The NEW Sigma 85mm 1.4 art vs Canon 85mm 1.2 RF | I'm Shocked!
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In this video I do a field test using the Sony A7iii + Sigma 85mm f/1.4 art vs the Canon EOS R + 85mm f/1.2 RF lens. I was very surprised by the results at f/1.4. Settings were the same on both cameras for each comparison photo. Enjoy!
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Camera Gear Used:
Sony A7iii
New Sigma 85mm 1.4 Art
Canon EOS R
Canon RF 85mm 1.2 DS
Video Gear:
Sony A7RIII
Tamron 28-75mm 2.8
Edit: 1). I know I didn’t shoot the Canon lens at its fullest capability of f/1.2 for this video. 2). Both lenses are phenomenal! If I owned a Canon system, this would be the 1st lens I’d purchase. 3). Can we all just agree that 85mm is the best focal length for portraits? Love you guys! Thanks for watching!
@@faenjeggiropp Same here ^^There is no best focal length. People always forget that going wider even under 30mm can produce much more interesting portraits than the flattening 85mm. There is definitely no best focal length
Thanks for the video. I feel like the difference you note right away in the colour is due to the Sony body vs the canon body. You can’t really compare two lenses with such a massive variable.
If you use the EF mount sigma adapted to the canon, you’ll find that it’s actually more contrasty and punchy than most canon lenses.
I wished you used both lenses on the EOS R
This is the comparison I was hoping someone was going to do, but I was hoping it would've been on the R5 and A7r4 higher mp cameras. you said at the end of the video that both camera were at f1.4 for the pic you were talking about, was the Canon at f1.4 for all the pics ? because theoretically when the Canon is stopped down from f1.2 to f1.4, it should be sharper than the Sigma at f1.4 that is not stopped down. but you said the Sigma was sharper. so that is pretty amazing, the Sigma totally holds it's own against the Canon. to me both images look just as nice, the lessor contrast can be added in post no problem if wanted. Everyone is always talking about Canon glass. but personally the weight of the new Canon L glass is a big down side. 1195 g compared to 625g is almost double the weight of the the Sigma, and holding a 1195g lens up to your eye along with the camera weight can get tiring really fast. plus just walking around with it is more work. then you have the price difference of $2.800 dollars compared to $1.200 dollars, with that $1.600 dollar price different you can buy the Sigma 85 art and the Sony 135GM for the price of just the Canon 85L. and the Sigma image totally holds it's own against the Canon. and the weight advantage is off the charts. so to me the new Canon glass isn't a plus for the Canon system. between the weight and the price it's the down side of the Canon system. and the fact that unlike Sony, Canon won't work with third party lens manufacturers like Sigma, Tamron and Samyang. so all those companies have to reverse engineer all the lenses to get them to work on the Canon cameras. but there still is the Samyang 85 f1.4 for the Canon RF mount. at a low price. have your compared that lens with the Canon and Sigma ? personally if the Canon looked just slightly better, then I would say maybe it's worth the extra money, but I don't really see even a slightly better looking image. sure the f1.2 blur will be slightly more. but very slightly. personally I find it really hard to justify the Canon lens. The only Canon lens that I think is cool is the new RF 70/200 f2.8 L because of it's new smaller design. but the image quality isn't really any better than there older 70/200 f2.8 L. ( I wish in your comparison you compared the blur of the Canon at f1.2 to Sigma at f1.4 with some trees or foliage in the background ) something that shows off the quality of the blur. because the only thing that could justify the Canon price would be if the quality of the blur was allot nicer.
The Sigma 85 1.4 is a beast on the R5.
Hi. Do you refer to old dg hsm 85 art? How It works on r5, is really "a beast?😉😄
@@squarefann Yess! Flawless, no AF issues, resolution is stellar. The output with that lens is way better on my R5 compared to the output when paired with the 5D IV (whereas with the Canon 24-70 2.8 II it is the other way around in my opinion/case). If you dont care about the weight it is a good option.
