Why the CCP supposedly hates this London piano
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2024
- The St Pancras piano has sparked quite the new story
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Hey you reading the description. What you up to? So I don't normally upload in between Sundays, but thought this was an interesting way to talk about photography laws. I don't think I'll make too many videos similar to this in the future as after putting in all the work of creating this, I'd rather not veer into content that could even slightly be viewed as... drama? But I still thought it was an interesting conversation nonetheless so... extra video it is!
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I prefer Proton personally.
I'm sorry but CCP members asking for privacy is beyond ironic
Especially when one of the women in the video is on trial in China for copyright breaking
@@Trek001 how hard do you have to fuck up for copyright violation in *_CHINA???_*
If they don't want to stick out, maybe don't wave flags?? 🤷🏻♀️ Hey, whatever. 😂
Especially when Christine Lee; a known CCP spy can be seen with them.
@@Trek001And another one of them is a known Chinese government spy.
Law enforcement officers not knowing the law is an unfortunate reality across the world.
A policeman/woman walking up to you and telling you to stop XXXXX IS legal ... they are under zero legal liability to tell you the truth **until** you are under arrest - and my guess is she damn well knew it was legal to film - but tries that on to see if it works - IF she attempted to physically force the issue- that's different
They don't need to know the law. Their job is to intimidate people into submission.
Yes. And bank clerks not knowing banking rules.
ive seen the video the police woman doesnt tell him he cant film but asks if he wont record their chat for youtube, before ultimately having the chat on his camera anyway. the reason she didnt want that is because he was playing everything up for the camera. and thye understood the law because her partners first things he said to the people he had the dispute with was "hes in a public place he is allowed to film"
@@arbee1958is that UK law.
I heard something about the US police being allowed to lie to people but the UK police aren't but I'm unsure of the specifics of that
Credit to the Police officer who turned up and immediately stated filming in a public space is fine. The other officer though... embarrassing.
Dr.K makes videos for profit; it's reasonable to ask him to delete someone else from his video.
@@EC-tz4us To be honest, if it was me that they asked to delete the video, I would have just politely agreed and cut them in post production of the VOD however they would still be in the livestream anyway. It's not unreasonable to ask but you can't enforce it with any legal or socially acceptable power because he's not doing anything wrong and well within his rights to do what he did. I might not do the same thing but I will gladly defend him because he has that right.
@@EC-tz4usIt is reasonable yes, but it is not unreasonable for him to keep the video anyway. It only concerns the aspect of commercial release, and at the start they were in the background so no issues apart from when Brendan talked directly on camera to one of them.
We are also talking about a livestream here. How those rules on commercial release apply to a live stream would be interesting considering in such an event it would be unreasonable to expect Brendan to edit out faces whilst live.
@@dlarge6502 forcing pedestrians into a commercial livestream is very offensive
@@EC-tz4us Forcing kindergarten-aged children in China to hate the West is far more offensive.
'Don't film me!"
*walks directly into frame*
'Don't film me!!!"
*stays in frame for literal minutes*
Also, to be clear, in St Pancras most people do walk on the side that was being filmed but the visibility to the piano is very clear, if you absolutely under no circumstance want to be filmed the area behind where the camera was is open and has fewer people making it even clearer for you to walk to. If you are walking towards the exit into frame, you can see through the glass that they were filming while also still being out of shot. If people must be entirely out of shot, it can be avoided both ways, people are often filming and filming in that direction, so if you are that kind of person you know to walk on the other side.
I was in St Pancras while the piano was closed, and my wife who plays was expecting to get a little play in which was disappointing. That piano is iconic, and I think it reflects a part of being British, it's not misused, it's not broken, and it's actually played, often you'll walk through and for someone to be playing it and it is really nice. Set up a piano in a US station and before it's broken beyond repair you'll have people mashing the keys making an awful sound, but on the other end of the spectrum if you set it up in a German station it will survive fine but because not many people are going to play it because they don't want to disturb others even if it being there is an invitation to play. The UK sits in a cultural position where it will be used and it won't be misused, it feels like other countries are off from that and where a public piano is a bad idea.
The fact that some Chinese people got something I would consider British barriered is significant.
I know that the Chinese people weren't just passing through, they wanted access to the piano, they wanted access to film... behind the piano is glass and lots of people walking past, they were going to film people and it was for a foreign language thing which that alone people feel iffy about if they can't then listen and find out what they have just been filmed for (Chinese people knew they were putting themselves in frame for someone playing a piano, not really a language barrier), but for it to then be Chinese is a whole other level.
I’m a designer and I take pictures all the time around London, on the Bus, on the Tube for ideas etc. I had a similar encounter with a few Foreign people asking me ‘Were they in my photo?’ This is when they have been walking past into my shot in a busy tube station, I said I don’t know I’m just taking shots for a project, they then started to ask me if they could look through my iPad and if they were can I delete it, I lost my rag and told them 🤬 off! 🤷🏾🤦🏾♂️
When the man randomly yelled, the world laughed in unison at Communist China.When the lady lied about the live stream, the world laughed even harder.
When Dr K. showed Winnie the Pooh, the whole world laughed at Xi Jinping, as the likeness is unmistakable.
It doesn't look random, it looks like an exercise in provocation.
@@PsychicLord How can people even tell the difference? I was under the impression that he was holding a Xi Jinping portrait to apologize.
Smog smog- spot on!😂
😂😂😂 FACTS
It's ridiculous. They walked into the shot, insisted on staying within range of the camera, STUCK THEIR FACES in the camers, and then threw a tantrum over being filmed?? Why was anyone taking them seriously?
