The way people see ourselves is almost always different from the way we really are. It's not uncommon for people to fall back on some cognitive bias to justify actions that fall outside our perceived norms.
You uh, forgot to mention one of the most notorious lawsuits involved with Ford: Dodge vs. Ford Motor Company. In it, the Dodge brother's accused Ford of spending the profit of the company on higher wages for the employees and lowering the price of goods, rather than maximizing profits for the shareholder's (as the Dodge brothers owned about 10% of the company, second only to Ford himself). The courts ruled in FAVOR of Dodge, setting the precedent. Oh, and then the Dodge bros used the money from the lawsuit to open their own competitor company. I get why Ford was upset.
The lawsuit happened in 1919 and Dodge was already in production for over 5 years by that time. You are correct about the other aspects of the lawsuit though as Ford wanted his workers happy and share in the American dream so that they could be better employees. Ford was selfish and conceited on some levels as far as not giving individual credit to those under him and a good employer to those who didn't desire recognition in that regard.
@@bonkboye8191 ford is literally credited for standardizing the assembly line in a practical way that people could copy which created a massive amount jobs and basically created the foundation of the middle class of america. he will forever be remembered for that whether or not you bitch about his views (which by the way were very common views back then, nearly all nations whether black white asian middle eastern etc disliked jews for centuries until some western nations could use it to their advantage during ww2 to demonize germany) you're using a modern point of view to complain about the general line of thinking 100 years ago, it makes you sound really stupid
The Success wasn't meant to go fast. It was a highwheeler. It was meant to drive through high water, mud, rocks, debris in fields. It was like an off road vehicle. Besides, it was considered dangerous to drive 20MPH at that time. Roads weren't smooth and clear. You don't judge a tractor by its top speed. Now don't get me started on Edison, innovator until he wasn't...
Edison was an innovator until the very end. Innovator just means you are constantly trying new and inventive ideas. It doesn't have to mean those ideas are going to be successful. For example he tried to make an entire house from only concrete. The upside was that it was dirt cheap, the downside was that people don't like looking at walls of concrete or want to have other people look at it. He didn't allow for his homes to be plastered as it would add to the price and he seemed to like the look of concrete. He made over 10.000 of the concrete homes, almost none sold. He even sold concrete furniture like chairs and couches. He also tried to get into the car making business but unlike most he was insistent on an steam powered car. The thinking was that it would be cheaper and could run on any fuel available. The problem of course is that steam engine don't have anywhere near the power to weight ratio of internal combustion engines. Henry stopped being an innovator because he stopped innovating and became very conservatist.
Just thank the car gods every day that the Model-T's control layout never caught on. You had three peddles on the floor and none of them were the throttle, that was on the steering wheel next to the spark advance. You had one peddle that was your reverse gear, one that would shift either between high and low gear, or low gear and neutral, depending on where the handbrake lever was, and the third peddle was a brake. It was fine for cruising down the highway, but can you imagine how awkward it would be in heavy traffic.
Ray Ceeya You’re absolutely correct! I owned a 1926 for 12 years or so but I found it easy and was driving it within 5 minutes of bing shown by the previous owner! They layout was the right pedal was the brake,the middle was reverse and the left was how you went, down all way was low,out was high and in between was neutral. I only drove it around town but my leg would get sore since I could only keep it in low.
I’ve driven one. Nothing at all is intuitive to us today. I stalled it several times due to the neutral position on the left pedal only being half way down. The system is easy for someone that had never driven though. The owner of the T model’s son was seven and could drive it without issue. He didn’t know that that pedal should have been a clutch and go all the way to the floor to stop.
Yeah the one nice thing about it is you can cruise down the road without even the pedals. So I guess Henry Ford invented cruise control too... Really though, that's how a lot of old tractors work. When you're harvesting or plowing a field you just want to set your machine's speed and trundle off at the most efficient speed. When I was a kid, my dad had old two cylinder John Deeres with hand throttles, hand clutches, and differential brakes. So to come to a full stop, you throttled back, with your right hand, disengaged the clutch, with the same hand, and then used both feet on both brakes. Left hand stayed on the steering wheel. Also, if you were really good, you could change gears on the fly while turning by using your right hand on the clutch, your left hand on the snifter, and steering with your feet on the differential brakes. I never got that good.
That was pretty much what I was taught in school. I remember being shown a video in high school which said that, prior to the invention of the Model T, everyone got around in a horse and buggy.
Brittney Brisbin well that isn’t wrong, he definitely popularized it and made it affordable, but it was invented before he was even born if I remember correctly
@@jrcautomotive4319 I was going to edit my comment and say that I knew it wasn't technically wrong, because he did make the car more accessible to everyday working class people, but the program I saw did state that he invented the car rather than improved on and popularized it. Also, I just did a couple quick Google searches. Henry Ford was alive when the first car was invented. He was born in 1863, while the first car was invented in 1885.
Henry Ford was not a saint. But he fought with his investors to get better pay for workers. At least in the beginning. He believed the workers should share in the profit and they should be able to afford a car. I don't see that by any company today.
Biao Wang hard to buy anything when your community has all its jobs shipped overseas by greedy capitalists trying to make billions rather than just be happy with millions they already have.
Yingyanglord1 that’s because greed is blinding not innovative, we can see this in Henry’s own life with his fear of trying new ideas because he was afraid of losing profits. Causing him to wait too long and then lose out anyway because the Great Depression hit, but these sociopaths can’t ever take the blame themselves so instead he blamed his son’s good idea.
no the Model A (the first one) was a dodge chassis and engine, Ford's "assembly" plant mated a purchased body to the Dodge sourced chassis, put wheels on it and it was complete. Without the Dodge brothers (or whoever would of made the engines, transmissions, chassis , steering, brakes and suspension had the Dodges not been around or declined to participate in Henry's little project) there would of been no Ford, but without all the money the Dodge Brothers made producing parts for Ford there wouldn't of been any Dodge cars either. I'm not to sure that Henry had much influence on what eventually started rolling out of the Cadillac plant.
You didn't mention that Ford revolutionized working hours, being the main drive in making working days 8hrs instead of 12-16hrs, while still earning the same.
muuubiee Yeah, he definitely wasn’t a good guy by our current standards, but he certainly was by then standards, and the improvements he made to their lives are still felt to this day
Gerard Kean Well, he was partially correct. “On 5 January 1914, the Ford Motor Company took the radical step of doubling pay to $5 a day and cut shifts from nine hours to eight, moves that were not popular with rival companies, although seeing the increase in Ford's productivity, and a significant increase in profit margin (from $30 million to $60 million in two years), most soon followed suit.”, from that Wikipedia article that you cited.
"He might have some pro german sentiments"....c'mon he was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by the Nazis, the highest honor for a foreigner and the first American to receive one. Even though it's said that he despised nazi militarism he definitively had some sympathy for them (as many other people did back then before the war). Maybe you avoided mentioning Nazis for fear of demonetization but certainly his later years really show a lot about his character that the model T success usually overshadows
It took "The Cars that Made America" on the History Channel 3 hours to explain all this and you did it in 16 minutes. Man you're good! And I would love to see a video on how the car changed American life! Please make one!
A random person who is too obsessed with old cars some not a lot though but some people just opposes since they don’t like the truth but I digress it’s a great documentary another good one would be the great cars series
You mean to say that the self described second channel of alternate history hub is owned by the same guy from alternate history hub?! Get ooouuuuttt no way
Had to scroll way too far to find this; thank you for posting it! We need more info on the impact that bringing cars to the masses had on infrastructure and society as a whole.
