Wheel of Prog - DreamTheater Albums Tier List

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2023
  • Roie, Geoff, Kyle, and Daniel rank the Dream Theater studio albums in this episode of Wheel of Prog.
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  • @ricardomartins3791
    @ricardomartins3791 7 місяців тому +134

    Train of Thought in C was a crime 😢, even going to B, to me it will always be a S tier album

    • @Segagens
      @Segagens 6 місяців тому +2

      First I thought you were talking about the tuning in C

    • @ni_n__ho.oh__n_in
      @ni_n__ho.oh__n_in 5 місяців тому +1

      Well, as much as I enjoy Train of Thought, it sounds to me like a successor to Metallica's Black album - only it is better.

    • @AngryCalvin
      @AngryCalvin 4 місяці тому +1

      I always think of it as Progtallica. It's a great love letter to Metallica and I can't imagine it being possibly better than it already is.

    • @blackmamba5659
      @blackmamba5659 4 місяці тому +1

      Train of Thought is fantastic, so melodic and heavy! I'm not a big fan of the more prog bits of it but still a straight A tier album, definitly better than Octavarium.

    • @jeffc1753
      @jeffc1753 4 місяці тому

      ToT is a masterpiece. Geoff is a curmudgeonly nerd. Anyone who craps on this album can kiss my ass.

  • @pedroolmo
    @pedroolmo 6 місяців тому +30

    It's surprising that Kevin Moore was not mentioned as the main reason for IaW and Awake having a unique atmosphere that is not found in the following albums. It is quite obvious if you listen to his work post DT with Chroma Key, Fates Warning and OSI.

    • @eptagramma
      @eptagramma 4 місяці тому +4

      the "Kevin Moore factor" is so important

  • @michaelespinosa9168
    @michaelespinosa9168 9 місяців тому +84

    Awake = Dream Theater's finest hour, their absolute Zenith and one of my favorite albums of all time.

    • @malawigw
      @malawigw 7 місяців тому +3

      My fav albums are Permanent Waves, Powerslave and Awake \m/

    • @tweevers2
      @tweevers2 7 місяців тому +2

      Awake has been my favorite since the mid 90's

    • @llw4451
      @llw4451 7 місяців тому

      Abso-fucking-lutely🎉

    • @thr3LoadR
      @thr3LoadR 7 місяців тому

      Agreed. Voices is my favorite song of all time, by any band. The only song that I don't like is Innocence Faded....aside from that, this one hits me hard from beginning to end.

    • @albertoalfak
      @albertoalfak 7 місяців тому +1

      james voice here is almost unbearable sometimes

  • @RiffisKing
    @RiffisKing 7 місяців тому +47

    Putting systematic chaos that low is a crime imo. To me it's a top 5 album! And what a great tour that was, I think they were on top of their game during that time.

    • @albertoalfak
      @albertoalfak 7 місяців тому +5

      no, it's a huge mess overall

    • @Zzannez
      @Zzannez 7 місяців тому +5

      Could not handle the... systematic chaos 😎@@albertoalfak

    • @ProgSnob14
      @ProgSnob14 4 місяці тому

      It's a 7 or 8

    • @user-ih5jr8rt5q
      @user-ih5jr8rt5q 4 місяці тому

      ohmy
      Systematic Chaos is great
      I didn't like it for about 8 years, and then it clicked

    • @IHateNicolasCage
      @IHateNicolasCage 3 місяці тому +2

      Systematic Chaos is the most forgettable album they’ve produced. It’s like seeing a movie, and then when the credits roll you already forgot what happened.

  • @fluntimes
    @fluntimes 7 місяців тому +33

    Scarred has to be DT's greatest song and it is among so many greats on that album. No way Awake is a C tier.

    • @marckossilva7339
      @marckossilva7339 4 місяці тому +6

      Awake is a S tier album. Dark, melodic and a certain atmospheric charm.

    • @AngryCalvin
      @AngryCalvin 4 місяці тому +2

      Scarred is one of my favorites also. One of James Labries best vocal performance and some of the most catchy instrumental work.

    • @pablomontesinos6852
      @pablomontesinos6852 4 місяці тому +4

      I really hated that Geoff dude. He only likes ballads and some instrumental tracks, but what a joke to invite someone that doesn't like heavy stuff and just whinning about it whenever he could. I mean, putting Awake on C tear? Really?! And he wanted to put Astonishing on A tear? What a clown! 🤡

    • @DonCarnage42
      @DonCarnage42 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@pablomontesinos6852 Exactly. Why not have dream theater fans to rank the albums? Ridiculous 😮‍💨

    • @user-ih5jr8rt5q
      @user-ih5jr8rt5q 4 місяці тому +1

      omfg all these comments showing me I don't want to watch this

  • @retorique
    @retorique 7 місяців тому +17

    Happy to see Falling Into Infinity in that tier. It was so ahead of the technical prog sensibilites at that time that even the band wasn't prepared for it. Luckily people have learned that there's space for pop elements in prog, which in a pre-Steven Wilson world seemed unthinkable. It's one of their best-aged albums for that very reason.

