Top 7 Hardest Ski Runs in Europe
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- There are some truly terrifying ski runs spread throughout Europe. These runs that are so hard that even the experts should think long and hard before hitting them. From suicide slopes to dangerous French passages, in this video we are going through the toughest ski runs in Europe.
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00:00 Intro
00:17 The Swiss Wall
01:29 The Tunnel, France
02:23 Tortin, Switzerland
03:16 Harakiri, Austria
04:29 Grand Couloir, France
05:15 La Grave, France
06:10 The Streif, Austria
Credits: 1:40 - @skiwithgenerationsnow
Your pronunciation of French and German names is beyond hilarious. Very novel and a rather cunning approach to adding entertainment value. Well done!
Ha! You got in before me! He had to be doing it on purpose, nobody could be that dumb!!
@@thecricketbatguitar4413
Dumb, no.
Not very good at French etc, yeah definitely. Some people either didn't take French, or didn't pay attention 😅.
At some point I was just watching to see if he might get just one right. 🤣
yeah nobody cares how they're supposed to be said
Gran Colio is no joke 🤣
I think some people here are getting mixed up between a slope's PERCENTAGE and DEGREES, they are not the same.
Yes.
100% = 45 degrees.
100% means 1 m climbed for 1 m horizontal mouvement
20% means you climb 2 m for every 10 m of horizontal mouvement
The wall ride on Corbet's is infinity percent
I've run Harakiri and I can confirm: you fall you're running the rest of the way down on your behind! The funny thing is the first part from the ski lift is pretty tame, so you see a bunch of people starting the run, but stop at the real drop get their skis on the shoulder and march all the way back to the ski lift - too funny 🙂
Haha they’re all like “Nope”
Yup, I did that. But then I slipped and fell all the way down headfirst anyway. It was one big icesheet when I tried it as well.
@@mountain_sight Väggen in Sweden is 45 degrees
@@gidzyy9431Choken is even steeper
The Gotchnawang in Klosters, Switzerland was an insane run. It was rarely open due to avalanche danger and hasn’t been listed as an official run in decades.
Sounds insane and dangerous!
Mountain access from Klosters Platz is by the two-stage Gotschna cable-car. On the way up you pass over the infamous Wang - the open, off-piste face of the Gotschnagrat, on which a party including Prince Charles was hit by an avalanche in 1988 (one member of the group died). Needless to say, the avalanche risk is very high here, but if you like your skiing steep and deep, and catch it on a good day in the company of a guide, you’ll have an experience you won’t easily forget.
@@PeterKocic I skied it a couple of times in one day in the 70's. Great times but scary as hell for a 14 year old. Looking at it from above while in the cable car was intimidating enough.
Was that the one where Prince (now King) Charles and his buddies were caught in a fatal avalanche?
@@garethonthetube yes
I've done Tortin a couple of times, but you do have to be in good shape. I think any skilled skier can get down there no problem, it's just that exhaustion is a big factor, especially when the moguls get big. With the nastier ones you drop almost straight down for more than a meter, and then you're on top of the next one with a lot of extra speed. I have a lot of respect for the guys who can do a slope like this without stopping once.
I haven't skied la Grave, but I've skied the rest. I think the Grand Couloir was the most terrifying because it was first run of the day and the arête you have to ski along to get to it was a sheet of ice. I've done the Swiss Wall the most of the runs, it's a rite of passage and makes you really feel you've earned the right to ski from France to Switzerland.
La Grave doesn't belong to this rating since, it's not a marked run or groomed in any way. It's just a huge mountain side with an infinite amount of route options. A local guide even wrote a book about it (Chemins d'Oisans). So there are numerous options to ski it down including steep coulouars. In some of those a rope and a harnes are mandatory. On the other hand with a good visibility and with easy snow conditions a tourist with an experience of steeps and ungroomed snow can do it quite easily by following the most obvious routes. Additionally a skier at least has to be able to deal with moguls or/and possibly ski deep snow if the conditions are such. Ordinary French dudes ski the easiest routes with their family on their holidays.
