(Timestamps for theory presentation) P theme: 0:00 S theme: 1:57 T theme: 1:33 T theme example: 2:50 Rhythmic organization - P theme example: 6:28 Rhythmic organization - other example: 9:50
Michael H. I’m not op, but I can! The first movement is cast in sonata form, with the P theme being the primary theme that opens (introduction) and closes (recapitulation) the concerto. The S theme is the secondary theme that leads into the development section, which is in a markedly different character that the P theme. The T theme is the transition theme that links the P and S themes together at the beginning of the development and beginning of the recapitulation. The rhythmic organization is just the theme reworked to have a different rhythm. Hope this helped
As a boy I loved to sing along with all the great violin concertos my parents appeared to have on vinyl. From Tshaikovsky through Mendelssohn and Bruch and Brahms to Saint-Saëns (not to forget!), by the great performers of those days like Arthur Grumiaux and David Oistrach. When I was twenty though, in glorious Amsterdam 1968, I found this Prokofyev's second, by the young Shlomo Mintz. I studied Russian and I was totally blown away, it seemed as if every note held an unbearable and unspeakable truth. Returning last week from a bout with the Grim Reaper (I'm 73 now) I searched my entire collection for it, first thing but in vain. Finally finding the same performance on YT. Thanks so much for uploading this, you made this day a most happy one!
It makes me so happy that I am not alone in the depth of feeling this wonderful music evokes. I am now 83 and my love for this and other Prokofiev dates back to the '60s when, working in my studio I would steal time to listen entranced to Vinyl 33s(?) from the public library.
This resonates with me very much. As a young violinist I always turned my nose up at the 20th century concertos, thinking them too obtuse and vulgar. (To my ear at the time...) as I have grown older I hear the unsaid meanings behind these compositions.... Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, khatchaturian, even Glavunov. There are colours on the palette of mystery, rage, lust, letting go.... many emotions the romantic concertos don’t reach. Beautiful in its own way, I’m still young but hope I can capture these feelings trying these great concerti out!
I am so disappointed that this violinist is not as well known as much deserved. Her style, sound, technique, mastery, etc. is at the highest level matched by few. As we know there are many great violinists out there. She is one of the best. This recording in my opinion is the best out of all of them.
Sometimes (and this might not apply to Leila) artists are their own worst enemies. Look at what happened to Fodor. Even great artists can be obnoxious just so many times before conductors stop hiring them.
This is similar in style to that whole crazy ending of his 5th symphony. In part I think also inspired by the ending of Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherezade.
I try to follow the score at the same time as the music but... Holy sh... it's hard. Yet I can follow Rachmaninov's concertos, but I don't know why, here I'm constantly late. Maybe because it's a violin so I can't follow the left hand chords. Prokofiev's music is so strange, I love it.
The playing is great but a bit schizophrenic - sometimes very gentle and caressing and at other times quite violent. Leila does that little section beginning at 18:48 so beautifully it takes my breath away.
The 2nd movement should be as famous as RachPag Variation . I can't believe this concerto is not programmed every season . There's a Beeth version of his violin concerto he himself made for piano . This music should be the envy of pianists even with Prokofiev great 5 pf concerti .No.5 is fantastic. You rarely hear the left hand one .
At the time of this concerto, Prokofyev's life, like that of Shostakovich, could be glorified or simply ended abruptly, we can no longer even imagine the horror of Stalin's day for artists he liked -- please don't like me, you idiot monster.... Read Shostakovitch's memories, the valiant Boris Pasternak, who dared to speak out only because he was too famous with the people even for Europe's worst tyrant ever (only Mao made two or three times as many casualties, Hitler in third place only, can you imagine the atmosphere my parents and perhaps your grandparents in Europe had to cope with: a knock on the door could mean Sudden Death for the entire family.) In this music, every note, every melody, motion, twist and turn has a deeper layer to it only the hundred-year old, like the chess champion Yuri Averbach, can truly understand, I spoke to him about it. Russians are like that, they know entire novels by heart as in Fahrenheit so-much, have learned for many centuries to listen behind the notes and words, not to trust a single person with a function anywhere near government. Now listen again please, let the music engulf you, you may catch a shade of horror and joy and despair and true love. Prokofyev was the greatest, he managed not to compromise, like Shostakovitch did.
