Ghost Ship of the Baltic Sea: Inside Sweden's Ultimate Stealth Corvette
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- In this video, we will take you inside Swedish Navy's Visby-class stealth corvette, which has been attracting international attention for its cutting-edge technology.
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5:55 The Coffee Maker! The single most important equipment to keep any Swedish company operating! 😂
Måsta ta fika!
cofee + milk = grey hair
Inget kaffe Inget pangpang.
Fact.
Semper Fi! kaffe?
Now just sitt and wait for the internet-engineers to arrive at the comment section 🍿
You mean the WOT and War Thunder Pro Players?
@@t3chn0m0 The sub 1:1 players
@@t3chn0m0 they do have the paperwork brah. lol I still cannot believe the amount of shit that comes out of warthunder forums.
We're here.
The erm actshually squadron
Having served with the Swedish Navy for a year, this is my points from this video:
1. Air defense was intended from the start but was cut due to costs.
2. The helicopter-deck with the helicopter on defeats the whole purpose of the ship, being stealth. Only when the chopper is gone and the transmitter is removed, the ship is stealth.
3. The stealth-capabilities are far from 100% altho much better then most conventional ships. More modern radar will have easier time picking up the signature.
4. Reloading the ship missiles requires the ship to enter a dock, and the process itself is very cumbersome as the missile launchers are integrated into the structure itself.
5. The cost for this type of ship is very high, one could debate whether or not it would be better to upgrade several of the existing older models instead of constructing new ones. For Sweden, i would argue quantity is more important.
6. 3:00 The bridge is truly amazing with a 360 degree angle of view, something which lacked on the older models (usually they had about 270 degree view angle)
7. 3:51 The CIC was highly classified while i was serving. It was strictly forbidden to take photos and visiting relatives were not allowed inside. And i served on a warship constructed in 1985 (HMS Stockholm). With that in mind i find it boggling that everyone on UA-cam gets a first hand sightseeing of the technology used aboard the most modern ship in the Swedish Navy.
8. 5:50 The kitchen is the most important place on the whole ship.
2. Yes, that is why they don't have a helicopter as standard, but it's more so that one can land there if needed. The deck is not really designed for holding a helicopter permanently either and when one was sent abroad with a helicopter along it had to be modified to make the helicopter more safe.
It's pretty insane they cut the air defense due to cost! Debatably air defense is even more important than the anti-ship missles if they still have torpedos... I mean not even a CIWS?!? 🤯
@@HealTheWorldasapThe 57 mm gun is quite good at air defence, it is a development of the 40 mm Bofors anti-aircraft gun used during WW2. Also, combining stealth and air defence is a challenge since you can detect a ship sending out radar signals with passive sensors at a much greater distance than you can detect another ship with radar.
From a cost perspective they were not that bad, just a little more expansive than the finnish Hamina class missile boats.
Point 2 doesn't matter. You would not have helicopter on this vessel when operating normally. I mean with any vessel of this size, helicopters are on there just when it's needed.
@@HealTheWorldasapair defense missiles will be added in the mid-life upgrade planned for the next couple of years.
Sweden has a key role in keeping the world free as we know it. Greetings from Finland.
Together with you guys. 😉
the main thing is that they don’t sell you to Russia like 200 years ago for 2,000,000 rubles
O texto bíblica da criação deixa evidente que as trevas abissais existiam antes da criação da luz. Isto explica porque todo homem tem dentro de si (de sua psiquê) um lado negro que se desperto o domina completamente. Daí a importância de vigiai e orai para não cair em tentação. Mas se quiser ousar, pode se colocar na linha de frente com Cristo, nessa guerra eterna entre o bem e o mal.
hyvä soumi
De que hablas?? Nunca hicieron nada
as a former german navy man, i can only say i am full with envy when i see those ships. i would love to be recruited by the svedish navy anytime.
og jag okså verstor svenska om det behövs :)
Those are sweet ships, with state of the art equippment... i would feel right at home in the CIC
Visby class is a absolut marvle of modern engineering and automation. Basically two people handle the machines and equipment. And the other 30 od people man the computers. As a result it have a fairly small crew and the crew quarters can be really nice and the ship can still be fairly small.