  • @arnaudb.7669
    @arnaudb.7669 9 місяців тому +1

    Great show.
    Looking forward to next episodes!

  • @CharlesSoulzOfficial
    @CharlesSoulzOfficial 8 місяців тому +1

    Great episode! Scenes and Images always at the top :)

  • @marcelpineda1700
    @marcelpineda1700 9 місяців тому +9

    Excellent episode!!
    I hope next one is Rush

  • @CompleteProducer84
    @CompleteProducer84 9 місяців тому +3

    ALWAYS here for the DT content! Thank you!

  • @robertpannullo5687
    @robertpannullo5687 9 місяців тому +2

    Another great episode .. this is such a good idea , it’s sparks an interesting discussion!

  • @dancasey8172
    @dancasey8172 9 місяців тому +47

    Props to anyone and everyone who put "Awake" at S-tier, and extra props to Kyle Fagala who I don't believe spoke a single word of untruth during this hour-long installment.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 9 місяців тому +9

      Oh man. I can't say that I didn't speak a single word of untruth in this podcast, BUT I appreciate the kind words very much!! And, yes - Awake is an S-tier album for me. No doubt about it.

    • @MrGnb123
      @MrGnb123 9 місяців тому +5

      Found Kyle’s burner account

    • @Marlowe10100
      @Marlowe10100 7 місяців тому +2

      Awake is their best album, after octavarium I really don't care anymore.@@KyleFagala

    • @thr3LoadR
      @thr3LoadR 7 місяців тому +2

      I agree completely! This has been my first Prog Report video (and I immediately subscribed), and I was nodding my head at Kyle throughout the entire thing.

    • @shagginwagon8447
      @shagginwagon8447 7 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree. @KyleFagala is the voice of the people!

  • @xeyon
    @xeyon 9 місяців тому +32

    Dramatic turn is s tier for me. I heard it for the first time a couple years ago and I love the riffs and solos so much.

    • @BrandonGSVG
      @BrandonGSVG 9 місяців тому +6

      Completely agree. Drum sound aside, it’s everything a Dream Theater album should be.

    • @barrett8637
      @barrett8637 8 місяців тому +11

      Breaking All Illusions is sooooo strong and feels very Portnoyesque in it's composition.

    • @spudfella4937
      @spudfella4937 7 місяців тому +2

      Best mangini album. That and the self titled album.

    • @albertoalfak
      @albertoalfak 7 місяців тому +1

      nah, it's full of pointless shredding, and it contains some of the worst songs they ever put out

    • @user-to6do4fz6u
      @user-to6do4fz6u 7 місяців тому +2

      @@albertoalfakworst up to that time. The worst was yet to follow.

  • @yarbgreat1
    @yarbgreat1 3 місяці тому +3

    ADTOE was my first DT album, so I'm biased, but I love the sound production of that album. I like the way the drums sound. That album has more of an Octovacrium feel to me. I love the piano section of On The Backs of Angles. Lost Not Forgotten has one of Petrucci's best solos.

  • @AnthonyStudio
    @AnthonyStudio 7 місяців тому +7

    Started screaming at my monitor halfway through until Awake was moved to S tier where it belongs 🙂. Why no A Change of Seasons!? Thanks guys, this was a fun one! Subscribed.

    • @halestormtv
      @halestormtv Місяць тому +1

      Change of Seasons is not an official studio album, it's an EP that was chock full of covers. Minus the title track, it's essentially a cover album. It's not terrible by any means, but I understand why they decided not to include it.

  • @them2002
    @them2002 4 місяці тому +4

    Oh man... When Dream & Day Unite at the bottom breaks my heart. It's such a creative album.and the songs are so good.

  • @AndreasTonnesen
    @AndreasTonnesen 7 місяців тому

    This list is legit. Well done guys!

  • @mateusfragallo4049
    @mateusfragallo4049 9 місяців тому +9

    Great job guys! Six Degrees (the song) is a MONSTER of a song. I agree that the overture might be a little too long, but that is because we probably already know the songs. However, if it is the very first time you listen to it, it probably justify its length imo.
    I'd be great to see a The Dear Hunter episode 😉

  • @GabeSegura801
    @GabeSegura801 7 місяців тому +2

    "the count of tuscany is my favorite DT song" but also says he cant get into Systematic chaos because "the vampire and all that I dont dig that stuff" 🧐

  • @GaudyGabriev
    @GaudyGabriev 7 місяців тому +12

    Images and Words, Scenes, Awake, Six Degrees. I don't know how there's even a question about those being their 4 best albums.

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому +1

      Easily top four. Just my order puts Awake top. And Black Clouds is fifth.

