Walt Disney: The Man Who (Kind Of) Created Mickey Mouse
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The Big Cheese has made their money off of the image of the man himself, Walt Disney. But who truly was he, and was Disney the actual creator of Mickey Mouse?
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Funny how Ub and Walt wanted to be released from commercial shackles, then grew into the biggest company to put shackles on people.
To b honest, If Walt had complete control over the company, I could understand the contempt for him. However, stock holders were a thing and most of the corporate stuff came years after his death.
Thats how life goes! 😫
It seems to me that these “brainchild” companies become a whole different creature once they hit success and lose control over the decision-making process. EA itself was once a small studio of about a dozen guys intensely passionate about “electronic activities.” Apple stopped being the underdog force of innovation once Steve Jobs left.
@@SomeFreakingCactus To quote the Danny Boyle movie. "You know how Musicians play their instruments? Well, I play the orchestra."
@@SomeFreakingCactus you either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain.
Imagine a different timeline where the aspiring artist Walt Disney is denied his Fine Arts degree at University and goes into politics while a young artist called Adolf Schickelgruber is just handing in his end of term papers as best of class.
So are you saying there is an alternate universe where Adolf Schickelgruber studios produced beloved animated films and Walt Disney became the fascist dictator of America? Because that sounds like a great alternate history story.
2018 in an alternate universe:
H i t l e r studios buys 21st century Fox.
@@panzerschiff9805 lol
They were both pretty antisemitic, I could see it happen.
Hitler studios owns star wars
Walt : **can't gain scholarship to art school**
Walt : _It's time to be the dictator of Germany._
Honest M'aiq
This angered his father, who punished him severely.
Your ancestor incestor. Your species feces your mom is gay.
Honest M'aiq The Disney Regime
@@ReformedSooner24 You. You're good.
Honest M'aiq NO
Alternate History Hub: What if Walt Disney's idea for Epcot became a reality?
Racoon City: Epcot edition.
Midgar, that's what.
Oh, this is something for a Disney channel to do. Like Offhand Disney or Rob Plays or Defunctland.
Disney world has tunnels underneath large enough to drive vehicles through. I've seen them! The company town of Celebration is the "Disney City" now. Great theme park, but they'd do well to treat employees better!
So we're going to gloss over how a private company wanted 20K residents to live within the US borders but not be allowed any say in local government (which most people will agree is the most important)? Like imagine if it took off so every company decided to have their own little corporate fiefdoms.
Since it never happened, why would we hyper focus on it?
It probably would of fundamentally changed our laws to not allow for such things.
If there is no harm, there is no foul.
Definitely getting strong feudalism vibes
I can definitely see a much darker timeline if that had been the case.
Well, it's an interesting case. The entire thing was technically private property. I don't think he really intended for the fiefdom part to take off so much as the city planning aspect of it.
@@jerm70 Company towns have happened in America, over and over again. The original Jamestown. Mining towns in the West in the 1870's. In Metro Detroit, the car companies all created company towns to build their factories in. Disney World has "Celebration" which is their company town. Very strict rules to live there. Employees are underpaid.
Oh boy
bring back cody and how it used to look
Is this the not less evil Disney?
Wait. Did cody lose his hair?
U touching boys again
The Mouse gonna be putting out a hit on you bro.
With only 3 circles, I dominate the planet!
Zhiyuan Liu I can make a mouse gigantic
"Now look at it! Gaze upon my empire of joy!"
Knowledge hub does it with just one circle
Clearly, there's nobody near me
@@tootsitroll9785 and a trapezoid
Sounds like Hitler, execpt walt's art career succeeded.
BMAN488877
Wait a few decades and the second option may become a reality.
First Disney buys Fox, then The Woooolrld
@BMAN488877 Only if America was a Nazi country that would lead to a mass genocide, even bigger then the Second World War.
And besides, would you really like an alternate universe in which the leading animation studio would shout at the audience in German? I think not!
Nothing wrong with that. @Young Thinker - iuvenis animo
And way more evil than Hitler.
@Young Thinker - iuvenis animo Umm... Proof?
cant wait until disney buys knowlegehub and makes a cinematic universe out of it
dumpster fire
Stuff of nightmares
It'd probably be pretty good knowing Disney. They make good shit.