The one girl never took her eyes off the camera
Its because the ones blocking the camera with their faces are hiding the older woman behind them who is a known ccp 'diplomat' (read: spy).
I guess they confidently(incorrectly) assumed that it wouldn't matter if they were on camera or not, because they would be able to bully the cameraman into deleting the footage. Pity for them it was a livestream and they were wrong.
The first instance of the shot was when the camera turned to their direction after the youtuber pointed to them. By that time it was too late as their image was instantly captured. While the camera faced her and the youtuber gestured, she then approached to gesture back.
My thoughts exactly!
After a message to Sir Elton John asking him what he thought of the piano being held hostage and when word got back Elton had been notified the piano was miraculously freed 👏
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The old woman had previously been named as a CCP spy by MI5. I remember it happening about 10 years ago.
This policewoman needs to be put on suspension and schooled on rights and freedoms.
So does half of the UK government who seems more intent to please foreigners than protect their own citizens
But then what did people expect when they voted for Sadiq Khan?
The policewoman can tell you to stand on one leg and sing "moon River" ... you are under no obligation to do it - and she's not under any obligation to tell you the truth... OR give you free legal advice - so Know your rights LOL
@@arbee1958 I was not aware that she had the right to tell you that you don't have the rights you do have. That seems a bit strange given her position of authority.
@@bjornskividsThe main downside of this incident is that it has brought the bigots out of the woodwork.
@@arbee1958 you must be Chinese
Those people should be told: "If you don't want your face to be shown in the video, simply don't stop in front of the camera. Nobody will notice you if you just walk fast. And maybe hide that red flag somewhere if you really don't want to be noticed.
"If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao,ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow".
The funny thing is in another video, they walked into the frames themselves, knowing that the camera was on. 😅
The guy yelling should have been told if he doesn’t want his image online he should delete his own 2 UA-cam channels. He has now set them to made for kids to block comments and thumbs down. Not one of the videos is for kids.
@@santaerikclausNewton Leng??
As they were telling Brendan not to film them they were filming him! Someone else pointed that one of the women in the background is a Chinese spy, and they had evidence. These people should be deported back to China!
First rule of spy-club, don't draw unwanted attention to yourself.
A couple of points, Old Bean.
The Chinese TV crew were already filming themselves in the station.
They crew had already approached the pianist to have photos taken with him and were acting like fanboys until ...
The man who shouted approached and warned the crew off.
The man who shouted also warned the crew of an eminent person was arriving soon. This turned out to be a CCP official.
It all went South after the CCP woman arrived. NB She's stood next to a white guy behind and to the right of the pianist in the film as the man is shouting.
The piano was cordoned off after the ruckus and UA-cam have tried to 'strike' the pianist's channel ... coincidence? Doubtful.
This story is noteworthy as it throws an otherwise hidden light on how the CCP operates in Britain. There is no conspiracy here, and just because some on the 'right' have taken advantage of this does not mean that it is not illuminating. Trying to claim otherwise is disingenuous.
Actually it was a Japanese film crew. These CCP stooges happened to come along later.
Your comment had 1 reply, but when I clicked to read it none were shown. I’m curious: was it a reply from Evan which he has since deleted?
@@idontknowyouthatsmypurse That comment is hidden from me too. Probably YT being crap, as per.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle maybe it was spam or something and got reported? I've seen this happen in a lot of comment stream.
This turned out to be a CCP official.? Evidence please.
Has nothing to do with the Chinese government either unless you or anyone can show the evidence.
The police woman was a disgrace, she should have told the Chinese guy that in UK filming in public is not illegal.... End of story.
For years the Spectator has been exposing how much of England-- in high places and educational places etc. have been infiltrated and bribed by CCP for years ..Is it Red Cambridge or Oxford? Another vid of proven spy in same company of D. Cameron and she was in the background of the Piano incident.the shouty man son of high up official in D, Province . used to threatening and orders being followed.
She could’ve handled it better but nothing she said or did was wrong
@@Thomashorsman She was wrong about the law. Were you not paying attention or did your simp instincts kick in?
Yes she did sh e told him he could not state fact s or film.@@Thomashorsman
Filming in public is also not illegal in China. I don't think that Chinese guy knows Chinese law...
Police insisting they can't be filmed, almost as though they'd like to keep their operation a secret like some sort of secret police.
Yes, it really makes for a public distrust of the police which is the last thing they need.
Seeing Britain is an Islamic Black Indian Chinese state the clips should be taken down the police who are controlled by Sadiq khan should arrest you but they were busy taking down posters of Jewish children & women missing
Yes it's not acceptable!
Blue Suede Denim Police
Do no interact with UK police without recording it, they are 100% not to be trusted
One women in the background was identified as Christine Lee, named by MI5 as a Chinese agent
Well, Evan, your example about someone who would run around in the UK with a shotgon demanding U.S. arms rights - while being in Britain: That example perfectly illustrates the whole case, and fortunately Brendan Kavanaugh knew his UK rights as a UK citizen in the UK.
Just imagine a 16-year old German guy would start drinking a beer in the street in a "dry county" in the US, demanding that that's his right in Germany 🙈
The only thing actually news worthy about the whole thing is the policewoman who doesn't know the law
that was honestly my takeaway
I am not a fan of the Talk(ing heads) TV, but they are the only ones to have brought it up, and it is useful for free speech given some of the govts possible restrictions on demonstrations and so on, Piers Morgan has been neatly run up the flagpole for all to see and it has tied him to a point of view, which is poetically nice.
