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  • @noratheelk3729
    @noratheelk3729  Рік тому +107

    This video is not intended to mock or insult Leonard Nimoy, Gene Rodenberry, or anyone else involved in Star Trek.
    My goal was ONLY to show bits from the two pilots that made me laugh. I know on an intellectual level that Nimoy was still developing the character, I still think the way Spock is portrayed in the pilots is funny.

    • @joeschembrie9450
      @joeschembrie9450 Рік тому +14

      Exactly, Star Trek didn't burst onto the world fully-formed. It took a while to evolve. Some people focus on that gradual process as flawed, but often it's really how things really happen in the world if they're going to happen at all.

    • @snorkchop8134
      @snorkchop8134 Рік тому +11

      That song when Spock lost at chess made me laugh so hard 😂

    • @andercert70
      @andercert70 Рік тому +8

      I suspect one of the better notes from the Network (or someone) was to ditch the shouting that I think must have been part of Gene relating it to his Navel experience. But there's no need to shout on a relatively quiet spaceship. :)

    • @itubeutubewealltube1
      @itubeutubewealltube1 Рік тому +6

      to be fair, the original episode was set about a decade before the time of the Kirk crew, they kind of explained spocks appearance/personality this way in the menagerie episode.. he was young and not fully in control of his emotions yet.

    • @grantcarpenter6685
      @grantcarpenter6685 Рік тому +4

      My understanding was that in those two pilot episodes, Nimoy wanted to portray Spock as a Vulcan who learnt English through listening to old BBC radio reports and learnt his first-officer mannerisms from British naval first officers.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott Рік тому +130

    I always laugh at his shocked "THE WOMEN!" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @hypnometal
      @hypnometal Рік тому +9

      For the longest time as a kid, I thought he shouted "No, wait a minute!" I don't think I can unhear that now.

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 Рік тому +2

      He'd probably get in trouble for saying that nowadays.

    • @travis8850
      @travis8850 Рік тому

      @@virginiaconnor8350 I doubt that lol. The military is well-known for it's crude vocabulary. And any heterosexual man stuck on a ship for an extended journey would be absolutely distraught if they woke up and found the ship to be a giant sausage party. Lol.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому +9

      @@virginiaconnor8350 Not really. It's part of the plot that it's specifically the women.
      My favourite part is when captain Pike says he can't get used to a woman on the bridge, and immediately gets into trouble for that remark.

    • @JanetStarChild
      @JanetStarChild Рік тому +6

      @@virginiaconnor8350
      You have to admit, it's a bizarre specification just because the two happen to be women. It's like, what if the two where black? Would Spock yell _"The NEGROS!"_ ? ...Just as strange to yell out, and either would be valid criticism.

  • @robboyte1101
    @robboyte1101 Рік тому +103

    I believe Spock's yelling like that in "Where No Man..." because the director told Nimoy to act like he was on an actual seagoing vessel. Shouting was the best way to make sure you were heard over the wind. It's not necessary for indoors, but the custom of repeating orders back (again, because of wind) is still used in today's navy.

    • @johnruschmeyer5769
      @johnruschmeyer5769 Рік тому +10

      The absurdity of the shouting is really apparent in the clip from "The Cage" where the power goes out, considering that the "Engine Room" is several decks away. Was there a speaking tube on the Bridge back then?

    • @robboyte1101
      @robboyte1101 Рік тому +11

      @@johnruschmeyer5769 Again, I think it was to make it look like they were on a "ship", where they shout at each other all the time. It was important to Roddenberry, a former Navy man, to convey that feeling to the suits reviewing the pilot.

    • @wiseguymaybe
      @wiseguymaybe Рік тому +6

      Most illogical

    • @travis8850
      @travis8850 Рік тому +4

      @@robboyte1101 You are very likely correct. Most shows tape at least two pilots. One for the network executives, and the other for the audience. The first pilot is often very different from the finished product, created with a very tiny budget, and is used a convincing device to get the network to pick up the show. Once that happens and they receive their full budget, the team gets to work re-shooting the pilot, doing re-castings as needed, and polishing up the details.

    • @ziraprod6090
      @ziraprod6090 Рік тому +3

      That's "wessel".

  • @johnruschmeyer5769
    @johnruschmeyer5769 Рік тому +54

    There's a line in "The Corbomite Maneuver" that lampshades the shouting. Spock is sitting in the Captain's chair and tells Bailey that there is no need to shout.

    • @aaacomp1
      @aaacomp1 Рік тому +2

      I think you meant lampoons, not lampshades.

  • @danielliut1598
    @danielliut1598 Рік тому +4

    I always saw this as a not yet fully matured, but very realistic half-human younger Spock.

  • @joeschembrie9450
    @joeschembrie9450 Рік тому +19

    "One of my ancestors married a human female." Are you talking about your FATHER, Spock? This puts almost the same emotional distance between Spock and Sarek as Luke and Darth.

