Nice comparison BikingChap. I've recently bought a 2023 NC750 DCT with lots of pricey Honda add-ons (tall screen, heated grips, Honda rack and top box, wind deflectors, USB-C plug point, so similar in price to the Transalp in the end, which I did briefly consider. What I've ended up with is a well equipped, relaxing engined commuter/all rounder that will meet my needs every day and go well beyond when I want it too. I no longer want a revvy engine and don't need all that top-end excess for most of my riding... so much tech along the roads in the South East that I can't ride like I used to back in the day, so no point in having a bike that temps me to ride that way. And that is one of the main reasons I went for the NC instead of the Transalp. Oh, that and the frunk, the DCT, the lower more comfortable around town riding position, the fuel economy and the proven longevity. I had a Transalp in the 90s and that was more in keeping with the character of the NC today, not today's Transalp. These two bikes are now so different to each other they're not in direct competition with each other and appeal to different riders' needs and wants. Both lovely though!
Hi Steve, thanks for your kind words and I agree. The engines characters alone mean these bikes tend to suit riders looking for different things. As you'll know the NC is very flattering, calming and dare I say charming? The Transalp engine far more lively but maybe a bit wearing if you're not in the mood? The biggest oddity, and it's very much a 'what the market will bear' thing is that the Transalp is over £2,000 more than the Hornet. That's a lot for some fancier styling and wheels that aren't so good on tarmac imho.
I have had a CB500F 2022 (first bike after passing my test) and chopped it back in for a new 2024 NC750X. Nothing wrong at all with the CB500F other than stability on the motorways on windy days. Added a large screen and tank bag and realized I was turning my CB500F into its Adventure cousin the CB500X. I do photography have have the camera I am using for the day in the Tank bag so the NC750X "Frunk" is going to be a god send. The only gamble I am taking is that the NC will be more planted on the motorways and that I will have to wait until the 600 mile service is done. Being still in my first year of a full licence my insurance rating stopped me getting the NT1100 which I still have my eye on to own in a couple of years, maybe. Great comparison and I wish you well and safe riding.
Thanks Dave for your kind words. I found the NC very planted on the motorways, it's a pretty hefty bike, though i didn't run an aftermarket screen. I found the NT1100 quite a bit more intimidating and while much more powerful they do have a reputation for being a bit less than smooth off a closed throttle to the extent some ride them in rain mode, especially in town. As for the NC and it's frunk, just be careful with the camera gear because the temp in the frunk can get quite high. Good to hear from you, ride safe and enjoy yourself!
@@BikingChap Planted on the motorways is a good thing to hear as that is the main reason for the upgrade. Thank you for the heads up on the Camera idea. I do not know how but I have saved £300 on the insurance getting a bigger bike lol.
@@davecarrera Just worth checking re the cameras, they might be ok but certainly not ideal for chocolate lol. As an added bonus the NCs are WAY easier to service than the 500s and no worse on fuel, enjoy!
Another excellent video! Thanks BC. I find the NC very enjoyable. The way the torque comes on from the bottom is very satisfying and yes, fun. Excellent handling too. It's also super cheap to run, easy to work on and will last forever.
Thanks for the kind words Robert, much appreciated! I agree with all your points and I should have included 'cheap to run' as well as to purchase in the NC's favour. Ultimately the Transalp is more focussed and if the extra performance is important, that's a good thing. However that extra focus does mean it's a less general purpose bike. It is more fussy in town, the front end isn't so sure footed in bends and DCT (if that's your thing) isn't available. As I always say it's all about want best suits your priorities rather than the faster bike simply being better!
Haven't tried TransAlp (not available in Dubai yet), but own a manual transmission 2021 NC. My wife came with me as a pillion passenger twice. She refused to come again. Her reasoning, you might ask, was two folds; it is a lot of work to keep upright back there, she complained. Then she dropped the main reason. Your bike is not expensive enough ( having seen 1250 GS in BMW showroom and Africa Twin in Honda's). I did my best to explain to her that my riding philosophy is of NC type. I said I could not relate to overly heavy and overly engineered bikes. I am a utilitarian and prefer my tools to be of the same character. Anyhow, out of curiosity I did test ride a GS as well as an AT. As for GS, I was very impressed with how nimble and manurable it was for its weight. Also the suspension was fantastic. On the other hand, I found that the power delivery was not to my liking at all. You need to rev the engine much more before you shift up with GS and AT. NC produces its max. torque at 4,750 RPM which makes a lot of sense to me. If you look at NC's torque, horsepower vs. RPM curve, both curves intersect at about 5k RPM. I seldom go above 5k. I shift up as soon as I can; that's my style. Naturally, if you rev above 5k, NC takes you nowhere, but GS and AT will propel you like mad. When I see into a mirror, I see traces of sanity rather than madness. If you wish to get much accelaration from NC, shift down and then rev to 5K RPM. Chances are your'll be pleased.
I think we are of the same mind! There are few engines like the NC around now, most are chasing high horse power figures at the expense of low / mid range drive. Maybe try the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio, lots of torque and I'm sure your wife will think it expensive enough :) Good luck!
@BikingChap Since you mentioned it, I did look at Moto Guzzi Stelvio specs. It produces its max. torque at 6,750 rpm, while NC does it's max. at 4,750. Guzzi has a compression ration of 12.6:1 while NC has it at 10.7:1 (low stressed engine). Also Guzzi has a stroke of 72 mm, while NC has it at 80 mm. Guzzi is 245 Kg while NC is 214 Kg wet. I believe as regards NC, the combination of Longer Stroke, lower compression ratio, and the resultant lower rpm for its max. torque, and 30 Kg lighter, makes NC a much better bike for my liking. On the other hand, I cannot see myself riding that Guzzi with 2 very hot cylinder heads protruding from each side so close to my knees. Furthermore, reliability of Italian motorcycles, availability of parts, etc. is going to be worrisome too.
I don’t have any experience of the NC but I’ve owned a Transalp for 5 months and having done 4k miles on it I think your assessment is spot on. Peaky engine but great fun, poor low speed fueling, great front end feel but the rear shock lets it down a little when you start pushing on a little. Cracking fun manageable bike that's competitively priced and whilst the components aren't the highest quality it still has that feel of a well put together bike that Honda always manage to pull off so well.
Hi Darren, thanks for the feedback. I think the bike is a great compromise, I really do. I tend to potter about most of the time and then have a blat once in a while and I loved that engine. Though some tester bemoan the relative lack of low end drive, I still don't think it's a deal breaker and it's just so characterful for a Japanese engine let alone a Honda! If i had deep enough pockets, I'd have one tomorrow.