The "Grand Couloir" of Courchevel that is presented is the easy one. There are 2 possible turns on the right in 2 steeper couloirs that are never groomed, since it is impossible.
Go-pro coloir is harder
In Trysil in Norway they groom a slope with 45 degrees! It’s called Expert’n. In Sweden in Sälen they groom a slope with 46 degrees called “väggen” (the wall). So there are much steeper slopes which are groomed!
Was just about to say
Väggen is 45 degrees and I skied it when I was 6 years old. Chocken in Idre Fjäll is groomed and is 46 degrees (previously 48 deg).
Väggen är 45, chocken 46
Saw a guy go full speed straight down from the top of Eksperten last week after I had reached the bottom myself. He was full primal-mode screaming from the top of his lungs all the way down. I'm 100% sure they heard him all the way to the ski lift from Høgegga.
My sister snapped her leg completely a few days earlier in that slope about half way down at her last turn. She didn't break it because she fell, was just an insane amount of g-force during the turn. Then she sailed over to the side of the slope and laid down. The medics' snowmobiles and stuff had a lot of trouble getting to her, they'd just slide down past her unable to stop because it was so steep.
Fun slope!
I've gone down eksperten and chocken on snowboard. Even though they are pretty much the same when it comes to steepness I think chocken is way scarier. Not really sure why that is but i've heard that the upper part of chocken is even steeper than 46 degrees. Maybe chocken looks worse than it is from the top.
Of those two I prefer eksperten since it's less of a hassle to get to that pist. The off-piste areas next to eksperten are pretty nice too.
I would never do either in icey conditions though :-)
Really interesting piece I'm falling in love with skiing and found this really useful thanks dude.
this is a really great compilation, thank you for posting. I remember many years ago on way to Les Menuires for lunch spotting an awful steep mogul field with sign back to Meribel. We all shuddered at the thought and went off to eat. As the weather closed in we said we would head back. By the time we got skis back on and started out visibility was very poor and on the way we barely made out a Meribel sign and followed it. Of course we were on the awful mogul field we'd spotted earlier in sunglight and had to pick our way down in an almost white-out. It was horrendous!!!
ahh i love les menuires!! i was there a few weeks ago!!
La Grave! Steep and long off piste. Beautiful views.
i started skiing at christmas. i did tortin last week and i have to say it sparked my love for moguls. it felt just so nice to ski among those moguls there, tricky but fun!
One good ski run that I tried in Europe is le mur de l'Yret (Yret wall) in Serre Chevalier ski station, France. While Serre Chevalier is rather a family oriented gigantic ski station with mostly intermediate ski runs, it has a few black runs and unlimited hors piste to test most any skier's abilities. While officially hors piste, the mur de l'Yret is pretty easy to find and very frequented, since it runs directly under the Yret chairlift. Steepness averages 46 degrees in its top first quarter and about 43 degrees in its top first third, smoothing out to a mere 35 degrees in the remaining two thirds, for a total drop of 300 meters. Depending on snow conditions, it may be fairly easy to seriously difficult, especially when its smooth bumps are all hard and icy. Being ungroomed, avalanches are not impossible when the snow mantle is thick.
Mur de l'Yret is a very nice run but it's a bit under 35 degrees in the top part, sorry if it's disappointing :). The steepness read on the net are most of the time inflated a lot (both by skiers who have no idea what 45 degree really is like - that includes quite a few local skiers and ski teachers :P - and by resorts who frequently inflate the numbers to make advertisement). It's still a bit potentially dangerous because of the pylons of the telesiege, I saw a guy fall and hurt the plastic protecting the pylons pretty badly there, had to be evacuated.. But it's about the same steepness as Mur suisse or Grand couloir's wall.
Wow great video and great list. i skied down Harakiri once at that time i didnt know it was the steepest groomed run in the world. I thought it was close to being one of the steepest, but now i know it is the steepest so thank you.
Thank you, appreciate your feedback!
It is not! Steeper is Diretissima in Katschberg, Austria. But I don't know if it's the steepest.
Chocken, Idre fjäll Sweden, is 46 degrees at the steepest. Groomed.