First car I ever changed an engine in, was a 1929 Model A Victoria. Car was owned by a good friend's parents. This friend has a sister. Yep, named Victoria! They also had a 1957 Ford Fliptop. (Skyliner.)Changed main bearings in THAT one, with the block in the car. My friend had a 1962 Chevy Corvair, a convertible model, that he turned into a Spyder. (In 62, the turbo Spyder model VINs ran consecutively with the base models, so no one ever found out.) THAT car was AMAZING, in that he "blueprinted" the engine, beefed up the turbo, and installed a 2 BBL Weber sidedraft, with vacuum secondary, controlled by a dash switch. steve
The fact that Henry Ford took credit for his son's accomplishments and bullied him to the point to reducing Edsel Ford to tears, while Edsel was dying of cancer no less just shows what kind of black heart Henry Ford had. The only excuse Henry Ford gave was that he wanted his son to get mad, but he never did. What a goddamn troll... I should also point at the realities of Ford's 5$ wage: the work required on the assembly line was absolutely exhausting, Ford had a worker turnover rate of 90%, and the high 5$ wage was just an attempt to hold onto their own workers from quitting on the first week.
IMO those workers should've burned his god damn factory to the ground. Nah just playing but yeah this is pretty sad but very interesting. Henry comes off like vito corleone in that he refuses to adapt to the changing times until it's too late but it ends with a game of thrones style wrestle for leadership of the company
@Wellrock Commentary Well, to Henry Ford's credit, when he held the meeting to discussing raising the wage, most of the Ford people in that meeting were absolutely outraged. You weren't supposed to be paid well for hard work, that went against Social Darwinism and Laissez-Faire Capitalism. 5$ a day for a bottom level grunt worker was completely scandalous at the time, so I will give Henry Ford credit for not succumbing to the peer pressure from the 1%.
George B. Selden was a New York lawyer who literally drew a crude design for an internal-combustion powered car on a napkin at a restaurant. He cleaned it up, submitted it to he USPO, and got the patent, despite the fact that he had no working model to go with it (as was usually required, to demonstrate practicality of the idea). Through the years he threatened to sue anyone who infringed, and they backed down -- all except Ford. In the years between, the Selden Patent had almost as much of a restraining effect on American innovation in automobiles as those silly "man-waving-a-red-lantern", 5MPH speed limits, and horsepower taxes did in Britain.
They were around before patents! Caveman who discovered fire was forced to give away his wife and best mammoth rug to man who claim he created it. A lot of crap was thrown during the trial... probably literally.
@@breakingbacon658 Ya basically what I was saying except theirs a difference between a caveman discovering fire and someone filing a broad patent that can be applied to so much that millions of products can be under the patent. If a caveman discovered fire it wouldn't matter if another caveman somehow communicated to him that he discovered it first. And i know you were joking, but a lot of idiots aren't going to realize that and they'll think cavemen actually had trials.
I think it’s funny how Edsel was mainly focused on the styling of cars, and then the brand which the company created named after him failed in part due to consumers thinking they were ugly
Went to the Ford Piquette Plant. I can’t believe how long the Model T went. They have some of the rarest models of Model Ts and they look the same. He milked the same car for 20 years. Just amazing, he just thought the car was that influential. Edit: They also have one of the last model Bs on Earth. The one they have was also the first one made.
Dude just so you know you could get a model T in any colour. The one colour thing is a myth as the dark blue/black models lasted better due to the treatment of the metal and they were seen as more desirable.
Hey man I would love to see you doing how Henry Ford II brought the legendary Mustang and how he won with the GT 40 on Le Mans with the help of Carrol Shelby
This is why I compare Elon Musk to Ford; Musk didn't invent the electric car, nor was he the first to propose or do spacecraft recovery, he simply made them more practical for common use.
I would have to agree I like that all teslas are at such a practical price and the fact that they make a very poor product in comparison to the competition in regards to finish,and having it built in such a way that if it catches fire its nearly impossible to put out because that really is what practicality is about
I say "more practical" since EVs before Tesla had these problems _and_ other issues that Teslas do take care of, such as the range and ascetic design. I know they still have a way to go in order to perfect their product.
I still can't see how spending upwards of 70 grand just so you can pop to the shops and back without having to charge your car for seven days is practical, you'd burn a lot of petrol before making up the difference of that practical decision
Arjun Kaycee Vladimir Lenin modeled his entire program for the Soviet Union's industrialization on US industrial practices - especially on Taylorism and Fordism (a sort of "Soviet Americanism")
Definitely, would love to see the other videos going further into depth about the cars and Ford. I honestly doubt the Model T was the only major thing to help him launch the company. I remember seeing a show that mentioned how he bought a manufacturing plant, that was specifically built to help him mass produce cars (the Model T even, I believe), so, certainly seeing his innovations that lead to that, and many other things would be wonderful to have in future videos.
His dedication to making the Model T affordable was almost obsessive. It almost consumed him and destroyed the company. The passion or obsession he had to make the Model T as cheap as possible made the automobile available to people of modest to moderate means. This changed our country and society for both good and bad, probably in more ways then we'll ever know.
@not Shane kid judaism is an ethnicity as well as a religion, how else do you think israel enforces their judaic ethnic citizenship requirement, just to be able to even so much as live there?
Hey Tyler, just a quick comment to say that your commentary and pace has improved a lot and i find your work much more enjoyable than before.Thanks for all the knowledges.
Huh, that was an interesting video. As a German I never thought of Ford as father of the car (that is Benz in my mind) or the father of the assembly line (while it is an older sentiment the best expression of it I saw thus far was by Adam Smith; while (IIRC) he doesn't mention production at physical assembly lines they began to crop up in his time and incorporating those was only logical). I always thought of him as one of the figures that didn't innovate, but improve. More specialisation in the assembly line (while not reaching the levels of Smith's famous pin, which was truly insane) and getting production to a large scale, using interchangeable parts to ease logistics and starting the five dollar day to solve the problem of workers going numb, which was already mentioned in Wealth of Nations.
A LOT of opinion presented as fact in this video. *Should GM have bought Ford at the price demanded?* Maybe not. If you overspend on purchasing competing companies you create a very dangerous incentive. Anyone who wants to make a quick buck will start a competing company and pretty soon you run out of money to purchase them and you're swamped with new competing companies. It's not clear that GM could've known how successful Ford would be, and even if they could, it's not clear that purchasing it at an inflated price would've helped them in the end. Remember, GM survived, and that's not a sure thing for any company. Things could've gone much worse. *Was Henry Ford wrong to blame the over-designed model A and not the depression for the lack of sales?* Maybe. While the depression would obviously have hit hard either way, the more utilitarian design of the previous model would've been better suited for the tighter economic conditions. There's plenty more but I'll be surprised if people read this much so I'll leave it there.
If GM bought Ford... the American automotive industry might have dissappeared. Monopoly would lead to technological stagnation, and American market could have been overrun by Italians and Germans long before the Japanese came into view. Then again... American cars were always a few steps behind European ones, perhaps some import tax I don't know of was in place.
The Model T was a technological and stylistic dead-end, which should have been terminated with the end of the deep post-WWI recession in 1923, at which time Ford was giving them away for as low as $250 -- pricing that was below cost. The T had no potential in the Depression years, which were actually times of great technical and stylistic innovation in automobiles; the public had moved on and expected way more than what the T could offer. Evidence: the Durant Star, a slightly upmarket T clone, enjoyed good sales through the mid-20s, but demand collapsed by 1928. It was not revived later, whereas it should have been if your "Depression = poverty = erosion of expectations/willingness to settle" assumption were correct. In fact, Depression buyers were MORE demanding as to the performance and features found in their cars, not less; anyone with free cash in a depressed economy can afford to be.