    • @noratheelk3729
      @noratheelk3729  Рік тому +10

      Hahaha imagine if Luke was like “one of my ancestors was a sith”

    • @danthemankhan
      @danthemankhan Рік тому +2

      I always use overly-formal language when speaking, it does help to create emotional insulation from others.

    • @timewarpdrive77
      @timewarpdrive77 Рік тому

      You cannot say that about luke and darth

    • @davidjames468
      @davidjames468 Рік тому +1

      Well, they weren't talking with each other at the time.

    • @AgentMulder120
      @AgentMulder120 5 місяців тому

      as someone whos only now getting into star trek and watching everything in release order including the pilots, that line left me confused for several episodes cus i thought he was only a tiny bit part human, only to then listen to him talk about his earth human mother lol

  • @HellhammerSS
    @HellhammerSS Рік тому +21

    Him limping was,like the navigator having a bandaged hand, due to them having recently been in a fight on the planet from the first illusion.

    • @wadebarnett2542
      @wadebarnett2542 Рік тому +3

      I've also read that on Talos, Spock fell off of a hill, but that scene was edited out of the final pilot.

    • @AlanSmitheeman
      @AlanSmitheeman Рік тому

      @@wadebarnett2542 Yeah, something about a landslide. I thought that it was filmed but never released as an outtake.

    • @JeffKeller0529
      @JeffKeller0529 Рік тому +2

      Yes, Spock was among the crewmembers, mentioned by Pike to Dr. Boyce, who was injured on Rigel VII.

  • @jalRVA
    @jalRVA Рік тому +5

    I’ve had that “DEFLECTORS, FULL INTENSITY!” line burned into my brain for forty years 😂

  • @dexterpoindexter3583
    @dexterpoindexter3583 Рік тому +3

    Spock in the second half is eerily channeling the Riker to come.
    And your caption tells him to "calm down"? That's what Number Ones DO! 😄

  • @kenmercer8112
    @kenmercer8112 Рік тому +40

    Awesome. I like how these early episodes (like Star Wars) mixed up their propulsion methods. Hyper drive, Warp, and rockets!

    • @johnruschmeyer5769
      @johnruschmeyer5769 Рік тому +5

      I had forgotten about the rockets. No wonder there were early tie-in products that showed flames from the nacelles.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому +4

      "Ahead warp factor one."
      "Aye-aye sir, full Impulse."

    • @SniffHeinkel
      @SniffHeinkel Рік тому +4

      "Switch to rockets. We're blasting out."
      The Enterprise, um, isn't outfitted with rockets.

    • @johnruschmeyer5769
      @johnruschmeyer5769 Рік тому +2

      @@SniffHeinkel I think that "rockets" were an obsolete for what newer Trek would refer to as "thrusters". Though I don't know if they would have enough motive force to break orbit.

    • @whiskeyvictor5703
      @whiskeyvictor5703 Рік тому +4

      Hamster Drive...ENGAGE!!!

  • @Paul_Wetor
    @Paul_Wetor Рік тому +31

    They got quite a few things "wrong" in the pilots, which allowed the actual series to be so much better (viewing screen - bigger and square; "desk lamps" on consoles - gone). Merging Spock (alien) with Number One (unemotional) made Mr. Spock a standout character. The original Spock was just a weird-looking guy. And yes, getting the angle of the eyebrows makes a world of difference.

    • @fredWaxBeans11111
      @fredWaxBeans11111 Рік тому +3

      Desk lamps lol. Agreed, although they were rather groovy

    • @anorthosite
      @anorthosite Рік тому +3

      They originally wanted to make Spock a "Martian". But the red make-up wouldn't work with the camera tech of that time. Plus, it would have made him look (even more) "satanic". XO

    • @troyarmatti7167
      @troyarmatti7167 Рік тому +1

      @@anorthosite I did not know Martians were red. LOL.

    • @TheProfessor230
      @TheProfessor230 Рік тому

      ​@@troyarmatti7167red planet, so red inhabitants too

  • @lordmikethegreat
    @lordmikethegreat Рік тому +14

    I love the shouting Spock! He is an inspiration to me!

  • @valkyrie2922
    @valkyrie2922 Рік тому +19

    It would seem that somehow Kirk had a calming influence on him

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe Рік тому +37

    I always remembered his bizarre behavior in the early episodes and his smiling. Clearly they were evolving the character. Notice how he says one of his ancestors married a human female? Do you regard your father as an ancestor? I guess technically…

    • @hubbsllc
      @hubbsllc Рік тому +7

      There is a scene in “Where No Man…” where the Spock onscreen clearly takes on the affect of the Spock we all know. But the rest of the time, he’s more of a snarkmeister.

    • @magiksmoothy
      @magiksmoothy Рік тому +4

      I like to think of it as him not being open to talk about his immediate family, but yeah that's what happened 😂

    • @MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
      @MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage Рік тому +2

      Yeah, but that plot line didn't come about until the second season. ...and maybe Spock's Dad wasn't the first either!