    • @henrywalton5967
      @henrywalton5967 7 місяців тому

      i find myself going back to DoT a lot

    • @TheSateef
      @TheSateef 7 місяців тому

      i'd add the self titled alum and take away Awake

    • @Hegge2005
      @Hegge2005 7 місяців тому

      Octavarium is up there for me!

  • @janb4406
    @janb4406 7 місяців тому

    Really like this concept. Good work putting it together.
    I just would like to know who these people rating the albums are.
    Who's the person I agree with and who's the one I don't agree with.
    They are only mentioned by first name both in the video and in the description.
    I just discovered this channel. So for others like me who are not familiar with people assosiated with this channel it should not be neccesary to google it or watch all other content to puzzle it together.
    Thanks again and keep up the good work.

  • @WillsRushpage
    @WillsRushpage 9 місяців тому +2

    That was a good show. Some interesting viewpoints on the DT catalog. Are you guys going to do this with RUSH LPs?

  • @lappado
    @lappado 4 місяці тому +2

    Great list! Just one note on the artwork for FII: It was created by Storm Thorgerson, not Hugh Syme. Syme started doing work for DT from Octavarium and onwards. Thorgerson is famed for his work with Pink Floyd among others.

  • @MetalheadNation
    @MetalheadNation 5 місяців тому +3

    Hahaha glad I’m not the only one who hears a lot of Holdsworth in that Trial of Tears solo, maybe my favorite Petrucci solo ever

  • @dylanhewitt2616
    @dylanhewitt2616 7 місяців тому

    S: Metropolis Pt 2, Awake, Images & Words
    A: Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn Of Events, Train Of Thought
    B: Six Degrees, Octavarium, Systematic Chaos
    C: Falling Into Infinity, Distance Over Time, View From...
    D: The Astonishing, Self Titled, When Dream And Day Unite

  • @leightnite3056
    @leightnite3056 3 місяці тому +2

    "Train of Thought"...S tier man! I'm biased tho, love their metal stuff, and saw em on, and met John and Mike on this tour!

  • @NedJeffery
    @NedJeffery 7 місяців тому +3

    I love The Silent Man! one of my favourites on Awake.

  • @davidrizzo3629
    @davidrizzo3629 3 місяці тому

    An impossible list to make!!! Nice job compromising. I love that you all have different opinions on each album.

  • @DrAkuIa1
    @DrAkuIa1 7 місяців тому +2

    I would love to see a Shadow Gallery, Ayreon or Pain of Salvation tier list.

  • @soocool78
    @soocool78 7 місяців тому +17

    Man, my tastes in music has changed so much over the years. I stopped listening to DT after constant disappointment since Black Clouds. I agreed so much with Portnoy that they needed a break to get a fresh take. Everything since has been so stale, with only a few good highlights.
    Then every once in a while I'll throw on older DT, and just remember why i fell in love with this type of music. Their other stuff had so much more heart and creativity. If someone can point me to a song that has good melodies, creative vocals or ANYTHING other than playing instruments fast, please let me know.

    • @jeremiahnations8808
      @jeremiahnations8808 4 місяці тому +1

      At Witt's End-Distance over Time

    • @ThePhilTorretto
      @ThePhilTorretto 4 місяці тому +1

      100% agree. I’ve felt that everything since Systematic Chaos is “paint by numbers” stale. I saw DT on the View from the Top of the World tour and literally almost fell asleep. Just boring.

    • @them2002
      @them2002 4 місяці тому

      I wholeheartedly agree. I didn't realize it at the time, but yes, I feel Portnoy was spot on. I saw them a few years ago and it was so boring. I'm hoping the return of Portnoy reinvigorate. Although I feel like they should take some time to write the new album.

  • @SuperMrThom
    @SuperMrThom 3 місяці тому +1

    S: Octavarium and Scenes from a Memory
    A: Black Clouds, Systematic Chaos, Images and Words

  • @BenKFBR392
    @BenKFBR392 3 місяці тому

    The riff in Rite of Passage for the solo section, and the riff in Shattered Fortress just before and during the keyboard solo, that develops from riffs in both Glass Prison and Dying Soul, are two of my favorite DT riffs.

  • @blackmamba5659
    @blackmamba5659 4 місяці тому +2

    The best thing about Dream Theater is that for some people an album is S tier and for others it's D tier.

