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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  6 років тому +6

    What's your ideal Bikepacking set up?

    • @brianantnssn5177
      @brianantnssn5177 6 років тому +8

      GCN Tech my buddy carrying everything, and passing me snacks. But that’s not going to happen

    • @countertony
      @countertony 6 років тому +1

      For me, panniers and a trunk bag on a alu sportive/commuting road bike, but that's 'cos I already own them. Life's easier if you don't have to lay out a ton of cash first - you can spend it on nice hotels and dinner instead.

    • @lisapet160
      @lisapet160 6 років тому +3

      Volunteer in minivan.

    • @myfavouritechair
      @myfavouritechair 6 років тому

      GCN Tech do you have any videos on dynamo hubs yet?

    • @jackm7254
      @jackm7254 4 роки тому

      Pannier rack...

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 6 років тому +23

    Josh did a mighty fine job as a presenter, just hinting.

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp 6 років тому +13

    “Use what works for you”. Agreed, and make sure you find out what works for you locally over a weekend, before riding to the absolute middle of nowhere. Test,test,and test some more.

  • @brandonmusgrove6294
    @brandonmusgrove6294 6 років тому +38

    "Welcome to the Global Bike Packing Network (GBPN) I'm Josh Ibbett your host for adventure"

    • @doswheelsbetter8292
      @doswheelsbetter8292 6 років тому +6

      "This week we will be traversing the Australian outback."

  • @66smashy
    @66smashy 6 років тому +5

    What Josh says at around 21:00 is bang on. In the out of the way places people are incredibly inventive and resourceful with repairing stuff, all kinds of stuff. When I travelled in Indonesia years ago I saw a group of guys disconnect an engine from a newish Mercedes coach, lift it out onto a dusty/gravelly area and then effect an engine block repair. I'm sure that wasn't the recommended procedure in the manual from Stuttgart.

  • @liamhackett7997
    @liamhackett7997 6 років тому +6

    Nice to see Josh with a classic Casio F-91W is indestructible!

  • @corkhead0
    @corkhead0 6 років тому +18

    Other channels: I did 5 minutes of googling and here's what I found.
    GCN: Here's an expert who has been doing this for years who can answer all your questions.

  • @damianvanloon2934
    @damianvanloon2934 6 років тому +1

    My experience is for tarmac/road usage (not off-road) but tubeless is messy and much more difficult for beginners for bike packing, think sealant, seating the tyre on the rim, getting the tyre on and off etc. Much easier to run tubes and repair/boot a slashed non tubeless tyre! Also spares/repair kits are much easier to come by when you are out and about in strange locations.

  • @KrzysztofOsiecki
    @KrzysztofOsiecki 6 років тому +1

    I started with extrawheel trailer + 2x60L waterproof sacks (not bags), but it was for transporting 2p tent, 2x inflatable mats, 2x sleeping bags, food and garments for 2 persons, then I reduced size of my gear so I could pack 2 persons in ~55L (still used extrawheel) and last year I switched to bikepacking. I use ortlieb bikepacking set of bags: front, rear and framepack, and manage to squeeze in 2p marmot tent, inflatable mat, sleeping bag, cooking kit, essential spares for bike, after ride clothes, waterproof-ish kit, hygiene kit, camera etc. It's so much easier to ride bikepacker style and it teaches you to avoid taking unnecessary baggage I think I can pack my week long stuff into 25-ish liters, that's almost 5x less than what I started with.

    • @jeffozimek2178
      @jeffozimek2178 6 років тому

      Well said! That's what we're working towards, one trip at a time. Could you share what you bring for "essential spares for your bike"?

    • @KrzysztofOsiecki
      @KrzysztofOsiecki 6 років тому

      Sure: 2 spare tubes, tyre patches, shifter cable, and if riding remote places couple of spokes. When I'm close to civilization, I reduce spares to tubes and patches. Of course it means I have to take air pump (with gauge!) spoke wrench, multitool preferably with chain tool and survival knife and wet tissues or latex gloves. If you repair your chain in the middle of the forrest on hot day you will never forget to take wet tissues again ;)

  • @DirtyBunnyAdventureCycling
    @DirtyBunnyAdventureCycling 6 років тому +2

    IMHO : "BIkepacking" is shorthand for more offroad / backwoods style of riding. "Touring" is shorthand for more on/over the road style riding. I'm also kinda surprised nobody mentioned "Randonneuring" style bags? Sure, they're not as sexy as the new stuff, but a decent size rando bag will hold as much as a foxtail bikepacking seatbag.
    But my opinion? Never limit yourself to one style. My tour bike has elements from all three, and it works for me.

