Disney's Star Wars Is Embarrassing
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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Star Wars. Got the lightsabers, the space wizards, pretty cool stuff. Honestly, I think most people kinda “get” Star Wars. Except for the people that own Star Wars, they have no idea what they’re doing. Over the past decade this brand, that was at one point pretty much the biggest “thing” on the planet, has now become an embarrassing disaster.
It takes a special level of incompetence to achieve this, and while I’m not the first to tackle this topic (and certainly won’t be the last), I feel like 2024 has been a uniquely awful year for Star Wars.
A big budget show, the acolyte got canceled before a second season amongst awful user reviews and low ratings.
Star Wars Outlaws was a flop, to a degree where it’s caused some investors to question whether the game’s publisher Ubisoft should even stay as a public company.
And I just kinda wanted to talk about all of this.
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Can we make the people who are responsible for Star Wars to take a Skillshare course to not make Star Wars suck?
If only the original Mosfilm studios themselves came back from the dead to aquire the star wars franchise, massive communist film sets filled with more of those live action models from lucasfilms will be a wonderful marvel to behold.
I'd argue they killed it by letting a trio of directors create a trilogy of movies without them apparently ever even talking to each other, much less figuring out a coherent plan for how their movies would fit together... So basically, The Last Jedi killed Star Wars, and Rise of Skywalker was the coffin it was buried in.
Trio?
@@jakubolszewski8284 It was originally planned to be 3 different directors.
@@Marconius6 Oh, didnt know, thanks.
Honestly, the force awakens set a horrible foundation for it all to begin with.
they could've gone so many directions with the sequel stories. They could've focused on the Imperial Remnant and told a story from their POV, they couldve introduced the Yuuzah Vong, or focused on rebuilding the Jedi, but no, those nitwits decided to just make a much much worse version of the OT with an empire clone.
The worst part? As Andor shows, you don't even need to make a show feel particularly like Star Wars for people to see it. You don't need the Force. Or jedi. Or lightsabers. Or Tatooine. Or The Millenium Falcon. Or Han Solo. You can make a Star Wars show that lacks all of that, and people will still want to watch it. All you need is for it to be... good.
Disney hasn't been in the 'good' business for a long while now.
All you need is $250million and tony gillroy
@@Samsonfs you need to have a story to tell.
Based. It was the first time in like 15 years I really enjoyed any kind of Star Wars media and can't wait for S2
That works against Andor as being as a STAR WARS show. Andor is almost like a syfy original series, rather than something made by Lucasfilm!
to quote some hack frauds: "how does it feel to see all your favorite franchises crash down and burn?"
"Feels great..."
@@ForgottenHonor0yeah, id much rather just have them die instead of being milked for eternity
AT-ST! AT-ST!
We’ll always have stand alone films. Always.
IT BROKE NEW GROUNDDDDDD!
Putting a chunk of The Mandalorian plot in the impressively terrible Boba Fett show was something it never bounced back from. I still don't understand why they did that.
Yep I really hate that everything has to be part of a larger multiverse. It’s exhausting
It didn’t make any sense. Especially as someone who didn’t watch Mandolorian, I was left confused and didn’t know who half the characters were
The only thing Disney knows how to do is overexpose something until we get sick of it. They are like Sid in Toy Story breaking their toys
Star wars: the ✓accolade ©®™
Disney is Mr. Krabs. The fans are Spongebob. Star Wars is the Krabby Patty.
Speaking of which, who's excited for Toy Story 5?
It's more than embarrassing, it's depressing that out of all the ways they could have gone, with all the resources and lore at their disposal, they just threw it out. At least it's easy to ignore Disney SW, I kept my books and comics.
There were really good Star Wars mobile games that Disney killed just to maintain EA exclusivity.
Star Wars: Uprising was excellent. Disney murdered it.
KotOR 1 and 2 are on mobile. Apparently you can even install the TSLRCM for 2
The problem with Solo wasn't lacking Ford. Fans simply wanted something authentic which Disney is incapable of doing. Getting an actor that looks like young Ford would have helped (there was one guy that people wanted) but the main issue is that it didn't feel like Star Wars. This is the problem with all of Disney's stuff. It simply doesn't feel like Star Wars.
