One Has To Die: The Earth or Capitalism

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  • @WisecrackEDU
    @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +171

    Once you check this video out BE SURE to check out Part Two over on Yellow Dot's channel, featuring a conversation between Michael and Yellow Dot's Staci Roberts-Steele.
    ua-cam.com/video/ot3ERDDh9Q4/v-deo.html

    • @UnquenchableHatred
      @UnquenchableHatred Місяць тому +10

      Pure communist propaganda

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +21

      @@UnquenchableHatred nah.

    • @CalAndAly
      @CalAndAly Місяць тому +7

      Best vid ever disarming the capitalist propaganda - thank you

    • @remyw.4959
      @remyw.4959 Місяць тому +3

      What happened to wisecrack? This was open propaganda. I miss Thug Notes and Aliens Guide.

    • @UselessKnowbody
      @UselessKnowbody Місяць тому

      The planet will not die. It will however extinguish most of us in the next cataclysm that happens every 12,000 years. The magnetic pole shift solar disaster in the CIA declassified Adam and Eve story.

  • @tombombaddie
    @tombombaddie Місяць тому +3551

    The Earth’s continued existence is an obstacle in the way of achieving 4% GDP growth every year. It has to go

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +567

      human life is simply inefficient to proper market operations

    • @SlavojZizekEspanol-libros
      @SlavojZizekEspanol-libros Місяць тому +57

      Holyyyyy Its that a David Harvey referencee

    • @nokotshehla2616
      @nokotshehla2616 Місяць тому +2

      😂

    • @mustafabarzanji9280
      @mustafabarzanji9280 Місяць тому +73

      The bottom line! America baby! Sacrifice family, other countries, friendships, health, and the environment ALL FOR THAT SWEET $$$$$ YASSS!!!

    • @Redactedlllllllllllll
      @Redactedlllllllllllll Місяць тому +52

      Earth's gonna be fine, it's people who are gonna be screwed.

  • @Bugisme23
    @Bugisme23 Місяць тому +2428

    Can you blame an oil company for gaslighting? Gas is literally their thing! :P

    • @xXRickTrolledXx
      @xXRickTrolledXx Місяць тому +39

      It only hurts when i laugh :(

    • @paolacordova5335
      @paolacordova5335 Місяць тому +10

      Trollololol . . . 🖤🖤🖤

    • @KnallisSillan
      @KnallisSillan Місяць тому +30

      I am honestly just waiting for them to start putting *lead* back in the fuel to vastly reduce the cost of making it, and then not tell us and keep the prices the same anyway.

    • @CaptPeon
      @CaptPeon Місяць тому +29

      ​@@KnallisSillanthey'd probably market it as "new and improved" or "un-woke fuel" and charge more

    • @thejustin3269
      @thejustin3269 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@paolacordova5335 lol. No

  • @Lioish
    @Lioish Місяць тому +487

    And always remember,
    “Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ― Edward Abbey

  • @darkranger116
    @darkranger116 Місяць тому +1033

    it would be nice if we lived in a world that wasnt run by sociopaths

    • @taragnor
      @taragnor Місяць тому

      That's ultimately the biggest flaw of capitalism is that it is system where the most greedy immoral people are favored to rise to the top. Greed should be something that's punished.

    • @TheMeritCoba
      @TheMeritCoba Місяць тому +99

      I am afraid that as long as we have structures that give too much power to specific individuals, sociopaths make sure to be those specific individuals.

    • @vulcanfeline
      @vulcanfeline Місяць тому +8

      somebody needs to tweak evolution just a little

    • @gothic_ace2037
      @gothic_ace2037 Місяць тому +9

      @@vulcanfeline natural selection is working over time and yet still not keeping up

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel Місяць тому +38

      problem is that being a sociopath seems helpful in getting to positions to run things

  • @Bulsara777
    @Bulsara777 Місяць тому +423

    As a fellow comrade once said, "Environmental activism without class struggle is just gardening with extra steps."

    • @alexandremattos6182
      @alexandremattos6182 Місяць тому

      A bazilian acctivist killed by plantation owners by the way

    • @AlanSilva-bu1kp
      @AlanSilva-bu1kp Місяць тому +48

      That fellow comrade is Chico Mendes

    • @efeemachado
      @efeemachado Місяць тому +30

      Brazil mentioned!!

    • @Bulsara777
      @Bulsara777 Місяць тому +10

      @@AlanSilva-bu1kp The one and only

    • @Alex_Barbosa
      @Alex_Barbosa 27 днів тому +2

      Awesome quote

  • @RobinKerkhof
    @RobinKerkhof Місяць тому +1211

    "The opposite of climate action is the USA." That seems accurate. 🤔

    • @AgentOracle
      @AgentOracle Місяць тому

      That's a lie. China won't stop polluting. India won't stop polluting. The USA is reducing, but 350 million doing better environmentally isn't enough to offset the 4 billion doing far, far worse.

    • @Mycelium
      @Mycelium Місяць тому +1

      Meanwhile they point and blame China for climate change. The truth is China has invested the most in renewable energy. Make it make sense.

    • @jimmytimmy3680
      @jimmytimmy3680 Місяць тому +38

      Most propagandized people on Earth.

    • @wisp7753
      @wisp7753 Місяць тому +5

      If only every country were to bring their levels to equal China or India, the world would be a better place.

    • @johnconnor2572
      @johnconnor2572 Місяць тому +8

      Ya India and China are doing way better on climate action

  • @secularnevrosis
    @secularnevrosis Місяць тому +88

    I remember watching a debate about climate change, many years ago. There were an economists and one biologist in the panel. The biologist simply put forward the problems with climate change. Extinction, change in weather patterns, droughts starvation and war etc etc. And then the need to do something about it.
    The economists then said something utterly incredible...
    "Yes, yes. But you see.. What is the point of this? There is no incentive to do this. Why should we use money on this problem?"
    The look of the biologist face when he heard this. And the answer.
    "What about the survival of the planet and our civilization? The survival of the ecosystem we are dependent on for our life? What about not condemning millions upon millions of innocent people to death?"

    • @thegrunbeld6876
      @thegrunbeld6876 Місяць тому

      I just don't see how do conservatives and traditionalits align themselves with the greedy corporations. The capitalists don't care about culture, societal values and norms, community or human civilizations ffs!

    • @sketch-eee4165
      @sketch-eee4165 Місяць тому +9

      Economists just can't think of the long-term gain. If we save the planet, we can get more money eventually. Smh.

    • @juststoppingby9259
      @juststoppingby9259 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@sketch-eee4165exactly. Cant really capitalize on anything if we are dead

    • @chozer1
      @chozer1 Місяць тому +1

      @@sketch-eee4165the planet will be fine. Also even if all co2 output was cut to 0 it will still happen the north pole will still melt ect

    • @davidkociol7728
      @davidkociol7728 Місяць тому +1

      Almost all economists are bourgeois in standpoint, is it really a surprise?

  • @g0ld3ney3
    @g0ld3ney3 Місяць тому +916

    Whenever a billionaire opens their mouth, it's safe to say they're lying

    • @matthewkornder5586
      @matthewkornder5586 Місяць тому +7

      That's not true and that's a stupid statement.

    • @g0ld3ney3
      @g0ld3ney3 Місяць тому +42

      @@matthewkornder5586 how so?

    • @blede8649
      @blede8649 Місяць тому

      ​@@g0ld3ney3 They often talk about how they want to increase their profit margins. They're not lying there.

    • @MichaelBNegron
      @MichaelBNegron Місяць тому

      @@matthewkornder5586 get the boot out of your mouth bro, you're losing oxygen to your brain

    • @skyisreallyhigh3333
      @skyisreallyhigh3333 Місяць тому

      @@matthewkornder5586 Its true, and the only stupid thing happening here is you defending people who would gladly enslave you.

  • @embergrey633
    @embergrey633 Місяць тому +817

    i truly adore how openly and loudly anti-capitalist wisecrack has gotten these days

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Місяць тому +304

      It's hard to think critically about things and not be anti-capitalist.

    • @samnorris6533
      @samnorris6533 Місяць тому +86

      Literally every single issue you can think of all eventually leads to money being the main problem. Or maybe even how prioritized capital gain is over literally anything else like human life or the planet we live on😂

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 Місяць тому

      ​@@dontmisunderstand6041it's actually the other way around. You're being told what to think. You aren't thinking for yourself and it's all soooo convenient that everything you're being told also includes "capitalism bad" instead of "these people are to blame" nope gotta blame the economic system. Not the political system or the people making/allowing these actions. But hey you're totally a thinker. Let me guess you think communism and socialism can work

    • @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist
      @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist Місяць тому +24

      @@samnorris6533 I’m sorry but this is just wrong. It’s a simple way of rounding up all the perceived issues and finding a boogie man to explain them all.
      So so so many of our greatest human inventions would not have been possible without the profit motive. I’m sorry but pretending otherwise is like sticking your head in the sand. I’m not saying that greed isn’t obviously the source of many problems, but this is just silly. China is the biggest source of pollution in the world. As in, if they don’t reduce emissions by a lot, it doesn’t matter what we do. We will not reduce global carbon emissions to the level we need them at, without China giving a shit about polluting. And they’re not capitalist. So to me, while I care greatly about the environment and the future, I think blaming greedy capitalists is not helpful, and it’s not even targeting the biggest contributor. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but this video just shows this massive global issue from such a narrow lens, and I think that’s bad and divisive.

    • @samnorris6533
      @samnorris6533 Місяць тому +63

      @@jimmytheenlightenedcentrist you're wrong sorryyyy, I never said we had to abolish the idea of profit. I said putting that shit at the top of the list in every area of society causes the shitshow were seeing today.

