No issues with the rear shocks over here in Europe (Netherlands) I often ride with my wife on the back. No issues. Also the exhaust on mine doesn’t do the back fire thing. Also, the seat on my bike is totally different than yours. Also, the screen on mine is not so flimsy as yours, no issues. Fuel cap also gets stick on mine. But I can see what the issue is, so I will try and sort that out. No issues with front forks at all on my bike. Yup, glove box is also flimsy on my bike. Tires on my bike are excellent. No issues at all. These bikes are not fitted for sport riding, but for commuting. So they have harder tires. Over all, I would say that your bike has been built to a lower budget than European bikes.
Different countries are getting different types of tyres.... Mine is fitted with some cheap-skate ones too... Its wobbles when on road lines and especially during rain... Just gotto be extra careful... That's all... If not happy with it... Just change it.... Coz to the manufacturers / assemblers / importers.... Every dime matters...
The fuel flap sticking is easily remedied. It is a common thing with Forzas. Just press the 'fuel' button and at the same time press the bodywork a couple of inches above the flap. Then it will open. Works with mine anyway.
About the steering wobbling when decelerating, do the following: Remove the top case and do a test ride alone, don't take a passenger with you, neither the top case. If it still wobbles, then the cause is the rear Racing Boy's shock absorbers. Since they're softer than the originals, they're letting the back of the bike to dive and the front wheel is not getting enough traction... so you should talk with Racing Boy about that, maybe they can borrow you an upgraded front fork springs (which normally are stiffer than the originals), that might solve your steering wobbling problem... Please keep us posted about the result.
Over got the new honda forza three fifty cc and I don't find any problems with wobble on the front forks when coming of the power or dropping the speed from 80 mph to zero.
Hello, from Greece! I plan to change my rear shocks with yss in a few months, because I also find them a little stiff. I hope the yss are a good choice. My exhaust doesn't do the back fire sound you mention, but it does make a flapping sound when I increase the throttle, which I find a little bit annoying. Probably will change it too in a few months.The quality of the seat is much better with mine I think, but I also plan to change it soon, and also use a better foam material for the inside. Fuel cap, no problems, but I 've traveled only 1500 km so far. My forza came with pirelli tyres, and I have no issue with them whatsoever. Great video! I like your style!
I got one of the last 300 cc Forzas the year they upgraded the engine to 350. Same body with a Givi box on the back too. I am 5’11” and 100 kilos, but haven’t had any of the problems you cited, either in city here in Rayong, or driving cross country on the expressways. I think it is a great machine, but I treat it as a cruiser, not a sport bike. However, I would agree with you that the kick stand would benefit from maybe another inch or so in length.
I thought my European Forza 350 had a better seat cover until I let it sit in the full sun for an hour and the seat cover became as flexible as in the video. I guess it's the same seat cover in Thailand except it's always hot there making it flexible all the time.
Yep, it is not the same as European version, much better quality for Europe that's for sure, seat is better looking totally different from yours, rear shocks are good, the screen is secured doesn't wobble, don't have any problems with the fuel cap for now, tires are excellent on my bike, they are Michelin City Grip 2, and don't have any speed wobbles, I can let my hands down and the bike goes straight down the road (maybe it's your top case I see it is not the original one, try cruising without it) hope they fix your problems, cheers mate!
A great review thanks. I test rode a Forza 350 in the UK. Horrible jarring rear suspension. Lovely smooth engine. Useless screen. Great storage. Riding position feels cramped compared to my Burgman 400. Very economical and 8k mile service intervals is a real bonus. Super-expensive Honda accessories though - to add a top-box and heated grips costs over £1000!!
My thoughts exactly, not sure if sh350i rides better on the bigger wheels and a tad less weight but the dash is shit on that and better on Forza. Is the suspension much better on the adv?
I am after 30000kmh with my 300 And You are 100% right about everything! Specialy with the front shaking when lowering down from 60kmh to 40kmh, first i though that this is a wheel replacement, but no! The fuel cap ohhh i height it. The shoks are terrible , and the exauhast sound so bad . Be ready though, after 25000 you'll start to here the poley naking hurrible noises as he is dying slowly.
ouch that is not good. i know now they came out with the 360cc and i wonder if it will be any better. honda should have done a better job when building these new bikes but they did not. i have a new video comming soon with the shaking hope you like it.
@@NickCaliThaiI know, I necropost here, but maybe you know. Recently my Forza 350 started shutting the engine down occasionally. Always at a low speed and 90% in a left turn. I've sent it to the official repair shop several times, but they found nothing and the issue stays. I suspect a shorty somewhere in the chain of engine on-off switch, because the sound is exactly like when you use the switch. Couldn't find a decent mechanic/electrician in this country
The wobbling is to do with the tires it seems certain tires develop a shake similar to the one you describe. The Forza is sensitive to poor tires. Dunlop city grips are the ideal tire for this scoot.
The bike is at the shop this week. Hinda says it's due to the wheel bearing in the back which also connects to the belt drive system or something like that. They say if they replace the bearing and clean out the housing and also replace the belt then it will go away. Let's see if they are correct or not. Will let u all know soon.
hey my man, i got the Forza 300 from 2020. Yes, it is true....the Frontshocks are shit. The rear shocks are nice. My exhaust doesn't do back fire. My seat is totally different than yours and the windshield is not flimsy on my Forza than yours. I went in Mai 27. 2020 to greece with my Forza . I live here in Germany and i can tell you, that the best tires are the Michelin City Grip 2 . These tires are very good. The original tires from Pirelli are sucks.
Hi, I am in Thailand and have done about 6,500 kms on my 350 and agree more or less with what you say, however i have had no problem with the fuel flap or the seat material and usually ride with the screen down so have not noticed any problem. But even with these faults i still like the bike and don't see an alternative on the market.
Very true. I am also at 6500 km. Yes I agree. Bike is still a good choice for thailand. Love the bike. And aftermarket parts are not exspencive at all. I will get my seat fixed maybe next week at one of the local shops.
Very helpful, what I can tell you though is that the speed wobble is most likely coming from the top box. I have an ADV 150 and I have exactly the same issue. I took it back to Honda and they said to remove the top box. I did, and the speed wobble was gone. Unfortunately so was my top box! So it’s a compromise and Honda know all about it. As for the tyres, I replaced mine with Michelin city grip 2’s and the bike sticks to the road like glue now.
I have the 300 and the fuel access flap sticks for me too. The garage cleaned out mechanism but it only solved the problem for a day or two. I just use my keys to pry it open, an inconvenience but not a big issue.
They are built to a price ...small wheels will give that wobble and shimmy ..the exhaust is to comply to emissions ,but people change them ...tyres are probably sourced for a low price in bulk....so you get what you pay for in many respects..
