CIA Stories: The Jakarta Method
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2023
- Abby Martin speaks with journalist Vincent Bevins about the hidden CIA mass murder in Indonesia, which created the model for US extermination campaigns against communists in 22 countries during the Cold War.
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Listening to this as an indonesian is eye opening, as if this happened in an alternate reality. None of this information is taught in schools, available or even discussed in society. Indonesia has a horrible habit of sweeping its many atrocities under the rug and never confronting nor holding anyone accountable for it.
Really wonder what our country could have been like if these events didn't come to pass. We now have a rotten to the core capitalistic society where power and corruption is the only driving factor.
It's always been a "conspiracy" that soeharto was a puppet controlled by the US and the coup against soekarno was all planned to "silence" and "de-power" Indonesia because the US are basically scared of its potential. They don't want to have another country like Russia or China as a rival
30+ year long with only a foot of advancement in our country is just disgusting. Knowing all the resources & population that we had. There's no common sense in it if we're trying to think about the progress of this country since our independence
The CIA-backed Indonesian Communist purge is so shockingly unknown outside of Indonesia. Even Indonesians themselves don't know the true story behind it.
Real
True, many of my friends today yet still don't know the total number of death post G30S-PKI event. They only know general story of it, not the dark detail
I'm an Indo (Indonesian father, Eastern European mother) born in the Eastern Europe. My father, a student activist and VP for Eastern Europe of an Indonesian student association and studing in the then Indonesian friendly country, was a victim of the Jakarta method. He was recorded on the so called B list - to be arrested, questioned and if "proven guilty" executed. His "guilt" was the fact that he won scholarship to study in a communist country and was a nephew of a teacher (my grandpa's younger brother) who was a leader of PKI (communists) faction in the assembly of one of the indonesian provinces. Because my father never returned to live in Indonesia, he avoided the fate of many left-leaning Indonesians. Speaking of my father's uncle, he was on the A list and to be executed. However, he was spared because of our aristocratic background and the family history in supporting anticolonial cause. He was interned in the political penal collony on the Buru island (one of the camps mr Bevin calls "concentration" camps). Fortunately, he was released by the amnesties in the late 1970s and 1980s and lived near his family (a wife and a son) without them (and most of the wider family) knowing except of the chosen few (myself included). He did and secretly supported the wife and the son with our help so that his family avoid further social stigma.
While a lot of us one way or another are diaspora victims of US imperialism and Euro colonialism, I go around calling out my woke (POC) peers in the US about their "empire privilege" they hold over the rest of the global population under our boot. The US public is completely clueless about all of this. Carry your father's legacy forward brother.
It is No good in communism or capitalists unless you have your own companies of nationalists working the wealth for the Citizens No foreign interest
Thank you for sharing, brother.
@@likuidmethodtrust me, black Americans are very much stuck in under the boot depending on where you live. If you're born into money, you're right about that empire privilege...but if you're a poor black kid in a predominantly white neighborhood? Eh.
This is a precious book/movie material! Write it down!!!
Abby Martin is one of the few journalists that can get me to drop whatever else I'm doing and immediately see what they have to say, and The Jakarta Method is a fantastic and illuminating book. This will be an amazing interview
Absolutely 😂
Me to
Celebrity cult worwhip journalism... Yes america is the biggest terror and a top genocide master
Fancy that
Same
I'm Chilean, and this story..the method, the tactics..seem so familiar with the events that happened in my own country the 70's..that makes me even more sad/angry :-/
Chile is one of the focus of Bevins book.
Pinochet, the army and CIA learned a great deal from what worked in Indonesia, as Bevins build in the book but he didn't say in the book, probably because of time, space, and focus, is that Indonesian activist in the late 80s and 90s also learned a great deal about the social movement in Chile to eventually toppled Soeharto. Students would go to underground discussion about Allende and the junta.
Claudio... Viva Chile. Viva Pinochet...
@@luiscoutinho1139 Its too bad Venezuelan Military never had a Pinochet or Franco! Same with Cuba....
@@luiscoutinho1139 pero que jocoso..no has pensado en dedicarte al humor?
Its designed that way I'm afraid. Shameful shit indeed
The List of participating countries of the April 1955 Asian-African Conference in Bandung is amazingly similar to the list of countries we have illegally interfered with ever since:
Afghanistan, Burma, Cambodia, Ceylon, China, Cyprus, Egypt, Ethiopia, Gold Coast, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Jordan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Sudan, Thailand, Turkey, South & North Vietnam, Yemen.