  • @harrietwindebank6051
    @harrietwindebank6051 Місяць тому +246

    “Inconsistent with the wellbeing of the company”.
    Where’s my world’s smallest violin…

    • @mardy3732
      @mardy3732 Місяць тому +11

      I gotchu 🎶🤏

    • @TheSpeep
      @TheSpeep Місяць тому +3

      Not a strong argument for the continued existence of your company, I gotta say.

    • @alexjeffrey3981
      @alexjeffrey3981 Місяць тому

      Continued human existence is incompatible with capitalism, you say?

  • @artemishallihan8973
    @artemishallihan8973 Місяць тому +436

    Short term gains trumps long term loss in the eyes of capitalists. Every. Single. Time.

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 Місяць тому

      THat's why people should be told that capitalism is not natural
      let them see nature- a forest is not full of predators, an eagle does not overexert the rodents, nor does an ant overexert the plants that they use to build their nests.
      Capitalism is as natural as a planes of africa being filled with lions only.
      Make normies care- make them finallly realize that allowances they do extrapolate up untill it hurts them.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Місяць тому

      As Keynes said... in the long term, we'll all be dead. Normal people hear that and think "oh, so we should do what we can now to make our own lives better". Capitalists think "oh, so it doesn't matter how much worse we make things, we won't face the consequences".

    • @scottandcoke1342
      @scottandcoke1342 Місяць тому +4

      I'm particularly flatulent today

    • @jimmytimmy3680
      @jimmytimmy3680 Місяць тому

      Endless growth, for the sake of growth (greed=capitalism) is a cancerous idea.

    • @TheViktorofgilead
      @TheViktorofgilead Місяць тому +25

      As long as the losses are socialized while the gains are private.

  • @CasualFox12495
    @CasualFox12495 Місяць тому +387

    Yeah, I don't think we have time left to slowly, gradually reduce consumption.

    • @navdragoni
      @navdragoni Місяць тому +25

      Now we must do this just for the damage reduction, to suffer a little less. A sudden change is never going to happen.

    • @Arashmickey
      @Arashmickey Місяць тому +5

      I think the idea is gaining traction. I don't think any degrowth curve, or growth curve of degrowth ideas, is steep enough. But it's still progress and that's worth mentioning.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Місяць тому +16

      @@navdragoni Historically speaking, sudden change is the primary method of change.

    • @pin65371
      @pin65371 Місяць тому +4

      The problem is even if we would consume less it wont matter. There are around 6.5 billion people that are just trying to get out of poverty. To even give them a comfortable quality of life will require a massive amount of resources. For people in wealthy countries to turn around and pull the rug on everyone else would be extremely selfish.

    • @TreesPlease42
      @TreesPlease42 Місяць тому +2

      We should build inland neocities with standards that provide extreme weather resistance. As our tools improve we should transition into underground habitats.
      This may sound excessive, but given the weather we're looking at we should start digging. Autonomous networks of drones can accelerate terraforming.

  • @xenoization
    @xenoization Місяць тому +658

    Ah yes. Word play is a fun game. Imagine if there were a group of "gardeners" going around converting oil CEOs into "fertilizer". It's just gardening guys, calm down.

    • @JChaos1120
      @JChaos1120 Місяць тому +79

      regenerative farming!

    • @LeonGreg
      @LeonGreg Місяць тому +46

      I've always wanted to be a gardener, so let's do it!

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Місяць тому +13

      ngl that sounds kinda tasty

    • @LeonGreg
      @LeonGreg Місяць тому +27

      @@xenoization so, a international coalition of Gardner's?

    • @joshuagharis9017
      @joshuagharis9017 Місяць тому +2

      Lol. ​@@JChaos1120

  • @CelAbration
    @CelAbration Місяць тому +50

    25 hour work week...means making art, cooking, much more time to clean, can actually have time to volunteer or even travel

    • @SnowWolf9999
      @SnowWolf9999 Місяць тому +5

      25 hr work week would be heavenly, I have so many hobbies that I barely get time to do, with both me and my wife working 40 to 50 hrs 5 days a week (not including commute times), get home eat dinner and maybe have a couple hours before you have to go back to bed, then the weekend is partially spent getting ready for the next work week (getting groceries, laundry, yardwork, etc...), there is hardly any time left to carve out for ourselves and do the things that we actually enjoy, except for the few weeks a year we get to take vacation time, a few years ago I used to have a job that was a 4 day work week (still worked 40+ hrs only Mon-Thurs) and having that extra day off (even though my wife still worked 5) was a great boost to my mental health, I was able to get all the errands completed on Friday then the weekends we got to have enough free time to have fun and relax.

    • @samneibauer4241
      @samneibauer4241 Місяць тому

      I think more people would volunteer because humans get bored really quickly and emotionally thrive from doing work that they can directly see and experience the benefits of. People do so much work, but barely any of it is stuff that they wanna do. However, at the same time, basically everyone's got a constructive hobby. Think of how much more work people would do that benefits them, their social group, family, and society if they were liberated from the drudgery of the jobs they currently do against their will.
      Especially if we had more time to socialize, we'd start to communicate and organize to solve real social problems really quickly, especially with the current wave of reaction we're seeing by people who are realizing how alienated and isolated they are from others and go out specifically to make friends and attend social events.

    • @eges72
      @eges72 13 днів тому

      Or actually working the job YOU LOVE AND CARE FOR. And where your work MATTERS.

  • @sdsw
    @sdsw Місяць тому +67

    Just before Soviet Union esteblished 40 hour week (when 50-60 hour working weeks were still a thing in the rest of the world), Lenin wrote "We should reduce working time to a 8 hour a day, with OBLIGATION of workers to spend 2 hours a day to learn about politics and warfare".

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 Місяць тому

      Yeah but he murdered the Mensheviks, fuck Lenin man🤣🤣

    • @correiaivan
      @correiaivan Місяць тому +5

      Because of the war communism and internationalisation of the proletarian revolution. It was his plan to do so

    • @alexjeffrey3981
      @alexjeffrey3981 Місяць тому

      Such a shame that Stalin handed the USSR over to the bureaucrats, crippling the workers' power in what was supposed to be the workers' vanguard.

    • @chozer1
      @chozer1 Місяць тому +6

      Yeah and it ended with working 14 hours without the chance to get a better life if you work harder. Its easy to write something but hard to make it so

    • @alexjeffrey3981
      @alexjeffrey3981 Місяць тому

      @@chozer1 yeah because the combination of the corrupted bureaucracy and the USA spending them under the table in the cold war. The USSR never really stood a chance once the German Revolution failed, even Lenin said as such.

  • @belmiris1371
    @belmiris1371 Місяць тому +360

    Oil Executives... what is it like knowing the world would be vastly better if you were not in it?

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +113

      they plugged their ears with money so can't hear the question

    • @joegar47
      @joegar47 Місяць тому +1

      Yet you and everyone you know use their product. Be different, not a bot.

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому +50

      ​@@joegar47was there another option? Could I have powered my car with some other available fuel? When other options became available, did oil executives diversify their holdings or bury the technology?
      But your pithy comment totally owned, bruh.

    • @AnonymousAnarchist2
      @AnonymousAnarchist2 Місяць тому +25

      ​@@joegar47And yet everyone who has a choice does not chose oil. Before solar and natrual gas got cheap it was wind and wood that powered everything distant enough to be off the grid.
      And the only reason we are getting natural gas from fossil sources is because of an accidental discovery of a process to extract natrual gass from shale but those resources are running low themselves, while producing natrual gas from wood has gotten cheaper and cheaper.
      Instead of being a sheep for an oil CEO's next big bonus; try answering why it was wind and wood, and why it is solar, wood and natural gas today. Oil companies are heading to a cliff of thier own making and succeeding at pulling the wool over your eyes to make you think thats great, but everyone whos had to make the choice had to do the reaserch themselves.. well they saw that cliff even back in the 1950's.

    • @joegar47
      @joegar47 Місяць тому

      @NWPaul72 just saying. If you don't like it don't use it. Don't use luxuries. Be different. You're spoiled like the rest of us

  • @Mgauge
    @Mgauge Місяць тому +135

    Looking at politicians today, I find out that, if anything, Captain Planet villains were too subtle.

    • @rinnin
      @rinnin Місяць тому +4

      Captain Planet. He’s a hero,

  • @120Coyote
    @120Coyote Місяць тому +124

    Won’t someone please think of the corporations! They’re just pointing out the honest truth, that WE’RE the real problem…

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Місяць тому +10

      Right, large corporations are people, which makes them the most minor of all minorities. There are only a few thousand in the whole world!

    • @jonatand2045
      @jonatand2045 Місяць тому +1

      It can be both. People vote for those who deny climate change. People complain when when anything more efficient than car dependent suburban sprawl is built. They buy enormous wasteful trucks and travel via jet everytime they can.

    • @trollconfiavel
      @trollconfiavel Місяць тому

      ​​@@jonatand2045 you just ignored that people vote for whom the capital decides they're allowed to vote

    • @jonatand2045
      @jonatand2045 Місяць тому

      @trollconfiavel
      Nope. Leftists could have voted for Bernie, but i guessed it was easier to be activists in social media.

    • @Adriaticus
      @Adriaticus Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jonatand2045In America people have two legitimate options:
      A candidate who doesn't believe in climate change and a candidate who won't take action against climate change.
      Choose wisely lol.

  • @DankFloyd-fe9bi
    @DankFloyd-fe9bi Місяць тому +30

    I used to work in the oil and gas industry and hated every second of it. This video is my favourite thing you've ever done. I know personally, the people at the top of this thing are well aware of what's happening to the environment, they just don't give a shit about anything but their quarterly report.

