The $399 Ryzen-Powered Dual 2.5Gb NAS - AOOSTAR NAS + ROUTER Review

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 222

  • @CaffeinatedOpe
    @CaffeinatedOpe Рік тому +90

    who needs a trash can when you've got a space toaster to store your files

    • @spoonikle
      @spoonikle Рік тому +5

      Space toaster is a great name for it 😂

  • @mitchelleppich
    @mitchelleppich Рік тому +80

    I bought one of these a few months ago. It's currently kitted out with 2x12TB hard drives, 2x2TB nvme ssds, 64GB of ram, and a 500GB external ssd for boot. It's currently running proxmox and its been amazing.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +18

      So much potential for setups like this. Great setup!

    • @mitchelleppich
      @mitchelleppich Рік тому +4

      Thank you@@CraftComputing

    • @ckthmpson
      @ckthmpson Рік тому +9

      I've been considering one of these for some time now as a way to reduce my server power costs. Wish they had a model with more drive bays to gain more functionality through the use of ZFS.

    • @Rakshasa84
      @Rakshasa84 Рік тому +1

      I'm genuinly curious, but isn't a two bay NAS just inadequate? My knowledge of NAS and RAID setups are antiquated but if you want to have redundancy aren't you stuck with losing out on 12 GB to backup the first drive in this setup?

    • @dotcaodin
      @dotcaodin Рік тому

      What NAS software do you use?

  • @FaithyJo
    @FaithyJo Рік тому +13

    "Not everyone is going to need all of the features available here..."
    Yeah but since when have we ever really needed any of our homelab equipment?

  • @seantellsit1431
    @seantellsit1431 Рік тому +17

    WOW. This is a killer deal. 2 bas NAS plus 2 NVnme slots. Thanks for the find! As for the Power brick... even MOST mini pcs, and all with this specific CPU use power bricks.

  • @paulbrooks4395
    @paulbrooks4395 Рік тому +13

    Surprisingly good price, feature set, build, and upgradability. Those four attributes are really rare in 2023 in terms of value-to-feature ratio.

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +5

    3:53 Woot Woot! dual NVME slots! perfect for RAIDing all the things!

  • @ChrisDerichs
    @ChrisDerichs Рік тому +5

    Bought one of these after watching the video. I needed a box to put a pair of hard drives in. I seems pretty nice so far except I tried Fedora out with it. I was getting SATA link errors under load (RAID 1 resync) that resulted in constant link resets plus reducing the speed to the lowest. I tried out RHEL and then Rocky and I didn't have the problem with those two but then the wifi didn't work because the driver required is only in the newer kernel. Finally with Rocky + kernel-ml I got wifi working and no sata link errors. Haven't had a chance to dig into this much more but I did swap the drives and the problem followed the slot and not the drive. Otherwise, this seems like it's going to make a great replacement home server for me.

    • @bluesangel75
      @bluesangel75 10 місяців тому

      What about sleep mode ?

    • @musicaldev5644
      @musicaldev5644 19 днів тому

      Funny enough wifi works on Debian

    • @ChrisDerichs
      @ChrisDerichs 19 днів тому

      @@musicaldev5644 Which version of Debian?

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims Рік тому +3

    Thank you 👍 for bringing my attention to alternative brands and their solutions to my attention.
    Excellent video on the AOOstar NAS.

  • @Timer5Tim
    @Timer5Tim Рік тому +7

    You should test out it as a hosting box like throw proxmox on it and see how it does virtualizing both true Nas and PF/OPNsense it looks like it would be perfect for that

  • @mattm8140
    @mattm8140 Рік тому +1

    I've had this in my cart for a few weeks when I saw it browsing Amazon for small nas options. Thanks for doing the review!

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому +1

      The buyer informed me that this machine has been confirmed to be discontinued and will soon be out of stock.

  • @Phelper99
    @Phelper99 Рік тому +1

    I'm sill running a rack mount server, with virtualized firewall, file sharing, home automation. This seems like a good alternative. And then use the rack mount for once-per-week backups.

  • @RubyRoks
    @RubyRoks Рік тому +4

    This NAS is legitimately more powerful than my brother's gaming PC. That's what happens when you don't upgrade for 11 years.

  • @davidg5898
    @davidg5898 Рік тому +7

    Have you seen the upcoming Jonsbo N3 ITX case? (Starts shipping in October.)
    It looks like something you'd be into, similar to the 8-bay NAS you built a few videos ago. The MB section of the case looks tall enough that you wouldn't have to rely on right-angle SATA cables just to close the thing.

