This waterproof FPV drone is NOT a scam // DARWINFPV HULK
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00:00:00 - Rainy day. Perfect for FPV?
00:00:28 - Flying in the rain!
00:02:25 - And then it fell out of the sky for no reason
00:03:17 - Giving it a bath
00:03:55 - PID tune is meh
00:04:55 - I guess it's waterproof!
00:05:56 - The FC and ESC are fully protected
00:07:15 - Plugs are also sealed
00:08:02 - How are the motors waterproof?
00:09:48 - 600 mW analog vTX
00:10:45 - vTX output power exceeds rated 600 mW
00:12:04 - Built in ELRS
00:12:49 - 2204 motors pretty small for 5"
00:14:13 - Vertical-plate frame design
00:16:23 - GoPro mount will probably break your screen
00:16:59 - Make sure you use the battery skid-plate
00:17:44 - How to install props on pusher-motors
• How to install quadcop... - Basics of propellers for beginners
00:19:07 - The waterproof part is cool. The frame and motors are meh.
00:20:56 - Maybe build your own?
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The riding mower being left out in the rain during winter when it's five feet from the shelter of the barn really irks me. There. I said it. 🤣
Is OK... he has goats. No need mower.
Better check the oil bet its milky lol
Yea but you know all those quads are warm and dry😁
Was it a running mower? Maybe had it for parts. I'm the same way unless the stuff is for parts. But in that case...get the parts u need and get the rest gone lol
It’s fine he conformal coated the mower
In the days of large brushed motors we used to run them in under water. I have at times liberally washed mud and grit out of my brushless quad motors. However, I never waited to "let them dry", I span them up to remove most of the water, then used water repellent spray like WD40, and then span them up again (in a large cardboard box) to clear that, then used a warm hair dryer or radiator if in heating season (Thanks for the hair dryer, Dear.......OOOOH, did you not know?). I have motors dating back five years plus with that treatment taking place......... NO bearing issues, ever.
Joshua you missed the most important part of the BNF Hulk; it rights itself after a crash, and you can takeoff. Crashing sideways or upside down in the water makes no difference, the HULK flips itself right side up for you to takeoff. Nick Burns tried it in his pool and it was an awesome trick. I don't know if the FC in a different frame setup would do that. Video idea, for spring weather - how to waterproof a quad build. Thanks for the content.
Just about any frame will do that if you mount the pool noodles high enough. There may even be a case for strapping them to the battery on regular frames.
In unobsrtucted water maybe, but anything it can contact and you're likely done.
@@TheBadRaven Do you mean something similar to that one moment JB dunked the drone into the pool close to the edge so it took a second try to take off again?
Yeah, if you hit a piece of debris floating on the water, it will be a little harder to take off.
But Turtle mode should work just fine in water and the same thing can happen on land if you hit a tree or a bush and get stuck in it.
Actually, thinking about it, this setup with the battery on the bottom may be worse when you hit something in the water and it's sharp enough to damage the battery. With a normal frame with the battery on top, you would be fairly safe.
Every time I watch your videos your piloting skill improves. You can totally notice a big difference. You are so smooth.
This would be the perfect application for one of those magnetic USB C charging cables. Leave the tip in the USB C receptacle and silicone around it. Would also be much easier to attach the cable for config.
Another banger video, JB! 🔥
Im not sure if they have one that allows data transmission l, I have only seen chargers.
@M M not tried one myself, but seen other guys using them for tight cinewhoop builds.
Think RDQ sells one that has an extra strong magnet, does data, and might just be the ticket. Also comes with extra USB C tips in case you knock one out.
@@muchthump beauty. Good info, thanks 👍🏻
Those don’t do data I think
I bought the cheap baby ape and It become a little favorite, used it a lot and everything is going strong, so Darwin are doing something I like.
Thanks for covering pusher prop configuration! I spent a good amount of time over-thinking this after building my first pusher about a month ago.
Drying the motors asap seems to be the solution for motor longevity. Typically my motors have to be in water for like a day before I notice issues. Other suggestions from people like the guy behind the deep 6 waterproof kit are spinning up the motors/flying a pack or two afterwards (if you’re just submerging it
and the weather isn’t raining).
Thanks for the spicy comment.
@@MysteryD LOL dat spicy scoville comment 😎
Why not a squirt of WD40 in motors ?
