I thought I'd viewed ALL the detailer's channels at least ONCE, but not yours. I just happen to be a big rag company fan.... that's how I found you, glad I did. Good job.
Semper Fi. Thank you for your service no only to our great country but also for all your informative vids. If you're ever in NKY or the Cinicnnati area, please let me know. Would love to meet you. Keep up the great work, AJ.
great video I would love to see you working with the DA microfiber system from meguiars and give us your thoughts. I've used it and I found that it is good , but I would like to know your opinion as a Professional.
I completely agree with everything in this video. I've tried the microfiber and the same thing happened. It's creating swirls while "correcting" swirls. i.e. they don't work. The foam works every time no swirls no marring. Thanks.
AJ After doing a section pass you should clean the mf pad with compressed air. MF pads clean best with air. A cleaning brush will work to but not as effective as the compressed air.
i can see that patience and technique are your foundation! I lack a lot of both of those especially when I'm just aiming for production. you've inspired me though. subscribed for sure!!
+david meza Without any technique, you could be given the best equipment and products on planet earth and you will make NO progress. Technique is that important and it trumps product 365 days a year. Make sure that you join me over on my channel for more videos on that very subject. Thanks for watching. :)
Interesting that your results seem to contradict all the objective tests regarding the cutting speed of microfibre discs vs foam pads. Maybe the stiffer backing plate and the higher speeds of the foam could have been an effect or the stay detailer was masking the final results on the foam tests? Either way it doesn't matter because this was pretty anecdotal and I prefer to trust the numbers so to speak (or at least trust r+d lab testing over garage testing!)..... sweet video nonetheless!
Super late to this video...but my exact thoughts as well. Typically wool and microfiber run cooler too than a closed cell foam pad. I use microfiber pads all the time along with Griot's boss system and always a fast flawless finish. Also I feel your suppose to butter those pads a bit more than use smaller amounts to start other panels ...idk I'm just an advanced amateur lol 😂
OK, I was at first leaning towards the M105 to M205 using foam pads. Then did more research and found that when using a DA polisher, Mcguiars actually recommends going to the D300 compound and D302 Polish, BUT these are recommended to use with microfiber pads. Now I watch this video and I am totally lost again. What would you recommend for less cutting time, can I use the D300 with a foam pad even though McGuiars really recommends it for the microfiber? (or perhaps the microfiber Mcguiars uses is better at cutting than the ones you use here?).
rodney hawkins i use m105 and m205 with hexlogic foam pads with great results but like junkman says if you have a crap technique then you will get crap results just buy which ever compound pick up a 20buck fender of a car thats around 12years old and have a go you will soon find out there is nothing to be afraid of, now practice with which ever compound and polish and you will impress your self im sure as i was the same as you.
Don't get lost in the weeds. M105 and M205 may have been "supplanted" with more modern products, but they are known quantities. There's a lot of data out there on them, and most of that data has been with people using foam pads.
Meguiars, contacted me yesterday because i had same Question, They replied that i can use D300 Compound, D301 Polishing Wax and D302 Polish can be used with Foam Pads as well. The D series compound, Polish and Wax were designed for Microfiber pads, Do to Microfiber pads being a little more aggressive, they cut better and faster with the D Series Compound, Polish and Wax., To ansnwer your ? Yes you can use them with Foam pads, as well, but they will require a little more work and you wont get as faster results as you would with the Microfiber pads with the D series Compound, Polish and Wax. hope this helps :o)
@Robert Jay For a second I thought the same thing, and then noticed it...Don't mistake reflection for product. Watch 40 more of THE Junkman's vids in his garage light and you will see NO polish in the seams. Rinse and repeat.
The waffle design is just different. I prefer hex logic pads they seem to work a little faster yet still keep the product better distributed vs a flat foam pad.