It feels less like Star Wars than fan films. This goes deeper than a lack of soul.
Not entirely true about actors having to look like the older actors that came before them. Star Trek 2009 had some actors that looked totally different but could still act the part and that was good enough. It's all in the story and script.
It's also how there was so much character assassination and things that didn't need explaining getting a backstory.
no soul might be better than a different soul. nobody wants to see their loved ones demonically possessed.
The problem with Solo was the name. If his name was Franz Alone flying the Century Hawk with his Trandoshan pal Gnawsh people would have loved it.
Pre-Disney Star Wars is art. Disney Star Wars is content.
The Last Jedi's reception was very split among fans, but somehow Disney managed to follow it up with a movie that *everyone* hated.
Even when it came out I thought it was just okay at best, but I was still interested in seeing where it would go. After 8? I wanted to see how they'd mess it up again
As incompetent as TLJ was, it at least tried to be fresh and original. TROS spent half its runtime trying to retcon away the previous film and the other half directly ripping off ROTJ. The result was a film that made the rest of the trilogy pointless.
I consider The Last Jedi the beginning of the end. That movie just did so much wrong with the brand. It set the stage for all that has come.
@@captainlinebacker8894 It didn't though, basically EVERYTHING that TLJ did, had already been done better by someone else. Most pointedly KotOR 2. Which has tended to my main criticism of Disney crap for a while now. Derivative and worse of something done under Lucas's ownership, Thrawn being the single most offensive, but re-doing Dark Empire (which people thought was shit at the time) for TRoS, was actually baffling, and they still somehow made it worse. I guess Dark Empire did add some cool stuff and the art was good.
I will never forgive Star Wars for taking an excellent non-Jedi story and ruining it with annoying Jedi. It was so nice to see an average guy (as average as you can be in such a dangerous universe).
If you haven't yet, watch Andor. It has almost nothing at all to do with Jedi and is one of the only good things disney has put out.
Star Wars died when disney started viewing it as a means for furthering their profit margins and not as a story held dear to people since childhood. So basically, it died when they bought it.
Except the person they put in charge isn't even interested in profit, only pushing her agenda and false progressivism.
@@ForgottenHonor0oooooh scary woke
I don't they want to gire good writers because it cost more money and gaming company that have good reputation cost more so it ubisoft then
This is the same Star Wars that released an action figure of Yak Face.
Agreed. I remember seeing their first star wars movie, getting extreme cringe and I stopped giving a shit right then ans there
*The Last Jedi should have made more than The Force Awakens.*
*The Han Solo movie should have broken even.*
*The Rise of Skywalker should have made two billion dollars.*
*The Boba Fett show should have been a major success.*
*Yet here we are.*
Andor was fairly good
@@fot6771 Except almost nobody watched it.
Andor was good but one show doesn't balance the budget...@@fot6771
@@ForgottenHonor0 sounds like a marketing failiure because it's by far the best thing Disney's made with star wars
@@fot6771It's more a franchise failure. Disney Star Wars has such a bad track record that people (justifiably) assume that new Star Wars shows are bad
*You need another entire trilogy to restore the reputation of Star Wars.*
Pfft. Good LUCK.
The only way they could do that if they get Knights of the Old Republic right or redo the Sequel Trilogy with Jacen and Jaina
at this point you could put a literal rock in charge of star wars and it would outperform kathleen kenedy
Chewbacca could direct it and have the whole movie in Wookie and I'd still watch it.
I vote to put anyone aside from Tyler in charge (he likes the Christmas special lol)
@@MacUser2-il2cx You know, that would make for an actually cool and creative movie premise. But it'd take an actual artist to make it work.
The biggest misstep with post-2014 _Star Wars_ was not bad writing, but Lucasfilm's employees actively bullying and vilifying fans who criticized said bad writing. Because Disney itself is more interested in the brand making a profit than how it goes about doing so, they didn't dole out any punishment, resulting in the general public getting the idea in their minds that it's perfectly fine to bully _Star Wars_ fans, regardless of what their school taught them about not bullying others.
This is similar to what happened with Halo as well.