  • @RedWingsninetyone
    @RedWingsninetyone 6 років тому

    Happy to see you guys doing some Adventure Bike/Bikepacking videos! It is something I've wanted to do since before I knew it was a thing.

  • @kathyjurgens7153
    @kathyjurgens7153 Рік тому

    Excellent and helpful segment. I do have a question about bags. I ride a specialized rumor women's mountain bike. I wonder if I strap the stuff sack to my women's bike setup the bag will be too close to my knees as I peddle. Also, I wonder if the saddle bag that points away from the bike, over the rear tire, if that would interfere with the dropper post. But I'm guessing if I'm on touring terrain I probably won't use that post anyway.

  • @jetpilotohetty
    @jetpilotohetty 6 років тому +3

    So many uploads today gcn. Its nice. 🇵🇭🇵🇭 learned more today

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  6 років тому +1

      Glad you're enjoying it, we've got more where this came from!

  • @chrisbellson7164
    @chrisbellson7164 6 років тому +2

    This is awesome. Simon, loving the bike packing series, especially since I jumped on board with the whole gravel bike thing. Unfortunately, its costing me a lot of money when I see all this cool new gear to get!

  • @Pen2paw
    @Pen2paw 6 років тому

    I bike commuting with panniers. What I found bad about bike rack was that the screws got lost in the most inconvenient time. Also, my heels occasionally kicked the panniers because I had a small frame.

  • @chrismarcan195
    @chrismarcan195 6 років тому +1

    Do you do anything to secure your bike or an alarm system or tracking system? That's a whole lot of expensive stuff in your kit, not to mention the pickle you get into if your bike/gear is stolen. Locks are soooo heavy. I find with the limited travelling I've done, I get very nervous leaving my bike unprotected and find it's often very limiting as to what I can do while traveling on bike.

  • @davidemery429
    @davidemery429 4 роки тому

    If you are on the road with some slight off road/gravel riding panniers are by far better than a bike packing set up and you can manage what you have so much easier. However, bike packing bags are great if your doing more off-road and shorter tours or ride where you really want to get the weight down. Downside is when you stop if you want to go to a bar or restaurant you can get panniers off and take them with you, with bike packing the downside is it’s not as easy to strip your bike.

  • @diamantisathanasopoulos1479
    @diamantisathanasopoulos1479 6 років тому +2

    what sleeping bag, pad (inflatable?) and bivy did you use?

  • @SaKuLification
    @SaKuLification 6 років тому +16

    If you want to be 100% save from fails you better stay home.
    I had a broken saddle rail - temporarily fixed it with a branch ziptied under the saddle.
    broke a brakelever off the handlebar - fixed it with zipties.
    just risk somethink and get creative, it's part of the adventure.

  • @SuperJohnnyO
    @SuperJohnnyO 3 роки тому

    What shorts were you sporting on the Atlas ride? Thanks!

  • @antodorov
    @antodorov 6 років тому +3

    What about a solar panel charger on the giant saddle bag for charging devices?

    • @xtianeskay5166
      @xtianeskay5166 6 років тому +2

      I have tried it on a bike trip... You have time consider that you dont have much space on top, so you can not use the big panels = less power and also the sun is not always out. From my experiences a hub generator with a USB charger is the better way. the panel also ist not very robust and you really need to make sure that it can not fall off...

    • @xtianeskay5166
      @xtianeskay5166 6 років тому +1

      Andrey Todorov depending on the length of your Trip and the amount of devices you need to charge a Power Bank could also be the way to go

  • @blrun129
    @blrun129 6 років тому

    for the tubeless tyres , could you show some practical tips to get them off in case of a emergency and put in a tube ?

  • @TheProjectX3
    @TheProjectX3 6 років тому +3

    How would you prepare for wild animals that would intercept or even attack you? Just returned from a tour where I was introduced to four rabid doggies size of my bike.

  • @sbooder
    @sbooder 6 років тому +1

    I am sure someone will put me right if I am off beat here, but is running tubeless dependent on the wheel rim meeting the tyre perfectly for a seal? I would worry that if I pranged the wheel rim on a rock and either chipped it or bent it (depending on material) I would need an inner tube?

  • @goldfever4570
    @goldfever4570 6 років тому +2

    For Josh - What shoes for the TCR - SPD or SPD-SL?

