About timestretch, you can also go into each of the 5 tracks and change Speed mode (something like that) to Pitch, then the track's pitch follows the time changes (if you speed up, the pitch gets higher, if you slow down, it gets lower). That maintains the sound quality without having that choppy aspect to it
I am talking to my Sales Engineer at Sweetwater this week on getting this. Thank you for your video it really answered allot of questions. I might sound like I know what I am talking about when I speak with Ryan.
When the Mk3 is released I hope they add a couple of drum pads to allow us tap our own drum beats into the RC505 using the internal drum sound library .
It's definitly a big improvement over the first version. Would really benefit from being able to remove the sd card. Apart from the obvious extra storage benefits, would make getting the audio from the looper onto the computer much easier than USB.
@@johnthebigtree wasn't trying to put anyone off. I have the first version and it's incredibly useful and musical, and this new one is even better. It's a great investment.
Considering the price of this thing, i think its *much* better to get a Maschine MK3. Then you are not limited to recording just 5 loops, and you can customize its functionality with your favorite plugin (or hardware) effects and instruments. This combined with the nice user interface and workflow makes me think this is better (for my personal needs) than probably ANY other music production tool that i am aware of. I got this just a couple of days ago; and for the first time in my life, i actually feel CONTENT with the gear i have..! This is not to say that i will never buy another hardware synth, but right now, i actually feel peace in my heart. Sweet relief :P
Its "ok" but us fans had really wanted to see - Many more tracks than still just 99 tracks. At least 999! - More channels than still just 5 channels. At least 8 or 10!
The 4 way loop station has been responsible for the Livelooper youtube craze over the last 10 years only to be slowly replaced by Abalten live and pad machines like the Novation Rythem. I want to do live looping and definitely gona want this new one as Abulten dont work for Me, I cant get VSTs to work right.
Is it now possible to have specific effects to specific tracks? Like 1 set of effects Reverb & delay to go to channel 1 & 3 and have Filter & Reverb to go to channel 4?
@sonicstate on the mk1, in the settings you can change the delete to be double tapping the stop button instead of holding it. I'm sure that's a setting in this one too. Great review! Thanks! (I just paid for my Soma Cosmos today, or else I'd have this in preorder)
does the mk2 still only record quantised and is not capable of recording unquantised (following the own rhythmic flow), or has this bug been fixed by a software update meanwhile?
Can you only have two synths to inputs? It would be great to be able to have access to all 5 tracks with 5 synths but seems like only two are possible.
is it possible to separate input fx to mic and instrument tracks? for example if i put delay on mic input and i dont want delay on the instrument input. is this possible? thank
Great review as always, I need to ask you all, is t there a need for a looper with BOTH foot and hand control! I mean why not make a foot pedal option for this unit or a Bluetooth option for the RC-600 so you can easily mix you level with an iPad. I get tired of bending down using my RC-300. Thoughts?
I live the functions an form factor of the mKII, but I do mostly guitar based looping, so I’ll have to go after the arc-600, which apparently is back ordered until feb! Ugh
Nick should do a solo version of being boiled. I'm still waiting for him and gaz to knock out of version of goodbye by Peter Cook and Dudley moore. And if we were lucky we would get a Ken Dodd song. Nick and gaz and the orchestra of Diddy synths.
The functionality sounds cool and it does some cool stuff. I'm not usually the one that cares about this kind of stuff. The design is rather ugly, it looks like something the Fisher Price company produced.
Hi, Can you route specific inputs to specific outputs? (for example route the mic to only go out one set of stereo outputs?) (or have instrument 2 only go out sub 1 but not out sub 2..)
Is it possible to power it via a powerbank with 9v supply?? I know that people did it with the mk1 , using a 5 to 9v usb converter. I want to use it outside.
Nick Batt building an arrangement that sounds not unlike some choice, early Black Moth Super Rainbow, and the vocoder helps with that - I dig it, brothe! 🤠😉 Nick’s enjoyment of new kit is good vibes, too.
I have the RC-505 MK1, it does feel a bit toy like at times, in terms of the fx and the slightly grainy nature of the loop quality. I love that I can set loop lengths, time signatures, count in times, sync to MIDI etc. All great features that old school loopers were missing (hence making them hard to incorporate in a live band context). I am liking all these new features, especially the multiple ins outs and routing potential. It's just a lot of money to splurge on an upgrade. I don't suppose Boss fancy doing an upgrade option where we can trade in our Mk1s? lol
@@PeterGarofalo routing to multiple outs is an absolute GAME CHANGER for anyone using the rc505 as their main production tool. That enough would have have had me sold but there's at least a 100 little things that I wish the mk1 has that the mk2 does have. And you can even use it as a drum kit on your midi controller? That's insane.