  • @shawnhendricks7806
    @shawnhendricks7806 11 місяців тому +1

    This would be a great camera NVR. With 2 network ports, you could have once physical network for the cameras and the other port plugged into your regular network. With 2 drives you could do redundant or maximum storage. Thanks Jeff.

  • @davecool42
    @davecool42 Рік тому +1

    Re the comparison with the trashcan on geekbench scores… it’s incredible how far we’ve come in ten years. What was the professional high end is now available on a new system for just a few hundred bucks. Hope that continues ten years from now.

  • @mikebroom1866
    @mikebroom1866 Рік тому +2

    If there was a shield OS competitor, that would be a bitchin standalone box.

  • @zito88
    @zito88 Рік тому +4

    Yeah $400 is a good price for something like this with a lot of features and a well designed machine!
    Normally when you see little NASs like this, it's poorly designed with a major bottleneck somewhere in the system and it's like $800 for no reason.

  • @marcandruu
    @marcandruu 9 місяців тому +1

    I wish you hadn't skipped over installing the drives, I'm struggling to get all 4 yellow screws in

  • @ChrisRider
    @ChrisRider Рік тому +1

    This would be a killer retro game device. I am going to put this into my wish list. It could store all of the files and be able to play the majority. The price on it is pretty good too.
    I also appreciate the comparison to the trash can. Like you said, my homelab has a lot of old equipment in it - always interesting to see how they compare to modern hardware.

  • @StevenDLeary
    @StevenDLeary Рік тому +5

    Silly question... it's a NAS. Did you test TrueNAS? Could this be a node in a distributed family storage and backup plan?

  • @rabidwallaby84
    @rabidwallaby84 Рік тому +1

    I'd say it looks more like a Fibre-Optic Modem/Router combo, like you see with ISPs. That said, I want one! It would be perfect for my minimal homelab/NAS needs!!

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys Рік тому +1

    With the dual NVME and 6 cores, if its quiet enough this could be a great little Ableton/Studio PC, even some video editing

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul 9 місяців тому +1

    This world be great if it had:
    - fan pwm
    - a bunch of ssd m.2 slots to make it into an ssd nas - ideally, of there's sufficient lanes, not the slowest ones.
    If it had at least three it would be great - one for a small boot ssd + 2 for a mirror ssd setup for relatively fast storage. I guess one could use 2.5" ssds instead of 3.5" - if the drive sleds have mounting option for that
    - at least 5gb network ports
    - sd card reader would make it good for photographers unlike the microsd
    I don't see this a good option for hdds. Mirroring large drives is way too expensive.
    On a sidenote: does it support ecc ram?

  • @ankorot
    @ankorot 4 дні тому

    Power consumption: out of the wall:
    config = 2x 32GB RAM, 2x NVME, 1x HDD, brand new Windows, no VMs
    idle = 10.5 W
    Fan at the bottom:
    standard fan has 2 wires and cannot change speed (while motherboard has 4 pin in the connector).
    i've replaced fan with Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM and it fts and works perfectly, changes speed as it should.

  • @themomorain
    @themomorain 9 місяців тому +1

    Sooo this could actually be a genius idea! Imagine router, nas and smart home hub all in one! Would be awesome for power consumption maybe this thing with a zigbee stick is all I would need🤔

  • @misterjeffa2128
    @misterjeffa2128 Рік тому

    oh yeah i was looking into getting one (or something fairly similar). nice to see there is a review of the 5500u model now.

  • @musicaldev5644
    @musicaldev5644 19 днів тому

    This machine is awesome. I bought it for NAS. Ended up hosting a lot of apps and envs way beyond data. I hope more chinese manufacturers invest in the space.

  • @undertone2472
    @undertone2472 Рік тому +3

    This looks like an awesome NAS/Server. I just built one with a Ryzen 9 3900x in a Fractal Node 304 and to be honest for my use this would have been better.