Here on this side of the pond, cruisers are a big deal. Regardless of whether they are actually more comfortable, people buy cruisers for comfort and ease of riding. They have relatively low rpm engines tuned for low end grunt, a low seat height and relaxed demeanour. The NC is a cruiser for people who don't like cruisers and also without the physical limitations; like poor ground clearance and inadequate short travel suspension. What the NC retains is a very relaxed low rpm ability to travel or cruise. This ease of riding is especially great for those of us who are no longer young. I would love to have one.
That's a really good take on it, i think it's a mind set. The NC might not have the character of a Harley but it does that low rev grunt power delivery that some folk really enjoy. A great workhorse.
I have a 2015 NC750X going 140,000km in a bit. For already 8 years 7mths, this bike has not once given me any probs. It's not comparable to Transalp. The right comparison would be the X-ADV750. NC750X is just your daily Honda CB150 with a bigger engine. All the low maintenance, reliability there. And my wife and I had gone on thousands of kms of roadtrips with full load in the frunk, side and rear panniers with speeds ranging from 150 - 170kmh. Takes about 280km before the fuel goes empty on the 14.1L tank. I'll take my fuel stop at the 160km mark to reach my destination which is a total of 360km with spare left for riding around Town. On normal ride 90 - 110kmh, it'll reach 350 - 380km easily. Can't imagine not having the frunk for my next bike. I had a 01' Yamaha R1 in 2007 and comparing in power, 150hp vs 58hp, NC750X can't get you that speed thrill or 299kmh top end but it gets the job done from Point A to B.
Had 2 days hire of the nc 750x dct on the gran canaria , was impressed with the bike , 2 up around the twisties it was the bike to have . Then 1 day on the transalp , engine seemed harsh , not smooth pulling out of corners , taller , less frugal ...wasn't really happy with it . Funnily enough whilst 2 up on the nc we overtook the guy on the translap ,so must be more confidence on it too. Fan of the dct too now.
I found the NC unintimidating and very accessible, a true workhorse and the DCT suits it well. The Transalp is a slightly mixed bag I felt, in the Hornet the engine is characterful and encouraged you to thrash it. In the Transalp, with the same tune as the Hornet, it felt a little peaky and the performance less accessible, all a bit at odds with it's very easy going soft suspension I felt.
Thanks for the excellent comparison review of the two bikes BC,I hear & understand all the data you delivered & fully agree. I think come the spring I will head to my fairly local Honda main dealer (25 miles) & check out the Transalp,I really could do with some extra engine power and a lighter bike to manhandle out of the shed - NC dct is a lump. Not too keen however on the higher asking price combined with higher running costs and those tubed tyres.Taking out the demonstrator is a must,but of course it also depends on the deal in offered.
Thanks as ever for the kind words, John! The weight difference when punting it around the drive (as you can see, mine is on a slope!) is not huge but the amount of power is in another league and it's hard to believe they share the same capacity. Personally I'd like a cross between the Hornet road going manners (and tubeless rims) and the Transalp leg room, almost a Honda Supermotard 750 if you will. That would be a hoot. :)
Transalp has better brakes, more suspension travel, more ground clearance, more power, and in the US these are about the same price. Only reason I'd get the NC is if I was unable or unwilling to shift manually. Thanks for the comparison.
In the UK there's quite a difference: 7,949GBP for the NC (manual) and 9,699GBP for the Transalp. In reality I think they appeal to different market segments. The NC is a great commuter that is far easier to service and uses far less fuel than the Transalp that can also tour. The Transalp can also commute but it'll cost much more in fuel and potentially more expensive to service. As you say though the seat, brakes, suspension and particularly the engine are far better on the Transalp.
@@podunkman2709 I've never found the NC too heavy to commute on but sure if the trip is very short, perhaps in town only, a smaller scooter might make more sense.
It's rumored the NC750X is "half of a Honda Jazz/fit" 1,500 4 cyl motor. That's quite a good thing. Thus the overall performance goals were aimed more toward usability, efficiency, and reliability etc. I'm aware of NC750X examples with 100's of thousands of miles with nary a hiccup. The design goals/objectives and targeted customers very different group. I can appreciate both segments. But I suspect (especially given DCT) the two bikes will not cross over and steal each other's market.
Hi @sunrisejak2709 , I did a video a while back, specifically on the 'half a jazz engine' thing, you might want to take a look: ua-cam.com/video/yirAdaDXPGk/v-deo.html I tend to agree that there's not a huge amount of crossover and I think the lowering of the more recent NC model was a move to further differentiate the two models. Perhaps what we are seeing are people who like a bit of zip getting the NC and finding it a bit lacking then looking at the Transalp and thinking that'll be right up their street. Both great bikes, imho, but just suit different rider priorities, it's great to have a choice!
Hi, thank you for the feedback.! Going forward I need to remember that I have viewers outside the UK, especially the fuel consumption numbers, I'll either mention it in the commentary or in subtitles so as many people as possible can access the information :)
What a great review and comparison, currently on an NC and considering a change to the transalp. I haven't seen them side by side like you have in your video...would you say they are basically the same size (from a road presense perspective)? From the video, it actually appers as if the NC has a slightly larger look, but could be the camera angle.
Hi Gord, thanks for your very kind words, much appreciated! The camera angle is a bit deceptive here, the Transalp feels a bigger, wider bike at the bars but no heavier in honesty. It feels more like a lighter Africa Twin rather than a bigger NC if that makes sense. Without going over the video again, I'd ask yourself why you'd want to upgrade. At low revs the Transalp doesn't drive any harder than the NC really, its power is very much stacked in the upper half of the rev range but it's more comfortable, much better suspended and better braked, arguably it's the better looking bike too. It's not as practical though, it obviously loses the frunk and those wheels, whilst looking very nice, are still running tubes. Try and get a test ride and let me know what you think. :)
@@BikingChap I think it might be the new shinny thing more than anything else. After 30 years of riding across likely 15-20 bikes of all kinds, I do really enjoy the NC DCT. I had a puncture during a ride last fall, the nail was in the tire so I was able to make it back without any issues (slow leak) with tubed tires couldn’t have made it home. Will definitely test ride at some point.
Is the NC750X boring? I've watched a couple reviews that suggest this bike isn't fun. They call it a commuter for people who don't care about having fun.
It depends very much what your expectations are really. To some only a tuned RD350YPVS is fun, while i can have fun on pretty anything with two wheels and an engine. If you think of it like a modern take on a CB650 or NTV650 sans the shaft drive you'll not a millions off. If you love the way an MT07 rides then sure, the NC will seem a little dull but it's 270 crank and increased torque, if not power, make it a bit less dull than the 500 twins of old imho.
