Discogs Disappointments & I Overpaid For This Box Set Big Time!
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2023
- In this video, I show and discuss Discogs record prices I am extremely disappointed with. Some of these records were in print and affordable just a few years back but are now outrageously expensive. I also show a box set that I spent way too much money on but the good news is that you can buy it for a bargain. I show and discuss records and box sets from bands/artists such as Bob Dylan, Billy Joel, Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks, Kelly Clarkson, Freddie Hubbard and more.
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Hi there, Melinda. Great video as always:) I believe that Garth is the best-selling solo artist in the US, but when you take the whole world into consideration, I am pretty sure that Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley are still ahead of him:) Because contrary to Garth, they also have sold a lot of records outside the US:) Anyway, take care and keep up with the wonderful videos !
Brooks is the best selling country artist but like you said Elvis is the best selling male artist of all time which makes me very happy. Thanks for setting the record straight and I apologize for the error.
@@MelindaMurphy it's not an error at all, Melinda. And you have nothing to apologize for because when I see the scope of your collection and music knowledge, I am truly humbled. I wish you a very good day and bless you and yours:)
Slowed down soooo much, I came home with a Buddy Holly 7 record set this afternoon.🤦
By what Ive seen in record in my lifetime I’m pretty sure Andy Williams sold more Vinyl units than ….? Lol
Bing Crosby is the most selling solo artist worldwide , his single " White Chrismas" sold 1 billion copys on its own...
At this point, discogs has done as much harm to the vinyl community as it has done good. It's a good resources for learning about certain pressings and cataloging your own collection; but the prices on the marketplace are bogus. They are volatile and based on arbitrary inflation and opportunistic greed. The ppl defending the prices with lame platitudes of "supply vs demanad" are misguided. Now, ppl are looking at their collections as a hedge fund portfolio instead of as just a collection. These ppl will be sorely disappointed. I think the market on a lot the over hyped stuff that sells for a ton will fall out hard in due time. I find it hard to believe that EVERY record under the sun is automatically worth 50-100%% more than MSRP the second it sells out or is out of print. Discogs is basically in incubator of greedy ppl taking advantage of impulsive ppl with fomo. If you can see through the BS and are patient, you will be rewarded. The vinyl market will crash 2008 style when the rest of economy tanks in the next couple years. Collectable markets bottom out during recessions. The discgs marketplace is just a a giant speculation bubble. It's disgusting that a bunch of greedy adults are hoarding Taylor Swift records and pricing out her young fanbase just cuz they can. Sadly, greed has ruined this hobbie for many people.
A lot of people are being fooled. Collecting Vynil as an investment is probably a bad idea.
LOL
Dismissing Price & Demand is ludicrous. It's exactly what's driving prices of vinyl up & up.
Blame the buyers not the sellers.
The MARKET PLACE is a market place.
Discogs essentially provides which edition you might have, and claiming to own one and therefore selling at that price point, opens the vendor to internet fraud.
I got a Half-speed master, when it was supposed to be a DBX copy. (The vendor worked with me, and comped me a copy of Supertramp's Even in the quietest Moments. We called it even.)😊
@@stevebird9510 That’s ‘vinyl’
As for your theory, it hasn’t proven true yet, so far one can really cash in on vinyl sales. It may be different in the future.
You sound like you’re talking about ebay, you need to spend some time on Discogs and see the difference.
Thank you Melinda for your video, straight from the heart, and please continue to be the vinyl advocate that you are🙏 from France with love 💌
Thank you so much! 😀♥️
Enjoyed your show as always. Thank you
Thank you so much! ♥️😃
I read in the Economist magazine that Taylor Swift - and her team-were somewhat responsible for the Ticketmaster problem. They claimed she was greedy- she tried to sell the most tickets at one time than anyone before her. The system was overwhelmed. I like Swift but I’d rather go to a Pink or Kelly Clarkson concert.But I’m going to get Clarkson ‘s new album on CD.
I did see Kelly Clarkson and she was excellent. Shame on Taylor I'd that is true. She really stressed her fans out. Thank you and take care.
She wouldn’t care. She just put out another version of Midnight’s. She’s greedy as can be. 😢😢😢
Always a pleasure to hear about your love of music.and to see which pressings u have
Thank you so much! 😀
U certainly offer a full & comprehensive overview of the 'reasons' why u feel the way you do... Pretty good channel, Melinda!
Thank you so much!
Went to see Taylor Swift in Philly with Mt daughter on mothers day..hands down one of if not thee best concerts I have ever been to..she played for 3.5 hrs straight extremely talented woman for sure!!
I may not be a Taylor Swift fan but she does have a good work ethic. She doesn't let her fans down.
That's awesome. What a wonderful memory. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
Melinda, another great video. I visited four record stores in the KC area this last week, I walked out not buying anything in any of them. I mostly have everything I want, and I find myself not wanting to pay the price for the items I don’t have. And yes, I’ve bought some cd’s for a fraction of the cost of the vinyl. I’ve also had fleeting thoughts of doing a significant purge to my collection while prices are so high, but my wife talked me out of it.
It would be tempting to sell while the prices are high but I am still loving my records. So many people have said that they are buying more CD'S. That's a very interesting development. 🤔 Thank you for your input. Take care.
Another great video, Melinda! Your excellent points remind me of how glad I am that I bought most of my favorite music some 30-35 years ago @ $0.50 - $5.00 per LP. Back in the 80's kids were bringing bags of their parents LPs in to trade for A single CD. I snapped up as many as I could afford.
First off, I apologize for the delayed response. Yes, I sure wish I had started collecting vinyl back at that time. It must have been so fun to buy records at next to nothing prices. Thank you and take care.
Hello again
I am not so much into jazz but
you made me a little interested through the years.
Shall try this Red Clay...
If I see this Dylan mono box used..... Takecare.....
Let me know what you think of Red Clay. 😀 I hope you find that box set. 🥰 Take care.
Good Afternoon Our Lovely Melinda...