  • @jomorim
    @jomorim Місяць тому +73

    Like someone put it, climate activism without class struggle is just gardening.

    • @Matty002
      @Matty002 Місяць тому +16

      "Ecology without class struggle is [just] gardening"
      was said by Chico Mendes and he deserves respect and credit

    • @ciro_costa
      @ciro_costa Місяць тому +3

      It was said by Chico Mendes

    • @efeemachado
      @efeemachado Місяць тому +2

      Brazil mentioned!!

  • @Liam1991
    @Liam1991 Місяць тому +288

    Capitalism needs to be overthrown. It can't be done away with by reform

    • @Shangori
      @Shangori Місяць тому

      The funniest thing is that every single communist country in the world, and there are only a few, have introduced capitalism in limited form, because otherwise they'd be gone. Except for ONE.. North korea.
      Your utopia for the taking.

    • @Billiethekid8
      @Billiethekid8 Місяць тому

      🤡 🤡 what next you idiot?even far left thinkers like Zizek said capitalism should be thrown in trash but there is no successful alternative it was tried in 20 century but failed miserably

    • @TheMoviesWithMike
      @TheMoviesWithMike Місяць тому +4

      What would you rather have in its place?

    • @Liam1991
      @Liam1991 Місяць тому +62

      @@TheMoviesWithMike a planned economy

    • @Paradoxe44
      @Paradoxe44 Місяць тому +71

      @@TheMoviesWithMikeRevolution. Planned Economy. Democratic centralism.

  • @gen_li7725
    @gen_li7725 Місяць тому +105

    Things like this make me think of how all of the people in my immediate circles (despite being pretty aware and not wanting capitalism to rule their lives as much as it does) literally self soothe through consumption.. I do the same thing.. I try to restrict it, but buying a treat after work or a new shirt is like the way we self soothe after a shitty day of being yelled at in work. And I hang out either people who climb, hike, camp, paddle etc. but we don’t have the time or money to always be doing things that actually connect us to the earth and each other. It’s just sad. Human existence has become so sad under capitalism

    • @Artuconisio
      @Artuconisio Місяць тому

      you're confusing consumerism with capitalism, the problem isn't owning things, it's alienating the producers from the fruit of their labor and the accumulation of capital by the capitalists

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 Місяць тому +25

      I wish more people rrecognized this. A lot of folks have a visceral negative reaction to the concept of degrowth, like "But if I can't buy all the stuff then I just have to sit in a cave eating dirt by candlelight and being sad," and it's like -- no? The whole point here is to reduce production and consumption while still meeting everyone's needs, so you'd have a whole lot more free time to do stuff that actually makes you happy, instead of barely scraping by emotionally by buying stuff that reminds you of feeling things.

    • @FinalMeep
      @FinalMeep Місяць тому +9

      @@eyesofthecervino3366 Yup. Even if presented with a picture where their lives are better in many, many ways, people just can't fathom something that's so radically different from what they're used to, and reflexively reject it. I mean, I get that "change" is scary for the human brain, but damn - not even entertaining an idea for a little while before dismissing it? Sad, really.

    • @chanhuynguyenle301
      @chanhuynguyenle301 Місяць тому +1

      So communism or socialism is the solution ?

    • @veemo8605
      @veemo8605 Місяць тому

      ​@@chanhuynguyenle301yes

  • @CasualFox12495
    @CasualFox12495 Місяць тому +112

    If my rent also goes down so I can work 25hr a week...

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +18

      all good options

    • @QuietlyHere666
      @QuietlyHere666 Місяць тому +33

      "This Chinese man discovered this one HACK! Landlords HATE it!"

    • @wizardpig02
      @wizardpig02 Місяць тому +4

      @@QuietlyHere666This fucking sent me lmao

    • @Null4eva
      @Null4eva 13 днів тому

      If they could stop raising my property taxes every year, and my insurance...oh and it people would stop getting drunk and breaking windows and doors....and if cleaning supplies and building materials would be free. Ah and if the bank would start using the barter system for the mortgage,I could pay them with fruit from my orchard or with carpentry electrical work 😂

  • @g.lucchio5660
    @g.lucchio5660 Місяць тому +73

    Someone warned us in 1916: "Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to Socialism or regression into Barbarism."

    • @michah321
      @michah321 Місяць тому +4

      @@g.lucchio5660 over 100 years ago, and guess what? Still hasn't happened. That to me is more evidence against this idea than for it. Something predicted 100 years ago that never happened doesn't instill in me a sense of urgency in its truth.

    • @g.lucchio5660
      @g.lucchio5660 Місяць тому +7

      @@michah321 yh, because it is not like we are living on a climate catastrophe, right?
      Rosa was right: we are living on barbarism.

    • @michah321
      @michah321 Місяць тому +1

      @@g.lucchio5660 look outside, does it really look any different? Look at historic temperatures everywhere. They haven't changed. They really haven't. I did check. There's no noticeable difference in 40 years.

    • @g.lucchio5660
      @g.lucchio5660 Місяць тому

      @michah321 This is just a lie. Global temperature has fluctuated to a general increase sonce 1850, to a point of challenging wildlife and even our social structures. Today, we have millions of people affected by the climate crisis and forced to flee for a diverse range of drastic effects of climate change. You probably have not checked the data you said you do, but regardless, they go against your position.

    • @eggdealer5216
      @eggdealer5216 Місяць тому +4

      @@michah321 "nuh uh"

  • @valuethug
    @valuethug Місяць тому +25

    That last quote by Saito is exactly what the Powell memo was pened to prevent. America figure out back in the '70s that people with free time get politicaly engaged and said, 'nope'.

  • @Problempossum11
    @Problempossum11 Місяць тому +35

    In an ideal world we should be slowing down not speeding up. Less work and more focus on family, nature and community. We're out here speed running life, achieving more than our ancestors did in a fraction of the time. No wonder we're all burnt out. Living to only 40 proably felt a lot longer during slower times and we should be taking steps to get back to that. We have so many people on this planet, we dont need everyone working so much.
    We've sped things up to the point where we burn theough trends at an alarminh speed, nothing has time to develop and grow in a meaningful way and art and culture has stagnated. We're not only burning down the planet, but we arent even having fun while doing it anymore.

    • @stephendaley266
      @stephendaley266 Місяць тому +8

      I just look at the illogical way we design our cities.
      We force the poorest workers to have the longest commutes.
      We spread our cities out with single family homes as far as the eye can see, then complain that there isn't enough density to justify public transit.

    • @robertbones326
      @robertbones326 Місяць тому +1

      Family nature and community is unfulfilling for some people.

    • @Dovahkiin0117
      @Dovahkiin0117 Місяць тому +1

      @@robertbones326won’t have a chance to care about anything if we dont get this under control

  • @MissMemDK
    @MissMemDK Місяць тому +386

    Seeing this really makes me want to do something, be part of something. If climate change and capitalism goes on, it will only end when it inevitably destroys us.

    • @CaptPeon
      @CaptPeon Місяць тому +51

      Look for local organizers, either environmental or socialist parties to rally, agitate, and advocate for progressive change! Getting directly involved has REALLY helped my feelings of powerlessness while achieving actual concessions from our local government and courts! Workers of the world unite! ✊🏼

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому +31

      ​@@CaptPeon agree with getting organized. working class solidarity usually starts with the community organizers.

    • @valoriethechemist
      @valoriethechemist Місяць тому +7

      There are organizations and people attempting to do quite a bit. Many of them have been farmers and it's why they're making hugs pushes to shut down farms. There's a lot to be a part of but there doesn't seem to be a consensus about a vision for the future we need. I think that's a marketing battle that hasn't been one and is difficult to fight when oil is funding the opposite.
      What do you think you could be a part of if the options of business and marketing efforts to build a world where we thrive or marketing and activism, such as building a renewable farm or marketing a lifestyle that's sustainable, were open to you?

    • @CaptPeon
      @CaptPeon Місяць тому +8

      @@valoriethechemist IMO, we don't need to start with prescriptions. Start with community outreach and organizing and let the PEOPLE dictate the immediate needs that need addressing. Doing so, ensures a legit grass roots movement!

    • @gJonii
      @gJonii Місяць тому

      The ideas presented in this video seem vastly more destructive than capitalism + climate change combined.
      Just because you have good intentions does't mean you can't cause deaths of millions. I'm sure once the bodies started piling up from consequences of their policies, like famines and other disastrous lacks of crucial goods and services, they'd be horrified. But at that point, it would already be too late to save the first few million souls.

  • @helpfulcommenter
    @helpfulcommenter Місяць тому +230

    “We will never get to Mars if we work less”
    -Elon Musk, probably

    • @disky01
      @disky01 Місяць тому +65

      I would LOVE to see Elon go to Mars. Truly. He doesn't even need to come back.

    • @Bojoschannel
      @Bojoschannel Місяць тому +6

      Total Recall is what would happen if Elon took over mars

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Місяць тому +10

      "we won't NEED to go to Mars if you guys would knock it off" -- me

    • @RNorthex
      @RNorthex Місяць тому +3

      and he has all the free time and money to tweet that as often as he likes

    • @kandeyefatou3637
      @kandeyefatou3637 Місяць тому

      Ááááaaaáaaáaaaa😊áaáaá😊😊​@@Bojoschannel

  • @phillipanselmo8540
    @phillipanselmo8540 Місяць тому +31

    "environmentalism without class struggle is just gardening"

  • @joshuacr
    @joshuacr Місяць тому +18

    Gee, the people who want to make the most amount of money and most amount of bonuses no matter how much they had before are blaming us because we're not stopping them enough from trying to make the most amount of money? Shocking.

