I have for years a Topeak Hummer, a Park Tool IB-3 and a Crank Brothers M17 besides others many years before them. I bought them in this order over more than a decade but the M17 is my favored bike touring EDC for a long time.
Thank you! Serfas CR11 I purchased on a clearance sale for a lot less and it works great and very compact. Stainless steel chrome and looks and feels very durable. Also has a chain link removal tool and is not too crowded with other less useful tools.
I've got the M19. Could have gone for the M17 but there was a sale and the M19 was actually a little less so went for it. I quite like it, feels sturdy and good quality. The small wrenches on the chain tool are great for a touring bike or commuter to adjust fenders if needed. The case I am on the fence on. I like the form but the lid is a little funny. For how often you really need to get in to it it probably isn't a problem. I tend to use a fingernail under the groove cut in the side of the lid and it comes out with a little force.
I've had the 19 now going on 4ish years. It gets used, at most, 3-4 times year. The container lid does get easier to get into and at this point I'm more concerned about the lid falling off than the difficulty of removing it. I don't road bike, for now, so it's sole use is for mtb and for this its worked well. As you've pointed out I don't really need all 19 tools, and for many this would apply, but since i'm not particularly trying to save weight or space I have this concept of it; Better have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Of course I carry it for my personal use, but it could also be handy for any on the trail who may need help. That said, I've not used a majority of its components and honestly, don't hope to need to. I've not come across anything for which this tool has a use, but not been able to work due to form factor. That said I agree that the length of the tools does sometimes make for an inconvenience. I bought mine for $26 usd and dont regret the expense. Just my two cents. Enjoyed the vid. Informative and well thought out. Cheers!
I have the m19 and the cap of the case wore out pretty fast, for now it fits fine but maybe in the future it starts to come loose and could let the tool escape on my saddle bag. That would be a concern too
This was good and useful, to show a line of tools and discuss the trade offs. I guess I'm rare in that I'd rather have a stand alone chain tool, like the Pedro's multifunction one and a simpler multitool like the M10 you showed with longer tools or even just a fold out set of Allen keys and another of Torx that I also would use at home. For a flat and Phillips bit I'd use a folding knife that has those on it or just a small two way screwdriver. However the M10 may make more sense in terms of weight and size to carry with you. I just like the dual use aspect of home and road use. I'd also consider a Leatherman type tool. Some Leatherman type tools can take bits, in which case I'd consider just carrying the bits my bike needs and using the Leatherman to drive them, most likely with their bit extension. I already own a Skeletool so I'd just need their extension and some standard 1/4" bits for my bike as I don't care for Leatherman's half width bits. You also get a serious knife and pliers this way. For countries with restrictive knife laws maybe the Leatherman Bond is a better choice. Same idea though...or the knifeless Rebar... I find the thin double ended 8 & 10mm wrench/spanner a reasonable tool to carry as well, it's thin and light and those sizes abound. If one has a backpack anyway I find a small adjustable wrench with larger thinner jaws worthy of being carried but that's a pretty big step up and maybe it's just better at that point to get an Alien bike tool, the old one or the new one? A lot of tools in a relatively small package.
I know people like the one package form factor concept but I'd rather have the M10 and a small Pedro's multifunction chain tool and maybe a thin 8x10mm wrench...I just find this better and less awkward than the all in one type...
i have that crank bros tool. i trashed the case because it was too hard to take out. keep in the the saddle bag. its good but too heavy. shoulda bought the smaller one. heh
I have the same model of that park multi-tool. While it is nicely designed the big flaw that I have found is that the locking nuts for the different tools (the ones on the sides) comes loose after a bit of use. You need to re-tighten them after every use or else they do come apart and you have to reassemble the different bits which is a bit of a nuisance. I just wrap a rubber band around the tool now just to make sure it doesn't fall apart inside the saddle bag.
Every video says m17 maybe won’t work for 11 Speed cuz it Says 8-10. Why doesn’t someone try???? Does anyone know if it works for 11 ????? Thanks in advance. Not opinion or Jerry rig but works. Thx
Awesome Review! We recently purchased the M19 model to review and were very impressed. We felt that the storage container was a bit of a waste and not likely to hold up well but overall, we love it. Check out our review here: www.expeditionrecreation.com/gear/crankbrothers-m19-multi-tool
Exploring With Mike they are primarily for bikes, because the only other things they make are bike parts, mainly pedals and you know what a crank is on a bike don't you? (The "pedal arm")
0:50 - Great piece of english going on here! "When you are riding somewhere in the middle of nowhere"..."and then you have to fix, fix some something, or just, just something"
I have for years a Topeak Hummer, a Park Tool IB-3 and a Crank Brothers M17 besides others many years before them. I bought them in this order over more than a decade but the M17 is my favored bike touring EDC for a long time.
Thank you! Serfas CR11 I purchased on a clearance sale for a lot less and it works great and very compact. Stainless steel chrome and looks and feels very durable. Also has a chain link removal tool and is not too crowded with other less useful tools.
An informative, clear and concise review. A good vid. Thank you.
I've got the M19. Could have gone for the M17 but there was a sale and the M19 was actually a little less so went for it.
I quite like it, feels sturdy and good quality. The small wrenches on the chain tool are great for a touring bike or commuter to adjust fenders if needed.
The case I am on the fence on. I like the form but the lid is a little funny. For how often you really need to get in to it it probably isn't a problem. I tend to use a fingernail under the groove cut in the side of the lid and it comes out with a little force.