    • @PrimalNaCl
      @PrimalNaCl Рік тому +1

      But at least now you have the option for actual NAS/server utility wrt to IO. If the AOOSTAR had even 1 x8 pcie slot for an hba it'd be a contender. As-is, it's more in between a roided out Raspberry Pi and a Zimaboard or, now blade. And from the 'at least a full sized pcie slot' pov there's argument that the Zima's are better. Granted, with some 'franken-adapter-fu one or both of those m.2 nvme slots could be extended and adapted to full-sized (x4 electrical) slots. /shrug on pro/con wrt the added 'eye-sore/mess' that would result in on which is the superior effort.
      The core areas for NAS/server are IO {in,e}gress specifically (network), storage (preferably via hbas), memory capacity and cpu cores for virtualization purposes. Unlikely to ever be a thing but here's the dream:
      0) cut down Epyc or scaled up Ryzen mobile such that it's >=16 cores, support for >= 1TB RAM (w/support for ECC), and >= 48pcie (gen4) lanes.
      1) dual qsfp28 100Gbe ports (e.g. intel E810). Could be just another x16 slot but having it embedded allows smaller formfactor/case.
      2) full-sized pcie slots (2 x16 and 4 x8) w/jumper/bios configuration to mix/match based on remaining (from 48 min) 32 pcie lanes.
      Probably too much for 100W USB-C, maybe pro/con that with dual type C for power vs larger brick-like typical 330W gaming laptop types or Eurocom 780W in the same/similar formfactor.
      From here you could do everything you could want and it could easily fit into something the size of that case. Plenty of RAM, decently capable cores/threads cpu, no real compromise on the IO expansion, and zero issues wrt this epidemic of gimped embedded nics; >= dual >= 10Gbe or GFY.

    • @kahnzo
      @kahnzo Рік тому +1

      ​@@PrimalNaClcurious about the idle power draw of your home server NAS

    • @PrimalNaCl
      @PrimalNaCl Рік тому

      @@kahnzo Right around 800W-ish. The bulk of which would be the 827TB (usable) of 'spinning rust' hanging off the thing. The drives likely represent a little under half (using 2.8W/drive idle) of the total.
      The system I outlined would, even w/the HBAs, including the superior NIC, would be less than the other 450W-500W-ish.
      Why do you ask?

  • @alfblack2
    @alfblack2 Рік тому +1

    OH! I been dreaming of such a device. awsome.

  • @randallsmith2521
    @randallsmith2521 Рік тому +1

    This may be on my shortlist for systems for my homelab.
    With that being said, I didn't think Mac Pro. This looks so close to the Arris BGW320 Broadband Gateway that AT&T is using in their new fiber installs (I have one in my closet). I can see the comparison to the Mac Pro though 😁

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ Рік тому +1

    It would be nice to show this running as a two-bay NAS, running Trunas.

  • @justinknash
    @justinknash Рік тому

    I’ve been looking for a 2 bay 3.5” compact system to run TrueNAS Core for the last couple of months and this looks like a PERFECT fit. Thanks so much for the review. Not seeing the $50 off promo on Amazon applying though.

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому

      Hurry up and make your purchase now! This machine is already confirmed to be discontinued. As for why there isn't a $50 coupon available, it's because this link is out of stock in the United States. You can reach out to the seller, who will provide you with an alternative purchase link along with a $50 coupon. Additionally, please be advised that there are currently only 20 units of this machine left in stock.

  • @gtvwill
    @gtvwill Рік тому

    hell yeah I've been wanting someone to get one of these they look great!!

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +1

    FINALLY a mini PC for the home lab people

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Рік тому +1

    I know these NAS OSs dont really take advantage of them yet, but imagine once ROCm is supported and we can get iGPU transcoding, that a 7640u based NAS could do AV1, and possibly use the NPU for things like motion and object recognition for security cameras.
    Right now i'm probably going to pick one of these up for my sister's house, to both work as her NAS and an offsite for my NAS. I just wish it was 3 bay, or maybe 6x2.5. Yes SSDs would be much more expensive, but it would be worth it to have worry free off site managed by someone who is far less technical.
    For reference, i currently have a windows box for recording broadcast TV, and my file server does playback, but so far almost all host OSs other than windows only natively supports Intel QSV, yes i am able to get AMD transcoding to work with a ROCm package, but this is a NAS, i dont want to make any modifications to it, especially if i am going to leave it at someone's house who cant service it.
    However, my old main NAS is more than powerful enough to transcode with CPU using the Ryzen 5 4640GE, it just used quite a bit of power to do so, and lacked enough power to transcode for more than 2 TVs

  • @RollerCoasterLineProductions

    That is slick. Might buy one and run unraid on it as a backup. You’ve gotta do some more videos on that

  • @firisrozley5768
    @firisrozley5768 Рік тому +1

    Seems like a decent emulation machine (up till PS2/GC) that multiple the functions as NAS & router. I can store thousands of retro game ROMs with this device.

