Welcome to the fantasy world of Maplestory! The only game where you can fight your way through treacherous forests, long-lost temples, and downtown Detroit.
i didnt even play maplestory and same LMAO this song lives rent free in my head. so many people who played fantage did play maplestory and they used this music in their videos
I moved from MS China to MS US in 2007, when I was in grade 5. I met my first two American friends and one of them gave me an beautiful Independence Day hat that I’ve never seen before. We were hanging out together all the time and they taught me English. Soon I left because my free VPN service expired. My name is ChinaPaul but now China is banned from a name in game. I still kept the hat. Hope they can get back online again. I as a kid, used VPN to explore US, Japan, Singapore and Korea servers. Each with unique maps and cultures. It was truly a lifetime traveling experience. Friends I made 15 years ago are still connected with me through their wechat number in China. I lived in that world for my entire childhood while China and the world changed so much. Thank you MapleStory. This bgm is a time machine.
@@Dragonborn-dc4uj Absolutely not. VPNs are very very very very common in China. I'm American but I visited family in China every summer during summer break as a kid. Pretty much every phone and box came pre-installed with VPNs. I remember even in 2006 when the PS3 came out, VPNs were already on computers for you to play on PSN.
My eldest brother dropped a bunch of potions for my 2nd brother to pick up. A thief whizzes past, taking all the potions. I have never seen my brothers rage harder. This song reminds me of that moment.
I dropped all my 3rd anniversary Maple weapons on the ground in Hennesy, at a spot where nobody could reach, and some steelys too. Some dude teleported through the sky and grabbed everything but like 2 things. I was SO SAD.
Lol, my brothers and I only had one PC at home but we had different accounts, so when we wanted to give something to each other, we went into one of Henesys' shops (I think it was the weapon shop) and dropped the items behind a small wooden wall (the shop maps had all kinds of layers and objects where your character and/or items could hide behind), so nobody could see it. We'd log out, and log back in with the other account and pick up the item. We had to be fast enough otherwise the item would just disappear lol.
For real that bass line is so catchy. And idk if you guys have seen it but there's this ad for the Star Trek mobile game on UA-cam and there's one part where the guy on the ad is talking about "and here is the spaceship where you can customize---" I swear the background song of that sounds like this
some insane dudes used to summon J. Balrogs at the PQ entrance(3 manhole things), soon ppl freaked out, and Kerning became a huge cemetery.. whoa nostalgia😂😂😂
It has been nearly 2 decades since I first played and I still remember the music from this game. Sometimes I hear it in the background of people's youtube videos and come back here.
I used to not really do anything but hang out here. Idk why. I wouldn't even really talk to people nor did I really have a reason to be here. I think I just liked the song and liked watching the people do things. I played Maplestory a fair bit but was always very very low level because I spent all my time watching and enjoying other people. Weird, this song fills me with so much nostalgia its overwhelming.
Yo this game had a functioning economy, I’ve never experienced anything like it. I legit used to have deals up on this crane for work gloves and shit. Tell me somebody remembers
The GOAT lol you know someone was pro when they could kill those Jr.Neki without Miss.... people would accidentally go in to the middle portal and die there XD
Oh man, hours upon hours of joining a PQ group and vying with about 3 other groups to get in. Sending a scout to the sewer area to report on how many people were nearby, and insert some fake names and false info to throw them off. Then when the time was right, everyone rushed to the entrance again, and if the stars aligned, we'd get right back into the PQ and get to do it all over again. We'd sometimes get in 4 - 5 times in a row and really piss people off. God those were good times.
Brings back memories when rogues were a pain in the ass to train on the octopus mobs found just outside of Kerning, back when you couldn't use your lucky seven up close and kept auto hitting the mobs whenever they got up close, and considering how squishy asf they were just spamming away on red or white potions just to stay alive lol..times were harder then but really kept the game challenging.
Shoutout to the random level 45 dexless assassin who saw me trying to get to the third sewage pipe and gave me my first ever set of ilbis. Still playing this nightlord today.. only I'm level 205 now with fury's.