I got my Forza in Nakhon Sawan only a few weeks ago, so don’t have many issues with it yet other than than rear shocks don’t cushion the bumps well, the adjusters don’t make a lot of difference,. The thin vibrating windscreen is a little annoying. There is a mild pop pop when de-throttling. Lovin the bike otherwise.
2022 yamaha tmax tech max 560. The best side stand ever,,,,,, just how you explained it. The seat 💺 i put that down to the heat sun in Thailand. Yeah I have problem with the seat to due to a cable Same on my old honda xadv. I love honda !!!! But the yamaha tmax tech max 560 . Was unbelievable 😳 pure quality 👌 but unfortunately due to circumstances I had to trade in and now got a 2018 honda forza 300. Ive had 3 forza before And a 350 . The 350 was good 2021 year. But happy with the forza mileage so good. And oil change intervals!!! Tmax tech max 560 Oil change 3000 miles . Crap like a sports bike
Great informative video. I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Forza 350 or the ADV 350, I think you just swayed me. Wow! Didn't realise just how many quirks the forza had!
I have the 2023 model and i can confirm that the seat issue was fixed for MY 2023, but on the other way, it seems very hard.... So Honda now offers a "Confort Seat" replacement as acessory. This special seat comes from factory with the Forza 125 Special Edition, and the price in Europe is 200 € + VAT. The tires that mine came from factory with, are Michelin City Grip 2, sot not sure if they're better than yours or not... About the shock absorbers, they still suck, but that's a problem with the majority of the bikes, not just Honda. About the fuel tank lid, it still gets stuck, but that doesn't bother me, everytime you want to open the fuel lid, with one finger you push the button, and with other finger you simply push the center panel, and the lid gets released without effort, like the following video: ua-cam.com/video/BOCfoXWKUaY/v-deo.html
I got no issues with mine, handles just fine, OK rear shocks could be better but they are adequate for its job even 2 up, the exhaust is choking it which I will address with a decatted exhaust system, the fuel flap is a pain but an easy two min fix with a dremmel, my screen is fine and I have no idea what tyres you have but they will differ in quality depending on where they are made, even if it does say "Pirelli" on them. I changed mine for Michelins within a week of getting the bike so my tyres are always a known quantity not some semi-knockoff from a cheap factory made under licence. Handling issues, that is down to you man not the bike, no bike handles perfectly the factory setup is always a compromise unless you are a factory racer and you can have a race bike tailor made for you. Adjust your style, the Forza is a smooth commuter not a Kawasaki 300 Ninja, be mr smooth and it will flow for you. Some good points though I don't really agree with most of them entirely.
Thanks for watching the video. The bike is not the best m8. It's rides ok but could use much upgrading Not sure where u are in the world but eith the fucked up roads in Thailand, the foza us a rattle can.
Hi, i've a same model but 300. I agree about the rear shock. The seat material is not the same, better. No problem with the gas cap. No problem with the windshield. No wooble. I agree about the glove box. I agree about the tires, pirelli, cracks on tire after 2000 kms a shame. Thanks for the video , i did not know the tool for setting the rear shocks is in the tool bag under the seat😂. I lived in nakon sawan.
The glove box is the pits, mine has just seized up and won't open after only 1000kms, so it's a trip to Honda and they need 2-3 hours to sort it. Same issue with the fuel lid.
Omg I have got to agree with you !! The tyres are crap, if I had tbe 💵 I would go straight to Michelin. Plus you forgot the Comms system, no Apple connectivity!!! I mean wtf ! £5.2k for a scooter and I can’t use the Bluetooth. Fuel flap is rubbish I have the same issue. Seat material is also flimsy but ours does have a different feel to it. Other than that it’s not a bad bike. It does drink fuel like no tomorrow if you go everywhere on full throttle, oh yeah the exhaust is crap. Has started to show signs of rust in places. Thanks for a great vid Red Cowboy 👍👍
Glad you liked it m8. Glad you all liked it. It's a good bike for sure but yeah I did forget that blue tooth thing also does not work. Why even have it if they don't give it to all of us. Crazy ass Honda
Great video. I do wonder how many of your problems with running gear on due to Thailand's roads and the heat? But it is nice to hear something negative about a scooter many reviews says is exceptionally good.
You have literally the best and most honest review out! Thanks heaps. In Australia I've heard heaps complaining about suspension but i can't find the ADV version here. 😢 Im literally about to put a deposit on the Forza 350. Tyres i knew were bad when people have 10000miles + and still had tread lol (already had a few 300la but sold years ago)
Just took mine into Honda for the handle bar shake, and they've pointed out the uneven wear on the $#1t tyres. The warranty is only 6 months or 5,000kms on the tyres, and mine is 6.5 months old. Having said that, I was experiencing the problem 2 months ago, but have spent 2 months in surgery and recovery from a spine operation, so missed the boat. Although I wouldn't want Honda's tyres for the replacement anyway. I also now have no confidence in the road holding capabilities of these tyres, particularly cornering. That was a penny pinch too far, in my opinion, together with all the items you've pointed out. I'll be thinking hard before buying Honda again.
exactly, bro, i feel the same way. and also its not only the tires bro there was a problem with my rear rim and the bearings inside. for some reason, i was getting some clicking noise and i thought it was my brakes but when i took it in i found out that the rear tire system was fucked. they had to change the bearings the belt drive system and whatever else was in that shit. after they fixed all that stuff and gave me a new rear rim the shaking was gone almost 90 percent. so if you are still having the shake i would go back and tell them to inspect the rear swingarm system. tell them something is wrong and you want them to check it out. let me know if i can be any more help.
@@NickCaliThai Thanks. Which tyres did you change to? That's a common problem on these scooters. I had the same problem with my previous PCX, and had all that same lot changed. Hopefully mine is the tyres, for now.... Also the automatic clutch (??) assembly sometimes needs a clean out, as this can also cause shake / vibrations. I had this on one potential rental I was using for a test drive before buying, a very good Honda Phuket engineer confirmed this problem in writing, enabling me to return it to the rental shop, as the crooks wouldn't accept it from me.
@@christurner3857 have not changed the tires just yet. I'm planning a short trip from chiangmai to bangkok and back. Let's see how this baby does After the trip I might get some new tires for sure Will keep u posted. Have a good morning m8.
@@NickCaliThai That's not a short trip, 555. Enjoy and stay safe. Better get those new tyres whilst you're in BKK. I was coming North for a long tour, until my back problem took over. Probably wait now until the smog clears up and it's not so cold, and I've got some decent tyres....
Thanks I've been looking around for more confirmatoin on this issue. I want to be able to use the top case and the top case comes as standard here in Switzerland.
