Didn't Expect This in a Pro Race - Intelligentsia Lombard Criterium
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The more crit videos I watch the more I appreciate just hanging out mid-pack at a gravel race.
It makes me enjoy TTing that much more!
Most sports are more enjoyable via youtube or tv. :D
@@aamj50 TT no bike skill just pedal hard for a short period of time.
@@AshKetchhum you've clearly never done a TT...
LOL...same here
10:12 look at that guys handle bars pointing off towards the side with his wheel straight😂
Can only 'hope' that happened close to bell lap with no more mechanicals. Do they still give mechanicals in crits? Been a good 30 years since I hung up the wheels.
I think he just has his shifters angled inwards which a lot of people do
@@Henry-gv8gj are you sure? maybe check again. it looks to me like the handlebars are clearly not inline with his front wheel lol
Nice catch. I once got a free lap to fix that when it happened while I was "avoiding a crash," but a properly torqued stem shouldn't shift IMHO unless it was a big enough impact to cause other damage. I didn't see any evidence he had gone down (unless he landed on other riders, in which case, 10 for the dismount).
10:13 the guy on the rights handlebars? lol
REALLY hope that was from a crash during the race and just overlooked it to get back in. lol Still not safe, granted.
@@sknkwrksowner It must have been from a crash but I still don’t get how you can ride the bike properly with that angle😂
@@mathiasklose4757 especially at those speeds, right?! lol
Being a German viewer, it's soo cool to see a German team in your videos. They're from my area and ride into podium places in almost all the crits they enter. Really cool team!
Fühle ich, besonders wenn man auch gegen die fährt
Oh ja. Sehe schonmal welche auf der Panzerstraß am Flughafen
Servus, welches Team war das denn? Kannst du nen Namen nennen von den Fahrern?
@@gingerale2564 das Team heißt Colonia Kids. Die fahren ein silbernes Standert und haben blaue kits mit einem gelben Streifen am Arm
Just to be clear. It's a german Amateurteam!
That woman at 4:54 was INTO Timmy
This perspective shows how different national crit racing is. Awesome footage as always Jeff.
And the World Tour is another step or six up the ladder again. And I can’t even do 35mph downhill with a tailwind!
The Standert rider who saves it and keeps the inside line was pretty impressive.
11:43 No.132, nice handling with better grip force tyre ~
This course is not only three miles from my house, we have weekly group rides that start from the bank on the main street. Super cool to see such a high level race in the local neighborhood!
God that dive was ridiculous. the way he came off too, it amazes me how easily some people accept sanding off their skin on the road when they lose it, like they're wearing leathers or something.
I dont race, but is there some other, better way to crash? (Other than not crashing)
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug man.
They should consider wearing protective gear if they’re gonna kamikaze corners like that lol.
I have done many, many, crits and some times you get lucky and don’t get taken out by a crash. When you go down you slide and road rash is the result. Unfortunately, broken collar bones occur at times too. I always loved crits because I had a decent sprint.
Clearly you lack a bit of understanding two wheeled Dynamics. It was a good move and it could have been pulled off had the surface been a little bit more grippy ( or if the rider knew it was possibly a bit slippery could have delayed his Turn-in Point and as I mentioned don't know if the rider was on the front brake at all. Also possibly body position could have been a contributing factor as well. Somebody who is really experienced with good bike handling skills potentially could have done better. The mark of a good racer is somebody who walks the course prior to the race looks for any bumps, cracks or debris in critical areas such as the corners. The problem with most of the Roadie mindset is that they just get on the bike and pedal. They need to treat it differently if they want to have the edge over their competitors. They need to cross the t's and Dot the i's. That means leaving nothing to chance. So much focus is on FTP and one legged pedaling drills and not enough on braking steering and turning which become critical components of racing. Yes you need the aerobic power you need to have the understanding of the mental game where and when to attack but you also need to be a stellar bike Handler and most Roadies unfortunately are not. They don't spend enough time learning about bike handling they just think that by racing and training riding that they're going to learn when in fact that is not the case. Anybody who's road racing should be mountain biking or even riding a dirt bike. Look at the best road cyclist's in the world they typically come from a dirt background, whether it's BMX mountain biking or slopestyle. The best Racers who are on the podium and who win championships are good at every aspect of their craft not just one or two aspects. Same is true for any two-wheeled Motorsport.
Brutal outcome to such a well-raced crit. The story-telling and editing in this analysis are top quality.
young Kiwi lad will learn from that likely impossible corner approach. Hope no one was too injured and thanks Ryan for coming on.
