@@ERROR6097EDITS island or continent level at max? dude the one piece world is nearly the size of the sun and onigashima is around the size of a planet, stop downplaying luffy when he has planetary+ feats when every jjk character has small city feats
Bruh u saying luffy is planetary first of all a person with no cursed energy cannot kill a curse so sukuna claps luffy has almost no form of healing but jjk verse has rct
@@orfaal.4 it goes hand in hand but when discussing a debate endurance means the pain you can take while in real life endurance goes for how much you can take in total
@@IMO3530a character luffy before pre return to sabaody is implied to be light speed. To suggest luffy has at best gotten 2x faster since is insane… even ichiji has moved faster than light and was no diffed by Katakuri who was drastically holding back.
@@WindowLife. I disagree with all the light speed scaling besides the pacifistas beams which is a sub relativistic feat considering the distance and wind up
I love JJK but im going to keep it real JJK characters are getting folded but Majority of peoples top 20-30 character in one piece. Sukuna and Gojo getting folded by base luffy post wano
@@navhidahmed481luffy is rubber and rubber is stretchy so luffy can just stretch his balls across the universe and slap him in the face thus killing him
Both ryou and Advanced Conquerors let him attack from the inside, also, Luffy is the kind of guy to think to make the air gum, so i don't think he wouldn't make the space between him and JJKman gum, also, i think he literally could see himself "punching harder than space" and think that could work. Another small thing, he was able to make cuts gum, and i can see him making one of the 3D cuts gum and send it back. Great video
Haki wont work cuz he has to touch the physical body/object in order to destroy it from the inside. Also he won‘t get through infinity no matter what headcannon you pull outta your ass, I can maybe see him beating sukuna ( also sukuna won‘t get speedblitzed cuz of the kashimo feat) but against gojo, nah One UV and it‘s over
@@Bottomsup1 No he doesn't... during his bajrang gun he literally said he learned how to punch without making contact. The gap between his punches was literally big enough to fit a neighborhood in it, it's going right through gojo.
Luffy's Unique Abilities and Potential Limitations Luffy, being a rubber-powered individual with the abilities of the Gomu Gomu no Mi Devil Fruit, definitely possesses extraordinary physical capabilities that go beyond those of a normal human. While it is true that Gojo's Domain Expansion would typically paralyze any ordinary person, Luffy's rubber body allows him to withstand and recover from attacks that would incapacitate others. Unleashed Potential: Gear 5 and Unknown Limitations It is indeed intriguing that we have yet to witness Luffy's full power in Gear 5, which could potentially push him even further beyond his current limits. Without concrete evidence, we can only speculate about the extent of his abilities and the potential drawbacks associated with them. Luffy's stamina limit is something that has been established, but it remains unclear what would happen if he were to "die" again, given the unique nature of his Devil Fruit. The paradoxical aspects of Luffy's fruit, which incorporates the abilities of multiple other fruits such as the Spring Fruit and the Yomi Yomi no Mi, add an extra layer of complexity to his potential limitations. The Braindead Advantage More a gag than anything, while the idea that Luffy being braindead could be advantageous may seem more like a comedic element, it does bring up an intriguing point. During the Skypiea arc, Luffy demonstrated the ability to temporarily "turn off" his brain, allowing him to bypass certain mental obstacles. Although this approach would bypass Gojo's Domain Expansion, it should be noted that Luffy would be unable to launch any attacks while in this state. Therefore, it would primarily serve as a defensive maneuver rather than an offensive strategy. Conclusion In conclusion, Luffy's unique abilities and potential limitations make for an interesting discussion. While we can make assumptions about his limits based on what we know, there are still many aspects of his powers that remain unexplored. Additionally, the idea of Luffy being braindead may have some comedic value, but its practicality in a battle against Gojo and his Domain Expansion is limited. Ultimately, only time will tell how Luffy's powers will continue to evolve and what new challenges he will face in the future.
Bro, no one in one piece is surviving UV, luffy with g5 would be unable to think would therefore be unable to do anything Don‘t try convincing other people that luffy‘ll win unless you actually watched jjk
It’s basically universally agreed that Luffy is atleast continental, putting him at the same ap as my hero characters is more than insane. For example, garp split a continent in his prime, whitebeard stated he could destroy the world (yes ik it’s a hyperbole be can’t destroy it literally but atleast the world as in like society or else they wouldn’t use such a reached hyperbole if there wasn’t some truth to it) luffys barajan gun being the size of onigashima ( country level feat just from size and mass alone not including actual attack power) etc.
@@dertanlee6510 one piece world is as big as our IRL sun,so islands in one piece are big ASF. Onigashima(the island kaido is raising in the sky) is bigger than a country,while jjk biggest jjk dc is max purple nuke,which desteoyed shinjuku (city level)
The way I understand domain expansions was that one needs cursed energy to be affected by domain, Maki and toji don't get affected by domains for that reason. Limitless is the only thing in that whole verse that luffy would have trouble dealing with, the stipulation here being that ryo doesn't just bypass it(you said that while using it luffy doesn't have to hit the opponent directly), everyone else gets one shot and speed blitzed tbh, espescially bc of how low durability is in the jjk verse
If you don’t have CE you won’t be effected by the sure hit, but you can still be effected by the environment of the domain a good example would be jogo’s. Gojos domain expansions overload is also from the environment. Ryou has the intent to harm somebkdy with haki from the inside. Gojos infinity works by sorting out attacks that are meant to hurt him. This is why it still blocks sukunas slashes even though he can’t see them coming lol.
