Best Driver Swing For Senior Golfers
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2020
- If you're not as flexible as you once were, or were never flexible to begin with, here are 3 super simple tips to help increase your range of motion. Before you even pull the club back, you can set yourself up to start blasting the ball MUCH farther down the fairway than you have in a LONG time (or ever).
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Like many golfers I watch ton of different voices from UA-cam instructors on here. Clay has THE swing I want.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
I'm not a senior but I often have lower back pain that impacts my golf game. I always feel really tight in backswing. This video has helped a ton with range of motion and distance off the tee
Thanks! I played daily since March 16 at Crosswater. At age 50, I want to develop a senior swing that helps me swing daily without back pain. This is so helpful!!
My pleasure!
I pick up great instructions from your videos. The part about changing the backswing more vertical is game changer for me. I picked up distance and I feel more in sync.
Glad to help!
Off to the range tomorrow to try this. Thank you!
Good luck!
My golf coach told me to do the flared foot thing and weight on back foot which brings your leading foot off the ground a bit on the back stroke and change weight to leading foot as your swing comes forward. Loose wrists as well. I am 70, a bit stiff and only took up golf a couple of years ago. This really works for me
Nice video Clay! Keep up the great work
Thanks!
dang Clay, with being Q'd and watching your lessons I should be a 8 or 10 in 3 months. You are good my friend.
Thanks Melvin!
Clay, I really enjoy your videos. You have a good balance between the details and the big picture. Your balanced approach seems very practical and easy to comprehend. I am jealous of your Flightscope though! I am convinced that if I had one of those, I would be a much better golfer!!
Thanks!
I will be 55 in May....I am lucky enough to have the flexibility to currently get a 275yd drive. Having said that - it doesn't mean I will not give the video techniques a bit of a try! Thank you Clay!
My pleasure! Hope you can get up to 300!
I thought the Matt Kuchar part was cool but kinda funny because he actually did change to his one-plane swing to sacrifice power for accuracy when he was younger due to inconsistencies when trying to swing too fast. I do think the high disconnected hands is a more advanced technique but if someone is a mid-low handicap who's getting up there in age it may help for keeping up with the young guns if they can keep the same consistency.
Thanks for sharing!
👍👍 Definitely a shortage of videos out there for golfers over 50 that aren't directed at high handicap seniors. Do a search on YT and almost every one deals with coming over the top and how to fix a slice. Frustrating. You are one of the few vloggers that covers more general subjects for all aging golfers, especially simple ways to gain clubhead speed . You should start a series specifically for that. Lot of potential views being left in cyberspace.
Hey, thanks for the comment. I recommend working through our 20 Minute Distance Fix program. People of all ages and abilities are gaining tons of distance on this program. See what our members are saying about it here: topspeedgolf.com/20-minute-distance-fix-success-stories/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
There is a widespread perception that old golfers didn’t take up the game until they retired and moved to the Villages. Actually, most older golfers once played to a good standard and aren’t interested in becoming short game gurus as they age. My experience with younger instructors (why are they all young?) is that they don’t understand the effects of aging on the body. It’s difficult until it actually happens to you. Anyways, I appreciate Clay making a serious effort to address my demographic and his advice is spot on.
you are no.1
clay, this was a bit of an eye opener because over the years i've gotten more flat and restricted with my swing. i have the snow cleared from driveway so i can at least go out and do some air swings. thnx.
Absolutely
Actually moving up to the more forward tees in a great idea for seniors or anyone that doesn't hit far (kids, some ladies...), not only because it is shorter and gives you a much better chance at a par on every hole, but also because sometimes it takes hazards out of play (such as water), or makes the hazard not as bad (going across the edge of a body of water instead of directly over the middle of it for example). Take advantage of those different tee areas. The course and slope rating of them are such that they will work into your handicap. However if you want, you can use your own MUCH simpler handicap system if you just play yourself for fun. I would take my score (let's say I shot 106), and take the difference from par for the course (let's say 70), and use that 36 shot difference to make the par 3s par 5s, the par 4s would be par 6s, and the par 5s would be par 7s. Then I just try to shoot par (106 actual, 70 with my handicap system). As you improve, then you will get less help. For example if you shoot a 100, then maybe the next round at that same course, only give yourself 30 additional strokes. Eventually you might get it down to 1 stroke per hole handicap (you will shoot an 88 on a par 70 course). Those numbers are more realistic for an occasional amateur golfer. Someone hitting the ball 300 yards doesn't help the average golfer much. Hitting the drives far is way down on the list of problems of a high handicap golfer. Hitting the greens for approach shots is where they suffer the most I think. Lessons on how to hit greens from 150 yards and in would likely help them the most and also how to recover from bad shots.
Thanks for sharing!
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard - "canned" answers / replies by you.