OMG, it reads like a target list.
@@bryanemmel6516 it kinda is, isn't it?
Is there " legal INTERFERENCE "?????
@@christopherczajasager9030 Yes. It is proper to take action after a UN Resolution is passed indicating it is necessary to do so. Otherwise it is illegal.
Hegemony beats sovereignty every time. Privatization of National assets as requirement to receive aid is blackmail benefiting Banks, Big Oil & Corporatocracy. 68 years of Global South manipulation may finally be recognized & slowly reversed. India's refusal to cow-tow to US State Department is a healthy development.
This is a great and horrifying book. Like many other US imperialist violence movements, it's inhuman what our govt does overseas.
The Pequot Extermination Method was stateside. (see MobyDick, Herman Melville)
By my best calculations, I figure that since 1950, the US Government - through direct conflict, its dirty wars, its covert operations, its sanctions programs, etc. - has been responsible for the deaths of, at least, 30 million people worldwide.
And most Americans would scoff, if you suggested such a thing, to them.
What so funny is Americans accusing communist propaganda is so bad while their own cold war propaganda is inhaled daily like oxygen.
Abby Martin is one of the most significant voices of our times. She's willing to speak truth to power with such courage, conviction and tenacity, and in such a compelling and thought provoking manner with these interviews and documentaries. Thank you for bringing such care and integrity to the field of journalism. 🙏
She's legend.... keep on Abby Martin!
The Jakarta Method is being repeated again, this time in Pakistan. Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (Movement for Justice) is the Indonesian Communist Party, today, & the US trained military is backing a puppet government which is trying to destroy PTI & its leader, Imran Khan, because he wanted to chart a more independent course for Pakistan politically, diplomatically & economically of US influence.
I hope things don’t get as bad as they did in Indonesia.
Pakistan is different though. Military has always been the most dominant political force in the first place, they're simply doing a soft retreat and allowing IK to hold a semblance of power for a certain period because they had to in order to maintain legitimacy among the masses. Guided Democracy, on the other hand, effectively split Indonesia's politics into a dual power structure between national-militarist and communist factions that, despite one side being diametrical opposite to other, still share common interest with and submitted to Soekarno's order, guidance and prohibition.
Like Vincent said, it is a method that the U.S. is unlikely to discard.
Bull$hit! There is no bigger enemy of Pakistan than Imran Khan.
You forget to mention Imran has taken a u-turn - as always - and now claims US had nothing to do with his removal; in fact now he says America is his friend and has hired 3 lobbying firms in US to try and get their support in installing him back as PM by any means necessary.
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 True. He WAS selected - never elected - and the military has finally confessed to their crime....of course no punishment will come their way....
pak is nothing more than a proxy of the west from its fraudulent creation. built on stolen land it has no right to, presiding over alien people it has no right to encompass. it has been used as a base for US crimes since it was founded.
Excellent talk, Americans need to know the real history of their government's actions.
So do Indonesians. There is still a massive phobia of communism here. It is still illegal to be a communist or an athiest.
I never believed anything like this could be even a little true...and now in my 50's, I feel amazed any American is welcome anywhere in the world...
@@scox7748 the scars it still remain deep in our soul and mentality
@@primemarketing7218 but the scars weren't caused by communists, they were caused by America. Communism shouldnt be something to be feared and banned.
@@scox7748 Indonesia menjunjung tinggi kebebasan berbicara dan berserikat ☺️☝️, jadi 🇮🇩 memang menolak komunis yg diktator. Atheis di 🇮🇩 tidak dilarang, umumnya mereka yg atheis di 🇮🇩 menulis diri mereka penganut kepercayaan di ID mereka.
After ww2 when the Dutch with the backing of America and the Australian government/capitalist ruling class the Australian communist party played a major role in helping Indonesia defeat the Dutch. The Dutch needed to dock and re supply their military in Australia to fight the Indonesian independence movement. The Australian communists wouldn’t allow it. Many Australian communists where killed and imprisoned by the Australian government as a result. It worked in the end and the Indonesian independence won. There was a great solidarity at the time between Australian and Indonesian communists.
