This video is soooo important. I’ve always played with a weaker grip. However, I used to be pretty “flippy”, to square the face, stalling my body to release the club early. I would hit the ball too high, and generally struggle with compression, and solid strike. I still managed to stay in the 70’s most days, but I knew something was missing. When Jon Rahm came onto the scene, I decided to try the bowed left wrist. Wow! I learned to turn through the ball better. My ball flight became a little lower. The strike became a different sound. The ball consistently goes straighter. And, I’ve added more right side bend through impact to stabilize the face even MORE. The weak grip, paired with the bowed left wrist will require and strong turn, and some right side bend, but it literally takes the flippy hands out of the equation. Plus, you’ll automatically get some forward shaft lean, without even thinking about it(that’s where the amazing strike comes from). My game stays around par now, with an occasional under par round. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GIVING IT A TRY! P.S. Take your setup, then push the grip forward. Notice now with the shaft leaned forward how the left wrist is bowed, and the right wrist is bent back. It won’t be THAT extreme through impact, but it’s pretty easy to see the correlation. Another note…. DJ plays with a strong grip, AND a bowed left wrist. This requires an enormous amount of flexibility. It takes tons of hip rotation, and tons of right side bend to hold the face off. Almost impossible for the average person to match these two things up(strong grip + bowed left wrist), as these are BOTH face closing attributes.
I'm working with an instructor and I just changed from a slightly weak grip to a very strong grip. I just couldn't get consistent with the weak grip. With the strong grip, I started off hitting it way way left. But I've learned how to start the downswing differently - more rotation and really delay the hand action, and I love how I am starting to hit the ball. I find that this new swing requires less timing. As long as I start the downswing by rotating, the hands and club head follow. Anyway, my point is, you are so right. Your swing really has to match your grip and you have to understand what is required to make the grip work. A lot of instructors don't specify do this if you have a strong, neutral or weak grip.
Great video...alot of other youtube professionals mention grip but they rarely go into the finer points of how the swing must be adjusted for each grip type. GG and yourself are probably one of the only ones that I have seen mention how grip affects the overall swing and how to account for those changes. Great video!
This video has been very helpful. I've always played with a strong grip and it didn't go well when I tried to implement bowing or even a pivot based swing. Messing around with the weaker grip + bow feels way easier to control.
thanks for they Jonathon , i've been wrongly doing exactly what you just explained !! i have a strong left hand , and have been trying to not roll the left forearm on the takeaway !! that is the first time and am glad to hear this !! also have tried the bowing of the left hand with a strong grip , unaware it was a no no !! much appreciated !! cheers
Wanted to drop a personal thanks. This video made it click for me finally. I’ve been using a weak grip and trying a rotation based swing with a bowed wrist and couldn’t put it all together. I couldn’t maintain the bow but your tip about presetting bow and face matching spine angle was the missing piece. It seems to help my brain maintain it. Do you have a full course on this concept?
Great video I also love the details on each grip and how it affects the takeaway. I have probably made every mistake you mentioned just from ignorance and trying everything on UA-cam to get better. Bowed wrist is my favorite but after a few days my wrist hurts and have to take a few days off
You are amazing, with your explanations, never seen or heard of this before and how different grips affect your swing, come to the USA please. Like I have told you before you should be a motivation speaker,
Great video. One question: IS it ok to have a bent left arm with a weak grip? I find it hard to keep my left arm straight when I bow my wrist. Thanks in advance.
i have a very strong grip to the point it has no opportunity to open which i want.. i rely soley on hips and wrist rotation through impact to hit it straight. i notice you do not use shaft lean with your static setup. would you recommend shaft lean and if so do you reccomend leaning the shaft at your left pocket and then gripping strong or gripping strong and then leaning the shaft. struggling lately with my grip and starts to feel weird sometimes. great video by the way. no one every talks about this
Good vid. I have a strong grip but like to address the ball with my hands forward. Do you suggest then that my shaft angle at setup should be more vertical?
