Hey Dave! Nice video, very decent snare tho, i got some idea if you want to try It, though you set up the 20 dollar drum, can you make a video using like... only the cheap stuff like the Walmart Ride, this snare and some 12" Floor Tom turned into a Kick drum? I mean, just sorta limited-cheap-travel-gig drum? I like your videos very much and I hope brands still noticing you, keep rocking on!
@rdavidr can you play a double petals? Because you look like a guy who has a lot of experience with drumming and Its just weird because I never seen you play a double petal.
Very curious to see what would happen if you somehow turned it into a tom or bass drum! Seems very challenging... but if anyone would be able to pull that off, it'd be you no question.
What would happen if you threw another set of snares on the drum. Like if you put the two sets of snares in an x shape. What would it sound like? I would like to see this done on this snare so you wouldn't do it to a good snare.
Recommendation for this drum: You’re really good at DIY stuff, I’d love to see a “worst case scenario” video where you bend tension rods, scuff the body, chip the bearing edge, and otherwise totally ruin the drum in a common way. You can use your skills and experience to show us the best way to fix the issues. “10 common damages to a drum, all on the same drum” Alternatively, you could do a video on how to make a cheap drum sound better through micing and mixing, in which a cheap piccolo snare would be perfect for
That’s kinda difficult stating there would be no connection to the the different woods/metals he would have to use glue or probably another thing I don’t know about. But it would be at a higher risk of breaking.
I bought it, slapped a remo vintage emperor on it, tuned it up with my handy dandy drum dial (80R 91B) and it sounds awesome. Totally gig with it no problems.
This shows that decent drum heads and proper tuning/treatment are pretty much everything in terms of getting your desired sound. A garbage drum kit with that rdavidr treatment is gonna sound better than a $2,000 Gretsch kit treated with mediocre maintenance.
The drum itself doesn't really matter that much most of the time, Its the heads and the tuning that counts. Also, your drumming just suddenly got so much better. You had some very nice grooves and fills
Put some sanding sealer on the inside of the shell. It'll re-enforce the shell by soaking into the fibers & brighten the sound quite a bit. I did this on a cheap, Sound Percussion snare much like this one & along with a head change, it cracked really loud.
Just opened this drum up as a Christmas present from my fiancé. Best gift I've gotten all year. The lugs need some serious grease and the top hoop looks like it's heading towards being warped but I can't wait to fix it up and throw it on a kit.
Have you guys ever heard that jingle snare? I have one! And it was a waste of money.. Can't hear the jingles over the snare.. And if you hit it to light the jingles won't activate at all.. Its more like a snare drum you can pick up and shake..
@@ljdunsmore1 It sounds nice in all the videos I've seen. And making the mod himself he could try to give the jingles more space to move or use bigger ones
@@pedro16797 agreed. With my experience I was better off triggering a tambourine on the snare hahaha and I also never liked the way in which the sonar snare tuned with the single lug tuning system.. Never could get it to tune perfectly. In my opinion it was a great concept but not a good execution.. Think sonar could have done better than that..
Now that I think about it.. It might really help to put a little spacer between the jingles to give them more cling sound. Like the jingles are floating and when struck they actually work unlike my sonar snare..
I bought a Griffin popcorn snare for $40 a while back. The heads, wires, and strainer are lame, but even so it turned up nicely and sounds ok. A few upgrades and people might mistake it for a serious side snare.
Bought one of these, for all the same reasons, when I opened it up, I noticed it was made of 3 plies of soft wood and had no bearing edges (cut flat), So with 80 grit sand paper I carved out some bearing edges in the shell with a round over outside bearing edge. The whole project took less than 2 hours to complete and although My bearing edges would not pass a light on a flat table test, the Drum works, especially when cranked up to high tension. ............. This is a little firecracker snare once the bearing edges are .... established and the drum batter head is replaced (I used an Evans coated batter head). This snare will do if one does not have the funds for anything more, however remember its very soft wood used to make the plies (some type of soft poplar), so over time it will decay...... Heck for 28 bucks it worth the hardware which one could use with a real shell from soda city drums, and the combo would make an excellent snare for under 100 bucks China plywood snare $ 28 Ambassador Head $ 15 Soda city 13 shell $ 65 Shipped $ 98 Total outlay to build a very decent snare drum
At 6:08 when you mention the throw off, I've always had that problem with the plastic throw off on Sonor force 3007 drums. Idk if they used it on other models between 2005-2010 but it is a pain in the ass
Seal the interior for a less porous surface. It should increase some resonance and brighten it up a bit Puresound snares 2 or 3 mil hazy snare side and a Coated 10mil batter. If possible some powerhoops
Actually sounds good with either head although the Remo sounds better. Just goes to show, sometimes it isn't the drums shells. It's the heads and how they're tuned.