@@evan I would actually have liked to see a CPS prosectution for racism , if only to see it fail in court
She Is Brit Transport Police, not Met Police, BTP have different powers attributed to their role. The laws for public spaces and the Met' Police guidelines shown here are not what she is working to. so I'd careful about accusing her of not knowing the law. I'm not an expert on the subject but know that there are distinct differences.
@@dougoneill7266 The law is the law no matter what part of the police force you work for.
This reminds me of when I was in the US Peace Corps. I was with a group heading to Guyana in South America. Because of problems in the country (one story involved a drunk Canadian threatening to kill the President and getting arrested), to be careful of what you said. One of the new Volunteers started in on how he had First Amendment Rights. The coordinators were trying to explain how we represented the US, we needed to be aware of local laws, etc. But he was having none of it. I finally got fed up, stood up, and said, "YOU are an idiot! Your First Amendment Rights end at the US border. The only Rights you have is what Guyana gives you. And if you piss them off, you'll be lucky they don't shoot you. So, shut up about Rights you don't have...except not to go to Guyana." He got quiet then. The coordinators called a break and during the breaks came up to thank me.
Sometimes dopey idiots have to be told common sense. the old "when in Rome......." !
National boundaries cannot contain stupidity.
Thanks for sharing.
And then everyone clapped
Technically everyone in the world has first amendment rights it just that it only applies to what the US and and it’s states, territories and local governments can do. So the US Government is not allowed to breach people’s first amendment rights but the Guyana government sure can or rather anything it does would not breach it.
What got me was the fact that they could not deal with being told no by an apparent no body and maybe thought that this recording would be edited by someone later as it most probably is in CCP.
England listen to China now, so sad!
I've been watching this as it's been unfolding this week (starting when it all kicked off last Friday). So many Eastern people have come out in favour of Brendan - a lot of Chinese people living in the UK, Japanese people, Taiwanese and loads more. It also turns out that one of the women (I think it's the one that was quite prominent in the video, but not the one with makeup on) has a lawsuit against her in China - for violation of the law they're accusing Brendan of supposedly violating and that they say they will get him criminally charged for. It's become insane.
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This went viral on Chinese social media too and most people sided with the piano man.
The Chinese people have been rinsed online, abused and even doxxed, which is probably a bit too far.
Turns out one of the ladies in the background was a CCP agent who was ousted by MI5 some time ago. Shit is wild
Yes, she does have a Lawsuit against her in China for something similar and a few of the others are known CCCP activists. Mahyar Tousi news on YT covered it recently.
This video has been going around in China and many are in support of Brendan and saying that the group has brought shame upon China. I hope they get admonished when they return to China. I am of Chinese descent.
It certainly seems to have struck a chord
Quite clever really ..... I think i know know why the Chinese have done this....... It is to prevent future anti propaganda against China.. By using the 3 strike rule it it will put fear into other youtubers from saying or doing anything anti chinese ! They singeld out Brendan DELIBERATELY because he is in the open and has millions of followers !
a Noteworthy comment...
You're on key.
It was a minor incident.
@@GorgeDawes You're very Sharp...
Ironically UK has so many cameras set up all over the place they would have to have that "ability to video anyone in public" law or they 'd be breaking the law themselves.
Thanks for the overview. I was walking through a High Street when suddenly a man jumped"in front of me, squatted down and took photos virtually up my nose. He then joined another man to discuss, expecting this old lady to present no problem. Well he'd really " got right up my nose!" I gave them a shouty problem for about half an hour, demanding the pictures be removed & they stated these rights. I now see I was actually in the right as the close proximity camera in my face was in effect "zooming in". I also couldn't get past the man till he'd finished without walking in the road, ie harassment?
Those are not Chinese they are group of antiCCP tring to smear China a bad image
Brendan Kavanah is brilliant, been watching him for years. Its a shame that this stuff happens.
I prefer his mate Terry as a pianist.
@@dwayne_dibley Fair enough, I do like videos of when they're both playing together lol
The old adage is " There's no such thing as bad publicity ! "Hopefully he'll do well out of this ( shame about Piers Morgan though)
13:00 Evan, a lot of Chinese communist propagandists are basically trained to cry wolf at "alleged racism" at the first instance of painting the CCP in a negative light, regardless of whether actual racist remarks are involved
his videos often end with hostile interactions which he seeks out for views
Black Belt Barrister did a great breakdown on the legal privacy of the space
Ta. I'll take a look.
His privacy laws on public spaces was clearly spot on. But he did highlight Brendan's ridiculous claim about the possibility of him being shot by 'agents of the CCP'.
@@Humannondancer Brendan made no such claim. I've watched the original video. One of the women called out don't shoot him, don't shoot him and other chinese folk have said she was referring to shooting images/video, not guns.
@@Thurgosh_OG He has made the implication in other videos he's made after the fact. And BB Barrister covered that ridiculous implication ever so lightly.
You must have seen Brendan 'setting the scene' for agro >"I may need some help" in the original 37minute video.
They are trying to rival the LAPD in embarrassing themselves 😅 oh dear. Great coverage 👏🏽
"take legal action" so far amounts to 8 complaints to UA-cam to take the video down
9, the last time I saw it.
UA-cam at its best truthfull and honest people get a strike or flagged chinese lslam and any other human being hate full or don't know our laws get away with this crap so take the Great out of Brittain because its not
Complaints from the CCP
Hopefully UA-cam rejects all complaints.
Don't worry about it . There are many copies out there. You're salty and you know it.
