The jets operated in the airspace of my native Finland and this was noted in a report in Helsingin Sanomat, the largest circulation daily in the country.
God Bless The Royal Navy and UKCSG love and salute from India♥️👑🇬🇧🇮🇳 and Watch out China in Indo Pacific,we also have trouble and problems with them ,God Save The King
HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Queen Elizabeth were due to take part in the largest Nato exercise since the Cold War, called Operation Steadfast Defender, which has been organised in the wake of Russia’s heightened threat to European security. HMS Prince of Wales was supposed to set off for Norway on Sunday for the exercises later this month but the departure was cancelled at the last moment. It had been brought in to replace HMS Queen Elizabeth, which failed to depart from Portsmouth Harbour a week earlier due to an “issue” found in final checks with the starboard propeller coupling. It will now head to Rosyth in Scotland to receive repairs to address “wear and tear”, according to the Royal Navy.
Britain stil has far too few F-35B jets for its two fine aircraft carriers and, in particular far too few Fleet Air Arm jets, who are dedicated to carrier operations.
That's true. In theory we'll have enough for our plan of operating 1 carrier on deployment at a time and RAF duties, though squadrons are taking their time. Will be good when 809 NAS comes online. Should be solely for the carriers I assume.
A decent amount, however the RAF will be using at least half of those. Will make it work though it'll be good to get the naval squadrons online so that the two can stop squabbling over deploying them where 😅
We have 'too few' because of poor delivery from our American 'friends'. But even so we could put 2 squadrons of 12 x 5th Gen aircraft on two carriers right now. Only one other country can do that. We ordered 48, we only have 30 after 10 years but have funded a further 32 as the second tranche. And by the way the UK does not dedicate aircraft to specific roles (carrier vs other) or ships. Never has. The principle proven by the Harrier Force of shared aircraft has been extended and is used for the F-35B. There is no way we would have aircraft on a carrier in home port as that is a) a huge risk and b) a waste of a costly resource.
@@1chishYou originally pledged to buy more than 3x that number. If your orders have a reduced priority, it's not surprising, since you turned yourself into a minor customer. Having said that, I don't think that's the case. Whatever issues there are with scaling production are affecting everyone, not just you. It is not a matter of us no longer being quote "friends" unquote.
Great video, excellent quality, and was interesting to watch! As a side note, there's just something sadly lacking now in the "take off" command, something much less dramatic than the old (I mean, it still happens on other ships with most other aircraft) hand wave, the point to go... And now hearing the engine wind up as the plane slowly starts forward 😳 I mean, I get it, that's the versatility of these VSTOL aircraft and the potential this brings is huge! True, that leap off the ramped deck is cool. I just kind of miss that 'Top Gun' moment of the final GO!, and the plane lurching forward with already screaming engines as the catapult fires it ahead, launching it off the deck - WHOOSH! 😎 You know what I mean? 😉
QE is nowhere near the USA or has any US people on board. PoW is using shared Orange Wired test aircraft to define the operating envelope for SRVL and the new Bedford Array landing system together with other testing. It just happens those shared aircraft are in the Eastern USA like our 3 weapons integration aircraft are in California.
The B model has it’s place in the UK defense forces, but I think they should have mixed in a few A or C models. B has shortest range, smallest weapons load and lowest “g” rating of the 3 variants.
and no upgrades both a+c version are on block 4 ... 4 upgrades in performance and tactical abilities but none for the b .. and to top it the raf has to have b version so the navy can steal them
I long for a time when British aircraft carriers and strike aircraft are British designed and manufactured , as used to be the case, and not bought from our very good friends the US. We have the skills to create our own aircraft.....let's show the world what British engineering can do and not just settle for buying aircraft from our dear friends the other side of the Atlantic! God knows they would respect us all the more for doing so!