I used to look at the Nightwalkers class and really loved their character design of wearing a mask and the hairstyle. I worked quite hard to try and look like that lol and the Night lord standing upside down on the ceiling, I thought I could do that if I job advanced, I was disappointed but it was still good :D
I used to run kpq as a party lead. I would spend hours going through each channel, most channel 1 writing down everyone’s names for tracks. Over time I’d cross off the ones I found to be the most inactive and would end up with a solid list of active ones. Then sometimes you find those tracks to have leveled up and moved on to ludi pq and I’d feel happy for them. Those were the days.
Haven't played MapleStory for like more than a decade. Randomly heard this in the background of someone's UA-cam video and I'm not listening to anything he's saying cuz all I'm thinking is, where the heck have I heard this song lol. Man, good times.
How many hours were spent listening to this music while waiting for Kerning Party Quest. Sometimes you get bored and go into the sewer to fight some gators.
im listening maplestorys OSTS every dam day cuz its too good !!! and yep im that much starving for a new classic maple server from nexon CMON make it happen dont wait for me to be 100 years old !
From Maplestory nostalgia where I keep changing classes and making new characters every time I reached level 60, to drinking delicious beverages in a bunker Song is a banger ngl
Post Big Bang staters have no idea what Party Quests meant to Maple. They only see us talk about it. But man, hitting KPQ, shooting to monster carnival and then eventually LPQ was the vibe. What a classic time
It was the social media to the general populace And it one where you can choose to chill, be a businessman, an adventurer or an explorer Basically living your life the way you want in a fantasy world, it represents a free world you live in Games now just put so much emphasis on benefits, cost and returns that it feels like the restrictions of real life..
J>PQ lvl 29 dexless sin funded. I remember having a notebook full of IGN's so I could track people and get into the pq's. Remember how one person would get sent out before the pq ended to "scout" for people trying to get in? Remember how badass you felt coming back to pq as 2nd job? So many good memories with this game.
@@imdaftx wait that's RIGHT! You can start kpq at 29. I totally forgot. And you'd have to find a way to survive those damn block golems using only double stab
I am still waiting for my number... It's been 69420 hours... Hey! Do you wanna talk about how I've got this cool hat? I'm so desperate to get that hat, y'know.
I met my maple gf in Kerning. She was a mage, I was a sin. I think she was from the US, so timezones were kind of a mess. Pretended to go to bed, wait for everyone to go to bed and have dates around Ellinia from the family PC. Haven't thought about her in years, hope you're doing fine
I didnt liked being a rogue, but even if u didnt too, we got to recognize that the bgm is a masterpiece and all of us felt a badass, back in these days haha
Shit, Thief was the most popular class by far pre-big bang. Cool looking gear, ninja stars at a time when Naruto was still very popular, fast attacks, haste and flash jump before any other class got it. The prices for statted thief armor and weapons were so high because like 40% of everyone were thieves. Rogue job was shit just like anybody >30, if that's what you're talking about.
@@mementomori2839 i agree, thief is cool. I meant i couldnt be the class i would like to, so wasnt something with the class exactly, but something personal
i remember finding a scroll for glove att 60% from a blue slime at kerning city subway and i sold it for 2k. the same guy that bought it told me i was a noob cause it was worth 6-7Mil. Im 28 years old now and i still remember it to this day ! It made into a maple trader and i stopped hunting and just made money from basil market & free market. i went up to 50Mil before my account got hacked for everything. i still played casually until a little after the big bang update. So many memories and heartbreaks. I will never forget this game
did anyone else think Dark Lord was a floating demon head for the longest time? it took me way longer than it should've to realize he was hanging upside down from the ceiling :P
Vivo en Callao Perú y cuando camino por el centro de la ciudad pongo esta canción y la escucho aunque con mucha cautela, ya que algun shadower me puede robar el mesito 🤣
@@FlameINSnow i immediately left my mage for a bandit the first time i saw savage blow. I remade an acc a couple years back for nostalgia and went straight back to the shadower even when there were other op classes. All because of savage blow
Ahhh the infamous Naora hospital ... the place of many scams, drop games, and childhood tears. I was such a little shit back then... I hope none of my victims took it too seriously ...
You guys remember OPQ glitch? I had to physically disconnect my router to do it correctly. When it was patched, Level 50+ of certain classes effectively had no way to level consistently. This was before CPQ2.
Welcome to the fantasy world of Maplestory! The only game where you can fight your way through treacherous forests, long-lost temples, and downtown Detroit.
