Cheapest Electric Car Tariff For Home Charging (2023)
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2023
- It's that time of year again! Which tariff for an EV owner is the cheapest right now?
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White board white board on the wall, who is the most helpful Yorkshireman of them all
Thankyou, really appreciate all the work you put into these videos, great content Andy 👍👍
Very useful to see thank you EVM 👍
Hi,
I just wanted to say a massive thank you for your work on UA-cam
In early 2022 I convinced my wife to watch your video on home batteries, since watching that we have systematically invested in a GivEnergy battery, solar panels, an Eddi and finally last week took delivery of our first EV.
(a second hand mg5 which we are granny charging for a while with a GivEnergy smart plug on our economy 7 style tariff and solar when possible).
Without your help and knowledge and a little bit of good timing, we would have been blissfully ignorant of the benefits and would certainly be literally burning our wages to keep warm and mobile!
I don’t know if this message will ever get through? But don’t sweat the haters! You’ve made a positive difference for a little family in Kent
Thanks again. You’re a great fella!
Stuart 👍
That was very helpful. Thank you very much. Best regards, Martin
I charge my house batteries and Tesla on Octopus Go, almost never use any peak electricity now
Me to, same scenario
Do you only have batteries and no solar panels as I thinking of just getting only batteries
@@LC-km9kp we have both but looking back we could have got away with just the batteries and gone for 10Kw instead of just 5Kw plus solar…..all I could afford as there’s no grants or anything from HMG
@@LC-km9kp 10kwh of batteries and 5.67kw of panels
@@stevenbarrett7648 thank you I am thinking about a 10Kw to 15Kw max batteries,I was Contemplating solar panels but not sure if it’s worth the outlay atm
Thank you very much for the spreadsheet. Very useful. Just noticed a couple of formula errors I think for Ovo and British Gas calculations - the peak and off peak costs were calculated off the total month usage rather than the peak/off peak usage. Although, I think the Ovo one is because they don't offer house off-peak.
Good summary for average users. For those like myself and many others the Solar/ Battery storage makes further savings. Personally in winter I only use the cheap tariff to charge batteries & power house with load shifting, using the daily rate is not nec for the most part. We only installed this in Dec and even now we are finding on some days we don’t even need to charge the home battery overnight as the house and battery is using Solar during the day, only the EV is charging at night sporadicly. The savings are quite remarkable. We do export a little but not much, our system was calculated to minimise Energy usage ( Grid ) and it is certainly doing that
Just moved over to Octopus intelligent from Go. 39p and 7.5p for 6hrs. Has dropped alittle to what I was being quoted last month. Mega high usage at 17,333 kWh usage last year. Have solar, heat pump, electric van and electric car.
Great summary. I’m currently enjoying Flux with a generous amount of export at the moment, but will need to do some calcs again if I get an EV at some point in future, so will probably make use of the spreadsheet. Thanks. 👍
I used this great information to decide that it was worth swapping to Octopus. Thank you Mark, i used your referal so hopefully you get a little kick back as a thanks for what you do.
Great video, Octopus Intelligent work's for me.
Thanks, a good explanation on Whiteboard of Truth. Batteries with PV or just Batteries and Off \peak even without PV is a game changer. I do about 8,000 EV miles pa and have PV and Batteries. In March this year on the 4 hours of Octopus Go I achieved 97.5% Off-Peak whereas the best I achieved before Batteries was 55% Off-Peak. As of end-of-April I'm on Octopus Intelligent (having changed my EV to a compatible EV)
We have intelligent octopus, ev solar, home battery and heat pump. Average rate for April was 12.22p per kWh. Very happy with that
Can you use IO for other things during off peak - like charging batteries or heating the hot water cylinder, or do they know that the use is not from the car and charge you leak rates?