To be fair, the UK were working on a replacement for the Harrier before joining the F-35 program. Much of that development was on the fly by wire control system in vertical flight, this was rolled into the F-35B, one of the reasons why the first flight of the X-35B prototype was flown by a British test pilot from BAE Systems.
I agree, although the carriers themselves are British through and through. You need more carriers, IMHO. Be that as it may, I just want to salute all the sailors and pilots training up and operating on the proud ships Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales. Salute to one and all from a retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer in the Pacific Northwest, USA.
Far too many bellends in the comments thinking they are experts on aircraft and aircraft carriers ! The same people were concrete experts on UA-cam a few weeks ago. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What we av to relise they r work in progress snx e en the f35 b t a 30 yr jump in tecnolagy over the harrier , wel get ther 72 f35bs 48 f35 As ,3 gdp, 6 more typ31, 4x more awacs ,
@@admiralmallard7500 Are you sure? I looked up which squadron was using the lightning flash on the fin and, unless the search browser was lying to me, that makes them 207 sqn.
@@admiralmallard7500 Looking into it more my assumption that 207 a/c use the lightning flash and 617 a/c don't appears to be simplistic and possibly just wrong. 🤔
What, QE hasn't broken down? I used to wonder why all these brand new RN ships were always breaking down, but I realised that I failed to factor in the quality of the average RN recruit. Doh! The recruits aren't very bright and those training them aren't much better. I guess the RN has to take what they can get. Everybody I've ever known who was in the RN was at best of average intelligence. Most didn't even reach that standard. I can safely state that a whole ship's company working together couldn't pass the 11+.
We've built a huge carrier with only a handful of planes to fly from it ... And not enough ships to support and defend the carrier. The Russians & Chinese are laughing.
Russia? They're literally a laughing stock when it comes to aircraft carriers, their only carrier is a soviet era heap of junk that hasn't been operational in years due to multiple fires, a crane falling through the flight deck and their floating drydock sinking (This was all while they were trying to repair the thing). Even when it was operational, they brought a tug along with it due to how unreliable it was. China has little experience with carriers, they only first started operating them around 10 years ago after modifying another soviet era carrier they bought. Although they are catching up, and are in a far better position than Russia. The UK has on order 48 F-35Bs and have comitted to a further 26 after that. They have 33 so far, but they're still waiting on the rest to be produced. That being said, these carriers were specifically designed around an air wing of 36 F-35Bs, they were scaled much larger to make it possible to hit a specific sortie rate with that airwing. What a lot of people seemingly fail to realise is that you don't build two carriers expecting to operate them both at the same time. You build multiple carriers to guarantee at least one is available, since there are long periods of maintenance, training, refits etc. Two carriers means they should have one available most of the time, and they are able to pretty much fill that one to the designed capacity if required, even before receiving the rest of their F-35 order.
They won't be laughing when they come up against these bad boys,the most advanced fighters in the world out there bar none. One F35 is equivalent to 10 obsolete Migs or J-20s!😂
The lack of available aircraft (around 40, so enough to fill a carrier if we needed to) is due to the rate of production in the US. We've got 48 on order and 72 fully funded, it just depends when they roll off the production line
I do wish our deck crew wouldn't do that cringe American kung-fu when they take off, it's not very British. A casual thumb over the shoulder to indicate "Yeah you can sod off too..." would suffice.
shame they are using the very worst version of f35 ,the F35B version .... the f35a+c (a=fighter c= carrier version) are on block 4 ......4 upgrades with huge performance and tactical upgrades .... the b is none, who is likely to pay for any research for upgrades on the b version .... the UK .... and we still don't have enough to fill one carrier and its not even planned for the near future ...so lets spend 4 billion on a second carrier when don't even have enough aircraft to use on one ????? i would suggest someone may be getting a back-hander here ???? and to top that the R.A.F. are also forced to have the B VERSION because they want it for the Navy!!!!!!!....what utter crap
B version is drastically better than Harriers and in range better than an F18, so it's not a bad deal. Also RAF would not want C variants either. Also 2 carriers is a minimum requirement, were not going yo operate both full loaded at the same time. And if we'd only made 1 we'd have periods with no carrier at all during refits and such.
