2024 Full Float Jeep Axle, Rubicon Wrangler JL, WHATS INSIDE?!

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  • @a1racer441
    @a1racer441 6 місяців тому +2

    I’d expect to see some unit bearing axle upgrades for this new design that brings more splines or larger diameter shafts. Unit bearings are in use by lots of race teams on heavy duty stuff, they have 40 spline ones running on ultra4 trucks.

  • @jasonlovell3934
    @jasonlovell3934 10 місяців тому +6

    Canyon Lake, Texas. Great video. One correction, the only axles that will loose a wheel when broken are the c clip retainer style. Like the Dana 35 or Ford 8.8. An old Dana 44 is held in place by bolts on the end. You can still drive it slowly. Seen it and done it.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому

      I agree, I kinda rushed that part. I was just referring to if the axle broke out past the bearing, which doesnt ever really happen 😂

  • @monette44
    @monette44 11 місяців тому +6

    Thanks for the very reluctant, perhaps accidental disassembly video😉 First break down I've seen, other than the cut-away diagram... I appreciate it!!! Oh, Peace River, Alberta, Canada Cheers!

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +2

      I had to stop to compose myself several times😂

  • @vegahomero
    @vegahomero 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello, I'm watching you from Hermosillo, Sonora, mexico!
    Yo could brake down the front axle to see what's new with it!

  • @ParhelionGame
    @ParhelionGame 3 місяці тому +1

    This will make differential service (adjusting/regearing) so much easier as well.

  • @Mickale-Moranis
    @Mickale-Moranis 10 місяців тому +1

    How does the shaft not go flying through that center cap through centripetal force. Like that 14B, there is a flange machined into the shaft to secure to the 'hub' of housing. So that is securing the shaft into the housing. Aftermarket would also have bolt caps to secure a splined shaft. Think there is a 'c-clip' on the inside to retain the shaft? To compare to the front, there is a center axle nut in the middle of the unit bearing (hub bearing) to secure the shaft. As the knuckle turns, the shaft slides in/out of the diff housing as its rigid to the unit bearing (hub bearing). That shaft can't be splined at both ends and not be secured to the housing in some way, free floating.
    What was the spline count? Probably 30spline in the e-locker as a factory setup.
    Too bad it tapers down at the unit bearing (hub bearing). Looks like the tube has room for a larger shaft as well. Aftermarket will open this up quite a bit. Think Ford Superduty, where there is still a manual lockout on a hub bearing shaft (no center axle shaft nut). Many racers use the Spidertrax unit bearings on the rear of an axle housing with a cap securing the free floating shaft (splined at both ends). Expect lockouts for the purpose of flat towing, like yesteryear of the flatties and early-mid 70s CJs. Many place D44 lockouts on the ends of the full float D44s, or changed the semi-float to full float with aftermarket products.

  • @cardenasrc51
    @cardenasrc51 9 місяців тому +1

    Man this kind of bums me out. Las Vegas Nevada, I think of full float and I think 8 lug, snapped axle and you don’t even need to take the wheel off. Undo the axle bolts pull it out. If you’re lucky you can fish out the broken end with a magnet or something and slide in a spare axle. (In a perfect scenario)
    I feel like jeep fooled us on this one. It’s got to be stronger right?

  • @harucho
    @harucho Місяць тому +1

    Nice video! thank you so much for the explanation! (Y)

  • @Mr30csnyder
    @Mr30csnyder 10 місяців тому +3

    Definitely makes trail repairs much easier Don't need to separate the pumpkin unless you can't get the broken parts out hopefully that tapered end does make for the weak point so that you can extract the rest of the axle out from the end

  • @plu5five
    @plu5five 10 місяців тому +3

    Interesting video! I heard the 2024 Rubicons did this and your down to shwo us! ThankYou I subscribed! Watching you from Perris,California 🍻

  • @tjs_welding_and_fabrication
    @tjs_welding_and_fabrication 10 місяців тому +1

    Fairfield CT. Reminds me of c clip eliminator for 8.8 ford.