I’m going to buy one as a DIY project to see if I can get a better sound out of it. Who knows? This might be my favorite piccolo once I’m done ✅ wish me luck 🍀
This has gotta be some of the best grooves youve laid down on the channel. Awesome. It would be a great side snap snare. Maybe with the Evans MC2 head and a evans thin clear resonate. Not bad for the money.
not sure about how well this would work, but can you use wood filler to make or replace a bearing edge? Build it up and then cut it to the angle you'd want?
Most cheap snares aren’t the garbage they used to be. That’s because production costs have gone down, and the computer aided drafting has vastly improved , so they are designed better with less expensive materials, that are of a higher quality.
Hi David, appreciate all your work...here's something popped up in my mind as practically used but may be you could do it better...I am using a portable pancake bass drum 14 not at all branded but sounds really good...Can you make a portable bass drum 18 to ease in use for traveling kit ?
Wow, that actually sounds pretty good for what it is. I would have no issue with keeping one of those in my trunk as a back up snare. Cool first groove too!
G'day, David! I will agree! This 'Cheapest Snare'... "I actually liked the sound of this snare, too!! (am still leaning a little bit, towards the Ludwig Rocker Elite, 3"x13" Piccolo Snare Drum) But, I honestly don't think, it deserves to be destroyed like the Amazon drum!!" It's advisable to look at the condition the bearing edges, regardless of angle and shape. Suggest: Maybe tuning up the bearing edges - (as you know) the bevelled rim of a drum’s shell - is the only place where the head meets the body of the drum. When you strike the skin, the energy of your stick transfers from the head through the edge to the shell. I find it interesting that, though drummers will spend a great deal of time considering the best types of wood for their shells, many don’t even think about how the 'Bearing Edges Affect the Sound of Drums' (which can cause unwanted buzzing, deadness, and tuning difficulties.) Next would very kindly suggest, purchasing all brand new (Remo or Evens) batter, and resonant side, drum heads for it! Thank you for another fabulous video! "Ride-on!!" Cheers! 😊✌🏼🥁💕
Regarding the throw off, putting a little graphite powder between the moving parts will help. Thanks for your videos. They keep me informed and interested in drumming.
@@jojobateria23 ok relax dude, you like your cowbells, you go play em all you want. Its just the whole "needs more cowbell" thing has been seen almost everywhere
You should make a zipper snare, a snare with a horizontal cut out on part of the drum, and then attach fabric and a zipper, so it can be zipped closed or left open, for a different sound
Just bought one of these and took it apart...oh boy...I found some stuff under the wrap! Apparently the shell had been drilled for different lugs and someone changed their mind...found some sawdust/glue hole plugging...wound up starting over with Weldwood...
For that kind of money it really doesn't sound bad! Had some good rebound for ghost notes once you changed that top head. I would keep it to play...why not
Order a second one of these. Put the two snares together with a set of tube lugs, only using the top head of the top shell and the bottom head and wires on the bottom shell. Remove any unnecessary hardware. Two snares in one with an open middle section! ...probably only useful for reggae and 311 tributes.
You know those wood-fiberglass kits by pearl? You should do something like that; line the inside of the drum with a non-wood substance. I'm thinking something like stucco.
that intro tho 😂
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Hey Dave! Nice video, very decent snare tho, i got some idea if you want to try It, though you set up the 20 dollar drum, can you make a video using like... only the cheap stuff like the Walmart Ride, this snare and some 12" Floor Tom turned into a Kick drum? I mean, just sorta limited-cheap-travel-gig drum? I like your videos very much and I hope brands still noticing you, keep rocking on!
@rdavidr can you play a double petals? Because you look like a guy who has a lot of experience with drumming and Its just weird because I never seen you play a double petal.
Very curious to see what would happen if you somehow turned it into a tom or bass drum! Seems very challenging... but if anyone would be able to pull that off, it'd be you no question.
What would happen if you threw another set of snares on the drum. Like if you put the two sets of snares in an x shape. What would it sound like? I would like to see this done on this snare so you wouldn't do it to a good snare.
No longer the cheapest snare lol just got this one for $10 www.wish.com/product/58453b32cc78804ee17e2093
I actually liked the sound of it, I don't think it deserves to be destroyed like the Amazon snare drum.