for a combat ship, it doesn't have much weaponry... so if you call that coffeemaker state of the art equipment and feel envy, man oh man, I wonder if you ever served on a real warship, any combat vessel has those weapons, whatever it's job, it lacks firepower and so is nothing to be jealous for
stealth on ships is overrated, there is a reason the US abandoned the idea after 3 proto types, still Zumwalt has it's uses as a platform to test new tech, eventually they'll be putting it full of missile tubes, even long range hypersonic ones, and that's a failed project ! but is still better and has more potential then this toy
However, the US Navy is no longer able to maintain its own warships. Can they maintain their fleet in this state?@@Vanyali
@@Vanyali the zumwalt is DESTROYER you grasp the difference? Probably not.
Verstor
Nästan rätt👍🏻
Det ska vara (Förstår)
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah, I like how they designed the right ship with the right capabilities for their needs
🇸🇪
Well, air defense was intended from the start but was cut due to costs, now finally, the upgrade is planned to include an air defense system. I am also eager to see stats and pictures on the new bigger Visby 2.0 version ordered.
@@benktlofgren4710 oh, ok thanks I didn’t know for the air defense…
Remember that this class is more than 20 years old. First ship was produced in year 2000. The new ships that are designed now will be named
"Luleå-class"
varför just luleå? görs dom i luleå?
@@mr.unknown2374 The surface combat ships in the Swedish navy are traditionally named after Swedish coastal cities that have or have had great importance for the navy.
@@mr.unknown2374 Man (Konungen) beslutade att den nya klassen ska ha namn efter hamnstäder.
Please don't mention new combat ship classes in UA-cam comments, now I've fallen into a Wikipedia whole from which I cannot escape
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official 😃
Sweden is installing CAMM(Sea cepter) on the Visby, starting in 2025. 9 cells carrying 4 missiles each so 36 SAMs per ship, range is 25 km
About time...
Good, I was going to say a nice looking, stealthy hull and great electronics but is underarmed; needs two more ASM’s per side and some SAM’s, which it sounds like they’re getting.
@@nickbeckwith6211
The current Visby class is getting modernised and SAM.
On top of that Sweden has ordered 2 brand new ships ( work name Visby 2,0 ) that are going to be bigger and more heavy armed so they can be more efficient in offshore waters. Even if they say it’s a brand new corvette most naval people say it’s actually a Frigate.
So the “old” Visby will still be a costal ghost with SAMs doing what it’s designed to do, namely hide in the Swedish archipelago ( 200 000 ) islands.
The new ships are going to be the ships that is out there under nato flag
Ne yaparsa yapsın, ne kurarsa kursun. NATO bütün üyeler için ölümcül bir tuzaktır. NATO üyeliği şeytanla işbirliğidir. NATO üyeliğinin sonu mutlak ölümdür, hüsrandır.
NATOに入る前は「自国は自力で守る」を掲げていただけに、挑戦的な開発もやってのけるその姿勢は素晴らしい。
Japan can’t join NATO it’s not I. The North Atlantic region
Heavily backed by the US however.
USA tarafından kafanıza iki tane atom bombası atıldı, buna rağmen USA nın ve NATO nun peşinden gidiyorsunuz. Bir Türk olarak bunu anlayamıyorum.
Оно хозяевам пендостану надо что сателиты лезли дальше континента? Тем более импотентность они показали при агрессии в Ираке и Афганистане даже созданые им ИГИЛ не спровоцировало их сателлитов на агрессию, но вы не переживайте как сателит пендостана по приказу хозяев ваша " демократическая элита " подставит вас под ядерные удары, и кто останится из вас буде благодарить не пендостанцев за ядерную бомбардировку а китайцев!!!!!!
存在は前々から知っていたけど、このSFっぽい主砲展開のギミックは初めて見た。中々興味深い。
I'm surprised the communist Chinese have not stolen that idea already.