Is there anything different that Cameron smith and Cameron champ do to make their strong grips work? They’ve both got flat wrists not cupped. and shallow shaft on downswing. Thank you.
Suspect hitting through the ball prior to the right wrist rolling over. Otherwise they’d be cooked / duck hook city. Smith hit a drive like that earlier today.
They do it like DJ does it…. Tons of hip rotation, and lots of right side bend to keep the club from releasing(closing) too early. Here’s something that might help you feel it for yourself…. Take the club through impact, and beyond, in slow motion. See what it takes to keep the face pointing up at the sky past impact(about parallel aiming downrange). You’ll see that your hips, and shoulders are very open(lots of turn), and your right side feels crunched, with a really low right shoulder going through. This takes an enormous amount of athleticism, and flexibility to pull off. Hope this helps…..
@@jamiesloan7259 cheers mate yeah I have done it in slow motion a bit actually just in the mirror. Feels quite tight. I’m athletic though, I’m sure there are certain aspects I’m not doing right.
Hi Jonathan. It doesn’t make any sense to say one with a weak grip must bow to square the face. In ulnar deviation (impact) wrist bowing (flexion) delofts the face, it doesn’t change the face angle. The only way to change the face angle at impact is through forearm rotation. Manipulations up at the top of the swing are not relevant. Cheers.
@@jchowngolf Take your impact position (ulnar deviation). Now bow your wrist without allowing your watch face to rotate ie pure wrist flexion. The club head moves backwards but the face angle does not change relative to its path. Cheers
This video is soooo important. I’ve always played with a weaker grip. However, I used to be pretty “flippy”, to square the face, stalling my body to release the club early. I would hit the ball too high, and generally struggle with compression, and solid strike. I still managed to stay in the 70’s most days, but I knew something was missing. When Jon Rahm came onto the scene, I decided to try the bowed left wrist. Wow! I learned to turn through the ball better. My ball flight became a little lower. The strike became a different sound. The ball consistently goes straighter. And, I’ve added more right side bend through impact to stabilize the face even MORE. The weak grip, paired with the bowed left wrist will require and strong turn, and some right side bend, but it literally takes the flippy hands out of the equation. Plus, you’ll automatically get some forward shaft lean, without even thinking about it(that’s where the amazing strike comes from). My game stays around par now, with an occasional under par round. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GIVING IT A TRY! P.S. Take your setup, then push the grip forward. Notice now with the shaft leaned forward how the left wrist is bowed, and the right wrist is bent back. It won’t be THAT extreme through impact, but it’s pretty easy to see the correlation. Another note…. DJ plays with a strong grip, AND a bowed left wrist. This requires an enormous amount of flexibility. It takes tons of hip rotation, and tons of right side bend to hold the face off. Almost impossible for the average person to match these two things up(strong grip + bowed left wrist), as these are BOTH face closing attributes.
I'm working with an instructor and I just changed from a slightly weak grip to a very strong grip. I just couldn't get consistent with the weak grip. With the strong grip, I started off hitting it way way left. But I've learned how to start the downswing differently - more rotation and really delay the hand action, and I love how I am starting to hit the ball. I find that this new swing requires less timing. As long as I start the downswing by rotating, the hands and club head follow. Anyway, my point is, you are so right. Your swing really has to match your grip and you have to understand what is required to make the grip work. A lot of instructors don't specify do this if you have a strong, neutral or weak grip.
Great video...alot of other youtube professionals mention grip but they rarely go into the finer points of how the swing must be adjusted for each grip type. GG and yourself are probably one of the only ones that I have seen mention how grip affects the overall swing and how to account for those changes. Great video!