@@kylemagaro231 Did you the new Star Wars movies ?
@@tuxedosteve1904 I did new them, yes.
Ummm... No.
So the original version of Epcot was essentially Rapture but on land? No wonder I both like what Disney does but I'm at the same time creeped out by it. It's ironic that an hyper-capitalist utopia city took on Socialistic design choices (central ring, all public transport, etc.) which just encapsulates the 1950s in a nutshell.
Hyper capitalism hasn't really happened yet. A hyper capitalist society looks more like ghost in the shell. Where data far outweighs materials in worth, to the point where even the meager deal in it. He was in the post monopoly era regulated capitalism. Central planning of course is not unique to socialists the biggest difference would be the ability to leave and the fact that epcot would still need to follow federal law. Thus epcot woulda been more like how we treat private camps and other attractions.
I'm pretty sure the epcot idea is what inspired atlas shrugged. The game is based on( and really fumbles by relying on a crazy amount of coincidences to criticize the ideas in the book.)
@@trentn1127 that might just be me then cause I always thought of Disney as not as old as it is. You know humans dont quantify in their brains correctly. How the 90s dont feel 20+ years away but oddly the 00s feel ancient now
houses are rented in epcot's original plan
Hail hydra!
Less like rapture, and more like an overgrown company town. It was more or less just a planned community, like Savvanah, Georgia was initially, but everything would have been owned by one company.
Creepy, yes, but in a corporate authoritarian way, rather than Andrew Ryan's Social Darwinist capitalist-anarchism.
It honestly sounds like what would happen if you explaines what an arcology was to someone from the 1930s somewhat poorly, and thats what they would come up with.
"Walt Disnies main fascination as a child was drawing and trains"...
I like trains guy comes to mind
This is well-timed. I've been reading the biography, "Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination" after work. It's well worth reading if you have interest in Walt Disney. He wasn't the best at drawing, animating, or directing, but he could tell a good story and he didn't stop at anything to make his dreams a reality. I find that beyond admirable and I hope to gain those qualities myself. His dedication to his visions were tyrannical. For example, many of his animators were disgruntled by the abuse of Disney and turned coat with Charlie Mintz.
While he could achieve his dreams and his drive towards innovation are amazing, I can't help but feel that his control of EPCOT wouldn't work out unless he changed himself. Without much doubt, it would have ended up as a real-life Rapture.
Well yeah. You can tell that they had Walt Disney in mind when they did Bioshock
I don't know about his storytelling abilities since almost his entire success is from making movies based on the work of others. What Walt Disney really excelled at was management, marketing and business. He could make high quality movies relatively cheaply, get them to a wide audiance and keep a consistent quality.
Efficiency was a big part of his success. Others could make movies that were on par with Disney if not superior but they would bankrupt themselves if the movie wasn't a smash hit. Disney could make those movies cheaply enough that he could make a profit from only a modest return. Also marketing was a big thing, he could really sway a crowd and understood that marketing is more important to success than the quality of the movie. Finally he maintained a consistent quality which is something Disney is still known for. Many people go see Disney movies just for the fact that they are Disney movies.
Walt Disney might not have been the nicest guy but boy did he have a great mustache
Just like the Austrian boy hitler.
He was nice just don't take his friendliness for weakness.
He does not beat tom selleck. Or earl from my name is earl.
I gave the sixty-ninth like... nice.
@@tuxedosteve1904 And the Georgian boy Stalin
What if Harald Hardrada won at Stamford bridge and subsequently beat William the Conqueror?
Harry McCall We would speak Norwegian?
This isn't alternate history hub. Its not even run by the same guy.
@@ellisartwist it is run by the same guy
@@connorleonard4047 Its run by his *brother*
As a Harald Hardrada fanboy, this is relevant to my interests
I'm proud to be the CEO of the Walt Disney Company. Can't wait to rule the world
The world would become the biggest Disney World
Mickommunist mouse!
This comment is beautiful.
Didn't they say your term would be extended 100+ years and you would become an uploaded intellegence?
Cancel Frozen 2 please
RobPlays, Offhand Disney, and Defunctland have made more in depth history on EPCOT, Reedy Creek, and the Florida Project if anyone is interested on the topics.