@IMO3530 either way gojo still has to trap a luffy with future future sight that already massively outspeeds him within his domain expansion. Another dude in the comments said Em Waves don't always move at the speed of light, only in a vacuum. So the scaling to Lightspeed for jjk characters is kind of a highball
Luffy cant run out of the domain when hes exhausted, which would be the case because he has no way of getting past limitless which would be paired wiht his terrible stamina in gear 5. Em waves, and light beams in general are all relative in speed through vaccums and just normal space. SO saying that dodging em waves isnt a light speed feat is also saying that luffy dodging lasers isnt a light speed feat since em waves and light are inherently equal in speed whereever their traveling... @@LoneWolf-rg8gz
@@IMO3530I googled it and ur right about the em waves. Btw I'm not tryna hate on u or anything just tryna have a discussion. Tbh to solo the verse outside of gojo and sukuna luffy wouldn't even need gear 5 more like base luffy with advanced coc and Ryo speed blitz and one shots every single character except for some sorcerers from the heian era, the only counter to him is gojo and sukunas cleave and dismantle if he doesn't die first.
@@LoneWolf-rg8gz Kinda looks like delusion tbh you brought up a good point of him not even being able to be caught in the domain with speed and future sight and then he just starts going on about how he wouldn’t be able to escape, literally doesn’t make sense lmao he’s doin to everyone in his comments to it’s not worth the discussion because even if you have hard evidence literal facts people like this guy just deny everything once they come to their own conclusion.
Luffys attack speed is atleast light speed considering he kept up with kizaru who moves at light speed. Kizaru can also accelerate faster than light like he did to kick luffy.
@@heyarnold7256 no he wasnt lol, he could REACT to lightbeams, doesnt make HIM lightspeed though Keeping up (and even outspeeding) kizaru in the manga however does put his attack speed at ftl+
@@dertanlee6510 lightning isn't a thing you can touch either, yet Luffy still grabbed it He can do whatever he imagines So if he wants to touch infinity he will
@Yoiyoi-ln3ko rubber can in a way physically touch lighting since lighting doesn't pass through it, lighting just stops when it comes to contact with rubber
The only thing I would say if luffy can grab intangible things like lightning and by proxy affect kaidos beam with the rubber ground could you argue that Luffy could maybe grab infinity and take it off Gojo or something lmao 🤣 also I feel like you could maybe argue ryuo could get past it also luffy has pretty high battle iq so I’m sure he could maybe somewhat figure out how infinity works
Ryuo bypass all durability and you don't have to touch the opponent see how close jogo hand got to gojo that say a lot because Luffy use ryuo is a bypass yeah what he said in the video and Luffy can probably grab the limitless because he could literally touch intangible things such as lightning and light
@@joshuaanderson7027It’s not actually infinite as described in the manga but realistically it is but because ryo doesn’t need to hit its target then it can flow to its target and considering luffy doesn’t know about infinity he can imagine his attack hitting allowing it to hit. Only in g5 using ACoc
@@jdogjr5320 gear 5 has low levels of reality warping hes not bugs bunney he has limits and how would it flow thought its target when its doesnt even reach also why couldnt luffy imagine his attack hurting kaido when they first fought see what i mean i doesnt make sense
Two most important concerns that I didn’t address in the video “Domains only effects people with CE” The sure hit and the enveloping of the domain DOSENT effect people without CE, BUT the environment still can. Gojos information overload comes from the environment not the sure hit. For the enveloping I said luffy wouldn’t get caught in it but eventually would when he runs out of energy in G5 “Ryou can’t be seen so it can get through Gojos infinity” Infinity dosent need to see an attack to block it. It sorts out what to passively block by the danger it possesses. Which is why it blocked sukunas slashes which gojo couldn’t see during their fight
It should be noted that the domain information overload still wouldn't work on Luffy because haki allows the user to nullify any effects that aren't physical. Such as Law turning back into a man after being turned into a woman through sheer haki alone. Haki makes them immune to such effects.
@@Knull575 If by foreign energy you mean advanced armament, pretty sure the haki still has to move within the the target, so it would get stopped by infinity. If it instantly moved to a target, charters would just use it for long range, which is never shown.
if luffy is unaware of gojo's infinate void wouldn't he imagine himself landing a hit on him, as you said he wont imagine for somones power to disappear but if he is unaware of that power i think he would believe that he can punch gojo right from the start (because thats him main thing, punching people) and i think he would land a hit because imagining landing a hit is within his realm of imagination.
Wait If it's verse equality shouldn't haki nullify cursed energy and nullify infinite so shouldn't luffy just blitz one shot gojo edit: also if luffy can nullify cursed energy can he not just kill sukuna because sukuna is made from ce correct me if I'm wrong
@@keepingitreal727No. Haki doesn't just allow you to touch the body. Haki allows you to negate devil fruit effects. Law was turned into a female and then used haki to turn himself back. And Law isn't even that proficient with Haki like Luffy.
oh hell nah... bro scaled luffys reaction speed all the way down when bro can react WAY past mftl speed attacks and luffy is arguably planetary because he slammed doflamingo to the ground of dressrosa and that destroyed most of the city. Also luffy adapts to his previous strength and speed of his gears making his base form be as quick as them and THEN his gears have another multiplier on top of this cycling it over and over again. Also luffy pre-timeskip reacted to foxys beam which is light speed and he is much quicker at reacting now.
issue is if Luffy was mftl then that means that fluffy could travel the entire world in a few minutes. Which we all know just isn't possible in one piece world unless you have teleportation, Luffy IS NOT Faster than LIGHT!
@@p_rnhub i dont hear that "yOu cAnT bE fAstEr tHaN lIgHt bEcaUse thAt mEanS yOu cAn jUsT tRaVeL aRounlNd eArTh iN sEcONds!!!!1!1!" for any other anime
@@p_rnhub its stated in manga he quite literally is faster than light by being able to catch up to kizarus light beams and even be able to overwhelm is clones in a sense. You could say kizaru wasnt goin all out but his base speed is light speed.
@mathhomework69420 are you illiterate? You are wrong because your claim presupposes that the people in shibuya have no cursed energy which is incorrect. They do. And also they can be hit by the guaranteed hit effect. That's why gojo used his domain to incapacitate them. Literally everything you said is wrong proving my po8nt that jjk fans don't understand the basics of the verse.
