Dr. Michael Eades - 'Paleopathology and the Origins of the Low-carb Diet'

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 161

  • @catlover-fo1jy
    @catlover-fo1jy 11 місяців тому +48

    What a funny and eloquent speaker Dr. M. Eades is. I enjoy learning about the human dietary evolution situation. The challenge is to entice others into being curious learners of the proper human diet. 2024 is the year for that work.

  • @dombarton2483
    @dombarton2483 11 місяців тому +76

    Brilliant. Simple and to the point. All we need to do now is change what is taught at medical school and dietetic school, plus change worldwide dietary guidelines so that the present and future generations will enjoy significantly better health.

    • @juliag7361
      @juliag7361 11 місяців тому +9

      Unfortunatly we go the other direction. In Germany every big newspaper, radio and tv push the idea of vegetarianism and veganism.

    • @Michelle-Eden
      @Michelle-Eden 11 місяців тому +10

      Our current system is deliberate, and will never change from the top down. Follow the money.

    • @wendycarter5718
      @wendycarter5718 11 місяців тому

      We need to change UA-cam censoring the carnivore diet !! This information is being slowly strangled under the instruction of the wholly corrupt World Health Organisation !!!

    • @Isaac5123
      @Isaac5123 10 місяців тому

      But they won't change anything because it does not keep the pharma making money and paying taxes to the government

    • @Isaac5123
      @Isaac5123 10 місяців тому

      ​@@juliag7361lol😅 good luck lol😅

  • @DaKeezl
    @DaKeezl 11 місяців тому +10

    Leslie Nielsen on fire! Brilliant talk, Doc. Thank you so much.

  • @FlamingBasketballClub
    @FlamingBasketballClub 11 місяців тому +19

    Dr. Michael Eades should definitely go on Wise Traditions podcast sometime as a guest. I would like to hear a in depth discussion on the historical origins of low carb diet.

  • @meathead365
    @meathead365 11 місяців тому +9

    This talk is a gem

  • @Appleblade
    @Appleblade 11 місяців тому +12

    Ask an engineer... after Dave Feldman & Michael Eades, my new motto.

    • @fiona4731
      @fiona4731 11 місяців тому +2

      And Ivor Cummins (and Elon Musk lol)

  • @PsychedelicPlatypus64
    @PsychedelicPlatypus64 11 місяців тому +23

    Been on carnivore for 2 to 3 weeks. My fasting blood sugar this morning was 117, down from over 200 when I started. I don't get hungry, I no longer get cravings, and I don't have the urge to binge eat.

    • @juliesaadwellness
      @juliesaadwellness 11 місяців тому +3

      Fantastic!!!

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 11 місяців тому +3

      keep going on!

    • @TeiStacja
      @TeiStacja 11 місяців тому

      Just be careful ... colon cancer is a real risk. I do not buy that story Dr. Eads i sharing here, since I do not believe in macroevolution :D God gave us all kind of plants and fruit to eat in Eden and permitted to eat meat only after the flood. it is wise to eat balanced died of plants and meats.

    • @steveherridge8965
      @steveherridge8965 11 місяців тому +3

      Keep going Catherine. I'm 3 years in (52 years old) and feel fantastic.

    • @MrWhite-7
      @MrWhite-7 11 місяців тому +2

      No cravings because your hunger is finally satiated with real food.

  • @garyjagoe9541
    @garyjagoe9541 11 місяців тому +26

    Just reinforces my switch to full carnivore.

  • @B81Mack
    @B81Mack 11 місяців тому +4

    Fascinating!
    This is the ultimate clinical trial analysis.
    This man and his wife are very easy to follow and understand, well spoken and thoughtful in their presentations.

  • @williamwightman8409
    @williamwightman8409 8 місяців тому +2

    Most excellent and relevant history of food macros and sorely needed for education of medical students.

  • @jenniferbowerman2573
    @jenniferbowerman2573 11 місяців тому +10

    Love this guy’s way of explaining things. What he says makes so much sense! Wish he could have been my prof at university! This is a brilliant explanation of why we should go no/lo carb.