@Matthew Chenault yup
@Matthew Chenault lol I was already. Great minds think alike.
Thanks for the tip! I never knew that Epcot was originally going to be a planned community and now that I know I wanna learn more!
@@katerocks82196 No problem
RobPlays did a series where he showed a recreation of Disneyworld in Minecraft.
Kim Jong-un: The God Who Created The World
And the one who wont let us eat or have our freedom of speech
Wrong indeed
I hope Trump gets here hehe
Not racism, it's true that Anglosaxons and other European tribes (and those people descended from those tribes) have controlled so much in America. American Industry was made off White people, it wasn't Blacks, Arabs or Hispanics and though they're starting to contribute, they can't do anything about the years of White companies like Disney, etc. It's good that we're starting to see other races do so much (Black people founding and being at the face of businesses, etc) now. Sadly, it was now and not thousands of years ago. Vikings, Romans and other Euro-centric peoples are thought of as conquerors, when it's not just them. We've had Islanders and Native peoples conquer so much, Blacks and Arabs have also conquered, and maybe Latinos conquered? I sound like a SJW for this long-ass block of words, but Whites are largely the face of everything (which the Libtards have correct.)
(Insert 'But Whites are Responsible for Western Civilization and White = Right' comment here)
(Insert SJW screeching here)
Just a thought in Alternate History: if Disney existed in the world of the Southern Victory series, his family home in Missouri/Kansas would be awfully close to the Mason/Dixon line; which is where most of the trench warfare took place. Disney never leaves to France for he might have enrolled joined the war close to home. Again he might have been too young to fight and would still do mercenary work like in our timeline.
If he lives till the end of the war (from which the Central powers which America has become part of wins ww1), his family moves to Kansas City, and his ambitions of being a filmmaker flourish.
Also within this timeline Ub Iwerks is Ubbe Eert Iwwerks as there was no abolishment of German heritage in ww1 like in our timeline.
Maybe because of Disney being closer to the war would mean he’d profit more propaganda cartoons about fighting the south like what he did with fighting Nazis in our timeline. Just a thought.
What a coincidence that you uploaded this video while I’m in Disney World! Plus it is Mickeys 90th birthday. (More coincidence?)
Oswald deserves better. Epic Mickey took the first major step toward reacquainting folks with the Lucky Rabbit, but with Junction Point having gone under, I wonder who at Disney will succeed Spector and co. in terms of enthusiasm for Mickey’s half-brother.
Can you do history of alternate history hub and knowledge hub
How about do the alternate history of alternate history hub and Knowledge hub?
how very meta
@@Jakubkobelis Woah thats deep Bruh
Hubception
why are you on a lot of alternate history comments?
Disney, please don’t take down this video
Like the Roman Empire.
But more evil.
Where is that quote from again?
What did Disney ever do for us?
@@arkantos2227 he's not the Messiah! He's a very naughty boy
welp there you go disney fans
And I thought it would be Jack’s doppelgänger, Leo---DiCaprio. Not Lenin.
Hi
Lol
What if Walt lived long enough to see his dream of Epcot become a reality? That would be a good alternate history video eh?
Doing Disney at 666k, DEVIL.
Stupid
Let's face it, Disney wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for me. Who was the one that brought it back up from bankruptcy back in the early 80s? Who started the renaissance era of animated movies? That's right, it was me
Who caused some of the biggest failures in the company’s history?
Michael Eisner I have a question what should we always be doing???
A little redirection. Ub Iwerks was a very talented man, but he was married to the old style of animation. He was indeed one of, if not the, best animators that worked in the 20s who was very good at making his characters likable and personable. Not only was he very good, but he was very FAST. 600 drawings a day type of fast. In that he was in a league of his own. However, once he left, it actually turned out to be for Disney's benefit. You see, while Iwerks was incredibly talented, his actual animation was fairly close to the industry standards of the time. Once they stopped relying on Iwerks' peerless production, Disney's animators set about revolutionizing the industry by developing modern animation techniques that are still followed to this day.