@@cmonbruh6636well to be fair Luffy doesn't have an internal monologue only one in the manga and anime to not have one cos he says what he thinks so idk he's kinda permanently in that mode
@@thedarkd6 I don't think so. Mangas more source worthy than the anime and There's a difference in luffys appearance when he went into airhead so I don't think he's permanently in that mode. If he were it would look lile luffy is on pot 24/7
Air head should be able to get pass Unlimited Void, unlimited void targets the brain but it’s stated when Luffy uses Air Head, he turns off his brain. So unlimited void wouldn’t affect Luffy
he is lightspeed minimum💀we can tell that IMO prefers jjk (same) but this is unfair, jjk is in the triple digits in mach speed max, while luffy is prolly above lightspeed and every attack he does on city's or islands is a few times bigger than standard since the one piece globe is giant, this is cockmunching of the highest order and he still managed to pull it off
His ryou might be able to bypass limitless sense he can pass energy through things to reach a target. His rubber hax also might turn the limitless barrier into rubber and allow him to stretch it to hit Gojo.
just to say that infinity is not a barrier but could be a barrier but usually it is a detection system when any threat that is coming will be slow down by a compressed infinite space to the point it stops, so basically even if luffy can make infinity to rubber, he wouldn't able to touch gojo as another infinity will appear to replace it
@@ZAPRST8879 ryuo don't need to touch the opponent just get close there for bypass limitless because if gojo boby is still in the metaphysical world and ryuo is a soul manipulation type power I know it go straight for the organs it literally called internal destruction
@@thedkingluffy5853 there’s also the possibility that you can just overpower limitless. I mean luffys AP is higher than anything in jjk verse so he might just be able to power and speed through. Even if he can’t wouldn’t someone like goku, Saitama, Superman be able to just power through it?
I think.... this is why verse equalization is important, while I do agree that Jik definitely has some of the best hax that could one shot Luffy, you could also argue that conquerer's haki one shots any jjk character.Also i never heard that haki is emotion, I think it's mainly will power manifested that allows you to hit harder and by pass magic because you willed it, at least that's what the translation I got. And since jujutsu is jjk's magic system I think haki would probably bypass it, since narratively haki's whole point is so there aren't any hax battles, just the strongest slugging it out with strongest
I think too conquers would go through infinity if im not mistaken However strong willed and confident people (ex: gojo, sukuna) would prob not get knocked out by it
A meteor as the size of Wano island would literally destroys the entire (it doesnt explodes the planet or anything) Earth planet surface. So lets just assume that Bajrang gun is as strong as that meteor, so it could destroys the whole planet. But in One Piece, it is clearly that One Piece's planet isnt even gets affected at all. Plus since Bajrang Gun is very slow to actually make contact with the opponent and Kashimo is as fast as the speed of Light which is proven in the video. They would be able to dodge Bajrang Gun (unless he makes the Bajrang Gun bigger, which i doubt if Luffy have the Ability to do so since he lacks energies in Gear 5), this is shown in One Piece that the Wano Island have time to actually be moved from his attack. Advanced Conq Haki would be useless against Gojo's Infinity. Let's just assume that the JJK verse didnt dodge the attack. They would took direct hit from Bajrang Gun. Still with Gojo's Infinity Bajrang Gun wouldnt be able to do anything, not only that it'll creates a bigger opening for JJK verse to counter attack or They will just uses reversed Cursed Energy to heal themselves right away, so no. Bajrang Gun is not gonna actually kill JJK verse in just 1-shot.
Kashimo does not attack at lightning speed, he has an attack that is lightning. That attack was completely unavoidable to the point where it’s literally compared to a sure-hit. In fact I think the viz translation doesnt compare it and just says it is one without a domain, and Hakari couldn’t move out of the way despite having the advantage during the entire fight in hand to hand combat
he does not attack at lightning speed but he has lightning speed attacks which gojo scales above hakari in jackpot which should make gojo relitavistic or sol which isnt close to luffys speed which is mftl
@@juscripz1362The gap between lightning speed and even sub rela is huge you can't say Gojo is rela without proving it hes just vaguely faster than lightning
Just wait till Luffy destroys the redline. Also,as long as luffy can imagine hitting Gojo, I guarantee he'd hit him. Gojo would you would probably explain limitless to make it work better, and Luffy, not fully understanding limitless will just assume that since it incrementally makes him slower so he never reaches gojo, he just has to hit faster. His devil fruit would do the rest
Bruh the niga fruit does not bend reality it turns his surroundings into rubber But maybe he can change his surroundings into whatever he wants and since gojos limitless works at a space and atomic level luffy would indeed die Especially from them backshots
I ain't saying Nika ìs rubber So far it has only showed such power u cannot powerscale 'luffy' to Nika since luffy does not know Nika true potential YOU GET ME?
@@ERROR6097EDITS luffy learns as he goes, thats what gear 5 does, eventually hes gonna know how to use his power, he even grabbed the ground, aswell as grabbed lightning, but ye i understand
even before time-skip, Luffy could percept an attack from Mihawk and I'd assume Mihawk would be light speed if not faster. a post time-skip Luffy would be way faster plus gear boosts and future sight. i don't see him getting caught by the world cutting slash. Mihawk might not have been trying though or it was just plot armor but either way.
@@ImAlwaysOneStepAheadYeah light speed or near, this dude able to fight with Admirals, one of them have light speed, u cant beat Kizaru without if u are not fast enough
Lmao I’am not usually a hater but this community is actual booty, have y’all ever heard of being verbose because y’all say a whole lot with out actually saying anything, seriously you admit to their power systems not being equal and I agree this fight is impossible what’s stoping conquers haki from just knocking everyone out.
This is they type of community who gets mad at channels like death battle because they actually measure the destructive power of the character and give it to you in a mathematical number that actually makes sense instead if just saying “hes continental”🤓 when every continent has its own shape size and mass lmao I also dislike this community their delusional with the power scaling system.
