Another IMPOSSIBLE "FLOATING" Table Build That Almost BROKE!
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2020
- In this video I revisit our last Impossible table, and build another IMPOSSIBLE Tensegrity Table, and this time i test out how much weight it can hold! I use metal and wood in this one to beef it up and help become more structurally sound. This project does come with a few hiccups, but was a lot of fun to build!
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Full on dining table is the next step
Chairs, too!
Tyler Hageman full dining room set. With floating chairs would be awesome
Finished this video and thought the same thing dining set with small center piece decor.
I thought the same. Table next.
Yes absolutely with matching stools or chairs lmao
You are the Kimmy Gibbler of wood working.
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one that uses a saw as a router. Table or circular doesn't matter I use them both that way.
Use a spring load tension system for the stabilizing cables. It will reduce wobble and spread tension to all cables evenly.
Need that! noted for version 3 !
My thoughts exactly. Perhaps some stubby compression springs in the base so they stay hidden. Maybe even a stack of spring washers.
I got inspired by John's first version and I am finishing mine, similar idea. If you have something in mind on how to create a tension system it would be appreciated. I can't find a solution that would increase the tension on the other sides.
@@hmeslava just use a strong spring to attach the wire to the base.
@@hmeslava I've been brainstorming my own and I believe I will try some threaded eye bolts with a counter sunk nut under near the frame to create tension
Nice to see you fully utilising Cardboard Assisted Design there, or CAD for short.
LOL!
Hence the manual CAD. Glad im not the only one doing it😁. Its proven effective
try it with extra strong magnets it will be literally floating
Angle the magnets to hold center
If anything throws off the balance the whole structure could experience rabid disassembly
@@williamwinder3466 if you can get a strong enough attraction.... But that level of magnetic attraction at a distance to make it look good.... Probably would be a bad idea for anyone who had any metal inside of 5 feet or more.
you need to get a giant type 2 superconductor.
Rather than going straight to dining table, I vote for a hexagonal coffee table. I figure after 6 anchors on the outside, you hit diminishing returns. Further, trying it with a coffee table first is simpler due to the height required.
I would also change the strut to be a triangular pyramid, the top rotated 60 degrees off the bottom so the apex of each pyramid is within the other. This will further stabilize the forces by spreading them across the table, rather than just on one side.
That is an interesting idea.
Love the evolution and improvements you have made, it it nice to see people doing things that they obviously get excited by. I will post suggestions in another comment.
Instead of having just 4 wires that go straight up put 8 wires that cross and go to both other corners. Create Xs on the faces and that swill keep it from rocking and make a table that is actually sturdy and useable as a table that doesn't fall apart of you put something in the wrong spot. The main issues right now when it spins or rocks.
I wonder what it would look like with a chain in the middle...
Post everything. We love the content. You have inspired me to become more adventurous in the wood working projects I undertake. And it has been paying off! Literally, people pay me to build stuff now. You rock man, keep it up!
I really didn't think I'd care for the look of this, but that is a great-looking table! Amazing optical illusion.
Hey John, it's not just a side table, its a FU@KIN work of art. I thought the thicker cable was a master stroke and didn't affect the illusion. Love your work Big Fella. 👍👍👍👍
Beautiful job on the table!
For the Bondo, you have about 5 min of working time once you mix it, to put it on and then it will harden and be ready for sanding/painting in 30 min.
First of all I have watched everyone of your videos and I do t think I have seen one that I didn't enjoy so thank you for that!. Second and I don't know why but you remind me of the muscle from diesle brothers and that alone is enough to keep me coming back for more!!!!!!!
I'd love to see a version of this where the top & bottom of the table have intertwining corkscrew patterns, to give the effect of a tornado between the base & top. Great build, these are awesome!
So awesome!! The thicker cable and ferrules add an industrial look which strangely works on this piece
The next version should be a beefy industrial dinner table using that nice cable. Metal frame on top and bottom. Wood insert on top.
Theater people use that cable and copper sleeves all the time to rig stuff overhead- it's crazy strong when you've got it done right! They also make aluminum thimbles to help keep your loop a loop and not kink the cable.
