The Man Who Lost America
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Meet Lord North, a member of King George’s privy council and his personal friend, Lord North is a lot of things. He’s well-educated and quick-witted. He’s firm on America. But more than anything Lord North is a big ol’ people-pleaser. He’s just been elected prime minister in order to solve Britain's debt crisis, and things will finally be stable. Or at least, they would have been, if Lord North had lived at a different point in history. Instead, he became the British Prime Minister who lost America during the American Revolution.
Music [in order of first appearance]:
Arthur Sullivan - Pirates of Penzance Overture
Offenbach - Galop Infernal (aka the Can-Can)
USA National Anthem
Honey Lemon - Sneaky Comedy
Arthur Sullivan - Major General Song
John Philip Sousa - Right Forward
Brown House Media - Lounge
John Philip Sousa - The Thunderer March
John Williams - Jaws Theme (on accordion)
Orchestralis - Epic Classical
Tatamusic - Mexican
Ollmah - Cinematic Gypsy Jazz
MX Orchestralis - Lullaby for Church Choir
JBlanks - Long Time Synth the 80s
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Hello Jack! Huge fan
@@danielsantiagourtado3430 Bonjour!
1:20 I see you there Westmoreland. Doin't think you can sneak that by me Jackie-boy.
The crown only wanted to tax the yanks on tea & limited luxury goods.
They were so daft that they chose to pay vastly more tax under their own leadership that they got just as little say with a copy of the English bills of rights shortened called the USA constitution.
Seems like a lot of effort on the USA's part for nothing. The Canuck's just asked politely for self dominion in a letter instead of making demands!
Yanks never had any tact or reason & this is why 0,2 million yanks passed for no reason.
Even Brits wrote of what a pointless war it was!
Mind doesn't work for USA indoctrination called education which it is no such thing.
Still Britain's parliament being a Sh!t show at the time didn't help matters with domestic affa8irs unstable to say the least.
Thanks for putting this video out Jack. It was just what the doctor ordered after a terribly annoying day at work. Please keep up the good work.
“How do you lose a colony?”
“You forget to cherish them”
Their daddy gave them a name and then he walked away.
OH
Britain at the time: we still have the Caribbean right? well all good (also what is happening in India?)
The fact Brits and france would take themselves down if it meant the other would go down too is truly a piece of art
I’ll be honest, when I saw the title I was thinking “huh I wonder who it could be, James Buchanan? Nah that wouldn’t make sense” then I saw it was revolutionary war “oh maybe it’s Benedict Arnold” then I read the description “who the hell is Lord North?”
*The guy that drank tea*
I have always found the way the American Revolution is taught in American schools was shit. The constitutional monarch is the tyrant but not the Prime Minister whose Parliament passed the taxes?
I was thinking “that doesn’t look like George III” >_>
@@DyknownYeah, as an American we don’t really learn a whole lot about the actual British politics during the Revolutionary War, it feels very much like we just imagine King George as fucking Sauron.
@@InquisitorThomas George Washington would make sauron His bitch, just like He did with King George III and France.
"The American settlers were free to expand as far west as the Mississippi river, whether there be Native Americans there or not." Ironically, this was another major source of tension between the Crown and the colonists. After some rather bloody hostilities between the natives and the settlers, London decided to forbid any further settler expansion west of the Appalachian mountains (the Proclamation Line of 1763). American colonists duly ignored this, and it was a source of considerable friction between the two sides.
Scotch Irish causing more troubles for the English crown as usual 😅
@@stevencooper4422As God f*cking intended XD
Yes and denying the colonists their God given rights to genocide is in the Declaration of Independence in the Grievances section.
Sounds like Israhell from 1948 onwards.
@@OsirisLord the main reason they were upset is because the whole reason the seven years war was fought, was over Ohio and the French territory west of the Appalachian mountains. The colonists were promised that land after the war, after the war, Britain went back on their promise the British were still genociding natives in many of their colonies. They just didn’t want the Americans to expand, and this led to a lot of tension when they started taxing them for the war. Well, not giving them any of the gains that the Americans had been promised.