The chief designer of the Ford Model T was a Hungarian engineer called József Galamb. When he visited back to Hungary, he was invited to dine with the Admiral Miklós Horthy, Regent of Hungary (the head of state in the absence of a monarch) and he asked if Galamb could help his elder son to get an internship at Ford. He responded: "Only if he has the best school grades." He indeed had, as he was a very talented young man, so he was allowed to travel to America. István Horthy soon began at Ford as a simple factory worker and soon worked himself up to become an engineer. When he returned to Hungary he became a chief engineer at the Royal Hungarian Railways and oversaw the design process of one of the most successful steam engines ever, the MÁV Model 424 "Bivaly" (Bison). He even managed to beat the British in a tender and sell this engine to the Indian railways. Unfortunately the outbreak of WW2 prevented the actual delivery. The 424 was pretty much the Model T of railway locomotives. Horthy's experience at Ford helped the Hungarian railway industry to thrive, to the point that MÁV produced a super fast steam engine, Model 242 "Nurmi" (nicknamed after a Finnish olympic runner) which was only slightly less powerful than the fastest one ever, the British "Mallard". He served as a fighter pilot in the war, as a 1st Lt. of the Royal Air Force. He met a sad and early demise when he crashed with a Hungarian-built Re-2000 "Héja" (Kestrel) fighter on the Eastern front. If that never happened, Hungary's history would've probably taken somewhat different turns.
Fun fact my sister was writting a book that mentioned the model T. After pointing out it wasn't invented yet I spent five hours in the dead of night finding the appropriate model for her. Listening to the audio book there are times when the car type switches and that is my fault.
it sounds like there would of still been a ford without the dodge brothers, they where just two of the many investors, the only reason they where the only ones named is because of the importance of Dodge becoming a car manufacturing company separate from ford.
6:36 - you reeeeally downplayed that part. Employee turnover was a huge problem for automotive industry at that time, and Ford's rate was revolutionary and considered insane by many of his competitors, who prophesied he would soon get out of business due to it (competitors who not long after followed his exaple, seeing how crazy successful it was). Also, there were some conditions one had to meet to get it, some of them pretty... interesting (for example, you had to live an "American lifestyle"). Really cool video tho, I learned a lot new.
Very interesting case. A lot of peopletalk about VHS vs Betamax struggling to be the standard, and people like to claim Betamax was technically superior... not exactly. It had a superior picture quality, but they refused to increase the play time for years, and had an inconsistent user experience, adding and removing features on their VCR models, among other blunders. The VHS had what customers wanted - good enough quality, long play time, standard features in many models. The Model T was similar - not necessarily pretty, but not expensive, and powerful enough to make the purchase worthwhile... The right balance for it to take off, and Ford is remembered as the father of the car.
@@tristanovic2-531 yeah but lately, AHH hasn't been his "alternate" side... just today he posted a video about Paraguay that didn't have no alternate time line explanation
I would love to see a video on how the commercially affordable automobile changed the nation's dynamics. That said, I would also like to see a video addressing why the US has been so adamant about hindering the development of public transit in its own borders. Why is it the US has been so deadset on building its infrastructure around the personal automobile for so long? Why has it been only in the past decade or so that some US cities have decided to redesign themselves around pedestrians and public transit? Why is it taking the US so long to make things convenient for people who don't have immediate access to some kind of automobile or live in sparesly populated areas?
I watched the History Channel special about the American Auto industry and took great pleasure in the fact Mr. Henry wouldn't have made his Model-T without the Dodge Brothers' help. If they had lived they might have succeeded in putting Ford out of business
Please more videos on this topic! Also, Henry Ford reminds me a lot of Samuel Colt, who was really the father of American assembly line manufacturing. A man who had tremendous drive and talent, a brilliant technical mind, who took something that existed but was unrefined and obscure, and through innovation more in production than technical aspect, created something remarkable and world changing. Both Ford and Colt built personal industrial empires, both innovated in terms of their treatment of workers, attracted the best and brightest in the respective fields. The other similarity they share is that as time went on and their unprecedented became merely a fact of life to them, they began to stop innovating, fired or let go talented individuals who would become the leaders of the next generation in their industry. Both Ford and Colt's companies exist to this day as once truly monumental giants of their industry, but both are now mere shells of their former selves, trading on a name that means less and less every year, is no longer associated with unparalleled quality and efficiency, and in the state both comapnies currently exist in, stand no chance in hell of recapturing their former glory. Frankly I'd love to see you do a video on Sam Colt, or one of the early American firearm pioneers, who as much as Rockafeller, Morgan and Ford, represent that American dream and the greatest successes, excesses, and failures of 19th century American capitalism.
"... with any new technology, its going to be really expensive at first. But over time, those prices drop." iPhone 2G: $599!!! *11 years later* iPhone XS Max: $1499!!! (for 512 GB model) SO A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE IS CHEAPER!!??! Sorry but I'm a phone geek and I just had to
Jetgirl :D the phone is faster, better, more memorry and more things to do. But yeah apple is an overpriced piece of shit. Same with some clothes you can find like 5 shirts for 10 bucks in wallmart but people want that adidas.
Your analogy is somewhat flawed, a new phone with the same capabilities as the Apple 2G would be cheap, probably less than $599, throw in the inflation over 11 years and it would be way cheaper. This is quite similar to the underlying theme of this post that Henry Ford was an idiot and didn't understand the growing and changing auto market, by 1927 the model T Ford was an iPhone 2G in a iPhone XS market.
I did a history paper on Unions when I was in highschool and learned a little bit about Mr.Ford. He defiantly was one of those guys who, where it not for the competency of every one else around him, would have probably went bankrupt in the first year or 2.
Fun fact: : both Dodge brothers drank themselves to death within a short interval of one another. The second brother's death was ascribed to some other proximate cause (unrecalled), but he had been a heavy drinker and, faced with running the Dodge co. alone after the death of Brother 1, drank especially heavily in the weeks prior to his own death.
4:42 ...The Model... *_"Hey how's it going? Have you ever heard of a game called League of Legends?"_* That ad was a major cliffhanger. How am I gonna know what the car was??
Do a vid on car companies in japan like Toyota, Suzuki, Honda, and Nissan. All of these companies are extremely interesting and all contributed to WWII and are still the dominant forces in the auto market today, seeing that Toyota is the largest car company by far and the corolla has had over 7 million units in all of its years of production! Japanese cars and their history is just bonkers.
@@imdone8243 no one cares about fanboys they dont even know how internal combustion works yet they claim theyre car guys just because they think they have good taste in cars
you should do a continuation of the history of Ford (post Henry Ford/WW2 years); or a history of the automobile industry in the US in general (post WW2).Iwas definitely hoping this video would keep going.
Seecooty if Henry had let Edsel actually be in charge, the model t would have been replaced way earlier and cars would probably be different than they are today. Unfortunately we’ll never know what would have happened if that were the case...
Reason why Henry is so against change, is because he viewed his Model T as his best creation. Its his years of finding the right formula as the Universal Car, that he finally got it right in the Model T. He viewed it flawlessly as it was perfect. I think every innovator will stick to one product of theirs as his peak of ingenuity. Pretty much like how Steve Jobs viewed the Macintosh as one of the best of his creation at that time, and no such changes should be made. It is also his best creation that became the downfall of Model T's appeal and his reputation.
You can';t do a history of Henry Ford without talking about his book "The International Jew". Which he serialized in the Dearborn Independent (Ford owned newspaper) and published by Ford. Copies were given out with every Model T sold. The book was based on the phony "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which itself was based on a satire of Napoleon III. FYI a certain radical in Bavaria in the 1920s would plagiarize "The International Jew" for his own work called, "Mien Kampf". (Contains many "Americanisms" and expressions not part of German at the time). Read any good biography of H. Ford and you'll find out this information. Otherwise read Will Eisner's "The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion" Also when Ford died in 1947 it was one day after watching unreleased film footage of the Dachau concentration camp. He suffered and massive stroke during the viewing and died the next day.
oduffy1936- Bottom line, Henry Ford was a piece of SHIT! He enslaved over 2,000 Jewish kids and they were forced to work in his factories in Germany in the 1930s to make equipment to help Hitler kill people. By all accounts, he should have been charged with War Crimes when WW2 ended.