Damn. I thought the orange was for light swirls and polish on new cars. Should I have gotten the blue pad? My 2015 silver wrx doesn't have many swirls or scratches
I have an 2015 Audi A3. Medium to slight dark blue metallic paint that has some very light swirl marks. Was going to use the Optimum Hyper polish spray and their black foam pad. Just ordered a PC7424XP. This will be my first time using a machine. I have watched your 6 video series on novice detailing. I will wash (two bucket method) then clay using meguiars clay bar then polish, then wax it. Sound like a plan? Thanks Junkman
Hey junkman,I see your using the PC 7424,I'm having heating problems with mine,backing plates gets really hot,it ruined two backing plates,any suggestions to solving this problem,thanks junkman
Love this video. Junkman, when you completed your first pass with the Microfiber pad, would it have made since to hit the pad with detail spray and continued polishing?
+Mp0wer If the polisher doesn't have forced rotation, it's just waste of money because you will magnify the problems that an under-powered orbital has unless you are using it on a perfectly flat surface. If it does have forced rotation (as in a dual-action polisher like the Flex 3401VRG), then it would be good to use on something like a very big object (large boat, RV or box truck). On a car, especially a small one, it's worthless. A novice should want as small of a throw as possible so that they can get the most out of perfecting their technique. Don't fall for every detailing gimmick that comes out. Manufacturers are constantly trying to figure out how to separate YOU and your money. If you truly understand what the size of a throw does as far as buffing is concerned, you can easily see the pitfalls as well as any advantages it gives you.
+Mp0wer Listen to the Junkman! I just bought the Rupes LHR15ES and Im not happy with it, its useless in small areas and in those with certain curves. I should have got the Flex 3401 instead.
+Junkman2000 Junkman, it's getting weird out there with all the marketing / hype around detailing products and tools. I can't tell you how many times I put my fancy, high dollar machine away in favor of the PC. Totally agree, trying to separate you from your money.
danlc95 And for those folks in the dark who fall for those gimmicks, they are giving away their hard earned bucks. That's why you hardly ever see me posting on forums that push that crap. Those vendors are either paying to be there or they own the forum and if you go against some of the crap they post, you'll end up getting banned. I stay away for that reason and preach all my sermons on my You Tube channel. Funny thing is, those companies are watching me and have tried to reach out to me in different ways. I always tell them if you want to buy me, it's going to cost you 6-figures. If you try to intimidate me then go screw yourself. They usually leave me alone after that. :)
Hey Junkman, what kind of quick detail spray did you use to remove the excess compound? There are many kinds of quick detail sprays on the market, some using sealant and waxes. Which one would you recommend to remove compound/polish residue with? Thanks.
@ 8:57 into the video, he has one of his oldtimer disease Moments LOL he forgot where the Camera was at and is speaking into the wrong side of camera. LOL I am getting their so i know what he is going through, :o), Great video, Thanks for the tips,
Actually, I was speaking into the main camera that I always use, however, there were multiple cameras on the set to cover different angles. The video editor decided to use the view from another camera because... he had the green light to edit any way he liked. :)
MF pad is known cut better than wavy foam pad. If you test result is the other way round means that you did not choose same condition parts for your test. Use bonnet with bigger surface will give you better result. And cut short your video, too long winded video!
"Now as you can see right here on the pad...." Camera zooms in on completely over exposed white pad with white polish in an alleged + shape on it. 😆😆😆😆
Junkman, I like your videos, which are very informative, but this video had me scratching my head. It was not up to par with your previous videos (i.e. did not follow your typical protocol). I found quite a few questionable things about this review, but one very obvious thing is you never showed a "before/after" closeup of the area worked which is something you've always done in your videos to prove your point and to let the viewer see and judge for themselves. Why not this time?
Nice try, but Optimum doesn't supply ME with anything free. The reason that I didn't show a before and after was because the difference was not significant enough to see on film. I usually use a car that is jacked up beyond all repair. This car was not in that condition and it was the darkest color car that I had access to.
Hey Junkman, what kind of quick detail spray did you use to remove the excess compound? There are many kinds of quick detail sprays on the market, some using sealant and waxes. Which one would you recommend to remove compound/polish residue with? Thanks.
I have a ton of Infinite Use Detail Juice in my garage to use. But in reality, it doesn't matter who's detail spray you use. Detail spray is detail spray. Now cost factor is a different story.