@@simonthompson15 electricity use is electricity use. How would that know what went to the car versus the oven or tumble dryer?
what ev do you have? octo intelligent has quite limited support
@@akf2000 an Enyaq
Thanks for the Octopus Code, just signed up
Cheers Andy. I’ll take a look at the spreadsheet. I’m on octopus 🐙 day/night tariff as I’m on a granny plug over night so need the longer window. I bought into Ripple so got £47 last month for wind power - always another way to offset the prices 🤣👍 hope you get lots of referrals 💰 you deserve it.
Great video. As you say the assumptions are general. The input I would have for others is even with intelligent octopuses bigger timeframe for charging, if you're high milage intermittently so need large charges often (rather than daily top ups from a long commute) the OVO charge window has never failed to get me to 100% in one night on the low rate.
Another helpful video- thank you. For those of us with Solar and battery intelligent seems a no brainer if not interested in export. I am not interested in exporting as i have FIT on my 4kWp solar that i have had for 9 years now- using what i generate and storing cheap rate is the goal for me. Slightly cheaper than Go on the off peak but the big bifference will be winter time and an extra 2 hrs to charge battery, heat water, load shifting etc. Need to work out now if the extra 2hrs of off peak will mean i dont need to consider a bit more battery power or if the extra 2 hrs charging time will actually mean some extra battery is storage is a good idea. currently have 10.6kWh that i can charge at just over 3 kWh (after losses) adding another 5.6kWh would mean the whole capacity could be filled over ther 6 hr period.
If you don't have battery storage and aren't doing loads of EV miles Agile is currently decently priced if you can avoid the 4-7pm higher price window. It'll be the first to drop as the prices come down as well, but the current daily average (Inc peak 4-7) is about 20p/kWh
Just switched from go faster to intelligent. Worth it alone for the cheaper night rate and the additional hour. Could not quite fully charge the home battery from 0% to full in the 5 hour window but will be able to do so in the 6 hour window. Could possibly add another 2kw or so of battery as well.
Solar, home battery and EV all working well together to save us money. We saved £700 over 3 months of Winter on just home elec use. Our elec direct debit has been set at £0 since September and we have gained £180 of credit ☀️⚡️👍🏻
We have a similar tariff to this one, with a different name. Massive savings over the standard tariffs, Octopus wouldn't let me set ours to zero, so we used £1 instead during the Winter. Our credit balance is now being trimmed gently each month.
@@RWBHere - Octopus set our DD to £0 without us even asking 🤩
I was playing with all of these sums yesterday as my TEP with Octopus was at an end. I have now switched over to Intelligent Octopus as my bills will only be £20 per month extra than when I paid 11.76p per kWh. My home uses average of 27kWh per day!! Before TEP I managed 85% night rate use when I was on an Economy 7 tariff. So should be very similar for new one. I also am doing about 10,000 miles in my EV, so 2500kWh per year. ASHP around 2200kWH that I have assumed at day rate. I only charge overnight or from spare solar.
I to am a very high user with very similar figures to you, I have switched to Octopus Intelligent mid march. My estimated annual cost has reduced from £7200 on the capped rate with Scottish power to £2600 per annum with octopus. I am a heavy EV user and do about 30k miles per annum. Great I fo EVM. If I saw this sooner I would have used your link, so we both missed out there.
Just also checked average ppKwh, 11.2p per Kwh average.
The unintended consequence of engaging with these technologies is the improvement in your arithmetical skills.
Well I've had my MG4 since the beginning of January and I've just hit 9k miles in those 4 months , still trying to get my home chargepoint installed so I can sort out this time of day tariff stuff
Great explanations Andy. But I'm not finding the link for the spreadsheet. I'm in Texas so not as specific as your examples, but I'd love a headstart on the excel spreadsheet.
I’ve got a small holding with a 3 phase supply. I’ve got outbuildings that have there own address so 2 phases are connected to the buildings and 1 is to an EV charger only through Octopus. I don’t have to pay any peak rates as there not Octopus and will shortly be extending the EV circuit to include all the hot water tanks. This won’t suit everyone I know but if you you can get 3 MPAN numbers you’ll save loads !