Hello! 😀♥️
The up’s and downs of record prices. The inability to afford some records. The inability to find some records. The anticipation of a repress. The eventual repress and affordability. The digging and the finding. All of these things are paramount to record collecting. If we could easily afford and obtain everything we want then this would be no different than downloading and streaming. The fun of collecting is the hunt. Let’s not advocate for a poachers lifestyle. ❤
Well said! You brought up some excellent points. I love the hunt as well. Sadly, so many of my viewers are really hurting financially and they are having to stop buying vinyl. I just wish we could go back to how things were 4 years ago when we didn't have inflation. Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy I agree! It is becoming harder and harder to justify prices and I'm sure that is discouraging a lot of collectors. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back as the secondary market will become flooded with all these new records in the years to come.
That's exactly it, the anticipation of waiting for an import (live in South africa) on a rare purchase is the thrill of the hobby.
Great video, Melinda. The rising cost of Vinyl has definitely limited my record purchases of late.
Price and storage space has slowed me down and that's probably a good thing in my case. Thank you and take care.
I have an album by Julie London. "Lonely Girl" from 1956. It has a price on it of $3.98. $4.00 is equal to $44.30 today. Something to think about...
I saw Julie's first album in a record store for $50. I kinda wish I would have picked it up.
@@stevebird9510 "Her Name is Julie" from 1955. I have this album, too. I've got to say, she makes love to the microphone.
I do like the point you're making. The original price was for a new record and now it's used but I would never complain about a $4 record. That's a great deal. I agree that new records are about where they should be price wise. Thank you and take care.
Super video, I really enjoyed the angle you took, very nice boxsets, and collectables, I didn't realize Garth was nipping at the Beatles heels in terms of record sales, very cool, I think the first song I heard by him was "The Dance" Thanks for sharing, have a great week.
I apologize Mike. I made an error in this video. When researching the best selling male artist of all time, Garth Brooks is the best selling country artist. Elvis is still the best selling which makes me happy. I will no longer use that source for information. 🫢
The Dance is an incredible song. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
Just wanna say I love The 'In Groove T-shirt. I go there about once a year, when I visit my dad in Phoenix. Dropped a ton of money, when I was there last summer. The Bobby D mono box was a steal, when I picked it up from Amazon, a couple of years ago. Take care, and enjoy the rest of the week.
I hope to go to the 'In Groove someday. I would probably spend too much money as well. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
Hey Melinda nice shirt!! I have the same color!!😌🤘 Yes record prices are going up everywhere, yeah I’m not sure for how long, because I think people will stop buying and drive prices to maybe decline, I’am buying less and more cautiously now myself, great vid, take care👍
Also, don’t forget Shameless and The Dance by Garth🤠🤘
I love this shirt. ♥️ The record sales are starting to slow down. It will be interesting to see what happens. I sure want records to keep selling. A lot of people I care about own record stores. I want them to succeed. Thank you and take care.
Record buying has become more a collector's hobby than a way to build a music collection and that's OK. I'm sure most music lovers will opt for standard copies & CDs of their favorites with maybe a small handful of collectibles on their shelves. I'm on Universal's mailing list & I just bought a brand new reissue of the GoGo's *Vacation* for $8.00 on pink vinyl. So fun stuff is still out there. (Who doesn't love a bargain?)
Wow! What a deal on that Go Fo's album. ♥️ Several people have said that they are buying more CD'S now so I think what you're saying is probably true. Thank you and take care.
Another great video my friend and you got a very nice collection.
Thank you! 😀
@Melinda Murphy your very welcome my friend
In Groove here, In Groove there, In Groove everywhere! I have the same shirt of course. Lol after I saw your video about the Bob Dylan mono box I searched everywhere and couldn’t find it for near the price you were talking about. Oh well, that’s the way the cookie crumbles. Thanks for the video.
Haha! That's funny! This is a very popular shirt. 😀 I hope they repress this box set for a good price. It would certainly sell. Thank you and take care.
Yes! Billy Joel an innocent man should have been on the Billy Joel Greatest Hits volume 1 & 2 LP set.
Definitely should have. It did make it on his Volume 3. 😀
Nobody talks about Captain Jack. That’s my personal favorite!
Great stuff, Melinda! It took me a while to get into Garth, but I haven't picked up "Legacy" as of yet, since I bought the box set of his CDs' back in the late 90s for a song. I do hope he follows through on his promise for more of his alter ego Chris Gaines - love Love LOVE that album, and he says there's unreleased stuff and that it would be coming out but that was back in 2021 and nothing's surfaced yet. I'd even brave the RSD line to get that! Cheers! - TC
I hope he puts out more albums including Chris Gaines. His wife says that's her favorite Garth album. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
All of your remarks in this video hold 100% absolute truth and are spot on! I have been purchasing and collecting vinyl since 5th grade, and am still doing so today as a retired individual. Like yourself, I’ve had many disappointments and overpaid many times over the years. When you have such a love for music, and are a collector besides, the addiction sometimes brings on such a desire that you go ahead and pay the price. This past year or so, vinyl prices have skyrocketed, with most selling at $30 or more for single Lp reissues. Like many others, I now too have put on the brakes, with purchases being limited, with with careful thought. Thank you for showing your examples and sharing your thoughts regarding this topic! 👏🏆😁👍
The price increases have really hit a nerve with everyone. It doesn't help that everything else we need has also gone up in price. I hope this is the high point and record prices come down a little. I certainly don't want the resurgence to die. I love all of the choices that are out there at the moment. Thank you and take care.
I generally buy vinyl from artists I love like Robin Trower, Marillion, Jimi Hendrix and Blondie who released a FANTASTIC box set available at AMAZON for very affordable prices - these are artists that release new material annually I generally don't purchase expensive re-issues or original copies (I have 1500 LPS) I'm on fixed income - I'm so glad you spoke on this issue cause its affecting most of us out here in Vinyland - Great video Melinda!❤
Thank you! I really wanted that Blondie box set last year. It was beautiful. ♥️😀 As always, I appreciate you and your kind comments. Take care.