@@niceyesplease ohh, really very grateful for your very useful opinion, thank you!🙏. I did not imagine that there was such a big difference between 5d4 and r5. I think that in addition to the superior resolution of the r5 the stabilizer in the body should also help a lot, because I am using this lens in 6d and (compared to other lenses that I have), this 85 dg hsm art, at least in my hands, needs a higher shutter speed than other lenses to avoid camera shake, perhaps it is the fault of the size and weight which make your wrist tremble more, that coupled with the shallow depth of field that this lens has and that the 6d does not have "eye tracking" or stabilizer makes it difficult to take sharp, correctly focused photos, at least handheld. The r5 is a temptation but it's so expensive...and I'm just a simple and poor amateur🙏😄
@@squarefann the files from the Canon 6D are awesome, beautiful rendering / colors. I think you are right with the higher shutter speed and the Sigma. Have you considered the EF 85 1.4 IS, very good and easier to handhold, extremely fast AF, unfortunately pretty expensive. Or the Tamron 85 1.8 which has IS too I guess! Otherwise you could get the R6 next year and trade in your 6D. Or, what I think is awesome, get a used Sony A7III and couple it with a used Sony 85 1.8 (350-400 USD), lightweight and supposed to be an incredible performer comparable to the Sigma ;-)
@@niceyesplease Thank you very much for your opinion and all the advice 🙏. Have you had a chance to shoot this lens in 6d? Well, in my modest experience and with natural light, working in raw, this lens has correct colors but perhaps a little off, for me it doesn't stand out for its color..., other canon lenses (such as the 24-70 II that you mention , which I don't have but luckily I was able to test for a few days) for me they produce a better and more pure and beautiful color in the canon style. With studio light it improves the colors a bit (or so it seems to me) and we avoid the problem of trepidation, etc (although I'm a simple amateur but I have some studio flash somewhere😄). The 85 1.4 L is I have also had the opportunity to test it a couple of days and they are so different... (this one and the sigma), they are so different that if your pocket is big you can have both without a problem, the rendering is very different , the bokeh..., and the stabilizer and the somewhat more contained weight and size are a point in favor of the canon, and the sharpness in the canon is also excellent -exquisite, in general it seems to me a lens with a little more "artistic" results "that sigma and sigma seems more" clinical or scientific "😄. The r6 is a good idea but (if I could💵) I would go for the r5 because the r6, although it is an off-roader, but seems more like a camera for sports or almost, and the R5 let's say for studio, portraits, fashion, etc and sometimes It may be important to be able to crop and detail, and I also want to try higher resolutions😄, although what I don't like is, as always in Canon, that it is very difficult for them to remove the low-pass filter, which is normal in the high-end of other brands in Canon the only thing they have released without a low pass filter is the 5dsr. I haven't tried any of the Sony ones yet unfortunately, also as you say I could sell my 6d and try to buy an a7III but I have a problem, most of the flashes I have and some accessories are compatible with Canon and I think I could only use them in manual mode and without HSS with Sony, so I'm a bit stuck in Canon😄...By the way, one last thing🙏, I would be very excited to see some raw of the r5+sigma85art ef, to be able to see it in lr, the resolution that get, dynamic range, color, etc, could you please share some with me? (for example by google drive or similar). Thank you very much🙏
I love canon as always but man... the price is getting scarier every year 😭 love your video 👍 well done!
I was totally on board with the canon until you mentioned the price! I don’t think it’s twice the lens for over twice the cost! Great shots man! I like the background music.
I really like the post production work put in. Clean edits that don’t seem over processed. 👍🏽👍🏽
Appreciate it man! Thanks for watching!
The Sony images are quite a bit warmer (too warm?) and the Canon more "cool". The bokeh of the Canon lens is quite a bit better imho - especially because the bokeh balls have softer edges and seem be perfectly round also in the corners whereas the Sigma bokeh balls look a bit like cat's eyes. If I had the choice, I'd clearly pick the R5 and the 85mm 1.2. Sad to say as a Sony user.... 😥😉😅
Good vid. You got right down to "the good stuff" with no fluff. Only issue is you comparing apples to oranges. 1.2 vs. 1.4 but you did not stop down the 1.2 to even out the match comparison. Why not?
Clicked this cause it was a comparison of two lenses I was considering. Only to find that it was on different cameras systems 😬😫.
It's hard to get a clear picture from these tests. IMHO you should check both lenses again on 'same body' with some adapter.
The Sony just pops a lot more. I dig it.