We should include North as one of the Founding Fathers
They made the colonies independent, they didn't found them.
No. The only Founders worth talking about are:
#1 George Washington.
#2 Alexander Hamilton.
#3 John Marshall.
The more i read about the american revolution the more i realize the nation was built on hundreds of myths. The brits were much fairer to them than any other colonies and only taxed them to pay debts acrued defending them. They act like britain was evil and oppresive to them but it absolutely wasnt. Then of course the americans would go on to tax the hell out of many peoples without even acknowledging their humanity let alone offer them representation
@@Rngblahblah6 Jefferson and Adams?
@@Rngblahblah6 Bro really left out James Madison, the fucking author of the constitution 💀
One reason the tea tax was so controversial is because part of its purpose was to pay the salaries of colonial governors who had previously been paid by local taxes. This was a scheme to make governors dependent on the British government directly, so in that sense it was a direct challenge to the autonomy of the colonies.
I've always said, even before Hamilton, that George III gets blamed for the war because he was the King.
But by this point in history, it was Parliament, not the crown, who held that kind of power.
It was far more the fault of Lord North and Viscount Sackville, in their refusal to compromise or even consider the colonial interests.
George III was extremely sympathetic to the colonies at first, calling the taxes basically an unjust tyranny against a people who had no representation.
George III was largely to blame. He was a young monarch that was enthralled at this point with the idea of being an absolute monarch like his continental counterparts, but even the king's faction in Parliament (the Tories) proved resistant to the idea of surrendering their hard won power to an all powerful sovereign. This denial led George to find other avenues to obtain that power, and the Privy Council (which oversaw Britain's colonies) became the outlet for his ambition. The Crown used Lord Bute and Lord North's (the king's personal friends) control of Parliament to legally cover this increasing direct control over the colonies and ignoring the ensuing backlash.
The crux of the problem wasn't taxation, but rather that the Crown was using the Colonies as a back door attempt to circumvent the restrictions that were imposed upon it by Parliament since the Restoration. If Parliament had been more forceful in slapping down the King through legislation or had established a self-governing Dominion for the Colonies, independence would have been averted. But Parliament dithered, and the Colonists chose independence because they judged it had failed to defend its perogatives.
The British could have played the long game and subverted the colonies by supporting loyalists to be the representatives.
Even though I’m wholly on #TeamAmerica, I feel bad for Lord North. Bless his heart, he tried. He failed miserably, but he tried.
Gotta respect a dude who's in over his head
I am glad you lot got independence but one can't help but wonder what would've happened if he'd been allowed to resign and we'd had a PM who actually new how to lead a war/ lead negotiations
Imagine finding America and then losing it.
America is a massive country, how do you lose it?
At that time the United States was much smaller than it is today.
To be fair some of those old couches were BIG, so check around the cushions
@@Atlas3060 XD
The more i read about the american revolution the more i realize the nation was built on hundreds of myths. The brits were much fairer to them than any other colonies and only taxed them to pay debts acrued defending them. They act like britain was evil and oppresive to them but it absolutely wasnt. Then of course the americans would go on to tax the hell out of many peoples without even acknowledging their humanity let alone offer them representation
The problem with repersentation was that the USA feared becoming like Ireland, and the UK feared becoming a US Vassal ala early Norman-French rule.
But imagine how based that would be?
À la*
America owes him a lot for his lack of talent😂😂😂😂
Yeah America should have sent him a fruit basket and said "Thanks for botching it up so much, we appreciate you!" At the very least the poor guy would have been praised by *someone* .
He wasn't talentless, just dealing with the greatest crybabies in history
He had the wrong talents for the wrong time. He tried too hard to compromise on everything, rather than carefully pick and choose what to compromise on based on an understanding of what everyone wanted.
