Temnoceran ecology : Nerscylla and Rakna-Kadaki in Monster Hunter

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  • @reallycantthinkofausername487
    @reallycantthinkofausername487 2 роки тому +839

    I believe nerscylla flays the skin of gypceros specifically. As nerscylla is very weak to thunder element she wears the rubbery skin of gypceros as he is very resistant to thunder

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +82

      I always wondered how a Nercylla survives in a land of flying wyverns like Rathalos, Nargacuga, Monoblos and Tigrex. It's body is clearly more brittle and frail compared to the wyverns
      The aforementioned monsters could easily crush it given the chance, especially since it exists in the same environments as some of them

    • @federicobonizzoni5986
      @federicobonizzoni5986 2 роки тому +7

      Why do you called a she is not a character it’s a specie of animal

    • @Mezworld
      @Mezworld 2 роки тому +90

      Following that logic, Astalos could be a major predator, considering the use of thunder attacks and Astalos' preference for arthropod prey

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +76

      @@Mezworld I think Astalos and Nercylla should have been characterized as antagonistic rivals/enemies, similar to Tarantula Hawk Wasps and Tarantulas are in real life

    • @Mezworld
      @Mezworld 2 роки тому +9

      @@unicorntomboy9736 oooo noice. Especially with Astalos' "stinger" tail

  • @randomswiss4807
    @randomswiss4807 2 роки тому +620

    I just want to point out something, it is said that Nerscylla only skin a specific type of prey : gypsceros and khezu. And what does those two have in common? elastic skin that is resistant to thunder element.
    So I think the Nerscyllas may have a predator that uses thunder element and therefore wears thunder resistant skin to protect from it's attacks.
    Now the question is, who is this Nerscylla eater? Well, what monster is known to both eat insects-like monsters and use thunder element? That's right, Astalos. In conclusion, Nerscyllas might wear the skin of thunder resistant preys in order to better stand a chance against Astalos, or at least that's my theorie, what do y'all think?

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +313

      I mentioned in ratatoskr's podcast I'd have loved it if Astalos leaned much more into the buggy aspect and had a spider hunting wasp like relationship with nerscylla funnily enough. Either way it's an interesting idea!

    • @bobisuncanny2760
      @bobisuncanny2760 2 роки тому +84

      I love your theory. Even tho, it's more likely for Shrouded Nerscylla to wear Khezu skin to maintain her temperature, a a slimy, elastic and moist skin is ideal to keep her cool, and avoid drying out. In addition there are no astalos or electric monsters in the deserts. On the other hand, it could work in the Everwood, because this region mixes arid and desert lands and temperate forests.

    • @temporal712
      @temporal712 2 роки тому +70

      @@bobisuncanny2760 my theory for Shrouded Nerscylla is that it uses Khezu Skin for better predation. Per the Khezu video, if we believe they rely most on smell. Wearing the skin of someone that smells like a friend instead of a threat would be highly advantageous for successful ambushes.

    • @chaos4654
      @chaos4654 2 роки тому +18

      @@temporal712
      Might be possible they hunt Gypceros to get decent starter armor for hunting Khezu.

    • @magmafeline8239
      @magmafeline8239 2 роки тому +1

      @@chaos4654 I don’t think that’s how that works

  • @unicorntomboy9736
    @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +538

    I love how it interacts with the human hunter during its fight. Whenever it knocks you out with its sleep-inducing stinger, it will slowly go up to the human hunter and inspect you and tap you a couple of times before attacking with its mandibles. I think this is paranoia resulting from its Gypceros prey, which likes to play dead to perform a deadly counterattack.
    I love this attention to detail, which really adds to the characterisation of Nercylla, in addition to demonstrating decent intelligence.
    On another note, I think in Monster Hunter 6, a new insect monster based on the real life Bullet Ant or Bulldog Ant would be great. A giant Ant monster would be great. Imagine a turf war between the hypothetical Ant monster and Nercylla? Especially if the former fought together in pairs against the spider?

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +154

      Yup, Nerscylla just has so much wonderful personality and behaviour moments for a giant spider monster.
      More bug monsters needed in general!

    • @jackkrell4238
      @jackkrell4238 2 роки тому +20

      I must preface that I don't intend to pressure you into uploading videos that don't appeal to you as you produce quality, educative content already, but an ecology video encompassing the biological functions and evolutionary adaptations of the crustacean classification would be wonderful.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +4

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel Can you please do Nargacuga next?

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 2 роки тому +11

      Damn you don't see that kind of stuff in World or Rise, Im hoping blatant quirky animations like that will return in the next game

    • @TsulaAngenati2292
      @TsulaAngenati2292 2 роки тому +7

      @@kennethsatria6607 well, Kulu acts like that and Anjananth doesn’t do it in-game, but it’s mentioned that if he sees a Rath, he’ll run into the low hanging canopy and wait for them there since they know if they follow him, they won’t be able to fly in such a low canopy

  • @conner1684
    @conner1684 2 роки тому +167

    I imagine that old world hunters would need REALLY big cases for their entomology collections

  • @JohnDoe-tt5qc
    @JohnDoe-tt5qc 2 роки тому +342

    The skin-wearing habit might also be an olfactory disguise, especially when it comes to hunting Khezu, who I assume relies on smell quite a bit. It would either smell like another Khezu or rotting meat, both of which would probably convince a Khezu not to immediately flee at the very least.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +100

      This is quite an interesting idea indeed!