  • @michaelsalmon9832
    @michaelsalmon9832 Рік тому +4

    I think Spock is yelling because he’s treating it like he’s on a ship in the navy where everybody yells commands and positioning and everything all the time

  • @salerio4876
    @salerio4876 Рік тому +8

    Spock's acting style and loud voice here is exactly like the one that Lesley Nielsen used as the commander of the starship in the earlier classic 1956 movie "Forbidden Planet." Gene Roddenberry also copied many other ideas and special effects from that movie in "Star Trek."

  • @NemoVir
    @NemoVir Рік тому +1

    Like he’s on a wooden ship in a storm, yelling to be heard.

  • @dekelanson5280
    @dekelanson5280 Рік тому +4

    It's fascinating to see how Spock evolved and became calmer and more logical.

  • @enigmaticallyso
    @enigmaticallyso Рік тому +3

    You can really hear Nimoy's Bostonian accent in the pilot. Later he worked to not let it show so much. That's why he exaggerated his pronunciation of "sensors."

  • @rcprevite8501
    @rcprevite8501 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the video. Spock's random limping is because (implied) he was one of the injured crew on the previous mission (Rigel ?) where they fought the Viking dude at the fortress. LLAP

  • @bleirdo_dude
    @bleirdo_dude Рік тому +10

    I heard a long time ago (have not heard it since) that the science officer was going to be from Mars, and had an openable chamber in his stomach/chest area to place food in.
    What a disaster that would have been if true, and the idea used.

  • @DuncanRossCameron
    @DuncanRossCameron Рік тому +2

    The way Nimoy says cens-OR and react-OR is iconic to me. I think Ethan Peck should do this.

  • @Mr.Robert1
    @Mr.Robert1 Рік тому +1

    MEN IN THE ENGINE ROOM SHOVING COAL !
    MORE COAL SCOTTY ! AYE AYE CAPTAIN !

  • @benvolio15
    @benvolio15 Рік тому +27

    At the time the pilots were made, Star Trek was struggling to get off the ground in all sorts of ways, especially after "The Cage" was initially rejected by NBC. Leonard Nimoy was technically still figuring out how to develop Spock as a character, and while there are signs of what will eventually become the Spock persona we all know and love, he's not a "real" Vulcan yet, hence the occasional smiling and shouting.

    • @noratheelk3729
      @noratheelk3729  Рік тому +13

      I know, and I understand that, I just think there’s humor in a stark contrast in behavior 😂

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 Рік тому +2

      It can take a while to develop a chr. Quite often, the actor helps!

    • @et76039
      @et76039 Рік тому +4

      He had not yet done the Koh-li-nar, and so still had some emotions to suppress.

    • @jkleylein
      @jkleylein Рік тому +7

      @@noratheelk3729 When the Network demanded changes Roddenberry decided to drop the Number One character and give her cool and emotionless characteristics to the Spock character, hence the change in Nimoy's approach.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому +7

      @@jkleylein He kept the alien and married the woman; doing it the other way around would have been illegal at the time.

  • @markw208
    @markw208 Рік тому +3

    Smiling Spock is fine with me, maybe preferable. In the spring of ‘75 Gene Roddenberry came to Oklahoma State campus for 1 evening in the campus theater. I was lucky enough to be there and see the presentation of the 1st pilot, The Menagerie”. No one had heard of it at that time. The entire episode, no breaks, no commercials. I was surprised to see a smiling Spock who also had some expressions on his face. As all of you are aware as the series progressed the explanation of Vulcans holding back their emotions was admitting they had them, but controlled them. That seems more plausible and admirable. It was a thrilling experience to see and hear Gene Roddenberry at a time when Star Trek had been canceled and viewable only in reruns

    • @MostlyBuicks
      @MostlyBuicks Рік тому

      The Menagerie was a two part regular season episode that incorporated the 1st pilot "The Cage" with Jeffery Hunter as Captain. The severely scarred guy in Menagerie was Christopher Pike the same character Hunter played in The Cage.

  • @bettywing52
    @bettywing52 Рік тому +9

    We're getting a chance to see other actors having the same phases adapting to Vulcan characters. I love the new Spock and Michael Burnham in their early appearances, doing the 21st Century version of series TV.

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 Рік тому +1

    These versions of Spock make him sound like he's in some WW1 warship

  • @lotstodo
    @lotstodo Рік тому

    The series was finding itself, people grow into their characters. And the characters grow too.

  • @ZombieGrandpa
    @ZombieGrandpa Рік тому +1

    Lol, what a gem. Star Trek was still being fleshed out at this point. Gene and his fellow writers had seen Navy movies and some of them served. On the bridge of a war vessel in WW2, everyone yells. There is the roar of the sea, the rush of the wind and the sound of heavy machinery. It is so loud that orders can be misunderstood hence the yelling. Add to that the sound of guns blasting- and you had to yell.
    Further, before internal ship communication went high tech, orders were screamed down a tube. The tube had a whistle on the other end that would sound as the officer or seaman on the other end blew into it. The people on the other side would hear the whistle, walk over, remove the cover and announce they were ready for the message. The Officer on the other side would then yell down the tube what the orders were. These tubes were far more reliable that any form of electronic communication at the time. (They were only replaced when the age of electronic miniaturization came about.)
    Gene and the crew wanted to give the idea of a chaotic, tense bridge when they were exploring new and dangerous space. Hence the second giving stern voiced instructions that are clear and conscience.
    Spock in the pilot had emotions, but NBC was afraid he looked too weird- so they told Gene to change him. So Gene thought, "Ok you think he is weird? Why not make him a cross between a Buddhist Monk, seeking to be an empty cup with no emotions and a computer?"
    And thus the Vulcans were born.