I guess you've solved the wobble now? I'm guessing you changed the tires and the wobble left. Good thing is that the other 9 things are easily changed or not a big deal. Wishing this bike to be imported to USA. Nothing yet.
Very interesting. I have the same fuel cap problem and carry a bent bit of metal to open it. The wobbly screen and saggy seat cover might be affected by Thailand-type temperatures, not an issue in northern England. I am surprised you don't like the tyres because I find them great. I definitely need to swap the rear shocks, for me they are the worst thing about the bike.
Thank you for your honest review🙂 I just did a test drive on the Forza recently and I felt the same. I love the Honda Forza it was on my top list. it looks great but after the test drive I changed my mind.😏
hello . i think u should ride a Honda Vario 160 . its small but practically spicy . i didnt ever ever hear any complaint . or u can switch to gilera or bmw scooter👍
Yamaha xmax 300 is far better built. I also think the blue core engine is smoother than the honda. One thing for sure is the final drive is better on the Yamaha, the transmission of power to the belt is not only sharper but is much smoother. Durability wise both engines will last
Sorry to say, I have the same issues. I know now that it is not me alone having these "problems". I am from the Netherlands. But I am glad with the bike. I had a lot of other bikes in the past, but never had a big smile on my face as with the Forza 350. Maybe next year the Honda X-Adv :)
Thanks a lot for this video ...I really agree with you about this....the gloves box i feel the same i open and close like its made from glass also the front plastic i all the time keep it down...and about the seat also is very cheap i buy from ali good something for this and also for your problem whit the foot .. you can buy good something for this...... And i whis i can get shock absorber like you have but I'm so sad is illegal in my country ...
This has been very informative and i would like to hear the critics on the X Max. I know the battery on the X Max is in a ridiculous location. Thanks for posting Red Cowboy
The battery is placed where it is to change the weight balance of the bike, scooters are very rear heavy and it's to counteract that rear heavyness for better handling and a less "wiggely" front end.
@@kiwiforever3604 I'm not an expert, but my xmax 125 is stable up to 110 at least, but at slow speeds the steering is slightly light and even more with a pillion. The 300 should be stable att motorway speeds.
My european Honda Forza drives excellent. No issues . The only thing i did was replacing the tires. Michelin out. Heidenau in. I think there is a different quality between europe and your country
Thank you for this video, is it me or why didn’t they make that glove box lockable like the xmax 300, I’m trying to decide between both bikes but I think I’m leaning more towards the xmax
I was in two minds, I went and check out the Xmax 300. The seat was hard and uncomfortable and the build quality compared with the Honda was poor. You could see where they scrimped on cash on the build. The controls are so much better on the Honda
If you could record this front shaking that would be great. Just include it in one of your vids please, if not a short separate one. I have tested 350 just for an hour and I think I had that. It was very wired and I thought I had run over something. Your vid, if you can re-create it, could help people make a better decision.
I went to Honda today. It is a normal thing they say for the 350 and a easy fix for them. The rest tire has a bearing and a belt that needs to be replaced. They do it for free. They say it's a Honda recall. Try to drive about 50 to 60kph then let go of the throttle and at 42kph and down pass 40 please remove your hands from the wheel very lightly and wait for the shake to come. Please be careful and make sure to grab the handlebar fast because it can cause an accident if you do not carch the handlebar . Be safe . Let me know.
WTH.....i had my eyes set on buying this bike but dang man...Thanks for your super honest review and saving me big bucks. Now the real question is, what other scooter/motorcycle would you recommend? Something for two riders.
The forza is still a good bike but I would wait till the new model so they can fix all the issues with the first model of their 350. It still kicks ass but I think it has to many issues at least for my bike. Its hard to say what bike is good. I still think over all it's ok and if it's under warranty they will fix it. Hummm
@@NickCaliThai I wouldn't hold your breath. These are the same issues as with the earlier Forza 300, as they didn't fix them for the new 350, it's unlikely they will at all. Granted my bike is still only 1000kms but I don't have an issue with the suspension or the tyre grip, and my seat seems fine up to now. After all, it is only a road tourer / cruiser, not a track racing or adventure bike. The new ADV has better shocks, but that's for off-roading. You can buy a replacement screen, I think it's Givi, which is slightly higher and wider, and perhaps thicker. The biggest surprise came when I asked Honda to connect my top box led lights, and they said to get to the rear lights and wiring they would need to remove both side panels, the top box frame and grab bars, to get inside. It appears you would need to do all that to change a bulb also - ridiculous, particularly when there's a massive bulkhead at the back of the seat box, suitable for an access hatch. Of course, they also didn't want to do it sighting the loss of the 3 year warranty as an issue if I made alterations. Another thing to watch out for is juddering at low take off speeds, that is the drive belt / bearings or clutch needing either a good clean or changing. Same common problem as I had with my old PCX. Just returned from Honda along with my wife in the car who was there to pick me up, as they said they needed 2-3 hours to fix it, they managed to open the seized glove compartment door, without taking a load of panels off, simply lubricated the catch and latch, and I was on my way in 10 minutes. I was annoyed, since they could have done that last Friday when I was in for the 1000kms oil change, and complained of it at the time - bl..dy farce.😒 Still, as you say, a good bike, and I don't believe there's anything to compare, certainly not the Yamaha X max, IMHO.
@@christurner3857 yeah I heard the same thing about the clutch and belts etc. I was told the shaking is from that and that they would have to clean it and service it. Regarding them being lazy to do work on the bike , I also don't know. Honda thailand should have preeped the machanics more in advance to get ready in fixing the issues that we all face. It's not the franchise owners fault what so ever and more of Honda Thailand. Anyways More upgrades soon to come. And I love the bike still.
Hi all you Honda cowboys .. let me throw in my early impression on the Forzer 350 I picked up new today. Fuel cap and release .. no problem. Operates perfect. Left side glove department door? Had me stymied for a few minutes but careful scrutiny I discovered latching mechanism (flimsy that it is) works quite ok if you .. remember .. to push the thing at top left (to release) and not in the middle top, or right top. Do the latter and you’ll remain frustrated. Shockies ? Gave me a couple of jars on big sudden bumps in road! Will look into that again later. It’s on the standard mid setting on the shock. Otherwise I love the bike, and even the screen when I go faster and raise it. Looking forward to putting more clicks on the clock. Cheers. Merv (Australia)
Sounds like me on day 1. Congrats. It's a good bike for sure. After your done keeping it clean and getting her dirty I'm sure you will notice a few things here and their. But over all it's a bute. What color did u get. What country do u stay at. Keep in touch.
