The CHEAPEST SNARE on Amazon - worth it? -
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2018
- The Snare Used:
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nice
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You should buy another one and make the most thicc snare
You should turn it into a 14" roto tom
Can you make a snare out of a bass drum hoop?
me (a guitarist): that sounds pretty good
rdavidr: that sounded horrible
Only experience I have with the sound of a snare is putting a card between the strings of my guitar and getting the “snare” sound
Sameeeee
I'm a guitarist as well and it sounds horrible to me lol, I was just about to post a comment about how it sounds terrible but decided to reply onto yours instead. lifeless sounding snare. No inspiration what so ever.
D K well I guess you are big Brain
@@Robster-Craw Inspiration? Toss toss.
90% of an audience, especially live would never know the difference between a $2600 snare and a $70 snare (new heads and upgrades). Drummers get all hung up an this stuff. Studio, different story...
oh how true......in early 80's I bought a Lud #400 .....looking for the Zep sound.....silly me @ 15 y/o....My 5" sensitone I bought @ pawnshop for $40 sounds great w/a Carvin CM68 on it
This is 100% the issue I have with a lot of other musicians. You're making a song for the listener. They don't care if your instrument is made of maple or partially burned pallet wood with nails sticking out of it. Besides which, most people listen on laptops and telephones, with the best option being really shitty headphones.
In 9th grade my parents bought me a Tama Super Mahogany set with a metal Swingstar snare. Evens blue heads on the bass and toms and they sound AMAZING. The snare? My band teacher at the time did the cut an old head bead off and middle out, placing under the batter head and BOOM!! Meaty sound and EVERY one that hears it tells me, "That snare sounds amazing." And it does. It sounds beefy and full and despite being "cheap" it's great! Just because it costs an arm doesn't mean it's worth it.
Agreed. The tuning of the drum will make the difference, not the type of wood or whatever
*agrees in St. Anger”
Sure it's not usable for a professional musician but you actually made the drum sound way better. I was impressed with the improved tone. Great job.
You have the PERFECT drum sound for my taste! But honestly once you tuned the drum it sounded just fine to me, even without the other improvements you made.
TAMA should send David a snare... Upvote so they see this! :D
Derek Charette where your videos at? At least the man's doing something. And you don't have to hit hard if your drums sound good (his do). Much more room for dynamics if you play lower overall... But none of this matters because it's just a UA-cam video. Don't be a douche. Just watch a different video.
+Josh Miller (Joshmillerdrum) guys let's leave the troll more room to do his thing lmao
Why am I just now seeing this thread haha.
Come on Tama!
Tama is so solid. Love their stuff.
Make a whole budget/amazon drum set.
Yes! that would be so dope
Then at the end of the series give the set away using gleam.io or something.
That's a ton of work
@@ijuldzulfadli903 Tons of views.
@@iexecutionare he did a 20 dollar drum set
Great video, man! I have a cheap kit that my students use during our lessons. I knew they were going to beat the heck out of any kit they use, and I figured it'd be a waste to get a more expensive kit if it was going to be trash in a couple years. So, all of the mods and maintenance tricks you suggest have been a big help in making my student-kit last longer and sound waaaaay better. =)
As a drummer I can confidently say that this is way more work than I'd ever be able to stomach. Cheers
Donate it to your local elementary school band program.
My old elementary school had a supraphonic
Adams mines too
Or me I’m really poor
@@caladam2221 what?!
Only if the school has a jazz or concert band, otherwise, they only need marching snares. Our school had a closet of a half dozen set snares that were donations, but we never used them...
Make a drum kit entirely out of snare drums.
I am actually doing that minus the bass. The problem is tuning it where it makes sense with snares off.
Is that the jesu LP2 cover as your profile picture?
Andrew Ford Lars Ulrich’s signature drum set.
Coop3rdrummer did this
If a beginner don't have that much money for a better snare... I mean better than nothing👍🏾
I get that
A good snare drum sound is the essence of a good music production. I love the devotion you put into your strive for perfection. The end result is very convincing!
Make a bass drum beater out of it. As in the whole drum hitting your bass drum.
FrustratedTurtle omg please
This
classic FrustratedTurtle comment
Cursed drum images.
a pro tip for cheap snare ... use the cheapest acoustic foam and place around the inner wall of the snare drum, that will kill the sound a bit but it compensates by adjusting the tension ... it definitely improves the sound.