  • @krazyglue60
    @krazyglue60 Рік тому +2

    I love the plants that act like vibrating wind chimes. What’s interesting is that that sound effect got reused many times over the course of the series, minus the plants of course.

  • @sheeplaughsrecords
    @sheeplaughsrecords Рік тому +9

    Spock limped because he was injured (like some of the others) in the first visit to Rigel 7. Keep up!

    • @radicalross7700
      @radicalross7700 Рік тому

      When Pike initially decided to bypass Talos IV, he said: "Let's take care of our own sick and injured", or something like it.
      Spock's limp showed he was one of the injured.

  • @TommygunNG
    @TommygunNG Рік тому +1

    At the end of “ The Menagerie,” the episode utilizing video from “The Cage,” Kirk makes a passing reference to seeing Spock showing so much emotion. Interesting call-out to “hang a lantern,” as the Hollywood saying goes, on the inconsistency.

  • @charlesballaro9766
    @charlesballaro9766 Рік тому +8

    Who knew the Enterprise had a sunroof?

    • @TheHaratashi
      @TheHaratashi Рік тому +1

      It was actually a star roof.

    • @gary.h.turner
      @gary.h.turner Рік тому +1

      I think they call it a "cupola" on the ISS!

  • @huskerjpg
    @huskerjpg Рік тому

    The "Oops, I didn't think of that" thought made me laugh.

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge Рік тому

    Leonard would have laughed. Especially at the annotations. He had the best sense of humour out of all of them.

  • @johnruschmeyer5769
    @johnruschmeyer5769 Рік тому +8

    That one place where you comment on Majel's mic may be an artifact of the reconstruction of the color version of "The Cage". The B&W version had more muffled audio as was evident in the first reconstruction from before the lost clips were found.

  • @anthonynelson9136
    @anthonynelson9136 Рік тому +1

    In another life, Spock must have been a sailor in the 1700s the way he is shouting.

  • @TubenIt83
    @TubenIt83 Рік тому +1

    Hunter was restrained in his performance, so Nimoy balanced that by being more emotional. Shatner was more intense and humorous, so Nimoy countered by making Spock reserved. If everyone acts the same way, you might get lost in the mix.

  • @davidcawrowl3865
    @davidcawrowl3865 Рік тому

    His smile and emotional expression was completely logical given that he knows that relating to his fellow crew members is vital per the ship's mission and in doing so - even though he knows that smiling is irrelevant- the connection to his fellow mates is a top priority- although admittedly somewhat annoying, and in doing so (maintaining an emotional connection), the occasional smile and emotional connection does serve a logical purpose.

  • @robinday2137
    @robinday2137 Рік тому

    One of the greatest legacies of the first series was having iconic science fiction writers writing scripts for it. As usual, the scripts they wrote turned out to be the best episodes.

  • @Wizardof
    @Wizardof Рік тому +2

    Spock buzzing about up there on the Enterprise

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +3

    Majel Barret as a chief officer. That's different, too. And better than the stereotypical role the network ordered for her.

    • @noratheelk3729
      @noratheelk3729  Рік тому +1

      Majel as Number One is everything to me

    • @johnmarx3919
      @johnmarx3919 Рік тому

      The network didn't order any such thing - Roddenberry snuck her in as blonde Christine chapel! But the network was NOT fooled- they immediately recognized Majel as his mistress when they screened WALGMO!!

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

      @@johnmarx3919 If that were true, there would be no Christine Chapel.

  • @pavelsarneki354
    @pavelsarneki354 Рік тому +3

    Now you know why Mirror 🪞 Georgeou leveled those stupid singing flowers 💐😮. 🤓😎✌🏻

  • @hmshyperion
    @hmshyperion Рік тому +3

    I loved this pilot episode. it's one of the best TOS episodes. Such high production values, and so well developed, in terms of plot, characters, and sets. Sure, it borrowed extensively from the 1956 film "Forbidden Planet" but still well done

  • @ret1con
    @ret1con Рік тому

    This made my day - thanks for posting!

  • @marcoevans2155
    @marcoevans2155 Рік тому +1

    Scream'n Spock. Great name for a band🎉

  • @docsavage8640
    @docsavage8640 Рік тому

    Both Spocks are cool. That's the amazing thing.

  • @tstahler5420
    @tstahler5420 Рік тому +1

    I liked the pilot episode, it has a classic science fiction feel.

