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This is the best review I've ever seen. 1) It is filmed and produced really well 2) You guys were completely honest (versus something like TTDaily where everything said is good). TT11 is the best!
I like that you guys have 4 different people/ages/playstyle/skill this really helps test to rubber really well and is truly unbias. I love the blind test too and I think these blind test should be more conducted. I just wish in future videos you guys define which is mx-p and mx-d rubber for blind test.
It's not often you see a review with different players and play styles with their own commentary, as well as featuring similar rubbers to see how they compare. When looking for a new rubber I often find myself choosing between 2 or 3 rubbers so these reviews really do help. The only thing i would suggest is for each person in the video to mention which blade they are using as the characteristics for each rubber vary depending on the blade they are paired with
Honest. Top. I like that you are not shy to say "i cant feel a difference"... this might be true for the far majority of players who are not Boll and Gauzy etc - but who will be the ones to buy the stuff.
It is the first impression by them. The rubbers are different...I have tried them in different blades...in fact mx-d is one of the best rubbers I've tried. (The one that is very similar to mx-d is Gewo super select) I have super select 50 in a primorac (with Tenergy 0.5 on backhand) and a mx-d on another primorac carbon (vega X on backhand) and mx-d and super select are very, very similar. The main difference with mx-p are the gears I think. You should try mx-d... very good rubber...and not expensive. But it is a little heavier than mx-p.
Excellent video, Sergei. Thank you very much. If you had included the weights of the rubbers, that would have been great. I got a Xiom Ice Cream AZXi blade. My current rubber on forehand is an Andro Rasanter R47. Maybe I should try a harder rubber like MX-D. What do you think about it. Thanks a lot. You guys are very good.
I think that this transition will be easier than going for MX-P. In my opinion MX-D plays better on carbon blades than MX-P couse it gives you more dwell time even though it's harder than MX-P and MX-P 50. MX-P are much springier and require less effort but on the other hand they have lower limits. It's exactly same thing as Tenergy series and Dignics series. I hope it will help you :)
May I ask you about those rubbers: Mx-P and Mx-D both in which thickness for the setup for playing Forehand Chops? Is choosing thicker sponge could be more benefit for more speed in attack while still have good control for Chopping or using thinner sponge like 2.0 might be better? thanks for support
Спасибо за видео. С подрезкой пробовал MX-P 1,8 мм, пропилить сложно, мяч долго держится, потом выплёвывется с большим разбросом по высоте. То есть по идее MX-D должен быть чуть лучше, но на видео все ровно наоборот :) P.S. Попробовал MX-D, подрезка и кач намного лучше, чем MX-P. Может вы сравнивали с MX-P 50, у которого губка практически такая же твердая?
thanks for the vid. Do you guys think the review might differ if you use the rubber for twi sessions first ? This is the case for me as I play DHS Neo rubbers as they need two sessions at least to be really functional
Hello! Thank you for the question! You are right, Chinese rubbers indeed demand quite some time to start showing their best performance. As for the German and Japanese rubbers, that time is shorter ( one-two training sessions in my opinion ). We always play a bit with the rubbers before the testing, so the rubbers characteristic should be close to maximum.
Thanks for the review. What does D stand for? Apart from the sponge hardness what is the difference? I was looking at EL-S and FX-D similar sponge hardness and spin ratings... I am guessing it's the size of the holes in the sponge?
D means Dynamic... I have both rubbers ...I have used them in different blades too. Mx-d is a little faster. In terms of spin... very similar. I prefer mx-d because I feel it has more gears. Last weekend I paired mx-d and vega X with primorac carbon... mx-d was born to Primorac Carbon 😂😂. Mx-p is crazy with primorac anyway. PD: mx-d is a little heavier...so if you want to have it on both sides...mmm it is an aspect to consider.
Hello! Thank you for the comment and the question! You can compare the MX-D rubber to the Dignics 05: that is the closest rubbers by its properties out of Dignicses. And MX-D rubber is significantly faster in my opinion
I was gonna say the same thing . The direct comparison would be mxp 50 and mxd . But if the margin is that small whats the point of having 3 very vary similar rubbers
MX-D has a new Red Power Sponge, which gives the shots a higher throwing angle and in general makes a rubber faster. But the difference is probably not too big.
Why would someone switch to MXD if there is very minute difference ? Tibhar should give more information about the Red Power Sponge, so people can understand the difference. Also, would this sponge shrink while regluing? Because MXP shrinks after regluing a few times.
It depends on how their new sponge will change after 2-3 month. If it keeps its properties longer than mx-p (the most frustrating thing in mx-p for me), then I'll definitely switch. By the way, I really tried very hard not to stretch my mx-p when gluing, and after playing with it for 2 month and regluing it twice, it didn't shrink, or that shrink is around 1mm, so I don't see this problem anymore.