  • @pwe5000
    @pwe5000 11 місяців тому +10

    Love this presentation! This is how it's done. He asked a clear and simple question and then went on to answer it at a reasonable pace using evidence

  • @gloriagiorgi1026
    @gloriagiorgi1026 11 місяців тому +5

    Such a brilliant and fun speech. I enjoyed every bit. Enlightening. I’m sticking to my eggs, grass fed fatty meat and tallow.

  • @freedomfighter4990
    @freedomfighter4990 11 місяців тому +27

    It's always fascinating to see the science that proves humans have been eating as much meat as we could get for as long as we've been on this planet.

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 3 місяці тому

      It's much more fascinating how ignorant and unaware people like you are. No it doesn't. All primitive tribes eat 75% plant based diets, with most of the calories coming from starch.

  • @bezoar21
    @bezoar21 11 місяців тому +9

    Thank you for this educational video!

  • @dort5436
    @dort5436 11 місяців тому +16

    I hope to be as healthy as Dr. Eades when I'm his age. He is a poster senior for LCHF living

  • @evastavrou4928
    @evastavrou4928 11 місяців тому +5

    Oh that is the best book I read in terms of knowledge and great entertainment - is with to read it again after some time ….

  • @twiggyfitness
    @twiggyfitness 5 місяців тому +1

    Love his presentation style. I love being primarily beef, egg, and cheese. The only veggie i eat is romaine lettuce, and im good with that. I feel so much better being off grains, vegetables, and fruit.

  • @eutectoid1
    @eutectoid1 11 місяців тому +7

    Apart from what he says - I like the way he presents it- with bit of wit!

  • @theophilusmann7869
    @theophilusmann7869 11 місяців тому +19

    14:10 "This is plant-based man." I died so hard that I am now extinct.

  • @guitarista666
    @guitarista666 11 місяців тому +7

    I really enjoyed this. It further confirms what I have come to believe.

  • @LS266
    @LS266 11 місяців тому +7

    Very interesting presentation, thank you!

  • @sassy2215
    @sassy2215 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this.

  • @angelinabalili2565
    @angelinabalili2565 11 місяців тому +8

    Excellent explanation 👏👏

  • @NoahSteckley
    @NoahSteckley 11 місяців тому +5

    Of the topics, this one is my favorite.

  • @DarthCarnivore
    @DarthCarnivore 11 місяців тому +30

    It's like the ancient Egyptians ate a "heart healthy" food pyramid diet. :)

    • @rubenclark8017
      @rubenclark8017 11 місяців тому

      😮

    • @cc2020-d4w
      @cc2020-d4w 11 місяців тому +3

      DarthCarnivore
      I hear ya! You know the ancient Egyptians used to be called the "bread people" by they're contemporaries... because of their "heart healthy" diets, guess what they found after examining the mummified remains? These people had modern diseases like the western world today: tooth decay, heart disease, evidence of Metabolic Syndrome. Interesting isn't it! Anyway, this was a great presentation. Meat on! Heal on! 🍖 🥓 🥩 🍳 🧈 🦞 🦀 🍗 🧀 🐟🐚 🍤

    • @GlennMarshallnz
      @GlennMarshallnz 11 місяців тому +2

      That comment is gold. 👍

    • @hektor6766
      @hektor6766 11 місяців тому

      They needed Lipitor and Jardiance in a real bad way.

    • @michaelkrull3331
      @michaelkrull3331 9 місяців тому

      How ironic is that!

  • @milesanderson301
    @milesanderson301 11 місяців тому +7

    Excellent presentation 👏

  • @Dalian-Dalian
    @Dalian-Dalian 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank You for posting this lecture. Much appreciated. Very intelligent lecturer, pleasure to see.

  • @brother_basil
    @brother_basil 11 місяців тому +4

    Excellent talk! Bravo!

  • @mariomenezes1153
    @mariomenezes1153 11 місяців тому +4

    Absolutely brilliant! Thank you!

  • @crowlion
    @crowlion 11 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for sharing this information. I learnt a fair bit from it. Interesting the demise of the plant based family tree part in our ancient past. I liked the brain size being linked to our smaller stomach. I have not heard this before. Great talk :)

  • @kriordan25
    @kriordan25 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely informative and fascinating
    Well done

  • @CashMoneyMoore
    @CashMoneyMoore 11 місяців тому +6

    great presentation

  • @whitewolf8257
    @whitewolf8257 11 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic 🎉❤ loved listening to this.