    • @17deluxe51
      @17deluxe51 2 роки тому +14

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel Agreed, this is probably my favorite take on how it hunts Khezu

    • @PowerBalancetheKitsune
      @PowerBalancetheKitsune 2 роки тому +3

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel hey man. I made a reaction video to your Rathalos Rathian video. Please check it out plz

  • @ganonsbaker3026
    @ganonsbaker3026 2 роки тому +141

    The Rakna claw mentions being tough enough to pierce the hide of a Dragon, and knowing that they overlap territory with Teostra at least, I think it might be worth mentioning her adaptations to protect herself from Teo and other high power monsters in her area. As fearsome as a massive spider is, her young are still extreme vulnerable

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +61

      Whilst fire is a bit of an odd choice to defend yourself from teostra with, her size and weapons otherwise could keep him at bay. That'd be a hell of a turf war.

    • @bumberquest3031
      @bumberquest3031 2 роки тому +1

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel You're making miss turf wars even more

    • @TH3H3LLR41S3R
      @TH3H3LLR41S3R 2 роки тому +23

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel actually when you think about it fire might not be a horrible idea to defend from teostra. Cause teostra uses a explosive powder for alot of its attacks that it ignites to cause the explosive reaction. Rakna could use her fire to prematurely detonate the powder leaving teostra weaker and weaker as it struggles to keep up its high fire power it displays normally. And could be extended to when Lunastra helps with the powder production as we see in world when they combine together and grow stronger.

    • @dr.masiaka7048
      @dr.masiaka7048 2 роки тому +5

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel Living Toaster vs Empress spider.Anyways,apparently,Rakna are not native to the lava caverns,and Teostra is usually a volcano monster,and a desert monster second.Seregios does exist in the rise sandy plains,so maybe that flamethrower helps to keep predators like that at a safe distance.

    • @qualityqontent337
      @qualityqontent337 2 роки тому +5

      Teostra is one thing yes. But what about the other elder dragon that sometimes shows up in desert environments? Kushala Daora is not only known for having metallic tough hide but also for being very very weak to blast

  • @pokvirus5705
    @pokvirus5705 2 роки тому +143

    I wish they expanded these non-traditional monster categories - we need more diverse cast.

  • @antleymeese2147
    @antleymeese2147 2 роки тому +103

    Recently, when grinding up to sunbreak, I fought Rakna for the first time with a friend of mine who shares and surpasses my interest in ecology, and throughout the whole fight we were constantly in awe and laughing at the things it was doing. It has a neck, it can fully rotate it while breathing fire; it gets around by spider man web zipping by shooting out its offspring and zipping over to it. Everything was a very welcome surprise and I have to say that’s the most fun I’ve had fighting a new monster in a while, we both loved it so much

    • @moonpresence9707
      @moonpresence9707 2 роки тому +5

      Not sure of you're aware, but there's a real life spider with a retractable neck that the Rakna was likely based off of called the pelican spider. It's pretty cool

  • @lucasmendoza7576
    @lucasmendoza7576 2 роки тому +50

    I once learned that certain whip-tailed scorpions will live with and help their mother hunt during their early juvenile stages, so it could be that Rakna has evolved something similar.

  • @bluetextwhitebackground9585
    @bluetextwhitebackground9585 2 роки тому +149

    Bug monsters to me always felt like the coolest. In armor, the fight, the design of the monster, even roars as only Rakna and I think queen seltas have roars that make humans cover their ears. Hope you can cover Queen Seltas too, she always felt underrated.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +11

      The Worker Seltas looks like a mix of giant hornet and a beetle

    • @cliffwarden5934
      @cliffwarden5934 2 роки тому +13

      The bug armors always looked like they came right out of Kamen rider or power rangers

    • @squillamsquallace2468
      @squillamsquallace2468 2 роки тому +4

      All arthopod monsters are underrated

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 2 роки тому +2

      @@unicorntomboy9736 The Herkules Beetle in particular I would Immagine? Hm Im not sure, the Horn is a bit whide, more like the Shell of a Wanze.
      If its Hercules, I wouldnt be surprised, Bug Catching is very popular in Japan, and that one is a very rare big Beetle and as such very popular.

  • @Klinker0913
    @Klinker0913 2 роки тому +106

    As much as I love all the different wyverns we definitely need to expand the more insectoid/arthropod-like roster. A centipede or millipede based monster could be cool and I think that Akura Vashimu should come to the mainline games albeit toned down, but at the end of the day more invertebrates would be awesome

    • @johncronk8867
      @johncronk8867 2 роки тому +10

      That would be Murder to animate, especially with the supposed problems things like Leviathans are having right now.

    • @kurosan0079
      @kurosan0079 2 роки тому +1

      @@johncronk8867 It's been more than 4 years since World. Surely, they've finally figured it out, right? ...Right?

    • @ortah2616
      @ortah2616 2 роки тому

      @@kurosan0079 they've obviously figured it out

    • @quackquack5032
      @quackquack5032 2 місяці тому

      Boy do I have news for you 😊

  • @salamanderonduty9704
    @salamanderonduty9704 2 роки тому +35

    I have never heard of pelican spiders until this video. They're so bizarre and alien looking

  • @ExoskelletAnimation
    @ExoskelletAnimation 2 роки тому +68

    I love nercylla and respect Rakna a lot , what really amazes me is how they managed to take so much from spiders without triggering my arachnophobia , which is great , spiders are conceptually so cool but my brain doesn't want to hear it

    • @AutistiCat2406
      @AutistiCat2406 2 роки тому +2

      i assume this means we will never get an animation for the funny spiders then

    • @MH_MostWanted
      @MH_MostWanted Рік тому

      @@AutistiCat2406 There, there.

