Flat Earth: What Makes REAL Science? - Wisecrack Edition
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How do we know what we know? Join us as we get nerdy about the philosophy of science and how it relates to the rotundity of the Earth.
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I remember a time when people said, "you guys have the internet, with unlimited knowledge. How can you not know everything."
We were so naive to think that the truth would be more popular than fiction.
Internet don't give you information, you give internet information, and the only way to make you stay online and contribute more information, is to please you by showing you the information that you currently believe, which is extremely biased. UA-cam would show flat earther videos of flat earth theory just to show them more ads.
That's the best most concise statement I've heard on this. You are so right. We just assumed people would prefer the truth, but now they can find any "truth" that fits their narrative!
@@pauljordan6615 I mean it'd still be truth.
Just that it's someone else's truth.
World isn't as black and white as truth and fiction
Truth is super popular, but as this video shows. Truth aint easy gaining and people are not good at it.
The internet was meant to be unlimited knowledge. Little did we know it would become unlimited stupidity.
0:40 DOES WISECRACK KNOW THINGS!? What do they know? Do they know things? Lets find out.
This is Mr.Peanut Butter, the host..
666melodeath666 I felt so dissatisfied when Jared didn’t say “let’s find out”
@@saikarthikeya4463 wow... totally Mr. Peanut Butter!!
*vsauce music starts playing*
What is this, a cross over episode?
The mental image of a group of people passing around a swan is something I find highly amusing
Know 'Professor Dave Explains'?
?
Let me make this easy for you. If the earth was indeed flat, or even close to being flat, you could mount a telescope on a building in New York, and look across the Atlantic to see Big Ben in London. The actual line of sight between those two points is a straight line that enters the ocean before the horizon and continues until it is thousands of feet below the surface, and continues in that straight line until it reaches Big Ben. A flat earth would mean that line of sight would never enter the ocean.
I'm sure they never thought about that.😑
That's not the only problem
@Art...
Oh that one huh...
So if the earth is a ball,we can’t see an infinite distance,but if it’s flat then poof voila,now were supposed to be able see an infinite distance??
And just nevermind the dirt,dust,dew,rain,fog,smog,clouds,mist,haze,snow that could or would be in the air between u and London??... Lol
Anyways...
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I never thought I'd see the legend behind Garyx Wormuloid
He was in a recent video, did you not watch it?
It was just an actor with wimpy eyebrows.
@@totallynotjeff7748 It might be easier to recall if you actually say what the video was instead of just saying "a recent video". Because how recent are you talking? This week? Two weeks ago? A month? Be less vague when you're trying to correct someone my guy.
But was it him tho?🤔
think about that one. checkmate round earther
@@dgray7537 or was it Garayx with shaved down eyebrows posing as an actor?🤔
For fuck's sake, now my youtube feed will be filled with Flat Earth videos...
What Makes Real Science - Passing The Scientific Method - Nothing in Science is ever supposed to be considered Verified unless it passes the method.. Agreed? If something does not pass the scientific method, it Cannot be Taught as Fact.. isn't that what the method teaches? It Is. I have studied it for over 30 years. Agreed? Now, Water has Facts or Laws that we always observe. Water always takes the shape of it's container and it Always seeks it's own level - Agreed? In the method, if a Claim is made that goes against all observable phenomena, it Must be Verified by physical empirical experimental reproduction. Agreed? It is Reasonable is it not to demand the experimental evidence that verifies the claim Agreed? Well, I don't believe the Claim we live on a spinning ball covered by water - It Cannot be recreated by experimental evidence! It does Not pass the scientific method! We Know we Don't have this experimental Proof of water covering a spinning sphere that the Method Requires! !That is Real Science According to the Scientific Method - Are you claiming the scientific method is wrong or my understanding of the method is wrong? I Challenge Anyone to prove my understanding of the method wrong so you Must concede your theory is Wrong! This is Why our numbers are growing. You people are brainwashed and Not following the Method correctly. Again, I Challenge you to prove me wrong by text in a text book that teaches the method. You Cannot best me. . By that Real Criteria, that doesn't prove a Flat Earth but it shows there is serious problems with the globe model.
@@kirkhamandy Yeah I mentioned the same thing in a few threads because it's relevant. I think I made a damn good point and invite discussion on it, want people to consider it. I make no bones about it. That doesn't fit the definition of Trolling.
+Div: But as I mentioned on one of those other threads, that tedious rambling post lists no real "problem with the globe model", not one. In a post much shorter than that I can list a half dozen visible, easily examinable things, each of which totally denies the flat model
+Pasta: The human mind is a wondrous thing, but also a wondrously fragile thing. We should realize very early that we should respect it, protect it, and treasure it. Much of this FE/CT issue revolves around doing just the opposite in life. The stoners from the 60s, 70s, are aging now, and reaping the "rewards" of abusing themselves.
Notice that this dude has pasted this exact same comment on dozens of threads under FE vids, while never really addressing anything about how we might simply demo thru observation what shape earth actually can and cannot be. This is because his poor addled mind does not begin to examine any model when greeted by a model on a vid.
He does not need to evaluate what we say, because first and foremost, earth IS flat. Everything else follows. It makes him feel special in his sad, isolated existence, to believe outrageous things about perfectly mundane, easily examined, easily settled aspects of life around him. (One could wish that he would choose something a bit less evident to go on about). The fact that everyone who knows him out here in the real word, brands him a lunatic, only makes him even more special, and noticed of God. And yes, I said it. This is EXACTLY, and sadly, what this is all about.
@@DivergentDroid Your incredulity and unwillingness to accept the proper and accepted usage of terminologies is not the problem of the rest of the world to resolve. It is trolling because it creates an impossible standard and has nothing to do with science as you dragged the exchange into the realm of armchair philosophy. You entire argument boils down to a student with a D grade arguing that the book was wrong and the teacher is on the coverup because they never bothered to study the materials.
I had a two-hour debate with a flat Earther this weekend. He could never explain sunrise/sunset or the eclipses. I told him there is a lunar eclipse on 5/15/2022 and for him to go outside and explain the curved shadow that he'll see.
All I see whenever I see any flat earther rally or reunion is a bunch of 50 years olds too stubborn to admit that they are wrong.
"How do we know that we know shit?" is actually epistemology.
how about "how do we know that we know that we know shit?" Is that epiepistemology?
jk
And the study of what random bs made your mom mad now is apissedmomology
i prefer meta connaissance, hard science baby even though Bachelard is pretty good (I'm french so it's pretty easy for me i learned all that shit while in high school and college was free ;)
Scientists: What do they know? Do they know things? Let's find out. That would be a killer tv show
Let's get JD Salinger and Mr. Peanut Butter to sign on
Yeah I agree because it might be a little scary to realize how little our scientists or educated people actually know.
Hahaha!!!!! I was totally going to write that too!!!!
I wanted Jared to make that joke so bad!!
@@alexkirrmann8534
Compared to whom?
That’s the guy who said you can see Seattle from Canada! I’m afraid not. All line of sight angles from Canada have the city obscured by mountains and islands. There is no way to see Seattle from Canada without gaining considerable elevation first.
2:20 "and probably after this video, Wisecrack" HAHAHAHA I LAUGH SO HARD SO TRUE
We need to teach kids critical thinking from kindergarten on
Do we teach them the Earth is round before or after that?