Plus, with Octo-Intel, if you let them make a charge plan and you tell them you don’t need car till 10am you can still get cheap rate if they go past the 5.30am deadline👍
My octopus go cheap rate now 9.5p, still savings to be had but nearly double the 5p it used to be not so long ago. Would love the solar/battery install but the upfront cost at moment is just too prohibitive but would prob help as we have two EVs.
Signed up with your referral link, no EV yet (next car hopefully) but have solar and will probably move onto their Flux tariff :)
Here is my situation - Residential Park home with maximum 30amp supply incoming. So, no 7Kw home charger for me. However, we have a flat rate of 16p per Kw which has worked well with the 2KW (10amp) 3pin granny charger
Still getting to grips with when I'll be charging as I work some night shifts so switched to OVO for now. Currently doing 20000 + miles aboard Gary Neville.
Would appreciate a video on motorway Vs b roads in terms of consumption.
good video :), I recently switched to octopus intelligent, from octopus Go as I often need to charge more than 4 hours per night due to high mileage and poor efficiency
Great video just shopping around now, do you think Octopus Go tariff will go up or down in price after July 1st...?
I’m waiting for a summary or some statements as my folks sort the energy bills currently so looking forward to seeing what I can do with the spreadsheet then but I’m a bit apprehensive as currently our house has 6 people, consisting our family of 4 and my retired parents. Due to my bad health there is nearly always 3 at home all day every day and our usage is currently very minimal at night and not a lot could realistically be passed across to the low rate from the high rate. Due to the circumstances we cover half of the general energy bill each for the household so the possibility of the day rate being a bit higher to save on charging at night becomes complicated as I can not expect them to pay extra so I can run my car for less but it would be very frustrating to be stuck paying extra to run my car because of the higher than normal daily usage of the others. Do you have any suggestions on ways to work around this situation?
Would appreciate any advice on where to start as I’m fully new to owning an EV and how these tariffs work!
I live in south west 🇬🇧 , my peak rate ( 07:00 - 21:00 ) is 53.6p and my off peak ( 21:00 - 07:00 & all weekend ) is 13.2p . EDF .
Im the lucky that I switched to EDF on a fixed 24 month contract at 4.5p / KWh, 4 hrs off peak (I've another 13 months to go) - I use around 600KWh / month 95% off peak (60% on car, 40% house), through energy shifting - so its about £40 / month, but I was getting £66 / month back from the government - what a crazy system we have!
Same here EDF at 4.5p off-peak but I get 5 hours locked in april 22, expired april 24 peak rate is 37p and I use off-peak 95% of the time with battery storage.
Octopus tracker all the way for me. I've been on it for about 4 months and never paid more than 20p/kwh and more often than not, it's around 17p. A couple of days ago it was 14p
Had quote from Intelligent octopus... 6hrs at Night @ 7.5/kwh and the day rate at @ 29.78/kwh, the day rate is the same as my current British Gas Tariff, so it s a no brainer! although it seems you need to have an Ohme charger to be accepted on to the tariff
I’m on go, I load shift as much as I can (no battery or solar) my average rate is 13p per KWh. We use nearly 10,000 Kwh’s per year 😝
I’m a week in at the moment With Scottish Power EV tariff ,despite clarification we are still on the day rate. I’m ringing them today 🤞
Hi Andy.
Just watched your video. I’very signed up to octopus and goes live in two days. Can the referral link still be used, if so, how does it work?
Thanks
Alan
No access to spot price (day-ahead prices from Nordpool) based products in the UK? Here in Denmark we have that as a possibility (actually we have no time-of-day products on the electricity price, only spot or prices fixed for each quarter). We had 4 hours of almost free electricity this afternoon (sunny and national holiday in DK) so only costing the transmission cost of £0,07 per kWh. Our cost is the electricity price + transmission cost + electricity tax/duty (which is suspended until June 30.). Spot price of electricity varies between 0 and £0,2 - so it is completely impossible to know what the monthly bill will end up at.