Needs to be told more. Heroes of anti colonialism ...
For me as a Dutchman a role for Australian communists during the "Police actions" in 1948/49 is fully unknown. Any recommended reading on this?
@@blokkadeleideryou should read Book title "Tan Malaka" by Author Harry A Poeze, i dont know available in english or not, if you can read in dutch or Indonesia that book give detail about early indonesia communist movement, they got some support from dutch communist in australia when they got to exile when Japan invade Indonesia
@@tomster95 I am Dutch so that won't be a problem :)
@@blokkadeleider bingo hahaha
Abby Martin you're truly one of The Greatest Journalist that ever existed. Thank you for all you Hardwork.
Warganet Indonesia hadir!🖐️🇮🇩 I honestly never anticipate this video to ever be made, like at all. So, thank you so much for putting your efforts and energy in the making of this important video Abby🙏🥰
+62 citizen present!
This video should really be translated into Indonesian and made viral. Simply too many pro-US idiots who have no idea the real story of 1965.
The killings of so many Malay Sultan's in Sumatra Barat is almost identical with this story...
I love the Internet; it’s so global.
👍👍
Masih mending PKI di hancurkan daripada 🇮🇩 akan kayak 🇨🇳🇰🇵 dan Myanmar yg diperbudak oleh junta militer, justru PKI hancur lebih bagus. Sekarang 🇮🇩 ☺️☝️ telah mulai maju perlahan-lahan dgn demokrasi, bahkan kelompok2 intoleran juga ikut menikmati demokrasi di 🇮🇩 dgn cara menyegel rumah ibadah agama lain, dan ☺️☝️ sibuk kritik sampai hina presiden. Kalau seandainya PKI yg menang 🇮🇩 gak akan menikmati kebebasan berserikat dan berkumpul kayak sekarang.
I read "The Jakarta Method", a fantastic book. This conversation adds even more. Excellent
What CIA and Soeharto did to Indonesia was massive dismissal of intellectual Indonesian that would make and shape newly Independent country potential to be powerful country.
In Soeharto Era even in many industry and sectors are seems everything backwards very corrupt and worse than when colonial Netherlands.
Indonesia under Soeharto was a colony of US, a new way to of colonialism without being called or seen as colonialist.
Basically the 1965 massacre is one of a core reason why our country can be this miserable and hard to be prosper, people always think about our poor education as a simple reas but if they want to learn history deeper, they will realize that there's something dark that makes our country still cannot be prosper
How to solve this? It's simple but need a power, which is reconciliate it, judge the criminal in the court, stripped away the oligarchs that has connection with 1965 massacre new order era regime and rebuild our society and birocracy from zero and reflect what our country once wants to be like what explain in UUD 1945
It has been a while since I saw an Empire Files video. It's good to see you Abby Martin!!!
I love the way they pull back and show the entire setting of lights, cameras, tripods, microphone booms, and more. That provides an accurate reflection of how Abby focuses not on any cosmetic visage, but on the cold, hard, undeniable facts.
My parents lived during the Soekarno years.
Soekarno was a great revolutionary leader, not a good nation builder though. He was a womanizer. And the CIA knew that. So when he came to visit Kennedy in Washington DC, Soekarno was "given" Marilyn Monroe to sleep with him. She called him "Prince Soekarno". Some say the sexual act was recorded.
After Soekarno came back to Indonesia, the CIA wanted to use the video to blackmail him. His reply was "can I get a copy? I want to watch it with my friends".
Soekarno was a Muslim, yes. But he was an Indonesian Muslim. And he was proud in being a womanizer. He was married 9 times. He came to Japan for an official visit, was wined and dined by the government there, served by a pretty geisha and said to her "do you want to be my daily source of inspiration?" Not "do you want to sleep with me? Or do you want to marry me?".
CIA couldn't buy or control him. So they did a coup with General Soeharto, a known anti communist.
"We will know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." [CIA Director William Casey, 1981]
I read the book when it came out. It was a terrifying read, because I fear that it’s going to begin to happen in the US in the near future.
It already happened. Look at the natives.
@@borisnegrarosa9113 lol.
We must protect the precious commie scum who never commit genocide.
You know what they say.. fascism is just colonialism coming home to roost. Unfortunately, in the case of the US, colonialism is a tourist - it has been roosting there even before the ink on the constitution had time to dry out.