*Reject Disney canon.*
*Embrace the Star Wars Expanded Universe.*
So much more detail, so much more passion, so much more effort and talent.
Lucas never considered the expanded universe cannon
@@somethingsomething9008 I fail to see why that’s my problem.
@@somethingsomething9008Lucas also wanted Starkiller to be "Darth Icky". George was far better than Disney, but there's a reason a lot of people disregarded his canon opinions pre-Disney
There's plenty of comic books, audio dramas, novels, and video games. Half of them are based on the OT, the others are based on the prequels. There's something for everyone and most of it feels canon to the films even if they aren't.
Sorry dude, I got two words for ya. "Yuuzhan Vong"
The EU was always.. not great.
Mfw the best piece of Star Wars media from Disney (Andor) has no mention of the Force in it,
Its almost as if the Jedi and Sith shouldn't be the main focus of everything.
Yes and no. There's an entire series of spin offs about the Rebel pilots that have nothing to do with Jedi or Sith. But Disney has no idea how to do either Star Wars or the Jedi and Sith. It's gotta be the suits making these decisions.
Rogue One largely didn't really have Jedi and Sith in it as well. I am obviously ignoring the ending part with Vader.
Right??? I was never a huge Star Wars movie fan as a kid (was just the original and prequels at the time) but I looooooovvveedd those faux educational lore books that talked about different worlds and cultures in the universe, biology of different alien species or monsters, all that fun stuff. Ofc they mentioned the force and jedi/sith here and there but it was absolutely not the main focus. That sense of wonder and adventure and strangeness is what I enjoyed, and you could do SO much with that. But, they'd need to allow creatives who love the universe to take risks and they can't be having that!
@@kosmosXcannon Rogue One was my favorite out of the Disney movies and even that one had some problems I didn't like.
I remember reading somewhere that it was originally going to be a gritty war movie but with a star Wars skin suit and I really liked that idea. It makes sense, right? Regardless, they had to tone down the grit because R movies don't sell as much. Yet, they'll make The Force a female entity, and a lesbian at that. I always interpreted the force as a purely neutral entity that doesn't have a clear will, but anyone sensitive to it whether they're good or evil could wield it. It's that over explaining again.
Yeah but get ready, cause as those RedLettermedia hack frauds predicted, Luthen os gonna be revealed as a hidden fallen Jedi all along
Disney star wars being bad? they bought the thing because nerds still had faith, but it was a means to another toy end
About five years ago, they promised me a Rogue Squadron movie. Then they killed it .
30 years ago I read a book about Thrawn. They have yet to make a movie with him in it.
Fuck shows with 6 expisode seasons that should have been movies.
Not only did they *not* make a movie with Thrawn, they retconned his character into something unrecognizable. They should have never given him to the plot writers of Rebels.
@@WafflePlaneRC Rebels Thrawn was the archetype twirling mustash bad-guy for evil sake. You aren't wrong at all, book Thrawn would never hurt is own troops to prove a point.
For all these long running franchises, it isn't that the original stuff was perfect and flawless. We know that. It's that the people making it cared about the fans and the legacy they were creating and/or following, so they worked to make their stories worthy.
The new people making content for these IPs seem to have contempt for the fans and legacy of the property. They only care about themselves and putting out their personal stories, whether it fits or not.
Exactly! I never claimed TNG was perfect or Voyager. I never doubted though that those behind it loved the property. They slipped but also didn't blame the fans for issues.
The one profitable thing that Disney did with Star Wars is Grogu AKA Baby Yoda. Since there's a Mandalorian movie coming up soon, that also means Grogu returns too and there will be tons and tons of ads, food products, clothes, toys, and other merchandise. You thought there was a lot of Baby Yoda stuff before? Buddy you ain't seen nothing yet!
It’s literally all they have left that not everyone hates.
Star wars died the day Disney got the rights to it. Mystery solved.
It’s so refreshing to hear someone talk about how shitty this franchise is doing without having to resort to the Anti-Woke BS.
dude woke BS is why we are where we are
I with you there
Star Wars died when they didn't give the entire franchise over to Genndy Tartakovsky.
He did Samurai Jack and Dexters Lab
@@TylerAStinson And the animated Clone Wars tv series that bridged Star Wars episodes 2 and 3.