  • @archonio
    @archonio 7 місяців тому

    Great episode! As a huge fan of DT since 2007, I agree with you on my top 5. The biggest difference from my list I think, is that I'd swap Systematic Chaos with Falling Into Infinity. I'll always have a soft spot for SC since it was my first album from them that I bought after getting into their music. Other than that, our lists look identical, actually 🙂

  • @capeda9942
    @capeda9942 4 місяці тому +1

    "I could put it in D and move The Astonishing up to S..."
    "NOOOOO"
    lmao

  • @bengates1301
    @bengates1301 4 місяці тому +1

    IMO: From worst to best
    D - The Astonishing, When Dream And Day Unite, A View From The Top Of The World
    C - Dream Theater, A Dramatic Turn Of Events, Distance Over Time
    B - Systematic Chaos, Falling Into Infinity, Octavarium
    A - Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Black Clouds And Silver Linings, Train Of Thought
    S - Images And Words, Scenes From A Memory, Awake

  • @andylewin3029
    @andylewin3029 4 місяці тому +2

    Awake as a C tier is criminal. It is one of their best albums. A tier if not S tier.

  • @knguros9415
    @knguros9415 7 місяців тому +5

    Falling into infinity A tier… someone give Kyle a cup coffee and a chill pill 😅

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому

      That was D tier until The Unastonishing came out 😅

    • @ackerber1
      @ackerber1 7 місяців тому

      If you consider ACOS as part of Falling into Infinity (since same era), I'm good with A tier

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 7 місяців тому +1

      You know. I've been pleasantly surprised to see how many people agree with me. 🤷‍♂

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 7 місяців тому +1

      Also. I already drink coffee AND take a chill pill every day. ha.

    • @knguros9415
      @knguros9415 7 місяців тому

      @@KyleFagala well it’s a good album, it definitely has some gems, but A tier, it’s hard for me to figure it out with all due respect.

  • @PO2KickAss
    @PO2KickAss 7 місяців тому +1

    Ok, after watching this, the only album I wanna put on is Awake, not to confirm what theyre saying, I just love that album ALOT

  • @fooser77
    @fooser77 9 місяців тому +3

    I wish to propose a challenge to you all ..
    This might take some time, as some or even most / all of you have never heard of this band ..
    That being said, this is a proj channel, and this band is definitely .............. prog!
    I know at least one of you (or some) know of Opeth and it's relation to Porcupine Tree ..
    Speaking of PT, there are certainly elements of PT in this band as of Opeth ..
    The band I speak of, is Extol ..
    I would love to see this get played in the Wheel of Prog at some point ..
    This band, though on possible permanent hiatus, deserves so much more attention and exposure ..
    Ask the likes of Alex Rudinger, Bill Champlin, and Jay Graydon ..

  • @sonormatt
    @sonormatt 9 місяців тому +1

    Would love to see a Rush wheel next!

  • @mikaelsnare
    @mikaelsnare 9 місяців тому +1

    They've been my favorite band since I bought Awake after reading a review in the local newspaper. I had played drums for a few years, and THAT drum intro hit me 💪
    IMO they made four perfect records in a row: SFAM, 6DOIT, TOT, 8, but have been kind of uneven after that. Many great songs though, on every record.

  • @thefigure13
    @thefigure13 7 місяців тому +3

    Black Clouds is an S teir album for me. I love how that album sounds and it’s been my biggest inspiration for my own drum sound

    • @creatinovic
      @creatinovic 4 місяці тому

      mine too. only weak link there is Wither for me

  • @keithshapland903
    @keithshapland903 7 місяців тому +1

    I bought all the albums from When Dream and Day unite came out on vinyl..then moved forward...And so my ranking is as they came and I digested them. Awake is in 'S' every time...'Voices' is epic!

  • @Ignazyoh
    @Ignazyoh 7 місяців тому +13

    Train of thought was a very heavy album that really molded the next 10 years of guitar shred. It literally educated the most proficient shreders that went to do from prog to even metalcore. Its really a prog album? Of course not. But the influence of this album is undeniable

  • @fmainier
    @fmainier 7 місяців тому +11

    Train of Thought is hands down tear S and Endless Sacrifice top 3 songs from them

    • @TheRealJoeNathan
      @TheRealJoeNathan 4 місяці тому +1

      I didn't realize how much I liked Endless Sacrifice until I saw it live. Jordan even brought out his keytar which was awesome. It's in my top 20 for sure, maybe even top 10.

    • @jeffc1753
      @jeffc1753 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep, ToT is a masterpiece. Geoff = NERD.

    • @B00STICLES
      @B00STICLES 6 днів тому +1

      Train of thought is the goat wtf they on

    • @fmainier
      @fmainier 4 дні тому

      I say more, endless sacrifice is in my top20 songs of all time

  • @KBH27
    @KBH27 7 місяців тому

    Still my favorite band since 1992

  • @WWROABM
    @WWROABM 7 місяців тому +3

    Thing with The Astonishing is it takes a really sophisticated perspective to understand and appreciated. I love this record because it is 2 hours. It is A or B level because it challenges the listener. 100% in the Geoff camp here.
    I read the DVD didn’t get done because they just forgot to arrange it all, and in the end it was super expensive, for them.