It doesn't sound that bad.
Until the hoops are stuffed from a couple of rimshots!
Paul Burbridge good for practising
Right that is what i am saying
replaced with a quality head should be good to go.
that's what i thought.
*"DAvE wHAt ARE YA DOIN, THoose HEADS aNd SnAres COST wAY MORE THan THE actual DRUM DAvE, WHaT ARE Ya DOiN MAaaN"*
Dave: *aAaAaaaaAaaAaaaaA*
Dave, I think you should cut the snare to like 4-3 inches and add some jingles to it to try and make a jungle snare. I think it would be pretty cool and original.
Jambo ...and than a bassdrum beater out of it.
original...meh
Waits a whole month to open a box!? I open it as soon I pick it up!
Man thanks for doing this experiment, all the techniques you are demonstrating are actually very helpful for people who wants to enhance the sound quality of the drums they get from budget drumsets!!! very cool!
Give it away to some lucky kid that just started playing. You really made it the best it could possibly be. For that price it sounded pretty nice.
You should put rivets in the snare
I second this.
i fourth this
fith
I guess I sixth this. Is that something one can do?
what does that do?
If you aren't planning on using the snare, add it to the give away! It'll make someone happy!
One of the best channels on youtube. You sir make my drum OCD go away. The low budget improvements are so satisfying.
1:35 Who's been looking for that St. Anger snare sound....you got it for $37.95!!
And not the over 3 grand that Tama bell brass Ulrich Signature is priced... Real deal! 🤔😅
Neil Peart's main touring and recording snare, a Slingerland Artists Model 3 ply 5.5 x 14" cost about $60 and came from a thrift store. It sounded great to him and would NEVER choke which, if you're Neil Peart, is a big deal. Used it on every Rush tour and album from 1977 to 1997.
Give every snare a chance, even the thrift store and Amazon ones.
You never know.
Swiss cheese the crap out of this snare. To the point where it's about to fall apart.
that is exactly what I was thinking actually haha. I bought a new hole saw set a month ago that needs breaking in ;)
rdavidr please do.
rdavidr yes yes yes
I'd recommend SEVERAL more coats of tung seed oil prior to the "swiss cheesing" lol
and then do a cover of 'i fall apart'
You make me happy. And your editing is like jazz! Smooth yet a bit funky but all in all amazing. Thanks mate. Just found ya!!
what a transformation ,, you have turned this basic snare into a great sounding drum well done to you sir .
The shit went POP..just like every other snare drum out there. Drummers often analyze this stuff too much.
lol you're an idiot.
i only liked it because it was at 68 likes
Make a subkick with it
That's what I'm doing with a crap snare I have.
Smart, would love to see this.
Dude, there's something about this video that just made me smile (in a good way). It's also very informative. Thank you.
You have inspired me to drag out my mid 70s Wood Fiberglass Pearl Kit and clean it up, tune it up, and set it up for recording! Great tips and techniques, thanks a bunch!
I think what you did to the snare was great, and you got a decent sound out of it! I have been a drummer for many years, and if nothing else, you have shown younger drummers techniques they can use on other drums, and different ways to get a better sound. Keep up the good work, some time in the future that snare could save the day, and impress a trained ear!
why do i rewatch this video all the time?