"Don't touch her".
thanks to this very polite young man this has become a 'meme' on Chinese social media. Winnie will be very unhappy :-)
Oh Noes, I just wondered what 4Chan: TNG are gonna do with that audio clip. ***shudder***
Poor unhappy Winnie. It's a f**king tragedy.😭😭😰😥😢
Comrade Newton Leng will be unhappy when Winnie's henchmen "explain" him that he shouldn't embarass his superiors.
The weirdest sign about filming I've seen on a station was at King's Cross a few years ago. A TV documentary was being filmed and the notice said basically, if you don't want to risk being on film, don't use the station. This was on a densely typed A4 sheet stuck up well inside the station.
As a Chinese person I'm so sorry this happened to Brendan. They're just entitled rich Chinese people, they think they could do whatever they want just because they know or with a certain people. In China they'll get away with it. What a disgrace.
Agree! Ive met some of these people at their homes and they are monsters. There was an older women that served cake then was forced to play horse and trot on all fours while the 20 year old birthday girl rode on her back. In private this is how they act so its no surprise they want to mistreat foreign strangers while they are abroad.
They're not just entitled rich people. They're little pinks. CCP operatives. Little fascist bullies trying to take advantage of the politeness and freedoms of a free country.
What's more interesting is why people are running around London promoting the CCP waving flags, do they not realise the British are not going to give a toss about their flag or the fact they're from China... I hope they enjoyed their trip. Well done explaining the law on photography, you nailed it from one photographer to another. :)
Especially if they're liable for any damage or disrespect shown to those flags.
I live in the US, near a very popular tourist destination in the Southwest. I have seen quite a few Chinese families with young children waving their flags as they walk down the street over the years. Always slightly unsettling...
@@TazallaxThe CCP has a tight clamp around Chinese communities aboard - akin to how North Korea handles workers and government officials aboard. They have spies within these communities (including any schools where Chinese students study) that keep an eye on people. If anyone speaks out against the CCP they will be reported to party officials, from there the CCP will either harass them directly or target relatives/friends who still live in China in order to get them to stop.
These particular folks are 'Little Pinks'. It's their job to live in London and promote CCP. They aren't on 'vacation'. It's their job and I think they sought out Dr. K to make use of his 2million viewers.
@@hughtube5154 There not liable on British grounds. Maybe in China, but not in the U.K.
Leave the flag home if it's difficult to keep it safe😅
They are Little Pinks. They are jingoistic as hell
Preferably in China
I don’t understand the “touching” part at all. He didn’t even touch her and they were trying to use S harassment as an attack. If you seen the earlier video, the lady was happily shaking his hands… and those cops. Ma God!
Wow! I have watched a number of channels covering this and yours is THE best coverage yet. Here’s why I say that. It was very balanced and fair. It was quite thorough and accurate. Lastly, it was both informative and instructional - great job mate!
As a fellow former New Jersey resident it was mind blowing that Brendan didn't tell those people to f**k off and get the hell out of his face after about 2 minutes.
I AGREE BUT HE IS A VERY POLITE AND DECENT MAN.
100% - exactly what I thought.
But precisely it was his politeness and charm what destroyed them.
That’s just not how Brendon thinks. He’s a Gentleman. Genuine, and caring. He enjoys meeting and interacting with people as much as he enjoys playing piano.
(I’ve been subscribed to Brendon’s channel for several years.)
@DrKBoogieWoogie
📻🙂
Yeah but he isn't an American
Thanks Evan - you have saved me worrying about which of the many You Tube videos on this story that are in my feed that I should watch to find out what this is all about.
I am a retired lawyer, and it's nearly 50 years since I studied criminal law and 42 since I practised it. But I believe that privacy is mostly a civil (not criminal) law matter, which might explain why the BTP officer didn't know her law, albeit she should know enough that it was not a criminal matter. It is though further complicated by the existence of a number of bye-laws that only affect railway premises - I am sorry to say I think she has probably become used to saying "you can't do that here" as a way of bringing a situation like this to an end, on the basis that most will not question her. Still not good enough though.
The thing I’ve learned about British law is that when you think you understand it… that’s your interpretation of it. There’s always another angle to look at things. Now I understand why solicitors rarely speak in absolutes.
Girlies can't run police forces,phone companies,track + trace apps,banks or post offices,we've now found that out,to our cost,and some peoples lives.
What would she do if a fight broke out among football supporters .. call for a man.
@@evan yeah , it is why I failed one law module ( well sort of two as the law got changed once and I missed it). your GF should know there are two contract cases where the court (of equal rank) both made to me contradictory decisions on the same kind of facts and I could not see where they managed to find distinguishing points for the deviation one judge took. (see also Steve Lehto for a lot of US court cases which are interesting too )
She would run home crying.@@readmylisp
Also, if you watch the live stream carefully, you'll see that they were actually filming him whilst telling him not to film them. 😂
The CCP desperately needed this positive light upon their actors. A blight upon humanity.
It was funny. When Dr. K was playing, he would from time to time ask: "How are we doing?"
The producer or whoever, off camera, would say: "190 people watching" or something like that.
... The last time i checked the recorded stream, i.e. 1 week after the event, it had 8,631,190 views, 463k upvotes, 84,938 comments. And that's just the original video, then you have the reuploads with hundreds of thousands views, the comment videos (ditto), TV appearances, memes... (I had never heard of Dr K - I'm Portuguese -, but I subscribed to his channel.)