The test is not correct! It is known that Lightroom does not support image profiles from Canon. Therefore, for correct comparison, you need to develop Canon files as well as Sony in native converters, or in Capture 1. Then you will see what is the color from Canon. I have a Sony A73 and Canon R. And another thing, you need to set the white balance of Canon priority atmosphere, then come out a nice warm tones, suitable for portrait photography.
Тест не корректный! Известно, что Лайтрум не поддерживает профили изображения от Canon. Поэтому для корректного сравнения нужно проявлять файлы Canon равно как и Sony в родных конверторах, или в Capture 1. Тогда вы увидите что такое цвет от Canon. Имею Sony A73 и Canon R. И еще, нужно установить баланс белого у Кэнон приоритет атмосферы, тогда выходят приятные теплые тона, подходящие для портретной съемки.
I have the sigma 85 1.4 DG DN, and it’s nothing short of a monster! I had the HSM model also, which was a beast also, but a bit on the heavy side. Not that I cared, I started with a Nikon DLSR, so lens with some weight on it didn’t bother me as much, unless you’re trying to shoot with one hand and hold a reflector with the other. Lol! But! SIGMA ALL DAY!
Can't go wrong with the new Sigma Art lenses.
With crappy autofocus
@@aingzuu2110and focus breathing, yellowish tones and poor contrast compared to sony 1.4
It would be a more precise test if you had compared it with the same body , utilizing the ef to rf adapter. Understand the Sony sensor is very different and requires lightroom adjustments ….
03:58 There’s definitely a difference between the two lenses. I think the Canon is slightly better, but isn’t it better enough to justify the extra cost compared to the Sigma? I don’t think so!
The sigma bokeh is more "vibrant". We can clearly see it on the pic on the top of the building. Anyway I would prefer sample without edit.
Its a beautiful presentation. Everything is just smooth and really nice. Really worth watching. Would you plz tell that were the pics original (unedited in any software ) or edited ones ?
The comparison I was looking for. I want to get the sigma art 1.4. Since the canon 1.2 is way out of my budget.
Awesome review! I've been debating on which 85mm to buy, your review was helpful.
Awesome music! Fascinating comparison. I prefered the Canon a bit over the Sony.
I'm curious, was the dual pixel auto focus enabled in the R, I had my R for month using my Sigma 24-70mm art not impressed with the photos till I discovered dual pixel was never enabled. Enabled the option photos are sharper now. I love my R now. Keep up good reviews.
Thanks for doing this test (I was kinda curious about this comparison). That said, I would suggest that you compare the Sigma 85 1.4 vs Sony 85 1.4 vs Sony 85 1.8 (honestly, I don't care about the Sony 85 1.4, but that would be a good comparison). I feel that most people on the Sony system would be using the Sony 85 1.8 (as its a great value lens). I would be curios to see if the price difference is really worth it? On a side note, you could get the Sigma 85 1.4 & Sony 135GM and pay just a bit more than 1 Canon 85 1.2; I think this might be a more versatile set up.
Out of those, sony 1.4 reigns supreme. Hard to find an 85 that focuses quickly AND doesn't focus breathe though.
Nice pictures nice video indeed
I believe the real quality for RF lens will appear if you use Canon EOS R5... As EOS R's sensor isn't that great or refined as R5's sensor.
Thanks man. I plan on doing some work with either the R5 or R6 very soon. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching!
This is a great comparison. Although the canon colors are more to my liking, it’s not something that’s adjustable in post. The Sigma def kicks ass as well. Im considering getting the sigma 85 new version for my Canon dslr plus for occasional use on my fuji with converter.
What you favourite lens for photography
For test lens ... I prefer SOOC
I wanna know how fast is the sigma focusing on the canon r
I bought the 70-200 for my R5 it was a close call though!
Great shots man! Good direction with the model too
Awesome review! Keep em coming! Would have liked a few more picture comparisons in lightroom like you had the one at the end, but overall great review! Thank you!
Thank you for watching and thank you for the feedback!
great video! Do you have the Raw of the sony with the sigma? I have the same camera and I want to see the quality of the photos with that lens. If you can upload them, I would appreciate it!
Dude, why not equalize white balance in post, if not at the time of shooting using a grey card and custom white balance)? And native sensitivity varies between the sensors, so rather than using the same settings for both cameras (which puts one at a disadvantage very few real-world users would suffer), you should have set each independently - say, based on spot meter reading of the model's skin? As is, it's hard to draw any conclusions from such uncontrolled pictures.