  • @grumpyratt2163
    @grumpyratt2163 Рік тому

    I came here for the beer recommendation but ended up learning some tech shit 😊

  • @kenttsang
    @kenttsang Рік тому +1

    I just got this days ago and still playing around how I gonna use it, hope you will have another video of your choose to OS/VM combinations and performance test result 🫡🥰

  • @jarman365
    @jarman365 9 днів тому

    I'm not sure if they recently updated this hardware but it is now able to be powered by USB C (100w)

  • @borandiUK
    @borandiUK Рік тому

    Tropical citrus beers, yes.
    Was expecting NAS/router benchmarks though?

  • @tommsla123
    @tommsla123 Рік тому

    This is the best NAS that i'm waiting for. Thanks Jeff

  • @buildfrom
    @buildfrom Рік тому

    Definitely interested to know how you get on with Proxmox installed and several Virtual Machines. Also would be intrigued to know how this gets on with OMV installed.

  • @MrMoralHazard
    @MrMoralHazard Рік тому +1

    I'm still baffled, none of the mini PC vendors came up with something Ryzen based that can handle more 6 disks or more

  • @Jellman86
    @Jellman86 Рік тому +1

    I honestly wish you could get this in the UK, unfortunately no matter where I look I cant find one available. Anyone seen any in the UK?

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp 10 місяців тому

      Currently only available on their website

  • @MillisecondFalcon
    @MillisecondFalcon Рік тому +1

    Hey Jeff, how is Craft Studios 3.0 coming along? It'd be great to hear an update about your progress! 🙂

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +6

      As soon as I get the permit approved I'll be doing an update. #soon

    • @MillisecondFalcon
      @MillisecondFalcon Рік тому

      @@CraftComputing Oh ok, cool. Best of luck with it! 🙂

  • @elmestguzman3038
    @elmestguzman3038 Рік тому +1

    That is a awesome little NAS.... did it come with any AOOSTAR software to manage the NAS?

  • @_Turbocat777
    @_Turbocat777 Рік тому +1

    This looks pretty awesome, The fact it has a 512gb m.2 and 2x8gb sticks of ram included in the price (currently a $50 coupon) it's an insane deal
    I went the intel 5105 nas board and N1 case to have more bays but if I wasn't into this build for so much already and didn't want more bay expansion i'd def give this a debate.

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak Рік тому

    Not sure USB PD as the primary charger would be the best bet for that system if it was fully loaded with a pair of 3.5" drives and a pair of M.2's. It *shouldn't* be enough to max out a 65W brick, but power on draw is still a thing and for a 3.5" drive that's still around 20-25Watts. Just the HDD's and CPU will pull 65watts, ignoring the rest of the system I would not be comfortable with that lack of headroom, even if the system will be running most of the time.
    90W type C power adapters are readily available, but I think it would jack the price up.
    That said, this does seem like a nice expandable unit with good performance.
    Only thing I'd like to see would be either a 3rd 3.5" bay for something more than RAID 0/1, OR a model with a backplane for four 2.5" drives so one could build an all SSD NAS.
    That delivery time from Amazon is... wow. (Late November 2024 as of Sep 26th 2023.)

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому +1

      Due to the machine being out of stock and their decision to discontinue its production, they will no longer restock this machine through this link. However, they have another link available.

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 Рік тому +1

    Amazing but does it come in black??

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag888 Рік тому +3

    I want to know how much power it draws at idle with 2x 3.5" HDDs and how much under moderate load

    • @excite6501
      @excite6501 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah me too. But sadly the reviewer lives in a cheap energy country so he dont care about this important information.

  • @ankorot
    @ankorot 13 днів тому

    About type-c that "does but allow power input" : it is not true. Mine works via type-c hub only (no other cords are attached). The hub has power, hdmi and keyboard connected
    it turns off once power consumption reaches 35 W (probably, it is because of my power source)

  • @JamesWoodOfficial
    @JamesWoodOfficial Рік тому

    Engraved coaster artwork idea: an LGA2011 socket with a bent pin. Mmmmmmm!

  • @ShaneBro
    @ShaneBro Рік тому +2

    So, does it virtualize, does it run Proxomox, does it run Freenas? Can you boot a linux distro?