Yeah. Good your happy but over all I think of Honda is selling their forza at a premium price we the customer deserve some good parts. Why should we have to buy a bike and upgrade It if we don't want to. Shocks cost allot my friend for this bike and so does fixing the front.
Your bike must be made different lol to the UK seat is nice the shock while not being plush is better than the 300 forza which was real rubbish I could feel every hole.... I will give you the fuel cap after a while it does get stuck not yet for me as I have only 600 miles... the windscreen I never to hardly use in the up position
I need to go rent 1 and review it for sure. I've been lazy with the family and other things happening everyday but I think it might be time to go rent one and beat the shit out if it to see if it's a good bike or what.
good for short rides and long rides no issues at all. once you get comfortable with the bike it will be fine. not sure what country you are from but if its a thai model bike you might have some issues that i have mentioned in some of my older posts. be safe
This guy couldn't review a Twinkie effectively. But...the title is click bait. And here we are. Front end wobble? I've ridden 4 Forzas and own one. I never, never experienced wobble.
Well I do. So I don't think your correct m8. Read the comments and reply to all the other people who agree and have the same issues brother. Easy to hate but in realty the forza 350 has issues bro. Thanks anyways for your feedback but my bike has issues and more videos to come of them fixing the wobble. Anyways.. Thanks for watching. Red cowboy media
Hay man, just fixed the sticking fuel cap issue. You just need I small bit of hot glue. I posted a vid to UA-cam showing how to do it. ua-cam.com/video/0tOs9i1ct8Q/v-deo.html
We should all get together and complain. Maybe if we can get enough movement on the video we can get Honda to notice it and reach out to us. I think it's not fair.
How do u know what u have untill u actually own it. I did not say I hate my bike, just things I hate that could have been better. Bike is great. Go buy one amigo.
I am in Thailand and no issues with the rear shocks or the front forks & shocks. However the tires I have heard of several issues at speed or after releasing the throttle and getting a wobble. The new Forza here is shipping with cheaper tires in Thailand. I will wear my tires out then replace them with a good brand. My three year old 300cc Forza came with Pirelli tires. My new Forza came with a cheaper brand I never have heard of. Yes I changed the muffler and I have a little very little more power but it is noisy now.
I agree with you on all counts i not feel safe on it tyres no grip lost it nearly 2 times ,,, the stand not good has fallen off the stannd 5 times slight incline it topples ove😊r,, steering not good not feel safe ,,battery collapse 2,5 years old,, heavy fual consumption around town can be as low as 14k a litre ,, poor quality cheap build road design poor not worth the money,, a disgrace for a Honda ,,will sell it cheap to get rid of it..
It's not cheep it's just not balanced properly with the forza. These bikes suck when it comes to putting a box on them. I've had this bike for a while and I can say IT SUCKS
No issues with the rear shocks over here in Europe (Netherlands) I often ride with my wife on the back. No issues.
Also the exhaust on mine doesn’t do the back fire thing.
Also, the seat on my bike is totally different than yours.
Also, the screen on mine is not so flimsy as yours, no issues.
Fuel cap also gets stick on mine. But I can see what the issue is, so I will try and sort that out.
No issues with front forks at all on my bike.
Yup, glove box is also flimsy on my bike.
Tires on my bike are excellent. No issues at all. These bikes are not fitted for sport riding, but for commuting. So they have harder tires.
Over all, I would say that your bike has been built to a lower budget than European bikes.
I agree .
They must have skimped out for the local domestic market 100 percent.
Yes the pirreli tyres are super not had a slip but again not pushed them hard like cornering but I am ham fisted on the throttle
Different countries are getting different types of tyres....
Mine is fitted with some cheap-skate ones too...
Its wobbles when on road lines and especially during rain...
Just gotto be extra careful... That's all...
If not happy with it... Just change it.... Coz to the manufacturers / assemblers / importers.... Every dime matters...
The fuel flap sticking is easily remedied. It is a common thing with Forzas. Just press the 'fuel' button and at the same time press the bodywork a couple of inches above the flap. Then it will open. Works with mine anyway.
About the steering wobbling when decelerating, do the following:
Remove the top case and do a test ride alone, don't take a passenger with you, neither the top case.
If it still wobbles, then the cause is the rear Racing Boy's shock absorbers. Since they're softer than the originals, they're letting the back of the bike to dive and the front wheel is not getting enough traction... so you should talk with Racing Boy about that, maybe they can borrow you an upgraded front fork springs (which normally are stiffer than the originals), that might solve your steering wobbling problem...
Please keep us posted about the result.
Took my bike to the dealer. They told me they adjusted cable for fuel lid and now it works ok. They also told me that it is common
I'm next
Over got the new honda forza three fifty cc and I don't find any problems with wobble on the front forks when coming of the power or dropping the speed from 80 mph to zero.
Hello, from Greece! I plan to change my rear shocks with yss in a few months, because I also find them a little stiff. I hope the yss are a good choice. My exhaust doesn't do the back fire sound you mention, but it does make a flapping sound when I increase the throttle, which I find a little bit annoying. Probably will change it too in a few months.The quality of the seat is much better with mine I think, but I also plan to change it soon, and also use a better foam material for the inside. Fuel cap, no problems, but I 've traveled only 1500 km so far. My forza came with pirelli tyres, and I have no issue with them whatsoever. Great video! I like your style!
Thank you for liking the video
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I got one of the last 300 cc Forzas the year they upgraded the engine to 350. Same body with a Givi box on the back too. I am 5’11” and 100 kilos, but haven’t had any of the problems you cited, either in city here in Rayong, or driving cross country on the expressways. I think it is a great machine, but I treat it as a cruiser, not a sport bike. However, I would agree with you that the kick stand would benefit from maybe another inch or so in length.
I thought my European Forza 350 had a better seat cover until I let it sit in the full sun for an hour and the seat cover became as flexible as in the video.
I guess it's the same seat cover in Thailand except it's always hot there making it flexible all the time.
May as well buy the ADV 350 as the suspension is already upgraded, screen looks more stable also
Goof idea
Is his hired from a doggy hire firms ?
Their are lots in Thailand 🇹🇭;
They even keep your passport & blame you from damage done previously.
Yep, it is not the same as European version, much better quality for Europe that's for sure, seat is better looking totally different from yours, rear shocks are good, the screen is secured doesn't wobble, don't have any problems with the fuel cap for now, tires are excellent on my bike, they are Michelin City Grip 2, and don't have any speed wobbles, I can let my hands down and the bike goes straight down the road (maybe it's your top case I see it is not the original one, try cruising without it) hope they fix your problems, cheers mate!