On the plus side, the Holiday Special doesn't seem nearly as bad anymore, especially with the Rifftrax commentary.
Look up the recent Concord interviews about "Toxic Positivity" in the production.
That's what's happening to a lot of Hollywood.
Disney killed Star Wars right at Force Awakens. That is the truth. People simply started to notice the decay a bit later.
And the casuals, the people who don't care and just turn their brain off never realized it was dead until they subconsciously lacked the will to watch more of one of their series.
The force awakens is a good movie-it’s fun, casual, and safe-but people ignore how blatantly episode 7 rehashed the original trilogy. Down to the character archetypes. I wouldn’t even call it nostalgia bate; it’s just plagiarism. While that started the sequel trilogy in a fine spot, it would have fallen apart by the end. Audiences need to be invested in the new characters, not in how similar they are to the old.
Like to blatantly redo the whole Death Star but as a planet? To immediately destroy the new republic so it returns to a ragtag group of rebels?
@@april3534
No it isn't. I was there sitting in the theatre horrified seeing a rehashed Death Star with 5 beams.
Finn was a stormtrooper who was mourning the death of his comrade and then 5 minutes later blasting the hell out of them and cheering.
Its irredeemable trash, its just that people turned their brains off.
Star Wars died when JarJar and baby Darth Vader went on screen
@@april3534 I would say Force Awakens is just passable. Nothing good or bad, because it was too safe, but passable. Could say it had cracks showing back then. It was the Last Jedi that blewup those cracks. I did like Rogue One, probably the last good movie Star Wars had put out.
Star Wars, halo, Game of Thrones, Alien and Lord of the rings have given every Nerd trust issues.
If I get even a whiff of them using the word 'diversity' to describe the show rather than the show itself I immediately check out.
Don’t think so much, Husk. Just consume the ever flowing stream of content and acquire endless piles of plushies and LEGOs and ignore the entire concept of quality.
The legos aren’t even good or cool looking anymore
Not to mention that they’ve been getting shrinkflated
Apathetic is correct. I logged out of D+ last month and I wasn't even the one paying for it. It's not just Star Wars but Disney content in general.
I can't believe how they messed this up. They literally had hundreds of really good expanded universe books to pull from. They could have easily adapted many of those into movies or show. Instead they threw it all out. What a waste
I thank Disney everyday for ruining Star Wars cause I think this is why there is so much more interest in Warhammer 40k universe nowadays.
Popularity and money will ruin 40K as well, some will say this already has begun.
"If I don't like it then no one should" I agree that Warhammer is more interesting that doesn't mean I hope star wars will die ( even if Dysney seem to really try to kill it )
I asked Lucasfilms to watch my stuff and when I came back it was Chinese stock
@@JeffBilkinsi think the same as you, it may have already started, but there is a difference in the way the franchise is handled, unless games workshop start pushing strict guidelines in the development of games and books i dont see many issues for a long time
@@JeffBilkins My guy, GW was already a greedy corporation tabletop wise all the way back before the woke/antiwoke cycle. What makes GW and warhammer in general much more difficult to be wokified, is because the main profit doesn't come from books, or games, but table top in which you literally play with small plastic miniatures with dice.
You hit the nail on the head with the apathy point. Sadly, with this generation of Star Wars, new fans will be indifferent to this abysmal content and the franchise will either have a slow death, or a transform into something unrecognizable to classic Star Wars even worse than it currently is.
The porg comment got me good. They were cute for what they were. The rest of the terrible parts of that movie far outweighed the mild annoyance of porgs.
The new creatures were the only thing I liked about the sequels, that's what I wanted more of from new Star Wars.
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 That and the music were essentially they only things they didn't make worse.
Finally someone whose saying this without trying to push a political message
That's the other big problem that turns me off from starwars is the constant culture war that surrounds it. It's insufferable and exhausting. The content actually being bad is just the back breaker.
Yoda colored milk
@@DammitBobbythat. Exactly that. Back in 2018 I was all on the hate wagon of the woke last Jedi.. now that I’ve grown older I see how tiring it is.
