Can the new Rupes microfiber pads dethrone Meguiar's?!
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
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We have been using Meguiar's DMC microfiber pads during our compounding stage for nearly a decade now. With their updated microfiber pad design, the new Rupes microfiber pads can equal (and even surpassed) the DMC pads to become our new favorite in the shop!
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Is not the pads but who's behind the pads. 20 years of experience can't let me down when I claim this.
@@PREDATOR07 It's a combination of tools, products, and technique. If just one of those is missing, then results will suffer accordingly.
@@Esotericdetail I respect the channel and obviously all the content. I hope my comment wasn't took wrongly, you guys are one of my first sources when having issues specially detailing interiors. I'm good buffing and polishing since only Rv's we do.
Todd,you can ship all of the old Meguiars pads my way..😆👍
Is not the pads but who's behind the pads.😎
Outstanding review Todd. We are of course proud and happy to hear your comments about our new MF pads. They are all cutters in the true sense of the word. The UltraFine White MF has AMAZING range of cut, and finishes like foam. It is becoming my new favorite pad, personally.
Straight from the source, folks! Glad you enjoyed the video review...
Excellent work Todd!! Excited to try them.
Great video and information! Haven't tried these yet but looking forward to using them.
This is huge. Thanks for the insight and update, Todd 👍🏽
Thank you!!
I have been absolutely blown away with these pads. Each one can be used as a one step in most scenarios.
Very good breakdown on the new pads. Thanks
Thank you...glad you liked it!
Yes indeed very knowledgeable and straightforward. Just watching this already made me comfortable on this pads 😆
Excellent video as always. You answered all of my questions before I could ask them. Thank you.
Well then I guess that means we think alike!
Tod is the best. Not only does he have the answers but he explains everything so well it draws you in to the very end of the video! Thank you Tod for being the best at what you do.
Listening via headphones while I rotary some contours using a trusty Dewalt, meguiars red and white wool pad and M100. Finishing with Rupes 21, Rupes Yellow foam and again M100 finishes really well on harder paints. Do love me some Rupes wool discs on some heavy cut projects. You know it when you need it.
Excellent explanation!!Ty
Appreciate the explanation on how the pads are different!
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed the presentation.
I'm excited to put these to the test.
Todd. Thanks for bringing these pads to the US. I can’t wait to try them. Do you think you could do a video showing the results of each pad? Or maybe a comparison with the Meguiar’s?
I like the idea, but honestly don't know what it would really show, particularly since there are so many variables of paint types, paint conditions, etc, etc. Both the compounding pads (blue and yellow) are going to show "full correction", with different haze levels that will be hard to show on camera. As soon as I do that, I'd have a bunch of people chiming in: "yeah, but you didn't do it on "x" type of paint, or "y" type of defects.
@@Esotericdetail I see your point about people complaining. Maybe if you used a test hood or something similar. Just a thought.
Hi Todd, love your concise explanations. If you had to pick between Rupes' blue wool pad and yellow microfiber pad as your go-to compounding pad, which one would you pick?
Great point about the blue MF pad. I was turned off as to how to stiff it is for contouring purposes. Good to know the yellow is still very capable!
Yeah, the naming of them is a bit "off" in my opinion, but the yellow is definitely the go-to compounding pad.
Excellent review, Todd!
You obviously prefer these to the Rupes Wool pads. What was it about the wool pads that kept them from taking that top spot?
Consistency. I would rather have a product that ranks an 8 all of the time as opposed to one that can rank 9 on some paints, but just a 6 or 7 on others.
@@Esotericdetail - I love it! Thank you!
I haven’t tried the microfiber pads but the Rupes Wool pads are definitely a game changer, one question do those wool pads really stay more cool than foam and microfiber?? I’ve heard they’re really good at staying cool!
They stay a bit cooler, but if you're using the MF pads correctly, you're not worried about getting up to the levels of temperatures that it's an issue. So for us, running "cool" doesn't make any difference in what we do, or how we evaluate them. It's all about how well they work new, how well they work after several months, what kind of finish they can achieve, and how consistent they are across all paint types.
Awesome video,Todd..I definitely need these pads..Question.. What would I use if I wanted to remove my old ceramic coating?
Glad you liked it. Most of the time a solid one-step polish is all you need to do.
Todd, could you post a pic or video of what a pad looks like when you feel it should be discarded? I sometimes argue with myself about whether I am tossing pads too early and wasting money.
It's not always going to be based off of "looks". Most of the time you just know because the cut and / or finish isn't as good as newer ones.