Dr. K forfeited all his copyrights on the original streaming. He asked everybody to download it and archive it. If UA-cam takes down the original streaming (he received at least 9 notifications of "privacy concern" from UA-cam), he asks everybody to mass upload the archived version and take the piss out of Xi Jiping.
(BTW, the piano was, on the last video I saw, recorded today, covered with Winnie The Poo teddy bears. Xi banned Winnie The Poo because Chinese people commented it was Xi's lookalike and made memes with Poo. 🤣 (This only gets better.)
The Chinese community (and many brave Chinese living in mainland China!) have been amazing, scolding the Chinese "main characters" for disgracing a people's world image.
I was in Union Station in Los Angeles a few years ago, taking pictures of the architecture (those beautiful ceilings). A woman came toward me and asked if I had taken her picture. I said, “No, ma’am, just the ceiling.” She was okay and walked away. I later found out that I had captured her in one shot. I don’t photograph to sell, so I wasn’t worried. She felt better and so did I.
Great video Evan. You dissected the situation with your usual wit and clarity. Keep them coming👍
That tripod "rant" earned you a subscription from a first time visitor.
Same here in Germany, I can take photos in public including coincidental depictions of people no problem. But if I seek out a person and take pictures of them they have the right to tell me to stop.
Which like… is fair enough
Afaik the law in Germany arose over a century ago because of public uproar after pictures of the dead body of a chancellor were published.
Quite clever really ..... I think i know know why the Chinese have done this....... It is to prevent future anti propaganda against China.. By using the 3 strike rule it it will put fear into other youtubers from saying or doing anything anti chinese ! They singeld out Brendan DELIBERATELY because he is in the open and has millions of followers !
Same in Portugal.
Same in the Netherlands
He wasnt deliberately filming them. They only became identifiable when they came up to him. They were a film crew filming and didn't have any concern about the people they were filming.
This is a really interesting and informative video - thanks Evan! We had an incident about 5 or 6 years ago where my son (around 4 at the time) insisted that he wanted to wear a Charmander outfit to go to walk to the shops to get a few bits. Fine. Pick your battles. But a young guy across the road, maybe early 20s, started taking photos of him in the street. I crossed over and approached him and asked him what he was doing and to stop and he just said he loved the outfit as he and his friends play Pokemon and wanted to show them. I knew as we were in the street there was nothing I could do about it. He wasn't indecent. But legally this guy could and did happily refuse to delete pictures of my child and I was well aware that he was going to go on and show, if not send them, around to complete strangers. It's a difficult one because I actually think it's fine for a legit photographer in a crowded place to take pictures that may include a child in the background. But instances like this I don't feel are ok - but how can the law be changed to specify which situation is allowed and which isn't. I doubt it can.
If one wears an 'unusual' outfit, then one is increasing the chance of being photographed. To lessen the risk, were everyday clothing.
In Norway it’s illegal to take pictures of a child in public without parental consent. That could be a good addition to the law.
As you said you chose your battle. Accept the natural consequences, they are just.
@@DieuwertjeSarathat’s like In super conservative societies you can’t view or depict women. It leads to burqas and for example the Hasidic New Yorkers using the normal grade school reading books but they scribble out all the girls’ faces. You can develop a culture that does this to children instead of women if you like but it will be similarly repressed and toxic and abusive and dis functional
One time I took photos of my children in a fun park. Someone called security because I accidentally included their children. Can't remember a bad outcome
Best dissection of this event I’ve seen! With so many elements, it is easy to confuse the main issue with the “noise”. The nerve of these visiting Communists to try to propagandize an event to Brits in their own country! Thank you Evan. Thank you Dr K for your knowledge, courage and peaceable demeanor.
begging you to read a history book or even a damn Wikipedia page if you think China is a "communist" country.
@@thebasedgodmax1163 Bro it still has many traits of Communism. Not sure why you're commenting here on multiple comments calling them communists. What is your reason for spending your time doing this? You're not wrong, but why are you insistent on multiple replies? Are you simple a proud Chinese person or history nerd, or some more sinister?
@@CharlieReZa no, i''m a rational person who opposes people getting things wrong. I'm not Chinese nor am i a fan of China, but the people who believe China is firmly communist are showing their ignorance. this especially becomes a problem when so many commenters on this situation twist it into something racist against the "Chinese communists".
@@thebasedgodmax1163 The fact you think those comments are racists is why I thought you might be Chinese, or reside there or similar. There is far less truth and subjective racism online to oppose than calling China communists and posting an opinion that their attitude in this video was pretty awful.
@@CharlieReZa I'm not denying the attitude in the video is wrong. what I'm saying is that turning this into a narrative about how evil China is is racist. these five or so people in the video aren't the entire nation of China's people, yet racists are using this as bait. it's very telling that the guy in the video's first televised interview was with Piers Morgan on a tv channel mostly hosted by racists.
and Dr K kept saying, 'You're not their personal security.' Because that was how she was acting.
Piano Jokes are not Evan's forte.
Well done.
Lol
I think you could say it is his *piano*
That joke struck a chord
a Noteworthy comment...
The police woman though. Haha, epic fail. Also, can someone point me, since when CCP is a race/ethnicity? Hahaha!
Dr.K makes videos for profit; it's reasonable to ask him to delete someone else from his video.