A great review thanks. I test rode a Forza 350 in the UK. Horrible jarring rear suspension. Lovely smooth engine. Useless screen. Great storage. Riding position feels cramped compared to my Burgman 400. Very economical and 8k mile service intervals is a real bonus. Super-expensive Honda accessories though - to add a top-box and heated grips costs over £1000!!
Useless screen?! It's great! 😊
@@jonasmanny3726 Possibly it is for some people but not for me. If it were that good then would Givi bother making an aftermarket one?
@ericthexm The screen takes almost all wind away. I'm 184 cm tall. One of the best screens a ever tested on a scooter/motorcycle.
@@jonasmanny3726 I'm very happy for you. Enjoy. I regularly do 300 mile a day journeys and like more wind protection. Horses for courses.
My thoughts exactly, not sure if sh350i rides better on the bigger wheels and a tad less weight but the dash is shit on that and better on Forza. Is the suspension much better on the adv?
I am after 30000kmh with my 300
And You are 100% right about everything! Specialy with the front shaking when lowering down from 60kmh to 40kmh, first i though that this is a wheel replacement, but no!
The fuel cap ohhh i height it.
The shoks are terrible , and the exauhast sound so bad .
Be ready though, after 25000 you'll start to here the poley naking hurrible noises as he is dying slowly.
ouch that is not good. i know now they came out with the 360cc and i wonder if it will be any better.
honda should have done a better job when building these new bikes but they did not.
i have a new video comming soon with the shaking hope you like it.
@@NickCaliThai jeli išta od ovih problema rješeno na novom modelu 2023
@@NickCaliThaiI know, I necropost here, but maybe you know.
Recently my Forza 350 started shutting the engine down occasionally. Always at a low speed and 90% in a left turn. I've sent it to the official repair shop several times, but they found nothing and the issue stays. I suspect a shorty somewhere in the chain of engine on-off switch, because the sound is exactly like when you use the switch.
Couldn't find a decent mechanic/electrician in this country
The wobbling is to do with the tires it seems certain tires develop a shake similar to the one you describe. The Forza is sensitive to poor tires. Dunlop city grips are the ideal tire for this scoot.
The bike is at the shop this week.
Hinda says it's due to the wheel bearing in the back which also connects to the belt drive system or something like that.
They say if they replace the bearing and clean out the housing and also replace the belt then it will go away.
Let's see if they are correct or not.
Will let u all know soon.
michelin make the city grips not Dunlop 👌🏻
Dunlop City grips😂😂 I think you mean Michelin City grips lol
hey my man, i got the Forza 300 from 2020. Yes, it is true....the Frontshocks are shit. The rear shocks are nice. My exhaust doesn't do back fire. My seat is totally different than yours and the windshield is not flimsy on my Forza than yours.
I went in Mai 27. 2020 to greece with my Forza . I live here in Germany and i can tell you, that the best tires are the Michelin City Grip 2 . These tires are very good. The original tires from Pirelli are sucks.
I will upgrade the tires for sure it's on my list
Hi, I am in Thailand and have done about 6,500 kms on my 350 and agree more or less with what you say, however i have had no problem with the fuel flap or the seat material and usually ride with the screen down so have not noticed any problem. But even with these faults i still like the bike and don't see an alternative on the market.
Very true.
I am also at 6500 km.
Yes I agree.
Bike is still a good choice for thailand.
Love the bike.
And aftermarket parts are not exspencive at all.
I will get my seat fixed maybe next week at one of the local shops.
Looks like it's built to a cost and it's surprising Honda let the quality go so bad. Seems that Kymco Downtown 350i is built better
Definitely you're right about fuel flap, kick stand and front shocks, they are to soft to me.
Very helpful, what I can tell you though is that the speed wobble is most likely coming from the top box. I have an ADV 150 and I have exactly the same issue.
I took it back to Honda and they said to remove the top box. I did, and the speed wobble was gone. Unfortunately so was my top box! So it’s a compromise and Honda know all about it. As for the tyres, I replaced mine with Michelin city grip 2’s and the bike sticks to the road like glue now.
I have the 300 and the fuel access flap sticks for me too. The garage cleaned out mechanism but it only solved the problem for a day or two. I just use my keys to pry it open, an inconvenience but not a big issue.
They are built to a price ...small wheels will give that wobble and shimmy ..the exhaust is to comply to emissions ,but people change them ...tyres are probably sourced for a low price in bulk....so you get what you pay for in many respects..
I got my Forza in Nakhon Sawan only a few weeks ago, so don’t have many issues with it yet other than than rear shocks don’t cushion the bumps well, the adjusters don’t make a lot of difference,. The thin vibrating windscreen is a little annoying. There is a mild pop pop when de-throttling.
Lovin the bike otherwise.
Same with me.
Small modifications and all is well
Glad u is enjoying the bike.
And thanks for watching and suscribing to My channel m8
2022 yamaha tmax tech max 560. The best side stand ever,,,,,, just how you explained it. The seat 💺 i put that down to the heat sun in Thailand.
Yeah I have problem with the seat to due to a cable
Same on my old honda xadv.
I love honda !!!!
But the yamaha tmax tech max 560 .
Was unbelievable 😳 pure quality 👌 but unfortunately due to circumstances I had to trade in and now got a 2018 honda forza 300.
Ive had 3 forza before
And a 350 .
The 350 was good 2021 year.
But happy with the forza mileage so good.
And oil change intervals!!!
Tmax tech max 560
Oil change 3000 miles .
Crap like a sports bike
Great informative video. I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Forza 350 or the ADV 350, I think you just swayed me.
Wow! Didn't realise just how many quirks the forza had!
I have the 2023 model and i can confirm that the seat issue was fixed for MY 2023, but on the other way, it seems very hard.... So Honda now offers a "Confort Seat" replacement as acessory. This special seat comes from factory with the Forza 125 Special Edition, and the price in Europe is 200 € + VAT.
The tires that mine came from factory with, are Michelin City Grip 2, sot not sure if they're better than yours or not...
About the shock absorbers, they still suck, but that's a problem with the majority of the bikes, not just Honda.
About the fuel tank lid, it still gets stuck, but that doesn't bother me, everytime you want to open the fuel lid, with one finger you push the button, and with other finger you simply push the center panel, and the lid gets released without effort, like the following video:
ua-cam.com/video/BOCfoXWKUaY/v-deo.html
I got no issues with mine, handles just fine, OK rear shocks could be better but they are adequate for its job even 2 up, the exhaust is choking it which I will address with a decatted exhaust system, the fuel flap is a pain but an easy two min fix with a dremmel, my screen is fine and I have no idea what tyres you have but they will differ in quality depending on where they are made, even if it does say "Pirelli" on them. I changed mine for Michelins within a week of getting the bike so my tyres are always a known quantity not some semi-knockoff from a cheap factory made under licence. Handling issues, that is down to you man not the bike, no bike handles perfectly the factory setup is always a compromise unless you are a factory racer and you can have a race bike tailor made for you. Adjust your style, the Forza is a smooth commuter not a Kawasaki 300 Ninja, be mr smooth and it will flow for you. Some good points though I don't really agree with most of them entirely.