@@admiralmallard7500 so you agreed its the worst version possible and having 2 carriers when you don't even have f35b's enough for one ? are you the one getting the back hander? or are you dreaming ...lets spend your money instead..
Well have enough for both once they've all been delivered, and it's still a better jet than most carrier capable aircraft today. Also I live in the UK so yeh it is my money being spent lol
0:51 Now THAT is a badass shot ! 😎💥👑
The jets operated in the airspace of my native Finland and this was noted in a report in Helsingin Sanomat, the largest circulation daily in the country.
God Bless The Royal Navy and UKCSG love and salute from India♥️👑🇬🇧🇮🇳 and Watch out China in Indo Pacific,we also have trouble and problems with them ,God Save The King
God bless India too
Looks like a blast!
More pilots getting carrier certification and the carrier's crew getting more experience.
Warming up for 2025 it seems
HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Queen Elizabeth were due to take part in the largest Nato exercise since the Cold War, called Operation Steadfast Defender, which has been organised in the wake of Russia’s heightened threat to European security.
HMS Prince of Wales was supposed to set off for Norway on Sunday for the exercises later this month but the departure was cancelled at the last moment.
It had been brought in to replace HMS Queen Elizabeth, which failed to depart from Portsmouth Harbour a week earlier due to an “issue” found in final checks with the starboard propeller coupling. It will now head to Rosyth in Scotland to receive repairs to address “wear and tear”, according to the Royal Navy.
Lookin' slick!
Impressive!
Sure I heard one of these take off this morning.
Britain stil has far too few F-35B jets for its two fine aircraft carriers and, in particular far too few Fleet Air Arm jets, who are dedicated to carrier operations.
That's true. In theory we'll have enough for our plan of operating 1 carrier on deployment at a time and RAF duties, though squadrons are taking their time.
Will be good when 809 NAS comes online. Should be solely for the carriers I assume.
It has the 2nd largest modern fast air fleet at sea in the world. There's plenty more coming. 70-80 total.
A decent amount, however the RAF will be using at least half of those. Will make it work though it'll be good to get the naval squadrons online so that the two can stop squabbling over deploying them where 😅
We have 'too few' because of poor delivery from our American 'friends'. But even so we could put 2 squadrons of 12 x 5th Gen aircraft on two carriers right now. Only one other country can do that.
We ordered 48, we only have 30 after 10 years but have funded a further 32 as the second tranche.
And by the way the UK does not dedicate aircraft to specific roles (carrier vs other) or ships. Never has. The principle proven by the Harrier Force of shared aircraft has been extended and is used for the F-35B. There is no way we would have aircraft on a carrier in home port as that is a) a huge risk and b) a waste of a costly resource.
@@1chishYou originally pledged to buy more than 3x that number. If your orders have a reduced priority, it's not surprising, since you turned yourself into a minor customer. Having said that, I don't think that's the case. Whatever issues there are with scaling production are affecting everyone, not just you. It is not a matter of us no longer being quote "friends" unquote.
Great video, excellent quality, and was interesting to watch!
As a side note, there's just something sadly lacking now in the "take off" command, something much less dramatic than the old (I mean, it still happens on other ships with most other aircraft) hand wave, the point to go... And now hearing the engine wind up as the plane slowly starts forward 😳
I mean, I get it, that's the versatility of these VSTOL aircraft and the potential this brings is huge! True, that leap off the ramped deck is cool.
I just kind of miss that 'Top Gun' moment of the final GO!, and the plane lurching forward with already screaming engines as the catapult fires it ahead, launching it off the deck - WHOOSH! 😎
You know what I mean? 😉
Full respect for each and everyone concerned. Comforting to know you're there. 👍 👍
They're hanging around the Americans too much. Still a very dangerous job.