@@Ealps Theres a 45 degree slope in Trysal, Norway which is groomed as well. There is a metal structure at the top for the piste basher to clip onto.
I think there is still some controversy about which one is the steepest run. But Harakiri certainly is quite steep and very icy since it is in shade most of the day. But the steep part is quite short.
Grew up going to 4 vallees every year. Did tortin the first time probably at 10. Really sparked my mogul love. I love going down the slope without stopping and being completely sore and out of breath at the bottom and then, grab a pint. And then go up again. Best slope I’ve done.
The way you prononce french nam for the pistes worth to watch. So funny and totally incorrect. Thanks for the moment
I remember le diamant noir in france. A great slope with big moguls and a scary narrow bit inbetween rocks. We just had to do him a couple of times a day.
Scary but fun.
La Grave is an amazing mountain. It is always in charge and its always a pleasure being able to br there.
I have skiied down the wall in Sälen in Sweden which is 45 degrees and the Expert in Trysil Norway that is also 45 degrees. Both at 14 years
Pretty good list, however Tortin, Verbier, as you call it, is actually called Col de Chassoure, and the elevation at the top is only 2740m. 3300m is the elevation at the top of Mont Fort. I would actually have rated the slope that is directly under the Mont Fort Cable car as scarier than Chassoure, however it's not really skiable anymore, due to melting of the glacier. Also, Saulire above Courchevel is only 2738m, not 3100m.
This is quite good but this guys pronounciation is appalling eg LA GRAVE the French resort - why is the Valee Blanche or the run from the top of the Grand Montet back to the
thank you
Under the mont fort cables is still quite skiable as long as the conditions aren’t horrendous. I did it in December this season. Although the run out has dipped so low now because of the melting.
Chassoure-tortin is not the steepest run in Verbier. I don't want to entice people into danger so I'll say no more. And it's not 3300. Front side of Mt Fort was entirely skiable in January 2023. And the narrator has atrocious pronunciation of the names.
Is it the same as the Chanrossa. I reme´mber that beeing awsome too
Done two. Made it down Harikari without too much trouble. Fell once on Swiss Wall but ground to a halt several times where legs refused to turn! The start of that is the really tough bit first time.
I skied the Lauberhorn, which is a pretty crazy run. And close to that you have a run from the top station of the Schilthorn, which is also very very steep.
Lauberhorn is the longest world-cup run. but there is another, shorter run also called Lauberhorn. And yes, Schilthorn is also quite nice.
It takes me back when I was a child and were skiing with my dad and my older brother. We started our day in Les Crosets then in the afternoon when we had to take the swiss wall to go back, my dad told us to my brother and I to wait before skiing on the swiss wall. He skied 10 meters then clip off his ski and walk back up to us and told us :"too icy even for you" (we were already quiet the good skiers).
and he was right, the day after a woman lost her life on this slope.
Interesting list. Good work.
However, it looks like an alps ranking more than Europe's ranking.
Honestly, I've never been skiing in those resorts of your list. I hope it in future.
I have two questions:
Have you consider other Mountain range apart Alps?
Have you consider the slope "Tubo de la zapatilla" in Candanchú ski resort (Spanish side of Pirinees)?
"Tubo de la Zapatilla" has an average of 65% with a top of 90% and has a quite narrow part.
Anyway, thanks for your work and effort.
Me ha flipado bastante la obsesión con los Alpes cuando los Pirineos son más jóvenes y, por lo tanto, más empinados
I skied Tortin many years ago. There were no moguls that day, the snow conditions were excellent, and it was wide open and very steep. My best ever skiing memory. But with moguls and hard snow, my memory would be entirely different.
The backside of Mont Fort requires some some attention when it comes to most usual skiing routes in Verbier. It includes some some possibility a fall from a clif. Tortin in just a steep bowl filled with moguls. You can see where to go all the way down.