Excelent! so, no increased dwell time? My problem with euro rubbers is when touching the ball softly on the table, sliding, etc.; would it be mx-d better than mx-p in that matter? I need a rubber in the BH that is precise and that does not bounce so much if I am going to play soft to leave the ball short in the opponent's court.
Hello! Yes, the dwell time of that rubber is even shorter. Those rubbers are definitely not good for the described task. You can probably try Nittaku Faster C-1 if you want a European rubber. And another option can be Hurricane 8 rubber. It give a lot of spin to the ball. Very easy to play short.
This vid had good sound; the problem for me with no sound in other videos is that I use an Amp, and having it set to 7.1 some vids will not give sound because 2 channel stereo (or mono) only; so I have to change windows sound setting each time.
This is the best review I've ever seen. 1) It is filmed and produced really well 2) You guys were completely honest (versus something like TTDaily where everything said is good). TT11 is the best!
It's simple: you can't expect honesty in table tennis the moment someone pays you.
@@penholdTV This happens in the music world too. Every guitar sounds great according to certain reviewers. 🤔
Completely agree. Great job on the review!
I like that you guys have 4 different people/ages/playstyle/skill this really helps test to rubber really well and is truly unbias. I love the blind test too and I think these blind test should be more conducted. I just wish in future videos you guys define which is mx-p and mx-d rubber for blind test.
Very good review. I like the fact the same rubber is used by different kind of players
That was a very clear and honest review. Thank you very much.
Thank you!
Thank you TT11 for this review ! It was refreshing and interesting content 👍👍 More to come yeah ?
Yes, soon!!
Excellent video. Thanks for producing and sharing this.
That's a high quality review 👌 good job .
Отличное видео. Отличается от большинства обзоров в лучшую сторону ( делитесь личными ощущениями,а не расхваливаете новинку) . Спасибо .
Good review. You guys sure do like blue. I enjoyed how you incorporated various player feedback.
Yes, we do.
THANK YOU, GREAT REVIEW !
It's not often you see a review with different players and play styles with their own commentary, as well as featuring similar rubbers to see how they compare. When looking for a new rubber I often find myself choosing between 2 or 3 rubbers so these reviews really do help.
The only thing i would suggest is for each person in the video to mention which blade they are using as the characteristics for each rubber vary depending on the blade they are paired with
Honest. Top. I like that you are not shy to say "i cant feel a difference"... this might be true for the far majority of players who are not Boll and Gauzy etc - but who will be the ones to buy the stuff.
It is the first impression by them. The rubbers are different...I have tried them in different blades...in fact mx-d is one of the best rubbers I've tried. (The one that is very similar to mx-d is Gewo super select) I have super select 50 in a primorac (with Tenergy 0.5 on backhand) and a mx-d on another primorac carbon (vega X on backhand) and mx-d and super select are very, very similar. The main difference with mx-p are the gears I think. You should try mx-d... very good rubber...and not expensive. But it is a little heavier than mx-p.
Great review👍 should do this for alot of new equipment
Definitely!
Thank you for the video, good review.
Quick question: is there a difference in weight? MX-P vs MX-D?
Hello! The MX-D rubbers are heavier than MX-P.
I like it..thanks for the review
Excellent video, Sergei. Thank you very much. If you had included the weights of the rubbers, that would have been great.
I got a Xiom Ice Cream AZXi blade.
My current rubber on forehand is an Andro Rasanter R47.
Maybe I should try a harder rubber like MX-D. What do you think about it.
Thanks a lot. You guys are very good.
I think that this transition will be easier than going for MX-P. In my opinion MX-D plays better on carbon blades than MX-P couse it gives you more dwell time even though it's harder than MX-P and MX-P 50. MX-P are much springier and require less effort but on the other hand they have lower limits. It's exactly same thing as Tenergy series and Dignics series.
I hope it will help you :)
отличный тест спасибо
very nice review guys
Glad you enjoyed it!
May I ask you about those rubbers: Mx-P and Mx-D both in which thickness for the setup for playing Forehand Chops? Is choosing thicker sponge could be more benefit for more speed in attack while still have good control for Chopping or using thinner sponge like 2.0 might be better? thanks for support
Спасибо за видео. С подрезкой пробовал MX-P 1,8 мм, пропилить сложно, мяч долго держится, потом выплёвывется с большим разбросом по высоте. То есть по идее MX-D должен быть чуть лучше, но на видео все ровно наоборот :)
P.S. Попробовал MX-D, подрезка и кач намного лучше, чем MX-P. Может вы сравнивали с MX-P 50, у которого губка практически такая же твердая?
thanks for the vid. Do you guys think the review might differ if you use the rubber for twi sessions first ? This is the case for me as I play DHS Neo rubbers as they need two sessions at least to be really functional
Hello! Thank you for the question!