Yes. To put it simply, I bought one for commuting about 40 miles each way including maybe 30 on the motorway, but not once in nearly a year have I even considered going out for a ride on it just for the sake of a ride as I have with other bikes. As a commuter it's perfect, good mpg, cruises comfortably at motorway speeds, good weather protection, front storage is great for carrying chain/disc lock/water proofs etc without needing a top box, more than enough torque very low down makes it a breeze in the rush hour traffic, but just no fun in my opinion which is why I'm seriously considering replacing it, with the Transalp currently top of the list, took one for a test ride the other day and it's worlds apart if your idea of fun needs a bit of power and more revs. It's a great bike but I personally wouldn't call it a fun bike
I’ve been on a quest to find the perfect bike for me for many years 🤣. It’s got to the point where I have two bikes as there isn’t one bike that’s perfect for me. Right now I have a 2022 R1250GS and a 2018 X-ADV 750. I love them both. I reckon if Honda dropped a 100bhp motor and fitted cruise control to the X-ADV it would be the perfect bike for me. It works well having two bikes as when I get a little bored of one I simply ride the other more 🤣. Not sure what I’ll do when the GS is due for replacement next year as I really don’t like the look of the new 1300 GS, and I need a bike I like the look of. As things stand I reckon I’ll go with a RnineT as they have cruise etc. I did own a DCT NC for a few years, great bike but found it a little lacking 2 up (suspension & power).
Hi @TheDervMan, I agree, two up the NC750 weaknesses are amplified, the suspension and the lack of power particularly. The problem I'm finding these days is I quite like a middle of the road riding position and most models now have become more focussed in their particular niche. So those that had a touring bias are now full on tourers with weight and girth to match, ditto bikes that were a bit sporting have become extreme sports bikes. Even 'adventure' need a set of steps to get onboard now. For me a middle of the road sit up and beg chassis (but not 7ft tall adventure high) with the Africa Twin motor would be a good compromise, perhaps they could call it a CBF1100 ;)
@@BikingChap I’d love to spend a hour with Honda to understand why they make the decisions they do. They keep getting so close to the GS but miss one virtual thing.
I think time has sadly run out now. With a ban on petrol bikes around the corner in development terms we'll not be seeing the likes of a VFR1200 or Blackbird replacement now so the 1100 twin will have to cover touring and adventure duties, i just wish there was a 'road' varient.
@@bergindo absolutely, the NT1100 is a fine bike but it's having to cover all the bases historically covered by the Pan European, the CBF1000 and the Blackbird and it just can't do that convincingly in my book.
Thanks for the feedback! I can imagine the DCT are a godsend if you have a prosthetic leg, good to see they have stuck with the system which so many appreciate. :)
@@BikingChapIts a wonderful invention. I alternate between taking out the two wheeled Honda NC750X, and my old timer Guzzi I-Convert sidecar outfit with its torque converter box. The all-round experience is a bit like owning a sports car and a truck. Love them both. There are still very few options that suit me. Nearly all Honda (kudos for that). Without an ankle I have to flat-foot, so the taller DCT models are out and even the NC had to be lowered beyond the standard kit. Thanks for all the videos.
@@amp2amp800 must be really frustrating but glad to hear you're still on two wheels, I've always fancied a Guzzi! I've taken a few months out but more video coming very soon! :)
other youtubes compared the nc750 with cb500xx; the additional weight is compensated by the additionsl power (only) so you get nothing extra over the 500x. Really need more power so any additional; from the Transalp would be a big plus. The NC is better with the low seat for driver and passenger.
Yes, I've compared the NC with the CB500x too. I think the CB is the better package unless you regularly travel at 60mph plus where the better screen and more relaxed engine become an advantage. Otherwise the cheaper price, better suspension and brakes and lower weight tip the balance to the CB.
Also the Transalp looks brilliant but I simply couldn’t buy a new bike without proper cruise control as there as so many speed cams near me, cruise means it’s one less thing to fret about.
I think Honda particularly play the game of releasing a new bike with a few key features omitted only to do a model refresh a couple of years later where the facility magically appears. A bit like the initial very bland colour choice on the NT1100, this year we've got a stunning red for e.g. I bet the cruise on the Transalp will come too...
@@BikingChap good observation. I love DCT but there’s nothing that meets my needs in the Honda range. The AT is too off road biased and the NT is sooooooooooo dull.
I don't think it's just Honda. It seems now bikes have to either be full on 'tourers', 'adventure' bikes, 'cruisers' or 'sports' bikes. The old school UJM kind of bike seems to be vanishing sadly.
Afternoon .....so as a non owner of either bike my questions would be if the comparison was against a comparable bike like a KTM 790 Adventure how would the transalp stand up? I think there is a need for varying bikes for varying uses.....as mentioned by TheDervMan....thanks for the comparison and as always for the content.
Hi Adam, that would be ideal to get hold of a KTM but, sadly, I just don't have access to them currently. I think it would be a fascinating comparison and on paper they look to be close competitors. From what I read the KTM drives harder lower down and certainly looks more special but then which would I trust more from a reliability standpoint? Heart vs head decision maybe!
i like the seat height on the 500x; less than 800; and leg room is greaet and seat is comfy; all that are off a bit on the transalp. good price comared to others from yamaha, and far better than triumph.
nice review but i think you have skipped over the main difference between theses bikes - that is the riding position. I admit to being only 5' 9" but having tested both bikes (on the same day) they were like chalk and cheese. the trans alp was a real struggle to get on and then ride as the engine seemed much more difficult to control than the NC 750. Personally i can't see anyone who is considering an NC 750 ever choosing the transalp.
Hi @chewitt6426 , thanks for the feedback and it's a fair point I didn't really call the differing riding positions. I think the difficulty in getting on the Transalp is down to the kicked up rear seat in the main. My 2018 NC has a seat height of 830mm, the Transalp is only 20mm higher but it feels significantly harder to throw a leg over. The Transalp certainly is twitchy off a closed throttle but I did adjust to it quite quickly and RAIN mode made it very docile if you were a newer rider. Having been in the NC750X Facebook groups for a while now it's certainly an option that people keep talking about as a potential upgrade so while many are happy with the NC, those seeking a bit more get up and go may well consider the Transalp as a more manageable next step than the Africa Twin. Thanks again for feeding back!
You could probably drop the forks through the yokes a little and fit different linkages at the rear, you can do this on the NC and i suspect manufacturers will, in time, produce something similar for the Transalp if they haven't already.
Good question. I don’t think either excel from a passenger point of view but the NC in particularly struggles with a lack of go and firm seat. If you can test a Transalp and it’s not for you, I’d say you can safely discount the nc in that regard.
At least in Portugal nc750x pruce is almost the same as transalp...its a no brainer unless you are going to do more than 24000km per year and fuel consumption is a priority.
You can fit your helmet in that "frunk" compartment of the 750x. It's soooo soooo soooooo convenient! The Transalp has no such compartment. It would be a huge inconvenience from having one to not having one.
Good point, just check your helmet fits, some do, some don't. Even if the helmet doesn't fit, the frunk is still hugely useful and so much more convenient than a traditional tank bag!