  • @BiggieCheese45
    @BiggieCheese45 11 місяців тому +6

    Great talk. Very important to take a holistic approach of past human history and evolution through more than just a singular narrow perception of science to understand human physiology and nutrition.

  • @gladysma308
    @gladysma308 10 місяців тому

    4:45 leslie 5:32 Kliber's fire of life, law of metabolic constrain, 27:00 atherosclerosis

  • @BorealScott
    @BorealScott 11 місяців тому +2

    Excellent!

  • @milantoth2045
    @milantoth2045 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks a lot! Dr.Aedes is a Legend!

  • @faza553
    @faza553 11 місяців тому +4

    Wonderful!

  • @salobrena6442
    @salobrena6442 11 місяців тому +2

    You gotta read their books

  • @Schuetze27
    @Schuetze27 11 місяців тому +3

    Great!

  • @canoedoc2390
    @canoedoc2390 11 місяців тому +1

    What is the beautiful piece of music that introduces this series?

    • @CL-he4jz
      @CL-he4jz 9 місяців тому

      it's " Sevilla" from Spanish suite ( opus 47- it is no.3 in the suite) by Isaac Albéniz

    • @CL-he4jz
      @CL-he4jz 9 місяців тому

      I can hear the sunshine!

    • @CL-he4jz
      @CL-he4jz 9 місяців тому

      ps interesting i wonder if the low carb ppl who chose it knew he died from kidney disease at 48 😢 (Apparently Albéniz had "Bright's disease" - "acute nephritis accompanied by high BP and heart disease" 🤔... hmmm. was this metabolic syndrome/ diabetic nephropathy I wonder?)

  • @JuliaCastilloMx
    @JuliaCastilloMx 11 місяців тому +1

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Wonderful!

  • @RandomHuTaoSimp
    @RandomHuTaoSimp 11 місяців тому +3

    Incredible

  • @matthewtrueman2579
    @matthewtrueman2579 11 місяців тому +2

    Awesome thanks

  • @scottharrison5734
    @scottharrison5734 11 місяців тому +3

    Always good to hear history from different doctorvand expert pretty much sums what worked out wheat most damaging grain you can eat
    FattyMeat healestfood you can can eat
    Wonder what gone take to change food recommend for genral population

    • @Paul-Weston
      @Paul-Weston 11 місяців тому

      "Fatty meat healstfood you can eat Wonder what gone take to change food recommend for genral population."
      It's kind of like English, but strangely different.

  • @cor3944
    @cor3944 11 місяців тому +7

    Very interesting and well presented! I thought that the ancient elites (royalty and priesthood) consumed more meat than the average civilian bc of the animal sacrifices and hunting privilege. That’s why I am surprised about the findings in the royal mummies.

    • @therealdeal3672
      @therealdeal3672 11 місяців тому +3

      I thought the same thing. But I guess it just goes to show you that humans have created some pretty tasty carbohydrate-based foods. Obviously the elite could have as much of whatever they wanted, they probably did eat meat but they really liked their bread. Clearly very much to their detriment.

    • @markhedger6378
      @markhedger6378 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@therealdeal3672honey soaked pastries perhaps , so hard to resist

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg 10 місяців тому +1

      The main difference would probably be the amount of sand in the bread, and the amount of honey at best.