By the time Iwerks was brought back to Disney only 10 years later, the company had made probably the most impressive leap in an artform that we've ever seen. They went from the relatively crude Steamboat Willie and other Mickey shorts, to the ridiculously polished animation of Pinocchio and the other Golden Age films that are in many ways unrivaled to this day in terms of animation craftsmanship. Ub Iwerks, was still only in his 30s when he went back to Disney, but was hopelessly behind the times. And so he worked on special effects. And it turned out he was awesome at that as well.
It still has over 666,000 subs
Now sadly 667
No don't subscribe to him, subscribe to pewdiepie
trying to unsubscribe to get it back to 666k but its not working boys
FLEENTSTONES?
@@serglian8558 subscribe to pewdiepie
Fun fact: for the Epic Mickey games Disney bought back the rights to Oswald. It’s a shame he hasn’t really been used since
0:43 he was just VORE
ello winston
>someone says vore
>holy crap its churchill
>whadda I do whadda do!?!
>link to vore_irl
>r/vore_irl
>it doesn't work
>try again
>reddit.com/r/vore_irl
>reddit is gay
@@serglian8558 just stop
I wish I had survived No Nut November but then your video came like me
...what? Bruh...
weak...
_s t o p_
NOPE
I bet it's going to be hard for me this year.
What if the Epcot city was built?
It would have failed miserably and ABC would have bought the company and turned it into the all devouring plague it is today decades earlier.
They tried. Look up Celebration, Florida.
It was. It's called "America"
Before even watching the video I want to thank you for being one of the last few content creators not exclusively taking suggestions from Patreon.
Your drawings of Disney characters look so good that I expect this video to get auto-DMCA'd.
The man behind your childhood revealed
Ub and Walt are the best example of true friends. They always had eachothers backs even through rocky times
"I like trains."-walt disney
I gotta admit, I wish we could have seen Walt’s original idea for Epcot brought to life.
Walt Disney is immortalized by the Media company he created.
Fun Fact. The Recording for Steamboat Willie was recorded in New York and Carl Edourade did the Conducting
This is why I say Oswald IS the original Disney character
PorygonQ Meme he kind of is
Same here
I've been to Tivoli. I was 6 years old and I remember it. Disneyland is very much inspired by it. (it's in Denmark for those who want to know,and yea I'm Danish )
Walt Disney : treats people badly, karma and cancer : this is where i come in
Finally! Someone actually talking about Iwerks. He’s my inspiration in life. 😁
Epcot city sounds absolutely terrifying. Impressive but scary as hell.
I live here in Kansas City, and I smiled ear to ear when you started talking about Kansas City
Damn, around 13:30 Disney's plan started to sound like Tony Stark's father's plan.
Joseph Krakowski
The man who (sort of) created this comment
Also the Man Who Was Portrayed by Jon Jafari as a Flex Tape Salesman
'He had a fascination for drawing even at this young age'
There are many interesting points in this sentence
“Disney moves to Kansas City” *shows picture of new york
If only he lived, just imagine EPCOT after it was finished
Probably not that good.
Fun fact Walt Disney created South Park back in 1978. He created it while on set for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
In Hollywood Studio, in Florida, the "One Man's Dream" ride states that Walt got the idea for Mikey Mouse while on a train on a vacation. Have I been lied to?
Ah, Disney. The only company I'd allow to become a mega corporation.
Yeah, no matter how sadistic they might seem they are still built and founded upon Walt's dream, and they know they can never disregard that.
@@trentn1127Not all of Disney. The executives are the ones screwing the company around, most of the imagineers still keep to how they originally started. But yeah, no company is perfect, usually far from. It's unfortunate to see such an inspiring group fall to the way side.
If you ever feel like a bad parent just remember that some lady over 100 years ago carried a child for 9 months just to name him Ub.
Glad you mentioned that Walt loved trains.
No joke I got a Disney world ad during the vid.
Out To Lunch yea they put adds on related content
My grandpa was an animator back in the day and (for a little while) was a competitor of him and Walt Disney was a brutal business man. He told stories about how the guy would walk through the studio and fire people who were shooting the breeze.
What
You pronounced Ub Iwerks wrong, it's Oob, not like Ub
"It failed until it didn't" really sums Walt Disney's entire life if you think about it
His avatar keeps reminding me of Lenin
Ahh, captain copyright abuse the antisemite and his merry band of corporate lawyers.