What do you think of using something like CarPro Eraser or some other kind of IPA mixtures to remove compound/polishing residue? Would that be a better alternative then using a quick detail spray? I'm just a weekend warrior, but I'll leaning away from using a quick detail spray because it may hide defects as your compounding/polishing the vehicle. I think IPA or CarPro Eraser will do a better job of cleaning away the polishing residue giving you a better view of your results. Thoughts?
Monkey Kiss Thoughts? Yea, you're trying to make this rocket science. First, detail sprays don't "hide" anything. They ain't nothing but a VERY light cleaning agent in a bottle. You could make your own. Second, you can take a bottle of alcohol and mix it with 50% distilled water and make your own IPA. Quit overthinking this stuff man. It's NOT that complicated or needs to be that expensive. Have you seen most detailers today? They don't look like they are on the verge of splitting atoms do they? If this hobby was that complicated, I wouldn't waste my time at it. I like playing one type of video game. First person shooters. The kind where you kill anything that moves, screw the strategy. If I have to think while playing the game, I toss it in the trash.
LOL Rocket science? Nahh, just researching the best way to get things done. I don't want to be chasing my tail, so I ask questions. I have Meguiar's Quick Detailer spary and it states at the back of the bottle "The safe, high lubricity formula....while enhancing gloss and protection". The "enhancing gloss" part concerns me. I don't want to be "enhancing gloss" when compounding the clear coat. I want to remove polish residue so I can better inspect my progress and final result. Maybe I'm overthinking this stuff, but as a newbie I'm still learning. The CarPro Eraser cost as much as any detail spray. Why not bring out the big guns and use a product that will actually break down polish residue? Screw the strategy? Come on, that's the fun part. Don't tell me you never enjoyed a good game of Risk growing up. :)
Monkey Kiss I never played Risk. Couldn't afford anything but checkers. As for what your Meguiar's bottle of detail spray says, they are blowing smoke. Pretty much all of that over the counter garbage claims to do something that it doesn't. Don't believe the hype. Use the cheapest stuff you can find and don't expect it to do anything but be a clay lube or a pad spritzer.
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still a treat in 2022. missed your videos
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to perform this comparison. It cleared up a lot of questions for me.
I thought I'd viewed ALL the detailer's channels at least ONCE, but not yours. I just happen to be a big rag company fan.... that's how I found you, glad I did. Good job.
Semper Fi. Thank you for your service no only to our great country but also for all your informative vids. If you're ever in NKY or the Cinicnnati area, please let me know. Would love to meet you. Keep up the great work, AJ.
Hey Junkman, were you in heaven with all those towels around you? Great work as usual.
great video
I would love to see you working with the DA microfiber system from meguiars and give us your thoughts.
I've used it and I found that it is good , but I would like to know your opinion as a Professional.
I completely agree with everything in this video. I've tried the microfiber and the same thing happened. It's creating swirls while "correcting" swirls. i.e. they don't work. The foam works every time no swirls no marring. Thanks.
AJ
After doing a section pass you should clean the mf pad with compressed air. MF pads clean best with air. A cleaning brush will work to but not as effective as the compressed air.
Thank you for taking the time and showing us the process Junkman. Great video and detail. We appreciate it.
that’s not fair, the area around the door knob has more scratches due to it being handled the most
If you close your eyes and listen to his voice, he is a dead ringer for Dave chapelle.
People keep saying that! Lol!
+Junkman2000 Well if it's on the Internet then it must be true. haha
Michael Hinchey
LOL!
Man, I've been trying to think of who he sounded like for a week.
Wow, I been watching his videos for a couple years and never noticed that. Now its _all_ I hear when I hear his voice. I can't un-hear that 😂😂
i can see that patience and technique are your foundation! I lack a lot of both of those especially when I'm just aiming for production. you've inspired me though. subscribed for sure!!