Best comment here lmao
Can't have shit in Kerning man.
LMAO
STFU
Don't forget the local Detroit shopping mall.
Used to feel badass being a lv 30 assassin just standing there in kerning city.... good times.
Exactly haha
Right. Just got the job advancement. Haste uppp
i am lv 174 you sucks ahahahah you bad
@@qawqaw1481 lmao I got to 140 in like 3 days on current Maple dude, you don't know the struggle that was v0.35
@@Gu1tarZer0 yea i know i played with tiger - tiger era
Remember when everyone used to hangout here in Kerning City instead of Henesys?
yeah..everybody enjoying jumping to the right drain at the pq area
this was back in 2011 or something, maybe even before that.
Party leader clicking or autoclicking like a madman while the others played monster cards or omok. Fun times.
I remember all the people hawking their wares near the sewer entrances.
try perion. it was a 5 frames per second area back in beta LOL
This legit pops in head ALL the time.
for real, every now and then I just repeat the beat in my brain and multiple memories run through my head
i didnt even play maplestory and same LMAO this song lives rent free in my head. so many people who played fantage did play maplestory and they used this music in their videos
such a masterpiece, hearing it for the first time in 2006 and still it comes into my mind very often.
I haven’t played maplestory since 2008 and this some always randomly pops into my head
I moved from MS China to MS US in 2007, when I was in grade 5. I met my first two American friends and one of them gave me an beautiful Independence Day hat that I’ve never seen before. We were hanging out together all the time and they taught me English. Soon I left because my free VPN service expired. My name is ChinaPaul but now China is banned from a name in game. I still kept the hat. Hope they can get back online again. I as a kid, used VPN to explore US, Japan, Singapore and Korea servers. Each with unique maps and cultures. It was truly a lifetime traveling experience. Friends I made 15 years ago are still connected with me through their wechat number in China. I lived in that world for my entire childhood while China and the world changed so much. Thank you MapleStory. This bgm is a time machine.
Probably one of the first consumers using a VPN. Now they are common as ever, man how times have changed.
@@Dragonborn-dc4uj Absolutely not. VPNs are very very very very common in China. I'm American but I visited family in China every summer during summer break as a kid. Pretty much every phone and box came pre-installed with VPNs. I remember even in 2006 when the PS3 came out, VPNs were already on computers for you to play on PSN.
China Paul wyd for work
i remember the struggles of getting onto the middle sewer platform, when only the badasses of bandits could do it
Could you always jump down from above ledges without having to take a rope or ladder or something?
@OVO XO By recent, I assume you mean "12 years ago'
It was possible for anyone to get the last platform, but it was a pixel-perfect jump that few could make.
middle or right platform ??? did you play the game ???
Or magic teleport ;)
That social aspect of maplestory prior to Big bang >
Vietpride619 Definitely, it was so amazing back then
Vietpride619
Go to henesys channel 1 and you may find some people to talk with
; )
Misuse of potion is good for your physical strength
Try putting that in a kids game nowadays lmao
@@shooby9496 what do you mean im curious
@@Levi-xu8dg Cuz the potion in maple story can immediately restore hp, mp or improve some abilities in a few minutes
@@justinlu8539 thanks but I was talking about Scuhbee's reply
@@Levi-xu8dg potion being a metaphor for drugs
My eldest brother dropped a bunch of potions for my 2nd brother to pick up. A thief whizzes past, taking all the potions. I have never seen my brothers rage harder. This song reminds me of that moment.
Lmao
thief doing what they do best
like your profics?
I dropped all my 3rd anniversary Maple weapons on the ground in Hennesy, at a spot where nobody could reach, and some steelys too. Some dude teleported through the sky and grabbed everything but like 2 things. I was SO SAD.
Lol, my brothers and I only had one PC at home but we had different accounts, so when we wanted to give something to each other, we went into one of Henesys' shops (I think it was the weapon shop) and dropped the items behind a small wooden wall (the shop maps had all kinds of layers and objects where your character and/or items could hide behind), so nobody could see it. We'd log out, and log back in with the other account and pick up the item. We had to be fast enough otherwise the item would just disappear lol.