@@maryjeanjones7569 not really while he was anti semite he was not responsible for war crimes or the forced labourers hell ford lost control over plants in germany
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“VOID THE WARRANTY IF THE CAR IS PAINTED ANYTHING OTHER THAN BLACK” -Henry
Because other paint colors wouldn't hold up back then.
bleuflamenco still sounds like ford propaganda
The quote was you can have any color you want as long as it's black.
Well look what happened when the changed the colors.. we got the great depression. It's all etzels fault
"but it's painted very very very dark blue!"
"Ford has his security team shoot striking workers."
*Two minutes later*
"Ford identifies as a pacifist."
That's, uh, a serious disconnect.
Professor Politics well those workers are pretty passive now aren't they
The way people see ourselves is almost always different from the way we really are. It's not uncommon for people to fall back on some cognitive bias to justify actions that fall outside our perceived norms.
Ford was a nazi.
Joel Atwater pretty sure ford was a legitimate Nazi but I don’t remember where I saw that
@Joel Atwater Historians disagree...H Ford was an antisemite: ua-cam.com/video/7SVJBwb9RRg/v-deo.html
Edsel: “how about we build a car that isn’t basically a tractor?”
Henry: “TRACTORSSSSSSSSSS”
this made me laugh XD
Henry: "they can be any color you want."
Edsel: "are you feeling ok fo--"
Ford: "as long as it's black, or black."
Insert bob semple
@@alfonzom6 Lmao
You uh, forgot to mention one of the most notorious lawsuits involved with Ford: Dodge vs. Ford Motor Company. In it, the Dodge brother's accused Ford of spending the profit of the company on higher wages for the employees and lowering the price of goods, rather than maximizing profits for the shareholder's (as the Dodge brothers owned about 10% of the company, second only to Ford himself). The courts ruled in FAVOR of Dodge, setting the precedent. Oh, and then the Dodge bros used the money from the lawsuit to open their own competitor company. I get why Ford was upset.
Ford was an ass to the Dodge brothers. Mopar or No Car
The lawsuit happened in 1919 and Dodge was already in production for over 5 years by that time. You are correct about the other aspects of the lawsuit though as Ford wanted his workers happy and share in the American dream so that they could be better employees. Ford was selfish and conceited on some levels as far as not giving individual credit to those under him and a good employer to those who didn't desire recognition in that regard.
@@Turshin if you own Mopar, you might as well have no car.
@@Turshin sorry friend, ill stick with reliability and quality over the Mopar, thanks
turshin dodge is one of the shittiest car manufacturers on the planet. Won't be long until even chinese cars surpasses fiat chrysler in every way.
“You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
Henry Ford in a nutshell
Idk he was kinda a fucked up racist for a while before a lotta the bad stuff in this video
When was he a hero? He's always just been an opportunistic antisemite
@Y B you probably think your sibling is the greatest wife youll ever have
@@bonkboye8191 I see you're subbed to theneedledrop ua-cam.com/video/JG-UVv8cZ9s/v-deo.html&t=20
@@bonkboye8191 ford is literally credited for standardizing the assembly line in a practical way that people could copy which created a massive amount jobs and basically created the foundation of the middle class of america. he will forever be remembered for that whether or not you bitch about his views (which by the way were very common views back then, nearly all nations whether black white asian middle eastern etc disliked jews for centuries until some western nations could use it to their advantage during ww2 to demonize germany) you're using a modern point of view to complain about the general line of thinking 100 years ago, it makes you sound really stupid
The Success wasn't meant to go fast. It was a highwheeler. It was meant to drive through high water, mud, rocks, debris in fields. It was like an off road vehicle. Besides, it was considered dangerous to drive 20MPH at that time. Roads weren't smooth and clear. You don't judge a tractor by its top speed.
Now don't get me started on Edison, innovator until he wasn't...
Edison, innovator until things to claim as his own dried up.
Edison was an innovator until the very end. Innovator just means you are constantly trying new and inventive ideas. It doesn't have to mean those ideas are going to be successful. For example he tried to make an entire house from only concrete. The upside was that it was dirt cheap, the downside was that people don't like looking at walls of concrete or want to have other people look at it. He didn't allow for his homes to be plastered as it would add to the price and he seemed to like the look of concrete. He made over 10.000 of the concrete homes, almost none sold.
He even sold concrete furniture like chairs and couches.
He also tried to get into the car making business but unlike most he was insistent on an steam powered car. The thinking was that it would be cheaper and could run on any fuel available. The problem of course is that steam engine don't have anywhere near the power to weight ratio of internal combustion engines.
Henry stopped being an innovator because he stopped innovating and became very conservatist.
Edison was a litigator until the very end.
my R/C car is faster than that
@@MrMarinus18it exactly means it will be successful or an improvement. Literally
Just thank the car gods every day that the Model-T's control layout never caught on. You had three peddles on the floor and none of them were the throttle, that was on the steering wheel next to the spark advance. You had one peddle that was your reverse gear, one that would shift either between high and low gear, or low gear and neutral, depending on where the handbrake lever was, and the third peddle was a brake.
It was fine for cruising down the highway, but can you imagine how awkward it would be in heavy traffic.
Makes ya wonder when it finally started to make sense.
Alain Archambault top gear did a good segment on that
Ray Ceeya You’re absolutely correct! I owned a 1926 for 12 years or so but I found it easy and was driving it within 5 minutes of bing shown by the previous owner! They layout was the right pedal was the brake,the middle was reverse and the left was how you went, down all way was low,out was high and in between was neutral. I only drove it around town but my leg would get sore since I could only keep it in low.
I’ve driven one. Nothing at all is intuitive to us today. I stalled it several times due to the neutral position on the left pedal only being half way down. The system is easy for someone that had never driven though. The owner of the T model’s son was seven and could drive it without issue. He didn’t know that that pedal should have been a clutch and go all the way to the floor to stop.
Yeah the one nice thing about it is you can cruise down the road without even the pedals. So I guess Henry Ford invented cruise control too...
Really though, that's how a lot of old tractors work. When you're harvesting or plowing a field you just want to set your machine's speed and trundle off at the most efficient speed.
When I was a kid, my dad had old two cylinder John Deeres with hand throttles, hand clutches, and differential brakes. So to come to a full stop, you throttled back, with your right hand, disengaged the clutch, with the same hand, and then used both feet on both brakes. Left hand stayed on the steering wheel.
Also, if you were really good, you could change gears on the fly while turning by using your right hand on the clutch, your left hand on the snifter, and steering with your feet on the differential brakes. I never got that good.
Yes! Make that video on how the Car changed American culture =)
Yea that would be cool
You could argue it made the modern city viable, it was a huge deal
I'm willing to bet that the video is going to mention that Ford's success is what led to a decline in public transportation investment in the US.
Even the world culture
Yeah!
I didn’t know people actually thought Henry Ford invented the car.
Evidently Obama does.
That was pretty much what I was taught in school. I remember being shown a video in high school which said that, prior to the invention of the Model T, everyone got around in a horse and buggy.