If you want to compare two lenses fairly, you have to shoot them using the same body.
People often speak about the Sigma having a great deal of distortion. Did you notice that? .. or is distortion even a noticeable issue unless you’re shooting something with straight lines..
Nice video but I feel like you could've gave a bit more detail in lightroom for the comparison because most of your audience probably are photographers and need these detail more than just watching you shoot. I'm not trying to undermine your work, it's hard to be a photographer youtuber but that was just my opinion.
Thanks for the feedback! & thank you for watching!
Hey I think you got it, it's a work in progress as youtuber but you're definitely an awesome photographer.
I also found the Sigma a little bit sharper! Did you have the WB on auto on your Sony? Thank you for your nice vídeos!
what about chromatic aberations? It would be interesting to see in difficult situations
Good video, and as you mentioned, they both offer great sharpness, yet vary when it comes to their color renditions. Personally i think the sigma was a tad more vibrant. I was impressed with how great they were with just ambient sky light... nice!
Vibrance is mostly down to the sensor and the way the camera interprets the digital negative it natively converts from the photons. There's many flaws in this video, for example when he starts comparing the two at minute 5:00 , the shot with Canon is both farther from the subject (which impacts the depth of field) and also under-exposed compared to the Sony/Sigma combo. If i were him i'd shoot with both lenses from an equal distance. This video is so misleading overall. Yes you can get great pics with the Sigma, but the Canon version is on a whole other level from many standpoints.
I much prefer the Canon look, specially the skin tone, the Sigma makes things look a bit fake I feel. It would be interesting to try to match them in post though.
Loooool
@@shaolin95 I am more wondering what is happening within the used editor that makes the sigma image look like it’s already edited while the canon image like a plain raw file. The whole comparison seems to suffers from this, whatever the cause is.
This isn’t a true test of lenses. Those are two different cameras. The metering modes are different, it seems like something isn’t right
@@Seitenwerk that’s exactly what I noticed too. Something isn’t right
What i got frm ur pics is sigma bit brighter ...why so?..does their T stop varies?
when sigma sell the new 85mm 1.4 art for canon rf ?
The comparison seemed to be two photos from two different lighting situations.
This was a joy to watch
I think it would make more sense to have 2 of the same camera and 2 different lens for a test rather than 2 different cameras. It makes it hard for me to take the review as credible because Sony & Canon give 2 different looks.
However, I still appreciate the video 👍🏽
You can get Canon 85mm f1.2ii for the same money as Sigma and with an MC11 adapter you'll get the 'dream look to your pictures...
Dope work !!! Did you edit your photos entirely in lightroom or was photoshop used ?
I ask cause I would be beyond happy if my final work looked like yours but i havent gotten around to learning photoshop yet lol
still using only LR for all my editing.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliment! I use Photoshop and then finish my edits in Lightroom. A year or so ago I also used just Lightroom for my edits, but found much better results when using both. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Well thank you I was hoping the canon was going to blow the sigma away, I think the sigma looks better, I am a Sony shooter I own the gm 85 and the zeiss 85, but sense Sony didn’t offer a 85 1:2 I was thinking of jumping on the canon r5 and this 851:2 but after watching your video I will buy yeah another 85 for my Sony it’s the sigma 1:4 then sell my g master
Another great video 85 IMO is the best for portraits.
Superb shots and edits 🙏
Nice comparison, thanks and hello from Italy friend
If you had shot moving subjects you would not have been so pleased with the Sigma. Sony 85mm f1.8 upgrader talking, getting 1 in 5 in focus shooting playing/running kids with A7M3 at 10fps.
Yesssir, this is what I wanted....
what kind of editing did lightroom or photoshop do?
Nice Your work & model so much pretty
I believe that the Sigma 105mm f/1.4 would beat the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2.
great content, great video, and music. If you improve on your audio by using microphone, your video is going to be more awesome. You got great voice and enhanced audio is going to attract more viewers.
Thank you for the review/comparison.
I prefer the canon for shooting females for portraits its softer and gives softer skin without that orange peel contrasty pores
Wouldn’t be better if you used the same camera to get a true comparison???
Bro your work is dope! It's a sub from me.
I pick up this sigma lens tomorrow to go with my a7iv.