  • @ashleyconnelley1856
    @ashleyconnelley1856 9 місяців тому +2

    I’m not here for jeep videos but I’m glade I watched anyways

  • @donfernstrom9942
    @donfernstrom9942 10 місяців тому +1

    McHenry, Illinois. Interesting video

  • @omarvilla7476
    @omarvilla7476 10 місяців тому +2

    Chicago! Stupid question! So does someone with a Dana 60 now have a 5K tow rating too? I was wondering if anything else contributed to the extended tow rating, like maybe a stiffer frame??? Also, thank you so much for making this video. I’ve been really curious about these new axles. These will make rear wheel bearing replacements a breeze.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +1

      I’m not really sure. I didn’t think a Jeeps tow capacity was limited by the axle or frame. I’d have thought it was more of a weight and wheelbase thing.

  • @mainstreetcamden
    @mainstreetcamden 6 місяців тому +2

    I’m watching from Camden, Ohio. Thanks for showing the actual rear wheel disassembly. I’ve watched other videos of people explaining what a full floating axle is, but you’re actually showing one. Thank you!

  • @alfa8822
    @alfa8822 10 місяців тому +1

    Simi Valley California. Nice to know how my 2024 Rubi is built

  • @davecamilleri9411
    @davecamilleri9411 10 місяців тому +3

    Did you happen to count the splines? It would have been interesting to see if the splines on the inside are the same also. Large strength gains can be had by increasing spline count and diameter.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +2

      No, I messed up there, I shoulda counted them.

    • @mattfliess6002
      @mattfliess6002 9 місяців тому +5

      If you pause you can count the spines on the hub. It looks like 35 splines which is interesting, but it may not be a standard pitch

  • @ashleyconnelley1856
    @ashleyconnelley1856 9 місяців тому +1

    Hell ya my man that’s what I’m talking about for real.

  • @toddaod295
    @toddaod295 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for doing this so I don't have to!!

  • @fredsalter1915
    @fredsalter1915 8 місяців тому +2

    Subbed! Super informative about full float! Rancho Cordova, California

  • @TealOxAdv
    @TealOxAdv 10 місяців тому +2

    Great video that answered some of my questions. Plant City, Florida

  • @ashleyconnelley1856
    @ashleyconnelley1856 9 місяців тому +1

    When I get something on my mind I gotta know one way or another

  • @MatthewTafoya
    @MatthewTafoya 10 місяців тому +1

    JLR 2-door greeting from Downtown Salt Lake City, UT 🙂

  • @richhastings8443
    @richhastings8443 Місяць тому +1

    Nice Rockton Illinois

  • @Carlosmanmanman
    @Carlosmanmanman 8 місяців тому +1

    This video made me subscribe

  • @johnmaier3103
    @johnmaier3103 10 місяців тому +1

    Crown point In. ( Lake of the four season )

  • @Shannon-xx8tp
    @Shannon-xx8tp 10 місяців тому +2

    Elko, Nevada

  • @thatmand4542
    @thatmand4542 10 місяців тому +4

    the minute i see one of thise jeeps in the wreck yard im snatching that axle and stuffing it in my jeep LJ as a fun little project 😁😁

    • @Shannon-xx8tp
      @Shannon-xx8tp 10 місяців тому +3

      Haha it better be that minute never seen a jeep make 2 minutes in the yard before someone takes the whole dam thing

    • @thatmand4542
      @thatmand4542 10 місяців тому +1

      @Shannon-xx8tp I was gonna say "the second I see one" but I Said minute to be more in spec 🙄

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +1

      Gotta be quick!

  • @tommywattz7
    @tommywattz7 10 місяців тому +1

    Central South Carolina

  • @mudtiremedia
    @mudtiremedia 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for making a video showing the new rear axle. I hope you dont mind if I refer back to your video in an upcoming tech talk. Ill be giving you credit for the video of course.

  • @billcharlene1450
    @billcharlene1450 10 місяців тому +1

    Homestead, Florida

  • @shanejennerjohn4430
    @shanejennerjohn4430 10 місяців тому +1

    Kinston North Carolina

  • @timmcnulty985
    @timmcnulty985 10 місяців тому +1

    Placerville California

  • @josephcastilla8590
    @josephcastilla8590 5 місяців тому +2

    International space station toilet room, space. Great video.