I used Tung Oil on my 7 piece Mapex Venus Series kit.. it started out as a 5 piece (22x16, 12x9, 13x11, 16x16, and came with a 14x5.5 snare for $140) all made from basswood. I live in Florida and while it was stored inside a guys house I still felt the need to treat the inside of the shells. I then ran across 2 more toms (8x8 and 10x8 for $40) which I purchased from the same guy who sold me the 5 piece kit. Sad thing is he lived almost 2 hours away and could of just sold me the 2 extra toms last time I got the 5 piece. But thanks to your videos Im now a craigslist watcher lol. I took off the old wrap and used some self adhesive wrap from Amazon. I purchased all new heads and even went as far as to get another snare (Mapex MPX 14x8 maple snare) all of my toms and bass drum heads are Evans... I got the EC2 batters with EC reso heads. My bass drum has the EMAD2 with the bigger muffling ring. But for my new snare i purchased the Remo reverse controlled dot batter and the Ambassador clear snare side heads. Even though Mapex put Remo's coated UV batter with a remo clear UV reso... but after swapping the heads i got the full snare sound. My question though is what would you suggest for dampening? Ive tried that moon gel but it seems to do nothing. While restoring the kit (i turned the bass drum into a virgin bass by filling the tom mounting holes with wood pudy.) Then I used wood bondo for the dents and dings on the bass (i tried to skip that process but once i started putting the new wrap on you could see where the dents were.) Your channel has encouraged me to continue fixing up my kit and after a month of sanding, patching, sanding, using tung oil, and some more sanding... my kit was complete. I only used 2 coats of Tung Oil on the inside of each tom and the bass drum. I left the snare drums alone but after seeing this I may try a coat on the original snare that came with the kit. I dont want to mess up my maple snare. Now that Ive got a 7 piece drum kit that I repaired (mostly cutting out rubber grommets from a sheet of rubber i purchased from amazon) and having spent hundreds on 2 double tom mounts w/ an accessory clamp for cymbals (currently i have 6 cymbals). Im looking for a decent 3 or 4 piece kit. Any suggestions? After wrapping this last kit im not entirely worried about the wrap or how ugly it looks. I mainly check the inside of the shells for rust or corrosion on the screws/washers. Also i look for damage done to the wooden shells. My next set will use Remo coated heads as I see most kits with awesome tom tones have those Remo coated heads. But Im sure the type of wood the drum kit is made of makes a huge difference as well. Thus why Im writing you a book on your old post lol but Ive got a few friends who want to play reggaeton type music and I feel my Basswood mapex Venus series isnt really tuned or styled to play that type of music. The pitch that my drums are tuned too is geared more towards progressive rock. Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. But again thank you for posting a the videos you do about purchasing cheap equipment and making it sound good. Long live the bearded drummer!!! Lol
You can make any drum sound good with the right skins.
Try VibraFibing it. That is, applying a layer of Fiberglas to the inside of the shell. Neal Peart used to have his Tamas treated this way which added punch and sustain. Not sure if he did this with the DWs as the wood and ply structure was so carefully chosen. Be curious to see the change in tone.
Even with the stock heads and the stock wire, after the tuning it sounded good and pretty usable.
Funny enough I just the same thing a few years ago to my Pearl Prestige Session Select. Just finessed the bearing edges, gave the raw inner shells a light pass over with a fine steal wool and rubbed in some tug oil.
I kinda love doing that now. It protects it and it kinda beefs up the tone just a tad which I like, especially on a birch shell.
David. You are one of the most patient people I’ve ever seen. I commend you my friend. 👍🏼
Drill a bunch of holes in it. THE HOLY SNARE!!!
BullFrog Then chuck a genera dry head on it and it becomes an ultra dry snare.
That thing sounded like an aluminum trash can at first
Colossus Co. Look up the LP Raw snare on UA-cam.
Colossus Co. Fr
Yeahh that's the spirit man. Keep rocking
St angerrrrrrrrr
Most snare drums sound horrible straight out of the box, even a $600 snare. I work in a drum shop and open them all the time. Rarely do they ever come tuned (there is a reason for that). Everything comes loose, like my ex.
I did a similar thing with a cheap steel student snare. A little rtv under the flanges, and a little rubberized undercoating inside, the snare "calmed" down from it's annoying "pang" to a crisp, and drier cut. Sounded like a $350 hammered steel snare. Same top and bottom remo heads you installed.
Hey Dave, fellow Richmonder over here. Good stuff! Just got started with a cheap set, so this kind of stuff is really helpful.
just like with guitars/basses. you can take a $100-150 guitar and do some customizing, and it will sound like a $1,000-1500 guitar. its not hard ...if you know what you are doing.
or take one thats ragged out, it can be brought back to life without much effort or money.
when are you going to remake the Remote Hihat for the suitcase drum set??
I used to use that same snare combo! Now I’ve been using the Remo Controlled Sound X and Evans Hazy 300’s on the reso sides. Also I switched to Phat Cat snares after I got a set on sale at a local shop to replace the Pure Tones I had and ended up liking the responsiveness even more.
This needs more views. You seem extremely knowledgeable and I really enjoyed this to the end.
Turn it into a lamp
Gaz Jones81: creative.
faht lei. Well it's not much use as a snare if RdavidR isn't going to use it.