Having tried the various loopers over the years, most of them I never warmed to, However, BOSS recently upped their game in a HUGE way. Sound quality is immediately apparent, as are the very good drum loops. So I have to try this one. I owned the RC10R (need to replace it) and the RC-5, both are very good . These loopers are IMO, in a different league than other companie's.
Good review as usual. Very tempting at that price for live jams to add non-synths and vocals over sequencers. I bought a basic one-track looper pedal and although fun it doesn't sync so it's not much use.
This is one of, if not the only review I've seen of the 505 which incorporates synthesizers instead of just beat-boxing or guitars. It there are others, please let me know.
Did they fix the problem that the FILTER FX had way too low volume? Its a huge problem with the mkI becaus when turning off the filter to switch to another effect, then the audience get huge a volumous shock when the volume goes crazy up from extreme low! So does the mkII FILTER FX have a volume more normal in libne with other effects? OR did they implement a FX volume setting within the filter fx? AND did they add a possiblity to chance DIRECTION of the filter? Like up or down?
The original 505 could slave to MIDI clock, it had some advanced software to smooth out jitter. For best fidelity you want the thing recording and playing audio to be the master, though- otherwise it does little nasty time stretching stuff to the audio to keep it in time with an external clock. A lot of people will make their favorite piece of gear, or most expensive piece of gear, or their midi sequencer the master, but it is much cleaner for any midi stuff to slave to the thing doing audio playback, than vice-versa. Only exception would be when you have two things doing audio, like a DAW or another looper. The 505 mk1 was good with the options for clock and start/stop messages, there were a few options as to when that happened. I settled on having the rhythm track start/stop also start/stop the midi clock being sent out. You could turn the rhythm track down and still use the rhythm start/stop button to get your synced midi stuff going, and it wouldn’t stop if you stopped the loops from playing, only when you hit the stop button on the rhythm track. The 505 does the thing where it is always sending clock, even before and after the start/stop messages.
When you export wav files over USB does it seperate overdubs on each track into individual files or is it just one file per track. Great demo by the way.
Would be awesome if Boss was giving a real release date. In Europe it is not out and retailers say they have not definite shipping date from Boss either. They think it should be end of December. So no shipping this year : (
Hello anyone with one of these! So I am trying to get the mk2 set up as my master for start/stop and clock. Which I have managed to do so far. I am now unsure how to route my audio?? So I have the looper set as master, with my TR-8S 2nd then onto my microkorg (ATM). I do plan to swap this out with some other bits of kit as I see fit in the future. My mains audio comes out into my Mackie mixer , with 6 of my 11 channels going to their own channel on the mixer, then the rest goes into one channel from the mains out. I had then run the audio from the ctl room outs on the mixer into the looper, I lost nearly all sound from the TR at this point. I then cranked up 🤷🏼♂️ I'm not even sure tbh but the looper track DBs and got into the EQ side of it and cranked up all of those too. Got everything sounding ok then dropped my kick, and bass channels out of the drum machine, everything else raised so high in volume as if it was being compressed? 🤷🏼♂️ I don't know. I clearly haven't set it up right, and I'm currently running the TR into the Mackie then from there out and into my interface (which I do have the looper going to also. Has anybody else run into this kinda thing and how did you go about correcting it? Should I run everything out the mixer into the looper? Or should I assign one of the outs on the TR into the looper? Can anyone please advise me on this? Thanks and sorry for such a long comment. FfanitTech
oooo that's looking quite slick, with a dizzying amount of possibilities. I've had a lot of fun with Loopy on my iphone, but loving the idea of automating loop record start / stop and grouping etc. Designing your own widgets and interface is pretty far out as well.
The Mark Back and Rec Back explanation is not so good. Should have probably made a visual explanation and used easily distinguishable sounds. The current explanation sounds like you are doing the same thing for both Mark Back and Rec Back but calling it two different names. Very, very confusing.
505 was extremely influential n my musical journey. Absolutely amazing. Previous model does not save undo redo loops, seems like the bookmark could change that
Impressive box of tricks. I have a rc5 pedal and the 32 bit processing is crystal clear, it can turn to mush if thrashed doom overdubs are applied but staccato playing is rewarded. Not much change from 8 or 900 I fear.
Great video, I was interested in getting one but seeing that you can transfer files to and from it via usb really has me sold. So I take it you can have a lot of projects stored with all that recording time? Not just whatever you’re currently working on?