  • @mrgary6117
    @mrgary6117 10 місяців тому +1

    That’s a semi float axle

  • @billysmith9785
    @billysmith9785 10 місяців тому +1

    Manchester, Ky

  • @richards144
    @richards144 10 місяців тому +1

    plantation florida

  • @joemurray5413
    @joemurray5413 6 місяців тому +1

    Levittown PA

  • @Mast3rL3v1athan
    @Mast3rL3v1athan 10 місяців тому +1

    El Mirage, Arizona

  • @ashleyconnelley1856
    @ashleyconnelley1856 9 місяців тому +1

    Salyersville ky

  • @RJ28239
    @RJ28239 10 місяців тому +1

    Belen, New Mexico

  • @jonathancouch7349
    @jonathancouch7349 3 місяці тому +1

    SANFORD,NC

  • @RigoTovar32
    @RigoTovar32 10 місяців тому +1

    Fort Lupton,CO

  • @jahl5130
    @jahl5130 10 місяців тому +2

    Looks like Willow wants to take a drive in the Jeep. Really still slippers!

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому

      Slippers make the world go 'round.

  • @Lubicon99
    @Lubicon99 9 місяців тому +1

    Hello 👋
    Good information 👍🏽
    Full floating axles on 2024’s
    I’m watching from peace river, Alberta

  • @MKE_JL
    @MKE_JL 10 місяців тому +1

    Hartland, WI

  • @yihan3114
    @yihan3114 10 місяців тому +1

    Sunnyvale CA! One quick question, does it mean that there is oil leak from the diff which should seals everything inside the diff. Or maybe the oil was just for the axle shaft, not from the center diff?

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +1

      Oil still lubricates that outer bearing assembly like most axles.

    • @yihan3114
      @yihan3114 10 місяців тому +1

      @@PootsGarage cool! That's very helpful!

  • @raycabrera941
    @raycabrera941 6 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if the gladiators will get it as well? Let me know if you know?

  • @TimRoller-t3y
    @TimRoller-t3y 9 місяців тому +1

    sweet

  • @oliviaahl3778
    @oliviaahl3778 10 місяців тому +1

    Willow!

  • @038Landry
    @038Landry 10 місяців тому +1

    New-Brunswick Canada

  • @keithwalsh5602
    @keithwalsh5602 9 місяців тому +1

    Nova Scotia. Canada

  • @wenxionghao9242
    @wenxionghao9242 10 місяців тому +1

    13:07 Hello, are those four bolts the same at the semifloat rubicon axle? Is it possible to purchase the whole unit( the part you disassembled) and bolt on to my 22 rubicon?

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому

      I have no idea. I’m not familiar with the semi-float version either.

    • @wenxionghao9242
      @wenxionghao9242 10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much. I’ll figure it out if it’s possible and let you know

  • @AdamHeil-fz8vn
    @AdamHeil-fz8vn 9 місяців тому +1

    No videos lately bro what’s going on?

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  9 місяців тому

      Nothin much goin on, waiting for a few things to happen

  • @TwistedOff
    @TwistedOff 10 місяців тому +1

    👍 Casa Grande, Az.

  • @Gerald-r6o
    @Gerald-r6o 5 місяців тому +1

    thanks for showing it!!!!

  • @larryjocham3843
    @larryjocham3843 6 місяців тому +1

    Marlette Michigan great video

  • @sandmaker
    @sandmaker 11 місяців тому +1

    For inquiring minds... there's your answer and no parts left over. It's a good thing.😊 from Henderson, NV.

  • @jimduncan9638
    @jimduncan9638 9 місяців тому +1

    Ok man watching from Regina Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦.

  • @quiquemorales6099
    @quiquemorales6099 10 місяців тому +2

    Watching from Levittown Puerto Rico❤

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +1

      Your the first from Puerto Rico, thanks!

  • @odysseyusa
    @odysseyusa 11 місяців тому +1

    Memphis, IN. Interesting, thank you!

  • @jimcreelman2655
    @jimcreelman2655 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for showing us this. Truro Nova Scotia Canada is where i am watching from.

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV 10 місяців тому +2

    NORTH PHOENIX AZ 🌵

  • @JeepTJWheelin
    @JeepTJWheelin 9 місяців тому +1

    Yorktown, VA. Dig your content and great to see someone with a 2 door these days!

  • @twohandsandaradio
    @twohandsandaradio 11 місяців тому +1

    Columbus, Indiana here. That was awesome!