@@chideraalexanderdex547sounds talentless to me, but I guess he's alright compared to most other British prime ministers, especially recently
@@isaac3140 how is he talentless? All his measures were reasonable and made sense. The Americans just wanted to whine over EVERYTHING and used the sentiment of taxation without representation as a boldfaced lie to avoid paying their fairshare
Great work with the segway to commercial. Top marks.
Seriously, smooth as melted butter.
Just an FYI, it's segue.
@@atimholt I knew it was wrong when I wrote it but I was too burnt to remember why. Thanks.
@@atimholt It *was* segue; but we the ppl can make it segway!
@@SylviaRustyFae Changing it to “segway” gives in to cringy corporate pressure from a failed product. We don't want it to become “segway”.
Fun Fact: At the Boston Tea Party Museum they actually have a chest of tea from the Tea Party and some of the actual tea. 🤩
They got it out of the harbor? Wow!
I honestly feel sad for the man.
He knew his limitations and asked to get replaced. But he was forced to stay on when he was already clearly struggling in the water.
Yeah I laughed at the video but halfway through I just felt bad for him.
By the end of his life, he became blind and sickly; constantly apologetic over his role in the American war of independence.
@@shivill2236
Oh my that sounds awful
Of course, the whole reason they were making interest payments was the whole south sea bubble. So, really...it was Walpole.
Walpole!
The minute Jack said the word "lottery" I said "OH NO" so loudly my husband asked what was wrong.
ah the chain of dominos just keeps a toppling
Everything comes back to Harley and Walpole, the two Roberts :(
You call Lord North incompetent and one of the worst Prime Ministers, though I tend to disagree. Firstly, the man held office for 12 years straight, making him the sixth longest prime minister in office.
Furthermore, I'm surprised you avoided mentioning anything else in his career outside of American Independence, considering he managed the Falklands War, which was a decisive British victory, that would have gone down in history unless a mediocre successor to the office stole his thunder 300 years later, though they at least didn't steal his length of tenure.
It's also somewhat dishonest to blame the problem on solely North. He didn't bring the heavy taxes (that was done 3 years before he took office), he wasn't leading the direct battle, he wasn't even the sole man in charge of the war effort in parliament (see the inventor of the sandwich for that failure) and it was a battle an ocean away.
People (or; Americans) fail to realise just how much red tape is in the UK government, if North wanted to perform anything (e.g. a new strategy or a treaty) he would have to consult the cabinet, parliament, king or all of the above.
At least he legitimately tried. And he clearly knew he was in over his head and tried repeatedly to resign.
A different king or more spine would have served him extremely well. Or shorter distances for faster communication.
Oh well, at least we got a fancy new country out of it!
0:58 wasn't there a whole thing where the lands west of the Appalachians were considered native reservation and the settlers weren't allowed there?
That was a MAJOR cause of the war.
By the 1774 or so, they had started settling there anyway. For example, Kentucky's oldest European settlements date back to that year.
Yeah. It was called the Royal Proclamation Line of 1763.
Yes and no. Colonies could and did renegotiate borders with the native tribes, so the Proclamation Line of 1763 that we all see in maps of the time was actually no longer the border by 1775. But the principle remained that they didn't _want_ to have to negotiate with the tribes on an equal footing.
This was both a major cause of the war, and the primary reason Canada (what was then Quebec) didn't join the rebellion, because they had been given all the territory around the Great lakes north of the Ohio river, and not the 13 Colonies.
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I love that the French PM is literally brushing the King's hair. Imagine Starmer doing that with Charles today lol
I can imagine it now.🤣
Return of Jack's cinematic universe with the King of France sticking it to the British again!
12:50 wow. the most relatable man in history.
From my understanding the reason why representation was not considered because, primarily, the British didn’t consider it. Once that die was cast the colonists basically said “if telling them what we want didn’t work, then what leads us to believe it will work next time.”
