TWO HUGE MISTAKES I MADE WHEN I BOUGHT THE SONY A7RIII
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- I was so mad at myself when I realized these simple mistakes.. hopefully after seeing this you won't make the same mistakes! This is such an incredible camera but I wish I knew these things from purchasing.
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06:19 This is where he summarizes everything in just a few seconds. You're welcome.
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thanks...youtubers talk too much...
My man...mvp right here!
lol thanks a lot
Lol
@2:42 is when he explains the mistake
Not all heroes wear capes
Thanks!
Thank u man 😂
Ffs thanks!
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a lot of talking, no help
You didn't make a mistake shooting in 16:9. Even if you shoot 16:9, the camera still records the entire 3:2 sensor. Open up one of those 16:9 RAW files in lightroom, then click on the crop mode and you'll see what I mean. Even if you shoot a photo in 16:9 in camera, you can always change it back to 3:2 in post. You didn't lose any pixels.
Does the A7R III behave the same way in aps-c mode? It would be great if the entire frame was still in the raw file.
@@raksh9 unfortunately not, you can reverse the aspect ratio but once you go into apsc mode, there's no way of going back in post.
@@hothcook6528 Thank you, that's helpful to know. The Leica Q and Q2 still give you the full image when using 35mm and 50mm crop mode, but the Ricoh GR doesn't. Not sure about the Fuji X100F, I dont think it does.
Hoth Cook thanks a lot for talking about the mistakes, it was taking an ETERNITY for this guy to just tell what the mistakes where
8k is 7680 x 4320 = 33,177,600 = 33.1 Megapixels.
8k is 33.1 MP
Also
4k is 8.1 MP
Marques Brownly & Potato Jet (as well as other youtubers) have spread misinformation saying that 4k is 12 MP. 4k is actually 8.1 MP.
Now this is in 16:9 aspect ratio. Most photo cameras are 3:2 aspect ratio because that is what a full frame 35mm is. Therefore there is more height to the image. Meaning there is more rows of pixels on the sensor. Since there is more rows, you have more pixels. So you can conclude that you want a 12 MP 3:2 sensor in order to have enough horizontal resolution to exceed 3840, giving yourself enough room to crop in on the sensor for active stabilization (in video work).
By taking photos in 16:9, you are doing the equivalent of cropping off the top and bottom of the image. Which you stated that you wanted to do in editing anyway. So you weren’t loosing anything that you were going to use anyway. You still had enough horizontal and vertical resolution for an 8k video file.
The a7r iii sensor has a resolution of 7952 x 5304. When you shoot in 16:9 your resolution is 7952 x 4473.
You only need 7680 x 4320 for 8k video. So you still have room to crop in a little when editing your timelapse.
All that being said, i shoot in 3:2 because i like my timelapse to move a little in the video. Maybe add some artificial camera shake in the editor or key frame some pans.
Good video. I enjoyed it. Just wanted to leave this comment to help clarify what resolutions you said you were trying to shoot for.
I don’t understand why people are complaining about the long video ? If you people are so intelligent stop watching his video go somewhere else! Most of you people are just trash talking! Keep it up dude you are doing a great job 👏
Means the world, thanks so much for watching and the kind words!
The apsc mode is if you are using a crop sensor lens, as a crop sensor lens will create a circular image because they are designed for a smaller sensor. not to use that mode if you have a full frame lens.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the APS-C mode! And hey you can always go back there and re-do the time lapse project! 😬
Not if it was say an expensive trip and he may not be going back there.
Using the part of the sensor rather that the whole sensor would reduce the mpix count, how would it not? On a A7 3 you get 10 mpix in super 35 mode, and having the topic of the video come up after 40% of the video might night be the best idea
rofl, same, this guy can sure beat around the bush
Hi! Just set your camera on Raw+Jpeg. Raw will keep the complete information, including size. Jpeg... depending on your setting.
Hasn’t worked for me, but just my experience 🤷🏽♂️
For RAW files, this is true for aspect ratio (if you have a 16:9 file, just select the crop tool in Lightroom and you'll see the complete 3:2 image), but not for APS-C crop mode, which is baked into the RAW file.