Higher prices do suck, but it is what it is. What pisses me off more than higher prices is crap quality. About 50-70% of new records are complete crap.. warps, surface noise, non-fill, off center, pops/clicks, and on and on and on. If you are going to charge $40 for a single LP, it better be damn near perfect
I agree. That's also a big problem. I do think they are aware of the problems and the food companies are trying to fix that. It is very frustrating to get a damaged record. Thank you and take care.
Enjoyed this video! I totally agree about buying original CTI records which sound great rather than overpriced re-issues. I think the original Red Clay records go for a little higher because its generally considered the best of the albums he did for CTI but I highly recommend the others - First Light, Straight Life, Skydive - which can all be found $10-20 or even less sometimes. Thanks!
Red Clay is a great album. I didn't realize the original was pricey. I see CTI records often and they are always a great deal. Thank you and take care.
YES...ABSOLUTELY SPLENDID...U Now Have The Vintage Classic FREDDIE HUBBARD/Red Clay...YAY MELINDA...U Have A Musical There!!...
I Had It In On 8Track Tape Then Later Cassette...SO Happy For U...The Title Track Is Marvelous... Congratulations Indeed...
I agree. The tilted track is incredible. I love the album. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy As Do I...One The Splendid Sounds Of 1970...
Lol I am wearing that shirt right now, only in grey and 2XL.
Nice! I love their shirts. ♥️ Thank you and take care!
Hi, Melinda, it's disappointing that the price of records have raised exorbitantly. I never even thought that the price of records would be so expensive. It has gotten to the point, that there are records that are not available to collectors. The one thing that has crossed my mind, is that with the exorbitant prices of records and limited availability of records, is this--are we record collectors being discouraged from buying and listening to records? Ok, I may be wrong with that line of thinking, but it has crossed my mind. As for Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Volumes 1 & 2, I have the original pressing of that record, and yes, it's a very clean copy. The price of records, do indeed, need to come down big-time, so that way, everyone in the vinyl community can buy records. When Hills Deparment store was open, that was the store, where I bought my records. The price for records, was very reasonable and Hills had a great selection of records. I also used to buy my records, at National Record Mart. We need to get back to the reasonable prices of records that you had back at that time. With the exorbitant prices of records, people are not buying records as we have been, it makes me wonder, how are indie record stores able to stay open for business. Record prices need to come down big-time, plain and simple. Take care, Alan
I remember Hill's Department Store. ♥️ That's where I saw the Thriller video for the first time.
I can understand the price of new records for the most part. The price for the materials has risen substantially. The used market is the one that frustrates me. The common records are so expensive now. Thank you and take care.
Very good 👏🏻
Thank you! 😃
Hello Melinda! Great subject. We get your point and agree. We are also in the 3rd category. We have been there the whole time since we got back into vinyl. You know ; Swedish customs , import prices, ”luxury tax” , blablabla , small batches , blablabla and so on. Btw , I still miss that Zeppelin ”Celebration day” on the shelf behind you. Ouch , I got an envious-arrow right in my heart , hahaha. Take care / A&R
Haha! Your comments weren't supposed to be funny but the blablabla made me grin. 😀 Believe it or not, I found that copy of Celebration Day for $30 US at a flea market years ago. I never see deals like that anymore. Thank you and take care.
Melinda, the main take away from all of this is very simple: Cost and Worth are two very different things. What is something worth to you personally? If someone really truly wants something and perhaps it might be their only shot, they're going to pay for it. The price might be high but it's more worth it for the buyer to have that record in their collection then the money they spent on that record in their pocket.
Excellent point. Thank you! 😀
Once again, I think you speak for a large number of us in the vinyl community. The resurgence in vinyl over the past few years has been fueled by unusually high levels of disposable income and people spending an unusually high amount of time at home. As people begin resuming their previous routines that spending will be spread over other activities, particularly if prices continue to escalate as they have. This cycle has already begun if you ask me. Have you noticed how many sale emails we are receiving from vendors who not that long ago were back ordered? Vinyl is bought by music lovers, audiophiles and collectors. As in any hobby there are those who look to unfairly profit by taking advantage of collector's passions. CDs are making a comeback and affordability is a big driver of that. Love your videos. Stay well
You said this perfectly. The pandemic changed our buying habits and now they are coming back down to earth. Thank you for your thoughts. Take care.
Hey Melinda
Once again greetings from Kirby Muxloe, England
Another fine programne
The vinyl market is all over the place with some dirt cheap items and some absolute rip offs!!!
You make a terrific and brave point that not everything sounds better on vinyl and sometimes you are better off saving your money and buying the cd or stream version instead
It is about quality not quantity
Keep that channel going Melinda I love it
Thank you! Some newer albums are better on CD, some on vinyl. The Kelly Clarkson record isn't worth the price people are paying. Thank you and take care.
I have the Billy Joel GH from the 80s. I glad I have my records and CDs I have been buying since I was young. I haven't spent a lot money for theses at the time. Since vinyl is getting expensive, I will be content with what I have.
I am going to see Duran Duran tomorrow night, and really looking forward to this show.
I hope you will still post videos even if you don't buy many records.
You were smart to keep all of your records. Enjoy Duran Duran. That should be an awesome show. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
Another great video Melinda! Prices for new vinyl are too high. $40 for a single LP is way too much. $23 is my limit for a single LP. Discogs is increasingly dominated by scammers, bad policies & lazy sellers. I’ve purchased multiple records on discogs only to be notified it’s no longer available after I’d already paid!
Unfortunately, $23 isn't going to cut it for new vinyl nowadays unless you find a sale. The $40 price point is probably the new normal. Best wishes to you! Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy Acoustic Sounds currently has tons of BlueNote records on sale for $12
Great video Melinda, and you are absolutely right, discogs and what people are paying for records is a travesty! It’s a shame that the young fans of Taylor swift cannot afford her aftermarket vinyl. I too, have slowed down in buying vinyl, it’s just getting too expensive.
It's a shame that the secondary market is continuing to charge so much money for records. They definitely deserve a profit but the prices can be just insane. Thank you and take care.
I read that Bob Dylan and Eddie Vedder got into an argument. No one could understand what it was about...