Plus, British parliamentary representation at the time was _extremely_ unbalanced, since there'd never been any systematic redistricting as populations (both landowning and not) had changed over the centuries. In particular, you had:
- "normal" rural districts, electing their own MPs
- "normal" cities and towns that _were_ their own parliamentary boroughs, electing their own MPs
- recently-grown cities and towns like Manchester that were still lumped in with surrounding rural districts, and wanted their own MPs to match the more established towns of similar population
- and notorious "rotten boroughs"/"pocket boroughs" that elected their own MPs representing _very few_ people. Often these were _former_ cities or towns, once-important places that, in their prime, had made some sense to be their own districts. But by the 1700s, they'd become relative nowheres whose MPs were effectively in the pocket of their _one_ big landowner.*
Granting representation to the colonies risked opening up more general calls for parliamentary reform, which would hurt those in power who benefited from the existing system. ...Which those in power held out against, until the threat of possible revolution led to _actual_ reforms in the 1830s.
* The two most notorious were:
- *Old Sarum,* a town on a defensive hill in the 1100s, which was completely abandoned by the 1500s after a new town (modern Salisbury) was founded next to the nearby river around 1220. Effectively, the town moved a couple miles. But the old town didn't exactly die overnight, and it managed to get its own MPs in 1295 despite its evident decline.
- *Dunwich,* a major port town before 1300, nearly as big as then-contemporary London, that had declined to a small village by 1400. Basically, the River Dunwich changed course away from the town as the harbor silted up. On top of that, multiple major storms between 1286 and 1362 destroyed most of the old town. And without the river mouth there, coastal currents started severely eroding that part of the coast, making even the _ruins_ fall into the sea by the early 1900s. (The only surviving medieval ruins are an old priory and hospital that had been well _inland_ of the old town.)
Part of the reason Parliament never gave America any seats, was that it would trigger a larger question of "well now the other colonies want seats". Parliament knew that if they started giving the other colonies representatives they could form a powerful voting bloc, effectively allowing the colonies to rule over the home islands which was the last thing the british empire wanted.
Very true, though I'm not certain the American Colonies considered that since it appears that they, or at least the ones in charge, didn't actually want representation since they feared that the rest of Parliament would just outvote their representatives who might not even vote in favor of them after spending time in London.
@@Lorekeeper72 I would disagree the feeling in the beginning was that since they (the people of the american colonies) are englishmen the magna carta grants them the right of representation, which is correct and part of the reason parliament didn't want to comply since the other colonies would then need representatives. also the olive branch petition and the 1774 petition to the king which jack writes off in this video, states that while the colonies felt that parliament was overstepping their powers they still believed they were loyal subjects of the king. Again the general belief at the start was for a push for a seat in parliament it was only after fighting started that the fringe belief of full independence became mainline.
Tbo this didn't make North look bad, it makes the Prime minister appointment look like an awful bureaucratic decision. lol
10:28 a fantastic remake of what it means to be French.
Ah yes, the anti-Columbus
I like the rebrand, keep doing what your doing :)
10:08 I can't believe you missed the opportunity to say "things were going south".
I thought "Jack was surely keeping this pun for a later point in the video" but it never came 😢
He showed some remarkable restraint this video.
I’m going to be annoying, but in the UK Parliament the prime minister sits on the right of the chair, and the Leader of the Opposition sits on the left (basically flipped the wrong way round.
Funfact:! The british soldiers who fired on the crowd during the boston massacre were put on trial for murder. If found guilty, they would be hanged. The attorney who defended the soldiers was none other than founding father and future president, John Adams. Of the 8 soldiers on trial, 6 were acquitted and the other 2 were found guilty, but of the lesser crime of manslaughter. John Adams used a legal maneuver called " benefit of the clergy", which means since the 2 soldiers were first time offenders, their punishment was only to have their thumb branded.
Things went South
For Lord North
That was as smooth of an ad segue as I've ever seen
I feel bad for lord North, all things considered
Yeah imagine understanding you are not the guy for the job and trying to resign so someone more competent could do it and your just told nah man
@@notthefbi7015Part of the reason why King George wanted to keep Lord North was because of how reliable he was. He was someone with good connections to most MPs and was competent when solving the debt (until the war).