The counter insurgency model has already started on US soil.
Love your content Abby the truth must be told
I read this book years ago and it changed my world view. Every few months I check up with Vincent to see if he's finished anything else. Thanks for this interview
Would you explain how it changed your view of the world ?
@@bernhardtrian7471 had a similar effect myself with the realisation that during the cold war, millions of leftists, trade unionists, workers groups, student activists, womens rights activists (all types of groups and people associated with and/or accused of association with communists) etc were murdered around the world/global south and the negative effect this has had in the last 70 years within all these countries and the wider effect its had around the globe
The book was released during the pandemic, man
@@wenderis 2021 is technically 2 years ago and 2 years is enough years to be considered "years" so could be right actually despite the odd use of the phrase.
It was first published May 19, 2020, so really 3 yrs ago. I think that was hardcover, and then there were paperback, and other language releases.
We missed you, Abby. Thank you so much for this podcast.
Thank you so much for bringing this forward right now. It couldn't be more relevant. I've been trying to get everyone I know to read The Jakarta Method ever since I read it. It's an absolutely necessary read.
Absolutely shocking but I shouldn’t be surprised anymore
_"Our fear that communism might someday take over most of the world blinds us to the fact that anti-communism already has."_ - Anonymous Intelligence Officials/Michael Parenti
Still doing this today. Venezuela.. Pakistan.. Lebanon.. Iraq just a few examples
Don’t forget Ukraine.
@@danzigvssartre and of course, PALESTINE
This kind of story explains very clearly the spirit of the founding fathers of Indonesia, why they did not want to have diplomatic relations with Israel. So that it widened to the sentiment of banning the Israeli soccer team from playing/competing in Indonesian territory.
But at the same time, the situation has changed, making the spirit of Indonesian anti-colonialism must undergo a transformation, because the form of colonization itself has changed from territorial colonization to economic colonization within the framework of global trade.
What a great documentary!!
Indonesia avoid Israeli football team on 1957 because they didn't want to lose the supports from Arab countries for West Papuan campaign in UN General Assembly, not 100% about Palestine sentiments.
The banning of Israeli team recently is non sense and stupid decision by politicians.
What a tremendously informative interview! I think it's interesting to note that Obama's mother, Stanley, was married to one of the Indonesian officers who helped to foment the coup while she was working for a cut out of the USAID, which is the leading edge of CIA regime change efforts. I suspect that it was at the early age of nine that the CIA began to groom Barack for higher office. In his early 20s he turned up with a CIA operation in Afghanistan and his first job was working for a company that was a CIA cover out of New York. So, not only has the CIA killed presidents but might have created them as well. The U.S. will never be a democracy until it disbands this terrorist organization.
How do you know about the Obama connection? Is there documents?
"I suspect that it was at the early age of nine that the CIA began to groom Barack for higher office." Your silly old, racist obsession with Obama is tedious at best. It is gratifying to know that no one will pay attention to you.
The CIA is not a gestalt intelligence. There are people behind it.
I thought Obama Mama married to Kenyan? Or was she pimped around by the people using CIA?
I often ask about his mom and cia connections. Was he born in a hospital for cia staff that now no longer exists in Hawaii? So much for thinking of her as a do gooder
Abby Martin is the journalist I wish I can turn on the TV & see her type on the regular, never fails us, exposing the horrors “snowflakes” & our government would love to shut down
Me too but it will never happen. Corporate tv is merely propaganda. I only turn mine on to watch football games.
pretty sure the "snowflakes" are not against exposing any of the things Abby exposes. at all.
In a NON BIZARRO WORLD Abby would be hosting MEET THE PRESS.
@@bb-wb8sb “snowflakes” in its traditional meaning refers to men that are so obsessed with toxic masculinity that they become monsters.. so maybe that’s what they meant?
"Braking the set"
Many thanks, Abby, for another important interview. Essential information for any thinking American. Share, people.
I am Indonesian, the bloody events of the G30S/PKI in 1965 are still a controversial matter in Indonesia to this day. This is a dark history for us. Thanks to Abby Martin & Vincent Bevins for the information in this interview. 🙏
yajuj majuj.. there is no sphere of influence more dangerous than communism.. they got no religion.3 abrahamic should stand together.. the communist extreminate all your royalty,no? till you got no king at all.. perhaps you can argue about being a republic,therefore a president is liken to king.. that is a sign.. once the hereditary lineage is exterminated,it spread like wildfire.. haven't you read the bird conference.. there is no nation is without king.. even CCP has been spread their influence to africa,middle-east.. do not get into their trick of disinformation.. these is the end.. either choose side or join them.