Ciao la mia mk2 si blocca con errori di si sistema quasi ogni volta. Una menl'hanno gia sostituita. Questa nuova fa un errore 3071 di memoria ma succede dopo pochi minuti per cui sono errori di software di sicuro.. come ci si può fidare in live? Firmware è gia aggiornato da fabbrica. Grazie
You mentioned driving the MIDI clock from a drummer - I know of someone who does exactly this. They have a mic on the drummer's kick drum, which feeds the audio in of his MODX. The MODX tracks this and sets its tempo to that kick drum. The MIDI clock, derived from the MODX's tempo, then feeds everything else, including the RC-505. The original RC-505 did have some audio glitching problems when it was performing time stretching while slaved an external MIDI clock and attempting to derive its tempo from that clock. I'm curious to see if the MKII has fixed this problem.
How did you attach your midi keyboard to your looper? I’ve attached my midi cable from my akai MPK 261 to the Boss 505 and it’s not working and I don’t know why. Audio interface is an Apollo x4 and we’re using logic as our DAW. If you have any insight that would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.
Thank You very much for your video! Could You please answer the question. In User Manual documentation in section Getting Ready on the page no 5 we can find: [FX] buttons. These buttons select whether to apply effects (input FX/track FX) for each track or not (effects are applied when the buttons are lit, and not applied when unlit). Also there is in section Creating a Loop Phrase (subsection Recording with Input FX) the next text: 1. Press the [FX] button for each track to turn its effects (input FX/track FX) on/off. It’s true, using [FX] buttons we can switch ON or OFF ‘track FX’ effects for tracks. But in my case [FX] buttons are not related with applying ‘input FX’ effects for the tracks. In both cases, when [FX] button is lit, or unlit, ‘input FX’ effect is applied for track. Is it really possible use [FX] buttons for switching ON or OFF ‘input FX’ effects for tracks? Thank You!
I just got this device and am really frustrated because anytime I have something recorded on track 1, have that playing, and then record something on track 2, everything on track 1 is also recorded on track 2, even though I have bounce SW off and all five tracks set to not bounce. It’s driving me mad. How do I prevent other tracks from being recorded onto a new track I am recording to? Thank you for any help.
Is there an audio quantize feature of some sorts? It would be great if it could automatically quantize the timing of recorded clips like Ableton Live can, preferably with less than full strength like 75% strength, and to a swing pattern such as 1/16th 62% swing.
@@IIeTpOc9H4uK It's a good tool, just like pitch correction. Ableton and others can audio-quantize, and quantization is completely expected from MIDI sequencers. Why not audio loopers.
@@yzimsx coz you gotta learn to play music in-time and in-pitch initially to keep your brain fit. The main principle of loopers for me is that they are fair. You got what you've played. It's not supposed to be easy no.
@@IIeTpOc9H4uK I'm 45 already, so I don't expect significant timing improvements. My timing with a looper is like this, and if that had been in Ableton, I would have audio-quantized the rhythm guitars and bass slightly to make it tighter ua-cam.com/video/JayJt9RLcB4/v-deo.html
It also doubles has an audio/midi card. I'm literaly playing ableton live using asio inside the looper. Record your virtual instruments. I'm also recording what's playing from the browser. Mangle your Donald Trump, mark zuckerborg, Elon Musk or whoever you wanna massacre. :)
Great review... only 1 thing I didn´t quite get. Nick mentions the possibilty to use an external sequencer drummachine which you had to sacrifice one track/channel for: Does it tempo sync to the external drummachine then? I would love to see that in action or at least if anyone could explain what Nick means, it would be most appreciated!!! Cheers :D
mmm meh.... dont think ill be rushing out to upgrade my mk1. if you own a 1st gen 505 there clearly isnt 500 quids worth of imiprovement here. i had at least thought theyd update the god aweful faders and cheap plastic but nope.... its the standard "fk you give us more money because were roland"
Wait hold up... So if you want to sum the tracks (bounce) you have to menu dive to turn it on, bounce the tracks, and then go back in a remember to turn it off before you do anything else? That doesn't really seem conducive to live performing. Am I missing something?
Everyone else excited about the SP-404 but THIS is what gives me a chub. Part of that of course is b/c my last purchase was a Circuit Rhythm tho ;) What confuses me however is why the original is only $85 less... ROLAND
I had been pondering over the mk1 for a while, so when news of the Mk2 came along I pre-ordered and paid my money. Sadly, that was in November, was told it would be December delivery, then Jan, then feb, now it’s the end of March. I wish that manufacturers would have the products in store and ready to ship when they tease you, I know there have been a lot of times that I would have made an impulse purchase on the back of a UA-cam demo, but then the item has been a pre order so I’ve not bothered about it, and then subsequent videos convinced me that I didn’t really need it. I’m at the point where Boss/Roland are about to lose a sale.