  • @samufinland5765
    @samufinland5765 2 роки тому +46

    I liked fighting rakna-kadaki, the monster looks like a spider at the start of the hunt but as you keep breaking its parts and provoking it, it starts to resemble something completely different.
    Like how it doesn't have an abdomen at all, and it's just an egg sac it's carrying with its additional limbs, how its head isn't actually part of a cephalothorax, and its merely just hiding its long neck and vulnerable head in the spider web, and how twisted its limbs look when you break the webs covering them.

  • @aidenhorne3981
    @aidenhorne3981 2 роки тому +106

    This theory might be unlikely due to the size of Nerscylla, but one way the species could have potentially moved from desert areas is by Ballooning. This is when small spiders and spiderlings send small web threads into the air to catch and ride the wind to new areas. This would have to assume Nerscylla spiderlings are astronomically small, but perhaps an odd wind in a forgiving temperature season allowed some desert Nerscylla or an ancestor to reach places like the Sunken Hollow. Also keep up the great content!

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +37

      It's certainly an interesting idea. Really we'd need to know how big Nerscylla hatchlings are, but either way it's a nice parallel.

    • @waywardwriterryu7185
      @waywardwriterryu7185 2 роки тому +13

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel I mean we know but it depends on how canon you find the MH movie to be.

    • @goli8699
      @goli8699 2 роки тому +7

      @@waywardwriterryu7185 What MH movie?

    • @joojidoes
      @joojidoes 2 роки тому

      @@waywardwriterryu7185 Fatalis literally canonized the movie smh.

    • @johncronk8867
      @johncronk8867 2 роки тому

      @@haydensmith4085 crowded desert ecosystem is an oxymoron. Now the local watering hole/oasis being jealously guarded by a Black Diablos or even a Gureadomosu if we go far back enough, that I can buy.

  • @junsengjs
    @junsengjs 2 роки тому +15

    Imo, Rakna was a missed opportunity for the developers to have a monster use its own equivalent of silkbug moves or even manipulating a hunter like how a hunter can manipulate a monster with silkbugs.
    It would change the dynamic, where you absolutely don't want to get Rakna close to another monster so it doesn't puppeteer that monster against you, and/or you have to stay aware of your teammates/palico/palamute as they might get puppeteered into attacking you, etc etc.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah heavily agreed. The one size fits dynamic new gameplay gimmicks have across all monsters gets dull fast.

  • @sharplosion1
    @sharplosion1 2 роки тому +43

    Very nice video as always. Glad to see the spiders get their time. One theory I have for Rakna, is that perhaps the males aren't much bigger than the Raknoids, if at all. I wouldn't be too surprised if one, or even multiple, male Rakna are actually a part of Rakna's little hoard. They might perhaps even do this specifically to avoid being eaten like the young, and then mate when they get the chance. Male Rakna with this theory might also eat the actual young, as well as each other, to lessen competition for that specific Rakna.
    And thanks for that shout out! It actually reminded me, I have potential evidence to support the claim that Shagaru eats little compared to Gore.
    And that evidence is in the tail. If you look at the tails, Gore's is pretty small and slender. Shagaru, meanwhile, has a very noticeable girth at the base of it. This is noticeable both in the old and new models. So, this wide tail might actually be a form of fat reserves that was built up during the Gore stage of life, similar to some lizards. Shagaru pulls from this reserve so it can primarily focus on reproduction.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому

      I hope UHC does Nargacuga next

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +22

      IIRC in the Rise book it does say male Rakna just stay as Raknas permanently effectively, although I don't know if they just live on the females and fertilise them or if they wander by themselves.
      Good points too - that also fits quite nicely as well with animals that undergo some metamorphosis.

  • @zyvan3179
    @zyvan3179 2 роки тому +21

    Rakna Kadaki is probably my favorite new monster in Rise. I love the webbing all over it and that it uses the little ones to move around. I'd really like more spider like monsters in general. I'm hoping with a modern spider skeleton we can get more later. If not in Rise title updates in the next game

  • @weaversong4377
    @weaversong4377 2 роки тому +32

    I love Nerscylla, it’s one of those monsters that just has so much personality behind it. Even it’s twitching when it dies is a really nice detail. I wish Rakna Twitched but unfortunately she does not.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +7

      I love how it sounds like a spider should. It has a very distinctive screech

    • @Ixs4i
      @Ixs4i 2 роки тому +4

      rakna does twitch when downed though

    • @weaversong4377
      @weaversong4377 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ixs4i It’s not like a spider twitch though, it’s moreso just how any other monster would scrape at the ground trying to get up.

  • @namealreadytaken7116
    @namealreadytaken7116 2 роки тому +52

    We need more insect monsters the only other insects other then the spiders are ahtal ka and vespoid queen a Mantis monster could work.Forget to mention seltas queen and seltas

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +45

      Mantids, dragonflies, stag beetles, scorpions...the list of buggies that could come to MH is endless!

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +2

      What about a giant Ant monster?

    • @aasminecrafter
      @aasminecrafter 2 роки тому +12

      @@unicorntomboy9736 Altaroth Queen, perhaps?

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +8

      @@aasminecrafter That could work. Although I was thinking of basing it off the real life Bullet Ant or Bulldog Ant

    • @juanisol8275
      @juanisol8275 2 роки тому +6

      Or also Centepides boas size, trilobites facehuggers and a Locust or Bees swarn like one being too!! 🤩👍

  • @romeobelisario3190
    @romeobelisario3190 2 роки тому +11

    I’d love to see a video that tackles Geophagous Monsters like Gravios and Uraagan, monsters whose primary diet consists of ores, rocks, carrion for Gravios, and vegetation for Uragaan.
    Animals that eat mostly earth and minerals is a surprising mainstay of sci fi, and I’d love to see your take on it.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +6

      I do hope to get around to Gravios / basarios someday - they'll be tough though!