@@yaboiluffy2833Then they’ll try to convince you their the ones who don’t know what their talking about, a lot of these guys can’t except the plain fact that it’s impossible to measure something like cursed energy or haki.
@@ganjaguy4206 Bro you can’t even measure past the speed of light it’s impossible the fastest thing we know of is light so for this guy to claim both universes can somehow precisely go 1.5-2 times past the speed of light is actual bs straight out the rear end you can’t just come up with a guesstimate otherwise I can just guess that luffy will be able to grab a hold of infinity and peel it off like an orange. For anyone reading you guys need to understand you can’t measure what doesn’t exist sure these animes are fiction and the author makes it known their able to go faster than light but there’s no way to measure that you can’t say luffy is 2x the speed of light exactly it literally doesn’t compute go back to science class.
@@yaboiluffy2833almost like they are fictional stories that don't have to line up with real world physics and logic 🙀🙀. The reason people say stuff like 2x the speed of light or mftl is because they are literally using the implications and logic that are presented to them. Say luffy can travel at light speed in his base form, then transforms into gear 2 which multiplies his physical capabilities by 10x then obviously he's gonna be able to travel 10x faster than light. Be4 you say some regarded shit like "errmm you can't travel faster than light 🤓" you can in a fictional story 😺
Gojo Sukuna are ftl+ at lowbar, Gojo's blue is technically warp which is faster than Light and kenjaku reacted to black hole whicch can even trap light, so even he is ftl+, which proves sukuna and Gojo to be on whole another level and Sukuna was using domain amplification to tank Gojo's attacks, so it is still likely that purple can indeed erase matter but Domain amplification nullified it
I get you cant equalize CE and Haki, but Isn't Luffy's conquerors enough to withstand the information overload of the infinite void?? And you ended the video saying Luffy will get tired... Top tiers in OP can fight for days (something we haven't seen in JJK) and Luffy doesn't need to use G5 to evade Gojo and Sukuna domain
He will probably pull out G4 or G5 in order to (attempt to) bypass infinity, which will be the point where the battle turns, because both forms result in major burnout which will let someone catch Luffy in a DE.
Things that yall are getting wrong. 1) "Ryou bypasses infinity" -ryou cannot bypass infinity because infinity isnt a barrier. It doesnt give any type of shield. What it does is bring the concept of infinity into reality. This basically means that it divides the space around gojo infinite times to an atomic level. Meaning that it takes an infinite number of steps to bypass it. And nothing can bypass that (because it is on an atomic level) except something that prevents the use of cursed energy. 2) "Lowballing Luffy" The reason this doesnt count as lowballing is beacause of 2 things 1) this is in cmparison to jjk 2) Gear 5 isnt as powerful as most people think. Although there is obvious showings of luffy being downgraded, the amount that its being done wont affect the fight as much. In this theory luffy is also being compared to people who have very different powers compared to him so in order to make it easier, comparisons are made that in reality wouldnt make sense. Gear 5 is the awakening of luffy's fruit which gives him the ability to allow him to do anything he imagines. Idk why anyone would assume that he can also impact the surroundings so much when u pit into consideration that luffy doesnt even know he can do this. Luffy is able to impact his surroundings but not to the point where he can imagine someones death and it happens. In my opinion: Strength: Luffy (noone in jjk has been seen pulling off the strength feats that luffy has) Speed: Luffy ( Explained in video) AP: Luffy (bajrang gun) DC: JJK (gojos hollow purple destroys absolutely anything and everything caught in the radius Durability: JJK (if we consider a person like mahitos idle transfiguration, luffy physically cant touch him unless hes touching the soul, which is impossible) HAX: JJK (Infinity) Combat: Draw (both sides have insane combat ability) Result: Its kinda wierd how this fight would go but if we consider everything then i think JJK wins EXTREME diff (mainly due to hax)
Mahito... that's all it takes, soul manipulation and Luffy would no longer be a person but more like a shriveled bean on the floor, if you mixed the peak skills, post blackflash Mahito+limitless+Domain = death to anything since all he has to do is be in contact with the person and I'm pretty sure since Luffy would try to tough him, he'd just get the cheese touch from Patchwork and be out.
@@Silver2891 not really, limitless = no hit from anything else, domain expansion = sure hit, Mahito's touch = soul destruction, he's not going to gumgum fix that... Def after blackflash when he becomes impossible to deal with and it takes another who can harm his soul to actually even damage him, would be the fastest no diff out of jumpkaisen, betting money if Mahito wasn't taken out when he was, he'd be FAR worse than Sukuna since he was still classified in his child stages.
@@HolesomeVRyou're assuming Mahito could even touch Luffy but I'm not here to debate speed am here to remind everyone Luffy doesn't need to touch you to deal damage. It's the entire basis of ryou/ advanced armament haki. Now let's factor in his insane Conquerors Haki and aCoc much higher AP and gear 5 yeah the JJK verse is kinda weak to him. Only ppl who pose viable threats to Luffy are Gojo due to infinity Sukuna coz of his slashing attacks and I forget toon forces name. Even still it is arguable that Luffy can bypass infinity as all it does is prevent someone from touching you and physical contact isn't needed for Luffy to deal damage. While Sukuna's slashes are deadly his outmatched in AP , speed and durability feats as far as I know I might be missing something. The battle of the toon force goats would be a hilarious watch actually. A solid argument can be made for these three but I just don't see Mahito winning. While his power is soul manipulation he would have to get in close and actually touch Luffy first. Even then Luffy is made out of rubber so deforming is body basically does nothing even so there's a chance he uses haki to just reverse the effects but that's a stretch. I mean if we get really technical he could probably trick Luffy into letting him close coz well it's Luffy 😂😂😂 but I still don't see how bending a rubber man's body affects them and since devil fruits are tied to one's soul Luffy's soul may just be as much rubber as he is.