  • @abota
    @abota 6 років тому

    Josh, how is your pot attached to the seat bag? Looks like some type of strap. Is it commercially available, or a homemade solution? I’ve always found the pot difficult to pack on the bike.

  • @isaacpeat9748
    @isaacpeat9748 6 років тому +2

    I'm really keen to know how much a dynamo actually charges your devices. I have a dynamo but I've never been astounded at the amount that it charges my devices maybe thats because I cycle slower... Anyway I always wonder how much does a dynamo really slow you down vs how much power it actually produces?

  • @arr21000
    @arr21000 6 років тому

    Hi guys, love the bike packing videos. When is the bag video referenced at around 4:40 min going to be uploaded? Cheers!

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 6 років тому

    Leave it to Si to stick up for 1x and carbon, a thoroughly modern man. And surely I grin. Thanks for this video, gents, and I will stick up for panniers--they ride low and they are in back and out of the way and you can easily load and retrieve items and I have a Blackburn rack which I have used for years without a single crack or problem. And I run a pannier hack, a bag-within-a-bag---I used vintage Cannondale panniers as the frame and inner bag, and the outer bag is a cloth motorcycle pannier which is slipped over and attached to the back of the Cannondale pannier. And it works great. And anyone who isn't riding around with a trunk or boot, if you will, is missing out on a true joy of cycling. It is great to be able to haul gear or groceries or finds at produce stands and thrift stores.

  • @kevinchalifoux1772
    @kevinchalifoux1772 4 роки тому

    Hello, I’m new to bikepacking, and I was wondering if you suggest aerobars (even if you don’t use them), for those longer rides?

  • @daniel_001
    @daniel_001 6 років тому

    So good to see this kind of content. I love the bags but I can't imagine how you could bikepack with a tent/waterproofs etc for longer trips in more UK like weather :)

  • @tkterje123
    @tkterje123 6 років тому

    What size in liters is the Apidura saddle, frame and handlebar packs on Josh's bike on the morocco trip ?

  • @michaelclaffey9089
    @michaelclaffey9089 6 років тому

    Great Vid GCN. To make a suggestion.... GCNX channel with Josh Ibbett heavily involved. All things CX, gravel, 1x, travel etc. Think that would be amazing.

  • @charleswhitehouse679
    @charleswhitehouse679 6 років тому

    Does it generally work out better economically to buy components and frame individually, given the added bonus of customisation, or to buy a complete bike, given store premiums and manufacturers rates etc?

  • @kryghyzho7868
    @kryghyzho7868 6 років тому +1

    Bit of a basic question, but did you actually enjoy it Si and would you consider a bit more extreme routes / weather conditions as well?

  • @echtogammut
    @echtogammut 6 років тому +2

    Doesn't clipping your cup on the outside just fill it with bugs, dirt and road grime?

  • @compassionsix
    @compassionsix 3 роки тому

    Rewatching again. Bevie bag comparison video, yes please. Also, Si, liking the old hairstyle.

  • @klaxxon__
    @klaxxon__ 6 років тому +1

    Is frame tape something specific or can I just use regular transparent tape from general store?

    • @milehighsi
      @milehighsi 6 років тому +1

      Something specifically geared towards abrasion resistance, such as the helicopter tape they mentioned, is good. I've used masking tape in the past which also worked. It's just to stop bits of grit trapped between the bag straps and the bars from taking paint off.

  • @ellon118
    @ellon118 6 років тому

    What size of Apidura handlebar bag did you use?

  • @wjl75
    @wjl75 6 років тому +2

    Are the GCN shorts worn in the video going to be made available in the shop?

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  6 років тому +1

      Hey WIlliam, you can buy them from ASSOS website, they were branded with GCN logo as a one-off for the Morocco trip

    • @leqin
      @leqin 6 років тому +5

      You mean you want to buy the shorts worn by Si Richardson... is that creepy or gross :.)

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 6 років тому +2

    Time for a new gcn channel -- GBN: global bikepacking network.

  • @James-ye7rp
    @James-ye7rp 6 років тому

    Do people do bikepacking with mountain bikes?

  • @Bob-Maplethorpe
    @Bob-Maplethorpe 6 років тому

    Panniers catch more wind as well.

  • @winternetz
    @winternetz 6 років тому

    I am in Marrocco in November and planning a tour through the Atlas Mountains ... can I get your route? As map or GPS?
    Thanks

  • @Vikingebo
    @Vikingebo 6 років тому

    Any experience with a big saddle bag and a canyon vcls seatpost?

