000 km (2 bikes combined that I own side by side), I went through maybe 9 or 10 bottles of oil and needed only 2 sets of chain+sprockets, one on each bike. The 4 years previous to having the scott-oiler I went through 1,5 can of chainlube per year, plus a full set every 2 years for each bike, 4 sets and 3 cans in 4 years, maybe getting 10~12K kilometres from a set. Way I see it, if you start out with a new chainset and a scottoiler, earnback is around 20000 km. By the time the chain needs replacement you have saved 3 sets. Every time you need to buy a nw bottle of oil, you WOULD have bought 3 cans of spray-lube otherwise. Every can of spray lube you buy, you at least have spent 2 hours on your knees messing with grease, and another 4 hours cleaning your chain and rearwheel and tensioning your chain. Using spray grease, you check your chain after every ride, and grease it basically every other longer run. Using a scottoiler all you do is roughly every 1500 km refill the oiler, and basically you completely forget you have a chain at all....
For a bike that just got finished completing a 1600 mile mostly off-road dual sport ride, yeah it's pretty clean considering the mess people claim that these oilers make.
No mess anywhere? There is a crust of dirt and oil on every thing. And at 6:41 you can see a stiff link. So the chain is not even lubed. Come on people just clean and lube it dont be lazy.
So.. if you have a sealed O-ring or X-Ring chain it’s not going to get passed the seals to live the working friction component parts all it will do is stop corrosion. Or you are debunking the advantages and requirements for sealed chains. Long term you will ignore regular cleaning the bigger issue is chain lube in general is bad as it’s too sticky. Using an oil soaked rag regularly and cleaning regularly will be cheaper and keep you checking your drive chain periodically making your bike safer. Used engine oil works well as carbon is a great lubricity agent and the oil will lube to prevent corrosion. Your X-rings keep the important lube in place.
I have two bikes with them on but have not bothered adding top ups. I manual lube and clean and I have 18,000 miles currently On my current adv bike c&s set with the current chain following the above info ignoring my Scott Oiler’s over one C&S change cycle. I had to change my set prior at 12,000 miles using the Scot oiler. As I found I went longer between chain cleaning which I fear ruined seals and led to grime wearing the chain. I clean with diesel and lube with old engine oil. I don’t think I’ll ever have a Scott oiler on a leisure bike again but I might consider it on a commute bike but be much more disciplined on cleaning and prime lubing. I currently clean and lube every single time I wash the bikes. So every two weeks approx or around 500miies. Give or take 150
o-ring and x-ring chains are sealed, meaning the internal roller pin is pre-lubed from the manufacture with a light grease. No matter what you use for chain lube you are not lubricating the internal roller pin on sealed chains. But a sealed chain still needs lubrication if you want to increase it's service life and here's why. The chain still has metal to metal contact, the outer side of the roller pin is in contact with sprocket teeth as each front and rear sprockets rotate. Also the chains side plates also make contact with the sides of the sprocket teeth during rotation. These areas are what you are lubricating with the Scots Oilier or any other method you chose to use. Also note the Scot's oil is not tacky, it's like a "waste oil" system meaning the oil is being distributed during rotation, lubes and cleans away the sprocket teeth area every time it displaces the oil. I think I covered that in the video but it's been awhile since I produced the video. Thanks for watching.
Dirt Hammers Off-Road oil will not assist on metal to metal contact search fortnine channel on chain lubricity tests 👍🏻 oil is simply pushed out the way it won’t hold up against the torque sheer pressures on a motorcycle. Maybe a slow machine but not a high RPM high torque Setup. Extending regular service intervals with a Scott oiler will cause more harm than more regular intervals without an oiler.
Dirt Hammers Off-Road regardless you are happy mate that’s all that matters lol I get more mileage from manual service than I do with the oiler so We shall agree you dissagree :) where’s the beer 🍻
Scott Oiler is sooooo good i'm surprised that m/c makers don't fit 'em as standard!! I had a Trophy Three as a regular bike and adjusted its chain every week. when I fitted a Scott oiler I adjusted its chain once a month. My Tiger 955i has Scott oiler now. I think people who don't get on with them haven't read the instructions carefully enough - Scott oiler can be fine-tuned at a touch, going from tarmac to dust. You save loadsa time and money in the chain department
Agreed!! Mine works perfectly and really doesn’t make a mess or collects hardly any dirt, it kind of washes the chain and sprocket with oil as it lubes. Thanks for watching
I use scottoilers now since about 25 years, and if I had to guess, they saved me at least 8 sets of chain+sprockets, if not more.