PS: those grooves were pretty eargasmic
He can destroy this one and get another lol
BarrosLuco
Lol
I agree. That sounded pretty good in the beginning for right out of the box.
Not gonna lie it sounds better than the amazon snare
Cybernetic Husky sounds much better. But still isn’t saying much
Definitely does!
no lie it sounds pretty good before you tuned it up lol
he did tune the stock heads...
I think he means tuned it UP
perfect for St.Anger sound lol
Agreed
I agree
Recommendation for this drum:
You’re really good at DIY stuff, I’d love to see a “worst case scenario” video where you bend tension rods, scuff the body, chip the bearing edge, and otherwise totally ruin the drum in a common way. You can use your skills and experience to show us the best way to fix the issues.
“10 common damages to a drum, all on the same drum”
Alternatively, you could do a video on how to make a cheap drum sound better through micing and mixing, in which a cheap piccolo snare would be perfect for
you should not damage a working instrument. its a mucisian unwritter rule
Instead of holes, make it thicker, Maybe addinng plies inside or a different material, another type of wood or maybe some metal
Diy DW edge
That’s kinda difficult stating there would be no connection to the the different woods/metals he would have to use glue or probably another thing I don’t know about. But it would be at a higher risk of breaking.
@@sweatshop603 maybe wood glue and clamps to add more layers (like the 20 ply snares that Pearl make)
That would be a really cool idea to try out. And if you screw it up, no big deal.
I bought it, slapped a remo vintage emperor on it, tuned it up with my handy dandy drum dial (80R 91B) and it sounds awesome. Totally gig with it no problems.
I want you to upgrade the crap out of it, to the point of almost ridiculousness.
This shows that decent drum heads and proper tuning/treatment are pretty much everything in terms of getting your desired sound. A garbage drum kit with that rdavidr treatment is gonna sound better than a $2,000 Gretsch kit treated with mediocre maintenance.
Tell that to Rob beat down Brown, who swears you should get a $600 snare😂😂😂😂
2:28 awesome drumming
I might actually buy this... it sounds good and I want a piccolo snare so fuck it... I might have to
Same, I'm dying to have a piccolo snare...
Lol, and I'm over here wishing I had other snares, because I ONLY have a piccolo XD
@@taronsmith8091 same man
I would’ve already bought it but can’t seem to find it on wish.com. Anyone got a link?
Ludwig Supralite is the best bang for the buck, trust me
Cut the drum to as thin as you possibly can and make a pancake snare drum
yesss! Make it so thin that there is no room for lugs on the shell. Just put bolts between the two hoops! @rdavidr
no
😅 duct tape two heads together and slap snares on the bottom...
Or make it as thick as he can
Holy crap your drumming has gotten better... Especially the stuff around 2:30
The cheaper it is the more you can mess it up
everytime one of Dave's videos come out I'm just like "YES! MY BORDEM IS OVER!"
That is literally me right now XD
Boredom?
Good for you
The drum itself doesn't really matter that much most of the time, Its the heads and the tuning that counts. Also, your drumming just suddenly got so much better. You had some very nice grooves and fills
For that price it would be worth buying to use as a side snare, just to have a different sound to play around with from time to time.
Put some sanding sealer on the inside of the shell. It'll re-enforce the shell by soaking into the fibers & brighten the sound quite a bit. I did this on a cheap, Sound Percussion snare much like this one & along with a head change, it cracked really loud.
your actually the only youtuber i enjoy
Just opened this drum up as a Christmas present from my fiancé. Best gift I've gotten all year. The lugs need some serious grease and the top hoop looks like it's heading towards being warped but I can't wait to fix it up and throw it on a kit.
I bought two of those, stuffed them with acoustic foam and used them as triggered kick drums on an electronic set. Love it
Put this inside the $40 snare.
what about making something like the sonor jungle snare? It has jingles in the shell, I think it would sound pretty good.
Wow, I'm impressed I'm not alone, I've just written a comment asking for the same
Have you guys ever heard that jingle snare? I have one! And it was a waste of money.. Can't hear the jingles over the snare.. And if you hit it to light the jingles won't activate at all.. Its more like a snare drum you can pick up and shake..
@@ljdunsmore1 It sounds nice in all the videos I've seen. And making the mod himself he could try to give the jingles more space to move or use bigger ones
@@pedro16797 agreed. With my experience I was better off triggering a tambourine on the snare hahaha and I also never liked the way in which the sonar snare tuned with the single lug tuning system.. Never could get it to tune perfectly. In my opinion it was a great concept but not a good execution.. Think sonar could have done better than that..