Thank you so much Kevin for sharing your experiences, helpful video! God bless and good luck!
Well I thought it was interesting. I am 84 and still learning. I did know that going from 3x2 to 16x9 will down grade your image. There is no substitute for sensor size! Bigger is best! Thanks, 😊
@Kevin Eassa Why did you not go for the A7riv?
I actually made a video on this! But the 3 was just a better fit for what I needed!
I would always shoot in the maximum quality the camera offers i.e. 42 M. However, if you want to create 16:9 picture, then you always have to crop the picture hence degrading the quality of the picture. So there will always be quality loss, whether you crop inside the camera or in post processing (thus the method I prefer)
Thank you for informing us about the mistakes you made so that we won’t make them
The a7riii is one of the best cameras of the last 10 years. In that price range
Absolutely, we have gotten sooo much use out of ours
Thank you, I am glad i watched this video, i was wondering whats going on?
You should of mentioned the correct aspect ratio you should have been set at.
you're right, I thought I did. I need 3:2, but I was mistakenly shooting 16:9 the first week of this camera
Great notations, I wouldn't have known with the aspect ratio. I plan on buying this camera in the next couple of weeks
Glad I could help! You're going to love it!
Many “features” merely look attractive, but actually has limitations, which makes many of such features superfluous…virtually of little effective use.
Eg:
You can engage Mode A, but certain functions are no longer available in Mode A.
Or, you can shoot 4K, buts its significantly cropped.
Or many features are unavailable when you shoot high frame rates.
Its an endless list.
All contributing towards a hugely extensive menu system which gives the impression of a feature laden camera thats over-priced.
Why would you ever, ever, ever think that shooting in cropped sensor mode would give you more optical zoom? Aren't you supposed to be like a pro??? Wouldn't you inherently know that all you're doing is cropping the sensor which give you absolutely zero extra zoom????? Holy crap man.
OMG was this suppose to be a resume video? It took wayyyy to long to start explaining why we clicked on your video. Get to the point next time. No disrespect intended.
Thanks I got mine almost one year ago. And I’ve made this mistake over and over
Small mistake, but an annoying one unless you know it. Thanks for watching!
If you're going to crop your timelapses to 16:9 to match your videos, your second "mistake" isn't actually a mistake. You might as well crop to 16:9 in camera as the extra megapixels top and bottom will eventually be lost surely?
So you’re not wrong at all. But even so, when I am photographing I don’t like to in 16:9 ratio, so between timelapses if I take stand-alone images they are too wide for my liking. Also the extra aspect ratio allows me to crop in much more and key frame my timelpses to my liking without being limited
Yes you are going to crop out the pixels to get to 16:9 but you get to chose in post, which has saved my time lapse more than once.
Just got mine. Thanks for the tips mate!
For sure! Thanks for watching
Hi actually i have purchased a7riii a camera 6 months back and i am a wedding photographer. When i capturing ground photo in wedding with my a7riii and if background have any lights or bright then my camera focusing on back side of the background. It have a back focus issue when background have any lights or brighter then background. Is it problem in my camera or it is common on sony cameras
Thank you I’ve made the same mistakes & Sony menu system is a nightmare
Simple mistake! Happens to all of us. Thanks for watching
I have another question for you what is the largest size Chris that you have made with your song system
you can take photos with the 'S' series of sonys, is that a huge mistake?
you can, but the S series is a camera made primarily for video
Aren't you losing the same pixels by cropping to 16:9 in post?
yes but the added pixels allows you to keyframe, resize, and position the frame with added flexibility
@@KevinEassa So why did you even think that switching to 16:9 in camera would help with anything?
Cool !
Thanks!
Yeah I'm Using R7 for TimeLapse and Landscape Shoots
Hi Kevin thanks for this video. In watching you show the aspect ratios and pixel count in the menu settings. In looking at my same settings my camera doesn’t show 42megapixels it only shows L:18M. M:11M & S:4.5M. There is no 42M what the camera should be. Only just brought the camera second hand but works fine. It is the Sony A7RIII. Can you help?