Terima kasih banyak, Jeremy & Abby!
Rock on, Comrades!
The book by Vincent Bevins is a must read, for everyone. The two people in the interview both make a great contribution to uncovering the truth. Thanks for that.
Thank you Abby and Empire Files wonderful team of conscientious human beings. An hour of your work is worth a year of legacy media’s output.
A incredibly important interview and on the money when it comes to the cia, which has turned evil into a corporate ethos that stifles any alternative vision of the future other than what serves neoliberal, and essentially racist global agendas.
It would be great if similar conference can be made now. The topic: usa crimes against humanity. Usa was proclaimed guilty of genocide and war crimes in Vietnam by the Russell's Court... I hope similar court can be organised agan. In Europe. Thank you Abby and Mike for your honesty and humanity ✊💪
Real journalist.
Thank you for bringing this to the public's attention. Great work!
Saya lahir tahun 1970 an. Ingin bertanya kepada warga Indonesia yang pernah menjadi korban CIA ini di Sumatra barat.
Mungkin kah CIA ini yg membunuh semua Sultan Melayu di Sumatera...?
Persoalan nya...adakah Indonesia akan membuat tindak balas terhadap kejahatan CIA ini di platform antarabangsa?
Siapa yang mau balas? orang indonesia saja kbanyakan masih mngatakan g30s ulah nya sukarno, gk mikir beliau saja termasuk korban, doktrin tersebut itu berhasil sampai sekarang untuk menuduh org lain dgn meneriaki PKI anti agama iblis dll bhkan untuk menyerang pemrintah, padahal awal nya itu doktrin barat untuk membuat kacau indonesia, jadi kasus tragedi PKI dari dulu itu kemungkinan besar sejak awal2 kemerdekaan indonesia itu politik devite at impera atau politik adu domba pihak barat dgn menggandeng org lokal yg pro sma mereka dgn iming2 uang atau jabatan jika berhasil, sukarno org yg smpai sekarang di tuduh PKI oleh org indonesia sendiri terutama org yg kemakan isu politik barat melalui org indonesia yg pro dgn mereka, ,dan yg masih percaya itu byk sekali sampai detik ini, di sini artinya benar bhwa kbanyakan org indonesia masih bodoh alias SDM nya lemah krna sgt mudah sekali di bohongi, padahal udah di gembar gemborin klo g30s itu politik CIA pun gak paham2,jadi kematian para2 jenderal2 itu kemungkinan ada kaitannya jg krna dlm tragedi g30s yg membantai para jenderal itu sesama militer lalu di tuduhkan ke PKI, sedangkan PKI ini tdk bersenjata krna sebetul nya PKI ini adalah sebuah partai, jd logikanya PKI ini di susupi org non PKI untuk bikin kekacauan setelah itu kejadian tersebut di tuduhkan ke PKI agar menjadi tersangka,krna org indo dulu masih byk sekali yg bodoh buta huruf dsb otomatis pd percaya bhkan sampai sekarang, aslinya PKI itu biasa saja umumnya partai politik klo gak ada g30s PKI ini akan hilang sendiri seiring berjalan waktu sesuai jaman atau stelah cold war berakhir krna indonesia ini non blok kaya di turky,palestina,UAE,arab dll komunis di sna tanpa ada korban pembantaian dan hilang sendiri stelah perang dingin berakhir.
@@imano9610 Satu"nya cara yg bisa kita lakukan yah dengan mengingat dan menjadi lebih vokal mengenai kasus ini
Maksud anda di Sumatera Timur? Sumatera Barat hanya ada bekas kesultanan Pagar Ruyung. Itu pun dah tak ada lagi semenjak masuk masa Kemerdekaan.