  • @alligatoreamericano3520
    @alligatoreamericano3520 2 роки тому +35

    19:05 I think that to do nercylla (as well as many other monsters) justice, the games should introduce more monster interaction mechanics aside from just turf wars, including straight up predation. We've got a bit of that in world with deviljho killing and consuming low tier monsters but it was pretty much tied to him exclusively which is kinda bullshit if you ask me, if jho can kill and eat kulu, why can't seregios, the raths or anjanath?
    I think nercylla would be one of the monsters taking the most benefits from it: just imagine if murdering and consuming Gypceros mid hunt (though the skinning part may be a little complicated but you can hide the gore with some web), that would probably be one of the best monster hunter moments ever! Of course I don't think such mechanics are coming anytime soon but a man can dream...

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +17

      I'd love this too, although I think Capcom are a bit hesitant to add gore and graphic violence into the games. Monsters eating each other may fall into that, esp with nerscylla.

    • @alligatoreamericano3520
      @alligatoreamericano3520 2 роки тому +6

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel I mean, they can just remove the blood, they've got no problem showing the monsters' flesh when we cut the tails, I think big chunks of meat or slices of skin would work just fine

    • @Mr_Fish10
      @Mr_Fish10 2 роки тому +13

      They have small monster predation (in World) and show it without gore, they can make it work.
      I also agree with adding some downright predation but with smaller monsters of course. More interactions like the Seltas and Queen Seltas would be amazing.

    • @5raptorboy1
      @5raptorboy1 2 роки тому +4

      I think part of the problem is that mid hunt you might just have another monster come in and kill what you were hunting lol

    • @johncronk8867
      @johncronk8867 2 роки тому +3

      @@5raptorboy1 just have the behavior disabled while you’re hunting the prey item. Perhaps you’d need to deal a certain amount of damage or hunt it long enough for predation to be disabled in Expeditions.

  • @regularbricksstudios1109
    @regularbricksstudios1109 2 роки тому +52

    I like to think that there is some kind of “stranded” Khezu population in small cave systems found in the desert areas, where Shrouded Nerscylla lives, this could explain why these Temnocerans are seen wearing Khezu skin in the desert
    I don’t particularly like the Monster Hunter movie but I did find the concept of Nerscylla nesting in burrows underneath the sand of deserts interesting, so if this concept is considered canon it could explain why Shrouded Nerscylla can come across Khezu in the desert cave systems…
    Probably the bug prefers to wear the skin of large prey rather than collect the skin of smaller prey items like genprey; I just theorise that the paralysis ailment comes from a constant diet of genprey once they’re out of the caves they grew in (just like how congas are able to obtain the ailment of the shroom they consume)

    • @jonywilliams9522
      @jonywilliams9522 2 роки тому +3

      Not to mention they are probably only smart enough to skin prey, but not smart enough to make patch leather

  • @ViralN9
    @ViralN9 2 роки тому +22

    One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention in regards to the corpse camouflage and preferred pray with nerscylla is how the skins it wears help mitigate the "common" nerscylla's aversion to electrical shocks and the shrouded nerscylla's aversion to intense cold.

  • @hiddenchinrollingwyvern714
    @hiddenchinrollingwyvern714 2 роки тому +19

    Temnocerans are certainly worthy of exploration in future games, Bolas-spiders, Diving spiders and Ogre-faces spiders all have unique usage of their silk in ways that Could potential work amazing in MH. Silk strength in these Temnocerans/Athal Kha, is likely something extraordinary as well, given that they can be used to restrict monsters and be used as rope holding/pulling the full weight of the animals in question. Great video as always.

    • @wigglerrave4020
      @wigglerrave4020 Рік тому

      How ‘bout a jumping spider? Pouncing lightning-fast and bounding off the walls to attack.

    • @automato436
      @automato436 Рік тому

      @@wigglerrave4020 that's the marionette and puppet spider, rater have them as pets in MH6 lol

  • @genocidegames8423
    @genocidegames8423 2 роки тому +1

    I should point out the Rakna-Kadaki, whose uses the fire element and is based on the spider hunting pelican spider, might be a hunter of Nerscylla as the latter has a weakness to fire and Shrouded Nerscylla (who still has a fire weakness) at least tends to live in desert environments like Rakna.

  • @conwaysquest6961
    @conwaysquest6961 2 роки тому +1

    The existence of Puppet and Marionette spiders implies that there are Tarantula-size temnoceran-like creatures.

  • @kruaser123
    @kruaser123 2 роки тому +1

    i would like to mention one thing about rakna i think gets ironically overlooked. the giant orange egg sack seems to imply that it is a giant sac of kerosine or butane. that actually makes a bizarre amount of sense considering how her fire is often referred to as a torch and her very bizarre flamethrower patterns. One of her main habitats is the volcano where coal is found and typically oil derivative deposits of petroleum are also present around coal. which is one of the main ingredients of kerosine and butane. it may very well be that she sends many of her young to collect petroleum and return to her to add to her reservoir. thus increasing the defensive and offensive capabilities of the mother and in turn the offspring.

  • @DavidGomez-ls6ee
    @DavidGomez-ls6ee 2 роки тому +9

    i love these two. they're such good fights. Especially Rakna-Kadachi who was really needed in rise due to it's lack of difficulty her subspecies is also great. Plus I feel bad for Nerscylla she was done dirty in the MH movie.

  • @ravingdeath5182
    @ravingdeath5182 2 роки тому +8

    OMG! I’ve wanted to see a video on this for a while. Im sure it’s gonna be great!