When who summons Junior Balrog..
moist
I summon level 70ish robots on everyone at PQ area
ua-cam.com/video/Gj8VwdiaG9E/v-deo.html
We spawning endless tombstones with this one 😂
I still hum this song at least once a week and the last time i've played is over 10 years ago
Dude same. It's definitely one of the most memorable tracks in the game.
If you were an aspiring Night Lord you spent lots of time in this city I know I did lol
For real that bass line is so catchy.
And idk if you guys have seen it but there's this ad for the Star Trek mobile game on UA-cam and there's one part where the guy on the ad is talking about "and here is the spaceship where you can customize---" I swear the background song of that sounds like this
I beatbox it since forever
"Are you logging on from an internet cafe? Then come on in!" - Mong From Kong
Used to have bonus exp if you were logged on from Internet cafes in China. Everyone in the cafe were playing MS!
Aged like fine wine. I will always love the song for Kerning City.
I never quite appreciated this BGM when I was younger, but I sure do find it incredibly charming now.
some insane dudes used to summon J. Balrogs at the PQ entrance(3 manhole things), soon ppl freaked out, and Kerning became a huge cemetery.. whoa nostalgia😂😂😂
I once tried to follow the example by summoning a bunch of robos & toy trojans. Then people killed them for experience.......
It was funny one time i followed a dude back in the old maple days we went into the Kerning Potion Shop and killed noobs XD
I was one of those guys that used to do that to troll 😆
We still do that in the private servers lolol
It has been nearly 2 decades since I first played and I still remember the music from this game. Sometimes I hear it in the background of people's youtube videos and come back here.
I used to not really do anything but hang out here. Idk why. I wouldn't even really talk to people nor did I really have a reason to be here. I think I just liked the song and liked watching the people do things. I played Maplestory a fair bit but was always very very low level because I spent all my time watching and enjoying other people. Weird, this song fills me with so much nostalgia its overwhelming.
So YOU were that guy standing in Kerning City doing absolutely nothing for hours! Now I know why :)
@@mementomori2839 Just one of many, probably.
I can never forget this bgm.
When you had serious business with another player TAKE IT TO THE CRANE
Yo this game had a functioning economy, I’ve never experienced anything like it.
I legit used to have deals up on this crane for work gloves and shit.
Tell me somebody remembers
Damn right I remember. Scores were settled on this crane.
Almost any MMO with trading has a functioning economy. I loved Maplestory but it definitely didn't break any ground in that area.
dude that crane is where all the deals went down. felt like a crack head going there to get some loot.
Me and some friends revived the angelic blessing market on Windia lmao
@@tenjiechin I used to play solely on Windia
Really great, friendly server
J>PQ lv 29 dexless@@
you know someone was pro when they were in a robe and bamboo hat
im cryinggggggg
The GOAT lol you know someone was pro when they could kill those Jr.Neki without Miss.... people would accidentally go in to the middle portal and die there XD
How many posers do you think were out there wearing statless robes and hats?
@Social Relativity looooooool
Oh man, hours upon hours of joining a PQ group and vying with about 3 other groups to get in. Sending a scout to the sewer area to report on how many people were nearby, and insert some fake names and false info to throw them off. Then when the time was right, everyone rushed to the entrance again, and if the stars aligned, we'd get right back into the PQ and get to do it all over again. We'd sometimes get in 4 - 5 times in a row and really piss people off. God those were good times.
Wow I got some sick flashbacks from this comment. Good times.
S> tracking 5k
I totally forgot about that man. Thank you so much
This song + my jumping noises, such a nostalgic, happy memory
This song always gets me excited and happy for no reason.
That's called a feeling of nostalgia friend.
Some music just never leaves you!
I remember how once they added the Dual-Blade job everyone was all over this place.... I miss this times :')
Brings back memories when rogues were a pain in the ass to train on the octopus mobs found just outside of Kerning, back when you couldn't use your lucky seven up close and kept auto hitting the mobs whenever they got up close, and considering how squishy asf they were just spamming away on red or white potions just to stay alive lol..times were harder then but really kept the game challenging.