Your camera is on APS-C/Super 35mm mode. You need to turn that to "Off" so that it stops cropping in and you can use up to your 43MP
Awesome review! Thank-you!
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the tip!
Used A7riii or the new r7?
Thanks I was making the same mistakes....
Thanks for this! I’m using the 7riii too but I’m a bit of a noob and struggle to get good colours with nature photography. Would love to know the settings for picture profiles you recommend shooting on! Thanks so much.
thank you so much I did not know this, your awesome
Thank you Betty! Thanks for sharing!
very informative, much love & thanks for the insight.
Thanks for watching!
Ah dude......your second point is null and void. Changing the aspect ratio only changes the JPEG files aspect ratio, hence why it states 36MP in the JPEG image size. When you load the RAW images into Lightroom, they will display as 16:9 (which is the ‘AS SHOT’ setting) but if you set the crop size to ‘ORIGINAL’ I’m 99% sure the whole 3:2 image will be there.
Sadly it’s not. Unless you shot it 3:2 with the full 42MP, you won’t get all that info
@@KevinEassa I think you’ll find you are wrong on this mate. The only time the resolution of the raw file is changed is if you use super35 mode which is a mistake you’re already familiar with. I suggest you test this yourself. All the raw data is their, it’s only affecting the jpeg. Just like when you shoot pictures when the camera is in s-slog or a different picture profile other than OFF. The JPEG will look like s-slog or the currently selected PP but the raw images are unchanged. Just try it for yourself mate. Just change the setting in the crop tool in Lightroom from ‘AS SHOT’ to ‘ORIGINAL’
I’ve tried but for me it doesn’t do that. Maybe because I don’t shoot JPEG+ RAW, I only shoot raw. Again this is just my experience with it
@@KevinEassa If you use 16:9 in RAW, just hit R in Lightroom and you'll see the full, 3:2 image appear in the crop view. It's the same on my A7R iii and A7 iii. In APS-C crop mode, the crop is baked in and you can't recover the data. I don't shoot JPEGs either, just RAW. Not sure if this has always been the case - perhaps there was a change in firmware at some point?
Would have been better if you showed the clips you refer to. Remember it's video not Radio. But thanks for sharing.
How old are you? 5? trashing a camera because its 18mp in aps-c mode? really? and is only 36mp in 16:9? and the image is not clean or good in 18 mp?
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What do you use for your time lapse?
Man, cmn. U spend 7min for thing what u can explain at 20 sek? and why A7Riii? its can be any camera with APC mode. This is you personal mistake. Its like saying, "ooo dont buy crop lenses for FF " - wtf
5:50 you say 36MP is under 8k but it isnt. an 8K image is 33.2MP
Time-lapse photographer? I know about time-lapse photography but didn't know that you could be a professional time-lapse photographer. You learn something new every day. Speaking of learning something new, perhaps I can enlighten you as well. The crop mode on your A7RIII is an image coming from the cropped area of the sensor. It is no different than if you were shooting in full-frame mode and then cropped the image to match the framing of a crop sensor image in post. That part you got. What you may not be clear on is this mm equivalent nonsense.
1. The lens does not magically turn into a higher magnification lens. Your 50mm lens remains a 50mm with the same compression and same depth of field for the given aperture. Where people get confused is when you try to match the framing between an APS-C camera and a full-frame camera using different lenses and/or standing at different distances from the subject in order to match the framing (i.e. changing the depth of field which is impacted by aperture setting, the focal length of the lens, and distance between camera and subject). For example, let's say you want to have a similar framing for a model, so you first use an A6400 with a 50mm lens and then, from the same exact spot with the model at the same distance from the camera, you then use your A7RIII with am 85mm lens. The "framing" will be similar (though not the same). That is, the size of the model in the center of the picture will be the same/similar, but the rendition will be different in terms of compression, depth of field, and field of view (what you capture on the borders of the image as you use different focal lengths). The full-frame shot will have a more compressed view from front to back, will have a narrower field of view, and shallower depth of field for the same f-stop because you have a higher magnification lens on the full-frame camera. Conversely, the APS-C shot will be less compressed from front to back, will have a greater depth of field because of the wider focal length, and will have a wider field view of the subjects on the borders.