Did you manage to fill your battery in the 4hr Go window? I’m surprised you didn’t move to IO sooner 😊
what you said about octopus intellegint isnt quite correct. you are guarenteed the minimum of the 6h window. but if you set it up correctly you will get the cheap rate when you plug in. example i plugged in on sunday afternoon 4pm it sent me a schedule saying its chaging stright away 4pm to 7pm. so in that window im getting the cheap rate of 7.5p kwh through the house.
I have a Tesla M3 with LFP batteries. These must be charged to 100% regularly so that the batteries recalibrate. I've found that normally the car continues to ' charge' even when at 100% and the current draw gradually drops during this time, which is when it's calibrating. I'm now on octopus intelligent and find that as soon as 100% is reached, charging stops immediately and the normal slow wind down doesn't happen. I'm worried that this is not giving the BMS the opportunity to recalibrate. I actually put the car back in charge in the morning and it takes another 1kwh and appears to then go through the balancing process. I'm worried that this problem is not generally understood or talked about. Any thoughts?
Fire safety officers probably won't like your suggestion to use the tumble dryer while asleep, and my wife doesn't like the idea, but we do use the washing machine overnight to benefit from cheap Octopus energy. Try to use the solars in the summer.
The only time we accidentally use peak energy is if we have too many appliances on that the Powerwall can't cope with.
I often feel like Jim Lovell - Apollo 13 - ballancing daytime load with solar production and battery capabillity to fil in thr gaps. i changed our kettle to a 1kw one designed for caravanning, losing the extra 2 kW has made a huge difference. we hardly ever need to boil more than 2 cups of water so the extra time is not really a problem
Use a heat pump drier overnight like I do. No electrical heating element.
Weirdly enough as I don't have a smart charger and only a Nissan 30kWh we charged for 5 hours a night (go Faster) at 0.055p a kWh, the new Go rates even at 0.095p a kWh, is more expensive than Agile...
We'd also probably need an hour or so more per night at the expensive rate charging at about 2.2kW from the wall.
Bill for Go est - £137.53 a month inc standing charge.
Bill for Agile est - £106.57 inc standing charge
So we have jumped for the moment
Im on ovo charge anytime (links to one car only) do 6000 miles per year. In process of getting second EV which will do 10000 miles per year. which tarrif is best to go on? I get confused with all the different octopus tarrifs.
We would really love to convert a E van to a camper, however the cost and the range is putting us off and swaying towards a cheaper diesel. Do you think its worth buying a diesel these days?
Everybody's numbers are different of course. My house energy is 40% of yours and insulated up the wazoo. Summer house consumption around 0.7KWh per day (thanks to solar). EV consumption just over 4miles/KWh. Mileage quite a bit lower. Octopus is brilliant even if on the GO tariff. The dishwasher does not have a timer so it going to get the heave ho. Keeping bills small numbers can become obsessive after a while.
I wonder if anyone has setup a heatpump to heat up a tank of water during the night tariff, and then uses that tank of hot water to provide heating during the day. It doesn't seem too difficult to configure, even if it was less efficient, it will still give huge cost savings over a daytime tariff.
Tank would be massive. About 2000litres in my case. Just use a heat pump run off a battery like I do.
Would you say. If I’m still on a decent fixed tariff of 20.40p kwh until Oct 2024, that I prob should remain on that tariff ?
How are you finding the Intelligent Octopus tariff? I had an email from Octopus yeaterday saying thay are doing away with the various Go Faster options so i need to decide whether to go with Intelligent or the regular Go tariff
Hello evm with octopus intelligent can I still charge car on solar in the sunny days?
I'm trying to estimate my possible future cost if I move onto Intelligent Octopus - by using usage data from my current Octopus Go usage history. Does anyone know of any software / app that I could use to import that historical data and give me a view as to potential future costs?
Should clarify with the 3.5miles per Kw that that is the charging rate, rather than the efficiency reported by your EV at the end of a journey (pre recharge). Otherwise you need to factor in losses to charging. E.g. it takes ~11kw to charge my car 10kw, the car may say I did 4miles per kw, and thus 40miles from that 10kw’s used, but it’ll ‘cost’ me 11kw to recharge the battery back to full, so the efficiency taking recharge into account is actually 3.6miles per kw
I use almost zero during the day, everything at night.