@@shivill2236 The actual 'answer' would've been to allow him to become a deputy prime minister in charge of home affairs and to elevate someone else to prime minister
edit: nevermind, it would've been near impossible given that no deputies had existed until 1942
"Just because you pay for a service doesn't mean you get to use it." is quite a statement make
Jack, i *always* watch your ad reads bcuz theyre so well done; and still i was floored when i realised youd so smoothly transitioned into that ad read that i was a ways in before even realisin it was an ad read xD
holy shit whoever's animating this is doing amazing! i just noticed the eye twitches during this scene its so good 11:20
Really a marvel how he wasnt deposed given his string of bad decisions and madness there at the end
King George managed to cling to the thrones thanks to the competency of his ministers. They worked hard to ensure that if he were to lose it fully, he would be replaced by his son.
@@shivill2236, and by the Napoleonic Wars, his son was basically running the show for him anyway.
@occam7382 Eh... kinda. The real people in charge at that moment would actually have been the Prime Minister. Pitt, the Younger and Spencer Perceval, were both able to get what they wanted from the regency crisis. For those brief moments, they were the actual tip of the government.
Not gonna lie that add transition was smooth. Took me a good 15 seconds longer than usual to see it coming.
I love your videos, man! I really hope VTH reacts to it too!
YES! I need to see him react to his!
1:20 I see you there Westmoreland. Doin't think you can sneak that by me Jackie-boy.
Nelson Muntz sees Lord North: "HA-HA!"
I never heard ANY teacher, talk like this in ALL my years in school AND college. Yes, I did take a history classes, one which solely focus on the American Revolution. I thank you for finally telling the REAL story about the American Revolution. Since elementary school, I had this nagging feeling that the history of American revolution, wasn't so back and white. Now I can die happy. No joke.
4:35 Excellent visual of the American Militia attacking the American Militia, this is a great Alternate History vid.
[Not name dropping Guadalupe in the mention of the Caribbean]
Revolutionary historians: "Somebody bring me the extra sturdy keyboard and two bottles of wine, I will not stand for this personal insult!"
I think we are being un-fair to lord north, He wanted to quit HE KNEW he was not up for the job and the king would't let him
4:20 "Tabling" means the complete opposite thing to Americans from what it does to the British. If something is tabled in parliament, that means it's being brought to the floor for discussion.
Oh my…
Never heard of this guy in history class. I always assumed King George was the one who antagonized America. Now that I’ve seen and heard this poor chap’s story, I can’t help but laugh and feel sorry for him. To think his actions were paradoxical; he tried to please everyone and was clearly out of his depth in the moment. Still, good to learn more about how and why these things happened the way they did.
"Let me see a show of hands" 🖐️
You should do a video about that random prussian guy who helped train the continental army some time
2:55 I love your ad transitions
you light up my life sire
GREAT segue transition with the ad! lol
LOVE YOUR CONTENT ❤❤❤❤
British Prime Minister North: *(treats American colonists as second class citizens with Parliament while taxing them)* "Why Would They Break Up With Us????"
America’s toxic ex
“Why don’t they want our beloved tea!!! Everyone pays the tea tax here!” Proceeds to tax without representation
Very interesting. Thank you.
I’m from the UK and Lord North was the MP for my home town back then. He’s buried in one of the local villages
RIP Lord North, your blundering of America laid the path so many Tory politicians could blunder the rest of Britain away after you
Love your videos
The ad is part of the education. Nice.
6:15 Dutch tea being bigger makes sense with new Amsterdam colony being the New Jersey state and Hudson River smushed between new Sweden and New England.
Poor Lord North, he tried so hard and only got so far. But in the end it didn't even matter
10:07
"Things were not going North's way"
So you could say...they were going south? XD
Man that ad transition was so smooth I didn’t realize it was an ad for a few minutes
Your getting better and better at doing ad segways
You get my vote for most legendary segue into a sponsorship. 10/10
Last time I was this early for a Jack Rackam video France still had colonies in North America.