Brittney Brisbin well that isn’t wrong, he definitely popularized it and made it affordable, but it was invented before he was even born if I remember correctly
@@jrcautomotive4319 I was going to edit my comment and say that I knew it wasn't technically wrong, because he did make the car more accessible to everyday working class people, but the program I saw did state that he invented the car rather than improved on and popularized it. Also, I just did a couple quick Google searches. Henry Ford was alive when the first car was invented. He was born in 1863, while the first car was invented in 1885.
Brittney Brisbin oh alright, thank you. I think I was confused between Ford and someone else.
I want a video about it
Agreed.
Yes, me too.
Seconded
Literally very one who likes this post wants a video about it.
Yes
Both channels in one day? Surely a sign of the end times.
psyxypher nah bro just means he has extra time now to make videos 😄
Where those alternate nations videos? Lol
Obviously something happened to him .............
PRAY OH YEE SINNER! THE END IS NIGH!
Henry Ford was not a saint. But he fought with his investors to get better pay for workers. At least in the beginning. He believed the workers should share in the profit and they should be able to afford a car. I don't see that by any company today.
Also he sold more cars by paying his workers better
@@susannebemis3311 Isn't that a good thing. You aren't alienated from what you made.
the main issue is most companies now a day have forgotten that , hell thats basically why detriot failed they fired the workers the main consumers
Biao Wang hard to buy anything when your community has all its jobs shipped overseas by greedy capitalists trying to make billions rather than just be happy with millions they already have.
Yingyanglord1 that’s because greed is blinding not innovative, we can see this in Henry’s own life with his fear of trying new ideas because he was afraid of losing profits. Causing him to wait too long and then lose out anyway because the Great Depression hit, but these sociopaths can’t ever take the blame themselves so instead he blamed his son’s good idea.
This video: 10 minutes long until it wasn't
I saw ya on ISP's Channel
I think not
Youre basically justin y at this point
Sam Patterson We thought guardians couldn’t die until they did
Sam Patterson was the new Justin Y until he wasn't.
So *Cadillac* (technically) originated from Henry *Ford?*
joe nodden technically yes
So did Dodge (technically).
no the Model A (the first one) was a dodge chassis and engine, Ford's "assembly" plant mated a purchased body to the Dodge sourced chassis, put wheels on it and it was complete. Without the Dodge brothers (or whoever would of made the engines, transmissions, chassis , steering, brakes and suspension had the Dodges not been around or declined to participate in Henry's little project) there would of been no Ford, but without all the money the Dodge Brothers made producing parts for Ford there wouldn't of been any Dodge cars either. I'm not to sure that Henry had much influence on what eventually started rolling out of the Cadillac plant.
Capt. Beak Dude you lost me with those random parenthesis.
This is why Henry Ford is known as the godfather of cars. Even though so many deny it..
You didn't mention that Ford revolutionized working hours, being the main drive in making working days 8hrs instead of 12-16hrs, while still earning the same.
As well as two day weekends.
muuubiee Yeah, he definitely wasn’t a good guy by our current standards, but he certainly was by then standards, and the improvements he made to their lives are still felt to this day
Wow it's been years since I've heard that bullshit - The actual story en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day
Gerard Kean Well, he was partially correct.
“On 5 January 1914, the Ford Motor Company took the radical step of doubling pay to $5 a day and cut shifts from nine hours to eight, moves that were not popular with rival companies, although seeing the increase in Ford's productivity, and a significant increase in profit margin (from $30 million to $60 million in two years), most soon followed suit.”, from that Wikipedia article that you cited.
@@GerardKean Nope you're wrong Ford inspired the eight hour work day. The government didn't really do shit.
"He might have some pro german sentiments"....c'mon he was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by the Nazis, the highest honor for a foreigner and the first American to receive one. Even though it's said that he despised nazi militarism he definitively had some sympathy for them (as many other people did back then before the war). Maybe you avoided mentioning Nazis for fear of demonetization but certainly his later years really show a lot about his character that the model T success usually overshadows
Not to mention that he sent Hitler 50k reichmarks every year on his birthday
I recall hearing that Hitler's own Jewish sentiments were inspired (at least in part) by Ford's thoughts.
UberDroid Hard to have sympathy for a system that methodically oppressed millions, killed Lord knows how many people, and tried to conquer Europe.
@@harmonlanager2670 what does comunism has to do with any of this?
Anybody with two brain cells would support Hitler against Stalin and Churchill back then.
“Ford became known for its quality and affordability”
What happened
they started making most of their cars in mexico and brazil
@@garyjohnson6858 as far I know the parts are made in other countries, those factories only assemble them into cars
@@qemdrive when you realise fix and repair mean the exact same thing, makes sense for someone like you though.
Globalism.
@@adrianvegas371 Found On Road Dead then
GM: “name your price”
Ford: *names his price*
GM: “no”
It took "The Cars that Made America" on the History Channel 3 hours to explain all this and you did it in 16 minutes. Man you're good!
And I would love to see a video on how the car changed American life! Please make one!
They also went into more detail.
The cars that made America was a really good documentary! It actually got me into cars! Then again it had a bunch of inaccurate information...
A random person who is too obsessed with old cars some not a lot though but some people just opposes since they don’t like the truth but I digress it’s a great documentary another good one would be the great cars series
Moose Chocolate yeah
Finally I find someone else who has a steam locomotive's front end for their profile picture!
Guys i think he and Alternate History hub are the same channel just saying
No, it's just a chinese knockoff.
You think Tyler and Tyler are the same person? Preposterous
OH MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES TO THE TRUTH. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS O WISE ONE
MrTohawk actually Cody is the guy who runs alternate history hub, he also was the one who originally made this channel
You mean to say that the self described second channel of alternate history hub is owned by the same guy from alternate history hub?! Get ooouuuuttt no way
"hard times with the public" uh not sure that's a strong enough label for opening fire on your own workers
Ok but why does your self insert look like Vladimir Lenin
Seize the means of auto production.
Was just thinking the same thing haha
Why does Vladimir Lenin looks like the insert? - Aristotle
You question the presence of Vladmir Lenin?
TO THE GULAG WITH THEEE!!!
It is.
so i'm not the only one
to wonder why that is.
Please expand on this subject. Honestly your channel is my substitute for what the history channel used to be
Had to scroll way too far to find this; thank you for posting it! We need more info on the impact that bringing cars to the masses had on infrastructure and society as a whole.
🚗
Maybe talk about and expand on what the Dodge brothers did for Ford and the innovations they made as well. They did a lot more than just help out
First car I ever changed an engine in,
was a 1929 Model A Victoria. Car was
owned by a good friend's parents. This
friend has a sister. Yep, named Victoria!
They also had a 1957 Ford Fliptop.
(Skyliner.)Changed main bearings
in THAT one, with the block in the car.
My friend had a 1962 Chevy Corvair,
a convertible model, that he turned
into a Spyder. (In 62, the turbo Spyder
model VINs ran consecutively with the
base models, so no one ever found out.)
THAT car was AMAZING, in that he
"blueprinted" the engine, beefed up the
turbo, and installed a 2 BBL Weber
sidedraft, with vacuum secondary,
controlled by a dash switch.
steve
The fact that Henry Ford took credit for his son's accomplishments and bullied him to the point to reducing Edsel Ford to tears, while Edsel was dying of cancer no less just shows what kind of black heart Henry Ford had. The only excuse Henry Ford gave was that he wanted his son to get mad, but he never did. What a goddamn troll...
I should also point at the realities of Ford's 5$ wage: the work required on the assembly line was absolutely exhausting, Ford had a worker turnover rate of 90%, and the high 5$ wage was just an attempt to hold onto their own workers from quitting on the first week.
People get paid for working harder?? Whaat?