  • @biggarlick6673
    @biggarlick6673 2 місяці тому +1

    Revisiting this video with the recent reveal of a new Temnoceran, Lala-Barina for Wilds, looking forward to seeing coverage on the Wilds roster in the future as so far they have all had very interesting designs!

  • @walkerpierce5446
    @walkerpierce5446 2 роки тому +1

    Another thing to consider about nercylla is that the hide covering bolsters elemental defenses for the nercylla so I personally think that many be part of it as well.

  • @notthebest2968
    @notthebest2968 2 роки тому +3

    One thing you forgot to mention is how Rakna uses her web as armor and that her thorax(I think that what its called) is made to function like a house for the raknoids using her webs as walls.

  • @moonmelons
    @moonmelons 2 роки тому +2

    I think it's also worth considering for Rakna that the children getting involved in their mothers hunts could also provide them valuable experience for when they grow up. So while juvenile Rakna's may have a higher fatality rate because of this behavior, those that do survive are more successful because of it.

  • @DankMadness12
    @DankMadness12 2 роки тому +26

    Saw that you haven't uploaded in 2 weeks and knew that was the usual period between videos. Glad you finally cover the Giant Enemy Spiders, one of my favorite monster classifications. Also how have you been enjoying Sunbreak so far? (If you're playing it, that is)

  • @CreamIc7
    @CreamIc7 2 роки тому +9

    I've always assumed that nersyla Idc about spelling wears the skin because she is weak to electric attacks and uses it as armor

  • @hexacockadrom_7898
    @hexacockadrom_7898 2 роки тому +5

    I find it very interesting whenever you're pinned by a Nerscylla in game, it is stops and hesitates before acting as it is used to checking for dead Gyp, it's a nice touch to give an idea of their hunting routines. Also fantastic work on the video! :)

  • @somedude2468
    @somedude2468 2 роки тому +5

    I want a tarantula temnoceran. A spider that relies on strength, armor, and size rather than toxin, webbing, and speed.

    • @mayomayo1647
      @mayomayo1647 Місяць тому

      Seltas Queen

    • @somedude2468
      @somedude2468 Місяць тому

      @@mayomayo1647 u right but can she have 8 legs

  • @Xelemend9393
    @Xelemend9393 2 роки тому +2

    Technically, we as hunters also employ corpse camoflauge

  • @prawn1717
    @prawn1717 2 роки тому +18

    As with the crabs, for how few members the Temnoceran family has it's really amazing to see how diverse in personality, fighting style and design Capcom was able to make them. Nerscylla is pretty handily my favorite monster out of fourth gen, though Nakarkos and Astalos creep their way up from time to time as well. The personality it displays is so impressive, the web swinging, the caution when approaching you, the crazy tripping animation, fantastic stuff really. Rakna is also possibly my favorite design out of fifth gen, which is crazy considering how much I dislike most of Rise's designs compared to World's. I love the departure from the jumping spider/antlion crossover that was Nerscylla into a walking tank, complete with artillery and crew. I actually wasn't at all sure what she preyed on, but the Delex theory totally makes sense, and could easily be adapted into an Uroktor diet in the Lava Caverns.
    Speaking of, I do love World but the lack of species diversity really hurts its replay value. To be fair to the game, I get that they had to focus more on reimagining the series for current consoles but Iceborne was their chance to add in some truly amazing new/returning designs and they went with very safe options instead (Gammoth not being in Iceborne is a fucking crime). Idk, it just doesn't sit right with me, and it makes me sad to have to choose a different game to play if I want to fight a Temnoceran, Snake Wyvern, Carapaceon or Neopteron. I dearly hope gen 6 will be the mainline game that diversifies a modern roster while retaining the ecological focus of World that I love. Fantastic video as always!

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +7

      I think World does a lot with the skeletons it has, but does lack animation skeletons in general. But as you say it's clear why. For the most part I agree, and hopefully 6 will have a diverse roster - and thanks!

    • @prawn1717
      @prawn1717 2 роки тому +4

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel For sure, it's very reminiscent of MH1 and how much coverage they got out of one skeleton type, which is fitting considering it was basically a soft reboot of the series. Sunbreak was great, but MH6 is really where my sights are set for the moment.

    • @prawn1717
      @prawn1717 2 роки тому

      Sounds like Tetranadon's up next! One of the best Rise has to offer :)

  • @jameswilliams2075
    @jameswilliams2075 2 роки тому +3

    I would realy love to see a cutscene where nersyla just beats a gypseros or khezu into the ground over and over.

  • @CaptainChelo
    @CaptainChelo 2 роки тому +1

    I just subscribed after I realize how many layers of information you apply on your videos, honestly I do love MH creature design due to how they try to reach a balance of being fantastical yet still trying to be grounded enough to think this creatures could exist in an actual ecosystem.
    Honestly, the way you deconstruct the monsters to branch in so many topics makes your videos such a good listen when I'm at work. I do like the fact that using this kind of fantasticals creatures as a base of your videos, give you a variatie of topics to talk instead of focusing in a single one, it also makes me apreciate the designs of the monsters even more cause it brings to light the ammount of effort behind it's design.
    If I could make a suggestion or request for future videos, I would love to see you attempt to create your own monster with this methodology of yours, like thinking first about the monster place in the world and the fight second. Maybe even add a voting for a criteria of species to make it easy to narrow it down what to make.
    Either way, love the content and look forwards to catch up to all of your videos.

  • @Coffee-Sorcerer
    @Coffee-Sorcerer 2 роки тому +1

    Just when I thought spiders couldnt be anymore weird and terrifying. THE HELL IS A PELICAN SPIDER O MY GOD!!! :0

  • @manusiabumi7673
    @manusiabumi7673 2 роки тому +3

    Could creatures like scavantulas, vaporonids, puppet spiders and marionette spiders possibly be the "spider-sized temnocerans" you mentioned here?