  • @STho205
    @STho205 Рік тому +6

    Nicely contrasted: it was the director and the scripts:
    The Cage: Robert Butler directing a Gene Roddenberry script
    WNMHGB: James Goldstone directing a Samuel Peeples script.
    Goldstone was an Outer Limits director. Butler had never done major SF before. Outer Limits was mostly a dialog series like Twilight Zone.
    Butler had directed sitcoms, Batman, Hogans Heroes, The Untouchables (Desilu), Bonanza, The Fugitive, some TZ...he would end up doing Disney comedies, Hill Street Blues, Remington Steele and Moonlighting.
    Nimoy was a minor character and B movie guy in 1964. His SF experience was from the 50s in Zombies of the Stratosphere (a Martian) and Them. Played a reporter in Outer Limits.
    Cage was a very 50s B movie performance for him

  • @stephenkoehler4051
    @stephenkoehler4051 Рік тому +8

    Another thing to remember is that of the actors in Star Trek, Nimoy had a career as an Amry reservist in the 1950's. Since the character was initially supposed to be a "Martian" (according to the originally series Bible) he was intended to be fiery and emotional and Number One was the cold, Emotionless character thus the result was what you saw there in The Cage. In The Cage, Nimoy probably drew upon his service career as an inspiration for the character concerning giving orders. In a stressful or emergency situation the Drill Sergent mentality was what he drew upon considering his character vital in the chain of command. According to Roddenberry, Number one was the Cold Analytical character. When the studio executives told him to get rid of the Number One character becaue they were sexist as was typical of the period, the Analytical aspects of her character were transferred to Spock. There are continued references in the early episodes of the first season to a more emotional character as the development process commenced.

    • @dexterfurman9118
      @dexterfurman9118 Рік тому

      Actually the network told Roddenberry to get rid of Majel Barrett because they thought she couldn't act. Roddenberry made up the excuse that they were sexist so he wouldn't hurt her feelings. That's why she wore a blonde wig as Nurse Chapel so the execs wouldn't recognize her.

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Рік тому

      Don't compare the hatefulness of Star Trek to the Bible. And yes, Roddenberry himself was very sexist and sleazy, as could be witnessed by the revealing female starfleet outfits, the green-skinned dancers, the fact that he wanted betazoids to have four breasts,

    • @dexterfurman9118
      @dexterfurman9118 Рік тому +2

      @@STEJTHEGREATEST The revealing short skirted uniforms of the women was actually the idea of the network executives. If you look at the Cage the first pilot, the women wore loose fitting pants like the men. Was Roddenberry a womanizer? He was the worst of them. But remember Star Trek was a trail blazer for treating men, women and all races and ethnicities as equals. Highly unusual for the time. Martin Luther King Jr. said it was one of the few shows he allowed his children to watch because of this.

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Рік тому

      @@dexterfurman9118 I think the main reason behind having Majel Barrett being such a high ranking female character was because she was his significant other, and she was probably pulling strings to get herself pedestalised on the show. Grace Lee Whitney also hinted at this favouritism, which is why she thought she was cut, while Majel was kept on, even though Majel only ended up having a more background role as the show progressed. And as for equality within the show, well what about the ferengi????!!!!

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

      @@STEJTHEGREATEST Amazing! Everything you said was wrong.
      Why wouldn't you compare the actual show to the Series Bible? You know, the booklet that outlines the writing guidelines for a particular series.
      And the hateful sexism of the executives does not reflect the show itself, which is anything but.
      And what green-skinned dancers? In all of the original series there is only one scene with a woman dancing that has green skin at the time, and that scene is supposed to represent immoral behaviour.
      The outfits have already been explained by another poster.
      And to the best of my recollection there is nothing in the TNG Bible about Betazoids having four breasts.

  • @Stefan-
    @Stefan- Рік тому

    Lots of emotions for someone that claims to not have them.

  • @richpontone1
    @richpontone1 Рік тому +1

    Saw him in a Gunsmoke episode from the 1960s where he played an American Indian, who said few words but each word was like a photon torpedo. His Cowboy friend had been gunned down by a gang of Cowboys and he “played them” like a fiddle, where each killed the other and he came out alive at the end, unwounded.
    Best acting that I had ever saw on that Show.
    This guy was a better Actor than anyone else on Gun-smoke or ST TOS.

  • @Mr.Robert1
    @Mr.Robert1 Рік тому +1

    Number one, I order you to take a number two !

  • @TheKeenTribe
    @TheKeenTribe Рік тому

    Love the added cues

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +4

    3:36 I recommend this guy put the AE 35 unit back and let it fail.

    • @vibrolax
      @vibrolax Рік тому +1

      From the lips of H.A.L niner triple zero

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +1

      @@vibrolax Trannnnnnnnsmission concluded.

  • @cscms28
    @cscms28 Рік тому

    Yelling the orders and the echo repeat back was mimic command operations on a naval submarine of the era

  • @cscms28
    @cscms28 Рік тому +3

    Side topic: in the TNG pilot Dr. Crusher identifies self as CMO Crusher when using the communicator. Wish they would have kept that.