  • @eyvahehyeh8927
    @eyvahehyeh8927 7 місяців тому +2

    Been looking for an excuse to make one of these, so now I'm making one, and making one. :)
    Your format (ordered within tiers):
    S
    Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes From A Memory (1999)
    Images and Words (1992)
    Awake (1994)
    A
    Octavarium (2005)
    When Dream and Day Unite (1989)
    Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002)
    B
    Train of Thought (2003)
    A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011)
    Falling Into Infinity (1997)
    C
    Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009)
    Dream Theater (2013)
    Systematic Chaos (2007)
    D
    The Astonishing (2016)
    Distance Over Time (2019)
    A View from the Top of the World (2021)
    My usual format (not ordered within tiers):
    S+
    Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes From A Memory (1999)
    S
    Awake (1994)
    Images and Words (1992)
    A+
    Octavarium (2005)
    Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002)
    Train of Thought (2003)
    When Dream and Day Unite (1989)
    A
    A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011)
    Falling Into Infinity (1997)
    B+
    Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009)
    Dream Theater (2013)
    B
    Systematic Chaos (2007)
    The Astonishing (2016)
    C-F/Meh
    A View from the Top of the World (2021)
    Distance Over Time (2019)

  • @ColossusBall
    @ColossusBall 7 місяців тому +1

    I've tried a couple times to make it through this video, but I just keep stopping it to listen to an album.

  • @Starrz88
    @Starrz88 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for representing Falling Into Infinity. I've loved that album forever.
    In my personal opinion I would have top 3 albums being Awake, I&W, and 6 Degrees.
    Love SFAM, but that's just how it works out.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 7 місяців тому

      I'm glad to discover that not EVERYONE thinks I'm a pariah for enjoying Falling Into Infinity! ha

  • @dafaz4685
    @dafaz4685 9 місяців тому +8

    Guys love this type of content, please do Devin Townsend and all of his groups, band project and SYL

    • @malawigw
      @malawigw 7 місяців тому

      video will be 18 hours long

    • @tombiby5892
      @tombiby5892 4 місяці тому

      He doesn’t have more than yes or rush.

  • @matthewzang6688
    @matthewzang6688 7 місяців тому +4

    A Dramatic Turn of Events is so underrated it’s ridiculous. Such a great blend of classic prog, groovy riffs, and organic songwriting. It would be at least A tier for me, personally.

  • @svenjohanviktor
    @svenjohanviktor 7 місяців тому +1

    Falling Into Infinity in fourth place sure is a hot take! Not sure if I agree with all of your opinions, but an interesting listen for sure.

  • @robertoiorio390
    @robertoiorio390 9 місяців тому +5

    Scenes from a memory is the best album of time. S tier: six degrees, awake, train of thought, change of season, i&w.

    • @jerichostevens2711
      @jerichostevens2711 7 місяців тому

      I think that's the only album I've heard from them.. Use to listen to it over and over again as teenager...

  • @ericashley576
    @ericashley576 4 місяці тому +2

    The reason the first two records have a different feel is the lack of Kevin Moore.
    His overall feel is captivating once you focus on it.

  • @BigDVulturous
    @BigDVulturous 4 місяці тому +1

    Lol the first time I got a chance to see DT live was with the Astonishing tour. I actually really enjoy it, enough to have gotten a signed vinyl at the show I went to 😂

  • @jacobscully4707
    @jacobscully4707 3 місяці тому

    Falling Into Infinity is so underrated. Love the Derek Era and loved that Sons of Apollo played a few live. Also Astonishing is a great album with some of James' best performances. I will die on this hill.

  • @psychofunksoldier02
    @psychofunksoldier02 9 місяців тому +16

    The problem with 6 Degrees IMO is that the title track sounds way better live on the Score DVD with the real orchestra vs the fake sounds on the studio album.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 9 місяців тому +2

      I definitely agree with you there.

    • @user-to6do4fz6u
      @user-to6do4fz6u 7 місяців тому

      The problem is that 6 Degrees didn’t bring anything new to the table.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 7 місяців тому +1

      @@user-to6do4fz6u Honestly, at the time, I felt that way - particularly with the epic. It felt like ideas that had been better executed on previous albums. The standalone song disc, on the other hand, featured some new and unique moments I think.

  • @Sam-cv6un
    @Sam-cv6un 7 місяців тому +1

    I'll die on the Astonishing S-tier hill lol

  • @resoundingsource6595
    @resoundingsource6595 7 місяців тому

    I’d do..
    S: scenes, six degrees, I&W
    A: falling, Awake, TOT
    B: debut, black clouds, octavarium
    C: self titled
    D: etc

  • @MaggotSkulls
    @MaggotSkulls 7 місяців тому

    Great tier. My only changes would be moving Distance Over Time to B, Black Clouds & Silver Linings to C and Dream Theater to D. Cheers!

  • @Bolteus
    @Bolteus 9 місяців тому +13

    Daniel puts Systematic Chaos in C then goes on to say he loves basically every song.