It is for reducing the radar cross section. Not a gimmick.
@@1967nusse
日本だと「gimmick」のとらえ方が異なります。
複雑な機構を持ったものを包括的にgimmickととらえます。
@@MetallRhein Ok, my bad, trusting automatic translation :^)
@@1967nusse 👍
You can see Sweden is a Sea Nation and thats a Bigpoint for the Nato.I think Sweden is on of the Best Marines worldwide!
Btw you see all that technology, it actually works unlike that on russian ships.
or US ships
Correct, this is better than everything Russia got.
Russia doesn't have any ships. They only have submarines.
@@duckofdeath3266 russia does have ships
@@CrimsonRaven82 It's a long-running joke based on how Ukrainian Sea Baby drones turns them all into submarines.
You’d better not mess with these units in coastal waters… Ivan
I was expecting a catapult with surströmming
War can be grim, but I think we have to draw the line somewhere.
That weaponry is still classified.
Isn't "surströmming" classified as a chemical weapon? 🤢🤮🥵😂
Baned by the gemeva convention... so only used in a all out war
...you know too much...I😂
The Swedes' ancestors built long boats more than a millennium ago. These were amongst the fastest, maneuverable and versatile war vessels of their time. Able to strike when and where the target would least suspect it.
This corvette reminds me very much of an equivalent modern war ship. Except the arrows have been replaced by missiles, and there are cannons instead of spears.
@@HarvestMoonHowl don’t forget Vasa
@@vansting Well Vasa was a complete failure, it sank its first voyage thanks to it being to heavily weaponised and the design couldent handle that weight. wich made it tip over eventually on the side
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 oh I know my history. But still it’s the most powerful warship we ever built together with her sister ship, Äpplet (Apple) but we didn’t have much use for them more then spending a hell of a lot of tax money.
The apple was sunk outside Vaxholm in 1659 to be part of a barrier that would prevent the enemy from reaching Stockholm by sea.
@@vansting Well, i wasent sure that u where Swedish until now. Well i guess u can tell im Swedish atleast, not many ppl named "Karlsson" outside of Sweden
@@vansting well, believe it or not, things change in 400 years. Jesus….comparing this with Vasa. 😂
Powerful. Future is here.
You know it’s good kit when the Russian and Chinese bots come out in force 😂🫡
T as le droit d y croire.
What a beautiful ship class.
And a new class is on its way, the larger and more heavily armed Luleå class stealth corvette.
I like the chinese and russian bots going haywire in the comments.
@@dlmdee What a fantastic wall of text! You seem quite confused, talking about too many things. FOCUS!
Sadly for the ruzzians, their ships have a tendency to all become permanent submarines sooner or later. So sad.
Modern-day Viking war ships.
Those Vikings have come a long way!
You know it's good when Chinese and Russian bots get worried. Perfect for Sweden and their waters. Would be nice to have them in Australia but I doubt they've got the range.
they are great for a war against an enemy that has no aviation like america has been doing for years lol
Meanwhile, are you guys OK with having Swedish tourists? Australia is on the very top of my dream list of countries to visit! 😂
Sweden itself is abandoning the project for the Luleå-class, tell me how much "you know it's good" ?
@@goodshipkaraboudjan Visby class is truly streamlined for the shallow Baltic sea with its layers of layers of water making sonar detection very difficult. Visby's sonar equipment and torpedoes, the stealth, the size are all made for that specific environment.
@@MrFalut "Abandoning" is a word seeking for drama. The Visby class is still evolving into gen 6, still needed. But the Russian aggression shows that we need to supplement with larger ships (75 -> 100m) more focused on AA, even though Visby gen 6 will be equipped with Sea Ceptor and CAMM, and since earlier with Bofors 57 mm cannon with 3P ammunition, efficient and effective.
Many superpowers but their faith in large frigates and cruisers and massive submarines and I understand it. They are meant for warfare in large oceans.