  • @yukondoit4662
    @yukondoit4662 10 місяців тому +1

    watching from mckinney texas

  • @guentherwilke2055
    @guentherwilke2055 10 місяців тому +1

    Detroit. That flange on the end of the tube is massive, compared to the bearing retainer on an older 44. Interesting how the axle doesn't hold the unit bearing together, like it does in front axle (and IRS) applications. I doubt the necked portion of the shaft is a weak spot. The axle shaft is likely heat treated on the ends to protect the splines, while remaining somewhat flexible in torsion though its main section. This is the biggest part that makes full floaters stronger- the shaft is allowed to have torsional flexion, which dampens shock loads.
    This bearing design certainly makes at-home rear wheel bearing replacement much more straight forward, since you no longer need to get the bearings pressed off/onto the axle shafts. Probably same overall cost, but now done with simple hand tools, in a super-8 parking lot, if necessary.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому +1

      Good point on the heat treating. As for how the bearing assm is kept together, I'm curious too. I've seen front 4x4 unit bearing fall apart because someone forgot to install the CV nut.

    • @Mickale-Moranis
      @Mickale-Moranis 10 місяців тому +1

      Factory design unit bearings (hub bearings) are usually pressed together. Seems once you place the torque on the nut to retain the shaft in the hub bearing, its 'loaded'. Over time, that torque unloads due to the 'wear' of the bearing. Thus they need to be changed on street/trail vehicles that use greater size tires/wheels as that wear progresses its life-time expectancy.

  • @Wir_sinds
    @Wir_sinds 10 місяців тому +1

    Heidelberg, Germany. Great Video!

  • @ernest5210
    @ernest5210 10 місяців тому +1

    Great info!
    New sub in Gilbert, AZ

  • @zmao6542
    @zmao6542 11 місяців тому +2

    el monte, ca

  • @robertwieting7450
    @robertwieting7450 10 місяців тому +1

    Viewing from Simi Valley CA

  • @This_is_My_Story
    @This_is_My_Story 10 місяців тому +1

    Dubai - U.A.E over here 👋

  • @DonnieRoebuck
    @DonnieRoebuck 10 місяців тому +1

    Enterprise, FL! The first time I saw a unit bearing on a rear axle was on a Crane Axle unit. They use an F450 bearing for managing really big tires with really big horsepower on really big hills. Adam at Crane said he first saw this design on a Spidertrax non-steer rear axle. I wonder if the front and rear unit bearings are the same on the new JL? Look at the space and weight savings when carrying spare parts...

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому

      If front and rear are the same, that would be awesome

  • @joedominguez4474
    @joedominguez4474 9 місяців тому

    Las Cruces, New Mexico

  • @jeepguy1337
    @jeepguy1337 11 місяців тому +1

    Glocester Rhode Island

  • @Manu8817
    @Manu8817 11 місяців тому +1

    Germany Stuttgart 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @joerivs80
    @joerivs80 10 місяців тому +1

    Gillette, Wyoming

  • @Jeepguy75
    @Jeepguy75 10 місяців тому +1

    Oxford, MS

  • @withintheglass2170
    @withintheglass2170 11 місяців тому +1

    Akron,ohio

  • @KevinDami
    @KevinDami 11 місяців тому +1

    Boston, MA says thank you

  • @twagn
    @twagn 11 місяців тому +1

    Rolla Missouri. Everyone says it has a 5000ib tow rating now but Jeep says nothing I can find in the owner's manual

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  11 місяців тому

      I think 5k is for the 4dr. My owners manual says 3500.

    • @twagn
      @twagn 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PootsGarage Thanks, I'll look at the online manual which has way more information than the hard copy that came with the Jeep

  • @vincentbentley1079
    @vincentbentley1079 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if the Jeep can be driven with the shaft removed without the unit bearing failing. It looks like it could as there is no nut on the axle shaft. I wonder what is holding the unit bearing together? Until, I see a cross-sectional drawing, my preference is still on spindles and drive flanges.

    • @surfrippa
      @surfrippa 10 місяців тому +1

      That's the whole point of a full floating axle. Yes you can still drive with a broken axle in or completely removed. Of course this is dependent on rear locker and 4wd and/or front locker situation.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  10 місяців тому

      I dont see why not, there really is nothing else holding the unit bearing together.

  • @dbriml
    @dbriml 11 місяців тому +1

    Cool. By my count, 35 splines in the unit bearing.

    • @PootsGarage
      @PootsGarage  11 місяців тому +1

      Good point, I forgot to count the splines!

    • @DonnieRoebuck
      @DonnieRoebuck 10 місяців тому +1

      1.37" is likely a 31 spline...but different manufacturers use different spline pitches...