    • @davidjames468
      @davidjames468 Рік тому

      She always was the Chief Medical Officer - aka CMO

    • @cscms28
      @cscms28 Рік тому +1

      @@davidjames468 yes, of course. but, I never heard her IDENTIFY Herself as such when answering communicator except that first season. Like "CMO Crusher to bridge." or This is CMO Crusher, go ahead." It was always only as 'Dr. Crusher to DATA" or just 'Crusher Here, was is it Captain?""

    • @davidjames468
      @davidjames468 Рік тому

      @@cscms28 - Gotcha'!

  • @markbrisko8720
    @markbrisko8720 Рік тому +2

    Leonard Nimoy was quite an animated actor if you have seen him in other series and movies almost like Shatner and the directors of Star Trek told him Spock was a cool, logical alien who was half human and didn't express his emotions like you see in these two pilots. Nimoy said in interviews that this was hard to do for him to do and took a while to adapt to Spock caracter, but you can see he evolved into his caracter quite well over the three years the series was on television.

  • @BestEachDay
    @BestEachDay Рік тому

    It was a very different kind of Spock. 😂

  • @ethanisnotsleeping
    @ethanisnotsleeping Рік тому +4

    I know it's not the pilot but there's also the first aired episode where Spock freaks out and runs into McCoys room and tells him to shoot Nancy
    And then McCoy doesn't so Spock is like "screw this" and proceeds to start beating the crap out of her. She slaps him and then he flails dramatically into the bookcase and McCoy just stares at him

    • @kittyjayway
      @kittyjayway Рік тому +1

      Not totally Spock related but McCoy seemed to always be rather good at holding himself to a Vulcan. Or at least to Spock.
      Apparently Vulcans are supposed to be stronger than humans but Spock was unable to get the phaser out of his hands in the episode mentioned above. In another episode, McCoy straight up breaks out of Spock's grip when he goes crazy on the bridge.

  • @AgentM79
    @AgentM79 Рік тому +3

    Canonically, one could argue that Mr.Spock’s bearing evolved over the years as he had more exposure to humans. The TOS USS Enterprise had an all-human crew. And, of course, Spock and Number One were overlapping characters in the TOS timeline. SHE was the “computer on legs” in the pilot. But even those who literally saw Star Trek during it’s original run 1966-1969 met Spock “first”. Number One only appeared mid Season 1 in “The Menagerie”, and was never mentioned again in the series. “The Cage” never aired in it’s entirety until the 1980’s, but was seen at Star Trek conventions prior to that time. In short, Spock was “Spock” to fans before they ever knew about Number One, and his early appearance in the two pilots was as prototypical as the sets and the props (all of which were AWESOME). Leonard Nimoy’s work on Star Trek constitutes a cultural treasure.
    It will be VERY interesting to see how Spock and Una (Number One) evolve as separate co-existing characters on “Strange New Worlds”. Trek fans can’t get enough of these characters and Pike’s Enterprise. Then again, Leonard Nimoy and Majel Barrett’s portrayals could have EASILY co-existed in TOS. Except that network executives didn’t want a Woman as second in command of a starship. Or a satanic-looking crew member. How wrong they were!!!!!!!!!!
    We had Gene Roddenberry to explain the whole thing to us when “The Cage” came out on home video. But we absolutely saw a similar dynamic play out of Star Trek - The Next Generation. Tasha Yar and Worf were both essentially the same character. We were immediately left wondering why Worf wasn’t the Security Chief. And not surprised when he was reconned into the role with Denise Crosby’s early (and regrettable) departure. Did the Enterprise-D have a big enough bridge for the two characters? Absolutely. It just didn’t get a chance to happen.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

      I don't think anyone other than Gene Roddenberry thought that Spock looked like Satan. And the network did not object to his look either.
      I think the idea is originally from an Arthur C. Clarke story.
      In TNG, Data's look more or less matches the description of Frankenstein's monster from the book, but nobody seems to notice that either.

    • @AgentM79
      @AgentM79 Рік тому

      @@davidwuhrer6704 That’s incorrect.. The network objected to both Spock and Number One. Roddenberry was told “ lose the guy with the ears”. An airbrushed photo of Spock exists from the era omitting his eyebrows and ears.

  • @royroblox
    @royroblox Рік тому

    This is amazing!! and the cut at 2:05!!

  • @wickedbird1538
    @wickedbird1538 Рік тому

    😮😮They certainly improved Spock drastically. After the pilot, They made him SEXY.

  • @bletheringfool
    @bletheringfool Рік тому

    This was a phase that Spock was not proud of. He was taking nips of Vulcan Port to get through the day. Thankfully he kicked the habit

  • @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
    @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Рік тому +1

    I've always wondered, from the beginning throughout the original series, no one ever thought to verbalize, "Does anybody think maybe we should switch to non-flammable materials for the control panels on the bridge...?"