I ran The Streif, it was insane how huge the bumps get there around lunch time. Literally the size of a human
I was in Kitzbuhel for 3 or 4 days in 1980. On the last day at about 2 PM I was skiing in the powder and broke a ski right in front of the toe piece. The top layer and base did not break and I did not realize it was broken until I got out on the groomed run and noticed my tip was about 2 inches above the snow. I had yet to ski The Streif and since this would be my last run at Kitzbuhel I just had to do it so that I could say I went down the run that I had seen so many pros do. The run starts out steep and then gets steeper at the point I think they call the mousefall. It was all moguls but I shuttered to think that the racers did it in a tuck.
Done all except for the Tunnel run. Will do one day.
Love the Swiss wall and La Grave.
I am sure Ischial also has a icey steep groomed run also.
ischgl has a run thats around 37 degrees and is icy i think its the hardest there
I’m noticing the hardest runs in Canada and America are much more extreme then the ones I am seeing here. For Canada we don’t rate it black unless it isn’t groomed it is VERY rare that a black diamond (maybe a red or black for Europe) would be groomed. Some of Canada’s runs just straight up drop off cliffs. There is still extreme runs there of course I just mean the lower ones on the list for sure don’t seem crazy extreme. Of course we have the double black and triple black to represent almost impossible so that could be why. Could just be the terrain.
Skied the swiss wall many times and Tortin a couple of times (considering I live in the USA I was surprised to have done 2/7 on your list). They are far from the steepest in or out of bounds pistes but they are both about endurance. If you can stay on your feet the first 10 meters (moguls over your head on Chavanette, rocks on Tortin), then you have the skills for the rest of the run. They both maintain a steep grade the entire way down and if you are not in good shape your quads will be on fire.
Similar to Harakiri is ''Langer Zug'' in Arlberg austria (Lech & St Anton) its one of the steepest prepared slopes in the world with a part being 80% gradient. Falling will definitely make you slide down all the way. I've skied it a couple of times and almost every time the snow was great so it was quite easy.
I was at the Swiss wall a few years ago, I did the off piste below the cliffs flat line from top to bottom it was either 9 or 13 seconds I can’t remember. Good fun though.
Very interesting!
Thank you!
I skied Streif a day after the official race and it was insane
The Zwölfer-Nord Abfahrt in Saalbach Austria is a groomed slope with a gradient of 81% or 39 degrees. i consider it the steepest i have ever snowboarded on
I clocked 101.5 kph at the Presena Glacier but that was only because there was a long slightly uphill run off at the end which gave me the confidence to hit that speed
I got 129.7km. On 110mm powder skis. Never tracked myself on my slalom skis
Just did Tortin run in Verbier last week. It took us all of an hour to do the entire thing with all of our breaks and what not, as a group of snowboarders these runs were very difficult as there are a lot of moguls. The view was amazing, did it a few times of the course of 3 days. This trail starts at the peak of Mont Fort. At that peak you can climb 3-4 flights of stairs to get an amazing view of the surrounding mountains.
Did you try the Mont Gele to tortin? Ive been to Verbier a couple of times and i think thats probably the hardest slope, but the view from up there is insane:)
@@mathiasborg4707 maybe! I'll have to look it up. I don't remember any of the names to be honest. Let me get back to you
If you started at the top of Mt Fort and then skied all the way down, then you didn't snowboard down the run commonly called "Tortin" but instead the run called "Gentianes". They are both quite difficult, though I definitely prefer the latter.
@@jeanpauljhYou are totally right. And only Mt fort start at 3300m and not Tortin. But in the video it is feature of Tortin and not Mt fort or Col des Gentianes.
And in my opinion the start of Mt Fort clearly can be the trickiest of Verbier domains when the snow is not good.
@@mathiasborg4707mont gelé is just amazing
Nice show few important slopes are missing especially the one located in chamonix valley
What about The Wall or "Väggen" in Sweden? It has a steepness of 45 degrees
I’ve done most of these runs. Pretty easy for me, but I can understand why mere mortals might struggle.
surprised the rennstrecke on the Rettenbach gletsjer in the Ötztal is not mentioned here
I haven't skied any of these but , , , when I went to Chamonix to climb routes in Gaston Rebuffat's "The Mont Blanc Massif, The 100 Finest Routes" that is a guide to mountaineering routes, I was surprised to see a similar title addressed to skiers. Imagine my surprise to see some routes where in both books. There are ski tracks to be seen under the gondola to the Aiguille du Midi. You don't want to fall here.