I think I am on my 4rth bottle of oil since installing the first oiler.
They are the greatest invention since sliced bread.
I had vsystem on my 2008 Suzuki Vstrom, I was very happy with it I had over 25k miles on my last chain, which was still in great shape. I traded the Vstrom for 2021 model and fitted new Xsystem oiler today.
I was impressed as well. They do work but most people read to much internet chatter.
where did you fit the reservoir on the vstrom? fitting mine tomorrow hopefully. not sure where i want to set it
I hate trolls that think their smarter than anyone else.keep doing what your doing
BACK40ADV lol gotta love the internet tuff guys and trolls. Thanks for watching man!!!
Scottoiler constantly renews the chain lubricant. The spray lubes are sticky and form the grinding- paste scenario.
Hi I’ve been using various incarnations of this unit for 20 plus years on every new bike I’ve owned from DR 650 to a hyabusa, and currently a gsxr1000 and a street triple . The Busa covered 35000 miles on the original chain!! With minimal wear, and was still good when I sold it. In short, I’ve never had to replace a chain or sprocket since using scotoilers, N.B. The oil also lubricates the ‘o’ ring seals and so reduces the power losses associated with dry o ring chain drives, the only additional maintnce I do is clean the whole chain and sprocket with kerosene a couple of times a year and inspect for damage, which everyone should be doing on a regular basis anyway, As for “ grinding paste” if you use tacky spay on lube periodically you will know all about grinding paste, next time you are at a bike meet and see one of these in use, check out the condition and general appearance of the chain compared to everything ealse, plus if you’ve ever had a chain fail it’s a no-brained!!!!!
Totally agree! These things work great. Thanks for watching
Went touring a few thousand miles and europe with a scottoiler vsystem and dual injector, didn't have to adjust my chain the whole journey.
Awesome to hear, love mine! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the well-thought out review. I am considering the Scottoiler for my ‘19 CB500X.
Thanks for the support and for watching!
Very helpful. Just put an X System Scottoiler on my Ducati Multistrada V4S. Can’t wait to give it a try.
Congrats and thanks for watching
My Son regularly got 36k miles out of a chain and sprockets on his VStrom 650 as opposed to around 12k using traditional cleaning and lube, great kit as long as it’s set up right
Totally agree! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video! I am actually going to order the V system for my bike tonight. Have you noticed a reduction in chain adjustment compared to before installing the oiler? I think having lubrication for the external wear parts is a good idea, also reducing friction externally will reduce heat internally on the pins and rollers also extending the life of the internal grease sealed in them and also it should help preserve the O/X rings in the chain too which is critical to it's longevity. I think giving the chain a quick brushing with a grunge brush would still be a good idea to just knock off any dirt yet, but throwing the bike up on the center stand and doing that only takes a couple minutes compared to the cleaning and re-lubing. I have been using chain wax on mine. I have had good luck with Regina chain myself, however here that comes at a price.....about $220.00 for a new chain here, so if I could spend half the cost of a chain on oil to get another 30% life out of it I think that's a win win deal because I find chain maintenance a PIA. I do it thought to try and get the most I can out of it. This looks like it would take some of the hassle out of it.
For me it did reduce chain and sprocket wear, reduced chain adjustments once initial chain Stretch was completed. Also seem to reduce chain noise as well.
I just bought new bike and I decided to give it a try - I put eSystem, hiden under the saddle. So far so god. Only small issue: when I park for the night, I see few drops in the morning under the sprocket. I set to minimum already - not sure what to check yet or if this is a normal thing.
Mine never dropped any oil onto the floor. Overall I loved mine.
Can you confirm that you put this onto a well worn chain and sprocket set up? these oilers are supposed to extend chain and sprocket life and yours look to me to be mutant done in.