Just doing the research for which tarrif is going to be better...and get my old car dragged off the driveway so i can get to my charger.
Local council just bumped their prices up twice in the space of 6 months, and Glasgow now feels like they don't want anyone using their chargers.
8000 mpa…car charged all off peak + Batteries. Last month on Octopus Go 97%off peak 👍
John,
I've got a spreadsheet which will analyse up to a year's worth of data (gathered at 30 minute intervals so it will cope with an Octopus data download), show your usage and evaluate a number of tariffs. Could I send it to you to have a shufty at, as a fresh pair of eyes but someone who knows what he's looking for? If you're happy to take a look, how would I get it to you?
Are you on the Old Go until mid-May like us? 5/16p has been very useful for electric heating over the past year. 6 hours at 7.5 is pretty oood. I'm thinking home battery might be a good idea instead of solar pv. If you use 30KWH car and 30kWh house daily, is a battery cheapest investment? Going to get air to air heat pump for some heating.
Really you should classify both as indepenant in terms for saving money and working out their ROI
I went for big battery first (12kWh), because it delivered 80% of the savings of a PV system per kWh, for about the same capital cost, but all year round.
hey any chance you can post the actual octopus referal code . i went too far before realising i wasnt on your link .im trying to add it in but they keep asking me for the code , wont accept the link
Just one thing you might want to add to the spreadsheet is a max usage calculation - if your on GO for example, that's 4 hours @ 7kwh single phase, so max charge of 28kwh lets say 120 miles added, so if your daily commute is 150 miles your going to have to pay the higher rate for 10 kWh's. It's not quite true the more you do the more you save there is a limit.
That’s where the other tariffs would come in. Longer periods for intelligent and Ovo.
And let’s face it, a 150mile daily commute isn’t common.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Yeah I know but some can't get Intelligent (myself included as cost to be compatible means too big a gap in payback). Im not knocking the advice, I do the same things already to some degree - Im just pointing out there is a daily limit
I was on go but 4 hours wasn’t long enough to charge the car everyday due to my commute. My car isn’t capable for intelligent so I can’t move to that so stuck on British Gas five hour 10p rate
My understanding of the Intelligent rate is that Octopus can reschedule your car charging outside of the 6 hour window where they give you more off-peak hours. My only concern is this then empties my home battery which is locked to not discharge during my Go period. Do you have a method to avoid draining your battery if octopus decide to charge your car at 6am?
Home assistant can do that but it's a geek tool.
The GivEnergy charger is due in 1-2 months, that will 'talk' to the battery and prevent such issues I believe.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Big fan of geek tools and have been meaning to take a look at Home Assistant. Unfortunately I have very little control over my PureDrive battery so doubt it would help me. Might give Intelligent a shot over the summer and see how often it actually charges outside the standard window.
I've been struggling with this too. I tried having both Ohme and Octopus app installed to prevent this... But they they unfortunately fight with each other and your car will randomly stop charging.
The octopus app should tell you in the devices tab when it plans to charge your car, even if outside off peak times... But it does have the tendency to go rogue at times.
My best solution so far has been having "charging started" notifications on my phone, but if you're not near your phone it's ineffective.
The other challenge is that it sometimes takes 5-10 minutes to stop charging after you plug in, potentially enough time to lose 1kwh from your battery.
I'm sure it will all approve in time.
I find your videos very informing but often frustrating. And the crux of the matter is that our smart meter is a type one installed by British Gas. We change supplier about 3 years ago. It was a year before I discovered that my meter was no longer smart and thatunder estimation by my new supplier had allowed them to undercharge me by around £500. By sending the a reading every month I managed to make up the difference. All the time my new supplier was saying the inability to community to access my meter remotely would be sorted by June 2021. June 2022 I contacted them for a progress report and was told nothing. On requesting a new smart meter I was told that as mine was fùnctioning correctly ????? I would be charged £450. And that was final.