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith Рік тому

    This thing could only be better if it had a quad 2.5" version. Patriot Burst SSDs are cheap, and striped with a RAM cache to give them a boost, they're actually shockingly quick for cache-less SATA SSDs. I'd happily pay an extra $50 for that benefit. ~5.5tb of smart, redundant flash storage in a NAS with a fair bit of it's own grunt for ~$650 would be a steal of a deal. (Edit: I stand corrected, the price of Patriot Bursts went up by $25/drive, to $75/drive, making it less Price to Performance efficient than just a pair of 4tb WD Red Pros).

  • @brentgreeff1115
    @brentgreeff1115 Рік тому +2

    I hate USB-C power - its flimsy - and for this type of computer a sturdy barrel is way better.

    • @ScullyBrewing
      @ScullyBrewing Рік тому

      It would be good to have both as an option though. Its easier to replace a usb c power supply compared to a possibly proprietary barrell type

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому

      USB-C is no more flimsy than a barrel jack. It's why every

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 Рік тому +1

      @@CraftComputing - nonsense - they switch to it because it allows data and power on 1 cable. - Its incredibly easy to bend a USB-C contact, - a barrel is almost impossible. - I cant believe you are even saying that.

  • @mattb7406
    @mattb7406 Рік тому +1

    Use case? Nas with graphics?

  • @gish85
    @gish85 Рік тому +1

    It’s a good video, and an interesting device. I think it’s quite damaging to not bring up ECC support when talking about things that are supposed to be NAS or server solutions. You made direct comparisons with xeons that do have that.
    We need manufacturers to know that we want it, and it would often be trivial for them to add it to ryzen based solutions

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому

      Homelabs don't need ECC. Fite me.

    • @gish85
      @gish85 Рік тому

      @@CraftComputing are you really at post of the problem. I guess no servers need ecc then, that’s all a nas is

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +3

      I didn't say no servers need ECC. I said homelabs don't sling enough data around for systems to randomly flip bits.
      Sure, ECC is recommended for ZFS, because TrueNAS provides support of billion-dollar businesses for data protection.
      The only time ECC comes into play is when data is in-flight, that is, between being told to write data to disk, and actually writing data to disk. It's while you see the progress bar in a copy dialogue window.
      Not having ECC isn't going to randomly corrupt data you're storing on your NAS. It's not going to corrupt your immutable OS partition. If the data is on disk, it's 100% secure (as far as memory is concerned).

  • @shiba7651
    @shiba7651 Рік тому +2

    But can it make toast?

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos Рік тому

    Good video Jeff !!

  • @dbaldock9
    @dbaldock9 Рік тому

    I'm watching this video on my main PC, which is currently a Xeon E5-2697 v2, running on my Asus X79 Deluxe motherboard. 😉 😀

    • @ckthmpson
      @ckthmpson 11 місяців тому +1

      How do you like that setup? I've been looking at some of those bundles on Aliexpress and considering building up a server based on the same. Biggest concern is power and heat with those Xeon CPU's.

    • @dbaldock9
      @dbaldock9 11 місяців тому

      @@ckthmpson - During the last month, I've installed a Xeon E5-2667 v2 (8c/16t ; 3.30GHz-base/4.00GHz-boost). It's got the same 130W TDP as my original Core i7-3930K (6c/12t ; 3.20GHz-base/3.80GHz-boost), which I used from early 2012, until last Fall, when I installed the E5-2697 v2 (12c/24t ; 2.70GHz-base/3.50GHz-boost). The E5-2667 v2, with its higher base clock speed, provides a more responsive workstation UI experience, when running Debian Linux 12. With the E5-2697 v2, my system would go into low-power sleep mode, and then after a keypress, wake up within 5 seconds - without any problems. But, the E5-2667 v2 won't wake up - no response from keyboard or trackball. So, until I figure out which settings to change, I have to either leave the PC running all the time, or shut it down each time I'm through using it.

  • @abroughear
    @abroughear 11 місяців тому

    These are really, really neat little machines, and the IT industry never misses a chance to shoot itself in the foot; it was therefore inevitable that they be discontinued and out of stock just a couple weeks after this review came out.

    • @TOMKO_
      @TOMKO_ 11 місяців тому

      Any chance new models are expected to come out? You'd think with demand there would be new supply...

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp 10 місяців тому +1

      Because they replaced the 5500U with the newly released R7 5700U (8C/16T, up to 4.3GHz), the price difference is only $10.

  • @themiln
    @themiln 2 місяці тому +1

    No ECC = No GO! I'd rather spend the coin and go entry level Xeon Silver! Will get ECC, Remote Management, Redundant PSU and more drive bays especially if you go 2.5 SFF. Very often if you go cheap you get cheap!