  • @hoifzf
    @hoifzf Місяць тому +83

    The CEO is also old like bro doesn't care about the generations he's hurting cause it won't be his problem he'll die peacefully before shit gets crazy

  • @Devon12096
    @Devon12096 Місяць тому +71

    I want a second wisecrack channel where Micheal picks a random internet article or trend and just rants about it unscripted for 10-15 minutes.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +45

      I would . . . love this?
      Many of our streams already basically include this but it's buried in a longer video.

    • @Martcapt
      @Martcapt Місяць тому

      ​@WisecrackEDU I don't have time for streams, but the idea of the other commenter could be fun.
      I can be taking a bath, shit, or cooking diner and have it in the background, and it has some structure (more than in a livestream, at least)

    • @SageWon-1aussie
      @SageWon-1aussie Місяць тому

      ​@@WisecrackEDUWe would love this too.

    • @johnsmith-wp5kb
      @johnsmith-wp5kb Місяць тому +2

      ​@@WisecrackEDUplease do it!

    • @DANKKrish
      @DANKKrish Місяць тому +2

      @@WisecrackEDU second channel just for the clips of Michael ranting during streams

  • @BlueBeetle1939
    @BlueBeetle1939 Місяць тому +187

    WE wont get to pick anything

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +37

      true

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 Місяць тому +3

      Why not? If you live in a democracy then you do.

    • @FunLovingPotato
      @FunLovingPotato Місяць тому +36

      ​@TheManinBlack9054 we don't have the capital these companies do

    • @caylaflower_iii
      @caylaflower_iii Місяць тому +57

      ​@@TheManinBlack9054you must not live in the United States. We live in a corporate oligarchy under the guise of democracy. Our electorates vote for who lines their pockets best. The popular vote does not determine the rulership of the US at a federal level. I'd rather live elsewhere.

    • @dwarvenjesus4266
      @dwarvenjesus4266 Місяць тому +2

      @@caylaflower_iii Then move.

  • @SomePerson-oz2xt
    @SomePerson-oz2xt Місяць тому +44

    We don't need "new theorists" or "new ideas" to end capitalism, the plan is the same as it has always been. Sieze the means of production. There is no way around it.

    • @mrfigaloopierre9610
      @mrfigaloopierre9610 Місяць тому +9

      I agree with that, but we still need a plan for governance after the corporate elite fall.

    • @SomePerson-oz2xt
      @SomePerson-oz2xt Місяць тому +5

      @@mrfigaloopierre9610 don't worry, we do

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Місяць тому +1

      ​ Personally i would want to see a system like the one that was in libya before the "rebels" overthrew the government,where the people can vote for different policies but theres still a central leader (or dictator, as the cappies call it), otherwise known as jamahiriyah @mrfigaloopierre9610

    • @SomePerson-oz2xt
      @SomePerson-oz2xt Місяць тому

      @@abas656thegodemperor9 socialism entails using a system called "democratic centralism", look it up, its similar to what you described in concept

    • @trollconfiavel
      @trollconfiavel Місяць тому +3

      ​@@abas656thegodemperor9 democratic centralism

  • @basicsimp8798
    @basicsimp8798 Місяць тому +61

    It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of Capitalism.

    • @proveritate1205
      @proveritate1205 Місяць тому

      Capitalism is just free market, of course it's a desirable form of economic organization. Regardless of that, your statement is untrue: many works of literature and cinema have imagined alternative systems to capitalism within the realm of fiction.

    • @zapermunz
      @zapermunz 15 днів тому

      @@proveritate1205 The market isn't free if it is unmined by capitalists themselves to control markets for their own benefit.

  • @lebaronmarcus
    @lebaronmarcus Місяць тому +57

    In my 20s and 30s I believed climate change is such an major threat to humanity that we needed to use the tools we have to solve it, ie capitalism. Over time I realized that capitalism itself is the problem, so any solution needs to be anticapitalism (such as nationalizing the renewable energy sector, and you mentioned in the video).

    • @matthewkornder5586
      @matthewkornder5586 Місяць тому

      Anti capitalism is communism. You're trying to control things you don't own.

    • @umbralupus6488
      @umbralupus6488 Місяць тому +4

      ...So instead of having private capitalists control the means of production, we should have government bureaucrats control the means of production instead of, say, the workers. Its just more capitalism, just without a market economy.
      It should be noted that the German spd saying that socialism was when government started drama with Marx calling them "vulgar socialists" (as in fake), and that Engels himself noted that state ownership of the means of production was the "final stage of capitalism. Well, all that and anarchists exist.

    • @egggge4752
      @egggge4752 Місяць тому

      Obviously a country that nationalizes an entire sector is a socialist nation and revolutionary. Every nation that wasnt, privatised everything.

    • @ciro_costa
      @ciro_costa Місяць тому +5

      @@umbralupus6488 To say that it would be the same thing is just historically innacurate. The moment you remove the incentive of endless growth present in logic of capital, the problem is solved. But as long as you're anti-capitalist that's good enough.

    • @umbralupus6488
      @umbralupus6488 Місяць тому +1

      @@ciro_costa Still by definition capitalism just without the market economy. Nevermind the fact that any form of capitalism is still a class based economic structure, and just like all class based societies beforehand will always see the ruling class perpetuate and consolidate power and inevitably exploit the lower classes, whether it's the private capitalists or upper level state bureaucrats or even the old feudal lords. This isn't a problem that is unique to the current market capitalist paradigm.

  • @Lack_Of_Interest
    @Lack_Of_Interest Місяць тому +108

    "The Earth, obviously!" - Capitalists

    • @Miller54K
      @Miller54K Місяць тому +2

      Because all other systems care so much for the environment?

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому

      ​@@Miller54K hilariously, China (state capitalist) is doing far better than the U.S on renewable power investments.

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому +14

      ​@@Miller54K "other systems" like China? the state-capitalist country? not dramatically different, they have billionaires, too.

    • @yaromier1680
      @yaromier1680 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@Miller54K at least some other systems are physically able to care about environment lol

    • @dogo523
      @dogo523 Місяць тому +1

      Didnt the video itself say a major part of CO2 emissions are caused by the fossil fuel industry? Even if there are other trouble makers i think this one causes a large share of the issue

  • @lucienarindel5836
    @lucienarindel5836 Місяць тому +206

    Goodbye Earth, I’m moving to Venus’ upper atmosphere

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Місяць тому +4

      lets go be balloon boiz!

    • @user-sm1bi5ix6l
      @user-sm1bi5ix6l Місяць тому +5

      ~Nef Anyo, probably

    • @UselessKnowbody
      @UselessKnowbody Місяць тому

      You should reincarnate in the Pleaides. Earth will not die. It will however extinguish most of us in the next cataclysm that happens every 12,000 years. The magnetic pole shift solar disaster in the CIA declassified Adam and Eve story.

    • @user-je2dr4zm3b
      @user-je2dr4zm3b Місяць тому +1

      Seems fair. At this point Earth's gonna be hotter and more toxic.

    • @mrfigaloopierre9610
      @mrfigaloopierre9610 Місяць тому

      Can I come too?

  • @correiaivan
    @correiaivan Місяць тому +7

    I'd say capitalism is the problem and it doesn't depend on who runs it. It is deemed to be this way all the time

  • @kimberlystreet4504
    @kimberlystreet4504 Місяць тому +13

    I suggest Kim Stanley Robinson’s novel “Ministry for the Future” as an example of how transition away from carbon fuels could result using direct action, in terms of violence, legal policy, and economic changes. The moneyed interests of the world are more fragile than we think.

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому +2

      I like his stuff, I'll have to read that. The Mars books and Antarctica really stuck with me.

    • @SageWon-1aussie
      @SageWon-1aussie Місяць тому +1

      ​@@NWPaul72It's a good book.

    • @ciro_costa
      @ciro_costa Місяць тому

      you know this was done more than 100 years ago for the first time, right?
      We have a prooved rulebook in how to end capitalism.

    • @gokuformanvsfood
      @gokuformanvsfood Місяць тому

      ​​​@@ciro_costayeah but we need to update that to technological realities of our modern world, marx wasnt fighting against companies making missles that could litterally hit postage stamp from 100s of miles away, he wasnt fighting against a 100 trilllion dollar global energy industry thats been taking advantage of the invention secrecy act of 1951 passed by Lyndon B Johnson to suppress any innovation that would greatly reduce the need for oil and gas. Theres a reason when someone invents something that gets over 100 miles to the gallon that patent is usually shevled by the us goverment and or exxon mobile at minimum and most time the inventors get a sudden case of death.

    • @Dovahkiin0117
      @Dovahkiin0117 Місяць тому

      Doesn’t any change require direct action

  • @ddddmmmmm
    @ddddmmmmm Місяць тому +63

    I hate Saito Kohei's anti-soviet retoric. He ignores that most of our labour rights came from social movements directly inspired by Soviet Union. Tax the riches, degrowth... How can we do that in a world where oil companies have more political power than elected governments? Honestly, we have no hope outside radical changes

    • @NuttaButta420
      @NuttaButta420 Місяць тому

      if you're throwing the word communism around in America, you basically have to degrade the Soviets for anyone to take you seriously

    • @ddddmmmmm
      @ddddmmmmm Місяць тому

      @@NuttaButta420 Its true, but this is called opportunism

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому +2

      There's always direct action, but it can have consequences. The Crooks boy very nearly made his point.

    • @ddddmmmmm
      @ddddmmmmm Місяць тому

      @@NWPaul72 Would it change anything? US shitness is a STATE by-partisan policy, not a democrat/republican/Trumpist/whatever one. I don't mean individual action. I mean organizing ourselves, the working class, with a clear anti-capitalist message. Understanding the concrete historical facts that led to our current situation, which includes capitalism being the core source of our environmental and social problems, and socialism being the big force behind emancipation. Should we ignore that the civil rights, feminism, labor rights, anti-fascism, they were all organized by communists? Refusing that is endorsing the common-sense idea that there is no solution

    • @pin65371
      @pin65371 Місяць тому +7

      My family fled the soviet union. Some family members were sent to the gulag where they died. Others starved to death. Others were shot. I've heard enough stories to know that it was basically as close to living in hell while still being alive.