  • @jakec8489
    @jakec8489 6 років тому +2

    Love the video! Super boring question - what did you do with your bike bags when you were on the ride?

    • @tahirpatan
      @tahirpatan 6 років тому

      Jake C I really want to know this too. Maybe the airport can store them? I'm going to ask when I go Morroco in a month

    • @pimsmitheartspacers
      @pimsmitheartspacers 6 років тому +1

      I've used cardboard boxes that they use for shipping bikes. I threw them away when I got at my destination. Got them at bike shops. Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam sells cardboard bike boxes. Maybe other (big) airports do too :)

    • @jakec8489
      @jakec8489 6 років тому +1

      Pim Smit I’ve done that too with an indestructible steel frame touring bike. However a fancy carbon one seems a little exposed in a simple cardboard box. Maybe I’m overthinking it, bikes are shipped from suppliers in cardboard..

    • @milehighsi
      @milehighsi 6 років тому +2

      Yep - using a cardboard box worked for me, too. I got my bike serviced beforehand and asked them to pack it up for me using one of the boxes they had laying around. They did this for free and added padding, removed the pedals, lowered the saddle, repositioned the handlebars, deflated the tyres a bit, even removed the brake callipers (which came as a surprise in the airport..). Just be sure to tell the airport staff that it's a bike, write fragile on it and the airport staff will treat it respectfully.

  • @jaapvangent4456
    @jaapvangent4456 6 років тому

    hi guys,
    how do you plan the actual route you'll be taking?
    I've been struggling a lot trying to minimise the altitude meters without accidentally skipping the most beautiful routes.
    any tips?

  • @jeremyolson2593
    @jeremyolson2593 6 років тому

    Salsa Cycles has some really good videos on bike packing and adventure cycling.

  • @matyourin
    @matyourin 6 років тому +1

    I only did one long tour, 4 weeks, in Norway, sleeping in a tent. I have no clue how that could have been possible without two large bike packs on my back rack... I had about 20 kg luggage with tent, sleeping bag, iso mat and so on. It gets below 0°C a lot, can snow, rain for days... So I think in that case roadbike backpacking fails. I am curious though how he did it for 6 weeks with a bikepacking setup... probably very small tent and sleeping bag? Or no tent, just biwi? Won't be enough for Norway though... plus I needed more food and gas to stay independent from shops...

    • @richardelsdon2027
      @richardelsdon2027 6 років тому +1

      matyourin it’s entirely possible to carry what you need with bikepacking bags, but in your case panniers might be worth it for easier packing and alternate dry clothing to be more comfortable in the evenings. Check out what they do in Alaska for bikepacking in seriously cold conditions salsacycles.com/culture/alaska_calling_three_perspectives_on_the_iditarod_trail_invitational

    • @matyourin
      @matyourin 6 років тому

      cool, ty for the link, I will check it out.

  • @spencerlemon2679
    @spencerlemon2679 6 років тому +2

    You should do a feature on Josh's bike

  • @MehediHasanSizan
    @MehediHasanSizan 4 роки тому

    What bike are they using? can anyone tell me?

  • @misopaste5680
    @misopaste5680 6 років тому

    amazing video ty

  • @kingpinronin4301
    @kingpinronin4301 3 роки тому

    Who are these people complaining about tubeless?? I've done the Tour Divide and Route 66 3x and never had a problem with tubeless setups, or fixing tyres in that setup, and you can still add strips on the inside of your tyres in addition to sealant if you're that worried about punctures. Only time tubeless is a problem is when it is below freezing temperatures and dealing with sealant and fumbling about with frozen fingers.

  • @jirdesteva
    @jirdesteva 6 років тому

    Shoes ? I have wide flat flipper feet. I own 2 pairs of clip-less mountain bike shoes but on day long trips they aren't comfortable. Are there any you recommend ?

    • @richardelsdon2027
      @richardelsdon2027 6 років тому +1

      jirdesteva just use trainers if you are comfortable in them. Get some nice big mtb flat pedals (many companies now make them in different sizes for those of us with big feet) and don’t worry about the few watts lost in efficiency. Unless you are in a race of course, in which case ‘suck it up’ ;0)

  • @s-ultracycling
    @s-ultracycling 4 роки тому

    Great tips . Love it. Keep it coming. Would love more long distance coverage

  • @bobfoster687
    @bobfoster687 6 років тому +7

    Panniers appear to be less aero.