When you put it like this it's way more plausible but still Luffy would have to be caught in the domain in the first place and also not be able to break out. Also the soul destruction isn't like it's being completely erased it's just being crushed unless am misremembering so he could still reform. Not much of a Jjk Stan so help me out here his domain expansion allows him to instantly be in contact with you at all times right like that's all I remember. When you're in it then his always touching you this he can spam his soul manipulation.??
if luffy is unaware of gojo's infinate void wouldn't he imagine himself landing a hit on him, as you said he wont imagine for somones power to disappear but if he is unaware of that power i think he would believe that he can punch gojo right from the start (because thats him main thing, punching people) and i think he would land a hit because imagining landing a hit is within his realm of imagination.
Even if he knew about Gojo's limitless, can't he just imagine himself making a punch that goes through? Like he seems like a really confident type of person. I'd imagine that would lead to him believing he can just break limitless because he's Luffy
1: luffy will never get caught in a domain because of FUTURE SIGHT, if its something that would kill him then luffy would see it and just get out the way. this is exactly why sukunas slash wont ever land also. 2: luffy dont need gear 5. even in base he has far superior stats and if you want to low ball him then gear 4 tops at most. 3: luffy can also rubberfy energy as seen with kaidos blast breath and lightning. so he can use sukunas slashes against them. (this is assuming he goes gear 5.) 4: gojo can also be killed through sukunas slash or luffy bouncing back purple (which is not existance erasure. check your facts) 5: if luffy straight up folds sukuna then they have no way of beating luffy.
Ryo wouldn't work on any jujutsu sorcerer because it was stated in the manga sorcerers have bodies which act like domains preventing things from spawning inside their body.... The only people who scale that ive seen implement this is death battle
@@WindowLife. Gojo controls what he lets into his infinity don't forget his infinity blocked sukunas slash which is pure Cursed energy... Don't start an argument with me lok
If Luffy scapes from a domain expansion, Gojo won't have his limitless technique for a few seconds after removing his domain (that's how he got sealed). He can get destroyed in those few seconds. A White Star Gun to the head and he's done
in the tournment to get Aces devil fruit (Mera mera) wasnt there a guy that was able to split a continent with a headbutt? If you dont have curse energy, the domain doesnt work, and you can just leave. to be honest if its Gojo it most likely a draw (Since luffy cant hit him and he is just to fast for any of Gojo abilities to hit him, there is an argument that if you are too fast for gojo you could bypass his infinity because he mentions that if an object is too fast he needs to do it manually, so if you are faster than Gojos reaction speed you could probably bypass infinity) if it Sukuna i could see luffy winning since he is way faster than him. and he can also see the future as well. (There is a thing sukuna states ''I was planning on slicing you into 3 pieces, but you are to weak'' giving the idea that if you are too strong maybe he wouldnt be able to cut you as much {idk if sukuna domain can work on people with no curse energy, if it cant then the domain is out of the question} but idk about the slicing part but is a possibility)
Bro, you said "no verse equalization for their power system" Aight. LUFFY DOESN'T HAVE CURSED ENERGY, like Toji and Maki, he would be immune to all domains except Sukuna's (Malevolent Shrine attacks EVERYTHING, with cursed energy or not) The sure hit effect of the Infinite Void would not reach him, since he doesn't have cursed energy. Conquerors haki it's stated to be capable of punching WITHOUT TOUCHING, so that could be enough to negate Infinity, even if not, at most the battle it's a draw, Gojo and Sukuna are getting speedblitzed HARD, they can't touch Luffy, it would be a draw between Gojo and Luffy AT BEST.
since the verse isnt equalized then luffy shouldnt be able to get caught in gojo domain. kenjaku and sukuna have no barriers so even without curse energy they still can be trapped, but gojo has a barrier for his domain meaning all those rules still apply to him. the sure hit effect and all those other things shouldnt work on luffy
Verses can’t inherently be equalized, I explained why in the video. Nvm I read ur comment wrong. The most effective donain in the series is Gojos which is why I went with it. The win con for jjk was to tire out luffy since he can’t hit him then use limitless void to finish him off. Limitless voids effect dosent depend on whether you have cursed energy or not, it attacks the senses of a person. It’s quite literally just a pocket dimension imbued with the characters cursed technique
@IMO3530 in order for a domain to target someone, they have to have CE. That's why most domains won't work on Maki and Toji. If it isn't equalized then most domains outside of Sukuna's(Since his targets everything without CE as well) then it shouldn't work on Luffy.
@@ibelieve8145the sure hit and the enveloping of the domain can only work if a target has CE that’s true. But the conclusion was that luffy would be too exhausted at the end which would lead to him just being entrapped in the domain. The infinite void has never been said to work specifically on cursed energy but it just fills your senses with infinite information. Just because it won’t be a sure hit dosent mean he still can’t be hit by the domain
@@ibelieve8145the information overload also isn’t the sure hit effect the overload comes from the environment as a whole. Meaning people who have a functioning brain can still be effected by it
@@IMO3530 Your conclusion is fine. I disagree with it but it's a fine argument. I think Luffy has enough AP to take out any JJK character in one or two hits but that's neither here nor there. If it is not equalized then Gojo's domain should work on luffy the same way it would work on a chair. If he doesn't have CE then he can't be targeted which means he can't be hit with unlimited information.
Whose to say luffy doesn't just conquer haki knock out the verse 😅. He can already dodge everything they throw at him, and his attacks are basically untraceable to most of the characters due to luffy not using cured energy. It would basically just be toji on steroids, plus toon force.
Fishman Island Luffy speedblitz and one taps everyone. The WCI->Egghead power creep is fucking insane. Chapter 1 Luffy * (Start Egghead)/(Start WCI) Is faster then mach 3. He definetly is > mac 3 if he has the RELATIVE boost from gear 2? Absolutely with gear 4 relative boost. And G5, if you think chapter 1 Luffy * G5 speed boost * (Egg/WCI) isn't >> mach 3, then you were reading 2 piece. --- G5 hax should skip limitless has he doesn't know about space. What happens is what he thinks should happen. And luffy wouldn't even listen or comprehend if limitless was explained to him. Luffy just follow 100% anime logic and so doesn't give a fuck about that. Plus, advanced conquerors and armament can attack from a distance from the inside. ---- But again, It's my dad is stronger then yours level debate.