Lmao!
Inside the Gibson Tour Buses, they use snare shells with coated heads on the ceiling lights. The hand rail getting on the bus is a guitar neck. Amazing tour bus.
möth
I vote piccolo snare conversion or clock.
Ooooooooo,I vote "clock",like Kenny here suggested!!! That'd look so cool!!!
menom7 I have made a drum clock. Check out the video I made about the build!
I commend you for your patience and skill in upgrading the snare shaped paper weight. That is, it was a paper weight before you upgraded it. After it is a decent sounding drum. Plus just knowing the quality improvements you made makes it that much more attractive to own.
thank you so much for this video, good detail with your work.
Hey Dave, you should make a video about practicing. (Practice pads, rudiments, etc)
Nate sounds like a moron.
marty sounds like an asshole
I would customize it even more, removing the manufacturer's logo and putting your own (a nice side project) and then just donate it to someone from your subs.
would be a nice story to tell at dinner parties
That drum key cinematography....!!!👌👌👌
I bought this snare a year ago. I took the top head off and coated the interior with Elmer's Wood Stabilizer, sanded and waxed the rim, then put on a decent top head. I suck at drumming, but I've had three really good drummers play it-- and they all said it sounded really good!
You should slice it in two and try to make an adjustable height snare
I actually refinished my Ludwig accent kit when the wrap peeled off and when I did that I did coat the interior with polyurethane, as well as cleaned up the bearing edges, added gaskets and did your cotton ball trick except I used that egg foam stuff. And the kit sounded so much better when I was done.
Cool video, Dave. Always interesting subjects and video execution.
You should hang the snare in a forest and record yourself acting surprised about it.
Edgy Little Boi come to watch some drum vids cause fed up of seeing Logan Paul shit I can't escape from it
Harry Charles yeah.
ffs
And then start laughing and making jokes about it too.
Lmfao
Iv seen snared that have huge air vents like 2-3 inchs i think you should cut some and see what it does to the sound and im guessing that would make the shell even weaker so put some reinforcement rings in
Excellent! I did basically the same thing to a whole Gretsch Catalina Club kit, as the bearing edges were a bit rough, the tuning rods were dry and the heads were crap. It sounded a whole lot better, but I sold it anyway, and went back to Pearl.
love your videos! definitely best drum related youtuber, your content is so original! keep it up!
So this is what Lars used in St. Anger...
Yes. Definitely. haha
Gotta love that lars was tryn to be unique and ended up pissing the music community off!!! Lol
st.anger snare is not quite unique. Ukrainian hardcore band called Skinhate used at 100% the same snare like st.anger, but in 1998)
Lars used a Tama Bell Brass snare on St. Anger. 6" or 8" depth by 14". I believe all his drums were raw, only using overhead microphones. But yeah the tone on the snare was obnoxiously horrible.
😂
I play guitar and don't even play drums and really enjoyed this video haha
Nicely done! You used your 11 minutes very efficiently and taught me some useful stuff. It's funny how often I'll work on a student's new kit, and the snare, which they think is fine, sounds like yours "straight out of the box."
I like the way it sounds, after the new drum heads and the work you put into it. That would be good for your suitcase set.
You should find the cheapest drum kit and do the same thing.
he already did...
twice
I think..
He did it with the 40 dollar drum kit and the 20
"And requires basically no tools"
Proceeds to use a drill and a screw driver
Face The Bear pretty much everyone has a screwdriver. Don’t need a drill but it helps speed the process up
dude how do you not have a drill and a screw driver
@@ezicarus8216 yeah apparently
@@genryhennis2102 And pliers, hammers, power drill, circular saw, various hand saws, grinder, recip. saw, drill bit sets, bench vise, vise grips, channel locks, etc. etc. etc....
@@snakeknife7518 all you really need is a drum key and a screwdriver lol most important things he did were replace the heads and the snares and those or the only tools required to do so
Awesome video! thanks for taking the time to make it. learned a lot :)
Cool video. Nice job with the sound and I learned some new grooves too. Thx man. I would add I love to use the 64 strand snares. They really make a sub par drum kick.
Dude you should totally make a bass drum beater out of an egg shaker thing
I know the things inside it would fall out, but I mean like adhere it to the top of a 1/4” inch rod
Casey cooper plays with fire sticks. You should play with fire drums
Great learning lesson for me David!