Chavanette is is Switzerland. The ridge that it starts from is the border. Go down the other side into france, but the swiss wall goes into Switzerland. The marker poles also use the swiss style and the lift is operated by the Swiss lift company. It's in Switzerland, there's no debate.
Did the Grand Couloir on a snowboard. Its steep but in heavy powder you can bomb it down better than on skis. Its the getting to it but you can approach from either side depending on how you get up there. Stick to the left though, otherwise you do the other black (telephone). You can get caught out and have to climb out 3 ft snowfield. So worth it though. As far as black runs this is not so bad.
I ski in Alpe D’Huez every year and one of my favourite memory’s is of my sister falling at the top of La Tunnel and not stopping till she was at the lift at the very bottom. It was all very funny until I realised that I had to ski down the entire run with both her skis and poles.
I snowboarded down valle blanche 2023 (chamonix) fromPunta Helbronner (Courmayeur). There was no fresh powder for weeks but did it anyway. I consider myself an expert snowboarder, but that icy run took all day. Had to walk 1/4 of the run (everyone who went down valle blanche had to) because there was no snow to ski on. only rocks. It was more a physical than technical run, but still took all day with no breaks for lunch or anything. Ordinary people almost fainted from exhaustion while hiking towards the kiosk before the last traverse run down to Chamonix city. Higher up on the mountain was mostly giant icy moguls and if you fell on the easy parts, you had to walk because the slope is either steep or flat as a pancake. Even with perfect conditions, those kind of glacier runs are more for people who seek something different, rather than the perfect poweder run. Valle blanche is not steep enough for me if there would have been powder snow. Maybe 20% had potential for some good powder turns.
I’m skiing right now in alpe d‘huez and I was intending on going to the tunnel piste this week on pretty bad rental skies.. wish me luck😂😂
The Swiss wall is insane. I thought I'd go for a nice relaxing ski on a long run from Les gets all the way over to Switzerland.... boy was I mistaken, I knew when I hit the wall, maybe that's why they call it the wall! 🤣🤣 good fun though😂
Harakiri (35 degrees) is def not the steepest groomed slope in Europe! Ekspert'n in Trysil/ Norway (45 degrees) and Chocken in Idrefjäll/ Sweden (46 degrees) are way steeper.
How do they groom the chocken
@@VIPX122 with a snow groomer fixed on metal ropes
Yeah, Chocken in Idre, now that's steep! Main thing to watch out for there is people and skis falling down the slope 😂
@@alistairmccann6505 i was in idre not long ago and I dont even know where the chocken is
It's furthest east, just to the right of the Ost 4:an lift.
How about Piculin at Kronplatz (Dolomites, Italy). It has a gradient of 72%.
I am certainly missing Kar-Rinne, Diretissima or Seilbahn-Rinne on the "Nordkette" in Innsbruck. They are semi-official as they are only classified as a variant but nevertheless i believe they should be considered here. You can find some videos here on YT about them
i love the streef in kidsboohool!
le fameux "gwand couillord" sacrée piste celle la
Lorenzital in Bran-Vorarlberg-Austria. i's only about 200m but it's so steep you can touch the snow by stretching your arm horizontal. and you almost have to go flat out or you'll be walking for a long way afterwards.
Yikes 😵💫
The Grand couloir doesn't start at 3100m but at 2740m
Dude that France shit, well done!
nobody: me in a resort with the worst snow ever that makes this look fun.
Saw my sister tumbling all the way down the tartin once. She didn’t break anything at least. Also I’d say the mont gelé or mont fort are more difficult but idk. They’re both in verbier as well.