Roland have been promoting there 50 year anniversary, with special instructional videos etc. Unfotunately they also added 50 dollars to the price of most of their gear including the rc 505mk 2, making the cost 649 dollars, an additional dollar for each year in business. Way to go Roland.
Is there anyway to 'cue' the individual tracks via headphones or something. Say you record some vocals, and it sounds out of key, and you don't want to send it to final output/mix?
Hey Nick, I have on OG 505 but I’m actually interested in the plucky bass sounds at about 19:45. Is that on the Polybrute and can I achieve the same thing on an OG Minibrute. I’ve been trying to get this right for a while now
Hola amigo me gustaría Hacerte una pregunta. El volumen del ritmo de la pedalera (rhythm) Puede ir independiente al volumen de los track,¿? Yo no encuentro la manera. Un abrazo y gracias¡¡
With the rhythm metronome, how do you get the metronome to play? When i press 'Start/Stop' it shows it's playing but no sound from the metronome comes out. Output level is up but nothing still. What do?
How to monitor rc505mk2 in ableton? I'd like to hear the input in my daw only . I hear both rc505 n the signal that it sends to ableton. I'd like to hear only the signal sent to the daw.
About timestretch, you can also go into each of the 5 tracks and change Speed mode (something like that) to Pitch, then the track's pitch follows the time changes (if you speed up, the pitch gets higher, if you slow down, it gets lower). That maintains the sound quality without having that choppy aspect to it
Hello PSn
That's good to know, cheers! :)
Hello KBA 👋
The god of the rc505 has spoken
Hello taeyu
Call me old school but I still prefer Sonic Labs to any other gear reviews. 10,000 thanks Nick!!
Timeless school.
💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯☮️☯️☯️🎶🎶🎶
Nick is coool!
After all these years we finally got Nick to sing.... And then he has a cold. 😃 Hope you feel better soon
I am talking to my Sales Engineer at Sweetwater this week on getting this. Thank you for your video it really answered allot of questions. I might sound like I know what I am talking about when I speak with Ryan.
When the Mk3 is released I hope they add a couple of drum pads to allow us tap our own drum beats into the RC505 using the internal drum sound library .
Most underrated product on the market. One reason is it’s toy like look.
Yeah... it's absolutely my most important piece of gear, but it is built like an OP-1 lol
It's definitly a big improvement over the first version. Would really benefit from being able to remove the sd card. Apart from the obvious extra storage benefits, would make getting the audio from the looper onto the computer much easier than USB.
True, especially if you don't have a laptop and need to unplug your 505 and bring it to you computer. I'm still gonna buy this thing lol
@@johnthebigtree wasn't trying to put anyone off. I have the first version and it's incredibly useful and musical, and this new one is even better. It's a great investment.
I’m having a hard time getting the 505 to work with my daw, a video on how you integrate it into your system would be awesome
i have the mk1 rc-505 - great looper i like the addition of the bounce down feature in the mk2 .. nice one.
great video.
Considering the price of this thing, i think its *much* better to get a Maschine MK3. Then you are not limited to recording just 5 loops, and you can customize its functionality with your favorite plugin (or hardware) effects and instruments. This combined with the nice user interface and workflow makes me think this is better (for my personal needs) than probably ANY other music production tool that i am aware of. I got this just a couple of days ago; and for the first time in my life, i actually feel CONTENT with the gear i have..! This is not to say that i will never buy another hardware synth, but right now, i actually feel peace in my heart. Sweet relief :P
I think it’s worth noting that “Psn” commenter (and KBA commenter under them) were 2 of the 12 prototype testers of the product 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Its "ok" but us fans had really wanted to see
- Many more tracks than still just 99 tracks. At least 999!
- More channels than still just 5 channels. At least 8 or 10!
The 4 way loop station has been responsible for the Livelooper youtube craze over the last 10 years only to be slowly replaced by Abalten live and pad machines like the Novation Rythem. I want to do live looping and definitely gona want this new one as Abulten dont work for Me, I cant get VSTs to work right.
My question is how did you get it
Is it now possible to have specific effects to specific tracks?
Like 1 set of effects Reverb & delay to go to channel 1 & 3 and have Filter & Reverb to go to channel 4?
Yes, that.
Is the Arturia Matrixbrute yours Nick? I know u love it...just wondering. Epic la-la-la btw :p
@sonicstate on the mk1, in the settings you can change the delete to be double tapping the stop button instead of holding it. I'm sure that's a setting in this one too.