  • @davidslater9297
    @davidslater9297 11 місяців тому +1

    Davo here from sunny beautiful Australia.
    Here we go, over and over !
    The "right"diet,the "correct",the "best",the "only" etc.
    The right,correct,best,only diet for us is the one for us that sets us on a path to healthy,fit,active,happy,content and overflowing with gratitude,empathy and compassion...all the above that lets us sail on into a long health span with no health issues or medications.
    When you find the diet that does that for you you are on a "winning ticket".It might be keto,carnivore,vegetarian or vegan,etc.
    My Lovely wife and I found our "winning ticket" 30 years ago.
    I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I didn't "leave home" till I was about 50,"leaving home"is a sometimes used analogy for finally deciding to think for oneself as opposed to believing everything we have been told and or taught by our parents,teachers,the government and media to do with our culture. It's time to sharpen our critical thinking skills and employ more logic,critical observation,ethics etc.
    My wife and I were brought up on the standard Australian diet (appropriate acronym SAD) BUT we were waking up with nightmares knowing we were supporting industries that had a business model that condones lack of empathy,lack of compassion,cruelty and exploitation,especially females ( think caged hens at 10 per square meter,sows in farrowing crates and of course the ghastly,ghastly dairy industry where raping and stealing is part of their business as usual).
    After watching "Forks over Knives","What the health", "Cow Spiracy", "Sea Spiracy" and "Eating Our Way to Extinction"
    The only way to keep eating animal products with peace in our hearts is if we are able to master a few traits and three spring to mind:
    Selective compassion.
    An ability to disconnect from reality.
    An unwillingness to confront inconvenient truths.
    We are not comfortable living with those character traits.
    Our "winning ticket"diet choice has given us: healthy, fit,active,happy,content,overflowing with gratitude,empathy and compassion.
    NO health issues or medications,both as strong as an Ox amazing endurance and with very sharp critical thinking skills that saved us from some deadly awful shit over the covid "things"
    I just completed my 79th trip around the sun and decided to celebrate with a backwards somersault off Moona Moona bridge at Huskisson, only 2 minutes on UA-cam but you might get a laugh 😂.
    @davidslater9297

    • @francescaerreia8859
      @francescaerreia8859 10 місяців тому +1

      You think your diet works but have you tried carnivore? I tried it on a whim, as a joke, thinking it would make me feel bad. I had no health issues. My current diet was “working” just fine for me. But holy crap when I switched to carnivore I felt incredible and discovered I had no idea what I was missing before. I feel superhuman eating this way. My old “normal” was indeed pathological but without trying carnivore I never would’ve know .

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand 11 місяців тому +24

    Egyptians were also addicted to honey, which is loaded with fructose. Richard Johnson says fructose is the main driver of heart disease...

    • @alancameron6937
      @alancameron6937 11 місяців тому +5

      ......and beer and wine and dates and figs

    • @ronaldlenz5745
      @ronaldlenz5745 11 місяців тому +3

      About the same as high fructose corn syrup.

    • @therealdeal3672
      @therealdeal3672 11 місяців тому +9

      So I bet they came up with the tasty combination of bread, butter and honey! They thought they had invented heaven, but it was killing them!

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 3 місяці тому

      Richard Johnson is a quack just like this guy, it's doesn't matter he says. Heart disease is comprised entirely of cholesterol and saturated fat, those are the drivers. Eskimos mummies reveal heart disease to, on an all meat diet, what's the excuse there.

  • @Starchaser63
    @Starchaser63 3 місяці тому

    Its 5 am and I've just eaten a meal of fried chicken smothered with mozzarella cheese. I will eat another meal based on meat, peanut butter, glass of milk around midday then eat nothing else until early tomorrow morning around 4 or 5 am, this works fine for me, perhaps others may differ slightly to suit their personal preference. The important thing is a protein and fat based along with around 16 to 18 hours until next meal the following day..for me this is perfect 👌

  • @robertkacala
    @robertkacala 11 місяців тому +5

    My dog is crushing the bones to get Bone marrow

    • @barblacy619
      @barblacy619 11 місяців тому

      My daughter in law was scandalized that I would suggest feeding her poor dog bones he might choke!!

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg 10 місяців тому

      @@barblacy619 it's a great source of glycine and collagen.

  • @margaretcraig6538
    @margaretcraig6538 10 місяців тому

    Fascinating

  • @david56681
    @david56681 Місяць тому

    can I find the slides somewhere please? Thanks.

  • @hazynpeterson4083
    @hazynpeterson4083 5 місяців тому

    great presentation other than highly implausible we hunted all megafauna to extinction ...look up 'the younger dryas asteroid impact'...makes alot more sense ...shortly after agriculture pops up

  • @aramalluninja
    @aramalluninja 11 місяців тому +1

    can you please put a video on new health fad in india called millets?

    • @HealingLifeKwikly
      @HealingLifeKwikly 11 місяців тому

      "can you please put a video on new health fad in india called millets?" Uhhh, millet is a very healthy grain that people have been eating for thousands of years.