These tips are especially good for the senior golfer who has been a single digit HCP most of his life.
Very similar to what Jack did! Awesome!
Thanks Tony!
Currently on my third artificial hip on right side due to an accident years ago. I am a righty and only 56. I do exactly as you describe on the feet flared out. I also take a half step back with the right foot just prior to my backswing. I set up just as you show, double flared feet, then a half step back with right foot and swing. Only way I can get rotation. And I still don’t hit it over 230, in fact quite happy with 230 on the short grass! Good video. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing!
Clay, I played golf my whole life. I'm now 60 years old and due to arthritis I have a lot of pain when I create that big swing. Do you have any suggestions for getting the power without hurting yourself? Your instructions and help me really improve my golf game.
I would just try to free up your body as much as you can. Don't restrict yourself. Flare your feet out at address. Let the lead heel come off the ground. Raise the arms. None of this should be painful under normal circumstances but if you have arthritis then there isn't a lot you can do to avoid the pain. Hope you live somewhere that isn't humid. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I’m 76 and have had rheumatoid arthritis for about 30 years. In addition to a biologic, my doc put me on a med called Tramadol about 10 years ago. He said that the risk of becoming sedentary was worse than the effects of the med ... at least for me. It has allowed me to continue enjoying golf and benefiting from great golf instruction well into the back nine of lfe 😎
I’ve 76, been playing off and on for more than six decades. From the senior tees I still play to an 8 HCP. This is not because of any geriatric short game wizardry but because I can drive the ball high and in the 220-240 range. A few years ago I changed my swing to one upright and dominated by arms in order to hang onto distance. As you get older, the advice Clay offers is the only way to achieve distance, as the body just gets too slow and stiff. Even with 20 years of yoga I have turned into an inflexible old guy. The tradeoff is a loss of consistency. One day I shoot 75, a week later it’s an 83.
Thanks for sharing!
I swing my 3wood faster than my driver, I wonder if a smaller headed driver would help with the swing speed, could you do a video comparison on driver head size as far as swing speed & distance.. Thanks
Hi John, that shouldn't happen. You're likely not fit properly for your driver. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Another great video 👍🏻 What about SMASH FACTOR. Can you do a video on how to increase Smash Factor. I understand increasing club head speed results in greater distance, but there's probably a maximum (club head speed) that anyone can achieve. How to we get the most BALL SPEED (e.g. Smash Factor) with whatever club head speed we have. Is it merely a matter of hitting the center of the clubface, or are there other things we can do?
Hi Mike, it's basically just hitting it in the center and with as much club head speed as you can. The biggest smash factor you can get with a driver is about 1.5. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard - I don't think that is true. If you had a super heavy driver and/or one with a "hot" face (high C.O.R.), you can likely get significantly (10+%) higher (1.65 for example). You didn't say with an approved for play driver. Swing a hot faced heavy club 100 MPH and I bet the ball will jump off at about 165 MPH for a smash factor of 1.65. It is roughly analogous to using a heavy bat for softball or baseball in that you don't have to get the bat moving as fast to get good power. I use a heavy bat for homerun derby for example and I beat my "ripped" nephew who is half my age and same weight as me. My swing is better than his too.
David James So how do you get faster bat speed with a heavier bat? I agree with you, but...
Golf shafts are getting lighter to increase club head speed (heavier usually means slower), so how do you increase speed if heavier? 🤔
@Mike Perski - a heavy bat/club will slow down, but have a higher smash factor because of the higher mass (assuming everything else is roughly equal). Think about it, if lighter was always better for distance, then why don't homerun derby contestants use plastic wiffle ball bats? The reason is rather obvious... our bodies can only move so fast, even with no bat/club in our hands. We need enough mass in the bat/club to get power, without significantly slowing down the swing. That translates into good power. How heavy depends on a lot of factors and I don't know the optimal formula. When I play homerun derby, I tend to use the heavy bat (31 oz) while I am "fresh" (the first bucket/inning), but as I get tired but more limbered up, I switch to a lighter bat (23 oz). That seems to work well for me.
I have a challenge for Clay... take his normal driver and swing about 90% (or however hard he swings to get those 300 yard drives). Do about 10 of these and record the average ball speed. Next, add lead weight to that driver so that it goes from what it was (say D3 swingweight) to maybe E3 and after a few practice hits to get used to the extra weight, go ahead and hit 10 of those and also get a ball speed average. I suspect the club head will slow down with "E3" but the average ball speed will remain similar to the "D3" average ball speed. A better test might be to go a little under his nornal swingweight for the lighter club but a little heavier swingweight for the heavier club. For example, if he normally uses a D3, maybe go C8 for the lighter and D8 for the heavier.
I think Rory McIlroy uses a heavy swingweight driver, yet he does quite well for distance with it.