Absolutely @christianweller4288 , that's why they're such a popular choice for those commuting. A bit like the CX500 or NTV650 of old really, workmanlike and bulletproof rather than 'yeehah!' exciting :)
@@BikingChap ……. And of course a vast improvement over both of those. I never got to ride the original Transalp, would be interested in a comparison of old and new for say commuting rather than touring.
The original Transalp used the NTV motor but obviously with chain drive. Soft and reliable so very much like the NC in character and totally different from the bonkers engine in the new Transalp. A good reliable commuter / winter hack now if you can find a clean one.
I tend to agree. I love the engine in the Transalp / Hornet and for me something a little less cramped than the Hornet or say 19" tubeless rims on a Transalp would be near perfect. :)
In honesty I don't either are at their best two up, both are going to be a bit cramped. The NC is more docile and chilled and the Transalp has a lot more power but I'd be looking for something with more low / mid range torque for regular two jaunts especially if over any distance.
@@JakeyMikeySmithey better suited two up? That's a trickly one i have to say at a similar price point. I'd be tempted to look at the well regarded Vstrom 650, pretty good two up with an engine with much more power than the NC but not the relative peakiness of the Transalp. At this time of year and with the Transalp the one everyone's talking about, it might be the perfect time to snag a bargain.
You can stand on the left foot peg to mount the bike, no need for kung-fu gymnastics - especially with tall ADV bikes. It's the Transalp for me, life's too short to not have fun.
I think it’s the only way as I get older, though it’s much more approachable than the Africa Twin in that regard. It certainly is more fun than it has any right to be.
"Power" does not matter. As typical rider you use torque (most of guys think this is power😂). "Power" matters if u ride superbike, at high speed. Transalp will deliver bigger joy of ride comparing to NC
On smaller bikes it matter more because you have to use all on the engine rev range, on bigger bikes like this, I agree. You have to be going pretty fast to need get to the higher power on the Transalp.
Hi, I'd love to but don't have access to both bikes currently. Both would labour in 6th at 40mph but the most telling thing is that the torque is not that different between the two bikes. I did try to find power curves of both bikes but in short just as the NC is running out of puff, the Transalp is coming alive. If you like driving always from low revs you may find the the Transalp doesn't feel like a 90bhp motor but if you use more of the rev range, more often, the Transalp feel MUCH more lively. Also don't write off the new Suzuki 800 range, i hear they pull better low down than the Transalp for just a few less peak bhp, perfect!
yes, i know about the new suzuki paraller.but new vstroms are ugly and heavy,maybe the gsx8s would be good choise,but wind protection?i think transalp's motor is tuned wrong.in hornet make sence.but not in a tall on/off bike.anyway,so,for a little sport riding from time to time,in back roads,you think nc750 is good?also with my lady back you say its good for short trips?@@BikingChap
I agree that the new Suzuki's are ugly, it's a shame. If you like a little sporty riding i think you might find the NC a little dull, I always thought it felt overweight for what it was rather than underpowered, that's partly due to the weak front brake i think. With your lady pillion it will start to struggle but if only for short trips it should be ok. I always say there are few bad bikes, it's just about matching your priorities closely to the different bikes, try and get some test rides if at all possible. Good luck!
i wish i had the opportunity for test rides,but where i live you can see some bikes to the dealers,and thats all.thanks for you feedback.enjoy your bikes and always safe!@@BikingChap
More than welcome, thanks for dropping by, maybe sit on as many as possible, maybe a Tracer 7? Then come back with any questions, happy to help in any way i can. Good luck!
@@BikingChap Not at all. You have a good, no-nonsense style of delivery. You're also articulate and obviously know your bikes. Best of luck with the channel 👍
As I always say, there are few bad bikes out there now, it's just align your priorities with the strengths of all the different bikes. I'm sure you'll love the Transalp, I certainly did! :)
They both can do it all but it different ways. On those long distances in the saddle is nice with those extra Japanese Transalp Ponies though.. But the brilliant DCT is a huge bonus..
Nice comparison BikingChap. I've recently bought a 2023 NC750 DCT with lots of pricey Honda add-ons (tall screen, heated grips, Honda rack and top box, wind deflectors, USB-C plug point, so similar in price to the Transalp in the end, which I did briefly consider. What I've ended up with is a well equipped, relaxing engined commuter/all rounder that will meet my needs every day and go well beyond when I want it too. I no longer want a revvy engine and don't need all that top-end excess for most of my riding... so much tech along the roads in the South East that I can't ride like I used to back in the day, so no point in having a bike that temps me to ride that way. And that is one of the main reasons I went for the NC instead of the Transalp. Oh, that and the frunk, the DCT, the lower more comfortable around town riding position, the fuel economy and the proven longevity. I had a Transalp in the 90s and that was more in keeping with the character of the NC today, not today's Transalp. These two bikes are now so different to each other they're not in direct competition with each other and appeal to different riders' needs and wants. Both lovely though!
Hi Steve, thanks for your kind words and I agree. The engines characters alone mean these bikes tend to suit riders looking for different things. As you'll know the NC is very flattering, calming and dare I say charming? The Transalp engine far more lively but maybe a bit wearing if you're not in the mood? The biggest oddity, and it's very much a 'what the market will bear' thing is that the Transalp is over £2,000 more than the Hornet. That's a lot for some fancier styling and wheels that aren't so good on tarmac imho.
This is exactly how I feel about mine. Question -how did you set up the USB-C plug? I'd like to do that on mine
I have had a CB500F 2022 (first bike after passing my test) and chopped it back in for a new 2024 NC750X. Nothing wrong at all with the CB500F other than stability on the motorways on windy days. Added a large screen and tank bag and realized I was turning my CB500F into its Adventure cousin the CB500X.
I do photography have have the camera I am using for the day in the Tank bag so the NC750X "Frunk" is going to be a god send.
The only gamble I am taking is that the NC will be more planted on the motorways and that I will have to wait until the 600 mile service is done.
Being still in my first year of a full licence my insurance rating stopped me getting the NT1100 which I still have my eye on to own in a couple of years, maybe.
Great comparison and I wish you well and safe riding.
Thanks Dave for your kind words. I found the NC very planted on the motorways, it's a pretty hefty bike, though i didn't run an aftermarket screen. I found the NT1100 quite a bit more intimidating and while much more powerful they do have a reputation for being a bit less than smooth off a closed throttle to the extent some ride them in rain mode, especially in town. As for the NC and it's frunk, just be careful with the camera gear because the temp in the frunk can get quite high. Good to hear from you, ride safe and enjoy yourself!
@@BikingChap Planted on the motorways is a good thing to hear as that is the main reason for the upgrade. Thank you for the heads up on the Camera idea.
I do not know how but I have saved £300 on the insurance getting a bigger bike lol.
@@davecarrera Just worth checking re the cameras, they might be ok but certainly not ideal for chocolate lol. As an added bonus the NCs are WAY easier to service than the 500s and no worse on fuel, enjoy!