This guy needs to learn oh to ride a bike he's afraid nothing wrong with my forza love it .Yes I'll change the rear shocks only thing I agree with him
Thanks for watching the video.
The bike is not the best m8.
It's rides ok but could use much upgrading
Not sure where u are in the world but eith the fucked up roads in Thailand, the foza us a rattle can.
Hi, i've a same model but 300. I agree about the rear shock. The seat material is not the same, better. No problem with the gas cap. No problem with the windshield. No wooble. I agree about the glove box. I agree about the tires, pirelli, cracks on tire after 2000 kms a shame. Thanks for the video , i did not know the tool for setting the rear shocks is in the tool bag under the seat😂. I lived in nakon sawan.
The glove box is the pits, mine has just seized up and won't open after only 1000kms, so it's a trip to Honda and they need 2-3 hours to sort it. Same issue with the fuel lid.
Yeah I need Honda to fix all my shit also.
Sucks balls
Agree about the exhaust. The rest I don’t have any problem.
I wonder why did you buy it, as long as many of the problems you mentioned were easy to spot just looking around it and during a short test ride.
Bought new.
No test rides.
Bike has 21000 km and needs some fixing
Omg I have got to agree with you !! The tyres are crap, if I had tbe 💵 I would go straight to Michelin. Plus you forgot the Comms system, no Apple connectivity!!! I mean wtf ! £5.2k for a scooter and I can’t use the Bluetooth. Fuel flap is rubbish I have the same issue. Seat material is also flimsy but ours does have a different feel to it. Other than that it’s not a bad bike. It does drink fuel like no tomorrow if you go everywhere on full throttle, oh yeah the exhaust is crap. Has started to show signs of rust in places. Thanks for a great vid Red Cowboy 👍👍
Glad you liked it m8.
Glad you all liked it.
It's a good bike for sure but yeah I did forget that blue tooth thing also does not work.
Why even have it if they don't give it to all of us.
Crazy ass Honda
such a cool brow. GJ
Didn you buy your bike on the Chinese black market? I just drove one and it's almost perfect 😊
I got it from the thailand black market bro.
Its getting worse
Great video. I do wonder how many of your problems with running gear on due to Thailand's roads and the heat? But it is nice to hear something negative about a scooter many reviews says is exceptionally good.
Thanks, and appreciate your comment.
You could be correct also.
The bike is at Honda now getting fixed so let's hope it all gets resolved
You have literally the best and most honest review out! Thanks heaps. In Australia I've heard heaps complaining about suspension but i can't find the ADV version here. 😢 Im literally about to put a deposit on the Forza 350. Tyres i knew were bad when people have 10000miles + and still had tread lol (already had a few 300la but sold years ago)
Just took mine into Honda for the handle bar shake, and they've pointed out the uneven wear on the $#1t tyres. The warranty is only 6 months or 5,000kms on the tyres, and mine is 6.5 months old. Having said that, I was experiencing the problem 2 months ago, but have spent 2 months in surgery and recovery from a spine operation, so missed the boat. Although I wouldn't want Honda's tyres for the replacement anyway.
I also now have no confidence in the road holding capabilities of these tyres, particularly cornering.
That was a penny pinch too far, in my opinion, together with all the items you've pointed out. I'll be thinking hard before buying Honda again.
exactly, bro, i feel the same way. and also its not only the tires bro there was a problem with my rear rim and the bearings inside.
for some reason, i was getting some clicking noise and i thought it was my brakes but when i took it in i found out that the rear tire system was fucked.
they had to change the bearings the belt drive system and whatever else was in that shit.
after they fixed all that stuff and gave me a new rear rim the shaking was gone almost 90 percent.
so if you are still having the shake i would go back and tell them to inspect the rear swingarm system.
tell them something is wrong and you want them to check it out.
let me know if i can be any more help.
@@NickCaliThai
Thanks. Which tyres did you change to?
That's a common problem on these scooters. I had the same problem with my previous PCX, and had all that same lot changed. Hopefully mine is the tyres, for now....
Also the automatic clutch (??) assembly sometimes needs a clean out, as this can also cause shake / vibrations. I had this on one potential rental I was using for a test drive before buying, a very good Honda Phuket engineer confirmed this problem in writing, enabling me to return it to the rental shop, as the crooks wouldn't accept it from me.
@@christurner3857 have not changed the tires just yet.
I'm planning a short trip from chiangmai to bangkok and back.
Let's see how this baby does
After the trip I might get some new tires for sure
Will keep u posted.
Have a good morning m8.
@@NickCaliThai
That's not a short trip, 555. Enjoy and stay safe.
Better get those new tyres whilst you're in BKK.
I was coming North for a long tour, until my back problem took over. Probably wait now until the smog clears up and it's not so cold, and I've got some decent tyres....
@@christurner3857 happy holidays
The front wobble is because of the top case being installed. Get it down and you will have no wooble
Thanks I've been looking around for more confirmatoin on this issue. I want to be able to use the top case and the top case comes as standard here in Switzerland.
X Max 300 limited edition with the Ohlins rear shocks is fantastic
Hey Nick, I'm thinking of buying the same model as you have here. What brand and model tyre are you talking about Please?
I guess you've solved the wobble now? I'm guessing you changed the tires and the wobble left.
Good thing is that the other 9 things are easily changed or not a big deal. Wishing this bike to be imported to USA. Nothing yet.
It was the rear bearing.
The bike is at the shop and I should pick it up soon.
Let's test it out and see what's up
@@NickCaliThai The wobble wasn't because of the top case?
@@WujiKami bad front tired
Very interesting. I have the same fuel cap problem and carry a bent bit of metal to open it. The wobbly screen and saggy seat cover might be affected by Thailand-type temperatures, not an issue in northern England. I am surprised you don't like the tyres because I find them great. I definitely need to swap the rear shocks, for me they are the worst thing about the bike.
Use silicon spray on the fuel lid... That should fix the problem.. I want one of these as my first bike in 20 yrs.. not so sure now..
Your explanation is always mind-blowing 👍
I really love all of your videos.
Thank you for your honest review🙂 I just did a test drive on the Forza recently and I felt the same. I love the Honda Forza it was on my top list. it looks great but after the test drive I changed my mind.😏
What location are you.