+david meza Without any technique, you could be given the best equipment and products on planet earth and you will make NO progress. Technique is that important and it trumps product 365 days a year. Make sure that you join me over on my channel for more videos on that very subject. Thanks for watching. :)
Interesting that your results seem to contradict all the objective tests regarding the cutting speed of microfibre discs vs foam pads. Maybe the stiffer backing plate and the higher speeds of the foam could have been an effect or the stay detailer was masking the final results on the foam tests? Either way it doesn't matter because this was pretty anecdotal and I prefer to trust the numbers so to speak (or at least trust r+d lab testing over garage testing!)..... sweet video nonetheless!
Super late to this video...but my exact thoughts as well. Typically wool and microfiber run cooler too than a closed cell foam pad. I use microfiber pads all the time along with Griot's boss system and always a fast flawless finish. Also I feel your suppose to butter those pads a bit more than use smaller amounts to start other panels ...idk I'm just an advanced amateur lol 😂
OK, I was at first leaning towards the M105 to M205 using foam pads. Then did more research and found that when using a DA polisher, Mcguiars actually recommends going to the D300 compound and D302 Polish, BUT these are recommended to use with microfiber pads. Now I watch this video and I am totally lost again. What would you recommend for less cutting time, can I use the D300 with a foam pad even though McGuiars really recommends it for the microfiber? (or perhaps the microfiber Mcguiars uses is better at cutting than the ones you use here?).
rodney hawkins i use m105 and m205 with hexlogic foam pads with great results but like junkman says if you have a crap technique then you will get crap results just buy which ever compound pick up a 20buck fender of a car thats around 12years old and have a go you will soon find out there is nothing to be afraid of, now practice with which ever compound and polish and you will impress your self im sure as i was the same as you.
Don't get lost in the weeds. M105 and M205 may have been "supplanted" with more modern products, but they are known quantities. There's a lot of data out there on them, and most of that data has been with people using foam pads.
rodney hawkins I see compound in the edges of the handle while you say notice no polish is on the handle???
Meguiars, contacted me yesterday because i had same Question, They replied that i can use D300 Compound, D301 Polishing Wax and D302 Polish can be used with Foam Pads as well. The D series compound, Polish and Wax were designed for Microfiber pads, Do to Microfiber pads being a little more aggressive, they cut better and faster with the D Series Compound, Polish and Wax.,
To ansnwer your ? Yes you can use them with Foam pads, as well, but they will require a little more work and you wont get as faster results as you would with the Microfiber pads with the D series Compound, Polish and Wax. hope this helps :o)
@Robert Jay
For a second I thought the same thing, and then noticed it...Don't mistake reflection for product. Watch 40 more of THE Junkman's vids in his garage light and you will see NO polish in the seams. Rinse and repeat.
There were boxes and boxes on top of boxes of them. I could have made me an Eagle Edgeless jumper with the footies in them with all those towels! Lol!
Très bien 👍, je suis français donc je n'ai pas tout bien compris ! 😉. Pour vous le meilleurs est microfibre où foam pad ? Thanks
Does the waffle design make a difference vs flat foam pads like Meguires?
The waffle design is just different. I prefer hex logic pads they seem to work a little faster yet still keep the product better distributed vs a flat foam pad.
Def. not a junkman in his garage production with all that fancy editing hehe ;) great vid as always :)
Damn. I thought the orange was for light swirls and polish on new cars. Should I have gotten the blue pad? My 2015 silver wrx doesn't have many swirls or scratches
The orange pad is a cutting pad. With the Optimum line, the blue pad is the cutting pad.
Semper Fi! Thank you for the great video Marine!
I have an 2015 Audi A3. Medium to slight dark blue metallic paint that has some very light swirl marks. Was going to use the Optimum Hyper polish spray and their black foam pad. Just ordered a PC7424XP. This will be my first time using a machine. I have watched your 6 video series on novice detailing.
I will wash (two bucket method) then clay using meguiars clay bar then polish, then wax it.
Sound like a plan?
Thanks Junkman
Those sound like the proper steps but the question is how much did you pay attention to *everything* I said and how good is your technique.
Quel est la marque de vos foam pads ?