Another excellent video! Thanks BC. I find the NC very enjoyable. The way the torque comes on from the bottom is very satisfying and yes, fun. Excellent handling too. It's also super cheap to run, easy to work on and will last forever.
Thanks for the kind words Robert, much appreciated! I agree with all your points and I should have included 'cheap to run' as well as to purchase in the NC's favour. Ultimately the Transalp is more focussed and if the extra performance is important, that's a good thing. However that extra focus does mean it's a less general purpose bike. It is more fussy in town, the front end isn't so sure footed in bends and DCT (if that's your thing) isn't available. As I always say it's all about want best suits your priorities rather than the faster bike simply being better!
Haven't tried TransAlp (not available in Dubai yet), but own a manual transmission 2021 NC. My wife came with me as a pillion passenger twice. She refused to come again. Her reasoning, you might ask, was two folds; it is a lot of work to keep upright back there, she complained. Then she dropped the main reason. Your bike is not expensive enough ( having seen 1250 GS in BMW showroom and Africa Twin in Honda's). I did my best to explain to her that my riding philosophy is of NC type. I said I could not relate to overly heavy and overly engineered bikes. I am a utilitarian and prefer my tools to be of the same character. Anyhow, out of curiosity I did test ride a GS as well as an AT. As for GS, I was very impressed with how nimble and manurable it was for its weight. Also the suspension was fantastic. On the other hand, I found that the power delivery was not to my liking at all. You need to rev the engine much more before you shift up with GS and AT. NC produces its max. torque at 4,750 RPM which makes a lot of sense to me. If you look at NC's torque, horsepower vs. RPM curve, both curves intersect at about 5k RPM. I seldom go above 5k. I shift up as soon as I can; that's my style. Naturally, if you rev above 5k, NC takes you nowhere, but GS and AT will propel you like mad. When I see into a mirror, I see traces of sanity rather than madness. If you wish to get much accelaration from NC, shift down and then rev to 5K RPM. Chances are your'll be pleased.
I think we are of the same mind! There are few engines like the NC around now, most are chasing high horse power figures at the expense of low / mid range drive. Maybe try the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio, lots of torque and I'm sure your wife will think it expensive enough :) Good luck!
@BikingChap Since you mentioned it, I did look at Moto Guzzi Stelvio specs. It produces its max. torque at 6,750 rpm, while NC does it's max. at 4,750. Guzzi has a compression ration of 12.6:1 while NC has it at 10.7:1 (low stressed engine). Also Guzzi has a stroke of 72 mm, while NC has it at 80 mm. Guzzi is 245 Kg while NC is 214 Kg wet.
I believe as regards NC, the combination of Longer Stroke, lower compression ratio, and the resultant lower rpm for its max. torque, and 30 Kg lighter, makes NC a much better bike for my liking. On the other hand, I cannot see myself riding that Guzzi with 2 very hot cylinder heads protruding from each side so close to my knees. Furthermore, reliability of Italian motorcycles, availability of parts, etc. is going to be worrisome too.
I think you're right, the NC is certainly a very hard act to follow :)
No offense but do you have a gold digger wife?
Yup....keeping the NC :). It just does what I need (even better after the suspension mods I hope).
Sounds like a plan, Keith :)
Fantastic delivery and format. Really enjoyed your thoughts on the two bikes :)
Thank you for the very kind feedback, it’s much appreciated. It’s hard to get two bikes together but I’ll try to do this more going forward. :)
I don’t have any experience of the NC but I’ve owned a Transalp for 5 months and having done 4k miles on it I think your assessment is spot on. Peaky engine but great fun, poor low speed fueling, great front end feel but the rear shock lets it down a little when you start pushing on a little. Cracking fun manageable bike that's competitively priced and whilst the components aren't the highest quality it still has that feel of a well put together bike that Honda always manage to pull off so well.
Hi Darren, thanks for the feedback. I think the bike is a great compromise, I really do. I tend to potter about most of the time and then have a blat once in a while and I loved that engine. Though some tester bemoan the relative lack of low end drive, I still don't think it's a deal breaker and it's just so characterful for a Japanese engine let alone a Honda! If i had deep enough pockets, I'd have one tomorrow.
Here on this side of the pond, cruisers are a big deal. Regardless of whether they are actually more comfortable, people buy cruisers for comfort and ease of riding. They have relatively low rpm engines tuned for low end grunt, a low seat height and relaxed demeanour. The NC is a cruiser for people who don't like cruisers and also without the physical limitations; like poor ground clearance and inadequate short travel suspension. What the NC retains is a very relaxed low rpm ability to travel or cruise. This ease of riding is especially great for those of us who are no longer young. I would love to have one.
That's a really good take on it, i think it's a mind set. The NC might not have the character of a Harley but it does that low rev grunt power delivery that some folk really enjoy. A great workhorse.
My sentiments too.
I have a 2015 NC750X going 140,000km in a bit. For already 8 years 7mths, this bike has not once given me any probs.
It's not comparable to Transalp. The right comparison would be the X-ADV750.
NC750X is just your daily Honda CB150 with a bigger engine. All the low maintenance, reliability there.
And my wife and I had gone on thousands of kms of roadtrips with full load in the frunk, side and rear panniers with speeds ranging from 150 - 170kmh. Takes about 280km before the fuel goes empty on the 14.1L tank. I'll take my fuel stop at the 160km mark to reach my destination which is a total of 360km with spare left for riding around Town.
On normal ride 90 - 110kmh, it'll reach 350 - 380km easily.
Can't imagine not having the frunk for my next bike.
I had a 01' Yamaha R1 in 2007 and comparing in power, 150hp vs 58hp, NC750X can't get you that speed thrill or 299kmh top end but it gets the job done from Point A to B.
I agree, ultimately it's a great, economical, robust and long lived bike. I hope its around for a good few years yet.
Thank you! I've been an NC guy for a good while now and was curious how they compared.
Thanks Marcus, glad it was of some use to you :)
I like both bikes...but the one I spent my money on was the NC. Simply no other bike out there that ticks so many boxes.
and that's exactly why they've sold so many of them and continue to do so, cracking bike!
Had 2 days hire of the nc 750x dct on the gran canaria , was impressed with the bike , 2 up around the twisties it was the bike to have . Then 1 day on the transalp , engine seemed harsh , not smooth pulling out of corners , taller , less frugal ...wasn't really happy with it . Funnily enough whilst 2 up on the nc we overtook the guy on the translap ,so must be more confidence on it too. Fan of the dct too now.
I found the NC unintimidating and very accessible, a true workhorse and the DCT suits it well. The Transalp is a slightly mixed bag I felt, in the Hornet the engine is characterful and encouraged you to thrash it. In the Transalp, with the same tune as the Hornet, it felt a little peaky and the performance less accessible, all a bit at odds with it's very easy going soft suspension I felt.