Now that I think about it.. It might really help to put a little spacer between the jingles to give them more cling sound. Like the jingles are floating and when struck they actually work unlike my sonar snare..
I just ordered this. Excited!!!
that fricking sound of the snare though in the demonstration sounds fricking awesome I wouldn't have changed the things
Great video David! Honestly, my favorite part about your channel is the videograohy. I can tell you put a lot of work into it.
Hey David haven’t seen any of your vids a in a while but the editing is better and quality is better keep it up
Snare sounds decent
I bought a Griffin popcorn snare for $40 a while back. The heads, wires, and strainer are lame, but even so it turned up nicely and sounds ok. A few upgrades and people might mistake it for a serious side snare.
Good to see you still have it since 2016
Bought one of these, for all the same reasons, when I opened it up, I noticed it was made of 3 plies of soft wood and had no bearing edges (cut flat), So with 80 grit sand paper I carved out some bearing edges in the shell with a round over outside bearing edge. The whole project took less than 2 hours to complete and although My bearing edges would not pass a light on a flat table test, the Drum works, especially when cranked up to high tension.
.............
This is a little firecracker snare once the bearing edges are .... established and the drum batter head is replaced (I used an Evans coated batter head). This snare will do if one does not have the funds for anything more, however remember its very soft wood used to make the plies (some type of soft poplar), so over time it will decay...... Heck for 28 bucks it worth the hardware which one could use with a real shell from soda city drums, and the combo would make an excellent snare for under 100 bucks
China plywood snare $ 28
Ambassador Head $ 15
Soda city 13 shell $ 65 Shipped
$ 98 Total outlay to build a very decent snare drum
i really love the beat you did
At 6:08 when you mention the throw off, I've always had that problem with the plastic throw off on Sonor force 3007 drums. Idk if they used it on other models between 2005-2010 but it is a pain in the ass
Medium sized diamond shape cutouts between each lug! The black diamond popcorn snare ; )
Thanks for all the great videos!!
Seal the interior for a less porous surface. It should increase some resonance and brighten it up a bit
Puresound snares
2 or 3 mil hazy snare side and a Coated 10mil batter.
If possible some powerhoops
Adding extra ply and double the snare throw off plus put die cast hoop on it david.
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Love the grooves. Just got a pearl popcorn snare used and I love it!
Actually sounds good with either head although the Remo sounds better. Just goes to show, sometimes it isn't the drums shells. It's the heads and how they're tuned.
Fantastic drumming as always.
I’m going to buy one as a DIY project to see if I can get a better sound out of it. Who knows? This might be my favorite piccolo once I’m done ✅ wish me luck 🍀
Cut slots in the wood and add jingles like the sonor drum, and add a way to mount it to a Tom mount type thing.
I love this guy keep you the videos up
d, you getting better and better!
This has gotta be some of the best grooves youve laid down on the channel. Awesome.
It would be a great side snap snare. Maybe with the Evans MC2 head and a evans thin clear resonate.
Not bad for the money.
Put a layer of sheet metal on the inside and see how it changes the sound.
Try redoing the bearing edge, and changing it to something like a round-over. The other idea of adding extra plys sounds cool as well!
This snare sounds better than a lot of brand names I heard ,,,,Well worth the little money you dished out ! Thanks for posting .
Dang. Not bad at all...
And a frickin tasty grove, man.
Yes! A new rdavidr video!
brilliant, as usual!
not sure about how well this would work, but can you use wood filler to make or replace a bearing edge? Build it up and then cut it to the angle you'd want?
Dude, add tambourine jingles to it like a jungle snare. That snare is begging for a little jingle jangle
It sounds pretty good david. Doesn't look bad either. Is it a poplar shell? Basswood?
You're such an awesome drummer!
I saw this same thing on Wish yesterday and was really tempted to purchase it as a 2nd snare. It sounds pretty good!
Sick beats man!
Was about to go to sleep checked notifications Rdavidr uploaded
Most cheap snares aren’t the garbage they used to be. That’s because production costs have gone down, and the computer aided drafting has vastly improved , so they are designed better with less expensive materials, that are of a higher quality.
dude, the moment he changed the head of that snare drum, for me it was totally worth it
Sick fill at 2:36. Sounds good
SWEETSPOTS!! FTW! 💪🏻
Hi David, appreciate all your work...here's something popped up in my mind as practically used but may be you could do it better...I am using a portable pancake bass drum 14 not at all branded but sounds really good...Can you make a portable bass drum 18 to ease in use for traveling kit ?