Hey I just added 20 to 30 more yards to my driver. I finally got the secret after all these years of doing it wrongly... I moved up to the forward tees. Wow did it improve my game!
That's great David! Thanks for sharing.
Love ya Clay..... genius .... BUT u "forgot" one big thing in the back swing .... and that if to allow the back leg to straighten up to bring that left heel off the ground by the rotation . Keeping right knee stuck gets no turn going really .... straighten the back leg .... it's a winwin for everything else in this .... i'm serious ;)
Thanks for sharing!
Hi clay I have trouble hit the ball up hill line i keep pull to the left can u help me with that please
Hey Roy, match your shoulders to the slope and use more club because you'll lose distance. The slope is going to add loft. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thank u so much clay u are the best
I find it difficult to allow my left heel to come up when I flair the lead foot open 45 degrees. I also noticed you kept your feet flat on the backswing as well. Is it either or....
You can do any combination. Whatever helps you turn the best.
how do you rotate on the follow through if you've broken your ankle six times and have no balance on your left side?
Sorry to hear if that's your situation. That's probably a better question for a Sports Doctor. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Q: Great insight regarding high arms, but how does TONY FINAU (who's one of the longer hitters on Tour) get so much swing speed and distance when his backswing is so short and his arms are so low? Just curious. Seems like his swing is so simple with less moving parts.
HI Mike, he is an incredible athlete. He would hit it further if he took it back further. If you can swing 120 mph with a short swing then this video isn't really for you :-) Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
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Video started off nicely as things seniors can do but didn’t really make sense towards the end where you discuss higher hands and shoulder turn. Those things are restrictions for seniors as well.
Not if you make the adjustments we talk about in the video
nice lesson Clay, but Fred Couples isnt in his sixties sorry man lol
Thanks for sharing!
I don’t care how far Bubba Watson can drive a golf ball. He hasn’t won a tournament in I don’t know how long.
Bubba is already a has been!
This technique seems to work! The other day I sliced one into the woods with my driver and I then flung that driver into the nearby retention pond, carefully checking my compression line to be proper and wow, the club flew 20 to 30 yards farther than a normal chucked club. The local club pro came rushing over to complement me on my good form.
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Please stay away from elementary schools sir
@Mike Jones - because of CoronaVirus?
@Mike Jones - What does your statement have to do with this post or golf in general?
3:40 You picked up about 20 yards including both rolls, not about 30 yards as stated. Why would you exclude the roll distances which was more on the previously shown shot?
Thanks for pointing it out. Hope you're playing great! ~ Q
I lose control when I free up.
Your spine angle is likely moving all over the place. I would look from face on and make sure you're not leaning toward the target at the top of the swing. You can fix this by working through the Stable & Fluid Spine course available to members on the website. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard Just like I figured / expected. I asked this person (Clay) if he could use me as a "test subject" to see if what he is "preaching" here really works. I offered to be a "guinea pig" to see if he can add 16 MPH to my approx 100 MPH driver swing. I even offered to sign a waiver that if I injure myself at his "clinic", I am fully responsible. So far (it has been about a week), no offer from anyone there to me. What does that tell you people? I can swing a club in the air as fast as I can (let's say it is 100 MPH). How then would setting up to the ball properly and having a good "compression angle" make ANY difference? If anything it will slow me down because then I actually have to hit the ball as opposed to just swinging as hard as I can "in the air". I am reading about a 9 out of 10 on my BS meter on this one (10 = total BS).
People, if your drives don't go far enough, just move up to the next nearer tees. A 400 yard par 4 might then only be 380 yards (reachable in 2 by most average golfers). I swing my driver 100 MPH and I still have a lot of trouble getting on the green in 2 on par 4s. I don't have an established handicap but I am sure it would be 20 or more. With your handicap (let's say 18 so 1 stroke per hole so a par 4 effectively becomes a par 5 for you), you should be at a distance where you can get on in 3 (for a real par 4 which is an effective par 5 for you), about 50% of the time. Just a rule of thumb. That way you will be on in "handicap regulation" 50% of the time, and have a 2 put for your handicap par on that hole (but sometimes you might get a birdie). That makes golf fun when you have a 50% chance of a handicap par and a 50% chance of something else.
Hi David, you are more than welcome to become a member of the website and then sign up to come to a distance clinic. Unfortunately, all the clinics we have scheduled right now are cancelled due to Covid19. You can save your money and play the short tees too until you run out of tees to move up to. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard - That is not totally true... If my distance got so short that even the forwardmost tees were too long, I could just change to a shorter course. They are not all the same distance. I can almost guarantee you that your clinic will NEVER get 16 more MPH out of my swing. There is no logical way it can. My body will only go so fast and I don't want to train for a year just to be able to swing faster and possibly injure my body.