  • @MrUncleBob
    @MrUncleBob 2 місяці тому

    Hmmm, what I gathered from this is that the Egyptian diet was unbalanced, with too much bread and too little plant foods and meat? Cut the bread, but keep the unprocessed carbs instead… that seems more prudent?

  • @francesgraham5411
    @francesgraham5411 11 місяців тому +2

    Now you tell me vegan diets don’t work! Lol. Tried plant based for more than 2 years, became pre diabetic and allergic to lots of things, just plain unhealthy. Since going LCHF health issues have resolved and all blood tests normal.

  • @tonybennett638
    @tonybennett638 11 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @ActivateMission2ThisTimeline
    @ActivateMission2ThisTimeline 9 місяців тому

    When we gave manufacturing to the Eastern countries we now useWarAndSicknessAs our models for a economic system😢.

  • @GlennMarshallnz
    @GlennMarshallnz 11 місяців тому +4

    But this doesn’t apply to modern humans on a vegan diet who courtesy of synthetic supplements look much healthy e.g. Michael Gregor, Neil Barnard, James Cameron. 😂

    • @hektor6766
      @hektor6766 11 місяців тому

      They appear to be robust anthropes.

  • @hektor6766
    @hektor6766 9 місяців тому +1

    "Humans beings evolved under circumstances in which food, particularly rich foods SUCH AS MEAT (my emphasis), was scarce." -Biochemistry. Berg et al, 8th ed. (2015). This is the problem. Sure, it might be a challenge to catch a rabbit or pig (or an assortment of other small animals), spear a fish, fell a bird or steal some eggs (how hard is that?), more challenging but rewarding to hunt bison, rhinocerous, deer, mastodon, mammoth, ox, horse, antelope, mouflon (sheep), ibex (goat), bear, dog, seal, walrus, etc (but not hard to find any time of year); but how scarce were edible grains or fruits, nuts, vegetables or tubers, especially out of season, before the invention of agriculture? But unsubstantiated, inconsistent with paleobiological evidence, and even counterintuitive statements like these in textbooks very recently and perhaps to this day go unchallenged and uncorrected.

  • @DrB-cb1by
    @DrB-cb1by Місяць тому

    Looks like his diet has done wonders for him.

  • @nolensvolens1899
    @nolensvolens1899 9 місяців тому

    Then why didn’t meat eaters create a high culture?

  • @Yiayia3
    @Yiayia3 11 місяців тому +27

    Why can't we choose to be low carb because it's healthier than the standard American sugary processed foods diets without believing the lies that we were once apes. We were never Apes any other kind of primate. We were created human in the image of God separate from the animals completely different thousands of years ago, not millions. But I will still choose to be low carb because it's better than the sad diet

    • @meathead365
      @meathead365 11 місяців тому +6

      I'm a primate

    • @z00011001
      @z00011001 11 місяців тому +1

      We became human eating bone marrow. Mind that no other animals can eat bone marrow from large bones because they cannot break it. Humans were the first to break it using stones.
      Rest is history.

    • @Whiskey.Tango.Actual
      @Whiskey.Tango.Actual 11 місяців тому +1

      You can choose to do that. Yes.

    • @cc2020-d4w
      @cc2020-d4w 11 місяців тому +1

      In response to Yiayia3 comment: Well said!!! I 100% agree with you COMPLETELY! Excellent talk & the case about low carb being ancestrally appropriate for the human species but why can't we be low carb & still recognize & accept the creation account as fact! I don't believe in evolution either. But I believe low carb is the proper human diet too!
      Meat on! Heal on! 🧈 🍳 🍖 🥓 🥩 🍗🦐 🦀 🥛

    • @margomoore4527
      @margomoore4527 11 місяців тому +1

      The old testament makes it clear that meat and milk are what we are supposed to be eating, plus the 7 traditional fruits etc grown in Israel. Definitely figs, dates, pomegranates and I think apricots….

  • @saliksayyar9793
    @saliksayyar9793 11 місяців тому

    The ‘ice man’ had advanced atherosclerosis. Does not mean the evolutionary diet helped to live a long healthy life. Short and brutish.