4:11 - add the "Golden Mean" or "Cycloids" to any of your work, and it will immediately radiate with sublime beauty, John.
OK, all I wanna say is keep it up, cause it's about that time when Star Trek comes out with a new version, and I can see these being used all over the ship
Excellent vid! Instead of trying to hide the wires by using clear / thin wires, I wonder how a colored 500lb+ fishing line would look.
Thanks again for sharing these projects and tips with us. Your 10 Epoxy Mistakes vid would of greatly assisted me when I made my coffee table 2 months ago using dremeled plexiglass in the epoxy to refract the led lights.
1. To stop racking, put diagonal wires under tension on each side. I'm not sure if you'll need the vertical wires at all if you make an X on each side.
2. To tighten it up, turn it upside down, add some load, and then tighten the stablizing wires. You might need slightly stronger wires there.
3. Awesome build. It looks great, is strong, and has much more stability than the last one. Nicely done.
Next version. Pulleys. Miniature Pulleys and a tensioner. This way you can use one single strand of wire to balance the load on all four corners. There are some pretty nice stainless steel and brass ones you can use that would look amazing.
I like your videos. I go back and forth between metal and wood. I am in to wood now. Been milling walnut from a tree that fell in my back yard. It is so cool destroying chainsaws. I have burned out 2, on my 3rd one.
3.0 have the arm clear epoxy and the top and base solid wood. Completely floating Kinda look
Wicked work man ! This is so awesome
add 4 tension cables on the outside that are not totally vertical. on the bottom part, you can put 4 new spots where to tie wires, halfway between the corners and the center, and bind them to the original top spots. that way, you will have a MUCH more stable table. Stable table. Stable table... sounds awesome!
Awesome. Try setting the 4 corner cables at desired height then tighten center cable & everything should be balanced perfectly
I love the concept of your floating furniture. One thing I would get rid of that 3/16” wire cable, which I assume is stainless steel, and replace it with a smaller diameter to make it less visible. For example, 3/32” 1x19 stainless steel wire has a breaking strength of 1,200 pounds which is plenty strong for what you are building. The 3/16” 1x19 stainless steel wire that I usually deal with has a breaking strength of 4700 pounds which is much higher than the 800 pounds you mentioned in your video presentation. Another idea would be to replace the wire with a highly polished stainless steel or brass rod which could be treaded into the two sections of the table. There are also available terminal fitting that can be easily attached to the wire that would be practically invisible.
Awesome project! So, to save time: Chipmunk, profile gauge, it will crack next winter and split next summer because of the frame, and the fact that maple is stronger than walnut. OK. Now that I've got THAT out of the way... Synthetic cable, pretensioned, for the outside, and perhaps a convex or concave shape to the top, to heighten the effect. Keep up the great work!
I’m surprised it took this long for someone to comment on how it will explode apart. Haha
Love your stuff mate - even made me start to perform squirrely woodwork! all the best from the UK and keep it up John and Sam!
That is just mind blowing crazy awesome. Great build John
For the middle cable, make your own braided wire out of a couple of pieces of the small gauge wire by putting it in a cordless drill at one end and a vice at the other. make it stronger and slightly less obvious
Next version has to be like a dinner table size! Scale it up to something much larger
Hang it at each end and have the stabilizing wires in the corners.
You could add a "floating" intermediate disk which is attached with multiple of the thinner cables around its circumference. The cables would form a cone shape with the tip being where the cables currently attach, and the base is the disk suspended mid-way between.
How can one dislike an amazing work like this it's definitely worth admiration
Springs for the tension cables hidden under the base and maybe skeletonize the top mounting plate to lose some weight up top. A piece of nylon strap for the center cable would be a cool look too.
Love your videos. You look like me goofing off at work. Dancing with music blaring
Try adding a spring under tension to the 4 support wires. Under tension they will still pull the wires tight and give them room to lenghten.