@Ken Harris But not everyone will be honest with your kids. They need to be prepared to sidestep fraudsters.
Think of the dumbest person you know ... 80 percent of the United States is that dumb it’s not in the cards to have a intelligent Society..you can’t teach up a low I.Q.
No the thing is the flat-earthers pretty much know the earth is round. Their real problem is that they haven't come to terms with the fact that their lives are actually empty. They have nothing giving them any sort of validation or meaning to the outside world so they're trying to find something to cling to to feel like part of them is unique and better than the others - because outside of that, the rest of them is pure emptiness. It's really, really depressing.
I think kids need to be taught the principline to not automatically believe any great claim without totally dismissing it. I think most of this bs goes through because people tend to use fear-factor or outright questioning the intelligence of hearer to make their emotions go out control. People in the mess with their own emotions are pretty easy to feed every possible information and if there are questions there are accusations of either being stupid or "sheeple".
In the past if someone (usually youngster) had new idea it usually was not taken as the truth before some serious study by different peers and cross-examination. At least then the conclusion might be if not actual truth at least informed decision.
During the internet time though it seems to be less appreciated that someone just disengages when hearing strange claims and is just doing right to not make it essential to their world-view over yet. Too many people seem to dismiss old disciplines merely because "it is a present now man."
Garyx's human cosplay is good if a little upsetting, a bit uncanny valley
Impressive that he can make his eyebrows into facial hair though. That folical control...
And it's really offensive. It's so hideous!
At least he didn't try to eat something uncensored. That would've been horrible. KAREN!
I'd still tap that
YES !!! Finally !!! That advert creeps me the F@#$ out. Really glad it's not just me.
10:21 "A 15° per hour drift" Thanks Bob!
i stopped the video to go looking for this exact comment :E
Didn't Flat earthers spend $40,000 to try to prove that the Earth was flat. Ended up proving it round. That made me laugh
$20,000 on a laser ring gyroscope to prove the Earth doesn't spin. It measured the spin of the Earth, a 15 degree per hour drift. Thanks, Bob!
"I think that the scientific method is the best way to get to the truth."
Says the guy who has scientifically proven the Earth to be spherical at least twice but keeps on claiming it's flat.
Yeah, Jeran and the folks he associates with tend to do really shitty experiments and then hide the results if they can't fudge them into supporting the flat earth.
@Nick Papsi Lam Paradigm shift, spherical model is an old model that we tweaked to account for data discrepancies, the oblate spheroid model does everything the spherical one does but account for a lot more!
@Nick Papsi Lam dude, just re-watch the video, I was making a joke.
@Nick Papsi Lam The definition of spherical is literally: "shaped like a sphere". That doesn't need to mean "perfect sphere", because I know it isn't.
DA EXPERIMENT DAT 'PROVED' DA EARTHS SPINNIN CANNOT BE DUPLICATED DUMBASS
DAT GOES AGAINST EVRYTHANG SCIENCE STAND FUH
DAT LITERALLY MEANS DAT DA EARTH BEIN ROUND IS NOTTA SCIENTIFIC FACT
DA EARTH SUPPOSEDLY SPINNIN BUT DA NORTH STAR DONT EVA EVA EVA MOVE... NO MATTAH WAT DAT DONT MAKE NO FUCKIN SENSE
GRAVITY IS SUPPOSEDLY STRONG ENUFF TUH HOLD DA PLANETS WATER DOWN BUT WEAK ENUFF TUH NOT KILL EVRY LIVIN THING THERE IS
NASA SAID DEY 'LOST' DA TECHNOLOGY DAT BROUGHT DEM TUH DA MOON... 'LOST'
NASA WAS OVARUN BY NAZIS AFTUH WWII
DA HEAD OF NASA WAS A TOP NAZI
DAT NAZI HAS ON HIS TOMBSTONE AND SAID WIT HIS OWN MOUF DAT ITS FLAT
SCIENTISTS KNOW DAT DEY CANT EVEN RECOGNIZE 75% OF DA ACTUAL SPACE IN SPACE BUT THINK DAT MATH IS THA END ALL BE ALL... IT... IS... NOT
IF ITS FLAT DAT LITERALLY MEANS 2+2 DONT ALWAYS EQUAL 4... HUMANS CANT LIV WIT DAT KINDA UNVERTAINTY
90’s scientists: We’ve cloned a sheep and put a robot on Mars
Today scientists: The Earth is round.
70's scientists: "We've put a man on the moon and are ready to nuke everyone."
Not the scientists, though, it's gotta be said.
Future scientists: Round is good. I like round - not flat.
Dosn't look good for future intelligence of humanity
Humans are becoming dumber and dumber and then scientists have to reiterate such simple facts.
Is there any real evidence that NASA cloned a sheep or put a robot on Mars? Please don’t say of course there is, I want some real proof.
The simply nature of physics and the way water behaves should be all the evidence anyone would ever need to prove that the earth is indeed a sphere.
A single water droplet does not form a flat plain when dropped. When not under the influence of any other object, it naturally forms a sphere.
This simple truth is undeniably.
So when you have a quantity of water, how come it doesnt retain the sphere shape, leveling itself without exception.
I love the Garyx Wormuloid cameos! He's so handsome, and i always forget that until he appears, so it always is a nice surprise :)
Mind if i recommend my fellow Science-Fans
some Stuff?
Science or just Education in General or even just Fun in General?
Garyx is good looking and normal and I don't like it and it makes me weirdly uncomfortable. Speech not working.
As he said, he's an actor just like a movie critic. He's just performing a human person.
And boy, he's very convincing.
Legend has it that when Schroeder transitions into his character, Garyx, all the facial hair on his face would climb up towards his forehead and turn into the alien's iconic brows...
Best. comment. ever.
I've heard rumors that Garyx is actually a sybiotic being and his eyebrows are a separate sentient entity, capable of independent locomotion on his head.
There’s always an aura of “insult” and “sarcasm” in the air when people speak of the flat earth theory rather they’re against it or not. Just because we know the terms and memorized what was taught to us, measurements and all that it doesn’t mean that all that stuff was true or correct because science for the most part are theories anyway. I think the hardest think for people to want to consider the flat earth is that it means since childhood we’ve learned and become emotionally attached to something that wasn’t true. Some of us went to school for it, we have kids now and we don’t want to teach them something that they aren’t learning in school. I take all that emotionality into affect when I hear someone who believes in the globe. They get emotionally triggered and even angry at you for believing in this
There is no flat earth theory. Theories require lots of evidence. Flerfs have no evidence of any kind.
@@Matuse What does that have to do with this comment?
You're getting stuck on semantics!? 🙄
@@Matuse Where is your personal evidence there is a globe, other than what was told to you?
@@talkditingsdem5799 have you ever been on an airplane ?
"Science for the most part are just theories anyway"
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
This slur is misleading and conflates two separate meanings of the word theory: In common usage, the word theory means just a hunch, but in science, a theory is a powerful explanation for a broad set of observations. To be accepted by the scientific community, a theory (in the scientific sense of the word) must be strongly supported by many different lines of evidence. So biological evolution is a theory: It is a well-supported, widely accepted, and powerful explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. But it is not “just” a theory.