IMO those workers should've burned his god damn factory to the ground. Nah just playing but yeah this is pretty sad but very interesting. Henry comes off like vito corleone in that he refuses to adapt to the changing times until it's too late but it ends with a game of thrones style wrestle for leadership of the company
@Wellrock Commentary Well, to Henry Ford's credit, when he held the meeting to discussing raising the wage, most of the Ford people in that meeting were absolutely outraged. You weren't supposed to be paid well for hard work, that went against Social Darwinism and Laissez-Faire Capitalism. 5$ a day for a bottom level grunt worker was completely scandalous at the time, so I will give Henry Ford credit for not succumbing to the peer pressure from the 1%.
IMO we should publicly torture and execute the lower class for being emotionally unstable and criminally inclined.
@@DISTurbedwaffle918 ???
What I learned from this video: Patent trolls have been around as long as cars have. Patent trolls have always been sleezy dinks.
Patent trolls have been around as long as patents have been around. Assholes are always there.
George B. Selden was a New York lawyer who literally drew a crude design for an internal-combustion powered car on a napkin at a restaurant. He cleaned it up, submitted it to he USPO, and got the patent, despite the fact that he had no working model to go with it (as was usually required, to demonstrate practicality of the idea). Through the years he threatened to sue anyone who infringed, and they backed down -- all except Ford. In the years between, the Selden Patent had almost as much of a restraining effect on American innovation in automobiles as those silly "man-waving-a-red-lantern", 5MPH speed limits, and horsepower taxes did in Britain.
They were around before patents! Caveman who discovered fire was forced to give away his wife and best mammoth rug to man who claim he created it. A lot of crap was thrown during the trial... probably literally.
@@breakingbacon658 Ya basically what I was saying except theirs a difference between a caveman discovering fire and someone filing a broad patent that can be applied to so much that millions of products can be under the patent.
If a caveman discovered fire it wouldn't matter if another caveman somehow communicated to him that he discovered it first.
And i know you were joking, but a lot of idiots aren't going to realize that and they'll think cavemen actually had trials.
Kyle Magaro the only trials they had were who could stare at ball of fire in sky the longest.
*friendship with son over* 😡
*now security department head my best friend* 😍
“It’s not a car it’s a Jew crushing machine”
-Henry Ford
Justin Y. Since when are you a communist?
Top 10 anime plot twists
Sold
Yes my dude 😂
I have several questions
So Henry Ford's Model T Was Very A FORD able.
**deep sigh**
That's actually where the word affordable comes from.[Citation Needed]
I remember there's an old Ford advert that says something like "Have you afFord lately".
Seriously?
Ford Model T
Boeing Model C
Um...uh...idk
I think it’s funny how Edsel was mainly focused on the styling of cars, and then the brand which the company created named after him failed in part due to consumers thinking they were ugly
Henry Ford reincarnated into Elon musk to seek revenge on all those gasoline cars that stole market share from him.
Funnily enough almost every piece of tech to do with computers uses a lithium battery when it isn't just a straight up PC.
@axel faure time to become the Amish then /s
the thing you're typing on is a type of computer
Aseani Miller faxx as they both lied to manipulate the stock market
Certainly shows in the hatred of unions.
To quote a wise Sith Lord "Do it".
Make the other video.
Went to the Ford Piquette Plant. I can’t believe how long the Model T went. They have some of the rarest models of Model Ts and they look the same. He milked the same car for 20 years. Just amazing, he just thought the car was that influential. Edit: They also have one of the last model Bs on Earth. The one they have was also the first one made.
Part of the milking because at the time model t was super extremely cheap easy to repair vehicle.
1908: 4 Cylinders = 20 horsepower.(model t)
2018: 4 Cylinders = 350 horsepower.(focus rs)
2128: 4 Cylinders = 1531 horsepower?
Generic Goat.
I doubt the internal combustion engine will be used much in the 2100’s.
Mistake Not 2100's? I doubt Internal Combustion engines in mass production cars will be around in 2050s
2018: 0 cylinders = 503 horsepower (Tesla Model S)
Depends on how big the cylinders are.
@Better than u I think there are initiatives in countries to completely transition over in a few decades
I was going to buy a car, but I couldn't A-Ford it
Upvote
Thank you for this. You should get a medal.
*couldnt*
Now thanks to Henry, the car is more afFORDable.
Lol your puns are legendary
Dude just so you know you could get a model T in any colour. The one colour thing is a myth as the dark blue/black models lasted better due to the treatment of the metal and they were seen as more desirable.
When Ford opened their first factory in the UK the only colour available was blue.
Sorry, not a myth. From 1914 to 1926, all Model T Fords were indeed painted black.
Lol, I got a Dodge Ram ad
Ahh, Apple. Keeping Henry Ford's tradition alive!
Also have you been watching RCR Car Stories and Dount Media Wheelhouse lately?
I see you're a man of culture as well
@@Turnip_ Well be happy; I had to do some grammar corrections after posting that comment....
You totally glossed over ford and hitler having life size portraits of each other in their offices.
Lol they did? Imagine having a picture of yourself in one of the most powerful leaders, despite being so bad. What a power move?
@@njfhighlights5355 its true.
Holy shiiiiii
KEK
Based
A runabout, i'll steal it! No one will ever know!
Hark
Nice reference.
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I'd enjoy a video on the impact of cars on the world. Specifically, the detail on it.
My grandma was alive, until she wasn't, amazing video btw
I would like to hear about America’s culture before and after the car
No Suburbia, no obesity, strong communities etc
Hey man I would love to see you doing how Henry Ford II brought the legendary Mustang and how he won with the GT 40 on Le Mans with the help of Carrol Shelby
Thank you for recognizing RE Olds as the inventor of the assembly line. People would argue endlessly with me whenever I had to correct them on that.
This is why I compare Elon Musk to Ford; Musk didn't invent the electric car, nor was he the first to propose or do spacecraft recovery, he simply made them more practical for common use.
I would have to agree I like that all teslas are at such a practical price and the fact that they make a very poor product in comparison to the competition in regards to finish,and having it built in such a way that if it catches fire its nearly impossible to put out because that really is what practicality is about
I say "more practical" since EVs before Tesla had these problems _and_ other issues that Teslas do take care of, such as the range and ascetic design. I know they still have a way to go in order to perfect their product.
You know , just like ford
Elon Musk also hates unions and fucks over his workers.
I still can't see how spending upwards of 70 grand just so you can pop to the shops and back without having to charge your car for seven days is practical, you'd burn a lot of petrol before making up the difference of that practical decision
What's with Vladimir Lenin?
Arjun Kaycee he was the 1st emperor of China and invented the lightbulb
@axel faure how dare you
miss-spell the dear leader's
name!
GULAG FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Kurwabobr00 Stop.
Arjun Kaycee Vladimir Lenin modeled his entire program for the Soviet Union's industrialization on US industrial practices - especially on Taylorism and Fordism (a sort of "Soviet Americanism")
@@SneedsterSpeedster what if i don't want to.
Definitely, would love to see the other videos going further into depth about the cars and Ford. I honestly doubt the Model T was the only major thing to help him launch the company. I remember seeing a show that mentioned how he bought a manufacturing plant, that was specifically built to help him mass produce cars (the Model T even, I believe), so, certainly seeing his innovations that lead to that, and many other things would be wonderful to have in future videos.
His dedication to making the Model T affordable was almost obsessive. It almost consumed him and destroyed the company. The passion or obsession he had to make the Model T as cheap as possible made the automobile available to people of modest to moderate means. This changed our country and society for both good and bad, probably in more ways then we'll ever know.
Definitely a video of how cars changed America would be good
00:49 what is that piss poor example of Texas you’ve got there?
Damn, i agree, Texas isnt ev hard to draw.