Thanks for the excellent comparison review of the two bikes BC,I hear & understand all the data you delivered & fully agree. I think come the spring I will head to my fairly local Honda main dealer (25 miles) & check out the Transalp,I really could do with some extra engine power and a lighter bike to manhandle out of the shed - NC dct is a lump. Not too keen however on the higher asking price combined with higher running costs and those tubed tyres.Taking out the demonstrator is a must,but of course it also depends on the deal in offered.
Thanks as ever for the kind words, John! The weight difference when punting it around the drive (as you can see, mine is on a slope!) is not huge but the amount of power is in another league and it's hard to believe they share the same capacity. Personally I'd like a cross between the Hornet road going manners (and tubeless rims) and the Transalp leg room, almost a Honda Supermotard 750 if you will. That would be a hoot. :)
Great review... i love my nc750x... seems like a diesel engine with all that torque...
Absolutely, it has the same characteristics as a car engine!
Transalp has better brakes, more suspension travel, more ground clearance, more power, and in the US these are about the same price. Only reason I'd get the NC is if I was unable or unwilling to shift manually.
Thanks for the comparison.
In the UK there's quite a difference: 7,949GBP for the NC (manual) and 9,699GBP for the Transalp. In reality I think they appeal to different market segments. The NC is a great commuter that is far easier to service and uses far less fuel than the Transalp that can also tour. The Transalp can also commute but it'll cost much more in fuel and potentially more expensive to service. As you say though the seat, brakes, suspension and particularly the engine are far better on the Transalp.
As a daily commuter the NC750X is probably the winner (convenience features it offers) but the Transalp 750 easily wins as a much better bike overall.
I think I'd sum it up as the NC is the bike you buy with your head, the Transalp, with your heart! :)
Totally true! Thx for this video.
@@pablosantiago6298 you're more than welcome Pablo, thanks for dropping by! :)
Way too heavy to be "commuter". And these vibration. I prefer Transalp (ugly, tub tires) but light
@@podunkman2709 I've never found the NC too heavy to commute on but sure if the trip is very short, perhaps in town only, a smaller scooter might make more sense.
It's rumored the NC750X is "half of a Honda Jazz/fit" 1,500 4 cyl motor. That's quite a good thing. Thus the overall performance goals were aimed more toward usability, efficiency, and reliability etc. I'm aware of NC750X examples with 100's of thousands of miles with nary a hiccup. The design goals/objectives and targeted customers very different group. I can appreciate both segments. But I suspect (especially given DCT) the two bikes will not cross over and steal each other's market.
Hi @sunrisejak2709 , I did a video a while back, specifically on the 'half a jazz engine' thing, you might want to take a look: ua-cam.com/video/yirAdaDXPGk/v-deo.html I tend to agree that there's not a huge amount of crossover and I think the lowering of the more recent NC model was a move to further differentiate the two models. Perhaps what we are seeing are people who like a bit of zip getting the NC and finding it a bit lacking then looking at the Transalp and thinking that'll be right up their street. Both great bikes, imho, but just suit different rider priorities, it's great to have a choice!
I really liked your explanations, which are very honest and without favoritism.But why do they still use these English measurements?
Hi, thank you for the feedback.! Going forward I need to remember that I have viewers outside the UK, especially the fuel consumption numbers, I'll either mention it in the commentary or in subtitles so as many people as possible can access the information :)
What a great review and comparison, currently on an NC and considering a change to the transalp. I haven't seen them side by side like you have in your video...would you say they are basically the same size (from a road presense perspective)? From the video, it actually appers as if the NC has a slightly larger look, but could be the camera angle.
Hi Gord, thanks for your very kind words, much appreciated! The camera angle is a bit deceptive here, the Transalp feels a bigger, wider bike at the bars but no heavier in honesty. It feels more like a lighter Africa Twin rather than a bigger NC if that makes sense. Without going over the video again, I'd ask yourself why you'd want to upgrade. At low revs the Transalp doesn't drive any harder than the NC really, its power is very much stacked in the upper half of the rev range but it's more comfortable, much better suspended and better braked, arguably it's the better looking bike too. It's not as practical though, it obviously loses the frunk and those wheels, whilst looking very nice, are still running tubes. Try and get a test ride and let me know what you think. :)
@@BikingChap I think it might be the new shinny thing more than anything else. After 30 years of riding across likely 15-20 bikes of all kinds, I do really enjoy the NC DCT. I had a puncture during a ride last fall, the nail was in the tire so I was able to make it back without any issues (slow leak) with tubed tires couldn’t have made it home. Will definitely test ride at some point.
Is the NC750X boring? I've watched a couple reviews that suggest this bike isn't fun. They call it a commuter for people who don't care about having fun.
It depends very much what your expectations are really. To some only a tuned RD350YPVS is fun, while i can have fun on pretty anything with two wheels and an engine. If you think of it like a modern take on a CB650 or NTV650 sans the shaft drive you'll not a millions off. If you love the way an MT07 rides then sure, the NC will seem a little dull but it's 270 crank and increased torque, if not power, make it a bit less dull than the 500 twins of old imho.
Yes. To put it simply, I bought one for commuting about 40 miles each way including maybe 30 on the motorway, but not once in nearly a year have I even considered going out for a ride on it just for the sake of a ride as I have with other bikes. As a commuter it's perfect, good mpg, cruises comfortably at motorway speeds, good weather protection, front storage is great for carrying chain/disc lock/water proofs etc without needing a top box, more than enough torque very low down makes it a breeze in the rush hour traffic, but just no fun in my opinion which is why I'm seriously considering replacing it, with the Transalp currently top of the list, took one for a test ride the other day and it's worlds apart if your idea of fun needs a bit of power and more revs. It's a great bike but I personally wouldn't call it a fun bike
@@Fromatic Yep, very much a bike you buy with your head rather than your heart.
I’ve been on a quest to find the perfect bike for me for many years 🤣. It’s got to the point where I have two bikes as there isn’t one bike that’s perfect for me. Right now I have a 2022 R1250GS and a 2018 X-ADV 750. I love them both. I reckon if Honda dropped a 100bhp motor and fitted cruise control to the X-ADV it would be the perfect bike for me. It works well having two bikes as when I get a little bored of one I simply ride the other more 🤣. Not sure what I’ll do when the GS is due for replacement next year as I really don’t like the look of the new 1300 GS, and I need a bike I like the look of. As things stand I reckon I’ll go with a RnineT as they have cruise etc. I did own a DCT NC for a few years, great bike but found it a little lacking 2 up (suspension & power).