  • @eureka5635
    @eureka5635 Місяць тому +30

    When Automation and AI become advanced enough, we will need to shed capitalism unless we want to live in cyberpunk without any of the cool bits.

    • @Noxx55
      @Noxx55 Місяць тому

      AI is extremely bad for the environment.

    • @jonatand2045
      @jonatand2045 Місяць тому

      No meed to worry abput it. We are kinda going to skip the cyberpunk part to go into the ai gods era.

    • @spacecowboy5486
      @spacecowboy5486 Місяць тому +2

      Aren't we already living in Cyberpunk without the cool bits?

  • @517moe
    @517moe Місяць тому +35

    Oh no, not Saito Kohei!! As a leftist in Japan I'm frustrated with the guy's opportunism. Degrowth is a wonderful idea but it's just not compatible with liberal democracy. He knows that. We NEED radical change. While his analysis of the problem is not bad, his "solution" only works within (and for) the very Capitalist system he is criticizing. I think he is being purposely vague and idealist so that his books sell well without being censored. It stops the movement in its tracks and distracts from making real change. Is wisecrack none the wiser??

    • @ddddmmmmm
      @ddddmmmmm Місяць тому +4

      In fact, he complains about greenwashing doing more harm than good, but his ideas de-radicalize people in the same way...

    • @jadl3278
      @jadl3278 Місяць тому +2

      Idk either. Didn't think wisecrack would go in this direction. Very weird. Channel should be more bipartisan.

    • @efeemachado
      @efeemachado Місяць тому

      This. There's NO WAY to NOT take radical action. As much as some communicators don't want to recognize it and use the word 'revolution' because it might scare some people off, it still is the only solution to the problem we are in. No amount of protest or "reforms" can make capitalism transition gradually to whatever he thinks that society will be, and believing in that is absurdly idealistic. Engels was already criticizing these kind of ideas 200 years ago with his book "The Development of Socialism from Utopia to Science"

    • @DinoCism
      @DinoCism Місяць тому +2

      This is all true. I still find it hopeful that people are coming around. It sucks that he needs to distance himself from the socialist countries which are already doing this shit (China, Vietnam, Cuba, DPRK: all these countries have a co-op sector of the economy and state control of the energy sector). That said, bit by bit reality is radicalizing the libs. Once you understand this stuff is necessary it's a pretty small step to understanding you can't get to it through a political system which the corporations have bought long ago. Hell, China has their army planting a forest the size of Ireland while the US military creates more emissions than 100 countries combined. As depressing as it is that we are not doing more in the West, China's high speed rail network which connects every major city and their relentless government funding of green energy shows that the solutions exist: it's just a matter of wresting power from corporate hands and having a state that can overrule them.

  • @a.randomjack6661
    @a.randomjack6661 Місяць тому +6

    Socrates ‘Wealth is addictive, the rich will eventually destroy society'.
    Look up pathocracy if you think you can understand very different mindsets.

  • @BlakeTheDrake
    @BlakeTheDrake Місяць тому +9

    So, I don't wanna undermine Saito - I love his book, and I'd love to see his vision made reality. But one one point, at least, I think he's being overly optimistic. Because I actually DO HAVE a 25-hour work-week - heck, most weeks, it's closer to 20, spread over three days. I've got more spare time than most people can DREAM of. Do I use it to spend more time with my family? Nope, I'm happily single and visit my parents maybe once a month. Do I exercise, engage in sports, garden, volunteer, or get involved in local politics? Also no! But you should see my collection of Platinum Trophies and Steam-Achievements...
    Nothing like a good videogame to help you forget, for a time, the seemingly-inexorable descent towards the complete collapse of our biosphere. Take it from me.

    • @J_A_W_
      @J_A_W_ Місяць тому +2

      Sounds like you’re still spending most time doing something that’s relatively low on CO2 emissions. :)

    • @trollconfiavel
      @trollconfiavel Місяць тому

      Well, we need everyone to have a 25 hour work week to make society functional, not just some exceptions.

    • @EBFilmsMan
      @EBFilmsMan Місяць тому

      A fellow gamer. Nice to meet you.

    • @davidchristenes9062
      @davidchristenes9062 Місяць тому

      You think that is the optism in his view? Amazing...

  • @TheLeevitify
    @TheLeevitify Місяць тому +124

    We all know which one is going to get chosen.

    • @Touhou20246
      @Touhou20246 Місяць тому +9

      Sadly at least if you are saying that money will be chosen over the safety of earth because they would rather make money then save the planet and have renewable energy but if you are referring to earth being chosen instead of money then yay. P.s I feel like maybe we should just start a #boycottbigoilforever

    • @dwarvenjesus4266
      @dwarvenjesus4266 Місяць тому +1

      @@Touhou20246 You've never heard of the NYC horse poo problem, have you?

    • @Touhou20246
      @Touhou20246 Місяць тому +2

      @@dwarvenjesus4266 I have heard of that I just thought that it was no longer an issue in the modern day what with less people in New York riding horses everywhere.👍🏻😅😑

    • @dwarvenjesus4266
      @dwarvenjesus4266 Місяць тому +1

      @@Touhou20246 Why are fewer people riding horses nowadays?

    • @Touhou20246
      @Touhou20246 Місяць тому

      @@dwarvenjesus4266 well because of cars but just because that is the case doesn’t mean I am going to give up saving the environment and blindly submit to big oil and let them kill the planet for money if anything I still want pure electricic cars, wind power and solar power to be the energy sources to fuel everything within the USA and abroad.

  • @alphamorion4314
    @alphamorion4314 Місяць тому +16

    "and if you're still here for some reason"...
    Well... You told me to stay until the end... :(

  • @eshmaelmlambo9682
    @eshmaelmlambo9682 Місяць тому +30

    I really love this channel. I always get so happy to hear the worst news from you guys

    • @Miller54K
      @Miller54K Місяць тому

      Or at least the worst takes.

  • @deathstarskeetshooter8418
    @deathstarskeetshooter8418 Місяць тому +8

    Those pro oil ads that say hospitals NEED oil, and a guy going on a date NEEDS oil, distinctly reminds me of that chapter in Moby Dick where the narrator sings the praises of the whaling industry and goes on and on about how vital whale oil is.

    • @EBFilmsMan
      @EBFilmsMan Місяць тому

      Sure, we need oil or an equivalently versatile chemical to make many of the world's modern products. I even have a plastic pump inside my brain that pumps fluid down my spinal column so that my head doesn't swell up. But we have ways of making oil renewably that will not have the nasty side effect of fucking up the planet.

  • @UnimpressedViking
    @UnimpressedViking Місяць тому +14

    which will *WE* choose? who’s “we”, billionaires?

  • @danielnemesio3388
    @danielnemesio3388 Місяць тому +10

    At twelve, back in 2010, I wrote an essay talking about how is pointless to shift the responsibility to everyday person about recycling and daving water when they didn't putted in the effort to make more biodegradable packaging and doesn't matter that keeping my faucet from liking saves 5l of water per week when they don't actually tell us if 5 litterz is a lot or not and don't tell us how many millions of litters they waste on farming and industry

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому +1

      Mostly agree, but water on a farm isn't wasted, it's invested. I've made a lot of my wages making watering systems more efficient and effective. Agricultural runoff isn't wasted water, it's contaminated water that needs treatment. But God no, no American farmer wastes anything!

    • @danielnemesio3388
      @danielnemesio3388 Місяць тому +1

      @@NWPaul72 I am not talking about familiar agriculture, but industrial farming, and in my country they usually mess up a lot and are heavily scrutinized for misusing water during draughts for both plants and cattle

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому

      @@danielnemesio3388 my bad, I was being defensive. I didn't take industrial ag into consideration and you're right, they are huge polluters and abusers of the public trust. In my area there are lots of family farms, I got blinded by the familiar. Enjoy the rest of your week!

  • @srf2767
    @srf2767 Місяць тому +14

    Jeff Rosenstock's album, "HELLMODE" lives in my mind rent-free when thinking about this stuff

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +5

      Haven't heard it! Going to listen asap.

    • @playitagainzaphod1405
      @playitagainzaphod1405 Місяць тому +1

      Such a great album

    • @Arashmickey
      @Arashmickey Місяць тому

      For me it's Rap News episode 17: Canada vs Australia - The War on Terra

  • @zenleeparadise
    @zenleeparadise Місяць тому +33

    Through a series of unfortunate events, I am no longer driving despite living in a car-centric city, so I've been walking a lot more, riding the bus a lot more, and riding my bike more. Since I've been doing this, I've already found myself feeling much closer to the other folks who live in my city. It's actually been really refreshing, and as strange as it sounds, its very freeing to not have a car. I have to plan things better, sure, and getting around takes longer, but I think it is completely worth the trade offs. I'm healthier, I have more positive interactions with strangers than I used to, am more confident, and I know my city better. There's something very zen about waiting for the bus - a concession to the universe that not all of my time needs to feel productive. I look at all of the accidents I see every day (they're constant in Phoenix) and I feel silly for having never seriously considered what I would do if that happened to me, until it did. Think about how much we're all putting our eggs into one basket with our cars. We're putting our lives on the line, polluting our environment, paying $100+ a month on insurance, then there's the gas, and upkeep, and some people even have car payments! - that's hundreds of dollars a month, and for what? Just to save a bit of time while commuting to a place miles away in a different neighborhood or even a different city (very common in the Phoenix area) that you'd never have taken a job in if you didn't have a car to begin with? Then what, if you can't drive anymore? I mean it's such a terrible idea and yet it's the status quo for most people, and we've designed our entire society around it.