Not at all impossible it was a good line if the surface was grippy or if he was possibly not on the break it would have been a classic block pass I suggest you start learning about Motocross and road racing instead of just making silly comments and not understanding what cornering is all about
Clever helping out the even off the bike.. awesome to see everyone working together when it’s not race time 👍
I remember you talking about how a lot people who are racing now have spent most of the past couple years indoors focusing purely on power output and fitness and have zero bike handling skills (not to mention situational awareness) in a previous video. That makes me a wary about returning to group events and racing. I've noticed it more often out on the road, too.
I think it's mostly just Chicago.
No, it’s the must win at any cost mentality in cycling when you’re not even a pro. I’m sure the rider had great skills tbh, but went for a line that could have got him a win, but got him in the bin.
@@niallwoan5847 exactly if his tires had stuck he would have probably podiumed. White line fever, young men have it in abundance.
@@tewaewae let’s be honest, I’ve seen people state that he’s a conti rider from NZ, riders of that calibre aren’t Zwift heroes, but legit, good bike handling riders who’ve won races to get where they are. It’s exactly as you said, white line fever.
Dude you were the only one who seems to understand what it takes to be a good bike Handler. Situational awareness spatial judgment, reaction, body position Etc. the key to being a good bike Handler is knowing all the aspects of how to brake, steer and turn. 👍
Incredible how chill you guys are about some buffoon crashing you out of a race.
That's bike racing!
Maybe this perspective helps: At the end of a bike race, everyone is exhausted, the body has shifted priority from brain to muscle, and sometimes that tiny idea you have, that leads to a split second decision, turns out to be a bad idea. This doesn't make you a buffoon.
@@towhee7472 plenty of idiots are there on lap 1 all the way to bell lap. Crits are the worst
How is Ryan feeling post crash? What damage was caused to his bike?
Great content Jeff! Lombard is actually my hometown, and the crowds are super supportive!
Same here!! Seeing Sacred Heart in the background is really bringing back memories :)
@@errolkaylor7636 Nostalgia for real!
I live in Lombard and I was banging on the boards by the finish line watching this race.
Man that race looked so hard. Great race, Ryan!
Awesome story telling and video
Loving this Intelligencia cup series
Hats off the the guys who are willing to risk loosing skin for basically no money.
All it took was the sound of snapping carbon frames in a cat5 race I was in that convinced me that racing wasn't for me😅
just get an old aluminum frame
@@JwallzMTB i don’t think that what his message.
this is why gravel races are growing faster than crits. much more safer
Hey at least you admit it 👍
Just signed up to skill share so I can start making my own vids. Thanks for the resource Jeff! Great racing as always :D
Props to old mate in the white jersey at 1:27 bunnyhopping the manhole like a champ
Wow another banger man i love your videos keep it up 😁
Oh, I think the GoPro does justice to how packed that grouping is lol. That is scary stuff; full commitment. Kudos you guys are amazing.
Bad luck in that corner, but he is ok, ready for another battle. Great vid!
I've had that happen to me in a Strait way!!!!! I was able to Bunny Hop over the Fallen Rider and the rider behind me went down! Less than a Second to React! ✌️👍🙏
A lot of years ago I bunny hopped over a fallen rider. Unfortunately (for him) he had fast reactions and started to sit up. My back wheel hit him in the upper chest,and slammed him back down. I wobbled but didn't fall. I don't know who he was,never recognized him in that slit second, never (as far as I know) saw him again. I hope he wasn't hurt badly.
Love this course. I died a thousand deaths racing it this year. Thought I was off the back for good at least three times.
Crazy...that's almost exactly how my racing career (if you can call it that) ended 14 years ago. Setting up for my sprint during last lap and got undercut in a corner. T-boned the guy at 31mph when his bike slid out in front of me (pro - 3 crit). Every time I watch footage like this, heart rate elevates and I can feel my pulse pounding in my neck.
Going to start incorporating bunny hop training into my routine for moments like this!
You try to bunny hop in a turn and expect a broken collar bone.
Nice video Jeff, quick question, what radio Comms do you guys use?
Love to see how Jeff's Grandma holds up her needle at 4:55 to help him if anything goes wrong :D
Lol
Reminds me of the old "Superweek" in late 80's. Finish all your races in that series in the pack and the USCF official would give you category upgrade if you asked.