@@EC-tz4us Not in this context of a live stream by a fixed camera in public. The station staff could ask him to stop live streaming for particular reason, but the CCP staff member (proven)& colleagues cannot demand he stop filming them, they needed to move or alert station staff who would have then sufficeint reason to ask him to stop. If it was a recorded video and he did not blur their faces or remove that segment, then yes he would be liable but all UK legal experts agree he is completely fine :)
@@EC-tz4us not its not you doofus
out of everything in this video, the police woman is the most infuriating person. What an absolute job's worth. She needs training, or to get off the force
OK, to recap, someone livestreaming playing the famous piano is essentially *photobombed* by Chinese Nationals who are determined to stage some sort of confrontation, who first demand the video be deleted, and then try to change the narrative. This is unbelievably insane.
I subbed your channel as part of my "keep learning about the rest of the world as you get old" feed, and I'm really glad I did. Cheers, Evan.
Side comment RE: public people photos-- I've always avoided photographing people without their permission; one never knows what their situation is.
And get loads of publicity instead of being ignored.
@@jacklinton4885if you've ever got your camera/,phone out to take a picture of a street scene,maybe a chance light effect is highlighting an architectural feature or bestowing a particular mood,and as you are framing and focusing the shot you suddenly find looming up before you a big strong fit man in full charge of his capacities and he is telling you in a polite but forcefully way that you are not allowed to take this photograph. And you realize he is that weak,abject beggar sitting,lost and oblivious in his sadness to the world around him on that bundle of rags that you hadn't even noticed. Your photo is going into your collection of local scenes in the County Archives. It's highly unlikely to be seen by anyone in police,HMRC or DWP. But you don't say anything. You pocket your device. That weak,abject beggar was not so much when stood in front of you just a fraction too close. And that Beggars Whine,replaced by an Authoritarian voice with a distinctly well educated modulation. Wot are they like,the friends of Da downtrodden in The People's Republic.
@@jacklinton4885you are absolutely correct. They were polite about asking, and realistically one never knows what kind of risk they are under as Chinese nationals.
They did get heavy handed as Brendan got snippy, so both parties were wrong in the end. I was a big fan of Brendan before but chose to unsubscribe for escalating this.
And to anyone harping about their flag waving, one can be patriotic and love their nation despite not loving their government. Do any of us have different flags if the government in power is not to our liking?
@@jacklinton4885 His attitude doesn't really matter. He knew his rights and never overstepped them.
Earlier footage shows they were quite happy being filmed, introduced themselves, shaking hands, laughing and chatting to Brendan and even playing the piano... UNTIL Christine Lee turned up; a known CCP spy exposed by MI5 and now in hiding. Suddenly, their attitude to appearing on camera changed, realised Lee had been caught on camera and wanted their images removed as they are broadcasting Lee's whereabouts.
The second reason is why before i had my three outdoor cameras installed, i went and spoke to my neighbours, because of the wide angle there is no way i can position them without bleed over on their properties. Without pointing them straight down, they were okay with that, in fact they all told me, that's fine with me, because if anything happens, you'll have it on cameras. Most people with home security don't use it to spy on their neighbours, im sure some try, and thats creepy af, but unless there's an issue, i never look at mine.
You can place blinds next to the camera to stop the full range of view
@r8chlletters i could, yes. Thats more work than just asking my neighbours if they're okay with it. Lol. Which they actually were.
party members are not used to lessers to argue. they are used to being obeyed. so they freaked out.
Update: They're now trying to sue him for defamation. Sad. They will get what is coming to them, mark these words.
Doesn't matter if the stations are private as these places are deemed as 'Publicly Assessible Areas. ' Publicly Assessible Areas ' are concidered the same as public areas even if it is on private land.
only for the enforcement of law of things you cannot do in a public space, not always of the things you have a right to do in a public space
I remember this particular law coming up a few years ago with some students at Bath Spa Uni trying to take photos in the 'new' shopping area near the station in Bath.
Someone was trying to take a few architecture photos in the morning light and got harassed by security guards. They were using a tripod.
And yes, even that space, open 24/7 is privately owned, and the owners do enforce their right to require you get a permit.
This sort of thing does come up every few years as people forget their rights and the laws etc etc.
Of course one should not forget that the owner of St Pancras is a public sector company, a regulated monopoly. Technically owned by the people.
Thank you for explaining the legal situation about public photography in Britain. That really helps. And the nuances are important.
Thanks for this well-informed commentary. I now know a bit more about our laws than I did when I woke up this morning!
Another great factual video, lovely mid week surprise! And my god, your lighting and lens choices are just gorgeous here.
Congrats “Little Pinkies” you are famous worldwide! Should be proud of it❤😂😂
I understand that it's called Little Pink Derangement Syndrome.
What it that means?
As a British street photographer living in China, all of the many issues raised here resonate. I've obviously had confrontations myself with people telling me I can't photograph them, both in the UK and in China (in London I was told by a security guard I couldn't photograph the office building he was working in). Police not knowing the law is definitely more widespread than you might think - I am hooked on some channels that only film police in the US not knowing the law (mostly not understanding that citizens can refuse to provide ID when asked unless the police have reasonable suspicion they are committing a crime). Anyway, thanks for sharing. My key (Chinese) takeaway is never touch another woman's flag if you are not the same age.
Never touch another woman's flag if yours is only at half-mast.
Is that... a red flag, so to speak?
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You can only touch her flag if she touches your flag pole.
Too many people think that because Police do not have a power to make you do something it means they are not allowed to ask you to do it. THAT IS WRONG. Police can ask you to do something voluntarily and you can comply if you wish, if you then refuse, they can try to convince you but ultimately they will not report you for an offence because there is no specific power or law involved. This does not mean that the “Police don’t know the law”, it means they are using their common sense to try and deescalate the situation before going down any other formal route, which is easier on everyone involved.