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Prokofiev
The composer that will make you leave the concert feeling very distressed and even more confused
I love it
Reminds me of watching Avengers Endgame and Spiderman No Way Home it's damn confusing
(Timestamps for theory presentation)
P theme: 0:00
S theme: 1:57
T theme: 1:33
T theme example: 2:50
Rhythmic organization - P theme example: 6:28
Rhythmic organization - other example: 9:50
If you don't mind could you explain the ideas in your presentation? (I know this might be awhile after you presented it)
Michael H. I’m not op, but I can! The first movement is cast in sonata form, with the P theme being the primary theme that opens (introduction) and closes (recapitulation) the concerto. The S theme is the secondary theme that leads into the development section, which is in a markedly different character that the P theme. The T theme is the transition theme that links the P and S themes together at the beginning of the development and beginning of the recapitulation. The rhythmic organization is just the theme reworked to have a different rhythm. Hope this helped
@erine lee thanks! it helps
@@tchaikoffkey Thank you so much! That was very helpful! :D
2nd movement is almost the most beautiful piece of music I've ever heard.
soooo cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee right
like a small kitty
i knoww i'm learning it right now and its so magicalll i love itt
facts
You should try listening to Tchaikovsky’s second movement.
I can't listen to it. It kills me. It brings me to tears.
As a boy I loved to sing along with all the great violin concertos my parents appeared to have on vinyl. From Tshaikovsky through Mendelssohn and Bruch and Brahms to Saint-Saëns (not to forget!), by the great performers of those days like Arthur Grumiaux and David Oistrach. When I was twenty though, in glorious Amsterdam 1968, I found this Prokofyev's second, by the young Shlomo Mintz. I studied Russian and I was totally blown away, it seemed as if every note held an unbearable and unspeakable truth. Returning last week from a bout with the Grim Reaper (I'm 73 now) I searched my entire collection for it, first thing but in vain. Finally finding the same performance on YT. Thanks so much for uploading this, you made this day a most happy one!
It makes me so happy that I am not alone in the depth of feeling this wonderful music evokes. I am now 83 and my love for this and other Prokofiev dates back to the '60s when, working in my studio I would steal time to listen entranced to Vinyl 33s(?) from the public library.
This resonates with me very much. As a young violinist I always turned my nose up at the 20th century concertos, thinking them too obtuse and vulgar. (To my ear at the time...) as I have grown older I hear the unsaid meanings behind these compositions.... Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, khatchaturian, even Glavunov. There are colours on the palette of mystery, rage, lust, letting go.... many emotions the romantic concertos don’t reach. Beautiful in its own way, I’m still young but hope I can capture these feelings trying these great concerti out!
Love this comment, hope you’re doing well
I am so disappointed that this violinist is not as well known as much deserved.
Her style, sound, technique, mastery, etc. is at the highest level matched by few.
As we know there are many great violinists out there.
She is one of the best.
This recording in my opinion is the best out of all of them.
Sometimes (and this might not apply to Leila) artists are their own worst enemies. Look at what happened to Fodor. Even great artists can be obnoxious just so many times before conductors stop hiring them.
25:02 the moment where ray chen breaking his string
the second movement sounds like a rolling green countryside, it makes me feel proud, and satisfied. At least the first theme of it.
Such interesting melodies
this is my favorite piece by prokofiev!Love from Cyprus ;)
who else saw ray chen's video of his string breaking during this piece in the 3rd movement?
a little after 24:55 lol
24:27
This piece is underrated.
This is similar in style to that whole crazy ending of his 5th symphony. In part I think also inspired by the ending of Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherezade.
@@Tomsfilipsons а мне кажется он также сильно вдохновился Чайковским. 2-я часть очень напоминает его стиль.
by whom?
Wonderful performance. Prokofiev for the heart and the mind. Thank you for uploading.
& soul
@@Warp75 Yessss! Thank you Warpie.