Your craftsmanship is immense but your charisma is also so good
That is really awesome it looks like the only thing holding it up is the cable connecting the metal
Ok soo. This is the second video I've seen from you and I had to subscribe. I wanted to click that button 30 seconds into the first vid (wooden levi-table) but I'm working on my impulse scribing... First off... THE QUALITY. Of everything.. your videos the material... your attention to details..... Craftsmanship.. id literally put a TV in the corner that repeats all your vids on your channel... keep this up.
The same principal should work for a larger table if you spread it across two tensegrity systems. Basically build 1 large dining table with two tensegrity 'posts' to support the weight. Great video!
13:40 that was actually a chipmunk, not a squirrel lol
Just shooting ideas: have a pump pump up water to the top. Have it waterfall at the corners to hide the cables. I think it would look sick if you painted it like mossy mountainous rock, floating in mid air with streams coming off of it
I'm kicking around an Adirondack chair idea inspired by your first version video. One thing I'm going to incorporate is crossing the cables diagonally instead of having them go just vertical. It won't look as clean but should cut down on the racking under load. Keep up the good work man!
MORE SIDES!! (Octogon? Stop sign maybe???)
You should try implementing springs into the underside of the table to combat the loss in support tension (4 string thingies) when bearing a load
How about building the the base hollow so you can put adjustable tensioners on outside balance wires. Kitchen table, end crimp cable and hide fereles in frame. Recommend Sasafass, if you can find it, beautiful wood!
Place internal tension springs that hold onto the external/corner wires. When you place weight onto the top causing the center cord/wire to "stretch", the external wires will stay taut keeping the top balanced.
One of my favorite builds! Well done sir
I absolutely love this table. Very awesome!!!
ahhhh, such a tiny little guy, but so much creativity and ingenuity. Should come here out west to oregon, where the men are men and the sheep are scared, all us farm boys look like professional linebackers, but, just goto work like schmucks... would kill to be able to make a living at creative work as you do. You're a lucky man john, god bless you and yours, keep the vids coming, love them... tiny feller ;-)
If you make another version, to help with the stabilization, you could add some heavy springs to the corner cables on the underside of the base so they'll keep tension while you add weight to it.
If you aren’t standing atop version three. I call fail!
How’s that for a goal!
Great build again John! Love your videos! Keep up the good work! Love these tensegrity tables a lot!
Thank you my friend, man you watch fast!
@@John_Malecki I'm always waiting for new videos to come out;) And to be honest I skip to the end result first before watching the whole video!
“So unless I’m a complete idiot - very plausible”
Had me cracking up
Awesome stuff John! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
To make it stronger, and maybe it can make it cool as well you could use a chain in the center, it won’t look like its floating but this one didn’t either and it still looks awesome
Try using three main tension cables at an angle. That way the tension not only holds the table up, but also pulls it in three different ways, keeping it stably centered. Should all but eliminate the wobble. Take a bike wheel for example, as they also get their strength from all the spokes being in tension in different directions. You could also use 6 and cross them over each other for even more stability, kinda like a funky looking wheel with 12 spokes
From the examples I've seen elsewhere, I'm thinking that the stability may be improved by having the vertical parts that hold the main cable facing each other, instead of at a right angle to each other.
You could achieve 100% stability and remove the wobble by running 2 runs of cable at ~45 degree angles in opposing directions from one corner on the bottom to adjacent corners on the top. Tables need to be reliable. Love the builds man, keep it up, Roll Tide!
This is off the charts! Saludos from Los Cabos, Mexico.
This table is absolutely amazing 😍
Great Build John, please keep them coming!
Working as fast as we can my dude, may even launch a cooking channel just for more videos.....
That is an awesome build. Great job.
Tightening the outer cables under load would definitely help. And you still wouldn’t need it as heavy as the center one. Also I think if you made the attachment points on the underside of the top closer together than the base attachment points, I think it would resist twisting more. Or oppose, top wider than the base. Ever use a kid’s swing where the ropes were closer together at the top? Twist city. Spread them out and you’re golden. Also bold move picture framing a slab...
I'd put an obvious chunky chain in the middle and the "invisible" wire cables on the outer points. Or a mix of chain and cable. Optical illusion of balancing on the chain.