That's so funny!!! I'll have to share that one with my husband. He'll love it. Thank you and take care.
Running out of shelf space, so have to slow down. Fist covid project was a couple of two shelf/story record record bin/speaker stands. Plan changed and I built two more and thought I’d put my stereo on the top of the four pushed together. Too low, so I built a double deck CD/stereo shelf to go across the top of the four record shelves. Now overflowing the shelves.
It sounds like you have done some amazing projects. I hope you enjoy them. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
I laughed when you said you'd had your Phil.....lol. I have Bob Dylan's first album and I can't remember where I even got it ?
Haha! 😀♥️ The first album is good. He looks like a baby on the cover. Thank you and take care.
Haha I really don’t like Garth Brooks but I do love Country music! Love that Billy Joel and have an OG of it and it sounds phenomenal! Great video Melinda!🎉
The Billy Joel Greatest Hits album is wonderful. ♥️ Everyone should have a copy. Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy Totally agreed!
Dear Ms M. Based upon your highly sound (pun highly meant!) advice, your most ardent fan bought the Bob Dylan box in the middle of your video. I put you on pause to go do the Amazon purchase. I am glad I listened to you...and I am not selling that box no matter how high the prices go. Thank you very much for your wonderful service
That's wonderful! I'm so glad that you are happy with that purchase. I am loving it too. Thank you and take care.
Hey Melinda!
Great video as usual! My thoughts on this, yes, records have become really expensive and prices on Discogs are pretty crazy. I also have an issue with the scams that have seemed to pop up lately on Discogs. People seem to be allowed to advertise albums they don't have or that don't exist for sale at really cheap prices. This is a huge red flag but people new to collecting may not know this and get ripped off. Another reason I've backed off of buying albums is that many record stores do not want to be fair when it comes to someone selling vinyl to them. They offer maybe half, or less, of the lowest price on Discogs to purchase albums then sell them for the medium to high price on Discogs. I understand that they need to make money but the way vinyl is selling now a lot of shops could afford to do better when purchasing albums from collectors or when pricing albums to sell. These factors have definitely driven my decision to stop buying records as much as I used to. I've often thought about opening my own shop and practicing what I preach! Maybe someday in the near future. Thank you so much for what you do! You are a great asset to the vinyl community!!
Thank you for the kind words. It would be interesting to know what the percentage of mark up is on the records we buy. Perhaps the people bringing the records in are demanding more money from the stores. That would definitely explain the price hikes. Thank you and take care.
I have never bought anything off Discogs. The shipping rates are comically high.
Discogs is not a store, it’s a market of people from all over the world, the shipping varies as much as there’s sellers there.. there’s no way you can make a blanket statement about shipping costs on Discogs.
@@bjrnsjohnsen1278 He did. They are all bandits. Blanket statement.
Some sellers will offer free shipping if you spend a certain amount. That helps sometimes. 😀 The shipping does add to the expense. Thank you and take care.
I liked your explanation about it.
Dylan's box and I have seen a website they have it for 290 dollars sealed and I compared it here ahh without shipping costs to the whole world if you want I can pass the link congratulations for the video
That's probably the best deal I have heard for that Dylan box set. I don't need the link but I hope someone that has really been wanting it, will find it. Thank you and take care.
True...When I Purchased FREDDIE HUBBARD/Red Clay Around 1979/1980~I Paid $1 For The 8Track Tape & And Later The Cassette At DollarGeneral...The Record LP Was Around $3 At Either Woolco Woolworth's Or KMart...
Those were the days. ♥️ I miss the Kmart record section. 😀 Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy As Do I...Also Woolco & Woolworths... Where I Purchased Most Of My Records Back Then...From The Bargain Section...$1.99 To $3.99...Some For $1.00...
Discogs is marketplace and does not control prices. Sellers set the price and buyers are willing to pay the high prices. I don’t use Discogs because my security software blocks malware almost ever time I access the site. After 20 years of active collecting, I slowed down my purchases when my collection went over 1000 records. That may not seem like an excessive amount, but I my listening room is only 10’ x 13’. I don’t have room for many more.
I understand. Making room for records can become a hassle and I don't like clutter. Lol. Thank you and take care.
As a long time vinyl collector who lived through the vinyl dump days in the 1990’s. I find this pretty amazing that a formerly discontinued medium could become so valuable. I guess like rare comic books, vinyl is no longer considered a guilty pleasure, but a great investment!!🤑💰💵
We'll see if it becomes a great investment. Old and rare records will definitely keep their value. All of these reissues are probably not going to. Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy I would just remind everyone to collect for enjoyment. Never for investment. There are certain artists that will remain, but many of them will eventually go away and probably make some of our current records worthless to most people. Collect for listening, but probably not for retirement.
Hi Melinda, I remember seeing your review of the Dylan in mono box set, and I've been looking for one ever since. I just saw one in the wild at a store in Madison, WI. The condition was not that great and the price was still $300 plus tax. I love Dylan, but I have most of these albums in good to great condition so I decided to pass. Hopefully there will be a repress one day. I sure hope a Beatles in mono would happen at some point, just like the Rolling Stones in mono was reissued in color. Thank you and have a great short week!
There is so much demand for The Beatles in Mono. They would be crazy not to do it again. I do hope the Dylan box set gets a repress. Thank you and take care.
these companies are price gougers at their best lol. i cant pay that much for records that are big dissapointments . ill just stick with my cds. great video as always beautiful melinda. hope you had a great memorial day
Memorial Day was great. We spent most of our time doing work around the house getting it ready for summer. 😀 Thank you for the kind words. Take care.
@@MelindaMurphy awesome 👌 take care too melinda
i use discogs frequently and if im ever looking for records or a old box set i would normally use the category section and put the condition as vg or vg+ and i have been able to actually get them for good deals.
That's wonderful. I do like Discogs in so many ways. I'm sure great deals can still be found. Thank you and have a great weekend.
The first record I ever sold on my own Discogs account was a clean copy of that Billy Joel Greatest Hits I & II back in 2013 - for $4.99! And the funny part is I couldn't believe someone would pay that much (plus $4 shipping) for it! It seemed like such a "bargain bin" record. Then over the next few years my friend who also sells on Discogs kept telling me what a hot title it was becoming. We both couldn't believe it!