"Don't make it complicated" Made my day. Great video. Tkanks.
+1swimr Knocked me right down to size. Lol!
Junkman, if you were using a more powerful machine( rupes), do you still have to go as slow ?
tutchngoes yes the speed is the key no matter what machine. Slow = way to go!!!
The Rupes isn't more powerful, it's just MORE EXPENSIVE.
Hey junkman,I see your using the PC 7424,I'm having heating problems with mine,backing plates gets really hot,it ruined two backing plates,any suggestions to solving this problem,thanks junkman
h1989w7373 do you have the correct extension cord, per the manual?
That's what happens when you use the wrong gauge extension cord.
ngl this my first time seeing a black person doing a detailing video , great job sir !!
Love this video. Junkman, when you completed your first pass with the Microfiber pad, would it have made since to hit the pad with detail spray and continued polishing?
The way microfiber works and foam works are different. You only spritz a pad when there is enough polish on the pad to be revived.
if you're using products with deteriorating abrasives, there is no reviving it. Know how and why your products work.
Hey Junkman, I'm curious if you had the chance to try one of those 21mm long throw polishers and what your thoughts were...great video
+Mp0wer If the polisher doesn't have forced rotation, it's just waste of money because you will magnify the problems that an under-powered orbital has unless you are using it on a perfectly flat surface. If it does have forced rotation (as in a dual-action polisher like the Flex 3401VRG), then it would be good to use on something like a very big object (large boat, RV or box truck). On a car, especially a small one, it's worthless. A novice should want as small of a throw as possible so that they can get the most out of perfecting their technique.
Don't fall for every detailing gimmick that comes out. Manufacturers are constantly trying to figure out how to separate YOU and your money. If you truly understand what the size of a throw does as far as buffing is concerned, you can easily see the pitfalls as well as any advantages it gives you.
+Mp0wer Listen to the Junkman! I just bought the Rupes LHR15ES and Im not happy with it, its useless in small areas and in those with certain curves. I should have got the Flex 3401 instead.
TrevorGoodchild999
And there you go. Someone who is speaking from experience.
+Junkman2000 Junkman, it's getting weird out there with all the marketing / hype around detailing products and tools. I can't tell you how many times I put my fancy, high dollar machine away in favor of the PC.
Totally agree, trying to separate you from your money.
danlc95
And for those folks in the dark who fall for those gimmicks, they are giving away their hard earned bucks. That's why you hardly ever see me posting on forums that push that crap. Those vendors are either paying to be there or they own the forum and if you go against some of the crap they post, you'll end up getting banned. I stay away for that reason and preach all my sermons on my You Tube channel. Funny thing is, those companies are watching me and have tried to reach out to me in different ways. I always tell them if you want to buy me, it's going to cost you 6-figures. If you try to intimidate me then go screw yourself.
They usually leave me alone after that. :)
Hey Junkman, what kind of quick detail spray did you use to remove the excess compound? There are many kinds of quick detail sprays on the market, some using sealant and waxes. Which one would you recommend to remove compound/polish residue with? Thanks.
Monkey Kiss if you watch his channel, he loves to use "Gary Dean's detail juice" because a little goes a long way.
Thanks Junkman always great info on your videos
+Jorge Braga Thanks for checking them out Jorge. :)
great vids Junkman!
Would you please list what you use below video.
I don't think everything that I used was or is available to the public.
Okay. Thanks anyway.
very kewl video. thanks for making it simple for me!!!
+Paul Layman Thanks for watching. :)
you said eggshell, but I think you meant egg crate. just picking at ya I know you are very knowledgeable about what you do lol
The junkman has fallen out of love with his zaino borderless blonde towels!!!! :o :o :o
No, I just have another towel that is just as good and it stays IN STOCK!