Jackson Hole is an off piste run that’s fairly nuts. La Grave is a place really not to be messed around with, she’s a beast and the cafe next to the cemetery before the lift is an ominous reminder.
when i was a teen i took the wall three times in an hour. Great fun but very fastly done. and this was in the pre carving ski area with 1.92 m rossignol s7 oh what i life
I first did grand couloir at 9 years old, since then it's always been my favorite despite moving onto to even more challenging off piste lines
Did the swiss wall with some friends, was the only one that could go straight down without falling until the end. Very fun :)
I love his french pronunciation :)
Harakiri, Austria is actually not the steepest groomed slope in the world. Trysil in Norway has a slope which is 45 degrees compared to Harakiri which is 35 and both are groomed
I've been on Harakiri several times, because it's the easiest way to get to the other side of the mountain to the snow park. It's usually very icy and you gotta really bend your knees when on snowboard. It's not THAT hard. Altough seeing people fall on the middle of it and seeing them accepting defeat of stopping and just sliding all the way down is hilarious :D Next time i'm in Mayrhofen, i might try to do a top speed run, my fastest speed yet is 85km/hr on snowboard.
we have two runs at our ski area in Alaska that would be harder than some of these if they were longer. neither of them can be groomed because of how steep they are, and they are only single black diamonds.
When your are 11 and your stepdad loves skiing, so by 12/13 you've done the first two. I am absolutely blessed to have learned how to ski and the places we went, it is a privilege to ski, a fact not lost on me. The swiss wall is one of my most memorable holidays and I still speak of conquering it to this day. Peace, and take care on those slopes people.
I did the tunnel when i was 12 and tbh i didn't find it extremely hard, i found 'la face de Bellevarde' in val d'isere harder to do.
Literally on the bus on my way to Mayrhofen now. I’ll let you know how the hari-kari is!!!!!
Cool! Let us know!
If you've ever skied the Swiss wall, you will notice the border station at the top. Also, borders never run haphazardly through mountainous terrain. They always follow the crests and sometimes rivers. I have never heard of a debate whether the Swiss wall was in France or not. I guess the only people who say it's in France never actually went there. It's impossible to miss that it is in Switzerland. And, oh yeah, you can only take the lift back up if you have a pass that covers the Swiss part of the resort.
i am 16, skiied suisse wall multiple times, first did it when I was 11
Numbah 7: Any slope when its cloudy so you wanna take your goggles off, but theres still a little sun left so you can't
In the comments, nobody mentioned the Tiger Run on the Wasserngrad in Gstaad. It is said to be sustained 45 degrees and groomed. I have done it a few times, but the best thing about it (as is many on this list) is the access to great back country.
Tortin is super fun. You actually have 2 itineraries that go to Tortin.
Take care brother
At 67 and a mature beginner, I'm sadly now way to old to tackle any of them, as I'd be in my 70's before I have the necessary skill base. 😢
My fave run is Le face in Val d isere. A tough test of your all round skills ability and stamina
That’s a good one as well! Thanks for sharing
yup, these can be challenging :)
In Sweden we have the steppest gromd run chocked its is 45 degree
Alyeska ski resort in Girdwood Alaska with many runs over 45 degrees and off piste... and as people say "if you can ski Alyeska you can ski anything"
yeah nothing on this list is anything close to runs at alyeska or anywhere in the north americas
You missed canalone in Madesimo (italy) , its a vertical 1000 slope starting from 3000 and arriving at 2100 covered by moguls
Couldn't have covered all nice and interesting slopes, thats why only the "most famous" ones made it to the list.
We can enjoy our "secret" possibly even better slopes in peace.
“The name suggests that it is located in Switzerland but we won’t be the judge of that”. You know was suggests that the slope is actually located in Switzerland and is the judge of that? A MAP!! How hard could have it been to juste open a map a check it?
My top 5 are la face in Val d’isere, la Saulire grand Couloir in Courchevel, Cime Caron in Val Thorens, Mont d’or in Verbier then Jackson Hole. le Tunnel but is a small wall. La grave in not fun as too slow. In Tigne better off piste can be found. Kitsbul was disappointing to me.
Cime Caron is one of the best Blacks I've ever skied. Spend an afternoon lapping it. Trolles at Tignes was also fantastic, but I found the ungroomed Oeillet a tough one.
As a 17 year old I skied down Harikiri in windy conditions and the snow was sometimes at the hight of my knees but it was fun at the a end of the day. Before the windy day we tried the offroad bit under the lift and it was so much fun.