I agree there needs to be more access to science fields. I grew up with an Electrical Engineer as a father, asking questions turned into lessons in the field. I not only got to understand how and why something reacts the way it does but also the history of testing and our foundation of knowledge being applied and it working in front of me. At the age of 10 I was able to help him solve problems on wire diagrams. I find it very frustrating that people are believing in all kinds of insane non-sense.
Very true. MNy experience was somewhat different. My father was a Reverend Minister who ran three churches, so I was born and raised in the church. I realised at a very early age that there were major problems in a faith which created so much hatred in the followers of certain sub-cults, such as the CoE. As I grew older and was better able to understand what the bible actually was and what the various sub-cults believed it said I became totally disillusioned with religion and sceptical of the bible with all its contradictions etc., and by the time I left home at 16 I had also gained enough knowledge of history to understand the bible was not only self-contradictory but is not much more than misinterpretations of mistranslated and misinterpreted already discarded and disproved plagiarised myths.
I then went on to pay may way through various professional and academic courses.
It is very telling that whilst the current FE cult originated in the UK with Rowbotham and his biblical literalism it is now pretty well confined to the USA where primary and secondary education are a joke.
According to Olivia Young, a student of astrophysics at WVU who also works as a science educator for a team funded by the US space agency, NASA, a lack of decent scientific education is part of the problem.
"Not many places in West Virginia offer physics programmes in their high schools and those who do very few of them are taught by people actually trained in physics," she says.
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49802038
As A friend from the USA commented. But they know all about snake handling in WV.
Elon Musk sent the flat earth society a tweet asking if they think other planets are flat as well
They responded and said other planets have been observed as round not flat
I would ask them how exactly they manage to square that circle, but, well...
@@logicplague circular reasoning?
@Khashon Haselrig Well, round could be can still be used to describe 2D shapes, maybe they have trouble with the word spherical, or maybe that word is just a hologram and they refuse to acknowledge it.
ELLON MUSK SHOULD SEND THEM TO SPACE IN HIS NEW ROCKETS FOR FREE SO THEY COULD SEE THE EARTH BY THEIR OWN EYES.
@@BitmapJack just to prove a point? I'm all for educating everyone, but if they send dumb people to space to see how earth is round and not flat, I'll become a flat earther just to go to space haha
1:05 "...let's get real nerdy about the philosophy of science..."
Me: Yes!
Entire rest of video: Never once mentions the word epistemology.
Me: NOT NERDY ENOUGH!
I WAS WAITING FOR THAT TOO! wtf
well, talking about relevant parts of a topic is imo more important than mentioning the trivial name of the topic itself.
@@captasticts8419 I hope you're okay with me reading your comment in a heavy German accent.
@@camelopardalis84 smh i knew giving youtube my real name was a mistake. but sure why not, german, close enough.
@@captasticts8419 Austrian then? I'm Swiss, it would rather be "Hämmerli" here. I had a "Werklehrer" (still don't know how to call that in English) with that name.
This is really high quality content.
Keep it up.
Flat earthers will never debunk anything.
I’m a medievalist (Ph. D. and all), and the constant irritating repetition of the entirely incorrect idea that people living in the Middle Ages believed the world was flat makes me extra-special-super crazy. No, they did not - just for one tiny example, Columbus and his peeps were concerned about running out of supplies, a very realistic concern, not running off some edge - also see the design of basic scientific tools of the time period such as astrolabes in which the earth is represented by a sphere - the world had been considered to be round, a spherical shape, since the Greeks (at least). There are references to the earth as a “globe” everywhere in the Middle Ages, including in the works of our best known writers of the time period. So leave the Middle Ages alone, fearthers.
Or we could draw mystical symbols and summon the angels. Or is it angles Aleister?
@@ShrodingersAminal what are you on about??
@@captasticts8419 Buggered if I know!
Pfft Every last civilization on earth throughout all of history thought the world is flat, many of them never stopped. All of this information is easily available- what is wrong with you? Creepy
@@jeffbridges5312
Where's your evidence of that then? Put up or STFU.
You're really touching on a significant broader yet very specific human problem with the "moms against" joke.
They should examine this on Wisecrack.
“Flat earthers are a little bit scattered in their beliefs”
You’re being kind
If the Earth is flat, I would like to see an expedition to the edge of the world. If we are really in a dome, that is.
They will tell you some rubbish about some arttic wall
My belief is that natural sciences have gone way beyond what most people understand or comprehend, and in that ignorance and an inferiority complex the conspiracy theories grow.
Ironic that flat Earth is so easily disproven you don't even need a university title to understand why it's so dumb
Thats actually a great argument. But I’d say as we evolve our base IQ should, too. (I have no data to back that up).
It seems logical. Also, a lot of conspiracy theorists are political. So they believe a lot of propaganda. Especially from the right.
@@PittsburghSonido I think it's less about IQ as I remember studies often state it as having grown considerably since the last century. I think it's more education/literacy, but also a stronger society/nation that would help, as less would feel disadventaged and left behind. The state of America, especially in eduation has been terrible for decades.
@@darkionx Yes, even less than a highschool education would suffice.
Erik Münso That makes sense. Thats ‘murka for ya. Keep em dumb.
I like to imagine that flat earth theory is a troll that went too far.
Sad thing is, it was.......
I'm pretty sure it was. Like the dihydrogen monoxide hoax XD
You mean like the ok-handsign? Oh wait, I mean the international hatesign made with thumb and indexfinger...
This is what I think too. Stupid people latch onto things making the trolls who came with those concepts popular, then they roll with it
Apocolo toth you act like neo nazi and white supremacist groups don’t use this hand sign in all of their pics. There’s so much evidence, don’t be a dolt
Whoop whoop the fact that you threw icp in there with those miracles references is SUPER dope
As that famous dead guy once said, "the unexamined life is totally the best life and supernormal". Perhaps conspiracy theorists are the only philosophers left in a pool full of golems.
Unfortunately most adults are too invested in their existing beliefs to discard them, no matter how much contrary evidence you present.
Yes adults on both sides of the spectrum
@@adriel9215 Well flat earth theorists don't present contrary evidence. They bring up an equation or experiment that's been disproven with simple math or introducing a real world variable that wasn't accounted for. Once that's out of the way they invent imaginary forces that in no way have been proven to exist like "dark force" and "heavenly energy". Then when someone presents yet another piece of research among literal hundreds that disproves flat earth they give up and say "that's been disproven elsewhere so I'm not gonna bother responding" even though at no point it's been disproven.
@@Glornak Just like dark matter and dark energy.
The question is, why their beliefs are like that now. Is it only because of internet allowing them to congregate, and people like that have always existed? Or did something really change in the last decades to breed antiscientific ideas out of proportion?
You have to be a dimwit moron to think the earth is flat.
This is basically a breif "what is knowledge?" using flat earth as an example
it's an epistemology based on the scientific method.
@@alveolate much better worded
Just like our eyes cannot see earth in 4 or 11 dimensions, our brain cannot fully understand knowledge with English or any human language.
@John Doe so we should also start dihydrogen monoxide conspiracy theories eh? there's a difference between deferring to the general consensus (backed by centuries of specialist knowledge in this case) and being sheeple.
most of the rest of the world simply learn how science works in school - they didn't need to engage with any flat-earth nutjobs to gain scientific literacy. your argument is contrived and off-base.
No. Knowledge does not have to be verifyable
We have NASA video from the 60's, long before digital imaging became available. My question would be, "why do you choose to not believe the earth is a sphere".