Hi @TheDervMan, I agree, two up the NC750 weaknesses are amplified, the suspension and the lack of power particularly. The problem I'm finding these days is I quite like a middle of the road riding position and most models now have become more focussed in their particular niche. So those that had a touring bias are now full on tourers with weight and girth to match, ditto bikes that were a bit sporting have become extreme sports bikes. Even 'adventure' need a set of steps to get onboard now. For me a middle of the road sit up and beg chassis (but not 7ft tall adventure high) with the Africa Twin motor would be a good compromise, perhaps they could call it a CBF1100 ;)
@@BikingChap I’d love to spend a hour with Honda to understand why they make the decisions they do. They keep getting so close to the GS but miss one virtual thing.
I think time has sadly run out now. With a ban on petrol bikes around the corner in development terms we'll not be seeing the likes of a VFR1200 or Blackbird replacement now so the 1100 twin will have to cover touring and adventure duties, i just wish there was a 'road' varient.
@@BikingChapHi there. Perhaps the NT1100 😊 Greetings
@@bergindo absolutely, the NT1100 is a fine bike but it's having to cover all the bases historically covered by the Pan European, the CBF1000 and the Blackbird and it just can't do that convincingly in my book.
All Honda has to do is fit 19/17in tubeless wheels, better low down torque, 2cm lower suspension and cruise control.
That'll be a winner...
Indeed, a bit like what Enfiled did to the Himalayan to make the Scram411 :)
Nice comparison video. NC for me. I need the DCT to manage gears with a prosthetic leg.
Thanks for the feedback! I can imagine the DCT are a godsend if you have a prosthetic leg, good to see they have stuck with the system which so many appreciate. :)
@@BikingChapIts a wonderful invention. I alternate between taking out the two wheeled Honda NC750X, and my old timer Guzzi I-Convert sidecar outfit with its torque converter box. The all-round experience is a bit like owning a sports car and a truck. Love them both. There are still very few options that suit me. Nearly all Honda (kudos for that). Without an ankle I have to flat-foot, so the taller DCT models are out and even the NC had to be lowered beyond the standard kit. Thanks for all the videos.
@@amp2amp800 must be really frustrating but glad to hear you're still on two wheels, I've always fancied a Guzzi! I've taken a few months out but more video coming very soon! :)
other youtubes compared the nc750 with cb500xx; the additional weight is compensated by the additionsl power (only) so you get nothing extra over the 500x. Really need more power so any additional; from the Transalp would be a big plus. The NC is better with the low seat for driver and passenger.
Yes, I've compared the NC with the CB500x too. I think the CB is the better package unless you regularly travel at 60mph plus where the better screen and more relaxed engine become an advantage. Otherwise the cheaper price, better suspension and brakes and lower weight tip the balance to the CB.
good revieuw grts danny from belgium
Hi Danny, thanks for the kind words, glad it was useful :)
Also the Transalp looks brilliant but I simply couldn’t buy a new bike without proper cruise control as there as so many speed cams near me, cruise means it’s one less thing to fret about.
I think Honda particularly play the game of releasing a new bike with a few key features omitted only to do a model refresh a couple of years later where the facility magically appears. A bit like the initial very bland colour choice on the NT1100, this year we've got a stunning red for e.g. I bet the cruise on the Transalp will come too...
@@BikingChap good observation. I love DCT but there’s nothing that meets my needs in the Honda range. The AT is too off road biased and the NT is sooooooooooo dull.
I think we're on a similar page. A CB1100F maybe or CB1100RS with a retro thing going on if that's your bag.
@@BikingChap
Yeah that's Honda's stupid logic of updating bikes.
Makes you not want to buy in the first place.
I don't think it's just Honda. It seems now bikes have to either be full on 'tourers', 'adventure' bikes, 'cruisers' or 'sports' bikes. The old school UJM kind of bike seems to be vanishing sadly.
Afternoon .....so as a non owner of either bike my questions would be if the comparison was against a comparable bike like a KTM 790 Adventure how would the transalp stand up? I think there is a need for varying bikes for varying uses.....as mentioned by TheDervMan....thanks for the comparison and as always for the content.
Hi Adam, that would be ideal to get hold of a KTM but, sadly, I just don't have access to them currently. I think it would be a fascinating comparison and on paper they look to be close competitors. From what I read the KTM drives harder lower down and certainly looks more special but then which would I trust more from a reliability standpoint? Heart vs head decision maybe!
the NC Seat in Asia is lower 780-790 so hope the transalp can get lower also.
I wasn't aware of that, thank you. I'm sure it could be professionally modified if required.
i like the seat height on the 500x; less than 800; and leg room is greaet and seat is comfy; all that are off a bit on the transalp.
good price comared to others from yamaha, and far better than triumph.
I tend to agree, the 500x is very approachable and less intimidating for newer / shorter riders and pillions.
nice review but i think you have skipped over the main difference between theses bikes - that is the riding position. I admit to being only 5' 9" but having tested both bikes (on the same day) they were like chalk and cheese. the trans alp was a real struggle to get on and then ride as the engine seemed much more difficult to control than the NC 750. Personally i can't see anyone who is considering an NC 750 ever choosing the transalp.
Hi @chewitt6426 , thanks for the feedback and it's a fair point I didn't really call the differing riding positions. I think the difficulty in getting on the Transalp is down to the kicked up rear seat in the main. My 2018 NC has a seat height of 830mm, the Transalp is only 20mm higher but it feels significantly harder to throw a leg over.
The Transalp certainly is twitchy off a closed throttle but I did adjust to it quite quickly and RAIN mode made it very docile if you were a newer rider. Having been in the NC750X Facebook groups for a while now it's certainly an option that people keep talking about as a potential upgrade so while many are happy with the NC, those seeking a bit more get up and go may well consider the Transalp as a more manageable next step than the Africa Twin. Thanks again for feeding back!
I'm the flip side of that coin, the NC is now so low it's a one starter for 6 footers!
@@mickleblade at 6'2" I'm inclined to agree hence why I've still got the 2018 model :)
Does it have the power of any 750, 850?
I hear they are lower in Asia. Perhaps 1 tire size smaller or lower, somehow. I did not see any difference from the 500x
any way to get same seat height as on the NC ? to be 800m; smaller front wheel ? makes it harder for passenger to get on ; and fall off?
You could probably drop the forks through the yokes a little and fit different linkages at the rear, you can do this on the NC and i suspect manufacturers will, in time, produce something similar for the Transalp if they haven't already.
compare leg room ; seat height to pegs !! Passenger height on both ?
Thanks for the feedback, I'll look to include this in future reviews. There was marginally more room, seat to pegs, on the Transalp.
Seat is lower on the 750x. What's more comfy and controlled for a passenger?
Good question. I don’t think either excel from a passenger point of view but the NC in particularly struggles with a lack of go and firm seat. If you can test a Transalp and it’s not for you, I’d say you can safely discount the nc in that regard.
At least in Portugal nc750x pruce is almost the same as transalp...its a no brainer unless you are going to do more than 24000km per year and fuel consumption is a priority.