Great review! Thanks!
(I just paid for my Soma Cosmos today, or else I'd have this in preorder)
You’re great! Thanks for that.
the bouncing thing is the real gamechanger damn
does the mk2 still only record quantised and is not capable of recording unquantised (following the own rhythmic flow), or has this bug been fixed by a software update meanwhile?
It has a 'free' mode when recording....if that's what you are asking?
Can you only have two synths to inputs? It would be great to be able to have access to all 5 tracks with 5 synths but seems like only two are possible.
You can make each input mono and have four I guess, but you cant record to more than one track at a time anyhow
Just use a cheap mixer
Is there a way to duplicate or copy an entire memory and paste into a new empty memory? And not just channels of loops in the same memory?
Does this device have harmony function? Or some guitar effect?
is it possible to separate input fx to mic and instrument tracks? for example if i put delay on mic input and i dont want delay on the instrument input. is this possible? thank
Yes
u need more synths in the background
We're working on it
Definitely a need/want
Great review as always, I need to ask you all, is t there a need for a looper with BOTH foot and hand control! I mean why not make a foot pedal option for this unit or a Bluetooth option for the RC-600 so you can easily mix you level with an iPad. I get tired of bending down using my RC-300. Thoughts?
I agree. You can buy a standalone midi swither and connect it to the boss rc505. But at least with the mk 1 it's quite menu divey
I live the functions an form factor of the mKII, but I do mostly guitar based looping, so I’ll have to go after the arc-600, which apparently is back ordered until feb! Ugh
Blawan liked the video
Nick should do a solo version of being boiled. I'm still waiting for him and gaz to knock out of version of goodbye by Peter Cook and Dudley moore. And if we were lucky we would get a Ken Dodd song. Nick and gaz and the orchestra of Diddy synths.
Is this what Marc Rebillet uses?
Last video I saw, he was still on the MKI I would imagine shifting to a new unit would take some time as its so ingrained in his workflow
Interesting 🤔 unit
Couldn't you just do all this on an MPC ONE?
I think the two together would be something amazing.
@@paulwhiting1731 Don't know..I reckon you don't need this if you had the MPC.
It seems to do all this and more.
You better buy Cubase for the money
you can only loop 4/4 with this machine.
32\32
No you can dial in the measure of every track individually
I love how Blawan uses the RC looper with his modular setup for capturing loops with human modulation. Incredible tool for live
The functionality sounds cool and it does some cool stuff.
I'm not usually the one that cares about this kind of stuff. The design is rather ugly, it looks like something the Fisher Price company produced.
They should have made it less ugly. Boss/Roland have the ugliest products on the market.
Mate you are a wonder. I have owned this RC505 II for 2 months and it is a total total bastard to understand. Thanks for your secret sauce man.
same here.....his review opens up a lot for me 2 😆
Wow, a 505 mkII review where we ACTUALLY GET TO HEAR THE 505 … scrape my jaw up off the floor. Nick good as always … Thanks Nick!
Has Roland gotten Marc Rebillet one of these yet? That dude is the gold standard for looping.
Yeah, he showed that he had gotten one in an Instagram story. He is the Loop King! 🤘
@@taubennedjensen *Loop Daddy
Hi, Can you route specific inputs to specific outputs? (for example route the mic to only go out one set of stereo outputs?) (or have instrument 2 only go out sub 1 but not out sub 2..)
According to the user manuals, which are already available on Roland’s site, it seems this should be possible.
Can you share a list of the effects? I can't seem to find them anywhere. Thanks
Is it possible to power it via a powerbank with 9v supply?? I know that people did it with the mk1 , using a 5 to 9v usb converter. I want to use it outside.
I'd love a response on this. I did it on the RC 202 and it works great with a power bank.
Somebody had any experience on the 505 mkii??
Nick Batt building an arrangement that sounds not unlike some choice, early Black Moth Super Rainbow, and the vocoder helps with that - I dig it, brothe! 🤠😉
Nick’s enjoyment of new kit is good vibes, too.
It's a shame Roland did not make the Mk2 in matt black....
You can retro fit a larger memory card with a standard Philips screw driver.
The stack system is very smart, If it just had also MIDI looping...
Are all fx algorhitms new? Are they taken from another box like the boss fx pedals or roland zen core ect?
the original 505 was the most fun bit of kit I have ever bought
I have the RC-505 MK1, it does feel a bit toy like at times, in terms of the fx and the slightly grainy nature of the loop quality. I love that I can set loop lengths, time signatures, count in times, sync to MIDI etc. All great features that old school loopers were missing (hence making them hard to incorporate in a live band context). I am liking all these new features, especially the multiple ins outs and routing potential. It's just a lot of money to splurge on an upgrade. I don't suppose Boss fancy doing an upgrade option where we can trade in our Mk1s? lol
Another vote for the 'trade-in' option. Great idea.
agree & in the end , what's not to like about the MK 1 . ? just get on with it & make good music.