The originals now sell for $40 to $50, sometimes more. It's crazy. 🫢 Thank you and take care.
Hey Melinda 👋 Geez! $400 or so for that mono Dylan box?! Woh… I picked mine up because of Rachel too, and it was about the same you paid. I feel fortunate that I’ve been collecting for as many years as I have. Otherwise, I’d NEVER be able to afford the records I’ve got now. They just go for too much on the secondary market.
Like you, I pretty much feel like I’ve got most of the records I really want, but it took years to track some of em down. It really is unfortunate and discouraging that people who are new to the hobby (obsession…lol) aren’t able to pick up the records they’ve looking for, but then again, the hunt is a huge part of the fun. Bargains are getting much rarer but are still out there.
Thanks Melinda. Great vid 👍🔊🎶
We bought most of our records before the prices climbed up. I do feel for new collectors. On one hand the selection has never been better but we are definitely paying a lot more. Thank you and take care.
One of my best "impulse" buys was while standing in the line on RSD 2018 and I grabbed the first 3 Taylor Swift releases off an endcap which were limited to 3750 copies each. I've also bought all of the RSD releases since. I should probably unload all of them someday, but they just keep increasing in value which is nuts to a casual TS fan.
I bought those Taylor Swift records as well. I traded one for some jazz records but still have the rest. Who knew they would become so valuable? Crazy. Thank you and have a great weekend.
Melinda, another energizing video. I always love your sincerity and dedication to staying as positive as possible. The world needs that. Question: Does Discogs offer the ability to see what items have sold for or what actual selling prices are trending at rather than asking prices? eBay gives potential buyers/sellers that opportunity. Whether buyers or sellers actually look at it though is another question. I feel bad for newbies getting ripped off, but that’s why we need to continue to educate them. If Discogs does allow access to genuine sales prices realized, please try to mention it in a future video. Have a nice weekend and a great everything! -Glen
I do believe you can look up some of the past history on Discogs although I have never personally done that. Thank you and enjoy your weekend.
Hi Melinda good video. I got what was suppose to be a mint condition original 2 LP standard release of that Billy Joel set on Discogs for $50 2 years ago. Dirtiest record I’ve ever gotten, lol and it inspired me to buy my record cleaning machine. Fortunately after cleaning it my B. Joel records are definitely Mint and sound absolutely Fantastic! The Mofi version isn’t necessary at all, the original sounds audiophile in its own right! I agree I always hated that they didn’t include An Innocent Man. I’d trade Goodnight Saigon for that one in a heartbeat 😆. As for Garth, I’ve only wanted his debut album and That one is Ridiculously priced on Discogs! So I’ll probably never own it. I’m not dropping hundreds on a country record. But that debut album holds a special place in my heart. Someday… Anyway take care
I am glad you have the Billy Joel record in mint condition. ♥️ An Innocent Man is such a beautiful song.
Garth definitely needs to put out his debut album. I can't understand what the hold up is. 🤔 Thank you and take care.
Very clear your video, prices are going crazy but the reason is because there are still people willing to pay for it....
This is true! People are paying the higher prices so why not keep asking them? 🤔 Thank you and take care.
I have totally lost inte4rest in vinyl because of the crazy pricing. even the local thrift places are getting ridiculous I will just enjoy what I have and maybe it will get better.
I hope we are at the peak price and things will start to simmer down soon. Let's hope! 😀 Thank you and take care.
Another great video and I'm glad to see you hammering, in a nice way, on the ridiculous prices of records. $150-200.00 for a record, never in a million years. Albums are meant to be bought and put on a turntable and be listened to, period. I have bought many, many records in my life but never sold any, whatever I don't want I will donate to my favorite record store expecting nothing in return with no regrets. Anyone willing to invest should look into Wall Street and not limited #ed box sets.
I agree. It's best to not treat a record collection like it's an investment. Thank you and take care.
What?! How is “Innocent Man” not on a Billy Joel greatest hits? I think that’s a great song. Yeah I just shake my head at some vinyl prices. Discogs pricing mean little to me. A record to me is only worth what I would be willing to pay for it, and I have to be sensible about that. I hear all the time how “now this record is worth this much!”. Well first you have to be able to find that person who’s willing to pay that price. And you better do it now because I guarantee this bubble will burst. You always put out great videos MM. You have a high standard. Have a wonderful week and stay cool because it’s going to be a hot one!
Thank you for the kind words. I like what you said. A record is only worth what we are willing to pay for it. 😀 Innocent Man should have definitely made the cut on this greatest hits LP. Someone else said it is on his Volume 3 album. Thank you and take care.
G’day Melinda thank you for pointing out the Garth Brooks box set, I only have In Pieces on CD, my brother in law gave it to me because he didn’t like it when it came out and from the opening track I was in with country rock style, I search for the box set down here in Australia but $179 was the cheapest price but finally sourced one on Discogs for $70 land here in Melbourne not $20 like you lucky people in the states. As you said the price of records has slowed many people from purchasing like we used to and I feel this could be detrimental on the vinyl sales leading to its down fall again. The other thing I noticed Garth’s catalog is only available on Amazon music to stream. Did your box set come with the cd’s aw well which this makes the whole package an absolute steal. thanks again all best from down under 🦘😊 Martyn
Yes, my set came with CD's as well. I hope you are able to find the box set at a decent price. Thank you and take care. 🤗♥️
Great video and this is JJ under my new name cause I am now sober for 9 Mos and in recovery...to clarify Billy Joel GH 1 & 2 had Your Only Human and While the night is Still Young new songs on it in order to sell it...Billy Joel did put Innocent Man on GH 3 which I hope gets a vinyl reissue its has To make you feel my love and hey girl as new releases.
Hi JJ! Congratulations on your recovery. ♥️ I hope the Greatest Hits 3 gets a vinyl release soon. That would be great. Thank you and take care.
nice buy; i need this too..but 400 USD its crazy....