So we changed to the best we could find, a company you know very well. No change in policy regarding the meter. And why would they? By there own figures I would be paying about £1000 pa less if I had a clever, fully operating Smart Meter.
Hence my frustration.
Great video but I'm still confused. Maybe you can help if you were so kind?
I'm a taxi driver. I currently do around 30k miles a year. I work that out to be roughly £4300 a yr in diesel.
How much of a saving do you think I would make going eV on fuel alone on best tariff?
Using the following assumptions:
EV Charging at 10p per kWh getting 250wh/m. 30k miles will cost you £750 a year.
A diesel getting 45mpg, fuel at £1.50 a litre for 30k miles will cost you £4540 a year.
So you'd be £3790 better off on an EV. Assuming you always charged it overnight... Which seems unlikely for a taxi driver... But it's possible to play about with the figures yourself and work it out for your specific needs/charging habits.
@@AlexBurns86 thanks mate. That is some saving. I will be able to charge at cheaper rates 90% of time
@Alex Burns my car is currently paid off. Its whether I want to saddle myself with a 30k+ debt. Looks like I will save £12k over 4 yrs so still 18k down. Not massive incentive
@@razorg4421 always get a nearly new EV
On Oct Go + batteries, they are *still* charging us for peak electricity of ~12 kwh per month despite no record of any peak useage!!!
Batteries aren’t able to respond as quickly as the grid when it comes to inertia.
I'm on Octopus Go. I asked them if Octopus Flexible would be cheaper for me they said Go was my best Tariff.
Currently I only have 13A granny charger and during the 00:30 - 04:30 I can't get much charge into my car. Have you included the cost of the charger in your calculations?
I see I can't get intelligent until I get a charger installed (by them?)
8kwh a day !! That would be nice , we average 17kwh before plugging in the car. And heating/hot water is gas also. To be fair we have got a hot tub that saps up electrons. Unless I can get the hot tub to heat water in the off peak the intelligent won't work out too well.
That’s what the battery is for.
Those that work at night and are home during day say, charge at what cheap rate.?
What would you like me to say?
Off peak is off peak.
Can’t change rush hour.
I drive 55,000 a year in a Tesla MY. This will save me a small fortune!
Can I suggest you look at cells B30, B31,B39 and B40 in the spread sheet as they have the wrong formula in them. With the correct formula the costs are vastly different and OVO is by far the cheapest of those tariffs.
Ovo has no off peak house usage. Just the car.
@@ElectricVehicleMan How about B39 and B40?
Does where you live make a difference? My IO tariff is 7.5p off peak but 40p peak.
There are regional variations.
👍
We are looking to install home batteries, to charge on our EV tariff once our EV arrived (no solar panels).
Can anyone please recommend a supplier who will do more than just reply to a request to quote with a silent return phone call 🤦♂️
Thanks in advance.
David
You’ve just convinced me not to get a great pump….😂
I’m with octopus and they charge to switch (£75) so not straightforward
Interesting stuff. Anyone know why go is only 4 hrs cheap rate and intel is 6 hours?
Apparently Octopus calculates how many kW and the time needed to do this that you need to get from your present state of charge to your desired state of charge. It then might act a little bit like a thermostat and switch the power to the car on and off during periods during that 6 hour period depending on the price of the electricity so that the next morning when you need to car, it is at your required state of charge.
Octopus Intelligent requires a car and/or charger that's on a list of devices that Octopus support. Apparently when power is cheap, they extend the cheap period beyond those 6 hours - and that requires them being able to remotely control your charger.
My charger isn't supported :-(
@@CarolSteele that makes sense, thank you.
@@robinbennett5994 mine isn’t either, bit of a dumb one to be honest. I’ll stick with go.
I'd like to swap to Octopus but can't because I haven't got a smart meter and my current provider (British Gas) won't fit one because they say the chip shortage is still a thing!
Swap to Octopus first then get a smart meter. BG are BSing you.