@@PeterGarofalo routing to multiple outs is an absolute GAME CHANGER for anyone using the rc505 as their main production tool. That enough would have have had me sold but there's at least a 100 little things that I wish the mk1 has that the mk2 does have. And you can even use it as a drum kit on your midi controller? That's insane.
Having tried the various loopers over the years, most of them I never warmed to, However, BOSS recently upped their game in a HUGE way. Sound quality is immediately apparent, as are the very good drum loops. So I have to try this one. I owned the RC10R (need to replace it) and the RC-5, both are very good . These loopers are IMO, in a different league than other companie's.
Good review as usual. Very tempting at that price for live jams to add non-synths and vocals over sequencers. I bought a basic one-track looper pedal and although fun it doesn't sync so it's not much use.
En español, falta un tutorial en video en español. Tuto in spanish
Trying to figure out if I want this model or the 600 one. Don’t need floor features but am feeling like I want a 700 which has all of both
Disagree the 1st 505 didn't sound good it did especially when you add the fxw
This is one of, if not the only review I've seen of the 505 which incorporates synthesizers instead of just beat-boxing or guitars. It there are others, please let me know.
Thanks and great Video. How the heck do you add effects on the built in rhythm tracks????
when ya gonna get marc Rebillet or Reggie Wattas on the show,,,,,,,They are looping royalty
Would love to - we have asked Marc but never got a reply
@@sonicstate if at first u dont succeed ,,,,haha ,,,,thx for all the work u do , and of course for the reply
Did they fix the problem that the FILTER FX had way too low volume?
Its a huge problem with the mkI becaus when turning off the filter to switch to another effect, then the audience get huge a volumous shock when the volume goes crazy up from extreme low!
So does the mkII FILTER FX have a volume more normal in libne with other effects? OR did they implement a FX volume setting within the filter fx?
AND did they add a possiblity to chance DIRECTION of the filter? Like up or down?
Shawn the sheep farmer gets a looper - nice job.
1st question I always ask with a new Boss looper - how well does it handle being slaved to MIDI clock?
The original 505 could slave to MIDI clock, it had some advanced software to smooth out jitter. For best fidelity you want the thing recording and playing audio to be the master, though- otherwise it does little nasty time stretching stuff to the audio to keep it in time with an external clock. A lot of people will make their favorite piece of gear, or most expensive piece of gear, or their midi sequencer the master, but it is much cleaner for any midi stuff to slave to the thing doing audio playback, than vice-versa. Only exception would be when you have two things doing audio, like a DAW or another looper.
The 505 mk1 was good with the options for clock and start/stop messages, there were a few options as to when that happened. I settled on having the rhythm track start/stop also start/stop the midi clock being sent out. You could turn the rhythm track down and still use the rhythm start/stop button to get your synced midi stuff going, and it wouldn’t stop if you stopped the loops from playing, only when you hit the stop button on the rhythm track. The 505 does the thing where it is always sending clock, even before and after the start/stop messages.
And there it is.
So the MKII does not have this function anymore?
@@bastarddonthemove i mean..i don't know..but i would be very surprised if it would not
Make 505 the leader
1:23 „i can confirm the ad/da has been improved“
1:30 „i havent experienced the original“
Good start
When you export wav files over USB does it seperate overdubs on each track into individual files or is it just one file per track. Great demo by the way.
Just one per track
@@sonicstate Thanks
@@sonicstate seems a bit of a missed opportunity.
Nice review! Shocked they wouldn't go for a redesign! LCD Screen, modernized look and feel.
Would be awesome if Boss was giving a real release date. In Europe it is not out and retailers say they have not definite shipping date from Boss either. They think it should be end of December. So no shipping this year : (
Hello anyone with one of these! So I am trying to get the mk2 set up as my master for start/stop and clock. Which I have managed to do so far. I am now unsure how to route my audio??
So I have the looper set as master, with my TR-8S 2nd then onto my microkorg (ATM). I do plan to swap this out with some other bits of kit as I see fit in the future.