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Місяць тому +2

      When I lived in town an electric bike changed my world drastically. I was working 17 miles from home when my truck blew a head gasket. I bought the second cheapest one on Amazon and rode it about 2500 miles, mostly to and from work. My butt was iron! Got the truck fixed and lost all those gains in a year 🥴

    • @zenleeparadise
      @zenleeparadise Місяць тому +2

      @@NWPaul72 yeah, back when I had a car I was working 16 miles away from my apartment, and there was a time where my car needed an expensive repair that I couldn't fix right away, and I cycled from and back to my apartment for that job five days a week for like 3 months. It wasn't sustainable, it was so exhausting, and when summer starts creeping in here in Phoenix it can make a mile feel like an eternity even to someone that's fit, because that direct sun just makes everything so much worse. It's why now with my carless life, the first change I made was getting a job that isn't so gd far away to begin with. Working 16 miles away from your home is a decision only a car driver would make, because it's completely impractical with any other mode of transportation. I am sure most people will come around to a simplified, community-centered, carless life, simply because cars, and the infrastructure facilitating them, isn't sustainable in any way. I don't think it's going to be a choice in the long term, and I think it's time more people started looking for alternatives before the universe forces those alternatives on you.

    • @FinalMeep
      @FinalMeep Місяць тому +1

      @@zenleeparadise People have been stressing all those positives from ditching the car that you described for a long time, but this is just one of those things that unless you experience it yourself (usually: are forced to for some reason), you tend to not believe it or want to try it for yourself. Now I'm someone who doesn't even have a driver's license (too expensive back then, but also never lived anywhere I'd have needed a car), so I can't speak much to the "change" part of the equation. But you, knowing both sides to this: what would it have taken back then to convince you to give up the car (at least sometimes), when it was still a choice you had? As in, how do you think we should approach people wo DO have a choice today, to get them to at least consider it?

    • @zenleeparadise
      @zenleeparadise Місяць тому +2

      @@FinalMeep well, first off when trying to convince people of things like this, it's important to understand that most people are not "stressing" those positives of not driving to others. Most people in places like my city never hear a single argument against cars, and would find the notion that anyone is against them entirely bizarre. Just because you and maybe your social circle who likely all live in the same city as you and don't need cars either have all heard these arguments, doesn't mean people in the places where this is a problem actually ever hear these things stressed. Places where most people feel they "need" a car (Phoenix, LA, Albuquerque, etc. the list is honestly endless in the USA) most people could go their entire lives without ever meeting someone that's actually openly against cars. Discussions like these are not a normal part of most people's lives. Most people don't know anyone that doesn't drive as a choice - and while my decision wasn't necessarily a choice, I've always had someone very close to me who opted out of driving from the jump, and him being an example to me definitely went a long way in me not panicking about not being able to drive right now. There is an old version of myself that would have been determined to get this pos car of mine fixed (I do still own a car it just doesn't work) as if my life depends on it, so to some extent, me embracing this lifestyle IS a choice. Most people in Phoenix wouldn't even see fixing this car or replacing it as an option, it's just a given to them, to the point where most people in my city, in my position, would've gone out and gotten a car payment they can't afford before resigning themselves to walking and using public transportation. It's not remotely normalized to the degree which the beginning of your comment suggests. So, a big answer to your question is basically that people of like mind to us need to be the change they want to see in the world, and need to be vocal about it. There are, of course, other issues contributing to this, though. I really do think that the demonization of public transportation in places like this plays a huge part in why most people would never consider giving up their cars, and I think it's important for people to know that even in a place with some of the "worst" public transportation infrastructure, the bus is pretty consistent, and as long as you plan for potential delays (which you should be doing when you're driving, too, frankly - the amount of times I'd be early to work after cycling 16 miles to get there and my boss would be late despite driving there and having like a 10 minute commute was eye-opening to me), there really is no downside to the bus. I think it's important to emphasize to people that cars are money pits, and they are keeping you poor. I hear a LOT of whining from people my age and younger about how "third places are too expensive", "having a social life is too expensive", and I really do think that it's important to show people that there are potentially hundreds of dollars a month that they've been convinced to fork over for their car as if it is a necessity when it is, in fact, NOT. I told a coworker of mine that the shoes I wear to work/during my carless commute to work cost me $140, and she found it unbelievable that I'd ever spend that much money on a pair of shoes (I'm sure past me would've also found it unthinkable) - the most important piece of clothing one can possibly invest in for their own health and comfort, especially if you're on your feet all day. I told her "well, that's about what I was forking over every month in car insurance when I was driving" and I could see the gears in her head turning.
      If you combine those shoes (which I'm sure will last me years, but let's pretend they only last a year) with a month long bus pass every month of the year, that's a whopping ~$72 a month I spend on my commute. When comparing this against a car, it's genuinely astounding to me how much of my money has been freed up. And on top of that, having to think more strategically about running errands makes you save money in and of itself, too, because you're not going to be buying crap you don't need if you have to lug it across town on foot. The number of ways in which not driving saves you money is astounding. The way everyone's been completely bamboozled into chaining themselves to these cars as if it's a necessity that one's life depends on is something we have to aggressively push back against. People need to realize that it's not that we are poor, it's that we're being talked into wasting all of the money we earn on things we don't need, cars being at the tippy top of that list of things we not only don't need, but should be actively resisting against. And when you're doing all of that walking in a town like Phoenix, you start to really think "man... If we didn't need all this space for all these cars, the place I'm going probably wouldn't be so far away in the first place". And THAT is something people have to realize on their own. The de-centering of cars in our cities will just logically follow from people opting to de-center cars in their personal lives.

    • @user-br5rg6ke6s
      @user-br5rg6ke6s Місяць тому +1

      @@zenleeparadiseI’m so happy to see other Arizona residents figuring this out. I live 1.5 hours outside Phoenix and I live in what you could call the most walkable part of my town and if you look on a map there’s a lot more roads and parking lot space between the homes and businesses than there is space taken up by the actual homes and businesses. This is a state that consumes so much space for vehicles which enforces that everyone requires a vehicle and there’s so many realistic public options that would work for us since there’s still plenty of land to develop and of course roads that can be undeveloped to accommodate the transition pretty easily.

  • @Rastaferrari829
    @Rastaferrari829 Місяць тому +9

    Capitalists are very short-sighted. They’re too focused on profit at any costs.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Місяць тому +1

      In the long term, we'll all be dead. So sayeth Keynes. Well, he meant it as a call to action in the now to not wait for the long term to fix this, but I guess they interpreted it to mean that they shouldn't worry about the consequences because they'll be too dead to care.

    • @ciro_costa
      @ciro_costa Місяць тому +4

      It's not an individual moral failing of the capitalists of being short sighted.
      The very logic of the system demands eternal growth.

    • @Tahoza
      @Tahoza 4 дні тому

      @@ciro_costa To participate in that system is what is immoral. To act without regard to the consequences is ultimately still the responsibility of the actor.

    • @ciro_costa
      @ciro_costa 4 дні тому

      @@Tahoza what solution does your view yield? Pray upon a star that one day all billionaires will be kind gentle people that will forfeit their profits in order to help people?
      Your view is useless because it doesn't result in a solution.
      When you see the system as the problem, you can understand how it works and work to dismantle it.

    • @Tahoza
      @Tahoza 4 дні тому

      ​@@ciro_costa So are you arguing that holding people accountable is useless and that those who abuse the system are simply products of their surroundings?
      You're oddly antagonistic for someone who, if I had to guess, seems to think things should change.
      Pray tell, then, how one should go about changing the system without changing the motivations and behaviors of individuals?
      And I guess to answer what was probably a rhetorical question, my comment did not offer a solution. My views, as useless as you may claim them to be, might provide an impetus from which to effect change, though.
      Unless you happen to be one of those people I was suggesting be held accountable for their actions that is. If that's the case, I can see how you would like to absolve yourself of any responsibility and might have been insulted by my remark.

  • @dizguy24
    @dizguy24 Місяць тому +27

    The choice is already made, society just hasn't accepted it.

    • @JerehmiaBoaz
      @JerehmiaBoaz Місяць тому +8

      Don't get me wrong, what I'm trying to say is if we don't stop capitalism by doing something about our governments (who chose for the corporations and against us) we aren't just going to destroy the environment but also fight needless wars that'll probably escalate into a world war.

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 Місяць тому +3

      @@JerehmiaBoaz They ARE escalating.

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 Місяць тому +1

      @@JerehmiaBoaz 1942 Quote from #Orwell: "Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist, this is elementary common sense"

    • @JerehmiaBoaz
      @JerehmiaBoaz Місяць тому +3

      @@a.randomjack6661 I'm not talking about the war in Ukraine and Palestine, I'm talking about the wars for the last resources we're going to fight against upcoming economies like China, and about the wars we're going to fight against the third world to keep the climate refugees from leaving the tropics and entering our countries. We're at least as shady as the countries we're going to fight to maintain our wealth and prosperity.

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 Місяць тому

      @@JerehmiaBoaz Humans have always migrated as do many animals.
      If it wasn't for "illegal migrants' if you want to call them that, we'd have much less food in our groceries.
      There's only one planet Earth. If everyone would live as the average Northern American, we would need 4 Earths.
      We already use more than one, see Earth overshoot day.
      All wars are for ressources/enrichment.
      Short conclusion, both will die. I mean go extinct.