Now, this is super important, and where most get confused...if you were to take the same picture again from the same distance, but this time using the same 50mm lens on both cameras, and then cropped the full-frame shot in post to match the framing on the crop-sensor image, you would end up with the same exact image (except for the quality of the cropped image, since you are losing megapixels). That is effectively what you are doing when shooting a full-frame camera in crop mode, except that you are doing the cropping in-camera as opposed to post (I won't go into the differences between cropping the sensor image or the image in post as that would take us into a much deeper rabbit hole. For purposes of this illustration, let's assume those have the same exact effect).
2. That brings me to point number 2. The reason your crop-mode images looked degraded is because the crop mode in a full-frame camera is effectively throwing away pixels. So why is it that an APS-C sensor isn't doing the same thing? That's because that sensor has more megapixels crammed into that smaller crop sensor area. For example and A7III has 24 megapixels on a large sensor. An A6400 has the same number of pixels, but on a smaller sensor (I'm not going to get into pixel pitch and pixel size for the purpose of this explanation or this will go on forever). So if you crop your A7III shot to match the framing of the A6400, you are in effect degrading the quality of your picture far more than if you had shot it with the A6400 because it is using its full 24 megapixels.
Now, this is where it gets interesting. When using an A7RIII in crop mode, which has 42.2mp in full-frame and about 18mp in crop mode, the crop mode shot doesn't result in that much of a difference compared to an A6400. Yes, there is still a 6mp difference, but that won't be as noticeable unless you crop the heck out of the shot in post after shooting in crop mode (think of it as first cropping in camera and then cropping again in post). Contrast that with the A7III which reduces the quality to 10mp in crop mode. Now you are talking about a difference of 14mp, which is definitely more noticeable. You can still get great images with 10mp, but your ability to crop in post will be substantially limited compared to the same crop shot from an A7RIII. Now the A7RIV solved this dilemma by providing you with 26mp in crop mode. As such, the A7RIV has more megapixels in crop mode than the A6400 has natively. So if you have an A7RIV, you effectively have a full-frame camera and an APS-C camera all rolled up into one body.
Hi my laptop is i7 and 16gb of ram is that suitable for this camera? are the files huge?
Always depends on what you're shooting, whether photo video or both, hobbyist or professional, etc. The photos are about 42mb each, and videos are standard size based on length of clip and the resolution you choose in camera
18mp is actually a lot.. coming from mft system xd
For sure, new crazy TVs and systems allowing for way more though! I wonder how high it will get
8k is only 33 megapixels anyway so what's the deal?
Wow…… I’ve had mine in super 35 for ever…. I’m an idiot. Thanks
Huge mistake I made was buying the A7RIII. Your video came up when I was searching how to connect to the PC. I have watched over 7 videos with issues on connecting, and I still cannot connect...Settings on the camera PC remote, USB tether, update firmware 3.1, update Edge, Even tried the independent remote as last resort. Rebooted.....NOTHING...Everything works, like the PC recognizing the USB connection, BUT the crap software will not find the camera as I double click the camera it sees in the list. I even cleared the settings and still nothing. I tested the cable, and it works on my other cameras. So with this, and the SD slot being picky, and the ergonomics being horrible to painful for large hands, and the setting wheel is super easy to change by mistake, and the back buttons hard too recessed for backbutton focusing..... Geez did I make a mistake buying this crap!! I was promise all the issues I had with A&R2 would be fixed with this. Yes, it was faster, and it was able to focus, and the lens mount was not sloppy loose like the R2, but....this thing is more a toy than a professional camera. Yes, I LOVE the sensor, but that's about it.
Try different usb leads, I tried 2 or 4 before it worked. They all looked like they were connecting, but just hung
@@ronvangorph1440 Yes, it actually worked with a different USB cable. Thought that was standard by now. Picky cables, picky SD card reading, Thank goodness it focuses and has a nice sensor, that I am starting to dislike for all the reds and yellow issues. It really doesnt have a good color default. So I need to tweak the files. I payed good money for it, so I am gonna keep working with it.