At about 7:04 and again at 9:40 I can see that your countershaft sprocket is quite worn and you have some stiff links in the chain, visible where the chain is holding itself above the slider on top of the swing arm. The worn sprockets might be from before the oiler was installed, but I would expect the stiff links to benefit from proper oiling. Perhaps you are running it too dry.
The oilier was installed at or around 7800 miles, so the chain and sprockets have some use before the oilier was installed. It’s an o-ring chain in perfect health so links will appear to be “stiff” when just resting. Hard to see in the video but the sprockets are perfect minus normal wear, still riding the same sprockets and chain today.
I always fit Scott oilers to my bikes, my last chain lasted 42,000 miles & the chain was still with in the green section at the adjuster on my varadero 1000, but the front sprocket was well shot it.
Looking at your set up you may want to shorten your ejecter pipe at the rear sprocket as it may get blown away from the sprocket in the wind wille riding.
Thanks,
Ian.
Thanks for watching. Yeah the oilier works great. After a few miles I can stop and you can see the oil (wet) on the chain and sprockets.
Good bit of kit
You have got one crazy Catbird supporting your background soundtrack.
Nice review.
Thanks for watching! The birds were happy to be out that day for sure.
That’s a pretty good evaluation. I’m impressed that your wheel is not covered in oil, mine looks much worse than that using traditioanl chain lube...even motorex synthetic.
Yeah I was surprised as well, but kind of kept an open mind about until the end of the trip and that’s when I got sold on it. I’m 100% happy with this accessory. Thanks for watching
You mentioned that the system will keep the chain and sprocket clean and I think that’s awesome. I’m curious how it behaves in very dusty or sandy environment. Does the dirt or sand stick to the chain and sprockets initially and gets cleaned up as you ride? Thanks!
In the video you can see how clean the sprocket teeth are. Yes the sprocket has some collection of dirt but the teeth and chain are pretty clean. It’s basically a waste oil system and the oil cleans the chain and contact points. This video was filmed after a 1,600 mile through South Georgia and FL with plenty of sand. Don’t expect heavy mud to be that easily cleaned away with the oilier.
@@Georgia4Low thanks for the info!
This bike is not clean at all - it's rusty everywhere - so it funny to ask the owner :D
Thanks just order my one sounds like a good idea
Cheers
Jim Doolan I think you will love it... thanks for watching
ive been using them on my bikes since the 2000s. My rsv4 has about 25k miles on the oem chain and i just bought another one for my new Mt10.
I’m a believer for sure. Thanks for watching
If you're still kicking around answering dumb questions, I have one. Could you use the vacuum off the petcock? I have a first gen klr and I'm not even sure what comes off of the intake yet.
I no longer have the KLR but I believe the petcock vacuum line is what I used to “T” into.
It looks to me as if the hose is partially empty. Did you prime it properly?
Thanks for watching. The hose is completely filled and yes it was primed prior to use. I think the mud and dirt on the hose is what your seeing. The system is still working great today.
LOL that front sprocket is trashed... did you run the SEAT with it?
Yes I did plus many more rides and miles. Just changed it a few weeks ago.
@@Georgia4Low you selling it?
@@advridertim going to hold onto the klr for now.
the nozzle that is in the package is it ok for you bike or is it better with the dual injektor?.My bike is honda 600 Transalp.Thank you best regards Preben
I think the single works just fine. The dual injector allows for reduced flow rate, meaning more miles per oil reservoir fill up.
How could anyone think this would increase wear? I think most people (such as myself) don’t do proper chain maintenance, and that’s far worse.
Most don’t understand how it works. When using the proper oil it washes the parts off as it lubricate them. Thanks for watching
The cost of the oil you use to maintain the chain ends up being more than buying a new chain
It’s all about increasing service life of the chain and sprockets.
Scottoiler chain lube is £14:99 which is good for around 10-12 thousand miles. The chain for my bike is £85. Sprockets are about £80 for front and back. An extra £15 of lube to double the life of a chain and sprockets? No brainer.
Agreed.