I’ve become more and more a casual enjoyer. I unsubscribed from a lot of SW youtube channels who kept pushing right or left political messages through Star Wars. I’m only subscribed to SW UA-cam channels who explain lore/stories. Stupendous wave, lore masters etc. All the others are too exhausting.
@@xsXRevanXsx stupendous wave is my personal favorite.
@@DammitBobby his content is good! Same goes for lore masters (and a lesser extent Star Wars explained but after what came out about him, I’m not trying to watch him anymore). I used to be an avid Star Wars theory fan, I was in full support when he released his film… but my god his content is so horrible now.
Where are the theories? Where are the lore videos? Stuff that I subscribed for? When I try to look for a movie review or the like I also don’t go to his channel anymore or someone like the critical drinker.
I might not agree with the whole left politics but the constant “they are ruining Star Wars because A, B, C woke blah blah” is so incredibly tiring.
🎶The power of ONE (season)
The power of TWO (people actually watching)
The power of CAAAANCEEEELEEED 🎵
This is magnificent 😂
The failure of Amandla
The failure of Kathleen
The failure of Leslyeeeeeeee
At least Star Trek has Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks
Which are nostalgia bait in different forms.
@@ANDREALEONE95 Nostalgia bait is fine if it's also good.
They also have a pretty funny parody show, the Orville, it's obviously not an official Star Trek product but at least the creators of that show really love Star Trek and want to make something good.
I'm assuming that was sarcasm haha.
Lower Deck is genuinely good. Especially after season 1.
One thing everyone can agree on is attacking fans directly and actually literally telling them to stop watching was not doing Disney Star Wars any favors.
I noticed this trend with The Last Jedi, and it got worse from there.
blaming/attacking fans was part of the woke trend in general.
Star Wars needs to be taken away from Disney
It's impressive how Disney killed star wars and marvel at the same time
marvel should have ended after endgame
@@zymosan99there is no war in ba sing se and there is no mcu after endgame.
Star Wars has been one of the big pillars of my childhood. I especially got into it around the time the prequels released and watched the hell out of Episode 3 and Clone Wars. I still remember the hype I felt when the first Battlefront reboot released and Episode 7 got into the cinemas and I really miss that feeling. It's been years since I've been somehow excited about Star Wars and I really wish for a game or show with a world and story that I can lose myself in again. There has been nothing that ignited that spark again for about 7 years now for me. It's a damn shame, really
Im still baffled that they bought a billion dollar franchise and didnt even bother to flesh out what was going to happen in the new trilogy before they made the movies
People didn’t hate “Solo” because Harrison Ford wasn’t in it, they hated it because it took a huge steaming dump on the character.
Reshooting the movie twice didn't help either.
Seriously how hard would it have been to have Solo join the imperial academy and not the damn army? He's know for his piloting skills.
Disney buys Star Wars, immediately tells the book portion of the fan base that they hate them and they should leave.
Makes The Last Jedi and tells the original film portion of the fan base that they hate them and they should leave.
Makes season 2 of The Mandalorian and tells their own cast that they hate them and they should leave.
Corporate greed will always suck the creativity and originality out of a lucrative franchise.
To me, it was clear that Disney wringing the neck of the golden goose till it was dead was not a matter of 'if' but 'when,' especially once they announced the Marvel approach of releasing a stream of mainline and side movies in short (12-24 month) order, along with the TV shows.
Who knew that if you don’t make good movies, people don’t watch them?
Film industry: im literally dying without money, and it gets worse when i try to earn more
Video Game industry: first time?
“And in other news, scientists have discovered that most things that get rained on tend to get wet.”
It's crazy how hard it is for a company as big as Disney to understand a simple concept. Bad movies, games, etc. = less big fans that will basically be a marketing department to casuals = less people seeing the movies and buying games and merch. Like this is really not rocket science, they have everything they need to succeed, just make decent media and the money will roll in.
Star wars didn't just die....it was MURDERED!!!
I feel like this is a bigger problem with a lot of media rn. Because companies have to be hyper focused on "line go up" they try and play things safer and safer which ends up just creating bad slop. The best movies that have come out in the past few years have been ones that have gone against the rest of the industry and audiences are starting to tune into that. People actually want quality but that involves taking risks which a company with fiduciary responsibilities will never take
Mandalorian went from good show to "The Grogu Show" because that works on the "Mom" demographic.