But scandinavia and Finland's coasts are riddled with small islands and relatively shallow waters. That makes use of such large vessels negligible. Whereas these kind of corvets can easily overwhelm them when closing in.
Oh thanks, mate! I'll use that info next time i play War Thunder, where that logic belongs 😂😂
Also Finland: *orders a corvette class that's as big as some country's frigate*
@@TheLifeOfKane Littoral waters need ships that can operate there, considering the shallow straits and some 30,000 islands in Stockholm archipelago for instance
That being said the new corvette class on order by the Swedish navy will be bigger to meet a different operational need
All old models for naval warfare have been basically scrapped due to advances in loitering munitions, networked sensors and latest generation missiles. This just stupid waste of money.
Visby class have 8 rbs 15C anti ship missiles. That is plenty dangerus for anything closer than 200km
５７ミリ砲のギミック好き
ｶﾞｼｮﾝｶﾞﾝｯ!ﾄﾞﾝﾄﾞﾝﾄﾞﾝﾄﾞﾝﾄﾞﾝ!(擬音)
なんかエロくて好き()
Its not a gimmick its to reduce radar signature when not deployed
@@andersmalmgren6528 Probably lost in translation, wouldn't trust YT auto translation.
@@KalleKofot true, I saw several japanese comments using the word gimmick. So it probably means something else
ボフォースが全てを解決する
これだけ重武装でヘリまで運用できてよくこのサイズに収めたもんだ
コンパクトボディにあれこれ詰め込んで、まるで軽巡洋艦夕張のようだ（艦載機は積めなかったけど）
A leap forward from the Wasa 😊
And wood, i love that they still use wood in naval ships!
Inga telegraftister i dagens flotta....härligt stor byssa
Instagrafister kanske?
Looks like an effective weapon system.
It is.
Looks very capable...
This is awesome. I hope Philippine Navy will acquire this kind of Ship
スウェーデンの兵器ってアメリカ製とはまた違ったハイテク感あって陸海空どれもかっこいいよなあ
主砲の展開ギミックかっこよすぎる！
Troll troll troll troll.......... Comy bastard
Of course, You guys, and gals in Japan love origami 😁, it's cultural..
Its meant to reduce the ship's RCS.
WHAT A BEAUTY! She would look great flanking the ZUMWALT as these look just like mini ZUMWALTS!
before the first fight with the Russians
Zumwalt looks like the Visbys
@@dmitrykonnov2330 Россия без диктатора Путина! Голосуйте за или против или оставляйте комментарии, если вы поддерживаете это.
Good combat ships in the Baltic Sea area and likewise
Probably the best looking ship I've ever seen! 👍
Nice looking boat!
Swedes, we 🙏, have a extremely high competence in making awesome weapons.
小型艦だから、やはり艦内環境は狭そうですね。主砲のモードチェンジの速さには驚きました。
It have a fairly small crew for it's size making it less cramped then most warships.
For example the Tarantul class corvette is only 56m long while Visby is 73m, but the former have 50 crew while Visby have 43.
These ship designs look like they came right out of an anime series like "Ghost in the Shell".
この艦めっちゃ好き❤
‘Kin ‘ell!
“Wanna see what I’m packing…? Y’do? Y’really do?”
ステルス艦故か、なかなか見れない貴重な動画をありがとう。
CIC is massive for a corvette...woa! US Navy take a look at how a littorial combat ship has to look like.
比較的に波浪が少なく、場所によっては喫水の浅い沿岸を防衛するには最適な艦艇だと思いました。
波浪が高く荒天も多い西太平洋の外洋まで防衛する日本の艦艇とは全く異なった設計思想であることに少し驚きます。
それから、船内の調度に木材の色があるのはとても良いと感じました。
It is supposed to be a hit-and-run ship. I served with the swedish navy, but not on this ship.
ヨーロッパについてよく波浪が小さいと言われるけど、大西洋は太平洋や日本海と同じかそれ以上に波浪が高い。地中海も。バルト海と瀬戸内海を類似で考える人多いようだが、規模も気候もぜんぜん違う。バルト海で使えるなら地球上のどこでも使える。逆に日本の沿岸用船舶はバルト海では無理でしょう。
My next yacht!