Lol
Cody, fix my state
votekyle3000 Me when it’s kinda cold
votekyle3000 what Texas deserves
"we want your company, name your price"
*names price*
"that's too high"
8:12 Jesus, the Dodge Brothers logo is actually kind of scary looking lmao
? What's wrong with the star of David?
You think that's scary. Look up the logo for the KRIT car
Why is Lenin narrating the video?
Flawless Binary why isn’t he
I was wondering the same thing lol
what better way to go than to have a commie jew narrate muh antisemite?
Maybe Tyler is lenin
@not Shane kid judaism is an ethnicity as well as a religion, how else do you think israel enforces their judaic ethnic citizenship requirement, just to be able to even so much as live there?
I like the pace of this channels uploads, its that perfect not to often to burn me out but not to infrequent to make me forget
Hey Tyler, just a quick comment to say that your commentary and pace has improved a lot and i find your work much more enjoyable than before.Thanks for all the knowledges.
Please mention the difficulties of building roads throughout one of the world’s largest nations in just a decade
My great-grandparents' first car in the 1920s, which my grandmother remembered, was a Ford Model T. My grandmother died in 2012. Things change!
i never thought of Ford as an inventor, i've always thought of him as an innovator.
C&J Tech- I have only ever thought of him as a War Criminal!
@@maryjeanjones7569 and genuine human POS
Huh, that was an interesting video. As a German I never thought of Ford as father of the car (that is Benz in my mind) or the father of the assembly line (while it is an older sentiment the best expression of it I saw thus far was by Adam Smith; while (IIRC) he doesn't mention production at physical assembly lines they began to crop up in his time and incorporating those was only logical). I always thought of him as one of the figures that didn't innovate, but improve. More specialisation in the assembly line (while not reaching the levels of Smith's famous pin, which was truly insane) and getting production to a large scale, using interchangeable parts to ease logistics and starting the five dollar day to solve the problem of workers going numb, which was already mentioned in Wealth of Nations.
We care a lot! Keep the videos coming, man! They're great, love from Panama!
And many think patent trolls are a new thing...
A LOT of opinion presented as fact in this video.
*Should GM have bought Ford at the price demanded?* Maybe not. If you overspend on purchasing competing companies you create a very dangerous incentive. Anyone who wants to make a quick buck will start a competing company and pretty soon you run out of money to purchase them and you're swamped with new competing companies. It's not clear that GM could've known how successful Ford would be, and even if they could, it's not clear that purchasing it at an inflated price would've helped them in the end. Remember, GM survived, and that's not a sure thing for any company. Things could've gone much worse.
*Was Henry Ford wrong to blame the over-designed model A and not the depression for the lack of sales?* Maybe. While the depression would obviously have hit hard either way, the more utilitarian design of the previous model would've been better suited for the tighter economic conditions.
There's plenty more but I'll be surprised if people read this much so I'll leave it there.
If GM bought Ford... the American automotive industry might have dissappeared. Monopoly would lead to technological stagnation, and American market could have been overrun by Italians and Germans long before the Japanese came into view. Then again... American cars were always a few steps behind European ones, perhaps some import tax I don't know of was in place.
Sure, but it was pretty obvious that "economic design" wasn't as hugely popular as it was before the depression
The Model T was a technological and stylistic dead-end, which should have been terminated with the end of the deep post-WWI recession in 1923, at which time Ford was giving them away for as low as $250 -- pricing that was below cost. The T had no potential in the Depression years, which were actually times of great technical and stylistic innovation in automobiles; the public had moved on and expected way more than what the T could offer. Evidence: the Durant Star, a slightly upmarket T clone, enjoyed good sales through the mid-20s, but demand collapsed by 1928. It was not revived later, whereas it should have been if your "Depression = poverty = erosion of expectations/willingness to settle" assumption were correct. In fact, Depression buyers were MORE demanding as to the performance and features found in their cars, not less; anyone with free cash in a depressed economy can afford to be.
Insider trading !!
The chief designer of the Ford Model T was a Hungarian engineer called József Galamb. When he visited back to Hungary, he was invited to dine with the Admiral Miklós Horthy, Regent of Hungary (the head of state in the absence of a monarch) and he asked if Galamb could help his elder son to get an internship at Ford. He responded: "Only if he has the best school grades." He indeed had, as he was a very talented young man, so he was allowed to travel to America.
István Horthy soon began at Ford as a simple factory worker and soon worked himself up to become an engineer. When he returned to Hungary he became a chief engineer at the Royal Hungarian Railways and oversaw the design process of one of the most successful steam engines ever, the MÁV Model 424 "Bivaly" (Bison). He even managed to beat the British in a tender and sell this engine to the Indian railways. Unfortunately the outbreak of WW2 prevented the actual delivery. The 424 was pretty much the Model T of railway locomotives. Horthy's experience at Ford helped the Hungarian railway industry to thrive, to the point that MÁV produced a super fast steam engine, Model 242 "Nurmi" (nicknamed after a Finnish olympic runner) which was only slightly less powerful than the fastest one ever, the British "Mallard".
He served as a fighter pilot in the war, as a 1st Lt. of the Royal Air Force. He met a sad and early demise when he crashed with a Hungarian-built Re-2000 "Héja" (Kestrel) fighter on the Eastern front. If that never happened, Hungary's history would've probably taken somewhat different turns.
Fun fact my sister was writting a book that mentioned the model T. After pointing out it wasn't invented yet I spent five hours in the dead of night finding the appropriate model for her. Listening to the audio book there are times when the car type switches and that is my fault.
What car did you two settle on?
The dodge brothers were the investors. Thats right Ford fan boys, there would be no Ford without Dodge......Mopar or no car.
it sounds like there would of still been a ford without the dodge brothers, they where just two of the many investors, the only reason they where the only ones named is because of the importance of Dodge becoming a car manufacturing company separate from ford.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID!!!!! 🤬🤬 MOPAR OR NOOOOO CAAAARRRR!!!!!! (angry whinny voice)
yeah okay buddy you just keep telling yourself that.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf i was joking bro. My first 3 vehicles were Fords. Now i work for FCA
At least Ford makes good cars
The Ford model T- in all of the best colors, and had so many trim options it was simply the most astonishing car of this time.
I'm down for "how the car changed america"
6:36 - you reeeeally downplayed that part. Employee turnover was a huge problem for automotive industry at that time, and Ford's rate was revolutionary and considered insane by many of his competitors, who prophesied he would soon get out of business due to it (competitors who not long after followed his exaple, seeing how crazy successful it was). Also, there were some conditions one had to meet to get it, some of them pretty... interesting (for example, you had to live an "American lifestyle").
Really cool video tho, I learned a lot new.
You are a better teacher than my history teacher.
Living for the background music!
Very interesting case. A lot of peopletalk about VHS vs Betamax struggling to be the standard, and people like to claim Betamax was technically superior... not exactly. It had a superior picture quality, but they refused to increase the play time for years, and had an inconsistent user experience, adding and removing features on their VCR models, among other blunders. The VHS had what customers wanted - good enough quality, long play time, standard features in many models. The Model T was similar - not necessarily pretty, but not expensive, and powerful enough to make the purchase worthwhile... The right balance for it to take off, and Ford is remembered as the father of the car.
Video 2000 was even better. I know, when i was little kid, we had one of those before we had to get VHS. I was not happy :(
Even today, Ford's cars aren't the cheapest, the most interesting, or the best. A life long legacy fulfilled!
What if alaska and north east asia was still connected
Wrong channel mate, this is knowledgeHub. What you are seeking is Alternatehistoryhub.