@@NickCaliThai I'm in Malta 🙂
@@tlagha8632 beautiful m8
hello . i think u should ride a Honda Vario 160 . its small but practically spicy . i didnt ever ever hear any complaint . or u can switch to gilera or bmw scooter👍
Hi dear
My forza 350 is shaking when I drive it specially when my speed is less than 20 mil
Do you know what is the problem please
Yamaha xmax 300 is far better built. I also think the blue core engine is smoother than the honda. One thing for sure is the final drive is better on the Yamaha, the transmission of power to the belt is not only sharper but is much smoother. Durability wise both engines will last
I have the same issue of the gas cap problem, how can u fixed it???
It's easy fix.
I will make a video.
Pleaaw give me a few days.
Thanks.
@@NickCaliThai thank you, bro, that gas cap problem is making me annoying.
I bought a complete new cap and solved the problem .
Sorry to say, I have the same issues. I know now that it is not me alone having these "problems". I am from the Netherlands.
But I am glad with the bike. I had a lot of other bikes in the past, but never had a big smile on my face as with the Forza 350.
Maybe next year the Honda X-Adv :)
I agree the same m8.
Has small issues but s great comfortable bike for sure.
Happy 100 percent.
Thanks for watching and suscribing to My channel m8
U planu sam kupovine forze 350 pa ako mi mozete reci koje probleme ima i jeli ista otklonjeno na novom modelu za 2023 hvala
Bought a Yamaha TMax tech max. Best ever :)
Thanks a lot for this video ...I really agree with you about this....the gloves box i feel the same i open and close like its made from glass also the front plastic i all the time keep it down...and about the seat also is very cheap i buy from ali good something for this and also for your problem whit the foot .. you can buy good something for this...... And i whis i can get shock absorber like you have but I'm so sad is illegal in my country ...
You didn’t mention that the the side mirrors become extremely lose and wobble so much.
This has been very informative and i would like to hear the critics on the X Max. I know the battery on the X Max is in a ridiculous location. Thanks for posting Red Cowboy
Your welcome m8
The battery is placed where it is to change the weight balance of the bike, scooters are very rear heavy and it's to counteract that rear heavyness for better handling and a less "wiggely" front end.
@@Gurra1980 Interesting comment, so how severe can the wiggles get. Too much wiggle could throw you off the bike.
@@kiwiforever3604 I'm not an expert, but my xmax 125 is stable up to 110 at least, but at slow speeds the steering is slightly light and even more with a pillion. The 300 should be stable att motorway speeds.
@@Gurra1980 thank you for your reply. I am interested in the xmax. Price wise its excellent value and appears easier to work on than the forza.
Thank You for these amazing knowledge.
I have the same issue with the handle shaking.
Any idea how to fix it.
Good review. Will be useful for many buyers in India who are expecting this bike
Interesting.
Thanks for the reply.
I wonder who will be building the bike for India.
My european Honda Forza drives excellent. No issues .
The only thing i did was replacing the tires. Michelin out. Heidenau in.
I think there is a different quality between europe and your country
Great input, thanks!
Some are good,
How much mileage it had ?
When you bought it ?
Thank you for this video, is it me or why didn’t they make that glove box lockable like the xmax 300, I’m trying to decide between both bikes but I think I’m leaning more towards the xmax
It is lockable with the standard System.
I was in two minds, I went and check out the Xmax 300. The seat was hard and uncomfortable and the build quality compared with the Honda was poor. You could see where they scrimped on cash on the build. The controls are so much better on the Honda
Best review of Forza 350 yet. More informative than the rest in a short, concise manner.
If you could record this front shaking that would be great. Just include it in one of your vids please, if not a short separate one. I have tested 350 just for an hour and I think I had that. It was very wired and I thought I had run over something. Your vid, if you can re-create it, could help people make a better decision.
I went to Honda today.
It is a normal thing they say for the 350 and a easy fix for them.
The rest tire has a bearing and a belt that needs to be replaced.
They do it for free.
They say it's a Honda recall.
Try to drive about 50 to 60kph then let go of the throttle and at 42kph and down pass 40 please remove your hands from the wheel very lightly and wait for the shake to come.
Please be careful and make sure to grab the handlebar fast because it can cause an accident if you do not carch the handlebar .
Be safe .
Let me know.
WTH.....i had my eyes set on buying this bike but dang man...Thanks for your super honest review and saving me big bucks. Now the real question is, what other scooter/motorcycle would you recommend? Something for two riders.
The forza is still a good bike but I would wait till the new model so they can fix all the issues with the first model of their 350.
It still kicks ass but I think it has to many issues at least for my bike.
Its hard to say what bike is good.
I still think over all it's ok and if it's under warranty they will fix it.
Hummm
@@NickCaliThai Thanks Nick
@@NickCaliThai
I wouldn't hold your breath. These are the same issues as with the earlier Forza 300, as they didn't fix them for the new 350, it's unlikely they will at all.
Granted my bike is still only 1000kms but I don't have an issue with the suspension or the tyre grip, and my seat seems fine up to now. After all, it is only a road tourer / cruiser, not a track racing or adventure bike. The new ADV has better shocks, but that's for off-roading. You can buy a replacement screen, I think it's Givi, which is slightly higher and wider, and perhaps thicker.
The biggest surprise came when I asked Honda to connect my top box led lights, and they said to get to the rear lights and wiring they would need to remove both side panels, the top box frame and grab bars, to get inside. It appears you would need to do all that to change a bulb also - ridiculous, particularly when there's a massive bulkhead at the back of the seat box, suitable for an access hatch.
Of course, they also didn't want to do it sighting the loss of the 3 year warranty as an issue if I made alterations.
Another thing to watch out for is juddering at low take off speeds, that is the drive belt / bearings or clutch needing either a good clean or changing. Same common problem as I had with my old PCX.
Just returned from Honda along with my wife in the car who was there to pick me up, as they said they needed 2-3 hours to fix it, they managed to open the seized glove compartment door, without taking a load of panels off, simply lubricated the catch and latch, and I was on my way in 10 minutes. I was annoyed, since they could have done that last Friday when I was in for the 1000kms oil change, and complained of it at the time - bl..dy farce.😒
Still, as you say, a good bike, and I don't believe there's anything to compare, certainly not the Yamaha X max, IMHO.
@@christurner3857 yeah I heard the same thing about the clutch and belts etc.
I was told the shaking is from that and that they would have to clean it and service it.
Regarding them being lazy to do work on the bike , I also don't know.
Honda thailand should have preeped the machanics more in advance to get ready in fixing the issues that we all face.
It's not the franchise owners fault what so ever and more of Honda Thailand.
Anyways
More upgrades soon to come.
And I love the bike still.
I would still of bought my 350 even now I traded in my forza 300 for this and this is the better bike out there.