    • @noratheelk3729
      @noratheelk3729  Рік тому

      It does seem to be a pretty serious concern, if there was a fire, there would be no where to evacuate to, it’s not like a building.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Рік тому

    No harm in admitting that Star Trek deceloped over time 🖖
    Great complilation 😁

  • @mrtrek2117
    @mrtrek2117 Рік тому

    Just before Star Trek found its true identity.

  • @petersteenkamp
    @petersteenkamp Рік тому

    Of course he's yelling. He has to communicate over the loud background music.

  • @valueofnothing2487
    @valueofnothing2487 Рік тому +1

    If you get a chance, read These Are the Voyages. How many of the things they're debating today, we also talked about in the early part of the show.

  • @dexterfurman9118
    @dexterfurman9118 Рік тому +3

    I've been a huge fan since I was a kid and The Menagerie/ Cage has always been my favorite. I'm a huge fan of Nimoy and yes, his character was written to be different from was it transformed to later on. But as you can see in the Cage, he really couldn't act and seemed lost at times.

    • @noratheelk3729
      @noratheelk3729  Рік тому +7

      I don’t think his acting was the problem, I think the direction was conflicting or possibly misguided.

  • @PETERJOHN101
    @PETERJOHN101 Рік тому +1

    You knew Nimoy was overacting by comparing him to a sedate Bill Shatner. 🤣

  • @whiskeyvictor5703
    @whiskeyvictor5703 Рік тому

    I, for one, *love* Cagey CAPSLOCK Spock! Live long and scream!

  • @TralfazConstruction
    @TralfazConstruction Рік тому

    In the run-up to the series' premier in 1966 this is the image of Mr. Spock which NBC was promoting. I think the TV commercial bumpers only featured still images (my memory at least) of scenes from what would be Star Trek. It was my mother that kept an eye on when Star Trek was going to debut. She mentioned the show throughout that summer quite a bit.

  • @christinebathelt
    @christinebathelt Рік тому

    The limping 😂😂😂

  • @lincolnparc8897
    @lincolnparc8897 6 місяців тому

    Spock yells like the oil change mechanics when I go to jiffy lube....

  • @chrism.4544
    @chrism.4544 Рік тому

    Looking back, I think it's puzzling why they didn't just throw some more money into the budget by going longer on the story and special effects, with theatrical widescreen and releasing this as a motion picture to theaters. It looked more interesting than most science fiction films from 1964. They could have just went motion picture franchise every few years instead of dragging a series through the mud. This looks better to me than the subsequent pilot and series. The could have hired Patty Duke as a bridge officer to lock in young people.

  • @gerardcousineau3478
    @gerardcousineau3478 Рік тому

    The good ball { 😊 } 💕

  • @batterymakermarkii2654
    @batterymakermarkii2654 Рік тому

    01:18 That gadget Nimoy has his hand on started life as an Rauland Amplicall intercom...

  • @marialanier6155
    @marialanier6155 Рік тому

    Maybe he needed a chill pill

  • @johnbroadway4196
    @johnbroadway4196 Рік тому +1

    These are the most promising of a fledgling new TV program. Especially when we know the shake out of certain characters. Pike is a KooL Man, just as Kirk was in his own way. But Spock will always be the reality of so many stories.
    Because of how we learned of both logic and human emotions. That real conflict.

    • @howardmunro5464
      @howardmunro5464 Рік тому

      It can't hurt to orchestrate the ALternate Timeline, where MAQUIS AND BAJORANS Embrace Perfect Democracy, and the. Fines Tellurite Medical Team ensures a PERFECT MEDICAL RECOVERY FOR POOR CPTN CHRISTOPHER PIKE.

  • @jonsaboe5372
    @jonsaboe5372 Рік тому

    A fun, in-universe speculation is that Spock (being half human) is trying out different human affectations -- seeing which ones work, before finally becoming at peace with his ultimate cool, logical self. As people try out different personalities to fit in, Spock eventually learned that it is not worth the effort, and just better to be yourself.

  • @macklee6837
    @macklee6837 Рік тому +1

    CHECK THE CIRCUIT!
    CAN'T BE THE SCREEN THEN!

  • @ewarrior9776
    @ewarrior9776 Рік тому

    They didn't even give Shouty McSpock a decent haircut in the original pilot!

  • @danf4447
    @danf4447 Рік тому

    well spock was yelling out commands more like the chief of the boat in a submarine... so i can kinda see where they got that idea.

  • @enceladus3318
    @enceladus3318 Рік тому

    I think early in the shows development Spock behaved more human to fit in, if not experience that side of his persona before becoming the officer and Vulcan we know.

  • @myfavoritemartian1
    @myfavoritemartian1 Рік тому

    Beware of smiling Vulcans!

  • @chuongha9530
    @chuongha9530 Рік тому

    Spoke had emotion.

  • @craigw.scribner6490
    @craigw.scribner6490 Рік тому

    "FULL REVERSE POWERRRRRR!!!!"

  • @EdKolis
    @EdKolis Рік тому

    I hear the reason Spock says "sense-oars" was to mask Nimoy's Boston accent. And now all Vulcans talk like that...