    • @brianantnssn5177
      @brianantnssn5177 6 років тому

      Bob Foster they did a test on that, the saddlebag was much more aero than a backpack or pannier

  • @dustinmerrick4967
    @dustinmerrick4967 6 років тому

    can anyone guess the exact tire Si uses? looking for a 650b for a friend who wants a faster rolling mtb tire

  • @damianvanloon2934
    @damianvanloon2934 6 років тому

    What Josh Ibbett says about not being able to charge devices AND run bike lights at the same time using a Dynamo Hub is not entirely true. For example, I run a Busch + Muller Luxos U (front light) which comes with a built in integrated lithium cache battery which supplies constant voltage to both the light AND for charging USB devices at the same time. Have used it in this mode effectively during the 2018 Indian Pacific Wheel Race.

  • @mrfailure93
    @mrfailure93 6 років тому

    What is a jellies???

  • @RobBlazoff
    @RobBlazoff 6 років тому +4

    Panniers on a bike with short chainstays and size 48 shoes = no heel clearance.

  • @jonathanzappala
    @jonathanzappala 6 років тому

    Carbon is the most robust. Watch the video of salsa’s carbon wheels getting thrashed.

  • @Pratalax
    @Pratalax 6 років тому

    TT Bars or no?

    • @Mortalfreak876
      @Mortalfreak876 6 років тому

      Personally I like using them. Extra secure for my handlebar bag where I stick my sleeping bag and hammock while giving another position which I find very comfortablegetting to almost lay down and stretch out for a while.

  • @Bartali48
    @Bartali48 6 років тому

    What about using a Backpack?

  • @muskadobbit
    @muskadobbit 6 років тому +2

    Were you ever worried about having your bike stolen?

  • @mitmon_8538
    @mitmon_8538 6 років тому

    The MOST important question: What hair style should I use while bike packing? Ah yes, there's loads of options, it's personal preference, and go with what you're familiar/comfortable with. : ) Great vid guys. Part of the adventure of cycling and bike packing is figuring out what works for you. Everyone has their own style. Keep on pedaling till you find yours.

    • @brandonmusgrove6294
      @brandonmusgrove6294 6 років тому

      If you noticed Josh tried to imitate what Si has on top. A mop of curls; is obviously what make you the best bikepacker.

    • @mrmrmaples
      @mrmrmaples 6 років тому

      Michael Munson we need to ask Dan!

  • @stephenm8270
    @stephenm8270 6 років тому +2

    Im glad GCN is expanding from hard core race bikes......BUT isnt bike packing just "cycle touring" for those beardy weirdie ginger people in tweed, rediscovering what their grandparents did but they couldnt be bothered listening to them when they were young ?
    My grandparents told me great tales of cycling to lake Bala on a short wheel base tandem - "great for going up hills and round corners on descents"... apparently -after the war. Thats what triggered the addiction....... and now look where I am ;0)......ADDICTED!!!!

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 2 роки тому

    i dont mind my bags scuffing my paint the more it scuffs the lighter it is

  • @James-ye7rp
    @James-ye7rp 6 років тому

    bikepacking: Interesting that "bikepacking" is not recognized as a real word by spellchecks, yet.

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337
    @BlackyBrownDestruction9337 2 роки тому

    I put everything in my backpack so that my bike could stay looking sexy

  • @daydreaming_aristocrat
    @daydreaming_aristocrat 6 років тому

    Global Bikepacking Network...

  • @bfeltovi
    @bfeltovi 6 років тому

    Not much discussion of laundry. One pair of underwear? One set of bibs/shorts? Then what?

  • @CoderShare
    @CoderShare 4 роки тому +1

    Taking hydraulic brakes on a bikepacking journey seems like a terrible idea.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  4 роки тому

      They're pretty reliable actually. Only if you crash and break the cables do you encounter a problem

    • @CoderShare
      @CoderShare 4 роки тому +2

      @@gcntech Yeah they're reliable. But on a long remote trip you can assume you will crash at some point. Cables are just easier and more accessible to replace. Plus they're way more packable than a bleed kit.

  • @andystone5487
    @andystone5487 6 років тому

    Josh was very "political" in answering the 3T chainset question.....
    A flimsy carbon cranckset in the middle of nowhere......
    🤦‍♂️
    As if you would......

  • @bobfoster687
    @bobfoster687 6 років тому

    Panniers appear to be less aero.