Beau bâtiment, les Suedois peuvent être fiers d'eux !
砲塔のカバーってあんな勢いよく開くんですね！
Here's a warship the Philippines ought to consider investing into their navy. My recommendation is six of these stealth warships.
Visby class lacks size and range that the Philippine Navy disires.
Look at Philippine Navy's new corvette class, it's bigger than their own and neighbours' frigates.
I would then rather concider the new Luleå-class Corvette from Sweden. Its based off of these ships, but bigger and more modern. Visby-class is about 20 years old now (though tech inside has been upgraded).
Swedish Navy, shows their high-tech ships are capable off and they got nothing to hide 😉
いつもながら、スェーデンは独自色溢れているな〜♬
今NATO諸国の海軍が建造している艦艇や日本のもがみ型って、間違いなくこの設計思想が源流だよね(2000年6月進水/2012年12月就役)
It is indeed so. Sweden and US had a cooperation back in the 90s. Which resulted eventually in the Visby Class Corvette, but US later on decided to follow thru aswell and thats why the Zumwalt class exists.
living quarters = a single officer stateroom
epic
艦橋は木材が使われていて落ち着きますな。
Comy troll
@Nedroj Calm down. Just like us swedes, the Japanese can appreciate a bit of wood decor and the use of natural materials, even on the bridge of a high tech combat vessel.
@@johnnilss Du verkar verkligen vara en riktig svenne. Nice try.
@@Nedrojär det nedroj från feber?
ピラミッドが海を走ってる？？？？
Ah and the instruction manuals are full of pictograms like IKEA! But, seriously, the wake is huge. Must be quite visible on radar.
Normaly, when you record video inside any ship's CIC, everything is blurry..
because most of the time, they film ships on oceans/mission & dont want anyone to know where thwy really are:...... these ships are ALWAYS in&around the coasts, soooo no need to hide their current location, really!
HOLY moly
7:19 Is that the Royal Dutch Navy amphibious transport ship L800 ZrMs. Rotterdam LPD?
バルト海の幽霊船ってかっこいいなぁ
Sweet
What a gorgeous ship!
Taiwan should buy 100 of these.
ウォータージェットのもくもくしゅごい
Chiếc tàu chạy nhanh quá, tặng Việt Nam 1 chiếc để tuần tra Biển đi bạn!❤❤❤
sorry, West countries don't sell warships to communist countries.
Yeah, both Nam and the Philippines could use the bigger version of this one to sneak up on Chinese intruders and chase them away.
Looks nice and stealthy too. Surprised no phalanx type weaponry in such a seemingly close support vessel.
The main gun doubles as close in defense.
Less rate of fire, but can fire air-burst ammo.
It’s not meant for close support. It is meant to lie in wait close to shore to ambush Soviet landing ships. It can also do mine hunting and mine laying.
@@Rbajter Yes, it got long range antiship missiles.
コルベットという小さな艦種ということで、かなり割り切った装備にしているのかと思いきやこの軍艦は対艦誘導弾や魚雷、飛行甲板など割と多方面に行動することを前提に設計されているようだ。同じステルスコルベットでも台湾海軍の沱江級コルベットが対艦戦闘に特化しているのとはだいぶ違いますね。
the corvette is a small ship type, and one would think that it would be equipped with a rather limited range of equipment, but it seems that this warship is designed to act in a rather multifaceted manner, with anti-ship guided missiles, torpedoes, flight decks, etc. It is quite different from the Taiwanese Navy's Tuo Chiang-class corvettes, which are also stealth corvettes but specialize in anti-ship combat.
Go Sweden - our good friends! D.A., NYC
These have anti-hypersonic misile deffence systems on them too....
That must be the Smoke Screen that hides you from the enemies .
It's not a smokescreen. The exhaustgases are watercooled for minimized IR signature.
I think it's so expensive which the Philippines can't not afford to buy. but its powerful to have by the AFP.