I’ve skied down tortin
This video is very over the top, the streif piste that is open to the public is actually not that hard, it is even a red "familien abfahrt". 1km away is a piste that is just as steep as your "steepest piste in the world" at 78%.
I confirm that the swiss wall is indeed on the swiss territory.
More like 140 km/h in Kitzbuhel.
My brother is a ski instructed and made me go down the one in tortin
Hey, I have run 4 slopes you mentionned. (actually 3 + La Grave counting for 3 different Combes , since you are talking of runs) and La Grave is definitely the best place (and most dangerous) to ride in Europe. some places are deff. stepper than 45°. And for the anecdote, durring the annual Derby, the record is set at 7min to go down the 1800m Drop.
Le Couloir dela Sarenne is very funny. Le mur suisse a bit boring since you cannot take iny speed due to the moguls.
But you missed quite a lot of nice ones: Bellevarde in Val d'Isere (Olympic descente), The Streif, Kitzbühel, Austria ...
Nice selection and video footage. It is insane though how the speaker butchered the pronunciation of literally every run name and every village name in every language! Do your research, it is not that hard.
Boo hoo hoo 😢 oh no he pronounced it wrong 🥺
Ive done the streif run this week and it is pretty easy. Not as hard hard as people say it is. It was very icy though
I don’t know about that run but I’ve skied the Swiss Wall a couple of times and seen it once before just as they shut it for safety. It was way steeper at the top on that occasion and just guessing but I think it’s down to the snow pack and how it’s been blown onto the slope. Sometimes making it steeper at different times or seasons.
The problem is that the steepest parts of it are not groomed after ther race, so they can become a mix of ice and moguls, but it depends a lot on the weather.
I think you've missed a country...there are quite few vertical slopes in Italy too...Forcella Staunies in Cortina is breathtaking...la Gran Risa in Val Badia...Direttissima dello Spinale in Madonna di Campiglio
Il Canalone di Madesimo (despite it's not a real slope, it's the best for expert skiers)
La Gran Risa is great but not extreme. In this case you should also add Paradiso at Tonale and Volata at San Pellegrino, but none of them is extreme.
not going to lie.. im from vancouver canada and those slopes look pretty normal
None of these are tough let alone among the toughest. The very first run i ever did in Europe is Gipfel Couloir in Andermatt early season in low snow year. All these runs are beginner runs next to it.
I am 67 and did the Wall decades ago. Never again! There was a sign at the top that says,"Danger du Mort".
I remember black skulls & bones on yellow at the top. When I went down the Wall in `93 or so the Moguls were 2m high, pure ice and it was scary. I basically just went from one Mogul to the next. We saw one guy lose control and he fell 200m and lost consciousness and the Heli had to get him out. But yes, I did it once.
I've found the steepest, most dangerous, to be at Chamonix under the tram, Andermatt under the tram, and Engelberg both under the tram and the Laub area. Did quite enjoy the Swiss Wall, too, watching all the Gapers falling to my left and right 👍▶️
I know Engelberg pretty well, the one under the tram, do you mean the rotair tram?
I actually thought the Laub area to be the ideal beginners off-piste run, its straight, no cliffs, not too steep
I know Chamonix pretty well. Out of curiosity, which of the trams are you talking about?
@@mountainguyy the rotair tram is the rotating gondolas from Stand to Titlis (goes over the glacier)
@@m.hoffman2889 - sorry mate, I was referring to under which tram in Chamonix? The one going up Brevent? L'Aiguille du Midi? The old Grands Montets one that burnt down a few years back? ( I may have replied in the wrong section, instead of direct under tmmsplace )
@@mountainguyy look on fatmap, tick the box free ride. You find interesting routes in chamonix
Chocken in Idre should be on this list! Its 46° \
The most hardest ski run i did was the gamsleitn 2 in obertaurn austria
Man, At mont-tremblant, I ski the 35° expo, and it is easy!
lol i reconiced the tumbnail my brother went over the edge bec he tought it was a red pite until he couldt see the drop
Le Grave is terrifying
What about the Sache in Tignes?