Hi all you Honda cowboys .. let me throw in my early impression on the Forzer 350 I picked up new today. Fuel cap and release .. no problem. Operates perfect. Left side glove department door? Had me stymied for a few minutes but careful scrutiny I discovered latching mechanism (flimsy that it is) works quite ok if you .. remember .. to push the thing at top left (to release) and not in the middle top, or right top. Do the latter and you’ll remain frustrated. Shockies ? Gave me a couple of jars on big sudden bumps in road! Will look into that again later. It’s on the standard mid setting on the shock. Otherwise I love the bike, and even the screen when I go faster and raise it. Looking forward to putting more clicks on the clock. Cheers. Merv (Australia)
Sounds like me on day 1.
Congrats.
It's a good bike for sure.
After your done keeping it clean and getting her dirty I'm sure you will notice a few things here and their.
But over all it's a bute.
What color did u get.
What country do u stay at.
Keep in touch.
Your fuel cap will be stubborn over time say a year or maybe before.
hi my friend from Greece, can you show us how to open the seat with plastic key, if we lose the key? Tnx and sory for my bad english .
I don’t have those problems at all maybe just the suspension need to be replaced but I don’t mind it
I live in Israel
Yeah. Good your happy but over all I think of Honda is selling their forza at a premium price we the customer deserve some good parts.
Why should we have to buy a bike and upgrade It if we don't want to.
Shocks cost allot my friend for this bike and so does fixing the front.
Your bike must be made different lol to the UK seat is nice the shock while not being plush is better than the 300 forza which was real rubbish I could feel every hole.... I will give you the fuel cap after a while it does get stuck not yet for me as I have only 600 miles... the windscreen I never to hardly use in the up position
I like the American review in Thailand. Super cool
My fuel lid also gets stuck. I am taking it to the local dealer. Do you know what the issue is?.. maybe short cable travel?
I think the cable is fucked. They must have ran it wrong and it gets stuck.
I think it's to loose or something.
They need to recall it and fix it.
@@NickCaliThai some minutes ago simeone posted a solution. I am going to take to dealer but am a bit worried since they might have to disassemble
@@silverredgodhotmail it should take a few houres to fix.
Let them. Do it
I have same problem with fuel lid on my PCX
My lid is also got stuck.
You are the best man ❤️❤️ please buy Burgman 400 2021 please
Cant wait for this. Xmax is a bike I want
I need to go rent 1 and review it for sure.
I've been lazy with the family and other things happening everyday but I think it might be time to go rent one and beat the shit out if it to see if it's a good bike or what.
Honda forza 125cc or yamaha xmax 125cc?
Wich one do you think is better?
@@minoumimoubob2581 good question.
I always liked Honda just because they have a good resale value in the future.
@@NickCaliThai I dont like honda plastics and styling.
@@darkelf1000 Yamaha looks more racing ish for sure.
Thanks buddy. I'll get the xmax instead.
Will it be good for short riders, my hieght is 5.4ft
good for short rides and long rides no issues at all.
once you get comfortable with the bike it will be fine.
not sure what country you are from but if its a thai model bike you might have some issues that i have mentioned in some of my older posts.
be safe
@@NickCaliThai thanks
But there is a kickstand larger????aftermarket??? Definitely is too short!!!! If Park on a heel is going to be scary!! Believe me
Hi all, is there a recommendation for the rear shock absorbers?
Change with ohlins shockbreaker for honda forza 300 or 350. The ohlins product code is HO 018
The ADV350 is the real upgrade to the forza 300
YEAH for sure!
I would get rid of it if I were u. Those bikes are built in much better quality in the EU.
This guy couldn't review a Twinkie effectively. But...the title is click bait. And here we are. Front end wobble? I've ridden 4 Forzas and own one. I never, never experienced wobble.
Well I do.
So I don't think your correct m8.
Read the comments and reply to all the other people who agree and have the same issues brother.
Easy to hate but in realty the forza 350 has issues bro.
Thanks anyways for your feedback but my bike has issues and more videos to come of them fixing the wobble.
Anyways..
Thanks for watching.
Red cowboy media
Hay man, just fixed the sticking fuel cap issue. You just need I small bit of hot glue. I posted a vid to UA-cam showing how to do it.
ua-cam.com/video/0tOs9i1ct8Q/v-deo.html
Seat on uk forza is made of a much thicker material. Front and rear suspension is horrendous on the London roads!
We should all get together and complain.
Maybe if we can get enough movement on the video we can get Honda to notice it and reach out to us.
I think it's not fair.
If you hate this so much why did you buy the bike?
How do u know what u have untill u actually own it.
I did not say I hate my bike, just things I hate that could have been better.
Bike is great.
Go buy one amigo.
@@NickCaliThai, I bought already and get it next week
Why keep it get rid
All u say is just 🐂 shit. By far the best scooter out there. Top quality all over...
I am in Thailand and no issues with the rear shocks or the front forks & shocks. However the tires I have heard of several issues at speed or after releasing the throttle and getting a wobble. The new Forza here is shipping with cheaper tires in Thailand. I will wear my tires out then replace them with a good brand. My three year old 300cc Forza came with Pirelli tires. My new Forza came with a cheaper brand I never have heard of. Yes I changed the muffler and I have a little very little more power but it is noisy now.
Thanks for the info.
Good to know m8.
As far as I know the European models come with Pirelli’s, don’t know why not here, but there are many Forza owners switching to Michelin City Grip
@@twizzian good to know
Take off the top box and half the problems will go - the bike's not made for that shape / size of box. This is pretty basic, TBH.
Yes i removed the box akready.
Seems to be much better.
I agree with you on all counts i not feel safe on it tyres no grip lost it nearly 2 times ,,, the stand not good has fallen off the stannd 5 times slight incline it topples ove😊r,, steering not good not feel safe ,,battery collapse 2,5 years old,, heavy fual consumption around town can be as low as 14k a litre ,, poor quality cheap build road design poor not worth the money,, a disgrace for a Honda ,,will sell it cheap to get rid of it..
Trade it in...
I will take it back to Honda and have them fix all the stuff asap
#Andstuff
All that money and it's garbage. WTF it's way overpriced .
Just get rid of it.
Thinking about it
buy a new bike. Go for an more expensive bike, BMW, HARLEY DAVIDSON, Ducarti
If you don’t like the bike, sell it !
You summed it when you said "I'm not a mechanic" correct your not and to stop the wobble take the cheap top box off !!
It's not cheep it's just not balanced properly with the forza.
These bikes suck when it comes to putting a box on them.
I've had this bike for a while and I can say IT SUCKS
Thanks will buy a Yamaha X Max 300 now 👍