Perhaps all the "dead" franchises, Star Wars included, will be able to live again when they're put in the hands of the average joe through the public domain
Disney look longing at the Star Wars Christmas Special, wishing they could think up something as good.
Let's see Disney come up with something half as awesome as Harvey Korman's head hole!
Copium addict take
The problem is actually a Disney wide problem, the problem is Iger being the Peter Principle gone wrong. Iger probably doesn't understand what made things click and the creative proses, just look at how he did everything to kill Twin Peaks. In retrospect Eisner way of thinking would have been better for Star Wars and Marvel as he knew you need to make a good product to make money.
Chapek can't be a fall guy for that long as it seems that Iger never really left. At some point Iger should be thrown out like old yeller like how Eisner was ousted after too many bad ideas in the 00's.
I think the problem is writers who refuse to build a story from the ground up. All of the new stuff (except Andor) has a problem of clearly being written with a few moments in mind, then writing a sloppy story around those moments.
I don't know why anyone is surprised. We all knew Star Wars was gonna suck worse than the prequels with Disney at the helm.
Nah, their was general optimism at first.
Until Disney sells off Marvel and Star Wars and refocuses their attention on animation, I will not have much optimism for their future.
Hot take: Star wars was never interesting to begin with. They made it at a time when people weren't use to special effects, and no real large scale space movies existed.
It's just not a fun universe, there I said it.
tbh, id agree with the skywalker trilogy being fucking bland
but I fuck with the old republic era, that one actually asked questioned the Jedi, Sith and the force as a concept rather than just good and evil. Plus taking place 10,000 years before the main trilogy is a plus.
There still was good and evil in the force, it just wasn't as i guess drowing and cliche as the skywalker saga
The last Jedi was the nail in the coffin, they completely fucked it up and tried to salvage it with the rise of skywalker. Just hand the IP to someone else at this point. When it was Lucas we had so many good games, movies, books, all thrown away for this. I’m not a mega fan by any means but I do have a soft spot for it and respected the lore.
Another way Solo died is the reshoots. It was originally helmed by Lorde and Miller, a more comedic duo responsible for the lego movie. But midway through shooting they had a falling out with Disney and Ron Howard was brought in. This led to massive reshoots that pushed the budget up and delays. Because of this. Solo not only ended up with a 250 million dollar budget but had a may 2018 relaunch schedule that had it competing against Avengers Infinity War still riding high in theatres. Disney shot itself in the foot in so many ways with that movie. The movie itself is fine. Just fine. Has its fun moments and is an okay choice if you have nothing else to watch. RIP Star wars
How to revive Star Wars for Dummies.
1st Fire Kathleen Kennedy
2nd Bring back Expanded Universe
3rd Hire Timothy Zahn to write screenplays for a trilogy based on his Thrawn books.
4th Get a good director and casting office to NOT fuck it up.
I find it funny that they genuinely managed to ressurect Star Wars's reputation after episode 9 (with mando and the final season of clone wars), only to immediately burn it down again.
Disney probably took Star Wars fans for granted, thinking that they’ll gobble up anything with the Star Wars name on it. They instead tried to market the franchise to the rare kind of people who didn’t already like Star Wars, which apparently was the Tumblr audience.
They certainly thought the same thing with MCU fans.
Funny, I thought Tumblr audiences loved Star Wars.
@@Badmunky64 I dunno, man. If they wanted to cater to the Tumblr audience, they'd have Captain America hook up with Bucky instead of Peggy.
Y'all give Tumblr too much credit.
@@lazaroskarmaniolas7410 Were talking about normal viewers. Not basement dwellers. Also Tumblr died years ago.
I completely agree on the apathy part. I used to enjoy watching youtubers like Critical Drinker shit talk Disney slop, but I find myself not caring anymore.
its 100% over saturation what did we get after episode 3 ? some really good games books and the clone wars TV show.
Nice to see people are finally waking up to this.