I believe "superweek" lives on as tour of america's dairyland
Whoop! Superweek - those were the days. That and Snake Alley-Moline Memorial Day.
@@roughcutguitars Snake Alley brings back memories of what we thought was our ride leader Dan K's fearless cornering and descents-turns out his new Shimano AX brakes just had no stopping power. But being numb from the neck up, he just rolled with it.
Awesome video and race! If I was Ryan, I would find it VERY hard to not shake my head over and over thinking about the guy who took me out. Sheesh.
By far the best coverage of Intelli. Always been curious abour this racee but coverage has beeen subpar, and I didn't want to drive 3hrs to watch a few crit races. Try out Tour of America's Dairyland next year!
production quality has gotten so good
Race radios! Sweet
Hey Jeff, I know you started the year on the Reserve wheels with the pirelli tires set up tubeless. What wheels and tires are you using now? they look different. Curious why you switched it up.
They way these people slide when they fall, there is no way I wouldn't have on long sleeve tear-resistant kit.
Cool to see the mitoq team from my home country of nz in ur video. Sad to see one of them go down
that intro! 🔥
Another awesome video Jeff. And your quality is just getting better and better. The drone shots are 👌🏻👌🏻 EDIT: ha that Hustle rider that came on your inside when it slowed and took 2nd was a buddy of mine. Crit racing...just crazy!
Matteo Dal-Cin is a beast! 🙌🏻
@@davidbilenkey5714 yes he is! leave the door open, he'll take it!
These are better than watching a demo derby!
In Belgian racing there is nog such thing as chilling at the back, the second we drop out of the first 20 riders we have to push so much extra watts and it kills you over a 70km race😅
If that dude hadn't slid out on the pavement, he would've crashed into the barrier. There's no way he was making that second corner. Face palm.
That's really a poor analysis from an armchair bloke. Why don't you explain talk to the rest of us, technically with regard to the physics and biomechanics of how he would have hit the barrier.
8:57 #107: "I'll juuuuust sneak up on the outsi- NOPE NOPE NOPERS" Kudos to the Promoter for placing those nice bright cones at the pinch points.
Thanks for the skillshare free month link Jeff
editing on this is wild!
Ryan - 1200+ watts after 75mins racing, really impressive!
Whatever the change was in the surface finish when the rider lost it was nasty. He hammered into the corner and right at the apex there was a bump or a glossy bit of road or something and the bike just stepped out. I reckon it was more bad luck than bad planning there. There was a grotty bit of road leading out right where he lost it.
That dude was squirrelly all race, everybody knew to avoid him in that corner. A good team could protect its leader. Rubber side down. I need to watch some dubs....let's go
What about the bike after this crash? Is it still ride-able or frame is done?
At 7:48 there's a bike frame labelled "THOMPSON". What is that brand?
#132, following right behind #97, clipped the apex similarly close but had plenty of grip, even enough to evade the crash. #97 probably could have made the corner if they had just taken a slightly later, wider entry (they had the space!) and maybe relaxed their body a bit more. #97 looked real stiff and upright through the corner compared to everyone else. Easy to make mistakes like this and not be inch-perfect when tired at the end of a crit, but it would have been the difference between a good result and crashing.
Good analysis Daniel
Duuude that's like getting hit by a stray green shell and all of a sudden you're 12th place in Mario Kart
I was recently in a crash at wells ave B race in Boston( Cat 3/4) and I’m still trying to figure out exactly what happened. It was the first corner of the last lap and a rider snuck up the inside and stuck there handle bars in front on mine with little to no gap between me and the wheel in front of me. We hooked went down and I separated my left AC joint in my shoulder. Blame I think could go both ways because he was more experienced but I had the the firm position on the wheel. Could you elaborate on cornering and etiquette of when you should be trying to make that move or when you should back off and give up the wheel. Does the inside line get right of way? Would love to learn from this experience so I don’t get hurt again. I learned a lot from this Channel. Great vids thanks
Its really a matter of respect in a race. Apart from experience, if you have the inside line, but i think i can squeeze in and you wont fight me off or squeeze me out im going to take it. If you show defensiveness to your position/line they'll likely back off. Like he said in the video sometimes you cannot give an inch because people will take it and not give it back. based on your explanation i would think the other rider is at fault for pushing into your line, but i wouldnt say its a massive offense, seeing as it was the last lap.