When Prokofiev nails it! The meno mosso theme of mvt 1is so achingly nostalgic of 30s melancholy elegance -- sure enough the concerto is of 1935.
Melancholy>Happiness, love this piece!
That bass drum though
Just been given this for my conservatoire audition... I need to start practising
Extraordinario concierto!!!!!!!
11:02
21:59
I try to follow the score at the same time as the music but... Holy sh... it's hard. Yet I can follow Rachmaninov's concertos, but I don't know why, here I'm constantly late. Maybe because it's a violin so I can't follow the left hand chords.
Prokofiev's music is so strange, I love it.
Probably this score tricks you because it's Violin part only, it lacks orchestral part. Try to find the complete score.
1st violin concerto even difficult
Pretty sure rubato tempo here! That's why it's hard to follow.
@@thelonious76 rubato!
@@blubs6968 the soloist's playing is so supple.
The playing is great but a bit schizophrenic - sometimes very gentle and caressing and at other times quite violent. Leila does that little section beginning at 18:48 so beautifully it takes my breath away.
The 2nd movement should be as famous as RachPag Variation . I can't believe this concerto is not programmed every season . There's a Beeth version of his violin concerto he himself made for piano . This music should be the envy of pianists even with Prokofiev great 5 pf concerti .No.5 is fantastic. You rarely hear the left hand one .
F ing Phenomenal
16:40 That theme always reminds me of the third theme in the 3rd movement of his 8th sonata
i love it!
Movement I: 0:00
Movement II: 11:01
Movement III: 21:58
Wait I'm so confused
How do he manage to make the Piu Animato the same tempo as Andantino?
Where? Andantino is the piu animato of andante, sometimes.
The beginning always throws me off because the melody is 5 beats but the time signature is 4/4
Where did you get the solo violin part from?
From her 2001 disk, I believe.
Why no love for the slow melody of the last movement!?
Andante magique, un peu comme celui du concerto pour violon de Haydn, même si j'ai entendu meilleure interprétation (peut-être la prise de son...)
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Life!!!
25:08 ❤
Teacher: Please focus!
My ADHD brain: 23:50
Leila Josefowicz. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leila_Josefowicz
Great violinist, but why is he performing all this glissando in the cantabile? It is out of place in this music.
Where can I get the sheet music in this video?
UA-cam: "This is piano"
Who is the soloist on this recording?
Who's the violinist ??
12:19 😭
4:23
Bro forgot second movement isn't a Tsigane
do you know if this song is copyrighted?
11:06 - 14:28 well, ain't this cute?
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In my opinion, the key changes way too often than it needs to. I feel like it just overcomplicates things.
Max Bruch would say that he writes music for wedding receptions. :D
At the time of this concerto, Prokofyev's life, like that of Shostakovich, could be glorified or simply ended abruptly, we can no longer even imagine the horror of Stalin's day for artists he liked -- please don't like me, you idiot monster.... Read Shostakovitch's memories, the valiant Boris Pasternak, who dared to speak out only because he was too famous with the people even for Europe's worst tyrant ever (only Mao made two or three times as many casualties, Hitler in third place only, can you imagine the atmosphere my parents and perhaps your grandparents in Europe had to cope with: a knock on the door could mean Sudden Death for the entire family.)
In this music, every note, every melody, motion, twist and turn has a deeper layer to it only the hundred-year old, like the chess champion Yuri Averbach, can truly understand, I spoke to him about it. Russians are like that, they know entire novels by heart as in Fahrenheit so-much, have learned for many centuries to listen behind the notes and words, not to trust a single person with a function anywhere near government. Now listen again please, let the music engulf you, you may catch a shade of horror and joy and despair and true love. Prokofyev was the greatest, he managed not to compromise, like Shostakovitch did.
25:36
Who
This has to be Hilary Hahn. You should be giving credit to the people who performed them.
The performer as suggested by the title is Leila Josefowicz.
I hear all kinds of new names mentioned for the soloist. Is it not just Shlomo Mintz?
24:40 One of the most annoying parts in this concerto
what the? this piece sucks
In what way- I’m interested in hearing your opinions
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3:20
4:22
5:30