    • @GabeSegura801
      @GabeSegura801 7 місяців тому +3

      he says he loves everything. I dont know how many times he says "its one of my favorite songs". I dont think if it was his list he wouldnt put anything in the C & D teir.. lol

  • @ThePhilTorretto
    @ThePhilTorretto 4 місяці тому +3

    Train of Thought being in C tier is a crime against humanity. It’s my favorite by far and not coincidentally their most Metal album. I describe it as what happens when DT turn DOWN the prog and turns UP the metal…and that’s just fine by me. Disclaimer: I have complicated relationship with prog. I come to prog Metal via 80’s Iron Maiden, Fates Warning and most importantly Queensrÿche. So I’ve always struggle with the Proggy side of of prog Metal. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤘🏼

  • @markhaessler4395
    @markhaessler4395 7 місяців тому +1

    S - Scenes From a Memory pt2, Train of Thought, 6 Degrees
    A - Images and Words, Awake, Systematic Chaos
    B - Octavarium, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn of Events
    C - Falling into infinity, View from the top, Dream Theater,
    D - Distance over Time, When Dream and Day, Astonishing

    • @cilibrasi1040
      @cilibrasi1040 7 місяців тому

      I agree with this list 100%!! I listen to Scenes, 6 degrees and Train straight through all the time.

  • @HawksNHabsPC
    @HawksNHabsPC 9 місяців тому +5

    My List
    S - Scenes, Images, Six Degrees
    A - Awake, Black Clouds, Train of Thought
    B - Octavarium, Astonishing, Dramatic Turn
    C - Distance, Infinity, Dream and Day
    D - Systematic, Self Titled, View
    Overall you guys had a great list!

    • @CompleteProducer84
      @CompleteProducer84 9 місяців тому +1

      Nice list! It is so refreshing to see someone rank The Astonishing in anything but D. I would also have it in B. And if they could have trimmed the fat and did some final editing, it could very well be one of my top 5 favs.

    • @MrGnb123
      @MrGnb123 9 місяців тому +1

      @@CompleteProducer84Yes!

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MrGnb123dear God, no 😢😅

  • @TheRealJoeNathan
    @TheRealJoeNathan 4 місяці тому

    S: Images & Words, Black Clouds & Silver Linings, Awake
    A: Train of Thought, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory
    B: A Dramatic Turn of Events, Octavarium, A View From the Top of the World
    C: Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos, The Astonishing
    D: Dream Theater, Distance Over Time, When Dream and Day Unite

  • @user-bw9ys7mi4s
    @user-bw9ys7mi4s 3 місяці тому +2

    When dream and day unite is an S album. A fortune in lies...ytse jam ....the killing hand...afterlife...only a matter of time ...light fuse and get away....simply incredible

  • @jasonjames6383
    @jasonjames6383 7 місяців тому

    S: Train of Thought, Images and Words, Scenes from a Memory
    A: Six Degrees, Awake, Octavarium
    B: Falling Into Infinity, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn
    C: Systematic Chaos, Distance Over Time, Self Titled
    D: When Dream and Day Unite, Astonishing, A View From The Top of the World

  • @evilasiobjr
    @evilasiobjr 9 місяців тому +3

    Funny to see that SDoIT isn't A tier for some of you, which makes me think other fans have the same opinion, but it's up there for me, top 3 easily!
    And I also love ADToE, not their worst drum sound at all, better sound and song writing than the self-titled and BCSL for example imo.
    Great show, guys! Keep up the good work

  • @AngryCalvin
    @AngryCalvin 4 місяці тому +2

    The Astonishing is one of my favorites albums by any band. Dream Theater is my favorite band. I have every album of course and I don't understand why this album gets so much hate. Yeah it's very different for a Dream Theater album. It doesn't have a lot of metal in it. Yes it's probably a bit longer than it should be. But it's one of the most beautiful albums I have ever heard in my entire life. I would have to put it in S tier with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory. It's a very mature and different direction for my favorite band and I think it pretty much blows away any Ayreon album as much as I really like Ayreon.

  • @alvarovasquez998
    @alvarovasquez998 9 місяців тому +3

    My list:
    1.- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
    2.- Awake
    3.- Black Clouds & Silver Linings
    4.- Metropolis, Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory
    5.- Images & Words
    6.- Systematic Chaos
    7.- A Dramatic Turn of Events
    8.- Train of Thought
    9.- Octavarium
    10.- Falling into Infinity
    11.- When Dream and Day Unite
    12.- Dream Theater
    13.- A View from the Top of the World
    14.- Diatance Over Time
    15.- The Astonishing

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree with your top five. Just in a different order for me. But those five are definitely top.