@@ezapata3200 wouldn't hurt
@@ezapata3200 All that will accomplish is a lot of WD40 on everything. Plus it is more of a penetrant, not a lubricant. You can use it for something like a door hinge but on things that need real lubricants it is a very bad idea. Even if some made it to the bearings it could simply ruin the good lubricant.
I notice on thier site that the motors they are using feature stainless steel bearings so that may be a consideration if replacing them . Also the pool noodles are positioned in such a way that the quad flips over automatically if crashed inverted which is cool .
It flies very different when you take those dumb floats off. Plus the standoff for the floats will bend very easily on the first crash.
Fantastic flying and review, Joshua! 😃
I like that Darwin FPV is thinking outside of the box!
Either way, I just changed my mind about building a underwater drone to go to the beach. 😬
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Not sure why you ever thought an underwater quad in salt water was ever a good idea 🤨
Hi Josh, Great video and review of the Darwin Hulk. That was the reason I wanted to get it. Winter time is the worst time to fly. But with the Hulk, I could fly no matter what
You could just use conformal coating and corrosionx to fly in the wet
Awesome content! You should make a build guide for a waterproof floating quad and best way to mount the floats etc
This is the top of my wishlist this will be interesting!!!
beautiful video quality! love it
What a time to be alive ;o) BIG Thumbs up JB
Honestly I have thought about and the motor is the weak point on a waterproof drone but if you use WD40 and spray each motor profusely after each flight to clear out the water you probably can keep the motors and bearings working quite a while.
WD40 is great at rejuvenating gritty bearings also used to do this in RC cars all the time tbh.
Conformal Coating the stator and using ceramic or stainless steel bearings could make the motor more tolerant to use in the rain etc.
I think they mentioned the motors having stainless steel bearings
Great vid 👌😎 the coating they use for the esc pads more than likely will be fsc or something similiar or an acrylic blend of it, i cannot find it anywhere for public sale anymore in it's raw fsc form, it's always a blend..... seems there have been some lawd changed that dont allow public sale of some silicone based products :)
I fly in light to medium rain often, nary a problem. Not for long, but a few minutes always seems fine. If it gets obviously wet dry it out good before using again. And I've plucked one out of a lake, and another out of a river, both still worked fine. 0 conformal coating.
It’s funny when we mention VTX MW output for range, I’m running 200 mw on a flying wing and getting well over 700 yards. I’m confident I could reach a mile away with my little 1s tiny whoop vtx on 200mw. Now penetration is a different story 🎉
DarwinFPV are doing a lot of cool stuff for the hobby (like making affordable quads like the baby ape, and trying new stuff)
poorly my first support case wasnt as cool as the stuff from them... tried to flash BLHeLi, done anything correct, took the right set of bin files (100% sure) ... one of 4 ESCs, gone... tried to reflash Bluejay (yes, it was a batch with Bluejay shipped, my second one was BLHeLi out of box), 1 of 4 ESC still gone... tried flashing, and flashing... nothing... after a while i finally did a wrong flash and took the wrong file. Reflashed the right one, 3 of 4 ESC gone... okey, fair, my fault... but the support also was just like "oh yeah, you bricked. (POINT)..."... i now wait for an arduino like board, to reflash it and unbrick... but i found out about this way, after i ordered a new one... btw. the new one also bricked, but after a mini crash on the grass... no answer from support for a while... just e refound of about 50% of the price... and thats after the first flight... okey, fair. ists a cheap drone, so full refund or 50% refund isnt a big difference... but could be better... Runcam, or speedybee support was completly different level! wrote with them, they looked interested in my problem, tried to analyse it with me... in the end after very good 5-6 mails with them, really friendly and good mails, they offered me to send me 2 new ESCs! because i had to wait, they gave me a lifetime speedybee app code FOR FREE!... poorly i forgot to write them after 3 weeks for the new batch to be sendt...BUT!! AFTER almost a WHOLE YEAR! i wrote them again... no hesistations, no mimi, nothing... my 2 new ESCs are on the way... questionless... THATS a freaking awesome support! ... but nevermind, back to DarwinFPV: I love the stuff, i love the babyape, i got me a third, and i will still buy the baby ape. in my opinion, the absolutly BEST cheap drone for around 100 bucks! great feeling, best with a HV LiPo btw. ... yeah, just felt to write this many lines hahaha
He says I don't know why you would freestyle over water well now why not cuz you can this is awesome
what do you do about the lipo balance connector? cant that short when exposed to water?
Really sick rips in this video.
Nice video and info!