  • @fnoce5948
    @fnoce5948 Рік тому +1

    Bible has scientific accuracy like about round Earth and jet streams. And much more. ( Mention of Adam and Eve in 'The Cage'.)

  • @mohamad-ms2pb
    @mohamad-ms2pb Рік тому

    From what I understand about the first pilot "The Cage" Number One who was second in command was the one who displays little emotion with a high intellect, while maintaining a high intellect. Notice how Vina says Pike might as well mate with a computer. As for Spock's limping, that was an injury to his leg that was sustained from the attack on Rigel seven. One can notice a bandage on his lower leg. There is another crewman in the landing party with a bandage on his neck.

  • @komradewirelesscaller6716
    @komradewirelesscaller6716 Рік тому

    "Disappeared in that region..." Stated with a picture of the Pleiades Star Cluster. The implication is that the Talos system is located somewhere in the vicinity of the Pleiades Star Cluster!

  • @AcmeRacing
    @AcmeRacing Рік тому

    The other day I noticed a moment in The Naked Time where Spock makes a joke. After "swordsman" Sulu is subdued with a Vulcan neck pinch, he says "Take D'Artagnan here to sick bay." It seemed really odd for Spock to say that.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads Рік тому

      No it was entirely within character.
      It was contextually apt as sulu (japanese) was using a european thrusting sword from about the era of the musketeers. Had he been using a katana i suspect spock would have said 'musashi' instead; and spock regularly displays a deep knowledge of earth literary classics.

  • @Erekose2023
    @Erekose2023 Рік тому

    Many many years ago I came up with a sort of semi-synopsis of a storyarc that explained Spocks altering character, (and no it did NOT involve anything like logic-dyslexia ) It also explained the transition from it being a starship of the United Earth planets to the United Federation of Planets.
    It also told of an Klingon-UEP war that was on the verge of breaking out, and the importance of the New Star Drive that the Enterprise was utilising (which of course turns out to be what became known as Warp Drive)
    Heck, I even explained the somewhat off key "I'm not used to women on the brdige" remark
    I just wish that I had jotted down my thoughts in their entirity rather than vo9calising them to my friends.
    Ironically, my synopis , of sorts, lacked the conitnuity inconsistancies that later showed up massiveley in Enterprise, and Discovery. Funny how a kid can do better than modern screen writers. but then, I was reading the classics of the sceince fiction genre quite voraciously at the time.

  • @rohnkd4hct260
    @rohnkd4hct260 Рік тому

    The idea of a pilot show is work out the characters. It’s the first time you “see” the character, before he was only on paper.

  • @tomcline5631
    @tomcline5631 Рік тому +2

    Ok. You guys are missing the whole point as far as my comments reading went.
    The original concept pilot,with the "emotional" Spock,was because the "unemotional logical" person was supposed to be No.1 ,Majel Barrett's character. Spock's people were an advanced race,with a more logical calm outlook, but still have humor etc that was expressed, subtly.
    Barrett's character No.1 was called No.1 not because she was the First Officer, but because on her home planet,she was the most intelligent,most genetically perfect one of her age group. On her planet, people that obtained that ranking stopped using their personal names,and were accorded the honorable title of No.1.
    Her people were human,but genetically engineered humans called Ilyllians. They honored genetic and logical perfection above all else. And Barrett's No.1 was the most perfect of the perfect.She was the Pinnacle of her species. She was never even given a name in the original pilots.
    When they dumped that idea,they then developed Spock and his race, as the stoic,unemotional,even, emotion shunning,race!
    As for the "Shoutin Spock" that's what's known as the command voice. Officers and senior enlisted are taught to use this tone of voice in command situations. Pure basic military training. Had nothing to do with the "different" Spock.
    I think they toned it down because they seriously demilitarized Star Fleet by the second pilot. In the Menagerie,they were just recovering from a major infantry type fight,and we're mourning crew losses. In the second version Where No Man Has Gone Before,Star Fleet was reinterpreted as an exploratory service.
    Roddenberry pretty much reimagined the whole series.And saved it!!!
    Live Long and Prosper.

  • @censorshipsucks9493
    @censorshipsucks9493 Рік тому

    Yeah, that one where he smiled at the flowers always got me. But hey, it was a pilot then, not a refined classic with canon.............until Discovery came along and said forget all that.

  • @fliegeroh
    @fliegeroh Рік тому

    Mr. Spock was simply younger and more juvenile. Kind of like you.

  • @ep8029
    @ep8029 Рік тому

    Amusing.
    Perhaps he'd been at the Romulan ale?

  • @anthonycali6880
    @anthonycali6880 Рік тому

    Hi, Just for laughs, Sci Fi info. I loved old version of outer limits. There was a lot of jargon they took from those episodes, such as Vulcan, or as in vulcanize. And some things about Kirk, and names.
    I believe one episode of Outer L. they try to make phrases in the future, sound like common place. A woman who worked at space center, and her husband out in space. One of her coworkers said to her, "Shes been sitting on the edge of her oscilloscope waiting to hear from you!", and I couldn't stop laughing