God blessed swedish 🙏
Test case at red sea can escape from drone houthi or not
magnifique
🤩🤩🤩
They look quite nice... But what is the use of stealth technology in the age of drones and satellite reconnaissance?
Plenty useful. The area to cover is massive and realtime.
日本もこれ買って不審船追い回そうぜ☆
Terrific, more killing machines. “Said sarcastically”
From the front it looks like a pine tree
I enjoyed watching this great video.👍😂😂😂😂
Comments from paid trolls and bots make no difference to reality. Keep on rocking in the free world
Showed us most of the ship and how it's organized skillfully .... but am still wondering why the trail of steam out of the back end?
Would be easy to mask that, so makes me wonder if it's part of it's stealth camouflage?
Maybe the reason for that are the exhaust pipes of the gas turbines (the propulsion system consists of 2 diesel engines and 4 gas turbines).
And if the exhaust pipes are underwater, to decrease the IR signature, the hot gases heat the water and create a small steam trail.
But that's an assumption, of course.
it is intentional. They dissipate the exhaust gases into the wake of the ship. That creates this "cloud" but it massively reduces the heat-signature of the ship making it stealthier in terms of IR-tracking
@MrSchwabentier Not only that, but they also inject seawater into the exhaust system to cool the exhaust. The divinyl core carbon fibre sandvich construction also help reducing the heat signature, and make the vessel hull non-magnetic.
Fascinating... tbh I love Stealth Ships like Visby-class Corvette that I know now
And others (even I don't know the name and where other Stealth Ships Created)..
Edit: I deleted it some bcuz maybe I'm lil bit blind
You spell it like he did "Corvette"
Oh sorry I@@DashTTV
It would only be sensational if they could act as a buoy for example and hide underwater for some time.
You need 360 degree weapons to cover all areas of defense and offense.
함포 나오는 거 진짜 로망 자극하넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Looks like a cooking boat inside.
Sneaky little ship. Good ambush predator that lurks among the flotsam or shoreline clutter. Anyhow, radar algorithms will have their hands full separating a recreational craft or sea buoy from a combat ship.
徹底している…ステルス❗
Swedes make good kit - and I miss my SAAB's.
3:03 the bridge of the ship🚤 is water cannon proof?..
Thats why they have the "real" information/command in the center of the ship. Also as a swede Im sure we will have tested it against water cannons, at least once... I mean twice during testing, just to make sure :)
Helicopter deck?
The ship looks like a call centre. I wonder how it is protected from EMP?
With the same protections used on any modern military vehicle
レーダーに映らな過ぎて、演習時以外はレーダーリフレクタ付けて、船版のトランスポンダを必ずONにするよう国際機関から注意されたらしい。
curious about the powertrain
CODOG (Combined Diesel OR Gas Turbine) arrangement, two MTU 16V 2000 N90 diesels for low speed and four Vericor TF-50 gas turbines for high speed. Two reduction gears, two turbines and one diesel if connected to each.
The reduction gears is then connected to two water jets from KaMeWa.
Total power using diesels is around 2,6MW. Using gas turbines it's about 16MW.
Very cool ship . But it appears that is is missing point self defense cannons for close in defense . But there probly just hidden .
The 57mm does that. In addition the will be installed with CAMM in a year or two.
Like the other person said, 57 mm can defend somewhat against that. However, this vessel in war time probably aint traveling alone. They probably have a swedish diesel submarine close to its location for defense against other vessels.
Velocidades increibles
wow, very cool, I like it very much.
guys let's stop by, there are good and interesting too
Actually my question is why do we always show off the latest and greatest in such detail.
Because a) it’s not the latest tech, it’s 20 years old, b) deterrence only works with knowledge and c) there isn’t anything shown here that’s valuable to an enemy anyways
なんだろ…
漂うズムウォルト並みの特殊性
Visby was earlier. They built the first in 2000 while the Zumwalt started its desing period in 2005.
the crew is about 200/300.?
How about 60 max. This is a corvette, not a frigate.
43 to be more exact.