Sudah pasti lah bro, keseluruhan pasukan Rebel yg bawa2 PKI itu adalah bentukan CIA Dengan membawa nama komunis spy mrk bs nunjukin betapa jahatnya komunis, dan begitu operasi mereka berhasil mengkudeta Soekarno dan seluruh pemimpin daerah yg GK sejalan SM mrk (atau GK sejalan SM kepentingan CIA) maka akan dibunuh, dan pembantai sultan sumatera itu termasuk jg
@@imano9610nah ini mantep penjelasan ny, bolehlah bre numpang ambil quote penjelasan ente buat debat SM orang2 ignorant 👍
As an Indonesian,i can't thanks enough for this
Knowing that we are the last generation that able to speak with the generation of people who lives on this event yet they are still silence trough this day
Hope that someday in the future the truth will emerge
May god bless you and everyone of your team
Well done! - Very listenable and informative discussion by two knowledgeable people.
Definitely, Abby, your work is colossal as an investigative journalist. These files that you show us now with CIA Stories, are a true informative jewel and the result of impeccable and tenacious work like yours. Thanks Abby, for ever.🌹
Outstanding Journalism! A thorough, distinguished and elaborate interview; keep up the good work.
OH MY GOD !!! AS AN INDONESIAN I AM HORRIFIED BY THE FACT THAT THE CIA/US CAUSED THIS DARKEST PART STORY OF MY COUNTRY!
They caused the darkest period of every country.
I read the book. Eye opening, although I already knew the story of Indonesia, but new for me was the connection with Latin America. By the way: the communist party of Indonesia was very peaceful, they refused to arm themselves. And maybe even between 2 to 3 million people were murdered. Many of them didn't even know what communism meant.
Communist party were defending farmers and since a lot of Indonesians at that time were farmers, lot of them supported communist party. My dad told me, during the massacre, military and semi-military groups, they came door to door to people's houses searching communist related stuff whether its flag, poster, book or anything. If you were caught having one, they would arrest you and later executed you without trials. It was scary time.
Kejawen also called Communism😤
Islam Pantek!!!!
Japan’s attendance at the Bandung Conference always strikes me as a strange thing since it had occupied several of the other attending countries a decade previous. Must have been pretty awkward for everyone involved.
Germany joined NATO after 10 years. seems like the norm
@@phileas007 quite a different power dynamic; Bandung was primarily a meeting of the formerly colonized peoples of the world, with a very recent colonizer in attendance (just there, but not really playing a key role). Additionally, Japan was at that point just emerging from direct occupation by the US, had been fully integrated into the Western capitalist system, and was (and still is) hosting a huge number of US military personnel (who had just destroyed most of the Korean peninsula), so was likely also perceived as a US proxy. (I concede that one could argue that in some cases the Japanese occupation did further independence movements against Western powers, as Hatta and Sukarno played prominent roles as nationalist leaders under the Japanese occupation, and many Japanese soldiers stayed behind to fight the Dutch after the conclusion of WWII.) NATO was comprised of relatively power-balanced countries that had been at war with each other off and on for centuries, coming together to counteract the perceived threat of the Soviets, with reconstituted Nazis playing a key role in its command structure. In most of the Bandung attendee countries, the elites and the left had temporarily put aside their differences under the banner of nationalism to counteract imperialism. However in most of the NATO countries, the capitalist class had either tacitly or explicitly supported the Nazis up until the point they started invading their neighbors, and had collaborated in many of the occupied countries, such as in Vichy government of France and and the Bandera contingent in Ukraine, while the left (especially communists) had gathered prestige as antifascist partisans, and would be targeted by the governments of the NATO countries in the post-war era, by working through fascist intelligence networks like the Gehlen organization.
@@laotree8224 true
@@laotree8224 To be fair, Japan had supported Indonesia's independent movement prior to the Germany's surrender and Hiroshima bombing, by actively involved in the formation of BPUPKI (Indonesia's independence preparation observing body) on March 1st of 1945.
Jack Tiscione here: I remember those times in the mid 60s. I was 16 years old and was reading a friends book "Russia at War" about the millions killed and saw fillms on the Cultural Revolution with tens of millions killed and as a kid read about Suharto and thought JUST a million were being killed. At that age I believed those millions of deaths were something that could "never happen here"...Well...the way things are going it really MAY happen here...and soon
Abby Martin is one of the best journalists of our time. I don't always agree with her, but I cannot deny her intellect and wisdom.
Abby Martin ❤️
Abby is our sister in Justice.
Keep fighting homegirl.
The Bilderburg group was founded as a response to the 1955 Bandung conference. And the Dutch, the CIA and people like Josef Retinger founded the Bilderburg right afterwards.