Todd I like your Tudor Pepsi gmt ! Keep up the great content
Thanks, and glad you like the content. I also have a Rolex GMT Master II and swap them out each week. They're both fantastic but have a completely different feel to them as the Tudor is larger and heavier.
@@Esotericdetail ah so Todd has both the GMT Master and the Tudor GMT, that explains why the watches can looks slightly different in some videos.
So far all of the new Rupes foam and wool pads have been amazing. Ill have to try these as well. I love their compounds as well. It seems like the Rupes stuff has become my go to.
Great video
How many car you use the pad before broken?
Rupes or Zvizzer mate, best polish on the market at the moment 👌🏻
Good video bud. Have you found the cut hole in the middle of pad delivers a cooler running pad in comparison to meguiars, increasing durability and cut performance? Seems like a no brainer to switch. Right tool for the job Cheers!
We've never had problems with overheating on the Meguiar's pad, so it's not something that we would pay close attention to. In theory it might run cooler? Thanks, and glad you liked the video.
Hi Todd. Thanks for the very informative video. Quick question. Would you say the yellow Rupes pad is equivalent to the DMC pad from Meguiars?
Yes, that's a good comparison.
Hi Todd, Great videos and really enjoying the channel. I have a couple GM vehicles to do paint correction on both with very light defects (2018 black paint, 2022 grey paint). I understand this clearcoat and paint is relatively soft. You're recommending Rupes yellow foam and maybe white foam ultra fine for finishing on these applications? Could a yellow or white Rupes wool pad work well also if necessary? Thanks
Thank you! As always, you won't know the exact process until you can do some test sections on the vehicles. The black paint in particular will definitely take a lesser aggressive approach, particularly on finishing. Chances are, foam will be the only way to properly finish that black paint in particular.
This is very interesting. I know what I’d order once I ran out of my Megs MF pads! Curious to know though, how would you stack these against Rupes’ corresponding colored wool pads? Would u say these cut slightly less but offer better finishing potential for example?
The wool pads are good, but they're not as consistent across as many paint types as the microfiber pads are. I've found some that they (wool) work ridiculously well on, and others not so much. I want consistency, and as few choices / variables in the shop as possible.
@@Esotericdetail that’s very clear and valuable explanation, thank you! I believe I’m experiencing the same thing with their wool pads too especially in soft and sticky Japanese paints.
Excellent video Todd. How do these compare to the Lake Country microfibre pads?
This is what I’d like to know, but doubt we’ll get an answer. They don’t deal with lake country. Lake county is a phenomenal brand, but Im willing to try these new Rupes pads.
Tried them before, and didn't find them to be as consistent as the Meguiar's MF pads.
Thanks for the info 👍
Hi Todd. I recently bought the collection of the these pads and the Rupes compound collection also to use with color coordination. When using the yellow pad with yellow Rupes compound with my Rupes machine on speed 4. I got this effect of the product burnt on to the paint. Working a 2x2 section. Thank you in advance.
Sounds like it got over-worked and the panel over-heated. Try changing up your technique a bit...pressure, amount of passes, amount of product, etc.
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Hi Todd, I've only recently had to tear the packaging off the Rupes Blue Wool pad after what felt like banging my head against the wall with all manor of different foam pads. I thought I had the answer for BMW Ceramic paint but now you've thrown a spanner in the works. Is it possible to say which one would be used over the other?
I find the microfiber pads to have more consistency across more paint types. You may find some paints where the wool works "better", but others not as much. I want a pad that works really well, all of the time, regardless of paint.
How are these compared to the Lake Country microfiber lineup? Also where are the 2" pads?
Part of my issue with these is while I have all Rupea pada currently, that's because they offer them in all sizes. I run 5", 3", and 2" pads. It sort of sucks thet don't offer their microfiber in the 2" size...while other brands do.
Hi Todd ! I was wondering if by any chance are you the instructor that teaches people how to detail in Fort Worth,Florida? If so, I am very interested of taking the three day course somewhere around January, or February of 2023.
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The mark buss ! Thanks to JR and the team for delivering much need line up. Much thanks to you Todd and Esoteric team for binging this one to us.
Does the rupes microfiber has the same diameter as the meguiars DMC5 and DMC6.
I haven't measured, but they look pretty much the same.
I have csl/exo on my car for a year now (2021 Bmw), i see some swerls here and there, i wanna fresh it up and reapply exo, i have prefect finish and yellow+white new rupes pad, wich one do you recommend? Thx
Which pads are for a one step correction ? Also Could the car be compounded and then finish with something like Rupes uno protect if the customer wants it cheaper without coating?