Worth it!!! Nice going and thanks for the tips!
Lars ulrich just called
He wants his snare back
Good one
bahahahahahaha
2003 called. They want their Lars snare joke back.
@Wodsobe Dobe Unoriginal people yes.
Make a piccalo drum out of it :)
A fun and interesting little project. If you are like me, a drum junkie, than it makes perfect sense. I confess, I did almost exactly the same things you did. I tried something a little different with the springs in the cheap old style Pearl lug knock offs. I used spray -in foam insulation. Spray for like a nano second or you end up with a blob of foam you have to use a razor knife to sculpt the lug back into being. But it works. As for what to do with it, I ended up doing three of them, one in each of the finishes they were selling them in on ebay at the time..and gave them to a local Catholic elementary school band so kids who's folks couldn't afford to buy stuff like that would have something to learn on. (I'm not Catholic, but they aren't rich. So we're even... : ) Thanks for posting this. It's a fun watch.
Pretty good sound in the end. Shows how good a good set of heads can make to the sound.
see people this is why you ptta put more money into your hardware and cymbals first. you can make a ehh snare sound ok but you cant make bad cymbals sound good
Exactly
My cheap cymbals sound great!! They're made of rubber but sound like the $700 cymbal they recorded samples of in a million dollar studio to put in my drum module!
This is more or less the advice I was given when I started out. If you're touring the pub circuit, some well-placed mics and a properly-adjusted EQ can make your thin, crappy kick and toms sound like the real deal. Cheap cymbals, though? No way. You can't hide the sound of kitchen utensils being smashed together.
This.
Great respect for your work! But imho it makes more sense to spend 100 bucks on a used brand snare than pimp a cheap one!
someone with common sense!
Awesome video! Love the upgrades bro!
I like the groove you used to demonstrate the sound after your modifications.
2:15 I'd literally murder for a snare that sounds half as good as that
Whould u ever think of using timbales I use the and we use them in mexican bands with a snare with hihats 3 cow bells and a crash cymble and have u ever heard a brand called herch it's a good brand if u want a deep snare or bass drum
ahi viene el torooo, que salga el toroo. lo que yoo quiero es toreaaar
More cowbell
Kind of insane the sound you were able to have with it...nice work man
cool vid! great job on the editing, sound fx, and with how thorough you are showing process. I've tinkered around with re-doing old drums, and such for years, and I still learned some things! the trick with the 90degree 'tooth picker thingy' and using the needle-nose pliers to squeeze the springs is gold!
I would be interested to hear different tuning/mufflings on it though-
keep it up!
Make a high pitched fx snare out of it.
/ Daniel Fletcher of D.S. (a Swedish synthrock / synthpop group)
You should make a Damascus steel metal snare drum. Because why not
TY !!! found this to be entertaining...giving some love to a drum never hurts..i own 3 1960s Japanese sets that I play in small places, so did what you did on them all...
Great video for drummer who wants to deconstruct to improve. Sounds great
You should turn this into a lamp...
If you're not gonna play it... at least look at it once in a while ;)
Mount a leg to it, christmas story style
I have a distant family member that went through some horrible stuff at the hands of a close relative of theirs. My sister has recently adopted this kid and I just found out that he is extremely talented at many things, drums being his most passionate talent. I am going to my storage today to pull out what we have of an old drum set that my drummer used to play on, and we know for sure that there isn't a snare...Would you be willing to donate it for a good cause? Music is the best kind of therapy!
hope he's ok 3 years later
I've been drumming for 18 years, but never seen the inside of a lug. Thank you for showing me something new! =)
Interesting! I'd have also waxed the bearing edges and replaced the plastic snare straps with cords. Since i never use the internal mute on a snare i would have left it off. For packing the lugs, i like using gray felt weatherstripping (found at most hardware stores). I like the Tung oil idea...i gotta get some of that!
Piccolo snare?
Love the conclusion! After all that work, still not worth it. Lol
Wow! So many tips I had no idea about. Thanks!
@ 5:40 - this little trick to dampen the spring with cotton wool is similar to the method used to deaden the "spring" sound on a Strat-style tremolo, only I use cut sponge foam rather than cotton woo and have it actually inside the springs - which of course are larger than these drum ones so it's quite easy