Retinger and the US also laid the foundation for the European Union to secure US and European economic prosperity.
Surkano's ability to unite Asia and Africa really spooked them.
I bought the book! Untold story!
Great book, can’t recommend it enough!
As he says, there is almost no need for anything covert when there is no accountability or consequences. Indeed, why even bother classifying documents?
Anti-Nasser, Anti-Sukarno funding and organizing... Leading to serious blowback which we deal with to this day.
Indonesia was a great victory for the Western block.....Dominant communist forces in a country many times bigger than Vietnam is exterminated without losing the life of a single western soldier. But it is often forgotten and today, Indonesians themselves are often blamed for the whole thing.
itu karena Islam di 🇮🇩 tidak menyukai atheis, makanya mereka membantai komunis, sedang Konghucu di 🇻🇳 tidak mempermasalahkan atheis komunis di negara mereka.
@@rosecastilia6963 Itu karena komunis yang tidak menyukai agama...didahului dengan pembantaian para ulama di 1948....kemudian disaat komunis kembali dominan, mulai menyerang pesantren seperti di Kanigoro di tahun 1965. Andai TNI-AD berhasil dikuasai PKI setelah peristiwa G30S, sudah pasti akan diikuti dengan pembantaian para ulama dan santri
This should be mandatory education for all US students. The ignorance of the population perpetuates the problem
Love seeing a new drop from Abby & crew. I'll always respect the courage it took to question the events that launched us into the war of terror.
More! More! More! More! More!
Thnx for sharing. Wow jst wow!
The number of Indonesian (in a few scrolls of the comments) is dangerously low. It shows how we (Indonesian) either don't understand the history or lack interest in it. It's almost as if we're trying to forget about it. For a person in ground zero, I can assure you the idea that CIA was behind the gestapu (Gerakan September tiga puluh or literally September 30th movement, which clearly uses American date format) is bonkers. I think only a handful of elites knew about this and either decided that the general crowds don't need to know or know the masses aren't interested.
It's because most of us even didn't know about this, don't want research this, and think what written in the book is beliavable, even for youngster. The International grade school won't focus bout this, the top tier grade school still more focusing about how their student passed university exam, and middle to lower tier just chilling bout this and think at least we teach the basic. I mean most countries done this except several countries that think they have rich history. Ironic
We indonesia are aware of this...those politics shits in the 65 was a nightmare and we the people hate to choose being communist country rather then lean to the capitalist US. Our parents in 65 sought it was enough communism bullshit with murder and terror, so they become anti communist. Just merely for the shake of peace after 65 eras...who want to be next vietnam ? Thank god we were not become khmer cambodia ..
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You occasionally hear progressives in the US say, "There's more of us than there are of them," referring to the Republicans/Libertarians/right-wingers, which is statistically true and why the US right has in recent years resorted to election interference and vote suppression, but the fact that there were also more progressives, including communists, in Indonesia in 1964 yet the right still managed to prevail via outright slaughter of a huge proportion of the public who were progressives shows even today that it doesn't really matter if there are more progressives than right-wingers. The right operates via force and violence, not via recognition of popular will or of truth, and they could do something very similar in the US.
To me Anti Comunism just means Pro Corruption. You will sell out your population and allow our capitalist system to pick over your resources without regard for your domestic population or you are an enemy of the United States and the West.
The movement that knows it has no moral compass comes to the conclusion faster that they must employ brutal mass violence to win.
Yeah, USSR, China, Pol Pot, commies are no different, IMO.
Great interview. Appreciate your work Abby
Thank you Abby and Mike.
Very good video thank you. Never too be seen on western media.. BBC. CNN.. ect
I miss your work. Happy to see it.
Extremely good video, Abby and Mike!! The C.I.A. swine also killed the Prime Minister of Sweden, Olof Palme, because they saw him as a Communist for supporting the Vietnamese people's struggle against U.S. imperialism (he was really an anti-Communist not that that matters in the slightest). They used a white South African nicknamed Greenboots, who had been carrying out atrocities against black South Africans and Namibians during Apartheid and the War in Namibia, a war in which the Namibians had only emerged victorious against the imperialist Apartheid regime in South Africa thanks to the selfless intervention of Fidel and the Cuban people.