@@tristanovic2-531 yeah but lately, AHH hasn't been his "alternate" side... just today he posted a video about Paraguay that didn't have no alternate time line explanation
@@tristanovic2-531 nothing
Littarly least important part of world
@@H-to-O north eastern Siberia
I would love to see a video on how the commercially affordable automobile changed the nation's dynamics. That said, I would also like to see a video addressing why the US has been so adamant about hindering the development of public transit in its own borders. Why is it the US has been so deadset on building its infrastructure around the personal automobile for so long? Why has it been only in the past decade or so that some US cities have decided to redesign themselves around pedestrians and public transit? Why is it taking the US so long to make things convenient for people who don't have immediate access to some kind of automobile or live in sparesly populated areas?
I watched the History Channel special about the American Auto industry and took great pleasure in the fact Mr. Henry wouldn't have made his Model-T without the Dodge Brothers' help. If they had lived they might have succeeded in putting Ford out of business
Please more videos on this topic!
Also,
Henry Ford reminds me a lot of Samuel Colt, who was really the father of American assembly line manufacturing. A man who had tremendous drive and talent, a brilliant technical mind, who took something that existed but was unrefined and obscure, and through innovation more in production than technical aspect, created something remarkable and world changing. Both Ford and Colt built personal industrial empires, both innovated in terms of their treatment of workers, attracted the best and brightest in the respective fields. The other similarity they share is that as time went on and their unprecedented became merely a fact of life to them, they began to stop innovating, fired or let go talented individuals who would become the leaders of the next generation in their industry. Both Ford and Colt's companies exist to this day as once truly monumental giants of their industry, but both are now mere shells of their former selves, trading on a name that means less and less every year, is no longer associated with unparalleled quality and efficiency, and in the state both comapnies currently exist in, stand no chance in hell of recapturing their former glory.
Frankly I'd love to see you do a video on Sam Colt, or one of the early American firearm pioneers, who as much as Rockafeller, Morgan and Ford, represent that American dream and the greatest successes, excesses, and failures of 19th century American capitalism.
"... with any new technology, its going to be really expensive at first. But over time, those prices drop."
iPhone 2G: $599!!!
*11 years later*
iPhone XS Max: $1499!!! (for 512 GB model)
SO A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE IS CHEAPER!!??!
Sorry but I'm a phone geek and I just had to
That's just Apple being a greedy, piece of shit company.
Jetgirl :D the phone is faster, better, more memorry and more things to do. But yeah apple is an overpriced piece of shit. Same with some clothes you can find like 5 shirts for 10 bucks in wallmart but people want that adidas.
Your analogy is somewhat flawed, a new phone with the same capabilities as the Apple 2G would be cheap, probably less than $599, throw in the inflation over 11 years and it would be way cheaper. This is quite similar to the underlying theme of this post that Henry Ford was an idiot and didn't understand the growing and changing auto market, by 1927 the model T Ford was an iPhone 2G in a iPhone XS market.
The parts are cheaper. Appletards are just have more money than sense.
LMAO
This was a great video! Thanks for uploading this!
I did a history paper on Unions when I was in highschool and learned a little bit about Mr.Ford. He defiantly was one of those guys who, where it not for the competency of every one else around him, would have probably went bankrupt in the first year or 2.
Absolute facts. He took full advantage of them for that too
Let's see that video about how cars impacted America next!
Fun fact: : both Dodge brothers drank themselves to death within a short interval of one another. The second brother's death was ascribed to some other proximate cause (unrecalled), but he had been a heavy drinker and, faced with running the Dodge co. alone after the death of Brother 1, drank especially heavily in the weeks prior to his own death.
4:42 ...The Model... *_"Hey how's it going? Have you ever heard of a game called League of Legends?"_*
That ad was a major cliffhanger. How am I gonna know what the car was??
I wish Oldsmobile and Pontiac came back :(
We all do
Nero Octurianous I wish they would come back too! I also wish mercury would come back 😭😭😭
A random person who is too obsessed with old cars yes mercury too!
Nero Octurianous Somebody needs to bring them back!
Vico Mc Din Omg yes Hudson as well!!!
6:50, yes please! I would like a video about the improvements for the "every man"
3:48 “The now long defunct Success” ironic
Do a vid on car companies in japan like Toyota, Suzuki, Honda, and Nissan. All of these companies are extremely interesting and all contributed to WWII and are still the dominant forces in the auto market today, seeing that Toyota is the largest car company by far and the corolla has had over 7 million units in all of its years of production! Japanese cars and their history is just bonkers.
Two dislikes, I wonder what immortal pair of car creators that could be...
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Or, might those two dislikes be from people who know what a terrible man Henry Ford was, and how this video fails to convey that?
1921 everyone thinks cars is art
2019... People only drive cars as transport and thinks cars are transport
Not car fanboys. Pfft. Too single minded
@@imdone8243 no one cares about fanboys they dont even know how internal combustion works yet they claim theyre car guys just because they think they have good taste in cars
you should do a continuation of the history of Ford (post Henry Ford/WW2 years); or a history of the automobile industry in the US in general (post WW2).Iwas definitely hoping this video would keep going.
I'd definitely be down to learn how the car changed American society.
Why do you keep using your Lenin sprite for everything it makes me think that there is gonna be a communist revolution there.
You say that as if it’s a bad thing
Wish those betas would rise up already so we could shoot them down, Communists are so pathetic.
@@lucky7s927 why are you advocating for the shooting of people that you consider inferior?
@@peneficial1643 Communists aren't people lol.
it's supposed to be him, it just looks like Lenin
This story is amazing. There were a lot of things I thought I knew that were completely wrong. Henry Ford needs a bio pic.
I wish Henry listened to Edsol
Seecooty if Henry had let Edsel actually be in charge, the model t would have been replaced way earlier and cars would probably be different than they are today. Unfortunately we’ll never know what would have happened if that were the case...
Reason why Henry is so against change, is because he viewed his Model T as his best creation. Its his years of finding the right formula as the Universal Car, that he finally got it right in the Model T. He viewed it flawlessly as it was perfect. I think every innovator will stick to one product of theirs as his peak of ingenuity. Pretty much like how Steve Jobs viewed the Macintosh as one of the best of his creation at that time, and no such changes should be made. It is also his best creation that became the downfall of Model T's appeal and his reputation.
Reminds me of Apple, in every way....
Except Steve Jobs wasn't a Nazi sympathizer
I have to do an essay on henry ford, so thanks for this!
He was a fooking legend!
More like a tyrant
coming out the day before my 1920s America test in History
what a time to be alive
till this day that old model T style looks beautiful I'd take one today with modern technology
And
War.
You can';t do a history of Henry Ford without talking about his book "The International Jew". Which he serialized in the Dearborn Independent (Ford owned newspaper) and published by Ford. Copies were given out with every Model T sold. The book was based on the phony "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which itself was based on a satire of Napoleon III. FYI a certain radical in Bavaria in the 1920s would plagiarize "The International Jew" for his own work called, "Mien Kampf". (Contains many "Americanisms" and expressions not part of German at the time). Read any good biography of H. Ford and you'll find out this information. Otherwise read Will Eisner's "The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion" Also when Ford died in 1947 it was one day after watching unreleased film footage of the Dachau concentration camp. He suffered and massive stroke during the viewing and died the next day.
oduffy1936- Bottom line, Henry Ford was a piece of SHIT! He enslaved over 2,000 Jewish kids and they were forced to work in his factories in Germany in the 1930s to make equipment to help Hitler kill people. By all accounts, he should have been charged with War Crimes when WW2 ended.
@@maryjeanjones7569 not really while he was anti semite he was not responsible for war crimes or the forced labourers hell ford lost control over plants in germany
Very Semitic , last was big money, fed legal reserve, fed ex, many heckle island, Alex jokes, bring down and rob, dishonest money, money name money, wood row Wilson.
@@truthsocialmedia Mental health issues, or is it early onset alzheimer's disease?