My mains audio comes out into my Mackie mixer , with 6 of my 11 channels going to their own channel on the mixer, then the rest goes into one channel from the mains out. I had then run the audio from the ctl room outs on the mixer into the looper, I lost nearly all sound from the TR at this point. I then cranked up 🤷🏼♂️ I'm not even sure tbh but the looper track DBs and got into the EQ side of it and cranked up all of those too. Got everything sounding ok then dropped my kick, and bass channels out of the drum machine, everything else raised so high in volume as if it was being compressed? 🤷🏼♂️ I don't know.
I clearly haven't set it up right, and I'm currently running the TR into the Mackie then from there out and into my interface (which I do have the looper going to also.
Has anybody else run into this kinda thing and how did you go about correcting it? Should I run everything out the mixer into the looper? Or should I assign one of the outs on the TR into the looper? Can anyone please advise me on this?
Thanks and sorry for such a long comment.
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Still haven't come across a looping setup that beats Group The Loop. Abd HD Loopy Pro is coming. Best looper = ipad + midi pedal.
oooo that's looking quite slick, with a dizzying amount of possibilities. I've had a lot of fun with Loopy on my iphone, but loving the idea of automating loop record start / stop and grouping etc. Designing your own widgets and interface is pretty far out as well.
The Mark Back and Rec Back explanation is not so good. Should have probably made a visual explanation and used easily distinguishable sounds. The current explanation sounds like you are doing the same thing for both Mark Back and Rec Back but calling it two different names. Very, very confusing.
Disappointed that we didn't;t get to hear you beatbox Nick
I was about to get 404mk2 but I think i will get 505mk2 instead and approach music making in a whole new exciting way
I think you need another cupboard for your synths. :)
505 was extremely influential n my musical journey. Absolutely amazing. Previous model does not save undo redo loops, seems like the bookmark could change that
I Imagine the 505 with a tTouch Screen, Full editing options.
Impressive box of tricks. I have a rc5 pedal and the 32 bit processing is crystal clear, it can turn to mush if thrashed doom overdubs are applied but staccato playing is rewarded. Not much change from 8 or 900 I fear.
Great video, I was interested in getting one but seeing that you can transfer files to and from it via usb really has me sold. So I take it you can have a lot of projects stored with all that recording time? Not just whatever you’re currently working on?
I'm pretty sure the mk1 could do that too
Ciao la mia mk2 si blocca con errori di si sistema quasi ogni volta. Una menl'hanno gia sostituita. Questa nuova fa un errore 3071 di memoria ma succede dopo pochi minuti per cui sono errori di software di sicuro.. come ci si può fidare in live? Firmware è gia aggiornato da fabbrica. Grazie
You can put lights on each individual track to peak meters.
Ah, Polybrute and Korg NTS; a classic pairing. Each really complements the other's shortcomings.
Their size?
You mentioned driving the MIDI clock from a drummer - I know of someone who does exactly this. They have a mic on the drummer's kick drum, which feeds the audio in of his MODX. The MODX tracks this and sets its tempo to that kick drum. The MIDI clock, derived from the MODX's tempo, then feeds everything else, including the RC-505.
The original RC-505 did have some audio glitching problems when it was performing time stretching while slaved an external MIDI clock and attempting to derive its tempo from that clock. I'm curious to see if the MKII has fixed this problem.
@Aaron Foltz Yeah, I'm curious about this too. Does it mean the kick drum has to always play a 4/4 kick pattern in order to set the tempo?
It does depend on a 4/4 rhythm. This is a Yamaha video that shows it in use: ua-cam.com/video/IRlgglsj7i0/v-deo.html
No me es posible poner subtítulos en español,podéis hacer algo?
How did you attach your midi keyboard to your looper? I’ve attached my midi cable from my akai MPK 261 to the Boss 505 and it’s not working and I don’t know why. Audio interface is an Apollo x4 and we’re using logic as our DAW. If you have any insight that would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.
Thank You very much for your video!
Could You please answer the question.
In User Manual documentation in section Getting Ready on the page no 5 we can find: [FX] buttons. These buttons select whether to apply effects (input FX/track FX) for each track or not (effects are applied when the buttons are lit, and not applied when unlit).
Also there is in section Creating a Loop Phrase (subsection Recording with Input FX) the next text: 1. Press the [FX] button for each track to turn its effects (input FX/track FX) on/off.
It’s true, using [FX] buttons we can switch ON or OFF ‘track FX’ effects for tracks. But in my case [FX] buttons are not related with applying ‘input FX’ effects for the tracks. In both cases, when [FX] button is lit, or unlit, ‘input FX’ effect is applied for track. Is it really possible use [FX] buttons for switching ON or OFF ‘input FX’ effects for tracks?
Thank You!