What difference does it make to you. Why has there never been a photo taken of the edge of the flat earth. Don't you think that would be on Google Earth.
What difference does it make? You choose not to believe in flat earth because then your mind would be blown, because then you will know everything you have been told is a lie. But the truth is coming sooner than you think!
Because the flat earth is the least important part. It's the "they don't want you to know that" that's important
Flat earthers reminds me of how I think when I was 5 years old
Do you think different today? In which way?
As the great philosopher Thor said, ”All words are made up”!
Hahaha!
NO MORTALS CAN MATCH THE PHILOSOPHY OF GOD!!
He's not wrong
Yeah well I'm made up
This is the best video Wisecrack has ever done in my opinion. It takes an apparent silly topic as flat earth and is capable of reaching the root of a major problem in modern society. Congratulations to be capable of going beyond "flat earth is stupid" and give a brief and well explained description of what modern science is, how it operates and its shortcomings according to solid authors like Karl Popper.
The gravity of the situation is that only Worshipers of the Globe Earth Society will blindly enlist in the Donald Trump's SPACE FORCE AKA agenda 21 depopulation so when they get orders for deep space in reality they are going deep frying and turned into chicken nuggets to feed globetards all around our beautiful stationary flat Earth. Be smarter than a globetard and research everything
@@renukote
The insane thing is: your posting is not satire, right?
@@ronik24 Nope just another INSANE PARANOID person living with "its" parents (hopefully), doing nothing but looking for answers in other Flat Earther youtube channels that get paid by suckers like "rene kalucea". These Flat Earthers dont even believe theyre own horseshit anymore they just know they will be out of money once this Flat Earth shit falls flat (again). Lol it kinda sad! Ill admit though im already bummed with the decline in the flat earther confidence i actually was fascinated by the caliber of people willing to make total ASSWIPES outta themselves now they dont even do debates anymore. Im sure they will come up with something else though like im thinking of starting the "OXYGEN ISNT REAL" movement and spread the paranoia that they only call it "Oxygen" so that they can charge us for it in the future. LOL. Makes more sense to me than a USELESS flat earth conspiracy theory. And i can just say "you cant prove what oxygen is because its invisible bro!" Bla bla bla
@@renukote +1ing this for playing every childish insult in the book
Edit:fixing my shitty grammar
@@wesleysmith1373 is the perfect example of a completely subjugated and incredulous globetard mind . Let's test the Globe Earth Society worshipers 🤔 How come your official formula to. Measure the CURVATURE is not working?
The thumbnail: they will never find out that its upside down
Me: i think this is upside down
My hands: go now
My brain: you have learned nothing it's not upside down (lies)
My head: let's go upside down
Thumbnail: (KNOWLEDGE)
All you need to do the prove the earth is not flat, is ask how the moon phases work and why most of them are round... or even the moon phases.
Any scientist will tell you: "Question everything" and "Don't put blind faith into talking heads." They will also tell you (as in the video), don't wholesale throw out the working model until you have a better working model.
@ They also can't explain how all these globe-earth-nasa-shill scientists somehow create working technology using a completely wrong model of physics.
HEY STUPID! THESE SAME SCIENTISTS TOLD US THAT THE MOON WASN'T IN THE FIRMAMENT RIGHT? YET ONCE FLAT EARTHERS STARTED PROVING HOW NASA AND OUR GOVERNMENT LIED TO US FROM DAY 1 SCIENTISTS ARE NOW SAYING "'OOPS WE WERE WRONG!." YOU PEOPLE SPEND TO MUCH TIME ON THE INTERNET WHILE THE REST OF THE WORLD LAUGHS AT YOU!.😆🤣😂
Opps, no. No scientist says that. You're an idiot! @@HawkeyeAssassins-zh4nz
Its Elfin magic! @@denisl2760
@@HawkeyeAssassins-zh4nz wtf was that nonsense you typed?
the real reason we're arguing about the shape of this "planet" is because seeing that our "planet" is actually the great Cthulhu will cause all to go mad
Perhaps we have all already gazed upon Him in all His Majesty, and this is what has truly happened to us. _We_ might think we're debating something rationally. In truth, we've all already gone completely stir-crazy. CTHULHU FTHARGH
okay, please cite the music video... "water fire, ..." that was dope AF and I need to hear the whole thing.
On 4th December there was a total solar eclipse which was visible only in extreme South locations, particularly Antarctica. It was streamed live from the Union Glacier Base near the shores of the Weddell Sea, which is basically south of South America, on several websites including NASA's. In addition to over 70 people who travelled there to watch it, two plane loads of eclipse chasers, from Western Australia and Chile (on opposite sides of the disc) flew South to get a good view of it from 30,000 feet. It was also observed as a partial eclipse from South Africa and Melbourne.
When it was observed in Australia it was just before sunset and people looked West to watch it. In contrast, folks in South Africa had to look Eastwards as it was early morning.
But here's the BIG THING. The people observing it from the Union Glacier Base watched it when it was technically around midnight! At this time of the year the sun doesn't set in Antartica. It just goes around in circles about 15 degrees above the horizon. And to film the eclipse, the cameras streaming it were pointed SOUTH! Over the South Pole! In the opposite direction to the "centre of the disc"!
When totality was happening over Antarctica, it was around noon in India. The sun would have been at it's highest in the Indian sky.
How is all of this, happening MORE OR LESS SIMULTANEOUSLY, explainable in the flat earth model? Try mapping this out on the flat earth disc!
Then there is the stunning "eclipse over Antarctica" image from the NASA climate satellite, orbiting around a million miles from earth, that photographed the totality shadow over the Weddell Sea. You can clearly see how the global earth model clearly explains this in it's entirety.
What will flat earthers say to explain this? All fake? How? Why?
Our understanding of how eclipse happen is beyond our comprehension. We dont know how exactly this system works, as a lot of hidden from us.
One thing we know for sure, globe is a hoax and nasa is faking space. You need to ask yourself, why'd governments lie and use Antarctic Treaty military forces to guard 60th parallel after Admiral Byrd discovered extra lands
@@Globeisahoax Eclipses are easy to understand, for people with an IQ that measures above single digits. Which explains you...
“Newton also invented calculus”
Man don’t do my boy Leibniz like that
Nerd 😡
Poor Leibniz, .but he so rarely followed through.
Gottfreid ma boy, pass those sweet binaries.
Leibniz and Newton invented it around the same time. Newton launched an investigation to figure out who did it first.
I am not sure if Newton’s investigation was free of major sources of bias, though it wasn’t purely conducted by him but rather by the Royal Science Boys.
But we use Leibniz’s form of calculus today because it looks cleaner.
@@funkyflames7430 Newton launched an investigation that was conducted by him and his Royal Society buddies; of course they "found" that Newton was the first lmao. It was heavily biased, and unfortunately pretty much ruined the rest of Leibniz's years.
We also now use a mixture of Newton's and Leibniz's notations, but the current underlying form of calculus is quite a bit different, relying on limits instead of infinitesimal "fluxions" as Newton called them.
I can't tell you how vindicated I feel when I essentially hear "debate isn't about winning"
Flat earthers won the debate years ago. ua-cam.com/video/c-BYzxUT7pQ/v-deo.html
Ben Shapiro would DESTROY you for that.