  • @m.s.e.advanced2842
    @m.s.e.advanced2842 2 роки тому +6

    A small but very unique and fun family of monsters

  • @scorpiopede
    @scorpiopede 2 роки тому +12

    A fantastic video, these are two of my favorites and their complex behavior, unique fights, and fantastic designs all play into each other really well. The note of Rakna 'fishing' for sand-swimmers is an interesting one since very little seems to be specialized in hunting these sorts of prey items, Nibbelsnarf being the the most noteworthy one I can think of, and it also makes me wonder if Rakna in the volcanic regions do something similar but with Uroktor instead.
    On the topic of Rakna, what are your thoughts on Pyre since you mentioned her briefly? Do you see her as a proper subspecies or a potential variant like with Shrouded Nerscylla given they have some environmental overlap, and how they could potentially avoid competition in these shared envrionments?

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +13

      I think Pyre is decent. Not the biggest change really, but I'll take a logical element swap / upgrade, subtle design changes and a few new moves over 'lmao it has ice now!!!' subspecies anyday.
      I think Pyre may well be a genuine subspecies though, and is the true volcano spider whereas base-rakna apparently is only there due to being displaced in the Rampage.

    • @scorpiopede
      @scorpiopede 2 роки тому +2

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel I was not aware that it being in the volcano was due to the displacement, so I take it Pyre being in the Citadel is either a wider range or due to the displacement occurring due to the Qurio.

  • @indomleon
    @indomleon 2 роки тому +1

    It seems that both breeds of Nerscylla choose prey with rubbery skin, so I bet that the skin is for direct physical defense, especially since it has different elemental resistances. Having an extra layer of rubbery skin on top of you can also provide some defense from the elements, as well as saving you from a grapple, like the skin of a honey badger

  • @Voc_spooksauce
    @Voc_spooksauce 2 роки тому +1

    Love your videos man! The explanations on how they could actually work, your description for where the design came from and your opinions on each monsters are always interesting.
    Thanks for the quality content as usual, cheers from Brazil :>

  • @guillermogonzalez3696
    @guillermogonzalez3696 2 роки тому +2

    Now this is one I was definitely looking forward to. Nerscylla absolutely deserves more attention and she would be great in maps with world's level of interaction. If you could fall into her traps be it sandy ones or just webs and have them trigger the start of the fight in a different way, that'd be peak momster hunter. And if we had different versions depending on her prey... One can only dream. Great video as always!
    P.S. The part of these videos I enjoy the most is the speculative behaviors and traits assigned to monsters in correlation with similar existing animals. This is kind of a bold proposal, but having drawn some of them in the past myself, I would be absolutely thrilled to provide some for your videos.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +1

      I think of all monsters, Nercylla should have a rival/enemy relationship with Astalos. I think Astalos should be the main predator of Nercylla, similar to Tarantula Hawk Wasps and Tarantulas in real life.

  • @aaa1e2r3
    @aaa1e2r3 2 роки тому +5

    Would love to see you do a vid on the Carapaceons, be it Daimyo and Shogun or some of the Scorpion Carapaceons from Frontier.

  • @tdthedevilsrighthand712
    @tdthedevilsrighthand712 2 роки тому +4

    I'd say in a sense Carapaceons are probably related to Temnocerans, thanks in part of possessing six legs instead of the usual number for their true crab counterparts, some members possessing pincers near identical to temno claws like Shogun, and one member of the grouping possibly serving as an evolutionary link between the two in the form of Baelidae (an MHO monster), who despite being a carapaceon shares a spider-like appearance and can produce webbing.
    They even share the behavior of ultizing dead monster parts as natural defence, although the Temnocerans kill the prey they use as their armor while Carapaceons simply scavenge for them. Then again, this can all be convergent evolution talking.

  • @ProTobigen
    @ProTobigen 2 роки тому

    I discovered you relatively recently, and have been binging and rewatching. So excited for a new vid!

  • @aaa1e2r3
    @aaa1e2r3 2 роки тому +3

    My take on why they went with Khezu instead of Gendrome is that like Gypceros, it provides Nerscylla a protection against Electricity, implying that it's primary predator is one that uses the electric element. This may also be why they dropped the concept of the Kecha pelt since that would have contradicted this premise. Considering its habitats in game, my guess is that it's likely Astalos being a primary predator of the Nerscylla;

  • @i2eptilian
    @i2eptilian 2 роки тому +2

    I just want more arthropod monsters, honestly. Was very sad that world didn't have any, I think they're really cool.

  • @LucentMoonlight
    @LucentMoonlight 2 роки тому +10

    Great video. The spider monsters are really cool. Can you do A video on Espinas next? Since he's canon now it would be great to see how such a bulky creature needs such potent poison.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  2 роки тому +9

      Not next - but at somepoint!

    • @DTDplays
      @DTDplays 2 роки тому +1

      Iirc, their ancestors fought Elder Dragons and they are mentioned to fight Kushala Daora in the ancient times. The poison is probably an adaptation to disable the black winds of Kushala?

  • @PoorHub
    @PoorHub 2 роки тому +1

    I believe the hermitaur/ceantaur maybe distantly related to the “pseudo arachnids”. In our own world crustaceans share ancestors with spiders since both Families have 8 legs.
    In monster hunter both the Carapaceons and Temnoceron (excuse me if I spelt that wrong) have 6 legs. Particularly 4 legs and 2 claws/manipulator limbs. This can be further backed up when literally all the Monsters in the Carapaceon and Temnoceron can spit some kind of projectile from the mouth or back side.