Aye. British police do not protect the law; they maintain the peace.
Important to know how the country you live in works, Evan.
Yes, but why was the policewomen so insistent on not being on camera?
So, she should have said "That is a rude thing to say!" (which was not...), and not "You *cannot* say that." When a figure of authority says you "cannot" do something, it gets fuzzy if that figure of authority is giving you advice or presenting you your legal rights and duties.
In recent times British law enforcement seems to have enforced every other thing except the will of the British people
As Taiwanese, l guess it just time to let everyone know what happen to us everyday
Yes 👍🏾
Yeah no.
as taiwanese u didnt know those are not chinese and they are antiCCP trying to smear china bad image anyway u are part of it as well
I get the difference, when in south korea, if i took a photo in public, of the street, in a cafe, etc, i had to blur everybodies face, yet in the UK, i can film and take photos of any public place and it doesnt matter who's in it.
I think the important thing is recognising and following the laws of the land you are in.
Because laws and rights are not universal.
As someone who makes ans sells their own products at yarn shows around the UK. One thing I'm kinda expected to do is take photos of my stand to promote the show. Sometimes, it's unavoidable that you end up taking those pics AFTER doors open, then it can be tricky to get them with no one in the pics. So, out of respect for my customers, I always try to only catch them from behind and not get their faces. The images are for self and show promotion, so having a random person from the public in the image is not a good thing if their face is showing, but i do feel its fine to have them in frame if their privacy is protected.
I really like these videos that discuss recent events and news. A lot of times I'm too unbothered to read articles so this provides a nice medium
At last, some clarification of the law as regards this Chinese/UK piano dispute. Thanks Evan for this.
Communism is the virus 🦠
One thing that Evan never mentioned was the fact that the Chinese people weren't the focal point of the video.
Another part of street photography is, if you are chasing someone around trying to get their image, that isn't permitted.
Brenda's was the focal point of his stream, everyone else was just a background extra.
The MI5 connection is infered from the lack of coverage by BBC and ITV. someone is putting the lid on this story on mainstream media
No it's because of Christine lee being there. MI5 previously identified her as a CCP spy when she had infiltrated the British government.
yup.For years the Spectator has been exposing how much of England-- in high places and educational places etc. have been infiltrated and bribed by CCP for years ..Is it Red Cambridge or Oxford? Another vid of proven spy in same company of D. Cameron and she was in the background of the Piano incident.the shouty man son of high up official in D, Province . used to threatening and orders being followed.
No surprises there. Mainstream media has consistently come out on the wrong side of issues for the last 20+ years but even more so since c19
Why would they cover it?
I can just see the BBC news at 9....
People have argument at station. Police talk to them.
That would draw the viewers in.
A great talk and a very good explanation ! Thank you 😊.
Thank you for this video. I'm an American living vicariously through you, I want to live in England.
Thanks for making this video as it clears up a lot of doubt. I've personally had too many bad brushes with the CCP while abroad too. Wish I could share them with you.
When shouty guy is screaming 'DON'T TOUCH HER' over and over, the woman was saying 'Don't shoot him' several times
lots of people have already “debunked” that as being like “don’t film him” (as in shooting a film etc) - Chinese English getting misunderstood rather than anything to do with actual firearms (thankfully)
The irony is that London has more surveillance cameras per capita than Beijing.
Not surprising if you are refering to Greater London compared with Beijing. It most likely id the opposite if you refer to just the City of London!
Thank you for the video. I found it very informative
I've been following this all week. I agree with Dr K and applaud him for standing up to his rights but I'm concerned that he might be attracting some more extreme elements that will latch on to this just to push a differant agenda
CCP handler served two scoops "Streisand Effect" with "Little Pink" cherry on top.
Thanks for covering this Evan 👍
You are good at explaining things and totally agree with what is private and what is not.
Having not really followed the story, I really enjoyed the explanation.
I have learned alot watching this and want to thank you for always taking the time to explain what's going on in a simple way that's easily understood.
As someone filming in a publicly accessible area in the UK, it is essential to know that the law generally allows filming in public spaces as long as it does not violate any other legal statutes or individual rights. However, it is still vital to ensure that no laws are being broken, such as those related to harassment, public disturbance, or national security concerns.
I wondered how you could spend 25 minute on this but it was great! Subscribed. You covered the law with such precision--thank your GF! This lawyer learned something. It's funny how much nuance there is to this encounter. Your humor and wit took it to another level. TY!
China records everyone everywhere and even has special recognition to give to those who are not the best citizens--pressuring people not to be so rude driving, etc... And they furnish cameras, software, etc to African countries provided they sign over rights to China?
If somewhere is privately owned, but open to the general public, it’s still a public place and there’s no way they can stop photography even if they specifically request it. Also, trespass is not criminal, it’s civil, so it’s not a crime and not a police matter. Only aggravated trespass is a crime in the UK.
I think this is one of those things where the word crime means a surprisingly different thing across the pond. In the UK it’s used EXCLUSIVELY for breaking criminal law (as opposed to civil which according to my gf would be a… tort???) whereas in the states the word crime is a catchall.
You're wrong. You can be thrown out of privately owned spaces, regardless of if the public have access or not. Think of a department store for example, the public have access but if you don't follow their rules you could be ejected.
@@evan as their was a real Chinese s. p. y in the background .
@@rikmoran3963But its not the police who makes that decision.
@@rikmoran3963how are they wrong. They never said you can't be removed. If you trespass reasonable force can be used to make you leave. Does not change the fact you can film that encounter if its public and it's not a crime.