Really wow, as you say in those circumstances, no contest!
You can fit your helmet in that "frunk" compartment of the 750x. It's soooo soooo soooooo convenient! The Transalp has no such compartment. It would be a huge inconvenience from having one to not having one.
Good point, just check your helmet fits, some do, some don't. Even if the helmet doesn't fit, the frunk is still hugely useful and so much more convenient than a traditional tank bag!
It would be nice to publish the metric units.
A really good point that other viewers have flagged so yes, I'll includes those going forward, thanks for the feedback! :)
I leave work pretty frazzled….. the NC sounds perfect.
Absolutely @christianweller4288 , that's why they're such a popular choice for those commuting. A bit like the CX500 or NTV650 of old really, workmanlike and bulletproof rather than 'yeehah!' exciting :)
@@BikingChap ……. And of course a vast improvement over both of those. I never got to ride the original Transalp, would be interested in a comparison of old and new for say commuting rather than touring.
The original Transalp used the NTV motor but obviously with chain drive. Soft and reliable so very much like the NC in character and totally different from the bonkers engine in the new Transalp. A good reliable commuter / winter hack now if you can find a clean one.
What puts me off is tubed tyres
I tend to agree. I love the engine in the Transalp / Hornet and for me something a little less cramped than the Hornet or say 19" tubeless rims on a Transalp would be near perfect. :)
Useful, thank you.
Glad it was of help :)
Seems like the Transalp is a no brainer for riding two up on longer trips, but the NC would be the better choice as a daily commuter.
In honesty I don't either are at their best two up, both are going to be a bit cramped. The NC is more docile and chilled and the Transalp has a lot more power but I'd be looking for something with more low / mid range torque for regular two jaunts especially if over any distance.
@@BikingChap Any bikes in particular that come to mind around the same price point?
@@JakeyMikeySmithey better suited two up? That's a trickly one i have to say at a similar price point. I'd be tempted to look at the well regarded Vstrom 650, pretty good two up with an engine with much more power than the NC but not the relative peakiness of the Transalp. At this time of year and with the Transalp the one everyone's talking about, it might be the perfect time to snag a bargain.
You can stand on the left foot peg to mount the bike, no need for kung-fu gymnastics - especially with tall ADV bikes. It's the Transalp for me, life's too short to not have fun.
I think it’s the only way as I get older, though it’s much more approachable than the Africa Twin in that regard. It certainly is more fun than it has any right to be.
what year is that nc750??
@@Kenneth_McGrew Hi Kenneth, it’s a 2018 before they lowered the bikes.
great info
Thanks John, glad you found it useful :)
"Power" does not matter. As typical rider you use torque (most of guys think this is power😂). "Power" matters if u ride superbike, at high speed.
Transalp will deliver bigger joy of ride comparing to NC
On smaller bikes it matter more because you have to use all on the engine rev range, on bigger bikes like this, I agree. You have to be going pretty fast to need get to the higher power on the Transalp.
@@BikingChap Right
please do pov video with 40 to 80 comparison
Hi, I'd love to but don't have access to both bikes currently. Both would labour in 6th at 40mph but the most telling thing is that the torque is not that different between the two bikes. I did try to find power curves of both bikes but in short just as the NC is running out of puff, the Transalp is coming alive. If you like driving always from low revs you may find the the Transalp doesn't feel like a 90bhp motor but if you use more of the rev range, more often, the Transalp feel MUCH more lively. Also don't write off the new Suzuki 800 range, i hear they pull better low down than the Transalp for just a few less peak bhp, perfect!
yes, i know about the new suzuki paraller.but new vstroms are ugly and heavy,maybe the gsx8s would be good choise,but wind protection?i think transalp's motor is tuned wrong.in hornet make sence.but not in a tall on/off bike.anyway,so,for a little sport riding from time to time,in back roads,you think nc750 is good?also with my lady back you say its good for short trips?@@BikingChap
I agree that the new Suzuki's are ugly, it's a shame. If you like a little sporty riding i think you might find the NC a little dull, I always thought it felt overweight for what it was rather than underpowered, that's partly due to the weak front brake i think. With your lady pillion it will start to struggle but if only for short trips it should be ok. I always say there are few bad bikes, it's just about matching your priorities closely to the different bikes, try and get some test rides if at all possible. Good luck!
i wish i had the opportunity for test rides,but where i live you can see some bikes to the dealers,and thats all.thanks for you feedback.enjoy your bikes and always safe!@@BikingChap
More than welcome, thanks for dropping by, maybe sit on as many as possible, maybe a Tracer 7? Then come back with any questions, happy to help in any way i can. Good luck!
Nice one. Cheers mate.
You're welcome, hope it was of use!
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I rode once with a hangover ....... never again. 😬
Something you only do once i think... ;)
@@BikingChap Not pleasant at all. Great reviews, by the way. 🏍👍
@@martinrea8548 Thanks a lot Martin, they're a bit basic but I'm learning :)
@@BikingChap Not at all. You have a good, no-nonsense style of delivery. You're also articulate and obviously know your bikes. Best of luck with the channel 👍
@@martinrea8548 Thank you Martin, it really is appreciated, the sub too!
Ithink the manual nc is far far better
Than the DCT NC or the Transalp?
No dct, no interest. I'll stick with NC because of that.
They certainly have a big following! No I'm looking for a new bike, what next?
@@BikingChap I would like to see on your chanel MV Augusta Turismo Veloce. I will add one this year to my garage
@@motorhead16 I would love to have that on the channel to but it's hard to secure bikes to review when under a 1,000 subs, will do my best though!
If we talk about cruising and fuel efficiency, NC isn't economic on speeds above 90mph especially with side boxes.
True, but then that’s 20mph above the UK’s national limit and running nearly flat out. Fuel economy gets significantly worse beyond 60mph on the NC.
In summary NC = nice city/urban commuter. Transalp = 'Jack-of-all-trades'. Cheers. Order my Transalp. Life should be fun. 😊
As I always say, there are few bad bikes out there now, it's just align your priorities with the strengths of all the different bikes. I'm sure you'll love the Transalp, I certainly did! :)
NC
Pros: Price, DCT Option & Tubeless.
Cons: Power, Weight & Offroad Chops.
TA:
Pros: Engine, Suspension, Weight, Plenty Accessory Options & Decent Offroad Chops.
Cons:
Price, Tech Flaws, Tube Tires & Airfilter Access.
Conclusion:
NC: For Comuting.
TA: Touring & Offroad.
The Power Of Dreams ❤
Yep, wouldn't disagree with much there, though the NC tours just fine imho and will save you a bundle in fuel costs.
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They both can do it all but it different ways.
On those long distances in the saddle is nice with those extra Japanese Transalp Ponies though..
But the brilliant DCT is a huge bonus..
Absolutely agree! :)
Gas mileage!!
85mpg(imp) vs 65mpg(imp)