  • @Aenigmakil
    @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому

    S: Awake
    A: Images and Words, Scenes From A Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Train of Thought, Black Clouds
    B: When Dream & Day Unite, Octavarium, Systematic Chaos, A Dramatic Turn of Events
    C: Falling Into Infinity, Dream Theater, Distance Over Time, A View from the Top of the World
    D: The Astonishing

  • @michalpachla2212
    @michalpachla2212 9 місяців тому +4

    Great! Can you do Riverside?

  • @solarwinds5114
    @solarwinds5114 9 місяців тому +6

    For me,
    S: Octavarium, Images and Words, Scenes from a Memory
    A: Train of Thought, Six Degrees, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn, Systematic Chaos
    B: Distance Over Time, A View From The Top of the World, Self Titled
    C: Falling Into Infinity, Astonishing
    D: When Dream and Day Unite

    • @markprice9579
      @markprice9579 8 місяців тому +1

      This is spot on. Exactly how I’d do it.

    • @mposh
      @mposh 7 місяців тому

      where's Awake?

    • @solarwinds5114
      @solarwinds5114 7 місяців тому

      @@mposh B tier

  • @KBH27
    @KBH27 7 місяців тому +1

    Pretty sure Hugh Syme did not do Falling Into Infinity. Someone who had done art for Floyd

  • @vallaindigital
    @vallaindigital 7 місяців тому

    Commenting on the "covers disk"... It's hit or miss for me, but I have to say that the best ones I have heard so far is the one with A.A. Lucassen's Lost In The New real. I just LOVE his version of Welcome to the Machine. Check it out!

  • @richardwoodhouse8404
    @richardwoodhouse8404 9 місяців тому +20

    Thanks for doing DT, been a fan since 92 and they are my favourite band, my favourite album is A VIEW FROM THE TOP OF THE WORLD, for me there is no other band that comes close to the amount of QUALITY songs they have produced ❤❤❤

    • @scottslaten6664
      @scottslaten6664 9 місяців тому +4

      And the fact that they're still putting out relevant material this far into their career is a testament to how incredible they are!

  • @jocool7370
    @jocool7370 7 місяців тому

    Falling into Infinity

  • @martijnvanspaendonck7989
    @martijnvanspaendonck7989 7 місяців тому +2

    Surprisingly good list! I thought I was gonna be angry. Only REAL changes to be made:
    Astonishing - S-tier
    Kyle - RIP headphone users
    Fun episode! Hour easily went by.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 7 місяців тому

      Point taken on the microphone levels. I've since addressed that. 🙉

    • @Beefnhammer
      @Beefnhammer 6 місяців тому

      Astonishing at S-tier is crazy.....

    • @martijnvanspaendonck7989
      @martijnvanspaendonck7989 6 місяців тому

      @@Beefnhammer To me, Astonishing easily has the most sofisticated and clever writing DT has done in 20 years. Maybe ever. Even to a point that me and a friend were suspecting ghost writers.. Because of all the bland and random (bad) melodies DT have been writing over the years. Not talking about riffs or proggy stuf, just composition wise. Flowing melodies, modulations, clever changes. S-tier. Oh, talking about disc 1 only.... :D

    • @Beefnhammer
      @Beefnhammer 6 місяців тому

      @@martijnvanspaendonck7989 I'm no expert in music theory so there very well may be an elegance to the composition on the Astonishing that is not present on other DT albums. But that alone doesn't make a great album. It's extremely bloated, boring, and I think a lot of people (myself included) found the story to be melodramatic and uninteresting. It's got a few bright moments, but getting through the whole thing is a chore.

  • @acc3209
    @acc3209 9 місяців тому +3

    Images and Words on top, then whatever you want

  • @thr3LoadR
    @thr3LoadR 7 місяців тому +1

    This is a VERY well thought out list. The only change I would make is to switch out Six Degrees and Awake. It's funny, because when Falling Into Infinity first came out, I thought it was a steaming pile of garbage. But over the years, it has grown on me immensely....particularly Peruvian Skies. I'm actually pretty content seeing it at an A tier. In any case, you guys are awesome! This was my first time watching you all, and I subscribed immediately. Looking forward to catching up on all of the content I've missed!

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang 7 місяців тому

    I would probably switch Six Degrees and Awake, also swapping Falling Into Infinity and Train of Thought, otherwise I agree.

  • @vince8081
    @vince8081 4 місяці тому +1

    Dudes... you forgot my fav ever track from them, a change of season. I think it's their masterpiece and most epic piece. Otherwise it's a well done tier list, totally agree with it.

  • @moonlightreveries1459
    @moonlightreveries1459 7 місяців тому +5

    Distance Over Time is an exceptional album. Underrated dude…. So many good solos, melodies, and sounds. “Barstool Warrior” and “Fall Into the Light” are exceptional songs……
    It’s also a pretty heavy album. I love that album. I like it more then metropolis part 2. I barely like that one. It has too many soft moments and just didn’t do it for me.
    We all hear music differently I guess. At least we all love Dream Theater; that’s all that matters.
    Systematic Chaos is amazing, you guys are tripping …it deserves at least “A” tier.
    Images and Words belongs in “S” for sure.
    Awake is amazing so, A tier is fine.
    Train of Thought is amazing and deserves “A” or “S” tier. Just my opinions.