As a Brit when growing up one of the first things I was shocked about that can get you legally in trouble in other countries was taking pictures or filming something in a public location for mounting of reasons (it could be simple as that said public location for some reason doesn’t allow photography full stop).
The clear reason why that shocked me is well because I grew up here in the UK I was so use to our laws I couldn’t understand why it was such a issue (now that I’m grown up I do kinda get it in some countries but when it’s so minute I still wouldn’t understand why that’s a problem in those countries and I honestly wonder what would happen to someone that does break that said law and unfortunately deleting it ends up not a possible answer to solve it how can they get themselves out of it especially when it’s a livestream where you can’t just edit something out). Like one of the rights I grew up here knowing about from a young age was that I was legally allowed to take a photo or film something in a public location, but I was also told don’t be a creep about it or you will be arrested but as long you don’t be a creep you are completely fine and that you shouldn’t take a picture or film in private location because of copyright or trespassing on someone’s livelihood.
Personally I find that completely reasonable way of getting told what you should or shouldn’t doing when taking pictures or filming someone in a public or private location, but back to when I started to learn about how heavily restricted it was to film or photograph something in other countries and that even a clearly just a scenery shot but unknowingly someone gets into that shot and they can get you legally in trouble for just that I was shocked as hell as I could not see how does that offend or hurt anyone in that said country, it makes me question then why the hell do you even allow the general public to even have cameras in the first place when a lot of places will heavily restrict it’s actually use.
Anyway personally after hearing all this out I do find it absolutely ridiculous that the police even got involved in this matter and I’m sorry for those Chinese people but unfortunately your claims are just not valid here and you should honestly just took the advice and moved away from the camera if you really didn’t want to get filmed.
TBH, the police probably had to get involved because of breach of the peace. The male officer told the Chinese people that it was a public space and that they had no right to stop him, it was the female officer that extended the stop with her whole "you can't film me" nonsense. From watching the livesteam, my take away was if the male officer had been alone, he'd've told them to jog on and most of that situation would have been dealt with.
I'm not sorry for those Chinese. They acted opportunistically. They would have realized barging in and creating a scene would get them a LOT of publicity. I'm sure the general public were just walking past with barely a glance and not a flicker of interest.
@@janebaker966Publicity is what they should have avoided, considering Christine Lee; a known CCP spy in hiding was with them. They had no objections to the camera until her arrival.
@@andrewbrian7659 oh definitely agree of why the police got involved (and yah the female cop did technically make this worse from plain oblivious of the full law) but what precisely I found ridiculous was that honestly it could’ve easily been avoided if there was at least one decent person amongst them that casually without getting emotional and able to tell them what the laws are in the UK (and maybe not mention any other country so they could avoid any other possible accusation) or if honestly these Chinese people should’ve done their research on what the laws are here in the UK as at least I think this if you go abroad make sure you know that countries laws beforehand as going over there without knowing that either just makes you a idiot or you think your above the law (at least in other countries that is). That’s my take honestly.
@@ConnerTravis1998 I found the the Pianist to be very decent. He didn't get emotional or loud. He simply stood his ground and told the Chinese that they are not in communist China and he's allowed to film in a public place. He even told them several times to simply walk away. The escalation came when the Chinese shouted loudly and aggressively at the Pianist for not to touch her (He didn't touch her).
This is a great take. Great video.
Policing is LAW ENFORCEMENT so it is absolutely essential for a police officer to know the law that he is paid for to enforce.
What a gift this video is...I was watching this when this went down... I love Brendan . Thank you for helping me understand what was going on....
他們不知道自己在全球規模是多麼招人厭，因為他們不用管這些，只要看著黨意即可。
你所说的全球包括中东非洲那些苦难的人民 被欧洲美国吸血的人民吗？
Wonderful explanation of filming in public. Well done young man.
Yay! Nicely done! Thanks ol' chap!.
This upload made me forget it's not Sunday and I still have the whole weekend left
A public entity like national rail managing the station is not the same thing as something being “privately owned” for most people’s common understanding of that phrase. Governments own lots of limited companies. It’s still your tax payer dollars.
Pounds.
Dollars 😂 We're not that far gone
FYI It's a 'public access' space, not strictly a 'public space'. Station staff would, for instance, be entitled to clear the Station if there was a threat warning - they would not have to wait for the Metropolitan Police to do it for them - although that would usually happen. Station personnel could have a reasonable cause to be wary of random individuals recording details of station buildings etc, - especially when you recall that the IRA (outlawed Irish Republican Army) and various Middle-Eastern terror groups have in the recent past made attempts to cause deadly atrocities in public - or populous - locations such as stations, tourist sites, etc ('Indecent exposure' would be another possible example! ) Asking for some account of a photographers' intentions would not be unreasonable. As a user of that station, I find it reassuring to know that staff do keep an eye on what goes on.
Thanks Evan for covering this. It was rather a strange happening. They put themselves more in the media than if they just left.
The fact that the Chinese were filming Brendan is interesting, they don’t want to be filmed while filming others. As Brendan says on other channels covering the fallout of the incident, the Chinese shouty man wasn’t used to being told no.
Great video, thanks Evan. So informative to this Aussie. What a load of nothing turned into a big deal!
If they had been trying to film there, why not say that? They could've asked him to wait. But no, they go right to, "Don't film us." You get more flies with honey than vinegar.
That police officer needs to go for some training, very badly. Not a good look for the UK police force and worst still for the metropolitan police. Big shame.