I agree. I hope it gets a repress. Thank you and take care.
I always appreciate your videos Melinda. Thank you! I would not be so upset myself, especially these days, to see an out of print 13 year old boxset costing that much. I get the frustration. There are so many records all of us wish we would have bought when they were 5-10x cheaper than the going rate. It sucks, but that’s life and the open market. There are only 6 copies for sale in the whole world including eBay on that Bob Dylan boxset. Supply and demand. I do agree they should repress it. But just like the Beatles boxset, that was up for sale for a loooong time(for too cheap really)up until a couple years ago. Beatles box was $350 I believe back then and now goes for $1000 minimum. The Dylan 13 year old “out of print” boxset at $400 for 10LPs is not that crazy to see. Supply and demand. They should repress both really. Too many people want them ;-). Please don’t take this the wrong way. I just think there are multiple ways of looking at things.
I like your perspective. You're right. I just feel bad for people just now getting into vinyl. Everything is so much more expensive. I see young people trying to find records they can afford and it's really hard. I do understand that supply and demand is how it works. Thank you for the positive spin. Take care.
Awesome video my friend
Thank you!
I have the original Billy Joel greatest hits on vinyl being a huge fan I bought it when it came out I I also have the cd box set version
I love that you still have your original copy. ♥️😀 Thank you and take care.
I sold a Dylan Mono box set (not sealed) on TOVAG a few months ago, it auctioned for $180. I was pleased.
Very nice! You both got a great deal out of that. 😃
I only buy a few albums a month. I have a couple records on preorder but, I’m not buying as much. Plus like you just said. Records are getting very expensive.
I started easing off buying vinyl. Pick up CD's at the sally Anne. It's about the joy of the hunt!
I agree. I do enjoy digging too. 😀♥️
Vinyl is no longer affordable for people on a modest income and the high prices have certainly put off young people. I no longer buy vinyl and am enjoying cds more than ever now.
So many people are saying this. CD's are becoming a great alternative. They are inexpensive at the moment as well. Thank you and take care.
I see artists putting a lot of effort into good looking CD packages lately. Nice trend!
Vinyl prices have virtually doubled in the last 18 months, yet CD prices haven't moved at all in 20 years. Makes you think.
As long as the market supports crazy price points, there will be no motivation to bring prices back to earth.
That's true! If we will pay it, why should it change? 🤔 Thank you and take care.
What do I think? I ain't goin' down till the sun comes up. Much thanks!
I used to do that song at karaoke. It was a lot of fun because it goes so fast
I love that song. ♥️ Thank you!
like the bob dlyan box set have the best of billy joel never got any thing of discogs get all mine from a record shop in town like to check the vinyl some for you to look out for thunder back street symphony saxon wheels of steel or denim and leather
Very cool! The box set is amazing. Thank you and take care.
We're essentially six months into the year, and Mobile Fidelity still hasn't released 'Hotel California', 'The Long Run', or any of the Van Halen One Steps. My concern is that they are going to release these all around the same time towards the end of the year, meaning we're going to get hit with five or six (or more), on our cards during the Holidays. I really hope MFSL will start to spread the One Steps out over time on a more consistent basis. As always, I thoroughly enjoyed your video!
For the price of 1 new Mobile Fidelity “One-Step” you could probably grab 5-10 OG copies in many shops.
That would be a nightmare scenario. I have heard that we may be getting Hotel California in June but that information didn't come from MoFi. I do hope they are spread out and not around the holidays. Thank you and take care.
I think many people's vinyl buying habits have changed for the same reasons you have mentioned here. That's why I was always a vinyl picker, buying used and amassing a nice mostly OG collection, white label promos, early reissues etc. that didn't require me sell other stuff to pay for it. BTW, most Discogs sellers are not moving the merch. Look up any title you like and you will see many many posts for that title.
You bring up an interesting point. The high end records with crazy prices are probably just sitting there. 🤔 Maybe the sellers will get the hint. Lol.
@@MelindaMurphy Although there are some great sounding AP and Mobile titles I own but I bought those years ago. Some of the reissues are really good and I like what Chad does- great Bernie Grundman mastering.
In the theme of not spending a fortune on records, here is what $19.00 bought yesterday at a thrift store near me: Chuck Berry Bio, Dan Folgelberg Souvenirs, Wes Montgomery A Day In The Life, Fantastic Feliciano, Kris Kristofferson Me and Bobby McGee, Carly Simon Anticipation and Bobby Bland & B.B. King Together Again..... Live. All in very good conditions including the jackets and original inner sleeves, not bad!
That's inspiring!!! ♥️ Way to go!!!!
Great video. I for the most part avoid box sets. Still a lot of bargains that are out there under the radar the Pablo label for instance. Right now I am listening to the amazing jazz guitar of Jos Pass Live At Donte's a double album I got in my local shop in great condition for all of five bucks.
I used to see some of those Pablo label records. I should have picked them up. ☹️ Thank you and take care.
DG is where I bought my GB box set. I paid $29 for mine. I wish the ropin’ the wind album was on lp as well.
I do hope he puts more of his discography out on vinyl. You got a great deal for that box set. 😀 Thank you and take care.
Hi Melinda, CTIs are a sweet spot for good and well recorded Jazz. All Hubbard is extremely well done, great music. Creed Taylor always had a vision I believe, no matter what label he was working with, and artist. It's always been consistent. And Freddie is simply out of this world. Get 'em all. Cheers
I will be picking up more of them in the future. They are so good and affordable. Thank you and take care.
I want a copy of Behavior by The Pet Shop Boys. But, I can’t even find it on vinyl anywhere. I’ll play $20.00 for it
I have a few trusted sellers on Discogs that I frequent but the majority of prices are literally insane, same with my local record shops. I've been fortunate enough to find some phenomenal albums at my local thrift shops and flea markets, finding NM and VG + deals for anywhere from $1 to $10 (including a barely played original All Things Must Pass for $5) There's the occasional VG I'll buy for a buck and chance cleaning it thoroughly just to have a particular pressing. I get the occasional beater that can't be saved but it's worth the risk.