@@rightsarentwrong5635 lost*
@@rightsarentwrong5635 IQ: 74. Confirmed.
m.ua-cam.com/video/WffliCP2dU0/v-deo.html
16:57 love how that says "flights to australia always make a stop in india" but neither of those red lines are touching india
I am late to the party but 8:35 is a profound statement and one that all flat earthers do.
In my experience with Flat-earthers, I've noticed it usually comes with a heavy dose of religiosity. When you strip away the layers of it, most of them cite an extremely literal interpretation of the Bible as their reason for believing the Earth is flat. In that regard, it's basically young Earth creationism 2.0
I agree. To believe the earth is flat, with a protective dome over it, they would at least have to have a belief in some kind of higher power to create it to begin with. Most I have come across are bible thumpers that worship that so called "god", as well. In my opinion, if someone is to believe that the bible is the truth, it doesn't take all that much more of a leap to believe the earth is also flat.
Travis Boylls Have you had much experience debating People who don't think they're on a ball?
Let's see how well you do against me. We can let the chat log speak for itself. Please provide me your best scientific evidence of living on a sphere.
@@hoperodrig6561 Yes I have. In my experience, no amount of evidence will ever convince you flat-earthers that you're wrong. I could put you in a spaceship and have you look down at the round Earth, and you'd probably claim it was all an elaborate VR experience, or something. So how about you provide the best "scientific" evidence that we DON'T live on a spinning ball. If you have a hypothesis that challenges the standard scientific model, the burden of proof is on you.
Travis Boylls Where did I state that I believe the Earth was flat. ? You've already started off on the wrong foot making presuppositions.
So for the second time, would you please provide your best scientific evidence of living on a sphere? It's a simple straightforward question.
@@hoperodrig6561 Here you go. Live footage of the Earth from ISS. ua-cam.com/video/XBPjVzSoepo/v-deo.html
I JUST finished watching the Flat Earther documentary on Netflix and youtubed "flat earth" and this video was uploaded 23 mins ago.... proof the Earth is flat.
NASA knows!
Proof you’re experiencing a coincidence
What the fuck
did you seriously watch that garbage??
Lmao
Great Wix transition :)
Love your voice! Great video!
The problem is that people think access to Google makes them just as knowledgeable as actual experts.
Read up on the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Spells it out rather well.
No, the problem is that google, is google... nice avatar btw...
You mean SOME people.
Linda Niemkiewicz there’s a comment on the main thread that reminded me of you flat earthers.
“While it can be difficult to win an argument with an intelligent person, It’s impossible to win an argument with an idiot”.
This is why nobody wants to address your idiosyncratic and mentally defunct arguments towards subject matter of witch you are grotesquely and unquestionably not qualified to take part in.
@Linda Niemkiewicz That curvature calculation of "8 inches per miles squared" is made up by, long an behold, a flat earther. Prove and demonstrate to us that the calculation you're using actually works including, as the video has stated, confound variables. You would have to question that "calculation" of yours to begin with, to support your claim.
Here's a quick google of why that BS of yours is stupid: walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Eight+Inches+per+Miles+squared+Formula+Derivation
All of this is because flat earthers are literal idiots; only a moron would think they know more than an expert.
The Earth is not flat or round, it's a Hyperdodecahedron contained in a 3 dimensional Icosahedron. Obviously...duh.
the earth isn't even real so...
Shut up, Ryuzaki
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I thought it was an oblate spheroid, but I'm probably over simplifying it
@@passthebutterrobot2600 Haha, that would sure explain why Dirt is not Metal. I see.
*Simple questions for flat earthers*
If the earth is flat it has 2 sides who lives on the other side?
Why can't we communicate with them?
If no one lives there why not?
Do they have a sun and moon also?
If there is no sun on the other side do mushrooms grow there?
Are we on the wrong side?
If so why don't we notice we are upside down?
If I go over the edge in a bathtub will I reach the other side or get stuck on the edge?
Does anyone live on the edge?
Why not?
How thick is the edge?
*Enquiring minds want to know*
05:42 - This man’s model shows the sun and the moon as opposites, when you can clearly see the moon in the sky on the daytime, they are not tidally locked!
In "Behind The Curve" they (flat earthers) conduct two tests to prove flat earth.
You guessed it.
It showed a globe earth.
Did it change their minds?
You guessed it.
Muy Holey Buybull Am Der Troof!
No?
@@theveganflower5135 You guessed it...
Only excusses like heavenly energies and a silly "interesting"
@@boterlettersukkel “How can we interpret this 15 degrees of movement that we shouldn’t have found, but did. To suit our narrative?”
“We obviously weren’t willing to accept that and so we started looking for ways to disprove that it was actually registering the motion of the earth ...”
@@boffeycn Bob claimed is was "heavenly enery's " without providing evidence.
Basicly he was aying. GODDIDIT!!!!!
I am tired of debunking religious idiots that deny reallity.
Modern calculus was developed independently in the late 17th century by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. I think saying that is very important for this discussion, especially because 2 different guys from 2 different countries came to the same idea.
Two totally independent groups of people coming up with the same solution to the same problem is so common it's scary. In computer organization and design our professor wanted to demonstrate that point to us by letting us find solutions to problems and then realizing it's the exact same solution that intel and other chip manufacturers came up with. Makes you wonder if an alien species would have the exact same math as us just using different symbols.
@@marios1861 man... pls don't drag me into those thoughts. However, if we ever get visited by some alien species I'm pretty sure those visitors will already know quantum physics and calculus to an incredible level.
Friendly reminder that those two great man of science were the first to come up with a consistent method for calculus at a time when an increasing part of the mathematical community was working on the subject AND THEY WERE EXCHANGING LETTERS ABOUT IT. Both calculus are also not equal, and indeed they complement each other well, in a way is like looking at the same object from two slightly different perspectives (not counting that Newton tried 3 different approaches, and Leibniz had already published his work by the time Newton published his final version).
In the end is not that weird that people with more or less the same literacy on a subject can solve a problem at reasonable the same time (literally what a school test expects). Most of the time the ideas preceding a discovery were going around in the scientific community, and we mostly never learn about all the people who were on the verge of making the same discovery when the result was published. There are a few exceptions of truly groundbreaking shifts in perspective impulsed by one single person, but in maths at least it's easy to see that most of the material needed to produce a new result is already there before the discovery, which does give a sense of inevitability (but signals also the importance of the starting point).
@@marios1861 Considering that proportions tend to be similar universally (ie. two is always twice as big as one, the area of a circle is always 3.14etc. of the radius, the speed of light is a constant, etc. etc.) this could quite possibly work out. I mean, they might have different ways of expressing those formulas, and they might have different number systems (base 4, base, 9, base 126 who fucking knows), but at the end of the day, if you want to build a bridge or shoot something out into space, or manage the food supply for a city, it's make or break.
It's also a little weird to call it "invented" since it was true regardless of whether or not humans wrote down the symbols to help our primate brains understand it.
I'm glad you picked up on the irony that Patricia Steele has been accused of being part of a conspiracy and she can't prove it's wrong.
She left the FE cult quite a time back.
The lack of a person, or group of people, that a majority of people believe is one of the biggest problems facing our species right now. The difficulty in changing a person's opinion is made even harder without a revered data source.