  • @sawcon3840
    @sawcon3840 2 роки тому +3

    Crabs next please. The crabs are my favorite monsters of any gen.

    • @sawcon3840
      @sawcon3840 2 роки тому

      Great video too, perfect timing. Fun video to listen to at work.

  • @mr.cobbweb1624
    @mr.cobbweb1624 2 роки тому +3

    I love the Seltas, Seltas Queen, Nerscylla and Rakna with how unique their morphology is compared to all of the other monsters.
    For the same reason I also like the crabos like Damyo and Shogun (and let's not forget Shen Gaoren).
    Actually, with how Rise broguht those two crabos back I was expecting that they would add a new crabo. Yet again, despite Rakna being there, Nercylla hasn't made a return in Sunbreak (a great missopportunity considering the Citadel's aesthetics and the general european folklore theming it has, for the same reason I'll also throw poor Malfestio here).

    • @Abobus101
      @Abobus101 2 роки тому

      I also think Banbaro would feel at home in the Citadel, too bad he isn't there

  • @theneef174
    @theneef174 2 роки тому +1

    I always assumed nercylla used the skin of it's prey for scent reasons.
    Not because of a preadayor, but because of the investigative nature of creatures. Like when you see deer investigating a dead deer.

  • @touremuhammad5983
    @touremuhammad5983 2 роки тому +1

    I love how you said that Nerscylla goes Buffalo-Bill on her prey!! 😂😂

  • @talion2226
    @talion2226 2 роки тому

    I really love rakna and pyre-rakna, both are amazing monsters and very cool but i still love the personality that nercylla shows when it sleeps you

  • @erikagaming1439
    @erikagaming1439 2 роки тому +3

    It really is such a shame that Narscylla isn't at least in Sunbreak.

  • @bessa_0860
    @bessa_0860 3 місяці тому

    Welcome back, Temnocerans. Hope in the future Lala Barina gets it's own video.

  • @Mr_Mouthington
    @Mr_Mouthington 2 роки тому +1

    One thing to point out that potentially nerscylla in areas that don’t have any Gypceros or Khezu will wear other pelts from other monsters, like from Iodrome and gendromes in the Monster Hunter 4 Guidebook if I can remember

  • @apeprick5530
    @apeprick5530 2 роки тому +4

    top tier content as always. UHC the GOAT 🙏🙏🙏

  • @MichaelZesty
    @MichaelZesty 2 роки тому

    I'm so sad that I've watched all of your videos already! It's been a real treat. Speculative evolution and behavioral observation are imo some of the most fascinating and immersive aspects of monster hunter, and I'd love a game or installment that continued to develop on it, even seeing small interactions like dung beetles using monster dung to cultivate a garden blew me away, its so neat and just makes the game feel so much more alive.
    Can't wait to see your next vid ^^ Keep it up!

    • @MichaelZesty
      @MichaelZesty 2 роки тому

      Also spiders have some of THE most interesting adaptations and behaviors, I'd love to see one perform ballooning to migrate, overall arachnoids need some love!

  • @miquelescribanoivars5049
    @miquelescribanoivars5049 2 роки тому +2

    So the comment in Yggdrasil's podcast was a clue!

  • @richardoc7294
    @richardoc7294 2 роки тому

    Your videos are so great , Only discovered them a few days ago and I’m eating them up. Very interesting and educational for real world stuff . Feel like I’m watching a real work documentary and a gaming video at the same time.keep up the great work!

  • @tannerq8900
    @tannerq8900 2 роки тому

    All the big monsters have been my favorite monsters. The fights how they move and the designs of the armor and weapons. All of it. And we've even gotten a bug as the end game monster which makes me extremely happy. Idk that's all I have is I extremely enjoy what these monsters bring to the game

  • @edryu9688
    @edryu9688 2 роки тому

    This video just came out while I'm on a plane trip, and has helped calm my flight anxiety. Here's hoping the temnoceran group will expand as more games come out.

  • @tyreselee7454
    @tyreselee7454 2 роки тому +2

    Loving the vids, I surprised Namielle hasn’t been mentioned, as one of the most inspired elder dragons

  • @uohhhhhh69
    @uohhhhhh69 2 роки тому

    Thank you lord, I love your videos so much. I can't get enough of it!

  • @sups9276
    @sups9276 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to see a monster ecology on the careapaceans

  • @MagicianFairy
    @MagicianFairy 2 роки тому

    Came for the Monster Hunter. Stayed for the education. Can't wait to hear you cover the "owls" (coohoots/Malfiesto) in a future video.

  • @tagmata1872
    @tagmata1872 2 роки тому

    I just found your channel 4 days ago and I absolutely love your channel! I’ve already binged pretty much all your content lmao keep it up hopefully more people find this.

  • @Kerbtree
    @Kerbtree 2 роки тому +1

    The scent thing's got to be right - would you want to deal with something as annoying as a Gypceros, if you had the option of eating literally *anything* else?

  • @bumberquest3031
    @bumberquest3031 2 роки тому

    These guys are some if my favorites! Arthropods are always so varied in behavior and body types that there are a slew of inspirations to make monsters out of. Honestly for how fast a Zamite can grow in size and develop limbs, I would love to see some sort of Larval monster you fight that undergoes metamorphosis mid fight, or sheds it's skin something similar to a cicada.