  • @IronIsInk
    @IronIsInk Місяць тому +5

    I did one of these things I’ve got elected to local office then I had my policy completely destroyed by a group of liberals working on behalf of Conservatives.

    • @egggge4752
      @egggge4752 Місяць тому +2

      Liberals are per definition conservative btw. If your country is founded on the ideas of enlightenment (king bad, capitalism good), its founding principles are liberal. And since thats like 300-200 years ago that makes conservatism and liberalism the same.

  • @rubenp8320
    @rubenp8320 Місяць тому +6

    I had a medical discharge, 100% and all that since I was 28.
    I picked up art, I work out more, I apply at jobs I wanna do, and the biggest thing was…..
    Put a 100% of my work focus into therapy and getting through group meetings weekly. So mentally, I feel so much better.
    So you’re right, slow down a little. Just cause The world sucks, don’t mean it has to.

  • @ashram12
    @ashram12 Місяць тому +4

    The "problem" with Santo's idea, is that consumerism relieves our day-to-day existential dread. I've recently fallen into a consumerist trap where I buy stuff I don't really need, because getting new products momentarily provides excitement and happiness. Relieving existential dread through any other means (like pursuing a hobby) takes a lot more effort. So all I'm saying is that shifting away from a consumerist society is going to be very difficult, not just because the companies want consumers, but because many consumers want to stay consumers.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Місяць тому +1

      I'd suggest reading his books. He goes beyond saying consumers should stay away from consumerism. He, instead, proposes systemic changes.

  • @DanteGabriel-lx9bq
    @DanteGabriel-lx9bq Місяць тому +4

    I hear it all the time that if people took colder showers and used more bikes instead of cars, they would magically solve the problem. The fact is, there are those who believe it and really try it. It's a drop of water in the ocean, really, we need more drastic changes. I work in the chemical industry, and I'm feeling the weight of capital over my shoulders all the time. Things gotta change.

  • @pennywaldrip3774
    @pennywaldrip3774 Місяць тому +48

    But But But I MADE my reuseable shopping bags. Isn't that better than buying?

    • @vulcanfeline
      @vulcanfeline Місяць тому +7

      i'm still re-using "single use" grocery bags. lots left still :)

  • @Tamajyn69
    @Tamajyn69 Місяць тому +26

    It's hard not to feel it's hopeless. We're living in an idiocracy and the majority of voters are too stupid to know to vote in their best interests. The turkeys are voting for christmas and we're trapped along for the ride. There's literally nothing we can do but watch the world burn while corporations just get away with it and people continue to vote for politicians who don't care.

    • @Katzenkaiser4
      @Katzenkaiser4 Місяць тому +3

      we have a saying in my country - the lambs chose their butcher themselves

    • @BestgirlJordanfish
      @BestgirlJordanfish Місяць тому +2

      @@Tamajyn69 god fuck you're so real for this. It's miserable

    • @davidchristenes9062
      @davidchristenes9062 Місяць тому

      If you think that vote was what made progress in this world them you do have a wrong view of our history.
      We got 8 hours by force, with VIOLENCE and spitting blood, that is the truth. The day used internationally as "workers day" is not a reminder of a peaceful day, it was the day USA cops SHOT workers in protest in the peak of USA industrialization process.
      Kids didnt stop going to the industry because people voted either, it was again done with popular organization and force.
      We do not live in a true democracy, we live in liberal democracies and those systems will NEVER let any different result, not directly controlling each vote by hand, but just defining the rules of the game.
      Take USA for example, how the hell a normal citizen will be able to win a presidential election when, first, there are just two parties(which are the same for us outside USA since they both invade the world) and second nomines usually have MILLIONS of dollars, really poweful friends and much more screen time than ANY worker??
      The game is not made for us to win, and that is why we never won and never will.
      Liberal democracies will never have a trully reformist in power because it is the same as wishing to have a king putting a liberal as it's heir, it is a sign of revolution/end of a "time", not a function of the system.

  • @Idonotwantahandle1
    @Idonotwantahandle1 Місяць тому +3

    “...The problem isn't the chain of command, the problem is the chain of obedience.”
    -StormCloudsGathering
    We've all heard of the chain of command. Usually people think of the term in the context of the military, corporate and government power structures, but in reality, all of modern society is implicated. The chain of command sounds powerful, and it imbues the officers, bureaucrats, and petty dictators of the world with a sense importance and rank.

    But the term is deceptive, and hiding behind it is an open secret, hiding in plain sight.

    Power does not flow from the person who administers orders. A command is inconsequential if it is ignored or laughed at.
    Obedience is the real foundation of misplaced power.
    It is in fact the chain of obedience... not the chain of command… the cumulative force of a cowardly and compliant citizenry which allows evil men to take control.

    Can you imagine how Napoleon Bonaparte would be treated today if he arrived in Times Square New York and attempted to order a man put to death? Chances are he would end up heavily medicated in a padded room by the end of the day, but for a few minutes people would probably have a good laugh, and rightly so.

    Separated from those who have been trained to obey them, even the most bloody heads of state are hardly more dangerous than pick pocket or mugger.

    It may be true that we have a demented pack of inbred maniacs running the world right now, but they aren't the ones that I fear. I fear the conditioned masses which will put me to death at the drop of a hat if the right order is given. I fear the herd of well meaning idiots which believe that written law and authority is to be followed at all cost... even at the expense of self-evident morality.
    The death squads and concentration camps of history were never staffed by rebels and dissidents. They were were run by those who followed the rules.
    The problem isn't the chain of command, the problem is the chain of obedience.
    -StormCloudsGathering
    Abstract concepts:
    [0] “ The maxim of the old policies was: Divide and Conquer. It has been partly replaced by the new rule: Lend them money to keep your foot on their necks. … “
    - Eugène-Melchior de Vogüé, “Livres Jaunes” in Le Figaro, 2 May 1898.
    [1 ] Mega corp.s and similar entities are organic. A plant that senses its demise, will trigger mechanisms to accelerate the fulfilment of its purpose.
    [2] A "standard issue high school" bully will take away one's lunch for as long as one does not stand up to them.
    [3a] > = Eco- (ecos = domicile/HOME) + Nomy (nemo/nemomai = the RIGHT TO and/or MANAGE)
    Definition: the managing of available resources
    Perception: Important People
    > = Eco- (ecos = domicile/HOME) + Logy (logia = the STUDY OF)
    Definition: the study of the relationship between living things and their environment
    Public perception: Annoying Hippies
    [3b] > = Astro- (Astron = Star) + Nomy (nemo/nemomai = the RIGHT TO and/or MANAGE)
    Definition: the scientific study of the universe and of objects that exist naturally in space, such as the moon, the sun, planets, and stars
    Perception: Irrelevant Geeks
    > = Astro- (Astron = Star) + Logy (logia = the STUDY OF)
    Definition: the study of the movements and positions of the sun, moon, planets, and stars in the belief that they affect the character and lives of people
    Perception: Confused Loonies
    [4] Time
    Definition: the indefinite continued progress of existence and events in the past, present, and future regarded as a whole.
    [5] Earth
    Definition: the planet third in order of distance from the sun, between Venus and Mars; the world on which we live

  • @Jormungrandrserpent
    @Jormungrandrserpent Місяць тому +3

    Greenpeace and Eco-Terrorism should not look so attractive as a solution, we should be able to maneuver this debacle diplomatically, but the truth is Corporations and Capitalists just don't fight fair. The common good and my desire to see the people's will done gets crapped all over by corporations basically forcing their ideas in everyone's face. I want to fight back, but I wish the bad solutions didn't look so attractive.

  • @TomisaLami
    @TomisaLami Місяць тому +13

    The CEOs have addresses

  • @sandhillfarmer1
    @sandhillfarmer1 Місяць тому +5

    Land use policy and practice is a sneaky big obstacle to degrowth. Most land is either zoned for or already purchased for maximum economic output to the owner. A certain effect of this is that there is good farmland within reasonable food-mile distance to cities that’s completely unaffordable by farmers looking to build climate-forward farms due to long-term real estate speculators buying it up for insane prices in hopes the path of suburban growth will reach out that far. Farms are therefore forced even further away from population centers and thus even more tied to highly intensive methods than they would already be naturally predisposed.
    Unfortunately, real estate speculators hold lots of sway over policy, and creative, thoughtful people that want to build cool farms have very little. So we’re kinda stuck with a capitalist’s wet dream of an agricultural system as long as that’s the case.

    • @dereksnyder_4244
      @dereksnyder_4244 18 днів тому

      I’ve thought about this a lot, and I believe you’re dead on. Land use and land access are massive obstacles to climate progress under capitalism. A populous that can’t feed itself is forced to participate in the destruction.

  • @KevinBauman
    @KevinBauman Місяць тому +12

    Degrowth sounds like something we can choose, or have forced upon us. My money is on having it forced upon us. We're going to party until the end.

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому +8

      There's a very particular "we" here, and it's the people who can afford the apocalypse bunkers.

    • @KevinBauman
      @KevinBauman Місяць тому

      @@triangleunderstander I meant "we", as in the seemingly unfazed majority

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому +1

      ​@@KevinBauman it's hard to "party" meaningfully when rent is a monthly finance problem.

    • @KevinBauman
      @KevinBauman Місяць тому

      @@triangleunderstander you obviously aren't seeing the typical American with credit catds

    • @triangleunderstander
      @triangleunderstander Місяць тому +1

      ​@@KevinBauman when wages fail to keep with the inflation of consumer goods, ready credit obviously becomes appealing as a quick (and perhaps sole available) remedy. to act like consumption has ballooned, per capita, in real physical terms is more of a mirage than anything.

  • @ryanfitzgerald9833
    @ryanfitzgerald9833 Місяць тому +16

    The problem is we are close to the end and even as a mechanic... I'm not in the mood to keep pushing my luck on this.