A better education in history couldn't hurt. Americans are specifically really misinformed in general about historical processes. Ask a high school or college student in America about the American Civil War or the Vietnam War and get ready for deafening silence. Ask them their opinions of The Last Jedi, the MCU and GoT and stand back. Let alone a history of ideas. But a history of how we think what we think, provided it wasn't simply empowering niceties or accusations, has a much greater effect. I've tested this myself.
Wait, not even your wars? I thought that at least you didn't learn world history to really learn yours.
Esket dis bred well, of course you would do, it's not like Chile learns Bolivia's version of the start of the Pacific war or the other way around. Even global version will have bias as the victors write history, at least for a long period.
I'm glad you tested that nuanced theory with a presumably small sample size to reinforce your own beliefs. I would stay away from generalizing if I were you.
A bit of over-generalization. American History and World History is taught in high school. Science in the other hand, while taught, not everyone gets and if they do learn, they don't take it to the utmost truth
@Abigail Slaughter Yeah I agree. It's a blatant denial of reality. I'm not over 21, so I'm bless that I had teachers who didn't censor history and made me appreciate the natural world.
Some crazy woman: "I don't believe in anythig unless I can see it."
*WHY ARE YOU BREATHING, YOU CAN'T SEE AIR.*Aside:
The flat earth theory isn'y even a theory, there isn't any falsifiable, or demonstrable evidence that even hints ait their model. so even calling it a theory in the sense that it's a potable question in an insult to every language ever.
"The flat earth theory isn'y even a theory" Correct. It is biblical literalism.
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Craig Corson I’m pretty sure he meant “plausible”.
@@jbirdmax Very likely, but if his errors are not pointed out to him, he will never learn, will he?
@@craigcorson3036 So why didn't you do it politely then you arsehole?
As much as I enjoy pointing and laughing at flerfs, this was very thoughtful and helpful. Thank you. Please spend more time discussing possible solutions.
IF THE EARTH WAS REALLY SPINNING AT 1000 MPH PEOPLE WOULD BE FALLING DOWN AND THINGS WOULD BE FLYING EVERYWHERE !! TRY STANDING ON THE ROOF OF A CAR GOING JUST 100 MPH !! ITS ALL A LIE !! WE FLAT EARTHERS KNOW ITS FLAT BECAUSE WE HAVE PROOF !! WE HAVE MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING !! AND THIS AND THAT, AND WHAT NOT , AND WHAT HAVE YOU .. DONT LISTEN TO NASA ! IT STANDS FOR Not, Always,Telling the Truth !!
@Cardinal RG YOU JUST REGURGITATED THAT SHIT UP FROM OTHER SNOWFLKE SCIENCE POSTS !! I HAVE SEEN THEM ALL !! CLAIMING THAT THE EARTH SPINS AND THAT GRAVITY EXISTS LOL SMH !! WE CALL PEOPLE "PARROTING KARENS ' LOL GO EAT A SALAD !!
@@flatearth9140 LOL you freak
@@Woahthatisnotfair MY ASS HURTS
The only thing Flat Earthers have to fear is sphere itself...
This doesn't have enough up votes IMO.
I'm hoping they'll come a round one day...
WIX spelt backwards is NASA.
Swans are black in New Zealand!!
They must have flown too far!
The swan example btw isn't just science, but also definition. They could have defined as swans being white, and upon seeing a black swan they have to choose to either widen their definition or come up with a different name for the animal. It's reasonable to choose the former though.
@Gra Ra5 that's actually true when writing it in Urdu. But it's double backward, because in the written shape the symbols XIUU (there's no letter W in Urdu) translate to ASAN, which in Urdu is a designation for a demonic being.
They think they are clever.
@Gra Ra5 I agree, but beside all of that they still can be demonic beings, or at least demon's servants.
I'm familiar with one case of devil worshiping. My colleague at work (law firm) was pretty ambitious and he progressed very much in his career in very short period of time. But his advancement started to happen just after he changed his name into Xabaras Suleiman Hassan.
Be advised "Xabaras" is not an usual Urdu name and it's actually an anagram of Abraxas, which is an ancient name for the devil!
And I can't emphasize enough how lucky he was in his job. Other colleagues even started to call him The Doctor.
But I knew what he was up to and I've alerted my boss about his intentions. And my boss was also suspicious, so he thanked me for confirming his thoughts about him and then he called our religious police to conduct hisbah. The main muhtasib immediately ordered his arrest.
Xabaras Suleiman Hassan is now serving the life penance in prison, and I was kind enough to admit his wife into my household. She is now my third wife and she's very nice. My boss also promoted me. That's one great example of righteousness and wisdom of Allah.
Allahu Akbar!
@Gra Ra5 What? No. You don't understand. I've saved his soul, his wife and family and my firm from evil. Everyone are thankful to me. And I didn't seek any reward for that, but that just happened because Allah is great and He sees the goodness in people. But if you are an American, you don't see the devil is in your government. Your government is full of evil demons. Can't you see that?
I completely lost it at "chucky cheese truthers" 😂😂
what is that though?
@@stevesmith4901 Shane Dawson / Twitter propagated a rumor that Chuck E. Cheese reused old, uneaten slices to recreate full pizzas, and serve them to new customers.
@@GriffinWelch I see. Funny.
Interestingly in the myth of Varaha, at least ca. 600s BCE, says Vishnu in his form as the boar pulled the earth (which was a ball) out of the cosmic ocean and placed it in the sky. There’s also a phrase “kimvantu jagati prasoothuh” which is like “it spins on its own” (loosely).
The craziest idea I saw by a flat earther was the wooden motorcycle. You could give it a nickname "the splinter" We learned a long time ago not to make things like that out of wood.
Honestly, one of my favorite videos you guys have released. Incredibly nuanced and well thought out. Nice work. Also, could we please get a What Went Wrong or a Deep or Dumb focusing on Tron: Legacy?
Might be a bit niche, but "Philosophy of 'The Onion'" would be great
oh yes, would be highly appreciated, by me at least.
@@Sara3346 thank you fellow cohort
Would be even better if they shoutout nottheonion
reminds me of an evil organization known as 'the onion" in the Honor Harrington novels.
00:53 ... and more importantly what about Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: What Do They Know? Do They Know Things?? Let's Find Out!
I think that this might be the best Wisecrack ever.
I was surprised that there was no mention of the dunning-kruger effect.
There are surprisingly intelligent people believing in flat earth, people who literally build rockets out if scraps and as you see in the video a motorbike. A successful (kinda) rapper and a really good basketball player.
@@missingpatel7349 The more intelligent are the most likely to be victims of the dunning-kruger effect. That's why I questioned the lack of mention in the video.
@@jackmcdaniel1548 What you just said shows that you don't understand what the Dunning-Kruger Effect is. If you weren't a victim of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, you'd probably know that.
@@gastronomist 😆😂🤣
The comment section does the heavy lifting on that one ;)
Very clever young man, but I'm afraid that it's turtles all the way down.
What if one of the turtles fall on it's back? LMAO
You would need to be 12,064,800 feet above the earth to see it as a full disk (or globe) since you'll need to construct a right triangle where one angle is 60 degrees (half of 120 degrees), "d" is the distance to the earth, and "r" is the radius of the earth, then d = r/tan(60) = 6371 km/1.732 = 3678 km = 2285 miles. This says that you would have to be 3678 km (2285 miles) away from the earth to see it as a full disk. And since 5,280 feet make a mile you multiply that times the 2,285 miles to arrive at the distance.