Thank you!👍
I thought to transmit above 500mw or 600mw, you need a ham license.
What's going on?
Any chance a TBS rx with HDZ or WS video in the works? Or are digital systems a non starter for any kind of water proofing? Maybe heat is too much of an issue?
I would probably pull the bell and pack with grease if I planned to get mine wet. They have grease made for bearings on boat trailers that is probably ideal. Repack the grease a few times a year and replace bad bearings as needed. The USB C port is likely OK as our phones are ip rated with these ports but I would watch the pads inside for corrosion over time. Could always seal it shut with shoe goo or something after tuning but you'll be picking it out later to upgrade unless you shoe goo a plug in or something.
Hey Joshua i Heard of deep 6 being used to waterproof drones are you ever going to review it I would love to see a review from you
Hello Bardwell,
I have a problem with my Analog VTX. (Goku HM850) It worked fine, but now when I go on the Channel (on the Goggle) that I set in Betaflight, the signal isn't there. When I go to near frequencies the signal is here, but wery weak and the video has waves in it. Can you help me?
Do you think using the 03 air unit would be okay out there, would love to see that review. I want grab a digital one especially living by a lake, freestyle over water is the best 🤣👍
I just ordered the darwn cement to try out. From AliExpress. My 3rd stack and still haven't gotten it flying 🤣 hopefully i have it figured out by time that arrives 😁
Are you using a crossfire module with the boxer?
High Josh im going to buy a set of dji v2 goggles from rdq how do i do this so you can get a kick back can i go through one of your old videos on the dji v2 goggles
I just picked one up and can't get it to bind. I'm reflashing my TX firmware now because maybe it's a transmitter problem. The RX goes into bind mode, but the TX kicks out of bind mode after a few seconds.
Been eyeing this drone for awhile.. I really want one.
But yeah 2204 motor is a long range 5" motor or ultralightweight 5" motor..
The takeoff from the water is such a cool looking thing
Rosser has been doing 2200 staters. Even forcing smaller motors on the new LR5 03. Only a 12x12 M2 motormount. That eliminates 2300s.
During the monthly product video you brought up the waterproof ESC/FC from Axis. Both of you seemed to think it was stupid. immediately ordered it, built up a BangGod with it, and then crashed it in the snow. Works great.
Are we talkin about that aluminum box stack from Axis?? I had never seen anybody mention it being waterproof..🤔
@@willpowerfpv3246 yup, not waterproof but weatherproof
@@stefanozanna1988 oh sweet, thanks for the reply! 😁✌️
Is it safe to dunk the lipo in water like that?
Anyone have any idea how they are making the O3 version waterproof?
Yay! Its a Pusher!
Seen a review of this drone it's awesome.
Awesome.
@ 8:27 - I learned this today 😎
And yes, those bearings sounded awful.
Cool drone 😮
Man i was looking for that cinnamon-whoop shirt on the interwebs. Is there a chance to buy one anywhere? :)
Is this on BF 4.3? That random failsafe/lockup looks like what I was getting when I upgraded a couple of older micros to 4.3...felt like a cpu thing.
When you buy it, since it's a aio it comes with bf 4.3 / elrs 2.5 but there's a bf 4.4/ elrs 3.5 update available as a release candidate
My tx16s throttle has been cutting off like this since updating to the flying dutchman 2.8 firmware.. Only happened a few times and thankfully never mid flight.
If this lands in water upside down, can it turtle back to upright? Will the water block the radio signal of the submerged antenna?
It automatically rights itself based on the location of the floats.
But will it Vanny style?
Any thoughts on using rainx or similar on camera lens to make water bead off? I've flown in rain and had rain droplets big enough to seriously obscure vision.
rainx works great, though will need airspeed to move drops off.
Was this filmed recently?
I'm honestly jealous you still have foliage on the trees...
It's like South Hoth here in Illinois.
Didn't one of the Flynoceros frames used to have a similar design with the 3d printed piece going through the carbon like this?
Will be interesting to see the durability. My experience with DarwinFPV isn’t great.
How do you think it would do in salt water, and i guess you could dunk it in fresh water after it got salt watered.