  • @Chris-yc3mm
    @Chris-yc3mm Рік тому

    Much prefer the barrel jack over usb3, imho

  • @Vedeyn
    @Vedeyn 6 місяців тому +1

    I recently purchased one of the N100 variants and it does accept power via USBC. I wonder if that is a difference between the Intel and AMD models.

    • @cigijelisia4251
      @cigijelisia4251 6 місяців тому +2

      In fact, both versions can be powered via USB-C

  • @DeNNiiiable
    @DeNNiiiable Рік тому +1

    Would be nice with every level desktop CPU and socketed to leave options for tinkerers. How good is shielding for HDD noise?

    • @RomanKovbasyuk
      @RomanKovbasyuk Місяць тому

      Not very good - it's a cheap plastic box.

  • @zairman
    @zairman Рік тому +4

    A router with Windows 11 preloaded. Yep, makes sense........

    • @dakiletsplay16
      @dakiletsplay16 Рік тому

      It's marketed as a 3 in 1
      Desktop - nas - router
      That's probably why

  • @Geardos1
    @Geardos1 Рік тому

    this seems like a good NAS / Virtualization box. It would replace several devices for me.

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 Рік тому

    Would be better if it had more sata ports (or better NVME slots). An interesting china kludge box.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +3

      That's totally possible, And all that would require is more money.

  • @dktol56
    @dktol56 Рік тому

    I agree that it would make a great DIY NAS, and, at the current discounted price, I would likely purchase it if Amazon would let me. For some unspecified reason, it can't be delivered to my address (in US). 😞

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому

      Try contacting the buyer and ask them to send you the machine by other means

  • @wolfman011000
    @wolfman011000 Рік тому

    Could you add 2 more sata drives with a M2 adapter in the second slot? there looks to be space for 2 more drives and iit should be easy 3D printing a cage for them!

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому

      If you added a SATA controller there, you wouldn't be able to install the hard drive caddy on that side.

    • @wolfman011000
      @wolfman011000 Рік тому

      @@CraftComputing Fair enough if amazon uk ever stock one i'll still pick one up to play with, designing and printing a new case that could sort the space issue or maybe add acouple of sata ssd with a M.2 sata card. Thanks for the review, this looks like a good fun bit of kit. Take care, God bless one and all.

  • @Oleg.G.
    @Oleg.G. 10 місяців тому

    Do you think this rig will be enough to run a CCTV surveillance NVR system, such as Blue Iris, with 5 - 8 4K IP cameras, alongside the NAS?

  • @senkoid
    @senkoid Рік тому

    After your shop intro.. how is your wall-plate project going?

  • @TheRogueBro
    @TheRogueBro Рік тому

    So this runs whatever OS you decide to put on it? That's kinda neat as most have their own proprietary OS's

  • @Raintiger88
    @Raintiger88 Рік тому

    Don't know that I'd call it a NAS, but it's mildly interesting for niche cases.

  • @milescarter7803
    @milescarter7803 Рік тому

    I'm seriously waiting for a bunch of neat devices out of China based on recycled Ryzen netbook or chromebook CPUs etc.

  • @matthewjbauer1990
    @matthewjbauer1990 Рік тому

    I don't run a rack mount server. I run a HP Micro Server G10 Opteron. Its a 4 bay cube server. Its a bit on the slow side (for today) and transcoding is slow. For a NAS, it serves its purpose. I currently run Windows Server 2019 on it and it runs OK. I have served VMs from it and its fine as long as I acknowledge that I can only do 1 dual core VM at a time (no big deal for me). Currently, its set up as my storage server + Chia.

  • @BryceDearden
    @BryceDearden 11 місяців тому

    Unfortunately it seems like the 5500U version is out of stock and not coming back. I have found one that is the same but with only one nvme. The Topton model has switched to the N100 and now only supports 1 nvme and 1 stick of memory. Really weakens the proposition of this as a jellyfin/plex box.

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp 10 місяців тому

      Hey man, AOOSTAR is pre-selling the R7 5700U, only $10 more than the 5500U, don't miss out again! I just purchased two of them.

    • @RomanKovbasyuk
      @RomanKovbasyuk Місяць тому

      R1 model is cheaper and is not as hot, so for those who need this mostly as a storage box with a Plex server, that may be enough.

  • @Tuulos
    @Tuulos Рік тому

    I don't see the external similarity to be honest, it's more of a trashcan vs. humidifier to me.