Tbh mate at a certain level of racing I don’t think you guys should be racing all that competitively. Unless you’re on the world tour or are your way there, there’s no reason to be taking huge risks. That’s what I don’t like about criterium racing as a hobby, the risk to reward ratio is just off
@@HkFinn83 You are right on some regards. But a life with no danger is no life at all. The guy who took me out also had stage four cancer so I think he was throwing caution to the wind
Crit racing is scary. I have great respect for anyone who rides these races and mixes it up with the bunch. For me, I'd either be trying to stay alone at the front -- which I don't have to fitness to accomplish -- or hanging off the tail and just finishing with the rubber side down. But what would be the point of that.
damn the standert behind the guy that fell... that was close
Wow level up editing
ROBBED! "That's Racing" is correct. On a positive note, that was the winning line and move... it's an indication of great instincts and that your wins will continue to come. Racing is awesome, except for the crashes.
Jeff, with all the crashes happening, have u considered elbow and hip pads?
I've tried crits 2x and crashed out both times. So a 2 hour round trip per race just to crash wasn't my jam. I think I went into the races thinking I was better than I actually was and got humbled for it. That and or I just shouldn't have been there in the first place, I don't know but it is what it is.
💥 Curbs Are Killers💥
Fantastic
I won my only ABLofA race-heh-dates me..In Lincoln Park in 1971, C class.
What tyres do you use??
Can someone please explain the bottle throwing at 10:50 ? Why might have he done that? And what kind of fine do you get for something like this?
He thought a fan wanted it... they didnt.
Epic. hope everyone OK
I made a norcal video by calling you out on pronunciation. Life complete 🤣🤣
Bell working
@Norcal Cycling back in my race days some years ago whenever I tail gunned with a teammate I seem to “ALWAYS” Cramp up with about 2 laps to go. I think it had a lot to do with maintaining such an easy effort that when I stepped up the speed it was too much fast twitch, adrenaline, & power going on, so I did better at just racing in the field 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Shout out to Ryan! He did get bamboozled
I had just experienced that same situation 2 weeks ago and I was so freaking furious on the rider that wiped me out. I was so sure I had it. I even kicked the wheel of his bike out of frustration and apologized afterwards. Lol.
I'm scared watching the guys going through this right sweeping 180 turn
Crazy
Should have pulled a massive bunny hop over the fallen rider then pounded out 1300 watts up the hill to victory.
THat was a great move by the rider that jumped the leadout. If he'd just straightened out a little he might not have crashed. There was room, and this is the type of move you need to win these races. It just comes down to bike handling. You're a hero if you pull it off, and a dingus if you can't keep it upright and crash out a bunch of other people.
This is why I only do ITT hillclimbs
Have you ever thought about posting more videos of your off season training? Would be kinda hype watching you progress power wise in an off season coming into a racing season.
Who was the pro new Zealand team? Let's go nz. Also that guy was a lunitic.
Ugh......such bad luck. Hope you're ok!
The rider with number 84 is a rider from Geofco-Doltcini, which is a Belgian Conti Team so he’s also a pretty good rider
his name is Simon Daniels btw
Had my first crit race This weekend finished 9the place i could had easy top 5 but there was no Bell for the finale lap so i thought there was another lap rookie mistake i guess
What the flip is that Sauce for Strava thing on there!? Just kidding, I wrote that and I love Jeff's perspective on racing as a former racer myself.
I hope the bike is ok 😀
Who is the Mikes Bikes rider getting lapped at 7:25? Is that you, Jeff?
why in the world did that team just pump the brakes going into that corner? it was their race to lose at that point
Did he say “one of those 400W ftp dudes” - like they’re common 🤣
Unlucky for Ryan, pretty silly move of the other dude.
The Miamiteam has something to talk about because this could have taken out the yellow jersey. they slow down with under 1k to go and lost the race because of it.
Aka the Ethan Hayter
I'm a simple man. I see a NorCal Cycling upload, I click.
I love your videos and want to try racing but those crashes look terrible lol
The painted stop lines are always slipperier then the tarmac… in addition to that line being way to tight and fast. 🤦♂️
For the guys racing with gopros on top of their aero helmets, does that defeat the purpose of an aero helmet?
It's not enough bc the Williams brothers use it all the time and they still win. But I'd reconsidering for a long tour though
no way!!!!!!!
That dude that took out Ryan , was his name lewis Hamilton? Was he sponsored by Mercedes Benz ?
Big money on the line = $27,650
God crit racing is so sketchy... it looks so fun but it's hard for me to justify putting myself in that much danger