I switched to Octopus from BG and within 1 month or so Octopus fitted a new 3-phase smart meter
Hi Andy . On Octopus Intelligent, can you use the off peak electricity to power some domestic items as well as the car? Logic says that it should not make a difference as your meter isn't able to tell the difference between electrons going to your car and electrons going to your car.
yes you can run anything during those hours, but Octo intelli talks to the car as the hours are variable so you may not always be using appliances on the cheaper rate
Why has the price cap cost dropped 2p in the final calculation?
More miles means the standing charge gets smaller as a percentage
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Flux was more favorable for solar PV + EV owners like yourself?
Not with an EV and battery. Lowest price is key.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Perhaps Flux is better suited for low consumption households but my maths says earning 25p per kWh when you export 80+% of your generation makes more sense when you can consume at 21p from 2-5am?
I'm on Go with a 14kWh domestic battery and an EV. I think from this that I might shift to intelligent.
Just switched to edf. 8.5p for 7 hours. Economy 7 so no need for ev etc
That's brilliant. How much are you paying at peak?
Would love to know how house batteries + EV owners are getting on with Intelligent Octopus?
I've found it's great for the most part, but every so often it goes rogue and charges my car when i'm not expecting it to. Draining my house battery in the process, a 7kw charger can rip through a 100% 10kWh charged battery pretty quickly 😐.
Goes rouge you me starts when octopus starts it as per the terms and conditions that the can move the charge if needed to at the same rate as the offpeak because they moved it
Take it you didn't read that
@@damiendye6623 Yep absolutely, but usually it gives you advanced notice of its charging pattern. As per the terms and conditions.
@@AlexBurns86 I have never had notice since it's all handled by my smart ohme charger and app linked to octopus via ohme API. So dunno what happens with a direct link
@@AlexBurns86 mine just says where in beta we can't fully integrated open the ohme app 😔
Blimey you use some juice, we used about 150kWh during April, about the same as just your peak usage..
Your off-peak use of 1200kWh is enormous, if you use 600kWh for charging the car this would give you your 2100 miles driving per month at 3.5 miles per kWh, total 25,000 miles per year etc.
This still leaves you using 600 kWh per month on the washing machine, are you running a laundry.. 😁
Heat pump and press cars.
Tumble dryers should NOT be run over night unattended as they can be a fire risk. Our condensing dryer uses less than a 1 kw. Ev's doing more than ICE cars is most probably due to company cars as a lot drive around cities to and from work. 4 hours at 7 kw cheap rate will be 28 kwh charge so not even half the average size 50 kwh EV battery or a third of a larger 77 kwh battery ? I bet a lot of EV cars only do 4000 miles a year. If you have excess solar then you need to include that as well as that is how I charge my EV.
EVs do more miles on average than ICE.
And if you can charge at home 90-120 miles per day is more for majority of people.
Or use one of the two other tariffs that have more than 4 hours. 🤷♂️
@@ElectricVehicleMan Yes true. I am looking to add a dedicated 240 V socket to switch excess solar to it for granny charging my car as a Zappi will cost £1500 to install. Happy for the car to take 1.6 kW so 6 Amps so will not hurt the charger or socket.
Never move to British Gas even if it’s cheaper. Woeful customer service.
Doesn’t matter how cheap home charging is because if you drive any real distance it costs more on public chargers than diesel does! Never mind the massive purchase price hike.
Night time charging is totally useless for the millions who work nights. This government is pushing a totally unworkable process which will never work!
It’s slightly more expensive on the public charging than diesel, of course it matters how cheap home charging is!
Most will do 95% from home so who cares about a few extra quid for a few journeys a year.
There are other tariffs during the day, it’s not all night.
Good grief ,it really is just too much, life is too short. Please let's stop mucking about. Just fill the car up with petrol or diesel and drive.
How much will 25k miles cost me?
I was on Octopus-Intelligent for a few months but have now just moved over to Octopus's new tariff Flux. Have you taken a look at this as a comparison to Intelligent to see if there is any bigger savings??
We have Intelligent Octopus - EV approximately double the house usage - average cost for the lot over a month 21p/kWh - more than good enough for us