The one channel where I don't skip over the ad
This summary entirely ignores that the American rebels were a minority amongst the colonists and that even amongst the rebels, most of them wanted to maintain at least the British monarchy. It wasn't Lord North's fault for not placating to the American rebels because there was no reason to do so. It is only in hindsight that we could say his decisions made him partially culpable, but at the time, the rebels could have been dealt with from the beginning, the British were just too soft to execute the rebel leaders when they passed the bill to form militias
10:28 Nice callback to the Louis XVI episode.
The VPN segment was masterfully smooth - I am at a loss for words.
YAY, NEW VIDEO!!!!!!!
Can you do life & time of Garibaldi?
your videos are so good
10:28 Very nice remaster of a moment from the French Revolution trilogy.
Britain pretty much was trying to do the equivalent of a detached dad parenting a 7-year-old, to a 15-year-old latchkey kid. Too little, way too late, and clearly not listening to what's wrong
Congratulations. You made me feel sorry for Lord North.
Yeah, don't blame George III for losing us, blame Lord North!
0:18 Oh damn, no wonder why the brits tried to heavily tax us.
I love the 80's style music at the end. Very fitting for a war that ended in the 1780's.
Was it really his fault if he requested to resign numerous times because he knew he wasn’t qualified but repeatedly denied?
Happiness is a new Jack Rackam video on Friday.
The older I get the more the taxation after the french and indian war seems reasonable
Wasn’t American expansion beyond the line of compromise also a massive factor in the American declaration as well? Like Americans didn’t like limits on westward expansion
8 years of learning about the revolutionary war in grade school and high school and they never talked about exactly the tax appeals and the preference for Dutch tea which led to the Boston Tea Party. It makes It look less like a protest against unfair taxation policies and more like a bunch of entitled Karen’s throwing a tantrum
The proclamation line of 1763 was instituted after Pontiac's Rebellion and limited colonial expansion to the Appalachian ridge. This is arguably one of the causes of the Revolution.
I hope one day you can do Lafayette.
This Is America!
can't wait for vloggingthroughhistory to cover this (:
Poor guy, one of the worst cases of 'right place, wrong time' I've ever seen.
Imagine if America had simply gotten representation and the other colonies as well and then today Canada, the American colonies, Australia, New Zealand are all still ruled by the UK Parliament where they have representation
Australia never fought for independence but basically forced to. So US independence was going to happen one way or another, ttoghly likely would be a much smaller country.
Everything went south for North. 😳
Gotta point out that the colonies did pay taxes before, the thing is the taxes were collected by colonial governments and sent to London. What happened here is that the parliament started taxing colonists directly. Worse taxes like the Stamp Act had to be paid in British Pounds before you could buy a house, get married, bury a family member, send a letter, or even buy a deck of playing cards. The colonists didn't have British pounds, and most of the colonies had their own money at the time but you couldn't pay the tax in local money. For my fellow Americans, this would be like having to get physical Yaun notes to pay sales taxes and they've announced that banks are now only open on Monday 9 to 12pm. Now that act was repealed but it left a lot of lingering bad feelings.
Given that it's no wonder the colonists were a little cranky when the ships pulled into Boston.
Lord North was a bad Prime Minister but Justin Trudeau of Canada was like "Oh yeah... watch me!"
You should do a video on Calico Jack
Nobody talks about how the driving force behind the Boston tea party was wealthy smugglers trying to protect their own financial interests.
Loving Charles James Fox as a Dutch smuggler... War of the American Tax-Dodgers.
Soooo Funny Story the North family Estate Wroxton Abbey is actually an AMERICAN college campus under the name Wroxton College which is owned by my Alma Mater Fairleigh Dickinson University. The portrait of the subject of this video hangs on the grand staircase. So it was pretty ironic we got that too
North's policy went south rather quickly
The colonists were not permitted to pass the Appalachians, Britain didn’t want to bother the native allies there so they strongly discouraged it. The Seven Years War was like allowing your kid to buy an X-Box, then forbidding them from ever using it.