@@philindeblanc glad you could connect
WoW.. for someone who talked so much you ended up saying very little.. and took your time to get to the point..
Thanks for the tips, but this video could have been 1 minute
Which camera did you use for this video?
Talking about the R3 but filmed on the a7iii
@@KevinEassa I don't know if this is too much to ask, but please I'm want to shoot fitness videos on UA-cam and I like the a7iii. please as a professional videographer, can you tell me all the camera equipments I need to get started and start off strong on UA-cam? thanks.
My God get to the point and stop repeating yourself.....
you don’t have to be so negative the video was very informative be constructive i suggest you stick to a script or write out a rough guide of what you want to talk about
@@scratchman21 Shut up.
@ShaneP less meat more veggies also cut the sugar. your BP will thank you
OMG.. if you had read the manual, it would have told you that the mp would be diminished in those settings.
Actually APS-C mode doesn't have "worse" quality at all, actually it's more of the opposite. Lenses are always the sharpest in the center so if you're using a full frame lens and shoot in APS-C mode you only use a center portion of the sensor, so your image is sharper (as if you would just crop a center part of the image out). Also don't confuse resolution with quality. 8K doesn't have a better quality than 4K, it just has a bigger resolution. If you had an 8K sensor but a very bad lens the image would still not look sharp, whatever you do. That's worse quality.
Sounds like he is saying the resolution is much lower, even by aps-c standards. Sure the lens is the sharpest there, but if he is worried about resolution, then why not use an aps-c body like the a6600. When viewing something in motion, no one is going to pay attention to resolution. So, 18mp will probably be just fine. I've done some time lapse on my a6600 and it looks great watching storm clouds moving. I'm not pixel peeping at that time.
what's your opinion on a a7riii vs the new a7iv. im into shooting photos for modeling/car scenes. thx
also streaming like on twitch
TLDR: a self-procliamed full time landscape/timelapse photographer doesn't know megapixels decrease in crop mode and 16:9 ratio. Just saved you 7 min 24 sec. Now I wish I could get MY 07:24 I wasted watching this time-wasting admission of ignorance.
poor boy he lossseee so much pixels
Wrong Title!
I must be getting better cause your Mpix issues are so self-evident to me... or maybe it's people getting worse with numbers, mainstream media culture sure doesn't help.
Just rtfm 🤔
Get to the point god damn
Canon R6 - so many rave about it - very new camera - Full Frame - Yes 20MP - so 18 is enough for lots of work - online for sure - so very handy to have this option -
and yes how often do we not crop in post. - and yes we are lowering MP count just like the Camera does -
The very Popular Nikon D3 pro camera had 12MP Nikon D4 pro has 16MP Nikon D5 a $5000 camera had 20MP and the Nikon D6 is 20MP - photography is not all about MP - for video Sony A7s III. is what 10 or 12MP and a pro camera - one of the most used camera for video work is the Panasonic Lumix GH5 which is a Micro Four Thirds sensor and 20MP - High MP is good for particular photography but for video not an advantage
three and a half minutes in, and you still haven't mentioned one of the two "mistakes". This is such a typical click bait video where you just talk in circles and don't really get anywhere. Please get out of my feed.
Good video, however, the first 2 minutes is waisting my time
Sorry to hear that, just giving my thoughts
7 minutes wasting time for explain problem can be made in 30 seconds 🤦♂️
7 Minutes bla bla for 2 obvious settings that can be mentioned in 10 seconds. Good example why YT is more and more a waste of time, mainly because of such click bait youtubers.
Sorry you didn’t like it
i love and i use your mistake ....hahahahahahahaha...
to each their own hahaha
get good sound in you vedeos. I can not listen to this :(
i think it's great, sorry you didn't like it
@@KevinEassa well, it is not great ! Dont use built in mic, in the camera ! and dont sit too far.....its not matter of "like" or not. Its not professional. get a RODE Videomic Pro,,,,,,,,,
Much ADO about NOTHING
Sorry you didn’t like it
could have been a 3 sentence blog post thanks for the useless vid!
useless vid..
Am I tripping? Your head looks super imposed to your body.
cool but I shoot everything on my iphone