If G5 luffy doesn't comprehend your ability, you just don't have it. For him to just not passively skip it, he needs to understand it and realise that it's impossible to hit a guy who's infinetly far away from you. But then, he might be able to just negate it with Toon Force.
Bro you forgetting that gojo and sukuna also have cursed energy which also is absolutely not unlimited so gojo and sukuna are also like Luffy with a time limit after that gear 5 runs out same as KitKat and sukuna will ran out of cursed energy so it's fair if not upperhand for Luffy Edit:- Plus Luffy with observation haki advanced can dodge almost any attack from jjk verse
Sabaody Luffy before timeskip is already light speed. The lasers are modeled after Kizaru, meaning they fire at light speed just as he does. Zoro dodged Kuma's paw pads while injured, which Kuma stated himself are light speed. Healthy Zoro upscales from injured Zoro and Luffy upscales from THAT. The downplaying on Luffy to pretend this is even a contest is insane lmao
Bro Reactions speed is when you can proceed something not dodge it and the distance dose not change how fast light travel luffy base at the begin of the Timeskip is 10-20x faster then lightning and I think gear 5 is a 40 times Increase in speed making luffy reach the MFTL+ at 800 times the speed of light and also you can lowball luffy strength to planter and a highball is the sun cause we just found out that it was a shield that could block the sun heat or even the sun it self and I think luffy can scale to that shield so yea you just luffy lowball my boy luffy
This is all a lie jjk is winning. You said jjk not gojo and sukuna, because this is all of jjk were talking about every single cursed spirit and if you ask me, there is about hundreds with all different abilities. This also means every one of their speeds, jogo is about the speed of sound, toji is about x2 the speed of sound. 20 finger hien era sukuna was about x4 the speed of light, and gojo being able t exterminate hundres of spirits in just .2 seconds is insane. Also means he is x2 the speed of light now this means you multiply then add all that together its obv faster than luffy. Strength goes to jjk: rika plus every single hien era cursed spirit were insanley strong. Cursed spirits are all strong from a humans energy, this also means their speed because sukuna made curses so strong this influences spirits even today. Yuta can copy abilities so yuta can really just copy luffy and everything about him. Not to mention jjk is all natural talent and strenght luffy got his from a god damn grimace shake sooo? And if were talking about the 2nd strongest from the hien era also means that weird girl who eas insanely strong. And also the fact the sukuna was able to put a ginourmous Crater in the biggest city in Shibuya in just one move without trying means that if he really put all his power into that move its donzon for anybody. Mahoraga is also adding his adapting ability which is now 5x more effective now that he has everybody else in the same body supporting that ability guess what if he can adapt that well now, it means that he will be able to adapt. This girls ability was to make "inconviences" sox times this means that he was able to survive death 6 times and now that everybody can support that it also means. That ability is about hundreds of times stronfer with everybody elses power. And if luffy "uses his imagination" this means that we could use those thousands of "inconviences" to counter that imagination. And we can just cut luffy in his base form with dismantle. 0.000000000001 second domain expansion: now we have everybodys power in a domain expansion, and im talkin bout every cursed spirit every human every single thing from hien era and shikigamis from thousands kf years ago. And yu thiught luffy could beat this? Wooww. Because we got all tthis we can use marlevleont shrine faster than luffy could react and instantly chop luffy in half.
Curses and sorcerers aren’t afraid of death, even horrible ones, it’s noted in the first few episodes that you need to be genuinely crazy to be a sorcerer
If haki and cursed energy aren't equalized then Gojo's passive Infinity isn't filtering out Conqueror's Haki because it isn't programmed to, as nobody in JJK is familiar with Haki, which means Luffy would be able to get a solid hit in before Infinity can be adjusted to filter it out
Hold on so you said haki and chakra are the same because they're both life force energy. (That's not the case since we've seen that the Naruto world was gifted chakra from Kaguya eating the chakra fruit) then say curses aren't the same because of how curses are negative emotions. You then use that to say conq wouldn't be able to bypass domian expansions. I disagree
The problem is if you don't equilize CE and say that people from the One Piece world have no CE then Gojo's domain is pretty much useless, because the domain itself would consider luffy an object, the same thing that happens with Maki or Toji; also I don't think that Gojo's infinity can stop Luffy's ryo, given that Sukuna's world cut targets space itself and not the objective, and ryo targets the inside of the target ignoring whatever is outside. On the other side at least Gojo and Sukuna are more than likely resistant to conqueror's haki because both of them have very strong spirits.
I think the best way to get one piece past sol is through ichijis light feat since its stated to be light in the vivre cards and how its been calced to be 8x ftl
While agree with most of the points the points i mainly disagree with is chakra is equivalent to haki when it's clearly shown to be not the case but I have seen other interpretations to see luffy winning
Hmmm. I understand the argument but im not sure i agree that limitless can filter out COC haki, whether it be the wave or advanced. But thats mostly my headcanon, regardless, Luffy doesn't need to go Gear 5 for this fight. Gojo also would probably explain Limitless to Luffy.
You literally said I wont do verse equalization. Unfortunately for you if you don't make verse equalization then Luffy has 0 cursed energy in other words gojo domain wouldn't work at all. As it has been explained through maki and toji they are undetectable by domains and immune to the sure hit effect. Aside from that even all the haki/cursed energy assumptions are simply absurd. Basically you allow 100% of cursed energy abilities to be manifested, but you negate one of the most basic haki hax which is negating anything it goes as far as negating intangibility which is a far more impressive feat than gojo's infinity. Jjk itself has the inverted spear of heaven with the same ability of basic armament haki which adds another layer of nonsense to your previous statements. It's like you allowed 100% of jjk abilities, but like 15% of one piece abilities. Even scrapping all i said before exactly how would someone hit a domain on a guy that can see 15 seconds into the future lol.
