[HDp60] Viktoria Karpenko (UKR) Floor Team Qualifications 2000 Sydney Olympic Games
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Ever since 1999 AA Silver, It was rumored that it really went to her head and she stopped trying in practice and all I got to say is that it shows. She was a hot mess this whole Olympics. Yes, the floor was broken the whole competition, but you can clearly see that she wasnt the same Karpenko from the year prior.
I mean, it is well known that the Ukrainian national team had a lot of issues with politics and coaching around that time, and I'm sure that affected Karpenko and her practices. She was also fairly injured off an on in the beginning of 2000. She was supposed to be in Australia for a team meet and had to pull out last minute, same with Gorodinay and Skarupa. Anyway, an athlete as talented as Karpenko, just doesn't become lazy in an Olympic year.
She performed almost exactly the same as she had in the 1999 World Championships: weak Qualification round ( in 1999, she also squeaked into VT EF + UB); better in TF (few mistakes); strong AA with 1 mistake on FX (in 2000, the mistake was much larger); strong EF performance (7th VT + 5th UB in 1999; 4th UB in 2000).
The only difference was in 1999, she looked good enough on FX in AA that she could've realistically been in all 4 EF. Whereas, she never once came close to hitting FX in Sydney. She needed just over 9.5 in AA on FX to win gold after Raducan was stripped - should've been a cake-walk, even with an OOB on the 2nd pass. But, that also shows how great she'd done on the other 3 events that day.
I'm sure she had some personality issues, but she also struggled with injuries. Routine composition - particularly FX - was the main culprit for her missing out on an AA medal here.
@@Brenttyboy Були чутки, що Вікторія стала якоюсь "примадонна" після своєї срібної медалі на чемпіонаті світу 1999 року. Олег Остапенко докладав руку до цього "примадонна" ставлення і казав, що це просто знайдена нова впевненість. Турищева намагалася відправити Олега і Вікторію на землю реальності. Як бачите, це не спрацювало.
Such a shame!
The whole team seemed so disconnected. Roschupkina and kvasha seemed the only interested ones…
can0t believe she was so out of shape ONLY on floor at olympics, it became her nightmare
That first pass is an unfortunate foreshadowing...
I will never understand the Ukrainian coaches….. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SOOOOO GOOD!!!! INGA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT TEAM BUT TYRYK DROPPED COLD HARD CASH AND BRIBED HER WAY ONTO THE TEAM…. They freakin had podium training and AT THAT POINT, THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID: “KARPENKO, JUST DO A WHIP TO DOUBLE ARABIAN BECAUSE THIS FLOOR SUCKS AND REBOUNDING WITH A FRONT OUT OF IT IS UNPREDICTABLE!!!! ALSO, GET RID OF THE ONE AND A HALF ON THE 2ND PASS…. 3RD PASS JUST DO THE FULL-IN AND FINAL BE A DOUBLE PIKE” AND FOR TESLENKO, GET RID OF THE FRONT TUCK STEP OUT AND STAY IN BOUNDS!
So true!
I mean, assuming they weren't all blind, they would've surely known by even Qualifications that 1. this team had no chance at a medal needing to count 2 VT scores out of Yarosh (wildly inconsistent VTer), Roschupkina (9.7/9.8, weak VTer), Tyryk (9.5/9.5; embarrassing VTer); 2. Karpenko had no business performing this composition on FX, when she'd missed that 2nd pass SO MANY times in her career.
The ADF + Front trip in the AA was honestly unexpected. But, her landing the 1.5>2.5 + Front Pike out of bounds ALL 3 TIMES in Sydney was actually quite predictable. She'd easily done her mount, 1.5 + Front Pike, Whip + BHS + Double Pike, and Full-in for a 10.0 SV.
Ostapenko coached brazilian team for years. There s a lot histories terribles about this period
She did the double pike twice?!
Yes, she often did in Qualifications and some minor meets. Other athletes, like Trudy McIntosh and Brooke Walker repeated elements for their DMTs as well throughout this timeframe. Under this COP, you could repeat an element to fulfill a Special Requirement.
So, the Double Pike fulfilled the Special Requirement of having a C (minimum) Dismount (Qual, Team, AA; in EF, a D Dismount was required). However, it could not be counted as a Value Part or earn any Bonus.
I will say this is the first time that i've seen this floor from this angle. After the second pass her team mates aren't even looking at the floor. Also isn't doing the same pass twice a rules deduction?
No, under this COP, you could repeat an element to fulfill a Special Requirement. So, the Double Pike fulfilled the Special Requirement of having a C (minimum) Dismount (Qual, Team, AA; in EF, a D Dismount was required). However, it could not be counted as a Value Part or earn any Bonus. She had a 10.0 SV from:
1. ADF + Front | E+A = 0.20 (E) + 0.20 (CV) = 0.40 BP
2. 1.5 > 2.5 + Pike | C>D+A = 0.10 (D) + 0.20 (CV) + 0.20 (CV) = 0.50 BP
3. Popa + Shushunova | C+C = 0.10 (CV) = 0.10 BP
4. Double Pike | D = 0.0 (1 required D Value Part)
5. Double Pike | X = 0.0 (No VP for repeated element; fulfills Special Requirement)
Now after watching this, and her TF floor, I think there's NO way she would have won AA gold, even if she hadn't fallen on her first pass. She would have needed a 9.75 and I just don't see how that would have happened with the way she was doing floor all week. Silver however. 9.5 would have gotten her that. (Now gold)
It was well within her ability (look at 2000 Europeans and Worlds 1999). She really just seemed to me that she just gave up here.
@@211jump That drove me crazy about Karpenko. She was so talented but there were times where it seemed like she wasn't even trying!
I think they wouldn't give Raducan such a high score if Karpenko hit her routine.
Raducan needed 9.575 to win gold so they probably just went overboard with her score since she was the last to go and she won anyway (even with re-vaults nobody had a real chance to outscore her) so that score wasn't controversial, even though her AA floor was weaker than her qual and TF exercise (I mean she slipped in her 3rd pass but managed to cover it, and her triple full was a bit questionable, borderline not really fully completed so no way it deserved such a high score).
So if Raducan got like maximum 9.7 for that routine which would be a more realistic score compared to her qual and TF, Karpenko could win the gold if she just landed on her feet and stayed in bounds (I mean she got more than 9.5 for her TF floor where she had quite unstable landings on her first and final pass and went out of bounds on her 2nd pass).
Lots of "what if" here, but I think she had a good chance to win. If Raducan went first in that rotation and Karpenko last, I think we'd have a different outcome. Raducan is my all time favorite gymnast so I'm happy she won gold (she'll always be Sydney AA champion in my book), but it was super sad to watch Karpenko losing it all for such a fluke mistake after she basically hit that first pass.
@@nabojsa touche. That's a take I didn't consider.