There is no proof of Walt Disney being an antisemite. At all. In fact most people who directly worked with him said he was a very shy but ultimately openhearted man.
Looks like we got ourselves a goddamn jew
@@CIA871 Correction, a COMMIE, spreading Communist lies about Disney.
A Commie Jew!
Also Starwars killer
As a jamaican "tivoli gardens " invokes very different memories from a theme park
Ub Iwerks is/ was AMAZING. He is/was SO TALENTED, Iwerks drew Mickey Mouse ,Mrs Disney named him and Walt Disney voiced him.
I know it's a stupidly minor, pathetic first-world-problem and typical-whiney-people-on-the-internet-are-resistant-to change complaint to have but... the stock footage is really distracting. It really takes me out of the narrative watching unrelated stock footage, especially when it's all glossy and HD and the subject matter is set in the 20s. I get having to keep up with the times and evolving the videos etc etc, but it's really taken that Knowledge Hub style out of the videos. That's part of what made these videos endearing. Who doesn't wanna see a poorly animated jaggedy-lined Walt Disney popping across a map on his journey to Cali?
Never knew about Ub, he was erased from history. Even the show one man’s dream at Hollywood studios about the creation of Disney doesn’t mention him.
I've been to the Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen.
It's the world's oldest amusement park going back all the way to the 1500's.
It's very beautiful there.
999th
2:29
That draw will follow me on my nightmares, thank you
It’s almost it’s birthday for this vid
He couldn't create an empire to conquer Europe but he sure did create an empire to conquer the entertainment industry.
Wow.. I thought Disney was just a movie company. Well I knew some of this at least.
*RUNS HOME TO LOOK UP HOW DISNEY STARTED*
‘You said?’
Your handmade drawings were beautiful.
I am loving the weird drawings
Keep up the good work
Wouldn’t be surprised if Disney bought this channel and made pro Walt Disney videos
Look how many movies and shows have "Buena Vista Entertainment" in the credits, thats Disney. You would be amazed how many things they have a hand in.
Alt history idea: what if Ub stayed with Walt Disney’s film production throughout
6:48 it’s ok I didn’t need my eyes anyway.
I’m at 11:00 as of typing this. Walt’s story is going to be over soon
(Edit: It was very interesting learning about the creator and beginnings of one of, if not, THE largest entertainment company in the world. If only they didn’t own EVERYTHING now.)
And now he is presumably frozen down in Disney world.
*Disneyland
“With the war going on box office sales were suffering”
i heard that mickey mouse was created cause walt was kinda crazy and saw a mouse but imagined it was talking.
6:49 & 10:59 - Wow! The likeness is uncanny.
Ever been to the GM/Reneconce building in Detroit? It has a people mover and hotel in the middle with shopping and business in rings around. Parking is off to the side and it has an amazing view of the lake.
are u related to the channel alternate history hub?
@Marc Singleton so,is it?
that's was great, i wish you do the same for the creator of Betty Boop, Felix the cat, Popeye and all those i can't put a name on it. this could turn into a great series!
Amazing that this used to be Knowledgehub. How times changed.
Ill never look at that Epcot ball the same way again
I love how Walt Disney, an animator turned theme park manager, designed a better suburban layout plan than any other city in North America. Seriously, American style suburbs are just terrible, how tf is an onion with a monorail THIS much better?!
It's like the start of the Roman Empire,
but with animation instead of military conquest.
before companies started with a guy who "liked to" "didnt like how to" or "what if we too", nowadays is "how much money can i make!?"
Why does the narrator look like Emperor Ming now?
Oh, it's Tyler.
Oh, so that's how that 2017 movie got its name.
those drawings will haunt me
Walt Disney ? Ub Iwerks ? Pat Powers ? Are these names...... real ?
I read a biography on Walt
I read that universal bought his workers out from under him except for Ub and 2 other workers
Joseph Krakowski 1 other actually
Close though gg
@@oswqld
No it was 2
I remember from the book
There was a soviet workers union in Disney btw
The editing on this was great!
As someone who has met ub's son it's more interesting to hear about this story