Tells me you're trying to get a free lesson. C'mon man, stop being so cheap.
@@jgroend It wont work. NO way I can swing faster than I already am. My body will not allow it. His claim is BS.
2:34 "dead straight", tracker shows significantly to the left of target line. 3:28 "another nice straight one there": tracker again shows significantly to the left. Mr. Clay and Mr. tracker don't seem to agree on what is "straight".
David James straight can mean straight left or straight right as oppose to down the middle! I hit the ball dead straight, seldom does it find the middle of a fairway but it doesn’t hook or fade. But I know what you are saying.
@andy wallace - I think you meant to say draw or fade. Also, what good is hitting the ball straight if it is off the target line? Perhaps if you are trying to win a straight hitting contest but you would need some fancy tracker to check that. Hitting the ball "dead straight" is also a way to lose distance. A nice draw usually rolls out farther than a straight ball so a well placed draw should outdistance a straight ball overall (carry + roll).
Hey David, yeah, the FlightScope may have been aimed to the right of where Clay was aiming. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard ....He’s not playing well ..... none of us are .... if he is “playing well” and he’s still on YT shitting on the Top Speed Team then he doesn’t need golf help, he needs help gettin .....we’ll just call it it romance for the sake of this awesome sites dignity .... Stay away from schools David James, please, for the kids sake.
@Mike Jones - I am waiting for TSG to accept my challenge to add 16 MPH to my swing thru technique and training. I don't see how that can happen and so far, they have not informed me of any acceptance so what does that tell you about their confidence level? No acceptance = a high reading on my BS meter. Chill out Mike Jones... have a Corona beer. I am giving TSG a chance to prove to me what they are saying is true. The reason I suspect it wont work is because many golfers are already doing many of the things he said. I could just go somewhere that can check my clubhead speed, spend about 10 minutes trying different swings, and just pick the one that has the highest speed, but what did that gain me? MORE important than swing speed is good ball striking. Use homerun derby as an analogy. Those guys pretty much swing the same speed for each attempt, yet only some go over the fence. The reason is better contact on those. A better lesson would be how to hit the driver such that you hit the sweet spot MUCH more often. I suspect the average golfer would prefer a consistent 225 yards in the fairway (not swinging 100%), vs. a range of 200 to 250 but wild / unpredictable from swinging "too hard". What good is getting 20 to 25 more yards if it only happens occasionally? Maybe it is fine for team better/best ball format, but for individual play, I would want the 225 "down the middle" each time ideally so I have enough energy to finish all 18 holes without getting too tired. That is what the title of his next instruction video should be... "How golfers can hit the fairways way more often swinging 75% with proper technique".
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard - Your title is "Best Driver Swing for Senior Golfers", yet I didn't hear you mention anything about how old people have stiff muscles, limited range of motion, low stamina... yet you are giving instruction as if they were healthy like a 30 year old. Do you expect a senior golfer to go out and have a swing like yours? They are lucky if they can hit half a bucket of balls on the range before needing a 3 hour nap. This is exactly why they have the forward tees for seniors (or anyone that hits shorter than the average golfer). It is so those people have a reasonable chance at getting par without having to hole out from 100 yards (if they had teed off from the back tees on par 4s and 5s). My swing speed slowed down over the past 10 years which is normal since my body is protecting itself. I just moved up to the nearer tee box to compensate. No practice, no drills, no extra money for lessons, no delays... DONE! I'm off to the golf course.
Thanks for sharing! We use the same principles with people that come in for clinics (most are seniors) and it works really well. That is why you have to make some adjustments like what were talked about in the video. You can certainly move to the next closest tee but where does it end? Golf is just more fun and easier to play when you hit it further. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard - It ends when you get to the forwardmost red tees. That is what my dad used to do since he could only drive it about 160 yards, yet I witnessed him get an eagle 2 on a par (he hit somewhere around 280 yards total for those 2 shots). Golf is easier to play when you move forward, not when you hit it farther. Hitting it long takes power and that saps energy out of old people that don't have much to begin with. I bet if Clay had coached my dad, you would NEVER get him to hit 200 yards. I can almost guarantee that.
Looks nothing like a senior swing to me.
Thanks for sharing!
We don't really know if that machine is accurate for this video. It could be biased by 5% or 10% and we wouldn't have a way of knowing that.
Hi David, you're exactly right. We could mess with the elevation numbers and make the ball fly further. I haven't ever messed with it but I believe the default on FlightScope is 500 ft which really wouldn't jack up the numbers and it about where we are at in Florida. You can choose to believe what you want. Not much I can do about it. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@Top Speed Golf - How about let me try it cuz I know how far I hit and how fast I swing. I am closeby. If you convince me it is accurate then I see Clay hit a few without you tinkering with the machine, then I might be convinced it is accurate for him too.