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner 2 роки тому

    Nerscylla is one of my favorite monsters, almost entirely because I soloed the hell out of her in 4 to get her full armor set and parts for an SnS.
    I love her design and her fight and I desperately want her in a modern game getting the World treatment, because she fits so naturally into a game like that

  • @joshualighttime604
    @joshualighttime604 2 роки тому

    Honestly my favorite species of monsters and possibly the most realistic ones out of the whole roster

  • @plantsoup6456
    @plantsoup6456 2 роки тому +1

    I have a theory that Shrouded Nerscylla was originally meant for the Frozen Seaway but at some point changed in development. Her being in the ice caves would explain how she gets Khezu hide and the ability to swing from the ceiling, when neither of those things are present in the desert map.

  • @steelwixom5502
    @steelwixom5502 2 роки тому

    I love the temnocerans and i hope we see more in the future like maybe a temnoceran that uses thunder or bleed.

  • @Undamagedaddyk
    @Undamagedaddyk 2 роки тому +1

    It's worth noting the wiki claims Rakna has eight legs. This is actually wrong, as they erroneously attribute Rakna's pedipalps to being legs. Pedipalps are not typically used for locomotion, and thus for the sake of accuracy, they should not be considered legs.
    Don't think you're getting off easy though because - by the same token - Nerscylla only has four legs.
    (Great video, btw. Rakna-Kadaki is my favourite monster in Rise by a country mile, so it's nice to see it get some love.)

  • @vincentpey3929
    @vincentpey3929 2 роки тому +1

    We need more large monster spiders/arthropods imagine a giant centipede monster, or a dungbeetle like monster

  • @soltheshinydrifblim7183
    @soltheshinydrifblim7183 2 роки тому

    I found this channel a few days ago, and I'm loving watching these videos.
    I would love to see a video on Espinas, because I think he has a lot of interesting relationships with several creatures (eg. Poisontoads, Kushala Daora) as well as interesting habits (Constant sleeping) and unique weaponry (Toxic fireballs).

  • @Bob-vx6qd
    @Bob-vx6qd 2 роки тому

    Shrouded nerscylla's behaviour reminds me me a lot of spiders in the desert (can't remember which species). These spiders would construct a web net with stones and use it as a blanket to shield them against extreme heat but will also use them as a tool to ambush prey that walks over them. Shrouded nerscylla seems to be an animal that tries to avoid extreme heat since it is most active at night and has probably learned to bury itself for the same reason as well as a predation tactic. On top of the other reasons people in the comments have pointed out, it may wear the hides of khezu so that it can remain insulated and active in the extreme cold during such hours, since khezu usually live in extreme cold environments.

  • @xeruexe1624
    @xeruexe1624 2 роки тому

    Great content as usual. I can't wait for you to touch on Sunbreak materials, as they have a lot of ecological and biological mysteries going on. I think it also has the first instance of monsters affecting the health of humans outside of the game play aspect as well.

  • @bignelly9476
    @bignelly9476 2 роки тому

    I do love the ant lion analogy and how she’s better at handling the cold then first thought witch is how she probably encountered kezu. I’ll be off to university soon to study biology and environmental science so this channel has become even more interesting to me keep up the good work. If you take recommendations I’d love to see a episode on Banbaro and Durambrous as they are both brutes that use there unique head gear to traverse and manipulate there environments.

  • @antiradiationsnowy1536
    @antiradiationsnowy1536 2 роки тому

    I couldn't help but notice that you didn't add images of any real spiders other than the pelican one, which happens to be less triggering to most arachnophobics.
    I personally don't suffer from it but one of my siblings suffered greatly when confronted with spiders so I really appreciate it.

  • @killotronjedi705
    @killotronjedi705 2 роки тому +1

    As for a predator that hunts necscylla, brachydios lives in some similar areas, and I imagine a good blunt strike or explosion would leave nerc's hard shell open and the innards exposed. Just an idea.

  • @Ugu427
    @Ugu427 2 роки тому

    Nice, I discovered this channel recently and thought how I would love you to talk about these two.
    I hope Seltas Queen gets covered someday :)

  • @chancegivens9390
    @chancegivens9390 2 роки тому

    Another good video! I love all the little details with ... everything!

  • @mudshrooze
    @mudshrooze 2 роки тому

    These alwaysake me happy and full of new knowledge. Little thing I'd like to say is their are actually a lot of ant lions in texas

  • @Pardot_
    @Pardot_ 2 роки тому

    OH sick, I was debating asking for this video. Nerscylla is a personal favorite of mine.

  • @Nijonibi
    @Nijonibi 2 роки тому

    12:38 This would make sence as Rakna can be found in places with these piscine wyverns, and borrowing leviathans such as cephalos, delex and uroktor.

  • @defalttheloner
    @defalttheloner 2 роки тому

    Something I aways wondered about since I was a kid is if all calories sources in this world are way more dense than ours, it would imply that said creatures would be able to be big without the need for multiple hunts in the course of a week.
    I would love to see someone who understands better about it talking about the possibilities.

  • @chunkykong01
    @chunkykong01 2 роки тому

    Ah you always strike when I'm drawing and I can never complain

  • @thomaseasley2938
    @thomaseasley2938 2 роки тому +1

    You know, I was thinking, perhaps green nargacuga is amongst the monsters where the type species is actually an aberration. I recall there being a population of leopards where melanistic individuals outnumber normal individuals. Perhaps nargacuga is an example of a similar phenomenon taken to an extreme

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 2 роки тому

      Considering the Green coloring could be the original camouflage this seems like an interesting thought

  • @PetalousPanoply
    @PetalousPanoply 2 роки тому +1

    Very good video as always. Love this channel. Also, if you don't mind me asking, which weapon do you main?

  • @hawkevery
    @hawkevery 2 роки тому +1

    I just wish that Rakna would have some turf wars in sunbreak.

  • @apeprick5530
    @apeprick5530 2 роки тому

    unnatural history channel gonna make me switch career paths ong