It sounds like you have found some amazing deals. The All Things Must Pass is a crazy deal. 😮♥️🔥 Thank you and take care.
The Dylan box still seems to pop up on eBay for reasonable prices sometimes. I managed to get mine for $260 plus tax and $10 shipping last summer, which I think was fair. Retail price now would be $270 according to the usual online stores. $120 was a crazy good deal!
That was a very fair price and well worth it. Sometimes I get a crazy good deal and sometimes I pay too much for a Garth Brooks box set. 😆 Thank you and take care.
There are a few CTI records that have medium value. The original Red Clay being one of them. Original Red Clay in good condition commonly goes for 50+
I had no idea it was a sought after record. It's definitely a great album. Thank you and take care.
I completed ✔️ my Barry White collection at a local record store..and I paid no more than $3.00 for each of the records I wanted. Because I wasn’t old enough to buy the original copies back in the 1970’s. But, this was probably 10 years ago. I’m sure Discogs is changing super crazy prices for them now. I still missing one.
Very cool!
Yes, I noticed it on Discogs as well. I use Discogs strictly as a gauge (and then vale the record at a more true value in my own mind. Basically, I stand fast on my records being no more than what I paid for them at first regardless of cleaning and restoration, That's just me though. As you know I place no monetary value on records). I looked up a few records I already have making sure to narrow down to the matrix code, condition, etc. to get the exact copy or as close as possible. Most of the records I looked up were selling for what I paid for them. But a couple in terrible condition that I paid $1 are now going for $5! Really, as I mentioned to you before, $5 for a record that may be unplayable or not restorable?
There is absolutely no excuse for the prices we are seeing on used vinyl. What is also strange is that I notice the prices on new vinyl have not followed, in other words they have not gone up. Basically, used vinyl in any condition is now the same price as new vinyl.
The Bob Dylan box set price is due to it being out of print and it is unknown if there will be another run - so that example shows us the reason it is $400+ now. So there we have a reason. Do I think $400+ is fair? No and I would not have even paid $110 for such a thing (I like Dylan, but I'm not a big enough fan to justify it), but it is what it is. The "Out of print" thing is the factor. I have CDs that I paid $12 for that are now out of print and you will not find one of them less than $200! IF they ever do another run of that box set, the price will come down to at least $200 to $250 retail, but if what we are seeing in the used market continues any used copies will be $200 to $250 as well, which would not make any sense.
In the case of Taylor Swift stuff, she is nothing more than a grifter and something else I won't mention. She is not the person she puts on in public, but many are fooled. Of course, she is not unique either, we see examples of this throughout industries, starting with politics. She just happens to be good at it. She tries to have control over every aspect of her job, so the question is: Since Swift claims to have say over ticket prices, merch, and everything but record prices, why does she not speak up and honor her fans? Yeah, we hear about her gifting fans and showing up at weddings or whatever by surprise, but again, that is all smoke and mirrors. If she really cared about her fans and such she would make sure things were set right.
There is precedent: While the band Rush has almost no say in ticket prices, mech prices, etc. They do act on anything urgent as best they can, all it requires is an authorization really. Example: Rush put out their album Vaper Trails and the first huge run had major problems, the mastering was a train wreck and the thing sounded awful in all formats, it was released anyway. The band heard about it and went on to tell the fans what was going on and why it was so bad and all (there were some tragedies and such we learned about), but then they took it to the next level, they went back in with a different mastering engineer and remastered the record and then authorized a distribution of vouchers for all who purchased copies from the original run and set things up with retailers. All one had to do was show the receipt for the album they bought and a shiny new remastered copy was sent to them free of charge! This proved the stories of how Rush treats their fans. They realize that they would not be so well-off today without their fans from small to large. (Yes, I was one who purchased from the bad run and did indeed get a replacement for free via voucher).
As for that particular Swift LP: Swift or any other artist has zero control over prices retailers charge for their records new or used, so we can't blame her on that to be fair. It is the retailer or seller that holds the blame. For that particular LP if it was 7000 copies worldwide that is actually a very low number for global distribution. It is even low for nationwide distribution. Normal nationwide distribution of mass market LPS is in the tens of thousands first run! I have a box set from Mannheim Steamroller that fluxes between $46 and $250 and there were 30,000 of them made and it is long out of print. So by comparison 7000 on a run is very small, especially for global distribution. That said, $700 for any LP by any artist is criminal!
Garth Brooks example: Popularity also has something to do with record prices although it does not explain what we are seeing lately in some cases. For example: Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass LPs, there must be trillions of copies and beyond and up until two months ago you couldn't give them away. Now all of the sudden, they are going for $5 in terrible condition and nearly $10 in decent condition! Sadly, death also has an effect on prices. If Garth Brooks were to die tomorrow that box set would be at least $275 overnight for a while and would come down after two years to three years. I have been waiting for Bowie LPs to come down and they were starting to a few months ago ending up only around $5 to $10 away from what I was willing to pay, but now, good luck finding any Bowie LP for less than $200 used. (Personally, I can't stand what has been passed off as Country over the last 23 years, it is NOT country and I'm not a fan of Brooks of course, so $20 for the box set to me personally is of no interest)
Remember, it is not just Discogs sellers it is record stores and everywhere where we are seeing impossible unjustified pricing of used records all of the sudden. There is NO excuse for it. The prices we are seeing now on used records are not disappointing, we passed that long ago at breakneck speed. What we see now is "Disgusting"!
As for what I think in my collection that everybody should be able to own where the prices are now out of reach or disgusting: Answer: My entire collection of vinyl records qualifies for that (all 750+ or whatever it is)!
What a record is worth on market right now is irrelevant because as soon as one goes to sell it one will be hard pressed at least to get anywhere close to what the value is claimed to be. That $250 record is really worth $5 when one goes to sell it. (I have no concern on this particular aspect personally, since I will never sell any one of my records).
It will be interesting to see if Taylor maintains the amount of popularity she enjoys today. She has been around for a while now. I so wish she (and other artists) would stay out of politics.
Thank you and take care.