I would absolutely buy this table. It's rad.🖤 And I really like the big wire in the middle, haha. 🤷🏻♀
If you add tensioners to the cables hidden underneath, maybe with a pulley to make the 90 turn you could probably get it more stable
McMaster is awesome because not only can you get almost anything there, they also provide solid models for whatever system you're using for almost everything they sell. I have a gigantic library of hardware that I use for work and hobbies.
Make all the sections curvilinear. Candycane or question mark-shaped supports and ovular base and top. Hide the ferrules inside the supports.
Awesome slab. I love the wood and metal look.
Maybe find a way to keep constant tension on the out side cables like with springs or or something or maybe one long cable that is both the middle and the out side ones
Love the nick offerman Wall painting
Great Video John!
I think diagonal wires from top left to bottom right corners would fix the rotational stability a lot. It wouldn't look as impressive though.
I have been building small 6^3" versions of this on my 3d printer. I am going to give my idea a shot.
Use stiff springs in combination with the tensioners so it keeps tension longer and stays more stable
A multi level corner shelf would be suuuuper sexy!!! Definitely wanna try this myself!
The editing on his videos are honestly so incredible. If I weren't interested in the content, tbh I'd still watch them just for how beautiful they are.
I will let our editor know !
That was amazing, keep pushing the limits! Regards from Cuenca - EC
This actually kind of funny video making stuff and add some meme I like it, Big Thunbs up👍🏼 keep up the good work
it would be interesting to transfer some of the tension from the central cable to being tension on the outer cables, for example if the center cable routed down the base so that the weight transfered to pull force on the outer cables, it would solve the issue with outer cables losing tension when too much weight is applied, and the outer cables would only need to be roughly 1/4th the tensile strength of the center cable.
May I suggest same cables but on the bottom, connect them in a way to tighten/toque the 4 outside wires to at least half their breaking limit. That will definitely increase stability with weight... you could possibly get 500lbs if the outside lines are evenly tight and keep the weight in center... good luck
I'd love to see the same thing but with a lamp on the table, but have the cord for the lamp go through the table and out the bottom with a fully turned and sexy lamp. I've seen lamp shades that where half wood and half epoxy. Love your content can't get enough lol kind of got me feelin like a junkie
awsome saw your first video and looked fun to build so im working on a 2ft by 4ft coffee table
Cross the lighter cables for added stability. Top left to lower right and so on... then try going front to back... all cables meet in middle... have the light cables hold a ring or bend back at a ring... now run the main cable through the ring in the middle... dining table size...
With matching floating chairs... you are a stumbling genius! Figure it out 😁
John this video is awesome..... you bring a lot of humor into metal and wood working..
Thats my goal my friend! thank you!
@@John_Malecki would it be possible on version 3 to replace the center chain with opposing magnets
You are underrated man, love this channel 🙌🏼
Larger table. Like a coffee table or dining table. Could use 2 center pieces facing in opposite directions. Also would look really cool with a clear resin river so you can see down into the floating madness you've made.
It reminds me of an old-school billiards table. I dig it!
The table saw trick to cut a long recess (jaw drop)!
I wonder what would happen if you had much thinner (almost invisible) wire on the outside but instead of one wire at each corner of a square you had a circular table with dozens of very thin wires (almost like a harp effect) around the circle. The centre wire could still be extremely heavy gauge and would 'appear' to be taking all the load. Just a thought! Great work guys :)
it looks even better than the last cause instead of no wires it looks like its being held up by one UNEXPLAINABLY
Diagonal exterior wires/cables. Will create horizontal loads to prevent twisting. Vertical loads will still exist to create the effect. Should allow smaller external cables to achieve goal.
Pretty fantastic work, John! Really impressive little table!!! 😃
Stay safe there! 🖖😊
should do one more crimp on each of the big ferrules. PS, when it says the WLL (working load limit) is 800 pounds, they factor in a 5:1 safety factor. that center cable will hold 4000 lbs before it shears
Love this one even better... and I agree a dining table would be neat... or how about a actual chair you could sit in!
Johns videos are always entertaining, this is a cool build
Beautiful table. Just a suggestion, but maybe try crisscrossing small wires to keep it from racking.