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg 10 місяців тому

      What was his diet

    • @francescaerreia8859
      @francescaerreia8859 10 місяців тому +1

      The masai eating traditional diets had atherosclerosis too and yet, none died due to what the “disease” supposedly causes, heart attacks or strokes or more. Which suggests it’s not actually a good marker of anything.

  • @gerryfernandez8679
    @gerryfernandez8679 10 місяців тому

    Fairy tales for people that are too blind to see that God created man.
    Random chance cannot create order. It takes more faith to believe in this God denying lie than obvious observation that the complexity we see is random.

  • @HealingLifeKwikly
    @HealingLifeKwikly 11 місяців тому

    In reality, lots of evidence proves that early humans and their ancestors ate lots of plant foods at most places and most points in our history. And the span of diets ranges from nearly vegan to nearly carnivore. Having said that, it's totally unscientific to think that what early humans ate at some cherry-picked point in our history proves anything about what is healthiest for us to eat now. It doesn't and can't. All that matters is evidence regarding overall long-term health outcomes, and that evidence strongly favors diets dominated by whole plant foods.

    • @przemysawukawski4741
      @przemysawukawski4741 11 місяців тому

      Where is that evidence you are saying? In observational studies probably, yes? :)

    • @francescaerreia8859
      @francescaerreia8859 10 місяців тому

      It’s not unscientific, it’s evolution. And it applies to the diets of every other animal and creature on the planet.
      And there is lots of evidence of plant eating but only in modern humans going back the last hundred thousand years or so, but it’s frequently a one-off specific to some culture at some time - some legumes here in this society, some grains in that one, some seeds in this other, etc which doesn’t help us generalize about humanity as a whole and was likely done due to a lack of animal products available. Whereas we have roughly 2.5 million years of such high meat eating throughout most of it that, as stated in this talk, isotopic bone analysis shows us to have been hyper carnivorous.
      We’re hunters. We’re apex predators. Meat has been prized and always eaten by primitive cultures when available.

  • @NancyEvansUSA
    @NancyEvansUSA 11 місяців тому +1

    This guy always has to throw in right wing political nonsense. It's a shame.

  • @Morticia147
    @Morticia147 11 місяців тому

    Sorry, but the tests on Mummies are not representative. Only the rich had the money to be burried that way, statues and so on show always the ideal not the reality. If you go like that, the people in the future would think we where a society of Supermodels. The majority of ancient Egypts are totally gone. I don't say that a ton of grain is a good idea, but this Mummy stuff is nonsense for me.

    • @wendyscott8425
      @wendyscott8425 11 місяців тому

      And yet he pointed out that apparently, all kinds of people got mummified, not just the rich. And the evidence showed in their teeth and in other cardiovascular conditions.

    • @DaDitDa
      @DaDitDa 11 місяців тому +3

      At 28:20 he begins to explain that he found stable isotope studies of various levels of societal classes that showed all levels of societal classes exhibited atherosclerosis.

    • @cc2020-d4w
      @cc2020-d4w 11 місяців тому +2

      @@DaDitDa yup! Thank you for mentioning this for those who find it hard to accept the information regarding ancient Egyptians

    • @hektor6766
      @hektor6766 11 місяців тому

      @@cc2020-d4w Or who didn't pay attention to the presentation.

    • @peterliemareff8894
      @peterliemareff8894 23 дні тому

      Agree

  • @uffa00001
    @uffa00001 11 місяців тому +1

    Does not demonstrate anything. We don't have mummies of prehistoric hunters and we cannot compare their relative health. You eat what is available, which is not necessarily what is best for you. In order to understand what are we evolved for we must analyze what we ate 50.000 years ago but, so to speak, 30 millions years ago. Hunting is a cultural adaptation. If I give you a rabbit and tell you to eat it, you wouldn't know where to begin from, while a wolf would eat it with the same ease we eat an apple.

    • @russvet
      @russvet 11 місяців тому

      I know.

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg 10 місяців тому

      Compare with the data of the Ancient Greek of the same time, and...?

    • @vplan
      @vplan 8 місяців тому

      as american or european, you clearly will not know what to do... keep showing your ignorance... West became a parasite

  • @neiljoseph1126
    @neiljoseph1126 11 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting talk