This video has been very helpful. I've always played with a strong grip and it didn't go well when I tried to implement bowing or even a pivot based swing. Messing around with the weaker grip + bow feels way easier to control.
thanks for they Jonathon , i've been wrongly doing exactly what you just explained !!
i have a strong left hand , and have been trying to not roll the left forearm on the takeaway !!
that is the first time and am glad to hear this !!
also have tried the bowing of the left hand with a strong grip , unaware it was a no no !!
much appreciated !!
cheers
This is key - so good. Thanks for clarifying how the grip affects the entire swing.
Best ever video on grip and wrists implication. Thank you.
Wanted to drop a personal thanks. This video made it click for me finally. I’ve been using a weak grip and trying a rotation based swing with a bowed wrist and couldn’t put it all together. I couldn’t maintain the bow but your tip about presetting bow and face matching spine angle was the missing piece. It seems to help my brain maintain it.
Do you have a full course on this concept?
You are so good at explaining on every video, and so it's easy understand. I needed this!...thank you
Great video I also love the details on each grip and how it affects the takeaway. I have probably made every mistake you mentioned just from ignorance and trying everything on UA-cam to get better. Bowed wrist is my favorite but after a few days my wrist hurts and have to take a few days off
You are amazing, with your explanations, never seen or heard of this before and how different grips affect your swing, come to the USA please. Like I have told you before you should be a motivation speaker,
Exactly what I needed...THANK YOU
Great video. One question: IS it ok to have a bent left arm with a weak grip? I find it hard to keep my left arm straight when I bow my wrist. Thanks in advance.
Super important video, solid solid info.
When you say seeing a number of knuckles do you mean when taking grip or at address with the club grounded? Seems to be different?! Thank you!
thanks does right hand go on in any special way to match the weak left hand grip?
i have a very strong grip to the point it has no opportunity to open which i want.. i rely soley on hips and wrist rotation through impact to hit it straight. i notice you do not use shaft lean with your static setup. would you recommend shaft lean and if so do you reccomend leaning the shaft at your left pocket and then gripping strong or gripping strong and then leaning the shaft. struggling lately with my grip and starts to feel weird sometimes. great video by the way. no one every talks about this
Good vid. I have a strong grip but like to address the ball with my hands forward. Do you suggest then that my shaft angle at setup should be more vertical?
Feel like I get more shaft lean through the strike when I preset lean at address. 🤷🏼♂️
Is there anything different that Cameron smith and Cameron champ do to make their strong grips work? They’ve both got flat wrists not cupped. and shallow shaft on downswing. Thank you.
Suspect hitting through the ball prior to the right wrist rolling over. Otherwise they’d be cooked / duck hook city. Smith hit a drive like that earlier today.
They do it like DJ does it…. Tons of hip rotation, and lots of right side bend to keep the club from releasing(closing) too early. Here’s something that might help you feel it for yourself…. Take the club through impact, and beyond, in slow motion. See what it takes to keep the face pointing up at the sky past impact(about parallel aiming downrange). You’ll see that your hips, and shoulders are very open(lots of turn), and your right side feels crunched, with a really low right shoulder going through. This takes an enormous amount of athleticism, and flexibility to pull off. Hope this helps…..
@@jamiesloan7259 cheers mate yeah I have done it in slow motion a bit actually just in the mirror. Feels quite tight. I’m athletic though, I’m sure there are certain aspects I’m not doing right.
Hi Jonathan. It doesn’t make any sense to say one with a weak grip must bow to square the face. In ulnar deviation (impact) wrist bowing (flexion) delofts the face, it doesn’t change the face angle. The only way to change the face angle at impact is through forearm rotation. Manipulations up at the top of the swing are not relevant. Cheers.
I have no idea how someone could say the lead wrist bowing (flexion) doesn’t close the club face. It isn’t debatable…
@@jchowngolf Take your impact position (ulnar deviation). Now bow your wrist without allowing your watch face to rotate ie pure wrist flexion. The club head moves backwards but the face angle does not change relative to its path. Cheers
So important
But which is better?
Depends 😅
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