Purple doesn't erase matter, it's just virtual mass that goes forward, it's never stated or shown to be able to erase matter , that was just the headcanon of people.
I dont think you get how insane luffys battle iq is, he has been shown to be probably the most creative devil fruit user in the series. Also with luffy having a single mind goal for everything hed honestly most likely go unaffected by infinite void as he just does not care. And what you really have to understand about gear 5 is that it is toon force with imagination, hence the eyes popping out and luffy going giant
The downplaying of Luffy is absolutely insane, especially with the speed scaling. You are highballing JJk's speed while completely downplaying Luffy's speed, especially since there have been arguably light-speed feats before the time skip and before Wano, where Luffy levels up again and gains gear 5th. Also Luffy has the win condition of Advanc Conquor's Haki to bypass infinity as infinity needs to detect mass and speed to infinitly slow down a target. Advanced Conquer has no mass for it to slow down, and its whole power is bypassing defenses. This video needs to reevaluate the way it looks at one-piece scaling, as it has been far too disingenuous to these characters.
I mean, Luffys Haki that is essentially the same concept as Sukunas Space cutting bs when it doesn't need physical contact at all to hit. He would just use that Haki to punch Gojo directly without ever having to get blocked by infinity. Only way I see Infinity working in that case is if Gojo realizes what Luffy does and focuses and empoweres his passive, making the range longer. Since luffys haki punches probably have a max range at least. But at that point Gojo has to pour a lot of power into just maintaining that, which means he is using cursed energy at a faster pace than he can replenish it normally. Also I hate light speed scaling, it's dumb and if that was the case nobody would ever be able to see the fight if they are below those levels of power, but people can clearly tell what is going on when people "way above light speed" fight. Hence any lightspeed claims are bs until we actually get solid evidence feat-wise like in DC comics etc where it's literally properly shown that they're moving way beyond that speed. Either way. Just like Goku no diffs Luffy, Luffy low diffs JJK. (Unless he gets hit by infinity, which is a knockout no matter who you are since it's a hax ability beyond hax abilities targeting your mind directly, and Im not gonna say willpower just negates your brain getting overloaded with information, only people with esper powers of some sort would be able to deal with such attacks) Either way there's no real scenario where JJK wins this without landing unlimited void, which is a 50/50 gamble depending on how luffy reacts to it. The world slash Sukuna has would most likely do zero damage against haki, and even if we assume it is so hack that it literally just ignores all durability (including beings like Goku etc) as you said Luffy just dodges it without issue due to speed diff no matter if it is ftl or not. So the con is Unlimited Void hits, and Luffy gets killed by the world slash without being able to use haki or dodge it. So yeah the take is pretty aight imo. I still believe Luffy would win solely based on his advanced conq haki countering gojos passive.
what I think..? people rarely mention that but... limitless is curse technique at the end of the day which can be overpowered. if so, gear4 luffy can...
I'd argue luffy has two answers to infinite void. G5 gives him what is issentially toonforce.. if he were to only get spirals in his eyes, or take his brain and literally wring it out like a washcloth its possible if he found it funny. Or his ability to literally turn his brain off that he showed during Skypeia. Luffy could literally negate the infinite void by turning his brain off and not absorbing any information at all and simply reacting on instinct while in the domain.
The thing I don’t understand is how would limitless really affect luffy since luffy wouldn’t imagine his punch not taking effect on his opponent unless his opponent tells him. Luffy’s powers and abilities work how he imagines them to, ie why his punch reached island size (he could imagine a bigger punch). Since luffy is clueless on how jjk works, he wouldn’t imagine things the way they work in jjk. And how would limitless void work, can’t luffy just tank all the information because he is dumb or because his mind could “stretch”? Idk IMO many things wouldn’t work on my rubber boy. Also if there is no verse equalization, that means no one has haki, meaning no conquerors haki in jjk, meaning no one can counter luffys acoc knockout, and luffy can just knock them out with his mere presence. Also doesn’t acoa say in its definition that it allows the haki to go through the opponent’s defense (limitless in this case, which is a defensive ability) and harm them from the inside?
If gojo is able to use domain expansion ( a cursed energy technique) shouldn't luffy be able to use ryo and damage gojo without needing to touch him or go past his infinite?
I think the only thing that jjk could really do is the Domain bc if luffy thinks he can hit it he’s gonna hit it by coming up with a move. Luffy is insanely creative that plus ruyo or wtv it’s gg. If the jjk can get off the domain tho it’s also gg. Basically whoever can finish the fight faster but expect the fight to last to luffys time limit is dum bc most of this would be happening in seconds 🤷♂️
and luffy's conquerers haki is not just exerted on other people, but the world as well, so gojo should just be knocked out instantly when luffy goes G5
If you’re saying, Luffy gear five can’t do things cause he doesn’t know what they are, how is gojo limitless/infinty technique gonna register conquers haki? Like you said it Ce and haki completely diff in nature and can’t be equalized, so how is it fair to say that one power still triumphs over the other, Goyo’s technique throughout the series has been shown to be able to gauge things like velocity and density and cursed energy, this implication is that gojo can resist from most forms of cursed energy, and physical constructs(chairs,knives, bullets etc). How would Gojos technique register a force that is three things 1 a spiritual form of energy that gojo has no access or knowledge. 2 something he cannot be able to perceive to do lack of verse equalization and his lack of haki. And 3 how would limitless register something that its user cannot sense or see or understand or touch until it haki touches gojo. Conquers haki in its simplest forms is a wave of pressure in insisting on advanced conquers haki, how would the space being created to luffys advanced conquers interact with limitless Becasue saying that limitless just has the ability, when gojo wouldn’t know what haki is contradictory as to why luffy can’t use out of verse techniques he doesn’t have an understand or knowledge of them🤷🏾♂️
Totally agree with the end result, but some of the finer details I think are different, such as you scaling Luffy to multi-continental. Whitebeard was stated to be able to cause the end of the world as it was known, and even though this is not a world destroying feat, he is still shattering most of the crust of their world, a feat that is at least moon level. This is from a sick and dying Whitebeard, who scales to around Prime Rayleigh imo. Luffy is by now above prime Rayleigh. Speed is also lowballed, but I would need to re-research the subject to give proof, all I remember was my result was 35-70 times the speed of light. Great video otherwise, keep it up!