This pattern of the U.S. and the C.I.A. working in tandem with their buddies in Apartheid South Africa and equally Apartheid Israel was also present in other cases. I'm not sure whether the agency was aware of when the Israelis with the aiding and abetting of the South Africans planted the bomb on the flight from Jo-burg which detonated over Lockerbie in Scotland, but it would stand to reason that they did. The U.S. certainly made sure that the propaganda campaign which painted the Livyans under Khadaffi as the perpetrators got underway. The Libyans agreed to taking the blame at a time when it seemed that the West would welcome the Khadaffi government with open arms, because they were the only ones with any tangible intelligence on Al Qaida, another organisation which the C.I.A. created. The real reason for the bombing was that a Swedish diplomat was carrying a briefcase with a comprehensive and agreed upon solution to the Namibia conflict (I remembered incorrectly previously but this is correct).
Wow! I don't believe I've ever heard that. Is there a link I could use to research this further?
A lot of the regimes supported by Castro and the Soviet Union were as bad as, if not worse than the regimes that US created. On balance I would say that today it's substantially better to be in the camp of countries that the US colonised than the camp that the Soviet Union and Castro colonised although why the Hell both sides couldn't have left the rest of the world alone, especially in places that affected neither of their territories, is beyond me.
Uganda, Guinea Bissau, Angola are all countries I have insights into - and the same nonsensical, paranoid stuff happened there under the communist regimes - mass killings etc. The extreme centralisation of power that is inherent to all communist governments only made corruption endemic and to this day Angola for instance is still essentially a communist country.
I've lived under the shadow of these kind of events all my life. One of my ealiest political experiences was hearing Chilean exiles talking about what happened to them and people they knew there, so I was always aware that people with our kind of politics faced the risk of death at the whim of US policy when we get successful, when we win elections, or show the promise of winning elections. And the same from South African exiles who managed to get out of the country either shortly before or after the Liliesleaf Farm arrests and the Rivonia Trial that ensued. You always have to assume US foul play whenever someone like Jeremy Corbyn gets on the ballot, that there will be a plot against the movement from day 1 that will try to topple such a government if it wins office, or as in our case, makes sure we don't first.
I agree. Where you from
Brilliant history lesson on the horrors of American Intelligence Agencies, which is still running in current wars.
Excellent interview. A must watch for all who care about truth and justice. Abby gets more beautiful every time I see her...
The Truth Abbey Martin shares is like a breath of fresh air!!!! 😍
52:33 the civilians not killed were hostages to ensure compliance by the families, the ones killed were likely the ones they could not expect compliance from, or were too dangerous to them.
Indonesia, Venezuela, Guatemala, Chile...they knew what they were doing.
abby is a role model woman
Thx for this interview ❤
Your work is critical! Thank you !
Empire files does a great job at fixing post history written by the victors.
This is an amazing interview, gonna get my family to watch this
Nice set, ty 4 that
Amazing interview! Love it.
I am intrigued by stories about the work of Stanley Ann Dunham (mother of Obama) in Indonesia relating to the naming of left wing activists and Chinese communists. What is the validity of the claims that her parents were Company people and that Obama himself had deep ties to the security state?
Great interview, very important book. Thank you, Empire Files.
Excellent work. Super stoked to get the book
riveting. thank you!
excellent work. amazing investigation
Great interview, thanks for sharing
Yesss go off!!!
Great video!
The Chronology of US Agression is sobering and shameful.
Amazing interview.
Thank you very much, Abby and Vincent, for bringing up this extremely important topic.
Hey, Abby, why not more videos?. Your videos are excellent.
Amazing interview... Thanks Abby Martin and the whole Empire Files team. Comradely love to all. The people will win! ❤
Excellent interview. Empire files is a resource for information that has been and continues to be suppressed.
Very informative. I enjoyed watching this very much.
Good to hear you. Keep up the good work. ❤️❤️❤️
kudos to your work !!
A high school teacher, who otherwise was totally awful, at the same time bestowed onto us a few great sayings, one being: 'Always be nice to the people you meet on the way up, because they are the same people you will meet on the way down.'
Great show! I knew this story, but not at this level of detail. Thanks.✌😊
Why was Obama's mother in Indonesia at the time of the massacres?
Her dad was a spook: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham
@@Omaviistheman her employment at USAID would suggest that she herself was as well