Mind if i recommend my fellow Science-Fans
some Stuff?
Science or just Education in General or even just Fun in General?
I personally believe the Earth is a hollow cylinder.
You don't believe that, so you're a liar.
There is no belief in science only hypothesis and theory.
Like al of us
Nah, earth is a klein bottle
I want to believe that we live on a ring world.
Wisecrack: (Explain the Philosophy of how Falsification, Questions, and Arguments works in science)
Flat Earthers: Nope, you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye!
@BWGgy The only way for you to finally understand that all of the claims that you are making here are completely false, is for you to actually look for real informations concerning the nature of our reality. As long as you keep wallowing into your actual misunderstanding of the basics of reality, into the collection of disinformations and into the blatant lies promoted by the master deceiver flatsters, you won't ever get remotely close to reality. By the way, reality has nothing to do with the authorities. Actually, back in the past, authorities were burning people at the stake for telling the truth about our planet. Fortunately for you, the flatsters and their flattarded victims, of whom you are a part of, won't meet the same fate, as these barbaric acts are a thing of the past...at least in the minds of people who can show an actual rational thought processes. I'm pretty sure that if humanity didn't move forward from the ludicrous delusional false beliefs of the past, you new kind of clueless would still be killing the brilliant minds of today. Shake off your ludicrous delusional false beliefs dude, before they turn you into an irrecoverable complete idiot.
@BWGgy perfect example for anything mentioned in the video, you should actually watch it!
@BWGgy LOL! These so called Moon light/shade temperature experiments conducted by flattards are nothing else than badly conducted experiments and I've never seen one that was remotely close to actually respect the scientific method. They are all real jokes. When I was a kid, I was told these tiny lights in the sky were stars and planets and that the big shape shifting one that reflected the Sun's light was called the Moon. Then I grew up and, contrarily to you, so did my brain. Back then, my impressionable young mind use to absorb informations more gullibly. But of course, I grew out of being a clueless gullible kid. My beliefs in reality, such as the existence of stars and planets, have evolved into an understanding of actual reality. This understanding has nothing to do with mere beliefs anymore. On the other hand, because your brain remained cluelessly gullible and never got to more than a low I.Q. level, you were fooled into gullibly swallowing whole this delusive nonsensical deceptive flat earth crap psy-op. Tyson doesn't own science nor is he claiming to. Anyone who cares to work at it can get his hands on it. It's not reserved to some kinds of elites. You just need an actual functioning brain. If you were intelligent enough, you would have gotten a grasp on reality when you were in high school and possibly even become a decent individual equipped with a brain capable of showing rational thought processing abilities. Unfortunately, because you never did improved and because you never were much of anything but dumb as fuck from the start, it's easy to conclude how you became the perfect little victim for the flatsters who easily turned you into a flattard with their well threaded fabrications, lies, misinformation and disinformation. And you are so fucking cluelessly gullible that you've never even cared to question what they were feeding you with. Have you ever questioned the fact that none of your so called flattarded authorities (LOL! Authorities? Not!) has never ever even come close to demonstrate a predicting model for lunar and solar eclipses? Of course, your bullshit flat earth crap model can't predict these measurable occurrences, because it's not a working cosmological model in any way, shape or form. It's a complete fail on absolutely all levels of actual reality! Why is it possible to predict these occurrences over thousands of years with the heliocentric model? And not only the time to the millisecond of each of these occurrences but the different types of these eclipses and the exact locations where these occurrences can be witnessed. Because it's working with what can be referred to as the fucking reality you dumbass! You can't just use your physical senses to understand complex reality. Try to think, and mostly, when you get to what's actually referred to as actual thinking, try to grow a fucking brain!...
@BWGgy this is what delusion looks like.
@BWGgy If you're so dumb that you can't figure how you have been fooled with these biased and badly done so called experiments, what's the point of even discussing the topic? And as you are indirectly mentioning, the heliocentric model can be compared to a cosmological clock. But eclipses are occurrences that won't just happen as time is happening on a clock. There are lots of variables to take into account when calculating for the next solar or lunar eclipse. You might believe that the next eclipse will be as the next hour will on your clock, in equal intervals of 60 minutes type of calculation. But no, fool, no. It's not at all about equal intervals like it is on a time clock. And it's not only about the time of occurrence of solar and lunar eclipses. The specifics and changing locations where these occurrences will be seen on Earth can be calculated. The types of eclipse that will be observed at the time of occurrence can be exactly determinated. And as we know, no mathematics can ever apply to flat earth crap, as it is just a delusive deceptive ludicrous concept for the moronically gullible clueless idiots. Dude, anyone who have fallen for this utterly idiotic and delusive flat earth crap psy-op has to be at least as dumb as a goat. Dude, you might be socially functional, be able to keep a job, have a loving family and some kind of social network outside of your family but...nevertheless, you are dumb as fuck. Think and grow...a brain.
I have no dog in this fight. However, any psychologist who would suggest that someone who has an opposing idea/thought/theory than what is popular in society does so because they are feeling insignificant or in need of closure, is a psychologist you want to steer clear of. That kind of blanket judgment would be akin to me suggesting that the guy in the suped-up truck, who keeps riding my bumper all the way through town, does so because he's trying to compensate for an unusually small body part. Seriously, nobody can know someone else's motives for anything they do, unless that person tells them. Furthermore, why would you care? If you don't believe what they believe, so what? If their belief doesn't affect you, then go about your business and let them go about theirs. There's no need for name-calling, harassing, or mocking others who have different beliefs. Again, I would say that for a psychologist to suggest that those who have different ideas are deficient in some way, is appalling.
Like I said, I have no dog in this fight. I am curious to know WHAT people think about a variety of topics, but WHY they think what they do is their business. If they care to share, I will listen. But, it's not up to me, or anyone else, to impune a motive in the absence of a spoken one.
The fact that Anchorage airport is the best route for Comercial (not passenger) flights to trade goods from Asia to America and even Europe is because the distance is pretty short, because the earth is round...
Do Philosophy of Metalocalypse
I will continue to comment this even if it takes dozens of videos for this to get seen
Keep up the good fight. Any exposure to Dethklok is beneficial exposure.
someone give this man a f*cking medal
Brutal
Behind the curve is actually a love story about Mark and Patricia and I found it quite touching ha ha Ha
I shipped them so hard lol
It pained me then Mark said he wouldn't know what to do if proven wrong as his social circle depends on his belief.
@@0Clewi0 Yeah the look on his face when he was asked about that kinda broke my heart. It's about more than the truth now.
he became a flater just so he could get in those round tities
@@junior1388666 HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I think his comment makes more sense than any flat earth "teory"
a flat earther says the firmament is a glass ceiling, the firmament is all the planets and other objects held by the sun's influence, everything outside the sun's influence is outside the firmament where objects travel freely, one example are comets that have very long elliptical orbits that are under the sun's influence, are part of the firmament since they orbit the sun.
Considering all of the red herrings and confusion of cosmology at least you had that second law of thermodynamics meme at the beginning
If Earth was flat, every single pilot and air traffic control man would have to be in on it...
Tyronious Blaximus literally 10s of millions of people would have to be in on this massive ruse. And for what? What’s the point?
@@funnybone107 To make us feel insignificant so they can inject us and control us.