QE is nowhere near the USA or has any US people on board.
PoW is using shared Orange Wired test aircraft to define the operating envelope for SRVL and the new Bedford Array landing system together with other testing. It just happens those shared aircraft are in the Eastern USA like our 3 weapons integration aircraft are in California.
Meanwhile on social media: 'our carrier has no aircraft'
The B model has it’s place in the UK defense forces, but I think they should have mixed in a few A or C models. B has shortest range, smallest weapons load and lowest “g” rating of the 3 variants.
Agreed except that the C model is only useful if we have a traditional carrier with cat's and traps.
Splitting the fleet is pointless. Any other F-35s won't be on the carriers then.
How do you expect the c to launch? There’s no catapult on the British carriers.
and no upgrades both a+c version are on block 4 ... 4 upgrades in performance and tactical abilities but none for the b .. and to top it the raf has to have b version so the navy can steal them
A models make a lot of sense, C models would if they built actual carriers.
I long for a time when British aircraft carriers and strike aircraft are British designed and manufactured , as used to be the case, and not bought from our very good friends the US. We have the skills to create our own aircraft.....let's show the world what British engineering can do and not just settle for buying aircraft from our dear friends the other side of the Atlantic! God knows they would respect us all the more for doing so!
Britian had a big input of the design and build of the F35.
There is a plan to do so the Tempest by BAE.
To be fair, the UK were working on a replacement for the Harrier before joining the F-35 program. Much of that development was on the fly by wire control system in vertical flight, this was rolled into the F-35B, one of the reasons why the first flight of the X-35B prototype was flown by a British test pilot from BAE Systems.
I agree, although the carriers themselves are British through and through. You need more carriers, IMHO. Be that as it may, I just want to salute all the sailors and pilots training up and operating on the proud ships Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales. Salute to one and all from a retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer in the Pacific Northwest, USA.
@@drscopeify Which has become GCAP and the UK will now team with the Italians and Japanese as the Brits can't afford to go it alone.
Don’t forget to take the covers off the intakes…
They were both taken off but the port side one was left lying flat inside the intake.
I have flown this in VR!
Far too many bellends in the comments thinking they are experts on aircraft and aircraft carriers ! The same people were concrete experts on UA-cam a few weeks ago. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And that ladies and gentlemen is how the British do it. Fast, easy and professional.
Good thing we uk England have this air carftcarriers
"UK England" ???
England is only one of the four countries of the UK Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland what are you talking about
Sorry, I had to play the top gun main titles theme while watching this
Fly Navy 👍
Would love to see these bad boys in combat action!
🙌👏👏👍
Increíble se ve el bicho ese, Reino Unido con 12 embarcados de esos le mete miedo a cualquiera.
What we av to relise they r work in progress snx e en the f35 b t a 30 yr jump in tecnolagy over the harrier , wel get ther 72 f35bs 48 f35 As ,3 gdp, 6 more typ31, 4x more awacs ,
Someone put Private Pike-Shapps aka Michael Green in a broom cupboard or he might send British troops and the Royal Navy to the eastern Mediterranean.
I know you are operating a huge amount of aircraft. Please remember to remove all intake covers before launch. Poor bloody tax payer
it,s time this government spent some money on more aircraft. for our carriers. .look at this world. you might see what i mean.
207 squadron aircraft
This is 617 squadron. Next one to come online should be 809 NAS
@@admiralmallard7500 Are you sure? I looked up which squadron was using the lightning flash on the fin and, unless the search browser was lying to me, that makes them 207 sqn.
@@admiralmallard7500 Looking into it more my assumption that 207 a/c use the lightning flash and 617 a/c don't appears to be simplistic and possibly just wrong. 🤔
@Akm72 Oh I see. At a guess all the UK F35s will have that, though I hope they do some other types of tail art.
207 Squadron is the OCU.
A fuckin ramp! Lol.