The pusher configuration seems like more trouble than it's worth. I want something like the Deep6 but I dont really want to build a deep6 lol
Awww man, I want this thing, but it’s probably about to sell out again after this video 😂😆
Coincidence. I am just building a waterproof drone
Using the SWELLPRO SPRY shell I am going to use a DJI AIR UNIT and (maybe) a DARWINFPV stack. Should give me a aerial tool I can comfortably fly out over water every day. I also have invested in 5 DJIFPV so an occasional water “landing” won’t be too catastrophic
6:40 Not so much left behind but are actually floating around in the water. Even a fully submersed Mineral oil PC must have its fluid changed regularly due to the conductive materials that will collect in the fluid, things like Heavy metals that most of us know exist in near everything.
Even people not that "smart" know things like Milk for example has Iron in it.. well that Iron is conductive, even at micro amounts.
Seems like for however much this costs some attention could have been paid to the aerodynamics of the floats. Wouldn't have been too hard to come up with something to make the ends of the pool noodles a bit less blunt.
But could you dive with it? Maybe but motors in 3D mode :)
Would not expect much range under water tho.
Yea but I wonder how it would handle salt water after a few times of going in?
love this intro lol
They’d need a grease port to pump in grease to the bearings if to prevent corrosion entirely, although if you flew it for a period of time after contact with water the heat generated should dry out the bearings slowing degradation although as mentioned salt would still add some factor, dunking in deionised water and then fly to dry should be even better.
Wouldn't grease add some friction? These tiny things are quite sensitive to how easily they can spin.
@@Qwarzz grease is used with bearings to lubricate and lessen friction, the heat and water would remove that causing rapid bearing wear and corrosion, a grease port would allow it to be replaced. All new bearings should arrive with a quantity of grease inside them anyway. The wrong type or too higher pressure of grease could increase friction though
I could imagine the yaw jiggles being caused by those chunky boi waternoodle thingies😂
at 24 volts it will jump gap lol if its 7 volts and if the gap dist is no closer then2 mm then itll be ok, Low volt low current stuff is water proof in a most of the time at 5 volt, gap between pads is the biggest deciding factor if voltage will jump to were its not supposed to.
It's been pouring here in Knoxville for days
I like how you took the wrong prop, it happens to me again and again altough I know exactly where each propeller goes
So I'm guessing you would need an elrs module in the back of your control and won't bind to crsf.
No ELRS won't bind to crossfire. But the ELRS control modules are pretty cheap
What was up with the random drop after punching it a bit? Determine a cause, or just weird unexplained stuff?
I have no idea. At first, it looked like it was moving slightly when I armed, but when I walked over to it, it was completely unresponsive even though receiver telemetry was still working. After power cycle it was fine :-/
@@JoshuaBardwell very weird 😐
I wonder if it was the RX or betaflight… the active TLM suggests the RX was working fine 🤷🏻♂️ Gotta love the random crap like this 😒
Long time listener first time caller. When are we going to get an update of your property on liftoff as well can we maybe get a window left open on the map so we can fly into the house lol
That's ultimately up to the Liftoff devs. I kind of like it the way it is though to be honest.
We wanna fly over you in your bed while you sleep.🤣
@Joshua Bardwell Well I'll sent them a strongly worded letter then, when I find my stamps their going to hear about it
I get that reference!
I wouldn't mind the field getting an update.
i run xing2 1404 3800kv on my 3.5inch and its an animal, it is 220g but still even with just 3520 props its insane, currently im running emax avan 3528 props and an 85% throttle limit and its about the fastest thing i have ever seen in my life from a stop, perhaps they wouldnt be big enough for a 350 gram 3.5 inch, but most arnt that heavy, if its that heavy the disk loading would be shocking, i could see the hulk motors doing well on a 4 inch prop or a ciniwhoop, but a 3.5inch racing or freestyle quad i think its far overkill and far too much weight out on the end of little 3.5inch arms that are usually 3mm carbon and really skinny compared to a 5inch, these motors would just make more issues than they solve, i do think they are too small for a 5 inch, but atleast you should get decent flight time. i have been looking at getting the hulk stack for my quad because i really like the way the esc and fc are fully encased, its just heavy and expencive tbh
Joshua, why do you have an elrs module on your elrs boxer?
Because the Hulk has an SPI receiver which is running ELRS 2.x, and I didn't want to flash my Boxer back to 2.x.
@@JoshuaBardwell there's a bf 4.4 release candidate that updates it to express lrs 3.5 Darwinf4sx1280hd I'm running it now
Correct, but I didn't want to swap the factory firmware for BF 4.4 in case it caused some issue that did not reflect the product as shipped by Darwin. I mostly try to review things in factory-delivered state.