  • @dcbaars
    @dcbaars Місяць тому +3

    Summary of the American candidates summed up: “I heard the one guy yelling and the other guy mumbling”😂😂😂
    Even though Biden resigned it still hits

  • @michealdahomie2057
    @michealdahomie2057 Місяць тому +3

    Getting rid of capitalism is the right idea. But gradual reform is not going to get us there. Reforms should be pursued when convenient, but it shouldn't be the sole avenue for change.
    As long as the ruling class is still at the clutches of power, reforms can always be taken away. History has taught us that only surefire way to ensure that change remains permanent is revolution. And we need one fast because at the rate the climate crisis is going, gradual reform is not going to save us in time.

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle Місяць тому +5

    Another banger.
    How this channels comment section doesn't turn into a communal trauma dump is testament to us all holding it together just enough to make dark jokes to give a smile to others.

  • @notelliot70
    @notelliot70 Місяць тому +5

    Describing Feinstein as a progressive liberal is kinda hilarious

    • @keatonheadley6065
      @keatonheadley6065 Місяць тому

      Helped sell out the water in California to the billionaire Resnick family whose massive agricultural productions equal upwards of 4 San Francisco’s…….. progressive maybe in the 80s… all she stands for now is the forever stagnating and disconnected Democratic Party. The Ratchet Effect is very real.

  • @gljames24
    @gljames24 Місяць тому +3

    I prefer Proudhon. Mutualist use of consumer worker cooperatives is a much better systems as it respects the locality of the individual stakeholders, but also prevents the exploitation of said stakeholders.

  • @Niclas-ui1fh
    @Niclas-ui1fh 13 днів тому +2

    “Violence solves everything” - said the time traveler in Gladiator

  • @johncharlton199
    @johncharlton199 Місяць тому +2

    Only when the last fish is caught; the last metal is drawn from the earth and the last tree is cut down, money cannot be eaten.

  • @namenamenamename7224
    @namenamenamename7224 Місяць тому +10

    This title has monster truck rally commercial energy. Love it.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Місяць тому +3

      Honestly what we were going for

  • @LLachs283
    @LLachs283 Місяць тому +3

    It makes zero sense that infrastructure like water, energy and nessecary needs like food and housing are in private hands. The promised market mechanisms can not work with these things, its impossible. So these should not be on a market.

  • @SinHurr
    @SinHurr Місяць тому +10

    Weird how fragile billionaire necks are.

  • @alexandrecolautoneto7374
    @alexandrecolautoneto7374 Місяць тому +2

    We work more nowadays in a year than the average pesant on the feudalism. Even with all the technological advances, they never promised that we would work less. By the opposite, we never worked so much before (check Uber drivers shift).
    The only moment where the working hours really decreased was on the so feared Soviet union. And by now you should realize why the C world is so feared.

  • @89technical
    @89technical Місяць тому +6

    Let's not forget, programs like The Simpsons spent decades bashing things like Nuclear power to the point people not only see it as dangerous and expensive but as a joke when it's one of the greenest energies we have access to and more reliable than either fossil fuels or the other alternatives.

  • @autive42
    @autive42 Місяць тому +3

    "Ecology without class struggle is gardening" -Chico Mendez

  • @irishboy0909
    @irishboy0909 Місяць тому +5

    Remember Thug Notes?
    Those were good times

  • @notyouraverageaustrian
    @notyouraverageaustrian Місяць тому +7

    good video. i agree mostly but remind me why rosa luxemburg was killed.

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 Місяць тому

      Because it was politically convenient, a fucking Lenin style revolution in Germany would have been a complete disaster. They got their wish with the DDR anyway, and just look how oppressive and backwards that country was! They imprisoned the Greens!

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Місяць тому +1

      @@aturchomicz821 the GDR was stalinist... and thats a form of faschism. heck if you want proof: the party from the book 1984 is based on stalinism.

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Irobert1115HDOf fucking course. "lIteRallY 1984"

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Місяць тому

      @@abas656thegodemperor9 it is confimred that ingsoc is in fact based on stalinism.

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Місяць тому +1

      @@Irobert1115HD Okay great. I didnt fucking ask.

  • @BlindintheDark
    @BlindintheDark Місяць тому +2

    We'll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost-effective." -Vonnegut

    • @aaroncabatingan5238
      @aaroncabatingan5238 Місяць тому +1

      No, we'll go down in history as the only species that went extinct because the people who wants to save our species, wants to tie their efforts to a dead ideology.
      Communism has already failed. Lets do something else with our time.

    • @handsfortoothpicks
      @handsfortoothpicks Місяць тому

      @@aaroncabatingan5238 how has communism failed?

  • @aldabraika1836
    @aldabraika1836 Місяць тому +1

    The problem with degrowth isn't that it's not a solution, it's that the capitalist ruling class simply won't allow it to happen. None of the suggestions in this video or the yellow dot one are implementable without a potentially violent overthrow of the current system, which negates the entire reform part of the argument. It's not that capitalism can't be "reformed" into something better, but that reform can only happen after a revolution is already achieved. Only once a party for the working class has taken state power, a proletarian dictatorship, can we actually expect environment-protecting politics that reverse global climate change

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Місяць тому +13

    You guys are spoiling us! Live and video?! Thanks 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

  • @Volp24k
    @Volp24k Місяць тому +3

    Lets be specific, who are those 50 companies and its ceos?

    • @Volp24k
      @Volp24k Місяць тому

      MBS - Saudi aramco Darren Woods - Exxon

  • @josdesouza
    @josdesouza Місяць тому +10

    The Earth.

  • @nathanbonilla7440
    @nathanbonilla7440 Місяць тому +2

    Im 21 now but when im 25 ill be running for local representative in my district

  • @Nethershaw
    @Nethershaw Місяць тому +2

    Please. The USA is so toxic now, I can't survive with my PTSD. I need to get out of this country. Please help; tell me where it's safe to go. Please.

    • @VivaLaAntifa3
      @VivaLaAntifa3 Місяць тому

      I really don’t know but I think that some of the Scandinavian countries are less “toxic” at least when you mean it from a political perspective. They have been catching up a bit with islamophobia and stuff as well and obviously have the same flaws as other western countries but they are a bit further from being fascists than others

  • @mmmhorsesteaks
    @mmmhorsesteaks Місяць тому +3

    I agree with degrowth basically, but the big question is why. Why would the owners do this? Will we seize the means of production? Penalize them if they disagree? Why wouldn't they take the whole kit and kaboodle and plop it down in another country less inclined to hassle them? After all, capital is mobile but labor much less so.

  • @TheyCallHimTheTops
    @TheyCallHimTheTops Місяць тому +3

    Degrowth Communism is necessary

  • @Themehsofproduction
    @Themehsofproduction Місяць тому +6

    SAVE US DADDY MARX

    • @czeckwarrior2230
      @czeckwarrior2230 Місяць тому

      Thats probably what his children said while he lazed around spending his friends money on luxuries and didnt bathe.

    • @Themehsofproduction
      @Themehsofproduction Місяць тому

      @@czeckwarrior2230 he was so dedicated to the movement he had no time to take a shower

  • @charlievish2930
    @charlievish2930 Місяць тому +1

    You should check out Yanis Varoufakis. He's an economist and philosopher. He argues that Capitalism is already dead. We're fighting a corpse. He asserts that we are living under Technofeudalism, something I would say is the logical end point to all of this.
    Capitalism was born from Feudalism. So it makes sense that its final form is a mirror of the parent system.

  • @patricialongo5870
    @patricialongo5870 Місяць тому +1

    Americans are perfect for this Job. They told me as a child that we arose from colonies and never once cared to point out that colonization is genocidal or wrong.

  • @TallTaleGael
    @TallTaleGael Місяць тому +12

    Just be honest we can't do anything. Nothing will change. I've been alive for 30 years. The only chsnge is things have gotten steadily worse my entire life.

    • @DharmaPunk111
      @DharmaPunk111 Місяць тому

      Things will change whether we want them to or not because environmental collapse is going to happen in less than 10 years and it will force us to do something

    • @SubjectiveObserver
      @SubjectiveObserver Місяць тому +1

      You haven't been alive that long. You don't know what's gonna happen next.

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Місяць тому +3

      Organize. Inspire, Unionize, Down with the oligarchy, Down with capitalism

    • @MULTIMAN-MUSIC
      @MULTIMAN-MUSIC Місяць тому

      Sounds like an excuse to keep being lazy and feel ok by doing nothing…
      I’ve been alive for 40+ years, moved to the mountains at your age and changed my life and way of seeing things, I have also learned languages and traveled to not be no too narrow minded.

    • @DharmaPunk111
      @DharmaPunk111 Місяць тому

      @MULTIMAN-MUSIC those are things you need money to do. Young people don't have nearly as many opportunities as older folks and we are being told most places on the planet will be unlivable in 10 years

  • @AnonymousAnarchist2
    @AnonymousAnarchist2 Місяць тому +6

    that is a heck of a cold open.

  • @jk_lol9266
    @jk_lol9266 Місяць тому +35

    Capitalists Speedrun Ecological Annihilation - Difficulty: Likely.

  • @TomPortegys
    @TomPortegys Місяць тому +2

    There was an episode of Star Trek where a 20th century capitalist was thawed out wherein he immediately began trying to corner the market on some commodity, boggling everyone's mind. Does abundance cure greed?

  • @morgainebarkefors9806
    @morgainebarkefors9806 Місяць тому +1

    I'm sure that the fossil fuel industry has one of the objectively best chances to lay the groundwork for a more sustainable tomorrow. The issue is that they don't care for it, as their primary goal remains to maximize short term revenue.