Hey Dany, I just wanted to thanks you for all the input in your videos. I recently got a CAAD 12 and I'm loving it. Keep it up!
Oh man, did you purchase the yellow one? It's awesome!
+cannondany i got the 105 in grey. I rather have color on me than on the bike. Not to flashy but rides like a dream. Thanks again
I've had the 19 now going on 4ish years. It gets used, at most, 3-4 times year. The container lid does get easier to get into and at this point I'm more concerned about the lid falling off than the difficulty of removing it. I don't road bike, for now, so it's sole use is for mtb and for this its worked well. As you've pointed out I don't really need all 19 tools, and for many this would apply, but since i'm not particularly trying to save weight or space I have this concept of it; Better have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Of course I carry it for my personal use, but it could also be handy for any on the trail who may need help. That said, I've not used a majority of its components and honestly, don't hope to need to. I've not come across anything for which this tool has a use, but not been able to work due to form factor. That said I agree that the length of the tools does sometimes make for an inconvenience. I bought mine for $26 usd and dont regret the expense. Just my two cents. Enjoyed the vid. Informative and well thought out. Cheers!
I have the m19 and the cap of the case wore out pretty fast, for now it fits fine but maybe in the future it starts to come loose and could let the tool escape on my saddle bag. That would be a concern too
Thank U for
Pointing out difference of 17 and 19. Thanks!!!!
topeak mega 9 spot on for mountain biking never had a problem with it
Thank you for explaining the difference between the 19 and 17.
Wich one did you choose?
I got the 19 because it was on sale at 20 bucks. would you know the weight difference between 19 vs 17?
This was good and useful, to show a line of tools and discuss the trade offs.
I guess I'm rare in that I'd rather have a stand alone chain tool, like the Pedro's multifunction one and a simpler multitool like the M10 you showed with longer tools or even just a fold out set of Allen keys and another of Torx that I also would use at home. For a flat and Phillips bit I'd use a folding knife that has those on it or just a small two way screwdriver. However the M10 may make more sense in terms of weight and size to carry with you.
I just like the dual use aspect of home and road use.
I'd also consider a Leatherman type tool. Some Leatherman type tools can take bits, in which case I'd consider just carrying the bits my bike needs and using the Leatherman to drive them, most likely with their bit extension. I already own a Skeletool so I'd just need their extension and some standard 1/4" bits for my bike as I don't care for Leatherman's half width bits.
You also get a serious knife and pliers this way. For countries with restrictive knife laws maybe the Leatherman Bond is a better choice. Same idea though...or the knifeless Rebar...
I find the thin double ended 8 & 10mm wrench/spanner a reasonable tool to carry as well, it's thin and light and those sizes abound.
If one has a backpack anyway I find a small adjustable wrench with larger thinner jaws worthy of being carried but that's a pretty big step up and maybe it's just better at that point to get an Alien bike tool, the old one or the new one? A lot of tools in a relatively small package.
I went with M10. I like the long reach of M10 tools. I also own the M17 but when out on the trail always grabbing the M10 for quick adjustments
I know people like the one package form factor concept but I'd rather have the M10 and a small Pedro's multifunction chain tool and maybe a thin 8x10mm wrench...I just find this better and less awkward than the all in one type...
It also works on x11 :)
i have that crank bros tool. i trashed the case because it was too hard to take out. keep in the the saddle bag. its good but too heavy. shoulda bought the smaller one. heh
I'm using Radon Multitool 5 and couple allen keys, packed in small plastic bag…
I have the same model of that park multi-tool. While it is nicely designed the big flaw that I have found is that the locking nuts for the different tools (the ones on the sides) comes loose after a bit of use. You need to re-tighten them after every use or else they do come apart and you have to reassemble the different bits which is a bit of a nuisance. I just wrap a rubber band around the tool now just to make sure it doesn't fall apart inside the saddle bag.
Thanks for sharing!
I got a multi tool from amazon not knowing it was a good one
But now i know thanks
Every video says m17 maybe won’t work for 11
Speed cuz it
Says 8-10. Why doesn’t someone try???? Does anyone know if it works for 11 ????? Thanks in advance. Not opinion or Jerry rig but works. Thx
Pro Tip: use old inner tube as a case
I have a crank brothers multi tool and the case provided is so bad. I can only open it by pushing the hole in the case with a pen...
I have a Topeak mini 30 its the best
I have a m19
CB have a 5 yr warranty
Starts at 3:00
Awesome Review! We recently purchased the M19 model to review and were very impressed. We felt that the storage container was a bit of a waste and not likely to hold up well but overall, we love it. Check out our review here: www.expeditionrecreation.com/gear/crankbrothers-m19-multi-tool
There is a reason they are called the crank brothers and not the bike brothers
Exploring With Mike they are primarily for bikes, because the only other things they make are bike parts, mainly pedals and you know what a crank is on a bike don't you? (The "pedal arm")
Just to let you know these multi tools are not just for bikes
That tool gets a huge fail for me
U just keep on repeating that the number of tools lol
0:50 - Great piece of english going on here! "When you are riding somewhere in the middle of nowhere"..."and then you have to fix, fix some something, or just, just something"
Maybe you speak his mother tongue better than he speaks English 🤔... I'm most confident you do.
@@andreasporreiro6551 Maybe I'm not the one here trying to make a video in another language
Multi tools... a collection of useless trinkets. If you can't use it as a shop tool, how is it helpful on the trail?