Champ ramp.
champ ramp
Indeed. Most popular method of carrier launch these days 😉
Nothing to go wrong with a ramp , No mechanical parts to F. U.... If it's good enough for Evil Keneival , It's good enough for anyone
@@admiralmallard7500 see USS Wasp.
What, QE hasn't broken down? I used to wonder why all these brand new RN ships were always breaking down, but I realised that I failed to factor in the quality of the average RN recruit. Doh! The recruits aren't very bright and those training them aren't much better. I guess the RN has to take what they can get. Everybody I've ever known who was in the RN was at best of average intelligence. Most didn't even reach that standard. I can safely state that a whole ship's company working together couldn't pass the 11+.
Cry harder gazza
We've built a huge carrier with only a handful of planes to fly from it ... And not enough ships to support and defend the carrier. The Russians & Chinese are laughing.
Russia? They're literally a laughing stock when it comes to aircraft carriers, their only carrier is a soviet era heap of junk that hasn't been operational in years due to multiple fires, a crane falling through the flight deck and their floating drydock sinking (This was all while they were trying to repair the thing). Even when it was operational, they brought a tug along with it due to how unreliable it was.
China has little experience with carriers, they only first started operating them around 10 years ago after modifying another soviet era carrier they bought. Although they are catching up, and are in a far better position than Russia.
The UK has on order 48 F-35Bs and have comitted to a further 26 after that. They have 33 so far, but they're still waiting on the rest to be produced. That being said, these carriers were specifically designed around an air wing of 36 F-35Bs, they were scaled much larger to make it possible to hit a specific sortie rate with that airwing.
What a lot of people seemingly fail to realise is that you don't build two carriers expecting to operate them both at the same time. You build multiple carriers to guarantee at least one is available, since there are long periods of maintenance, training, refits etc. Two carriers means they should have one available most of the time, and they are able to pretty much fill that one to the designed capacity if required, even before receiving the rest of their F-35 order.
They won't be laughing when they come up against these bad boys,the most advanced fighters in the world out there bar none. One F35 is equivalent to 10 obsolete Migs or J-20s!😂
The lack of available aircraft (around 40, so enough to fill a carrier if we needed to) is due to the rate of production in the US. We've got 48 on order and 72 fully funded, it just depends when they roll off the production line
I do wish our deck crew wouldn't do that cringe American kung-fu when they take off, it's not very British. A casual thumb over the shoulder to indicate "Yeah you can sod off too..." would suffice.
They're internationally recognised hand signals, which make interoperability with other NATO partners far easier
shame they are using the very worst version of f35 ,the F35B version .... the f35a+c (a=fighter c= carrier version) are on block 4 ......4 upgrades with huge performance and tactical upgrades .... the b is none, who is likely to pay for any research for upgrades on the b version .... the UK .... and we still don't have enough to fill one carrier and its not even planned for the near future ...so lets spend 4 billion on a second carrier when don't even have enough aircraft to use on one ????? i would suggest someone may be getting a back-hander here ???? and to top that the R.A.F. are also forced to have the B VERSION because they want it for the Navy!!!!!!!....what utter crap
B version is drastically better than Harriers and in range better than an F18, so it's not a bad deal. Also RAF would not want C variants either.
Also 2 carriers is a minimum requirement, were not going yo operate both full loaded at the same time. And if we'd only made 1 we'd have periods with no carrier at all during refits and such.
@@admiralmallard7500 so you agreed its the worst version possible and having 2 carriers when you don't even have f35b's enough for one ? are you the one getting the back hander? or are you dreaming ...lets spend your money instead..
Well have enough for both once they've all been delivered, and it's still a better jet than most carrier capable aircraft today.
Also I live in the UK so yeh it is my money being spent lol
@@alangunningham5667 There are 70-80 F-35Bs coming, thats plenty for the two carriers.
@@Retrosicotte yep by 2050 not before , a few a year and still the none upgrade worst f35 you can buy and shared with the raf