Ooh puppy
I'm totally going to grab one of these drones but what they don't tell you about is how you're going to go through Motors like water literally😂 would like to see a review on the 03 air unit model. Have a ton of water here in western NY by the lake.😮
The price is part of that. They have solutions for motors for this that wont die when submersed the first time. One college in Oakland has a program with a drone that can swim as well as fly without any physical human input. Has its own ballast that draws in water to right itself as it dives, then expels that water to turn itself back 90 degrees and make itself "upright" for flying again, right out of the water. The "Loon copter". Rutgers University has one too, though not as elegant.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 I don't know if I like their new version now they took the camera out and they put it in a box like a GoPro it looks weird 🤣, I'm just tired of companies selling us garbage the first time and then be like oh we'll get it the next time around and then they just keep selling us a different model and over and over again can we just build something nice the first time around
17:38min championship :D
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I just noticed theat house is a the one in lifitoff game
Would ceramic bearings resolve that issue ?
fully ceramic bearings are very expensive, most ceramic bearings just replace the balls with ceramic balls but the majority of the bearing is still metal.
@@definingslawek4731 i understand = but the only way to go "water proof" with motors is ceramic bearings
He says PID tuning is meh, since i'm new to FPV, did anybody improve the pid tuning which i could adapt? I got the O3 version. updated to BF 4.4 already.
I have a lot of trouble with overheating of the air unit. Do u have any problems like that?
@@eichelcommander have you checked that the thermal pads have good Connection?
Okay I had to make a point that the Drone camps guy put hot glue over the motor wires which is ridiculous, thanks for explaining that.
What’s the fpv
footage look like under water? I’m sure blurry
Check my channel for a video titled "Crashed my New Drone in the Creek". It's about 19 uploads or 2 months ago. Also have one flying in the snow and one in the rain. I don't dread rainy days anymore.
Anyone tried to waterproof the dji o3 yet?
Thats ok!!! Who's buying that dji original v1 air unit today???? After the release the lite version (caddx/runcam link) nobody uses that v1 anyway!!! More space, more heavy, no mounts holes, plus the image never compare with one gopro!!!!
For ME "" super normal DJI remove for the production that unit for sure!!!!
Thank pilots!!! Have a good fly time!!!!
When I bought my two AERODYNE NIMBUS I thought I would be flying in the RAIN. Snow. Sleet
AH BUT too nice to ruin
Would spraying a little WD40 into the motors help the bearings out?
WD40 would displace moisture, but I would be concerned it might also get into the grease and dissolve the grease in the bearings. Not sure about that.
wd40 is generally harmful and should not be used
@@JoshuaBardwell Maybe a teflon based?
@@JoshuaBardwell would inox work or a product you would suggest?
And a T bag sack made out of used dryer sheets around the motors?
Why did they put the motors down and the floaties on top. Why not put the floaties on the bottom and motors the normal way. Then the motors/props wouldn't be in the water when you arm and take off?
So that it flips itself right-side up if it crashes upside down in the water.
Things I’d like to know. Would this drone survive a straight dive bomb into the water? And, if you crash into the water,can you self right it if the drone is upside down ?
Matt Pochwat has a video where he does just that
Surprised you'd review this and not a Deep 6
I literally just flew my quad puddle of water. Currently driving it out on the Dehumidifier.
I’m literally still looking for my screwdriver to take it apart.
use a hair dryer way faster
@@fearlessflyersfpv420 already back in the air. No damage. I’m still a beginner, it was the Cetus x kit. Pretty surprised I must say.
As a technician, I can recommend applying hot air to dunked motors soon after. Blow dryer. Room heater. etc. After salt water, rinse the whole thing in fresh water vigorously and force dry. No air drying. Must be hot air to rescue bearings and other sensitive oxidized surfaces.
I really do not understand how you guys move so smooth in turnings, in my videos are like 1000 ping movements, like when you move with lag
Just practice.
Someone should make a collective pitch quad so you can go down in water and come back out and also fly out of water like a submarine-quad
I wonder if I can fly this in the pond out back and go underwater then back up 😂
it will lose signal after just a couple inches underwater. Antennas have to be above water lever.
make it turtle mode in the water i want to see
cheap motors the magnets come lose cause grinding
Turtle mode? 😂
Lots of waterproof smartphones have a type-C port, shouldn't be a problem I think
The osd was frozen when you crashed
I agree. But the receiver was still working. Suggests the FC locked up.
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