도적이나 암살자직업군을 좋아했던 나에겐 어린시절 잊을 수 없는 띵브금
Absolutely bro, this era of my childhood will also live on in my memories.
we making it out of the amazing bunker with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️
i grew up in the screets without no heart
Young savage why you trappin so hard
HAHAh im dead bruh
B> any scrolls 100k each
Pm me :DD hahaha
Sees random guy stopping in front of me
Me: *F3*
Shoutout to the random level 45 dexless assassin who saw me trying to get to the third sewage pipe and gave me my first ever set of ilbis. Still playing this nightlord today.. only I'm level 205 now with fury's.
This and Henesys are two songs I've never forgotten and never will.
I used to look at the Nightwalkers class and really loved their character design of wearing a mask and the hairstyle. I worked quite hard to try and look like that lol and the Night lord standing upside down on the ceiling, I thought I could do that if I job advanced, I was disappointed but it was still good :D
back in the day where u had to use summoning rocks to use shadow partner
Shit got expensive after a while
that sad moment when your track says they're in bonus, it changes to say they're in kerning city and you're still listening to this song
I used to run kpq as a party lead. I would spend hours going through each channel, most channel 1 writing down everyone’s names for tracks. Over time I’d cross off the ones I found to be the most inactive and would end up with a solid list of active ones. Then sometimes you find those tracks to have leveled up and moved on to ludi pq and I’d feel happy for them. Those were the days.
Had to search blindly through a Maplestory soundtrack playlist to find this because the song just popped into my head
this track is suitable when you are traveling through a city with train
Haven't played MapleStory for like more than a decade. Randomly heard this in the background of someone's UA-cam video and I'm not listening to anything he's saying cuz all I'm thinking is, where the heck have I heard this song lol.
Man, good times.
How many hours were spent listening to this music while waiting for Kerning Party Quest. Sometimes you get bored and go into the sewer to fight some gators.
pre-bigbang Maplestory had the greatest vibe to it
even though i had only played maplestory for like half a year, i was ecstatic when i found this theme playing in delicious consumables simulator
im listening maplestorys OSTS every dam day cuz its too good !!! and yep im that much starving for a new classic maple server from nexon CMON make it happen dont wait for me to be 100 years old !
Dude it was done for WoW AND Runescape. Like wtf is the delay with this? I'd play OSMS all day every fucking day I swear
That bass is so badass
커 커 커 커 커닝시티 커닝시티
아 진짴ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
i can hear the funny norwegian snus man talking over this music
There's a few places here where you could just hold the jump key and vibrate in place.
From Maplestory nostalgia where I keep changing classes and making new characters every time I reached level 60, to drinking delicious beverages in a bunker
Song is a banger ngl
The 711 experience
I remember keeping tracking lists on paper to know when to turn on the auto-clicker for sewer dungeon. So much fun!
Finally learned the bass to this after reminiscing about my childhood
Remix this with ToeJam & Earl song
WE DRINKING COLA AND GETTING SICK WITH THIS ONE!!!🗣🔥🔥🔥
ON GOD 🗣️🗣️🗣️
POV: You're drinking every drink in the Epic 7/11
frfr
Ah yes, the place where Mentos met Diet Coke
frfr
Post Big Bang staters have no idea what Party Quests meant to Maple. They only see us talk about it. But man, hitting KPQ, shooting to monster carnival and then eventually LPQ was the vibe. What a classic time
It was the social media to the general populace
And it one where you can choose to chill, be a businessman, an adventurer or an explorer
Basically living your life the way you want in a fantasy world, it represents a free world you live in
Games now just put so much emphasis on benefits, cost and returns that it feels like the restrictions of real life..
노을이 아름다운 도시.............
ah, good thing i was introduced to maplestory before i checked out those two roblox games
Splat Tim, you might wanna run if you drank the FBI Juice
初めてメイプルストーリーで選んだ職がデュアルブレイドだったから、俺にとってメイプルと言えばこれ、くらいのBGM
"/find [name]" x1,000
:D
My childhood.
This brings me Back to my, Thief days Clicking to get inside the KPQ :P Same with my 1st mage :) WOW Maple was fund & good Back then
J> PQ
The good ol' days before the Cash Shop.
i used to think that i was so cool listening to this song, it definitely fits the map
I havnt played in 10+ years but this music still gets stuck in my head and i immeidietly know what map its from
da amazing bunker simulator
delicious consumables simulator
Yes
Yes
J>PQ lvl 29 dexless sin funded.