You are right, Chinese rubbers indeed demand quite some time to start showing their best performance. As for the German and Japanese rubbers, that time is shorter ( one-two training sessions in my opinion ). We always play a bit with the rubbers before the testing, so the rubbers characteristic should be close to maximum.
Thanks for the review. What does D stand for? Apart from the sponge hardness what is the difference? I was looking at EL-S and FX-D similar sponge hardness and spin ratings... I am guessing it's the size of the holes in the sponge?
D means Dynamic... I have both rubbers ...I have used them in different blades too. Mx-d is a little faster. In terms of spin... very similar. I prefer mx-d because I feel it has more gears. Last weekend I paired mx-d and vega X with primorac carbon... mx-d was born to Primorac Carbon 😂😂. Mx-p is crazy with primorac anyway.
PD: mx-d is a little heavier...so if you want to have it on both sides...mmm it is an aspect to consider.
What's the best tacky rubber in your opinion?
Good video TT11. My question is, is this a butterfly dignics competitor? And which version?
Hello!
Thank you for the comment and the question!
You can compare the MX-D rubber to the Dignics 05: that is the closest rubbers by its properties out of Dignicses. And MX-D rubber is significantly faster in my opinion
How about durability?
Which one is better for chopping?
Gostaria que tivesse legendas em portugues-BR. Vocês têm muitos fãs aqui no meu país. 😊
Please review Evolution el-p or el-s
View regarding Stiga Carbon pro
I don't get it if they share same topsheet and there's another 50° MXP. What's the point with this MX-D?
I was gonna say the same thing . The direct comparison would be mxp 50 and mxd . But if the margin is that small whats the point of having 3 very vary similar rubbers
The MX-D rubber has the Red Power Sponge, which is new technology. But those rubber are indeed quite similar.
Please review moreee rubbers
Please test Victas triple double extra compare to Hurricane 3.
For the record I actually prefer MX-D over MX-P has better arc than MX-P.
We plan to make a comparison of different sticky rubbers soon!
Thanks.
Welcome!
what's the difference between MX-D and MX-P 50?
MX-D has a new Red Power Sponge, which gives the shots a higher throwing angle and in general makes a rubber faster. But the difference is probably not too big.
Please make review of new xiom rubber ser
Can anyone please comment on durability
Спасибо большое за обзор. Давайте больше обзоров, thank rakza z например
Уже в планах!
What is the blade? It's the cool sound
We always use the same blade in our tests, the Neottec Voodoo Classic.
Why would someone switch to MXD if there is very minute difference ? Tibhar should give more information about the Red Power Sponge, so people can understand the difference. Also, would this sponge shrink while regluing? Because MXP shrinks after regluing a few times.
It depends on how their new sponge will change after 2-3 month. If it keeps its properties longer than mx-p (the most frustrating thing in mx-p for me), then I'll definitely switch. By the way, I really tried very hard not to stretch my mx-p when gluing, and after playing with it for 2 month and regluing it twice, it didn't shrink, or that shrink is around 1mm, so I don't see this problem anymore.
@@cytivrat thanks
Thank you for the question! We have not reglued MX-D rubber yet. So we will try and tell you the result
Greetings from germany
Welcome!
Excelent! so, no increased dwell time? My problem with euro rubbers is when touching the ball softly on the table, sliding, etc.; would it be mx-d better than mx-p in that matter?
I need a rubber in the BH that is precise and that does not bounce so much if I am going to play soft to leave the ball short in the opponent's court.
Yasaka Anti-power?
Hello!
Yes, the dwell time of that rubber is even shorter.
Those rubbers are definitely not good for the described task.
You can probably try Nittaku Faster C-1 if you want a European rubber.
And another option can be Hurricane 8 rubber. It give a lot of spin to the ball. Very easy to play short.
Hurricane 3-50 can also be a good solution for you!
From rubber properties looks like MX-S. This will be closer rubber to compare than MX-P.
0:27 this is ab upgrade version of MX-P ;)
We have decided to test that rubber against the best seller:)
Неужели на Неотеке так хорошо играет???
I will pay for channel if you wear those Russian hats and incorporate vodka somehow.
Сори, спасибо Основу рассмотрел
Основание, которое мы используем для тестов - Neottec Voodoo Classic. Классическое, пятислойное, по скорости: OFF. Приятное основание
Am i the only one with no sound ??!
Yes
This vid had good sound; the problem for me with no sound in other videos is that I use an Amp, and having it set to 7.1 some vids will not give sound because 2 channel stereo (or mono) only; so I have to change windows sound setting each time.
We have no problem with the sound. Hope it works now!
当たり前だけどw日本人おらんなw
Можно ли вам писать на русском языке?
Можно ;)
Лучше на русском говорите