Personally. I think it died with Ryan Johnson’s movie. He killed the dream
I honestly feel bad for Andor Season 2. The entire hopes and dreams of Star Wars fans has to rest solely upon it, instead of being spread out among different projects. We all know that super heighten expectations leads to a tougher ability to met those expectations. I hope that those working on it and those eventually watching it take that into consideration. That being said, I think it’ll be just as good as the first season!
Disney+ should thank its lucky stars it has Bluey - a show Disney doesn’t even produce.
We tried warning you since 2017 but you wouldn't listen
It's so sad how so many franchises and ideas have been ruined by corporate executives being too corporate. I liked the idea of giving the creative reins to a passionate nerd like in The Last Jedi, but then he just... did his own weird thing without respecting the source material that he claimed to love. George Lucas may have been a man with a vision, but the original trilogy was a combination of many talented peoples' influences and skills helping to create a whole that was greater than the sum of its parts. What lightning in a bottle.
The Force Awakens told us everything we needed to know about Disney's stewardship. Hollow, unoriginal retreads of what came before without a soul or plan.
How to fix star wars:
- Remove 7,8, and 9 from cannon. Make it legends.
- Hunt down the old devs from Lucasarts and hire them under a new Lucasfilm interactive department. Start making good games again
- Begin planning a new trilogy from start to finish based on George Lucas's treatment that Bob Iger intentionally threw out.
- remaster KOTOR
- Ban EA or Ubisoft from ever making a star wars game
- Only hire writers / directors who deeply care about the franchise and stop belittling fans for calling out bad writing.
Notice how all those computer games from the 90s either featured or referenced Thrawn even though he wasn't canon? :D The Thrawn trilogy of books were really that good!
Why not make KOTOR a TV show and hire good writer amd director because they arent even capble if that which is the bare minimum
Also somehow get the right for Fallen Order and Survivor to fromsoft and be made by people who made Dark Soul and armored cored
@@MacUser2-il2cx Personally I am a bigger fan of the 2000s era games that we made in the prequel era, but to each their own. A republic commando remake would go crazy.
@@USSAnimeNCC- I just don't trust Lucasfilm with TV adaptations. Maybe if they had a better story team in the future.
@@LFPAnimations Same with me and Star Wars Episode 1 Racer. I freaking LOVE that game!
Lesson from all this: you need the Fanatics to get the normies. Disrespect your Core Fanbase and it WILL kill the franchise.
They didn't ruin Star Trek they simply effed up the first 2-3 seasons of Discovery, Strange New Worlds more then made up for it. Also you forgot Sisko, show some respect.
As a long time star wars fan (since i was 4 so we approaching 20 years) i can recall a quote from one of Lucas Arts older games. In Knights of the old republic two on korriban (not Morriban fuck you filoni) theres a little side quest and one of the lines repeated at you is "Apathy is Death"
I "was" a devoted SW fan. I've done TCW marathons a lot. I did like EP7 when it came out(but not anymore. I despise of it) and still love Rogue One and Mando, didn't dislike Solo and BoBF, and enjoyed Ahsoka.
8 was a shatterpoint for me and 9 was one of the nail in the coffin but still loved SW. The Coffin wasn't buried yet.
But... Acoshyte... this completely destroyed my love of SW. Not only the show itself but also how shills attack again against fans who are not liking it, especially the hate movement organized by Star Wars Explained against Star Wars Theory has completely nailed down and buried the coffin.
I'm not sure if I will ever regain my love and interest of SW to the level I used to have.
let the apathy flow through you...
Ep 8 was the first time I had left the theater angry to the point I didn't care to watch Ep 9. I did start into the old EU and while it can be a bit of a mess, it's keeping my interest in the franchise alive.
For me Star wars died with Last jedi, rise of skywalker and the boba fett show
For all their issues the prequels were something made with passion and imagination behind it (for better or worse) Disneys movies in general feel like something made in a boardroom
Thank you for acknowledging that Star Trek was ruined by NuTrek. I'm still salty about it.
Everything bad that can be said about modern Hollywood you can find in 2024 in Star Wars.
Bad writers, bad CGI, overblown budgets, toxic crew/cast members attacking fans on social media, so on and so forth.
All of this and more is found in Star Wars. It's no wonder nobody cares anymore.