I remember having a notebook full of IGN's so I could track people and get into the pq's. Remember how one person would get sent out before the pq ended to "scout" for people trying to get in? Remember how badass you felt coming back to pq as 2nd job? So many good memories with this game.
J>OPQ Glitch 100% lvl 60 funded dexless dit
Also, you aren't a sin till level 30. What pq? Hennesy?
@@mementomori2839 kpq bb
@@imdaftx wait that's RIGHT! You can start kpq at 29. I totally forgot. And you'd have to find a way to survive those damn block golems using only double stab
I can't believe it, OSMS is now actually official in Maplestory Worlds. And yes this is going to be most player's heard music if they wanna do KPQ.
reminds me of feeling grateful for my parents to buy me NX cash cards from 7-Eleven or Target
I am still waiting for my number... It's been 69420 hours...
Hey! Do you wanna talk about how I've got this cool hat? I'm so desperate to get that hat, y'know.
25等劍士待組++ .......(拿著海魚叉、帶著藍色斗笠....好懷念啊!)
还有我的21级小法师拿着刚掉的竹杖没人组
"Abuse of potions is good for physical strength"
This is where I hangout after school.
this song makes me want to eat consumables
I met my maple gf in Kerning. She was a mage, I was a sin. I think she was from the US, so timezones were kind of a mess. Pretended to go to bed, wait for everyone to go to bed and have dates around Ellinia from the family PC. Haven't thought about her in years, hope you're doing fine
All the cool kids hang out near the sewers, its true
제가 참 좋아하는 암도어 형님인데
This slapped back in the day.
I didnt liked being a rogue, but even if u didnt too, we got to recognize that the bgm is a masterpiece and all of us felt a badass, back in these days haha
Shit, Thief was the most popular class by far pre-big bang. Cool looking gear, ninja stars at a time when
Naruto was still very popular, fast attacks, haste and flash jump before any other class got it. The prices for statted thief armor and weapons were so high because like 40% of everyone were thieves. Rogue job was shit just like anybody >30, if that's what you're talking about.
@@mementomori2839 i agree, thief is cool. I meant i couldnt be the class i would like to, so wasnt something with the class exactly,
but something personal
omg yesss this city was always dead but had the funkiest music makes me feel so retro
i remember finding a scroll for glove att 60% from a blue slime at kerning city subway and i sold it for 2k. the same guy that bought it told me i was a noob cause it was worth 6-7Mil. Im 28 years old now and i still remember it to this day ! It made into a maple trader and i stopped hunting and just made money from basil market & free market. i went up to 50Mil before my account got hacked for everything. i still played casually until a little after the big bang update. So many memories and heartbreaks. I will never forget this game
Da amazing Bunker Simulator
did anyone else think Dark Lord was a floating demon head for the longest time? it took me way longer than it should've to realize he was hanging upside down from the ceiling :P
The delicious consumable simulator 🗿
Vivo en Callao Perú y cuando camino por el centro de la ciudad pongo esta canción y la escucho aunque con mucha cautela, ya que algun shadower me puede robar el mesito 🤣
as a shadower main, this is my theme when chief bandit was a thing.
I dont care what dk and sins gonna say , but savage blow is the coolest skill ever
@@FlameINSnow i immediately left my mage for a bandit the first time i saw savage blow. I remade an acc a couple years back for nostalgia and went straight back to the shadower even when there were other op classes. All because of savage blow
Ahem,
*delicious consumables simulator*
Sure
*eats lasagna*
someone finally recognized
達克魯 盜賊 超綠 伊卡路斯披風 破舊的披風 網咖
If you were in a robe and bamboo hat you were a PQ God
DELICIOUS CONSUMABLES SIMULATOR
Me omw to buy the Big Smoke soda I grinded for for a week:
man the nostalgia boutta make me spawn a junior balrog
The epic Seven Eleven theme
this song make me thinking about gangs in city, but friendly somehow...
Ahhh the infamous Naora hospital ... the place of many scams, drop games, and childhood tears. I was such a little shit back then... I hope none of my victims took it too seriously ...
[나오라]
ㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
You guys remember OPQ glitch? I had to physically disconnect my router to do it correctly. When it was patched, Level 50+ of certain classes effectively had no way to level consistently. This was before CPQ2.