Wow, that actually sounds pretty good for what it is. I would have no issue with keeping one of those in my trunk as a back up snare. Cool first groove too!
Love the video man
G'day, David! I will agree! This 'Cheapest Snare'... "I actually liked the sound of this snare, too!! (am still leaning a little bit, towards the Ludwig Rocker Elite, 3"x13" Piccolo Snare Drum) But, I honestly don't think, it deserves to be destroyed like the Amazon drum!!"
It's advisable to look at the condition the bearing edges, regardless of angle and shape. Suggest: Maybe tuning up the bearing edges - (as you know) the bevelled rim of a drum’s shell - is the only place where the head meets the body of the drum. When you strike the skin, the energy of your stick transfers from the head through the edge to the shell. I find it interesting that, though drummers will spend a great deal of time considering the best types of wood for their shells, many don’t even think about how the 'Bearing Edges Affect the Sound of Drums' (which can cause unwanted buzzing, deadness, and tuning difficulties.)
Next would very kindly suggest, purchasing all brand new (Remo or Evens) batter, and resonant side, drum heads for it! Thank you for another fabulous video! "Ride-on!!"
Cheers! 😊✌🏼🥁💕
Regarding the throw off, putting a little graphite powder between the moving parts will help.
Thanks for your videos. They keep me informed and interested in drumming.
Neve heard this tip before. Will check it out. Thanks!
not expecting it too sound that good lol happily impressed
Needs more cowbell
The joke's kinda old now...
@@paradigmshiftz7 it's never a joke, it's true and always will be true
CR7TheGunner hey, does it look like I care??
@@jojobateria23 ok relax dude, you like your cowbells, you go play em all you want. Its just the whole "needs more cowbell" thing has been seen almost everywhere
2:25 w h a t t h e f u c k
Rdavidr: "What to deal with the black snare drum??"
Me: "You can make a side snare."
Wow! Sounds great! I want one!
This snare actually sounds good 👌
I like that groove
That’s killer! Not sure how they can build a drum that cheap and make ANY money!! Love the video bro!! 👍👍
crazy right? I dont understand it either
feel free to sell me one of yours for $31 👍😂
Make something like a DW edge snare, but just inside, like aluminium, or something
sounds pretty great!
Nice, sounds better than the snare that comes with the ludwig breakbeats kit, the rest of the breakbeats kit sounds killer tho.
You should make a zipper snare, a snare with a horizontal cut out on part of the drum, and then attach fabric and a zipper, so it can be zipped closed or left open, for a different sound
Just bought one of these and took it apart...oh boy...I found some stuff under the wrap! Apparently the shell had been drilled for different lugs and someone changed their mind...found some sawdust/glue hole plugging...wound up starting over with Weldwood...
Actually a great snare sound. Proof that you dont need a fortune to get a sound happening as long as you know what youre doing
For that kind of money it really doesn't sound bad! Had some good rebound for ghost notes once you changed that top head. I would keep it to play...why not
That snare was POPPING
The New Head was probably more extensive than the snare
Them chops tho 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Try mounting this snare without the bottom head onto a floor tom (maybe that has no top head??) and see what it sounds like.
Maybe make the bearing edge nicer and cut a deeper snare bed? Could also try and make one of those double decker snares
What about upgrading it. making it really nice, with some nice thin wood laminat. Replace hoops and throw off and a set of nice heads
Sounds pretty good! Especially for the price!
Sounds great
That snare could have sounded worse, but it didn't. I was expecting a horrible sound, but I liked that
That was a decent sound. I'm impressed! You should try lacquering the inside of the drum......idk, just an idea
Order a second one of these. Put the two snares together with a set of tube lugs, only using the top head of the top shell and the bottom head and wires on the bottom shell. Remove any unnecessary hardware. Two snares in one with an open middle section! ...probably only useful for reggae and 311 tributes.
holy guacamole this snare sounds awesome.
Use it as a DOUBLESTACK on top of a larger diameter snare.
Love your videos.
I like the sound before improvements! :)
Should glue a 12” shell into that shell and maybe a 10” get longer screws to go through all the shell for the lugs could fatten it up.
i think it sounds amazing
You know those wood-fiberglass kits by pearl? You should do something like that; line the inside of the drum with a non-wood substance. I'm thinking something like stucco.
I think add tambourine jangles to it and make a jungle piccolo 👌