Great video bro
Great video
+gtsdesigns Thanks for watching. :)
@ 8:57 into the video, he has one of his oldtimer disease Moments LOL he forgot where the Camera was at and is speaking into the wrong side of camera. LOL I am getting their so i know what he is going through, :o),
Great video, Thanks for the tips,
Actually, I was speaking into the main camera that I always use, however, there were multiple cameras on the set to cover different angles. The video editor decided to use the view from another camera because... he had the green light to edit any way he liked. :)
There are multiple cameras filming
Good video
good video my brotha
MF pad is known cut better than wavy foam pad. If you test result is the other way round means that you did not choose same condition parts for your test. Use bonnet with bigger surface will give you better result. And cut short your video, too long winded video!
Thankyou Sir!
Door knob, haha, u got to love it!!!
"Now as you can see right here on the pad...."
Camera zooms in on completely over exposed white pad with white polish in an alleged + shape on it. 😆😆😆😆
Junkman, I like your videos, which are very informative, but this video had me scratching my head. It was not up to par with your previous videos (i.e. did not follow your typical protocol). I found quite a few questionable things about this review, but one very obvious thing is you never showed a "before/after" closeup of the area worked which is something you've always done in your videos to prove your point and to let the viewer see and judge for themselves. Why not this time?
Methodical2 kick backs from the foam head suppliers.
Nice try, but Optimum doesn't supply ME with anything free.
The reason that I didn't show a before and after was because the difference was not significant enough to see on film. I usually use a car that is jacked up beyond all repair. This car was not in that condition and it was the darkest color car that I had access to.
Yes!!!! The Junkman!!!!
+danlc95 Hey, hey, hey!
Nice
I love black people.
Inconsistent comparison/test...
What was inconsistent? Explain your comment.
aw yeeeesss
Semper Fi!!!
Nices video
Hey Junkman, what kind of quick detail spray did you use to remove the excess compound? There are many kinds of quick detail sprays on the market, some using sealant and waxes. Which one would you recommend to remove compound/polish residue with? Thanks.
I have a ton of Infinite Use Detail Juice in my garage to use. But in reality, it doesn't matter who's detail spray you use. Detail spray is detail spray. Now cost factor is a different story.
What do you think of using something like CarPro Eraser or some other kind of IPA mixtures to remove compound/polishing residue? Would that be a better alternative then using a quick detail spray?
I'm just a weekend warrior, but I'll leaning away from using a quick detail spray because it may hide defects as your compounding/polishing the vehicle. I think IPA or CarPro Eraser will do a better job of cleaning away the polishing residue giving you a better view of your results. Thoughts?
Monkey Kiss
Thoughts? Yea, you're trying to make this rocket science. First, detail sprays don't "hide" anything. They ain't nothing but a VERY light cleaning agent in a bottle. You could make your own. Second, you can take a bottle of alcohol and mix it with 50% distilled water and make your own IPA. Quit overthinking this stuff man. It's NOT that complicated or needs to be that expensive. Have you seen most detailers today? They don't look like they are on the verge of splitting atoms do they? If this hobby was that complicated, I wouldn't waste my time at it. I like playing one type of video game. First person shooters. The kind where you kill anything that moves, screw the strategy. If I have to think while playing the game, I toss it in the trash.
LOL Rocket science? Nahh, just researching the best way to get things done. I don't want to be chasing my tail, so I ask questions.
I have Meguiar's Quick Detailer spary and it states at the back of the bottle "The safe, high lubricity formula....while enhancing gloss and protection". The "enhancing gloss" part concerns me. I don't want to be "enhancing gloss" when compounding the clear coat. I want to remove polish residue so I can better inspect my progress and final result.
Maybe I'm overthinking this stuff, but as a newbie I'm still learning. The CarPro Eraser cost as much as any detail spray. Why not bring out the big guns and use a product that will actually break down polish residue?
Screw the strategy? Come on, that's the fun part. Don't tell me you never enjoyed a good game of Risk growing up. :)
Monkey Kiss
I never played Risk. Couldn't afford anything but checkers. As for what your Meguiar's bottle of detail spray says, they are blowing smoke. Pretty much all of that over the counter garbage claims to do something that it doesn't. Don't believe the hype. Use the cheapest stuff you can find and don't expect it to do anything but be a clay lube or a pad spritzer.