  • @gabest4
    @gabest4 Рік тому

    I don't agree with the usb-c power plug idea. If that breaks it is impossible to solder it back at home, and a good power supply costs a lot. They are usually not designed to run 24/7, expect them to fail after a year.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +3

      USB-C is absolutely designed to run 24/7 at 65W. It's part of the standard. And you're right, you won't be soldering a new connector at home, but you would also have a power supply that is 1/4 the size and easily sourced and replaced.

    • @gabest4
      @gabest4 Рік тому

      @@CraftComputing I can replace a standard 12v or 19v 5.5mm notebook charger for free, because I have already accumulated so many of them. But to buy a reliable usb type-c charger online, that is not some fake Chinese clone, that's more difficult.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +1

      Stop buying shit USB-C chargers. It's not difficult to find good ones.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys Рік тому

      There's something to be said for machines with both @@CraftComputing - a barrel charger is outright cheaper to make (it only supports one voltage, no PD negotiation, fewer wires, cheaper connector etc) and there's no reason for it to be larger. The main advantage of USB-C is one adapter for everything.
      In a static machine, i would prioritise the barrel jack. If you want to run barrel-jack powered stuff from USB, you can get a PD trigger cable (though it would be great if they spent the $3 to put one and a connector on the board).

  • @nick-leffler
    @nick-leffler 6 місяців тому +1

    How is the SATA connected? Is it via USB or PCIe?

    • @RomanKovbasyuk
      @RomanKovbasyuk Місяць тому

      it is on motherboard, no USB

    • @nick-leffler
      @nick-leffler Місяць тому

      @@RomanKovbasyuk doesn't mean it's USB or pcie. A lsusb and lspci would show us.

  • @el_fredo
    @el_fredo Рік тому

    A very interesting device for Unraid. But I would be interested in the power consumption. As far as the built-in CPU is concerned, I find different specifications on the internet: 15 Watt TDP and 25 Watt TDP. Does anyone here have exact information? I live in Germany, where electricity costs are very high... Therefore, my home server needs to be efficient, not powerful.
    ServeTheHome also presented interesting mini PCs from ASUS in the last video. Very power efficient, but I need space for two 2.5 inch SSD.

  • @africantwin173
    @africantwin173 Рік тому

    I went for Unraid Plus.

  • @BR0KK85
    @BR0KK85 Рік тому +2

    Does it have ECC support?

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂😂 on Ryzen mobile? Doubt it

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому

      no

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +1

      Even if the answer is obviously no to you, this is a question that needs to be asked. To the manufacturer of every device that claims a server role.
      Also, there's probably a more detailed answer hiding here; many newer RAM chips run in-chip ECC, but the reason isn't what you want to hear. They're expecting faults because they run close to physical limits. These are more common than the sporadic errors traditional ECC corrects. So on the plus side, the in chip protection may be able to correct the classic sporadic errors, but on the minus side, it could also be those that overwhelm the correction ability.

    • @BR0KK85
      @BR0KK85 Рік тому

      @@milescarter7803 the chip ain't so different from a normal desktop chip.
      Any Ryzen chip has ECC support. Even the non pro variants of Ryzen support this feature. Pro variants have this as an official feature

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +1

      @@0LoneTech DDR5 has on-die ECC which is better than nothing, DDR4 does not. This device uses DDR4 ram

  • @TOMKO_
    @TOMKO_ 10 місяців тому

    Anyone thought of clustering 3 of these? What are your use cases?

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp 10 місяців тому

      That would be a bit costly.

  • @lexluthermiester
    @lexluthermiester Рік тому

    @CraftComputing
    While this does seem compelling, only two SATA drives afford little to no fault tolerances. This should have been built with 4 drive bays minimum.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +2

      RAID-1 is a thing....

    • @lexluthermiester
      @lexluthermiester Рік тому

      @@CraftComputing
      True, but not a very attractive thing. 4 drive RAID would be a much better option for both space and data redundancy concerns. Adding 2 extra bays to the setup wouldn't be very costly and would make for a much more attractive product.

  • @Shuttterbugg
    @Shuttterbugg Рік тому

    I dont know alot about nas, i wsnted to get one to offset alot of storage im using for video editing etc. Why do nas use hdd onstead of ssd, price, or speed doesnt matter when u use interent antway or what??

  • @DamienThorne
    @DamienThorne Місяць тому

    if i setup my Plex server in the AOOSTAR R1 , will the config support HW encoding?

  • @kristiyanyanakiev1190
    @kristiyanyanakiev1190 2 місяці тому

    Hello, which software i have to use to make NAS?