What metering mode did you use mostly for this model?
I have mine set to center for portrait but what is your go to?
thanks man!
Elzy, thank you for the sub and the comment. It's been a while since this shoot but I believe my A7iii was on center for metering at the time. Thank you for watching and enjoy the Sigma 85mm lens. It's really good.
In this case better skin color with Sony/Sigma (Raw / Final photo) and less expensive...
Nice images. You have a talent.
Music track?
Nice review my man 👌🏾 I just got back into photography bc I got a gig. I rented the 85/1.2 recently and love it so far. The focusing is slow af but that Bokeh is amazing. It's cool but pricey. So I've been look at that Rokinon/Samyang 85 for the RF mount. Its pretty close in comparison. But yeah, live your work. Subbed...✌🏾🚀
Thanks for the sub and the compliment my dude! Glad you enjoyed the comparison! That 85mm f/1.2 from canon is such a beast. Can’t wait to pair it with the R5.
over exposure and kelvin used
Canon better colors and dynamic range...CANON best....
Dynamic range? LOOOOL
Minute 5:40 U are comparing the out of focus Eye from the Canon with the in Focus Eye of the Sigma there. Both lenses are totally sharp, Canon has a slightly bigger out of focus area because of the 1.2. But in both pictures, u just had 1 sharp eye. At the moment im using the Canon 85mm RF, but im thinking to sell it and buy the Sigma. Image quality is not a big difference in my view, but the canon is much heavier and more expensive. When i shoot weddings, i have to carry 2 bodies. One with 85 and one with 35 for example.
Agreed both lenses are extremely sharp and other than the price point you can't go wrong with either. I definitely understand your point for shooting weddings. The lighter the better! Especially when running around with 2 camera bodies for 5+ hours. Thank you for watching!
Hey mate. I’m struggling to choose one of these camera ! Which one would You think is better. I do photography 90%.
Hi Ash, thanks for watching. My personal opinion is you can't go wrong with the A7iii. Compared to the Eos R the autofocus is much better. & the a7iii has better video capabilities as well. Some folks will say wait for the potential a74 release next year but the a7iii is such an amazing camera. Thanks again for watching.
@@DCaldwellPhotography I agree with you I got a7iii and it phenomenal, just waiting to pick up sigma lens..
yessuh bro dope
My favorite blundle is Canon r5 with Canon RF 85mm f1.2......by Nikon i switch to Sony...a7 iii is 24pm camera...if you use Sony a7 R3 ...42mp...the result be for Sony! The price ,also is too important....Canon did it the best portrait lens....Sigma overrall...the Best lens for Sony...The result is sumular ,that make the cheper the better !
Ridiculous test. The canon is underexposed 1 stop relatively the sigma...
When you make a comparison test of lenses you make it on the same camera and with the same histograms during the shooting.
Yeah plus something is happening in the editor that makes it seem like the sigma images are already processed instead of showing a real raw image
Good stuff bro
Muito bommmmm! eu estou juntando as moedinhas para comprar a Canon RP, mais aqui no Brasil o valor é muito alto!!!
comparing to lenses with different bodies just feels wrong
You can't really compare them on different cameras, you should have used the same camera for both. Sony colors suck compared to Canons in my opinion. That being said, I have the Sigma and use it on my Canon cameras and it's flawless
The video was, indeed, really nice but, tbh, If you didn't shoot the Canon at F1.2 then what did you pay the extra $1500 for? Are you even serious?
Those who are using dslr don't go go for sigma it's absolutely trash focus is inconsistent
i like the sigma , you can play more in lightroom with the sigma/sony
at 5:50 stating that the Sigma is a hair sharper than the Canon is such an inaccurate and unprofessional statement when you consider the exposure differences between the two which allows the sharpness of the Sigma to be easily perceived compared to the underexposed Canon version. Everything was off in this whole comparison, I'm sorry to say this but this video is mostly misleading nonetheless.
Im a 105 1.4 owner. always will believe in sigma, one of the best lens manufacturers out there!
I like sigma 85 art
Canon is very good I like
👍👍👍
Sigma 😍
I like canon more
Sigma is better 😁
Forgot why i am watching this video, #model
Terrible audio
This is comparing apples to bananas. This explains nothing lol
Great images, but what was that meowing in the background? I had to stop watching; annoying