Probably wool medium
I'd switch them out after every panel. And I recommend air blowing them out with air even during each section not just after, no more haze. I just hope that the fibres in the centre don't fray and same for the outside edge of the pads which when they do they expose that sharp edge of white material under the microfibre which some competitors wool and microfibre pads do and can scour paint. I'd like microfibre to be fully wrapped around the sides of the pad like a foam pad is so the sharp edges are covered. The centre hole is good but for better cooling some 6-8mm holes around the centre hole like the Americana foam pads, I found that there's heat still building up one to two inches away from the centre hole.
Bro which is good for panel im using a foam pad for all car im polishing can you help me which one is good because my campany using polytop brand works is good but i want more quickly and like one time polish microfiber pad is good?
We have not found this to be an issue with our design Matthew. And the liquid compound used has a big influence over what you are referring to....meaning...fiber wear, temperature, and edge performance can not really be evaluated without factoring in important contributors like liquid compound and technique.
sehr gutes Video 👍meine Frage gehört cosmic spritz zu ihren Favoriten ? will es nämlich mal ausprobieren. Gruß Waldemar schaffrat.
Yes, Cosmic is one of my all-time favorites!
@@Esotericdetail ich danke Ihnen. welches schampo empfehlen sie um cosmic spritz zu pflegen.
Gruß Waldemar schaffrat
aus Dortmund ( Deutschland. )
Todd, what works better microfibre pads or wool pads , does it depend on the paint that im working with?
Too many variables to give a definitive answer, but for us, which one is more consistent across all paint types is what's most important, and that would be the microfiber.
With this wool line up when do you recommend to use those versus foam line up ?
The only one in question would be the white finishing mf pad. If you need anything more aggressive than a yellow polishing pad, then you're reaching for either the yellow or blue microfiber pads...not anything from the foam lineup. But if you're doing a one-step or a finish polishing job, you'd need to do test sections with a yellow rupes foam and compare to the white microfiber to see what's going to give you the better results you're looking for.
Will you guys still use the standard foam pads or will these or can these be a direct replacement for the standard foam pad?
Foam pads for us will be limited to polishing (one-step for instance), or for finishing. If we need something more aggressive than a polishing pad, then we are using a compounding pad like the yellow one in this lineup, then following that up with a polishing / finishing foam pad. As for the new white MF pads, we need to play with them some more to see if it would be a preferred pad for one-steps, or if we stay with their yellow polishing pad.
@@Esotericdetail exactly what I was looking for thanks.
What’s the benefit foam vs microfiber.
I color sand and buff tons, and I use the 3m foam pads. Just now getting into the polishing process.
Microfiber is so much more efficient in cutting, both in time and effectiveness. Foam pads should still be used for the last polishing stages to remove hazing caused by microfiber pads.
Sir what your recomend for black color and like one time polishing pad because our company using polytop foam pad for rotary machine work is good but easy to broke the pads like one car per session i need faster remove swirl and heavy cutting and also rupes pads can use other brands of compound tnx you i hope you give answer im new subscriber more power to you.
With these types of questions, it sounds like you would be a good candidate for our new online training that we will be launching in the next few days. Please watch for our video announcement very soon for more details!
If rupes buys this in bulk amazing
So Todd really starting to like 3d one if I use a yellow microfiber pad and 3d on ford black paint? Thanks learn a lot from you guys
We don't use 3d pads, so I can't say...
@@Esotericdetail sorry my bad 3d one polish
@@kingranch8516 Don't use that either. You'd simply need to try it out to see what kind of results you're going to get. If you're looking for a one-step solution, most likely no. If you're looking for this as your compounding stage, followed by a finish polishing stage, then yes.
@@Esotericdetail great thank
Boss which one is the best for one step and quickly remove scratches and swirl I hope you reply my question because my company is using foam pad polytop works is good. But i need quicker to remove scratches and swirl or defect more power to you sir
One-step polishing isn't for removing of scratches. The one-step will get your light to medium defects. If you want scratch removal, you will need to do a multi-stage process. If you go aggressive enough to remove scratches, you will be left with haziness in the finish.
@@Esotericdetail which one you recommend for scratches and swirl pad? Foam or microfiber pad for defects im using hologram compound you have any contact Facebook or Instagram then will show you my concern tnx you happy new year
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So is the microfiber itself the same between the 3 (or at least yellow vs. blue) and the foam interface different?
That was covered in the video. They each have their own unique type of MF, plus the foam interface has different density as well.
@@Esotericdetail Thanks! Must've missed that point.
@@TeaBubblez My pleasure. I knew going into the video that would be something a lot of people would want to know.