  • @DanielaTocan
    @DanielaTocan Рік тому

    Maybe a problem you can not solve. But shows an interesting problem. In Proxmox i can see the AMD RX5700 xt gpu on the windows 11 machine after I did passthrough it. I run it on a Fujitsu RX350 v7 server. This server should be specialized not as Gaming pc. Topic here is to run it as Media video editing Server and a music composition and daw server. The reason I did first install an AMD gpu is to be compatible later with a Hackintosh machine.
    Any idea why the windows vm use the AMD gpu and I can see it running in the device manager but Davinci Resolve does not see the gpu. Any idea or to make a video for this task?

  • @Itay1787
    @Itay1787 Рік тому +1

    Something is not clear to me, what makes it a NAS? The 2nd hot swap drive bay?
    Because the system it was shipped with is really not suitable for use as a NAS.
    And what exactly makes it a router?! The Intel WiFi cannot be used as AP Mode
    Even the system it comes with cannot be used as a router!
    If it's a router, then every Synology that exists is considered a router as well.
    It's just a mini pc and that's it! Nothing more and nothing less...

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +1

      Having 2 sata and 2 nvme allows RAID which is the minimum for acting as a NAS. Windows can create shared folders and do a software RAID1 so it does qualify as a NAS OS even if it's not the best.
      A Router is a device that does NAT translation between two networks so it only needs 2 ethernet ports to be a router. Also Windows can do this. A device creating a wifi network is a Wifi access point.
      Yes Synology NAS devices can be used as routers too, they have the services needed.
      You are confusing the "router-switch-accesspoint-modem" combo devices you get from your ISP as "router".

  • @NickCards
    @NickCards Рік тому

    You should laser etch that Mac Pro and use it as a flower pot.

  • @lendara40
    @lendara40 Рік тому

    What a nice find! This should be able to run unraid right?

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому +1

      yes, I'm running unraid

    • @lendara40
      @lendara40 Рік тому

      @@AMBER88-gk8vp awesome! if you don’t mind sharing the drives and how you have them configured would be appreciated :)

    • @bluesangel75
      @bluesangel75 10 місяців тому

      @@AMBER88-gk8vp what power consumption & do you have sleep mode working ?

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp 10 місяців тому

      Has a sleep mode and doesn't use much power@@bluesangel75

  • @ChubiChan
    @ChubiChan Рік тому

    SPACE TOASTER PRESERVES! (RAID IS NOT A BACKUP)

  • @57thStIncident
    @57thStIncident Рік тому +1

    Marketed as a NAS + ROUTER but this review doesn't really look at it from those perspectives, it seems to only consider it as a mini PC that happens to be chunky enough to hold a pair of 3.5" SATA drives.

  • @ShadowRune
    @ShadowRune Рік тому

    I'm still relatively new when it comes to home networking, need to upgrade in my main Wi-Fi router in my also been thinking about getting a Nas. Would this be a good choice to take care of both of my problems?

    • @AMBER88-gk8vp
      @AMBER88-gk8vp Рік тому +1

      I would not recommend beginners .

    • @RomanKovbasyuk
      @RomanKovbasyuk Місяць тому

      No, it is better to keep router and NAS as separate devices.

  • @isaacjjones
    @isaacjjones Рік тому

    I completely misread the title! I thought it said Asustor and I was surprised they would make something so seemingly ugly 🤣🤣
    NGL, it looks like a sweet little machine though!

  • @pweddy1
    @pweddy1 Рік тому +1

    Ryzen 5500u is too old for USB power in the Ryzen line.
    Later models would support this feature.
    Still a very nice little box. I might like it for a little cheaper.

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 Рік тому +2

      It's a good point though, a PD trigger is like $2 wholesale, you could make it USB-C yourself, so they could have too.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys Рік тому

      My 3550U laptop has PD charging (and a barrel jack)

  • @zxcvb_bvcxz
    @zxcvb_bvcxz Рік тому

    What's the maximum drive capacity this will take? 20TB drives need substantial current on startup

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Рік тому +1

      With modern hardware, there's really not a 'max capacity' limitation. Any SATA disk will work.

    • @zxcvb_bvcxz
      @zxcvb_bvcxz Рік тому +1

      @@CraftComputing to clarify, I mean will the 12 volt rail in this box cope with 2x2A from two 20TB drives spinning up at boot?

  • @hpsfresh
    @hpsfresh Рік тому

    Wrong link?