George Lucas was smart when he made his deal with 20th Century Fox and Star Wars he made sure that he had the merchandising rights
Andor is the ONLY reason I still care at all about anything new from Star Wars. My entire friend group agrees. We're done watching child friendly toy commercials dressed up like a sci-fi/space opera.
After Andor Season 2, we'll probably be done with the franchise unless they start making some more intelligent, adult focused content.
It’s Disney. They won’t.
@@MrSpartan993 Trust me, I'm not holding my breath
Star Wars died for me when I watched Episode 8. That movie was trash and it showed that Disney was going to continue to ruin it.
Same here. I came out of the theater feeling confused.
It was later that evening I realized I…didn’t like that Star Wars movie at all. It was a first for me personally.
The problem it's not how much viewers have, but how much it cost. You can't make a star wars series for 200 million or a movie for 500 million. It's too high. OG Starwars was very cheap and people love it. I'm saying that you need to use 70s VFX, but stop making wasting money in insignificant stuff. It's a movie, you need good characters, good stories, ok visuals, and that's it.
You are not angry at Star Wars, you are simply experiencing capitalism at its fullest
Better than Communism at its fullest. Then you live in current day China.
The only bit of SW that i still appreciate is Rogue One and Andor. But even watching something good, it's hard to not remember that all roads now are leading to the sequel trilogy.
I think rogue one deserves a lot more respect. It’s a legitimately fun movie that respects the source material
You're right, I don't give a shit.
Season seven of the clone wars andor and the mandolorian was the best things Disney gave us.
I remember the days when everyone hated on the prequels now we realise that things could have been much worse and that the prequels weren’t that bad really, especially after clone wars.
@@awesomehpt8938 "Sure my stepdad used to beat me with a belt every night, but now that I'm locked in this serial killers basement I realize that my stepdad actually wasn't that bad, really"
Disney has drastically lowered your expectations/standards..that doesn't necessarily mean that the prequels were good lol
The prequels were actually decent movies, especially III. The problem was that they weren’t what people expected from Star Wars. The people who grew up with the original trilogy expected more of the same and instead got something completely different, but as time went on and people looked at them without that context it actually turned out that they were good. It was metal gear solid 2 before metal gear solid 2.
@@evananderson1455 Thank you! I don't understand why people are saying the prequals are good. #3 is closest to decent, but beyond that it baffles me. They're not hot garbage, but it's still far from good. My best guess is as a trilogy, it functions better, but as individual movies they're mid at best.
I always felt like the prequels are a good example of a good idea/story, just a poorly executed one. Honestly I don't even think it takes that many changes to make it a much better experience. The big one imo would be making Anakin and Padme closer in age, which avoids most of TPM weirdness.
The Sequels on the other hand are a bad idea/story with lots of good big budget support behind them
@@jakebedsaul6857 when judged individually, I'd say #7 is the best movie. However, I agree that while poorly executed, the overall better story throughout the prequal makes that triolgy better than the sequel.
They had no plans for a multi billion dollar franchise. They had good actors with an unlimited budget but nowhere to go narratively other than "Let's do 'Star Wars' again, but worse!"
If you want a very good example of an entertainment company doing a 180 into a good direction, look at how awesome WWE has been with their product. The fans are very happy, WWE is breaking arena records and grossing records for events.
If you listen to your audience, the hardcore audience tells the casual audience, thus growing interest. Listening is key to selling.
Before the Disney purchase, Star Wars was a franchise that was over in the eyes of the mainstream public, with more dedicated fans still following and consuming supplementary material (the EU).
Now it's the same but toxic as a waste heap and the past prestige of the brand has deteriorated.
Did you really need nine years to state this though?
Never thought I'd see the day where a *Transformers* movie is treated with more respect and creative storytelling than most Star Wars media in the last few years
Porgs were a necessary add on coming about almost by accident. They shot episode 8 on an Irish island that was also a puffin nature preserve. In order to film there at all they could not disturb the puffins, and they ended up in the background of nearly every shot. They invented Porgs as a way to explain away the Puffins. digitally changing all the background puffins to Porgs, or leaving them out of focus.
The fact that the prequels, quality wise, were terrible yet still did nothing to damage star wars says more about how bad Kathleen Kennedy is than anything else.