Great pad I live in Hollywood Florida were can I get the machine nd pad near me
You're not going to find these at retail locations. We ship daily, and could have it down to you in a few days. www.esotericcarcare.com
I have a brand new 2023 suburban is black what microfiber pad and compound should I use . 2 step as well thanks
Sounds like some deep-dive learning is needed, and would therefore recommend that you look into our new ONLINE training program at: www.esotericdetail.com/education
What works better on freshly baked spies hecker clear to polish out 2000/3000?
You'd have to do test sections for a proper comparison, but for that you might want to go with their blue MF pad.
So would you use the blue compound polish with the yellow pad ?
That would be the most natural selection if using Rupes compounds.
How do they compare to the Buff n shine URO micro fiber pads?
The Meguiar's and the Rupes MF pads are the most consistent pads we've ever used or tested.
@@Esotericdetail thanks. I just ordered a Rupes to try.
how long does it take on average for 2 steps polish?
Depends on a lot of factors, really. When doing a true multi-step correction though, it typically starts at about 8 hours and goes up from there. For more detailed information, please check out our new ONLINE training program at: www.esotericdetail.com/education
Do you think they’ll offer these in 1” for the Nano?
Hard to say...time will tell!
Yeah. Kinda wish they came out with 2 inch pads
Is there a link to these pads? I couldnt find them
www.esotericcarcare.com/rupes-da-fine-microfiber-polishing-pad/
@@Esotericdetail ordered a bunch, thank you
@@cpb3958 Thank you for your business!
Todd, you ever try the Griot's MF pads?
At one time I did, and they didn't provide the performance I was looking for.
@@Esotericdetail Thanks
Anything you can say about durability yet?
We haven't had them that long, so can't really speak about that until after 3 or 4 months...
After using yellow MF pad, what should I polish with? Or just use yellow MF pad and wipe with MF towel and you are done ?
Could you please demo these pads
I like the idea, but honestly don't know what it would really show, particularly since there are so many variables of paint types, paint conditions, etc, etc. Both the compounding pads (blue and yellow) are going to show "full correction", with different haze levels that will be hard to show on camera. As soon as I do that, I'd have a bunch of people chiming in: "yeah, but you didn't do it on "x" type of paint, or "y" type of defects.
Do you guys get pad stall on rupes lhr 15?
No. It's all in the technique!
@@Esotericdetail I’ve been trying to get used to it, and blowing out pads with compressed air isn’t as easy since it doesn’t free spin like my old polisher, just need more time to get used to. 🙏🏻
@@blkfxbb327 Put an M8 washer between the backing plate, and where it mounts to the machine. This spacer allows it to free spin.
@@Esotericdetail 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Lake Country HDO microfibres pads blue cut or orange one step for me at the moment the best one.have to try new rupes and compare with LC.Good job👌Many thanks 😃
How many cars before broken that pad?
@@dennisarcega837
does not understand the question. but if you mean how many cars have I broken? then my answer is simple. zero cars., but I broke a few test panels like everyone who started detailing🤪
@@mmcarspani1623 bro that pad if you use how many times im planing to try the rupes microfiber did you try already the microfiber pad?
6:17 these pads have holes for bolt. back-plate has velcro which will scratch clear, when pad gets pressed that much.
especially when run over contour.
A foam pad with a hole in it is less dense, which means it would have a far greater chance of this happening. Having used open-holed Rupes pads and polishers for a decade now, I have never once had it happen, or heard of it happening. Therefore...it's a non-issue.
I’ve tried them up but I have to say I’m disappointed, although I’ve been a rupees fan for years. Problem with them is they not durable at all and not cost effective at all, Lake country pads do the job way better and they really can take a of abuse
What speed are you using them at?
@@Esotericdetail 4 in general
@@cartradediary6131 Interesting as we have had zero reliability issues. Are you changing them out after every panel or two? What is your wash process like for the pads after use?
Don’t run it over 5 , if so they will blow up!
There's no need with any pads to run over speed 5. Speed 4.5 is what you should be using at least 95% of the time!
You can* with meguiar’s is all I’m saying both are good. But what I will say if* you run these pads over as you say 4.5. They will not last.
All he’s going to recommend is whatever he sells I’ve not even watched the video I’m out
He promotes and sells the products he believes in thats all. It wont be in his arsenal and store if it didn’t met his standards.
You have us confused with others who use what they sell, whereas we sell what we use...huge difference. Also, we are first and foremost a very busy and successful detailing business which gives us a lot of opportunity to test and evaluate a lot of products and techniques, and to determine what gives us the best and most consistent results. People ship their cars in from all over the country specifically for these results. So then, once we establish what works best for us with the most consistent results, we then see if we can offer them to the detailing community.
@@vincentmiano342 Well said.
Paid shill for Rupes.