Flat earths claim that pilots “know.” For fun, look it up, it’s bizarre
@@FatheredPuma81 you put a flat earth believer in one of these flights so he could see with his very own eyes the sphere of the earth. He will say:
“The window of the spacecraft is curved lens. Earth is still flat.”
Fine. You put the flat earther in a spacesuit and take him outside of the spacecraft. He will say:
“The helmet visor is curved. Earth is still flat.”
Fine, you toss the flat earther out of the airlock with no spacesuit. He will hand signal:
“Space is making the vitreous fluid in my eye balls warped. Earth is still flat.
@@martincostasvigliecca8984, they are delusional and out of touch with reality.
OMG you guys are totally wrong, the Earth is NOT round!!!
It's an oblate spheroid ^_^
Its a chubby pear
Now you're just being overly correct.
Thank you! Finally, someone who knows what they’re talking about!
oblate spheroids are round tho
It's clearly humanoid
Remember, there's no "roll" in "troll".
Arguing a point that you know is wrong has a certain appeal to the Narcissist. It offers the Grandiose the notion of superiority over his reality. It is especially appealing to the mendacious by nature. It is a victory over his Mama's dominance which he hasn't gotten over just yet.
What. You believe that the earth exists? Wake up Sheeple. The earth doesn’t exist.
Atoms are mostly empty space, so everything mostly doesn’t exist.
This was the best joke, thanks man, you got a good delivery
People who believe in a "Multiverse" are just comic fanboys.
Of course the earth doesn't exists...it's all a holographic illusion
I can't accept that because it would mean this amazing ham sandwich I'm eating doesn't exist either. And that's just too far, man.
The problem with comparing Flat Earth Theory with other "unknown" or "unverifiable" theories is that...it's actually verifiable. There are people who have literally been shot into space and have seen that Earth is a sphere.
So, the question then becomes "Why would they lie?" And that's the question I haven't gotten a legitimate answer from in my brief interactions and relatively brief exploration of Flat Earthers' theories (some of the "answers" have ranged from "if they lie to you, that makes you stupid and they can control stupid people" [which can be said of literally any lie, so why believe anything?] and "If they say the Earth is round, they can continue to "fund" NASA and satellite projects while actually using that money to research other stuff that they apparently can't talk about..."). How could the governments of several different countries benefit from spreading a lie that the Earth is a sphere when it actually isn't?
The other thing that is verifiable is that we can see other planets from this planet. And they're spheres. So why would Earth be the only planet in the solar system (or universe, theoretically) that isn't a sphere?
There are so many actual problems in the world today, I have no idea why a person would dedicate their time to trying to prove such a meaningless and nonsensical theory that the Earth is flat.
Not to be a dick but the flat Earth is not a theory. If you want to call it something it's a hypothesis. Theories must be tested and verified.
Sadly "Cui Bono" to some is for of a spring board for paranoia.
@@robertostler6733 Fair enough. I would agree with this.
From what I've been able to gather (part of which has come from this video), The draw is in letting the mind focus solely on information that you and a select group of others seem to have (the idea that the world is flat), and thus becoming some kind of harbinger of a new era of enlightenment, to completely and radically shift the mindsets of others as previous scientists had done in centuries' past. They are so focused on this path of being the protagonists of their scientific odyssey that anything presented to them that SHOULD reshape their perception merely appears as another obstacle to work around.
@@robertostler6733 the flat theory was already tested and failed, that's why was discarted so long ago.
Not sure that there's much that can be done. It seems that humanity is splitting between those who respect expertise and those who scoff at experts
@18:15 This happens all the time with legal debating. Someone will say, "Well shouldn't law work like this?" - The question is a good one for someone who hasn't spent years learning the law. So you answer always has to be, "That's not how it [law] works." That leads to the rephrasing of the original question. "Well shouldn't it work that way?" Often the answer is yes it should. But the nature of the questions completely ignore WHY someone has to go to school for 3 years AFTER a 4 year degree just to practice. it ignores years of expertise and experience in favor of taking the exception: the minutely probable answers that must all align to reach a conclusion. That conclusion being so minutely improbable that it was never worth the time to engage in the thought process. Yes, we can answer all your questions. But do you want to solve the problem or do you want me to go back over the entire history of trial and error that led to the way our laws work. Look, I am totally dumb when it comes to so many things. I can't fix a car. My plants tend to die. My eating habits are terrible. But these are my expertise. I know this shit. So stop making excuses based on ignorance. The is how dumb kills.
As a microbiologist, the only thing worse than flat earth believers is watching b-roll of non-science people “sciencing”
What do you mean?
@@oskarhenriksen Imagine watching actors attempting to do your job. To laymen, it looks right based on limited knowledge, but to you and the people that do your job it is cringy.
While there were a few instances of actual scientists, the overwhelming majority of the b-roll (stock footage) were actors.
Anytime you see one person holding a glass container with a bright, colorful liquid and staring intensely at it or doing something to that liquid in the container, those are actors. The focus is on the "cool" science thing they're doing.
One example of a real scientist is that one guy covered head to toe and working in a biosaftey cabinet. He's probably working with some hazardous/highly infectious stuff.
@@pacobordercrosserSo you didn't have a problem with the video's script, but with the stock photos?
@@oskarhenriksen To be honest, I was just making a joke about how corny those actors were. Guten Morgan!
@@pacobordercrosser Ok, sorry, hard to discern sentiment online :)
I remember being a flatearther for 4 years, then I turned 5 years old
Did your parents tell you the earth was flat?
Whodly Fire hair They told me it could be whatever I want it to be, and *bang* logic kicked in at 5 👊🏻
@@peter12246 odd parenting, but ok
What is odd about telling the truth and not brainwashing kids with religion, as is done in the USA for example?
Nowadays whenever anyone writes "odd" I tend to think of ODD, the convicted rapist and child molesting FE cult guru.
@@whodlyfirehair38
My grandpa used to tell me "I once went for four years without a girlfriend. Then I had my first girlfriend." Ahhh nostalgia.
you can't get lunar cycle or day/night rotation if it's flat
plain science
16.05.2024
Johnny Hates Jazz - Shattered Dreams (my cover version 🤜🌐)
*_Sore much for your promises_* ☹
*_They died the day you 'let' me grow_* 👦➡👨
*_Caught up in a web of lies_* 🕸
*_But I was just too young to know_* 🤷♂
*_I thought it was truth_* 😤
*_Who taught me by your side_* 😠
(Chorus)
*_And NASA given me, given me_* 😡
*_Nothing but shitty dreams, shitty dreams_* 💩
*_Neil like Collins passed away, passed away_* ⚰⚰
*_Gone these 'pretty' hearts_* 😈😈
*_Two dead who lied to me_* 🤬
*_Woke up to reality_* 😎
*_And found the future plot so bright_* 👍
*_I left the imposter ball_* 🤜🌐
*_And baby things would work out right_* 🙏
*_I thought it was truth_* 😤
*_'Who' could do me so wrong_* 👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀
(Chorus) x2
*_Gone these 'pretty' hearts_* 😈😈
*_I thought it was truth_* 😤
*_Two dead who lied for gov_* 👎
(Chorus) x2
*_Oh no no no - two dead who lied to me_* 🤬
*_Oh oh, oh oh, lied to me_* 🤬
*_Sore much for your promises_* ☹
*_Sore much for your promises_* ☹