Rubbish... I ride the bikes I currently own since '94, so 30 years now. I discovered schottoilers around '98. In the 26 years since, and well over 150.000 km (2 bikes combined that I own side by side), I went through maybe 9 or 10 bottles of oil and needed only 2 sets of chain+sprockets, one on each bike.
The 4 years previous to having the scott-oiler I went through 1,5 can of chainlube per year, plus a full set every 2 years for each bike, 4 sets and 3 cans in 4 years, maybe getting 10~12K kilometres from a set.
Way I see it, if you start out with a new chainset and a scottoiler, earnback is around 20000 km. By the time the chain needs replacement you have saved 3 sets. Every time you need to buy a nw bottle of oil, you WOULD have bought 3 cans of spray-lube otherwise.
Every can of spray lube you buy, you at least have spent 2 hours on your knees messing with grease, and another 4 hours cleaning your chain and rearwheel and tensioning your chain.
Using spray grease, you check your chain after every ride, and grease it basically every other longer run.
Using a scottoiler all you do is roughly every 1500 km refill the oiler, and basically you completely forget you have a chain at all....
Clean?? This chain and sprocket looks clean to you??😵
For a bike that just got finished completing a 1600 mile mostly off-road dual sport ride, yeah it's pretty clean considering the mess people claim that these oilers make.
No mess anywhere? There is a crust of dirt and oil on every thing. And at 6:41 you can see a stiff link. So the chain is not even lubed. Come on people just clean and lube it dont be lazy.
It’s an o-ring chain so yes links are stiff. The system works great even today.
So.. if you have a sealed O-ring or X-Ring chain it’s not going to get passed the seals to live the working friction component parts all it will do is stop corrosion. Or you are debunking the advantages and requirements for sealed chains. Long term you will ignore regular cleaning the bigger issue is chain lube in general is bad as it’s too sticky. Using an oil soaked rag regularly and cleaning regularly will be cheaper and keep you checking your drive chain periodically making your bike safer. Used engine oil works well as carbon is a great lubricity agent and the oil will lube to prevent corrosion. Your X-rings keep the important lube in place.
I have two bikes with them on but have not bothered adding top ups. I manual lube and clean and I have 18,000 miles currently On my current adv bike c&s set with the current chain following the above info ignoring my Scott Oiler’s over one C&S change cycle. I had to change my set prior at 12,000 miles using the Scot oiler. As I found I went longer between chain cleaning which I fear ruined seals and led to grime wearing the chain. I clean with diesel and lube with old engine oil. I don’t think I’ll ever have a Scott oiler on a leisure bike again but I might consider it on a commute bike but be much more disciplined on cleaning and prime lubing. I currently clean and lube every single time I wash the bikes. So every two weeks approx or around 500miies. Give or take 150
o-ring and x-ring chains are sealed, meaning the internal roller pin is pre-lubed from the manufacture with a light grease. No matter what you use for chain lube you are not lubricating the internal roller pin on sealed chains. But a sealed chain still needs lubrication if you want to increase it's service life and here's why. The chain still has metal to metal contact, the outer side of the roller pin is in contact with sprocket teeth as each front and rear sprockets rotate. Also the chains side plates also make contact with the sides of the sprocket teeth during rotation. These areas are what you are lubricating with the Scots Oilier or any other method you chose to use. Also note the Scot's oil is not tacky, it's like a "waste oil" system meaning the oil is being distributed during rotation, lubes and cleans away the sprocket teeth area every time it displaces the oil. I think I covered that in the video but it's been awhile since I produced the video. Thanks for watching.
Dirt Hammers Off-Road oil will not assist on metal to metal contact search fortnine channel on chain lubricity tests 👍🏻 oil is simply pushed out the way it won’t hold up against the torque sheer pressures on a motorcycle. Maybe a slow machine but not a high RPM high torque Setup. Extending regular service intervals with a Scott oiler will cause more harm than more regular intervals without an oiler.
@@EnduroDroneHub we are not talking hi-performance bikes, this is installed on a dual sport motorcycle.
Dirt Hammers Off-Road regardless you are happy mate that’s all that matters lol I get more mileage from manual service than I do with the oiler so We shall agree you dissagree :) where’s the beer 🍻