Not A Country Fan...But That Garth Brooks Box Was Even Available At Our Local Grocery Store: Winn Dixie...😀😀Now Only $20...I Can Gift It To Someone...
Haha! My goodness. 😀
Hi Melinda Great video!!!! I do not understand but everything Taylor Swift is expensive. Even on Ebay, for some reason Taylor's recordings are more expensive then Any other artist and I don't understand why?
She is extremely popular with young people. They love her. ♥️ Thank you and take care.
hi melinda the rsd taylor swift lp were limited to 3750 were did this 7000 come from.
There were 3,700 in the US but 7,000 worldwide.
I’ve slowed way down due to cost. I know of a few friends that don’t buy vinyl anymore because of the price, I feel if they the price gets to out of control people are going to stop collecting vinyl but that’s just my option Take care
Sales have slowed down quite a bit. Record store owners are starting to notice. It's a shame but the high cost of living is eating up a lot of people's spending money. Thank you and take care.
Totally agree with you on The Beatles. As I have stated a few times now, vinyl is way too expensive these days. For me it is the music that matters the most, so I settle for what is affordable... CD, digital downloads and streaming. I will probably look for that Garth Brooks box and get it if it is only $20. Remember back in the olden days when catalog titles would be cheaper than new releases? Whatever happened to that?
That's true! Every once in a while the new release might be on sale for $1 off. Lol. You should be able to easily find that Garth Brooks box set. Look for the Analog version because he put out three different versions. The analog version sounds great. Thank you and take care.
It comes down to simple supply and demand so when the demand is great and the supply is limited the prices go up. A perfect example is going to be the QR releases of the Steely Dan catalog. The albums are selling for $150 and some people are screaming but with a limited number when they are gone these records are going to quadruple in price wait and see.
That will be interesting to see. I might pick up Aja and Gaucho. I'm still deciding. 😀 Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy
Great to see your videos again; its been a while hope all is well.
Pre-ordered a Deicide boxset (Red) for $200. Been out for a couple weeks now, and it's already being posted for $400 on discogs. Wild...
That is crazy. 😮
Hi Mel - I kind of got turned off by trying the MoFi Michael Jackson Thriller album. I liked the original I have much better. I didn't like how they mixed it and it was inconsistent. Beyond that, you actually hear the tape degradation on some tracks. Idk. I seem to always prefer originals. Same with the Billy Joel albums. I just loved how the engineers did things in the 70's generally. I hear great things about Quality Record pressings/Analogue Productions....need to try more of their stuff:) In fact, they made my calibration record so....lol.
Analogue Productions does great work. ♥️ I think you would be happy. I agree that the first pressing of Thriller is great but the MoFi brings out so many great details. Thank you and take care.
I bought Caress Of Steel white label promo for $40 off of Discogs a few months. I haven'tt bought a lot from there, most of my vinyl purchases are in person.
That was a great deal. 😀 Rush is terrific. ♥️
Hello Melinda, just wanted to mention first off I'm back home as of Saturday! I had to pull myself out of the place they had put me but I'm doing so much better being back home.
As for Discogs, It's really becoming something that's no more than a resource for information, prices not included, for me. It seems like there are some great sellers that really do a good job but there are also what I call record scalpers that don't even represent the product correctly or even have it in the right entry and they way, way, way overcharge. I've been waiting for a reply back from a seller on an LP I want to get now since Thursday of last week. I realize we had a holiday weekend and I'm taking all of that into account. But at the same time, it's almost been a full week and I haven't even heard back from them. I will not buy the album if I don't hear from them by tomorrow. I'll move on and find it elsewhere. Things like this are really bringing Discogs down unfortunately. But I think what's hurting it the worst is the people that are just trying to scalp what they are selling and see who will bite. Some of the prices are so far removed from reality that I don't see how they think they could ever sell them. And I hope they don't because that will just make them continue doing it. It's really sad and it's kind of a state of how the world is and has been becoming as of late. I understand wanting to make some money on something you're selling. But what I don't understand is trying to rip people off doing it. It's up to us in the end as to whether or not to buy the product. But it's real disheartening to see something that you would like to buy but you know there's no way you're going to at the price being asked.
One thing I do on Discogs If I see something way overpriced like this is I messaged the seller and offer them a price. Half the time I never hear back from him in the other half they answer back and usually say no but they do offer to lower the price. If they lower it enough then I might take the chance but so far that's only happened once :-)
Good video topic and thanks for posting it. And man it feels good to be back home and able to listen to my vinyl again! I had 22 records waiting on me when I got home from the hospital and enjoying cataloging them and listening to them each day ✔️
Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
I'm so glad you are home from the hospital. Making an offer for a record and not getting a response would be very frustrating. ☹️ Thank you and get well soon. ♥️
@@MelindaMurphy Yes it can be frustrating indeed! Never did hear back from him so that one I won't be buying from. And thank you for the well wishes and it is great to be back home!
When looking for price comps in discography, be sure to look at median sold price statistics. Don’t look at current listings of items for sale. The for-sale price is based partly on fantasy!
Excellent point! 😀 Thank you!
As of tonight, Amazon is selling Bob Dylan - The Original Mono Recordings Box set on CDs for around 100.00 bucks and the LPs are selling for $999.99 for the vinyl. Do you believe it? Thanks Melinda ((:
I'm so sorry for such a delayed response. I can't believe how crazy the price of that box set is now. 😳 Thank you and have a fantastic week!
If the vinyl market keeps pricing people out, then it will get what it deserves. I love vinyl and collect, also have a channel where I feature and discuss it like you. (I'm at Amity Tracks). But I focus on the music first. If some store or seller wants to be ridiculous with a price then screw them. I'm fine buying something on CD vs be insulted like that. I generally still dig through the used bins and can still find great stuff at reasonable prices.
I would hate to see the resurgence end. Several viewers have said that they have quit buying vinyl altogether now. It's very sad. Best wishes for your channel. I hope you are enjoying it. I will subscribe to your channel. Take care.
@MelindaMurphy Thanks, Melinda. I'm having a lot of fun with the channel. I have enjoyed your channel for awhile now. Great stuff!