    • @drummerdan95
      @drummerdan95 4 місяці тому +2

      Feels like they finally really hit their stride post-Portnoy with that one, I really enjoy the last two DT records.

  • @alvarojflorez
    @alvarojflorez 7 місяців тому

    My perfect ranking would be:
    S: Metropolis, I&W.
    A: Awake, SDOIT, Octavarium.
    B: Falling, Dramatic, Train, Systematic, BC&SL.
    C: Self-titled.
    D: WD&DU, Distance, View.
    F: The Astonishing.

  • @andrewsullivan3180
    @andrewsullivan3180 9 місяців тому

    The Astonishing was definetly made to be seen live. It was amazing in that setting with the visuals and it being a bit heavier. It is hard to listen to just the album though. I would have view a bit higher and FII a bit lower because of the few really bad teacks, but all in all this is pretty close to mine

  • @TwoandaHater
    @TwoandaHater 7 місяців тому +1

    I actually think this ordering worked out.

  • @Zacharilius
    @Zacharilius 4 місяці тому +1

    Atta boy, Geoff.

  • @PierreRohan
    @PierreRohan 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd definetely swap falling and octavarium with train and black clouds. Also, a change of season if considered an alvum is number1 top S tier !!

  • @stephenjoyce7061
    @stephenjoyce7061 7 місяців тому

    My list
    S: Scenes From A Memory, Images and Words, Octavarium
    A: Awake, Systematic Chaos, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
    B: Train of Thought, Falling Into Infinity, Black Clouds & Silver Linings
    C: The Astonishing, When Dream and Day Unite, Distance Over Time
    D: A Dramatic Turn of Events, Dream Theater, A View From The Top

  • @jeffscalise5927
    @jeffscalise5927 9 місяців тому +3

    Random comment: anyone remember the last DT/MP release (Raw Dog)? Cool song!

  • @AllMediaReviewsPodcast
    @AllMediaReviewsPodcast 9 місяців тому +1

    I agree with miuch of this.
    Here's mine (I should make a video. I already did a SONGS list video a few months ago).
    S: Awake, Images and Words, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
    A: Scenes from a Memory,
    B: Falling Into Infinity (this would be A is you include the Cleaning out the Closet Tracks), When Dream and Day Unite, Train of Thought
    C: Octavarium, Black Clouds and Silver Linings, A Dramatic Turn of Events, Distance Over Time
    D: Systematic Chaos, Dream Theater
    Haven't Heard in full: The Astonishing and A View from the Top of the World, although I suspect both would go in D.

    • @KyleFagala
      @KyleFagala 9 місяців тому +1

      If the record company hadn't meddled with Falling Into Infinity, it would have been better. No doubt about that.

    • @AllMediaReviewsPodcast
      @AllMediaReviewsPodcast 9 місяців тому

      @@KyleFagala yeah. I feel like songs such as Raise the Knife, The Way It Used to Be and Speak To Me, are actually better than nearly every track on FII.
      But I guess that's why those did get released, most recently on the Lost But Not Forgotten stuff.

  • @enricopallazzo2987
    @enricopallazzo2987 3 місяці тому +2

    Can’t believe no one liked Rite of Passage!!!?? Images is timeless and to me one of the best albums ever made and I still get called to it once a week at least. Minus pull me under cause it was commercially pushed.

  • @Ebastine
    @Ebastine 9 місяців тому +3

    Not exactly prog but if y'all like Maiden please do a ranking of them!

    • @progreport
      @progreport  9 місяців тому +1

      I don’t think we’ll get to them but you never know.

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому

      ​@@progreportnah keep it prog 🤘🏾

  • @Neo-Midgar
    @Neo-Midgar 7 місяців тому +7

    Wow, I don't agree with Geoff on *_anything_* 😂

  • @sjolson68
    @sjolson68 4 місяці тому +1

    The S and A tiers are right out of my preference. A Change of Seasons is also S tier, for me, and shoutout to Kyle for mentioning it.

  • @RickNBacker
    @RickNBacker 7 місяців тому

    Falling Into Infinity was the first DT I heard, listened to the whole thing at a Tower Records listening station. I like it a lot, but haven't really resonated with any other DT albums.

  • @paveltorres4275
    @paveltorres4275 9 місяців тому

    More!!

  • @yenneferalvarez7122
    @yenneferalvarez7122 8 місяців тому +2

    I think FII was their most creative album

    • @Aenigmakil
      @Aenigmakil 7 місяців тому

      Definitely not. Scenes From A Memory and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence are. But Awake is my favourite.