I just got this device and am really frustrated because anytime I have something recorded on track 1, have that playing, and then record something on track 2, everything on track 1 is also recorded on track 2, even though I have bounce SW off and all five tracks set to not bounce. It’s driving me mad. How do I prevent other tracks from being recorded onto a new track I am recording to? Thank you for any help.
Is there an audio quantize feature of some sorts? It would be great if it could automatically quantize the timing of recorded clips like Ableton Live can, preferably with less than full strength like 75% strength, and to a swing pattern such as 1/16th 62% swing.
learn to quantize yourself, hardware won't do all the staff. Imperfectly quantized notes is what makes us humans hey
@@IIeTpOc9H4uK It's a good tool, just like pitch correction. Ableton and others can audio-quantize, and quantization is completely expected from MIDI sequencers. Why not audio loopers.
@@yzimsx coz you gotta learn to play music in-time and in-pitch initially to keep your brain fit. The main principle of loopers for me is that they are fair. You got what you've played. It's not supposed to be easy no.
@@IIeTpOc9H4uK I'm 45 already, so I don't expect significant timing improvements. My timing with a looper is like this, and if that had been in Ableton, I would have audio-quantized the rhythm guitars and bass slightly to make it tighter ua-cam.com/video/JayJt9RLcB4/v-deo.html
Yes, there’s quantise. Loopop mentions it in his comparison video vs the 600
It also doubles has an audio/midi card. I'm literaly playing ableton live using asio inside the looper. Record your virtual instruments. I'm also recording what's playing from the browser. Mangle your Donald Trump, mark zuckerborg, Elon Musk or whoever you wanna massacre. :)
Great review... only 1 thing I didn´t quite get. Nick mentions the possibilty to use an external sequencer drummachine which you had to sacrifice one track/channel for: Does it tempo sync to the external drummachine then? I would love to see that in action or at least if anyone could explain what Nick means, it would be most appreciated!!! Cheers :D
mmm meh.... dont think ill be rushing out to upgrade my mk1. if you own a 1st gen 505 there clearly isnt 500 quids worth of imiprovement here. i had at least thought theyd update the god aweful faders and cheap plastic but nope.... its the standard "fk you give us more money because were roland"
Wait hold up... So if you want to sum the tracks (bounce) you have to menu dive to turn it on, bounce the tracks, and then go back in a remember to turn it off before you do anything else? That doesn't really seem conducive to live performing. Am I missing something?
Everyone else excited about the SP-404 but THIS is what gives me a chub.
Part of that of course is b/c my last purchase was a Circuit Rhythm tho ;)
What confuses me however is why the original is only $85 less... ROLAND
I had been pondering over the mk1 for a while, so when news of the Mk2 came along I pre-ordered and paid my money. Sadly, that was in November, was told it would be December delivery, then Jan, then feb, now it’s the end of March. I wish that manufacturers would have the products in store and ready to ship when they tease you, I know there have been a lot of times that I would have made an impulse purchase on the back of a UA-cam demo, but then the item has been a pre order so I’ve not bothered about it, and then subsequent videos convinced me that I didn’t really need it. I’m at the point where Boss/Roland are about to lose a sale.
Roland have been promoting there 50 year anniversary, with special instructional videos etc. Unfotunately they also added 50 dollars to the price of most of their gear including the rc 505mk 2, making the cost 649 dollars, an additional dollar for each year in business. Way to go Roland.
Is there anyway to 'cue' the individual tracks via headphones or something. Say you record some vocals, and it sounds out of key, and you don't want to send it to final output/mix?
Hey Nick, I have on OG 505 but I’m actually interested in the plucky bass sounds at about 19:45. Is that on the Polybrute and can I achieve the same thing on an OG Minibrute. I’ve been trying to get this right for a while now
Hola amigo me gustaría Hacerte una pregunta.
El volumen del ritmo de la pedalera (rhythm) Puede ir independiente al volumen de los track,¿? Yo no encuentro la manera.
Un abrazo y gracias¡¡
And if I´m perfectly honest: Nick Batt makes the best reviews ever! ...together with Gaz Williams they are a dream team. Thank you!
This, or COSMOS?
With the rhythm metronome, how do you get the metronome to play?
When i press 'Start/Stop' it shows it's playing but no sound from the metronome comes out.
Output level is up but nothing still.
What do?
How to monitor rc505mk2 in ableton?
I'd like to hear the input in my daw only . I hear both rc505 n the signal that it sends to ableton. I'd like to hear only the signal sent to the daw.
Why did you not check you mic gain compared to how high your 505 outputs? It is really not pleasant to watch : (
SonicState still the best for product reviews. Great easy explanation Nick. Er... you made me buy one!
Is the bounce function post fader or pre fader?