Luffy's hax are way more of a winner on the fact that hes the most determined to not go down, hes escaped death so often and got right back up to start running hands again. Top off the fact that he will regen his haki in roughly 10 minutes if he depletes, he can be put down for sure but it will be a slaughter before hes even injured.
ppl tends to use verse equalization but use it incorrectly. First of all, infinity only works on ppl with curse energy which luffy lacks, using verse equalization means infinity will work on luffy but that's all. No one uses verse equalization beyond that, it is well known that haki negates hax in the one-piece verse, but no one uses verse equalization to make that true in a verses battle. If verse equalization works luffy should be able to get past infinity with advance armament or COC. His speed far out scales gojo so he can dodge the hollow purple and if a domain expansion is used he can either speed blitz gojo or just move out of its range, he has future sight, so he is goona see it coming.
Now regardless to whether or not you’re downplaying Luffy you’re 100% being too charitable to jjk 😭
Huh so u saying luffy can kill jjk verse. My man sukuna or gojo itself destroys luffy
Luffy is island or continent level at max but Yuki can create backhoes capable of planetary destruction
Yuki died to a pokemon trainer and well. Future sight as well as conqueror is definetly making the jjk verse fold@@ERROR6097EDITS
@@ERROR6097EDITS island or continent level at max? dude the one piece world is nearly the size of the sun and onigashima is around the size of a planet, stop downplaying luffy when he has planetary+ feats when every jjk character has small city feats
Bruh u saying luffy is planetary first of all a person with no cursed energy cannot kill a curse so sukuna claps luffy has almost no form of healing but jjk verse has rct
luffy’s endurance is crazy he fought for like 8 hrs straight lol
11 hours 😅
@@gamersworld1561 exactly
Thats not endurance its stamina/resistance
@@orfaal.4 it goes hand in hand but when discussing a debate endurance means the pain you can take while in real life endurance goes for how much you can take in total
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Endurance and Stamina are the same thing
Both means how long u can last and how long u can tank
With bad Stamina, u can't tank much
Ngl you kinda downplaying luffy to make this fair 💀
Not at all, people just upscale him with inconsistent calc stacks 😂
@@IMO3530a character luffy before pre return to sabaody is implied to be light speed. To suggest luffy has at best gotten 2x faster since is insane… even ichiji has moved faster than light and was no diffed by Katakuri who was drastically holding back.
@@WindowLife. I disagree with all the light speed scaling besides the pacifistas beams which is a sub relativistic feat considering the distance and wind up
@@IMO3530 Then how about when luffy dodge kaido thunder bagua they said it was 5 x faster than light
Crazy lowball tbh
I love JJK but im going to keep it real JJK characters are getting folded but Majority of peoples top 20-30 character in one piece. Sukuna and Gojo getting folded by base luffy post wano
Could you explain how???
@@navhidahmed481luffy is rubber and rubber is stretchy so luffy can just stretch his balls across the universe and slap him in the face thus killing him
@@youraverageloserwell thats certainly one way luffy can fight
Valid scaling@@youraverageloser
@@navhidahmed481 He's scales FTLS and ACoC negs everyone in jjk.
Both ryou and Advanced Conquerors let him attack from the inside, also, Luffy is the kind of guy to think to make the air gum, so i don't think he wouldn't make the space between him and JJKman gum, also, i think he literally could see himself "punching harder than space" and think that could work. Another small thing, he was able to make cuts gum, and i can see him making one of the 3D cuts gum and send it back.
Great video
Haki wont work cuz he has to touch the physical body/object in order to destroy it from the inside. Also he won‘t get through infinity no matter what headcannon you pull outta your ass, I can maybe see him beating sukuna ( also sukuna won‘t get speedblitzed cuz of the kashimo feat) but against gojo, nah
One UV and it‘s over
@@Bottomsup1bro where you get your information from 😂
@@Bottomsup1 No he doesn't... during his bajrang gun he literally said he learned how to punch without making contact. The gap between his punches was literally big enough to fit a neighborhood in it, it's going right through gojo.
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nah I'd win
Famous last words of Gojo
Sakuna held back in the fight against gojo and beat gojo at full strength
Luffy downplay is insane 😂
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Luffy's Unique Abilities and Potential Limitations
Luffy, being a rubber-powered individual with the abilities of the Gomu Gomu no Mi Devil Fruit, definitely possesses extraordinary physical capabilities that go beyond those of a normal human. While it is true that Gojo's Domain Expansion would typically paralyze any ordinary person, Luffy's rubber body allows him to withstand and recover from attacks that would incapacitate others.
Unleashed Potential: Gear 5 and Unknown Limitations
It is indeed intriguing that we have yet to witness Luffy's full power in Gear 5, which could potentially push him even further beyond his current limits. Without concrete evidence, we can only speculate about the extent of his abilities and the potential drawbacks associated with them. Luffy's stamina limit is something that has been established, but it remains unclear what would happen if he were to "die" again, given the unique nature of his Devil Fruit. The paradoxical aspects of Luffy's fruit, which incorporates the abilities of multiple other fruits such as the Spring Fruit and the Yomi Yomi no Mi, add an extra layer of complexity to his potential limitations.
The Braindead Advantage
More a gag than anything, while the idea that Luffy being braindead could be advantageous may seem more like a comedic element, it does bring up an intriguing point. During the Skypiea arc, Luffy demonstrated the ability to temporarily "turn off" his brain, allowing him to bypass certain mental obstacles. Although this approach would bypass Gojo's Domain Expansion, it should be noted that Luffy would be unable to launch any attacks while in this state. Therefore, it would primarily serve as a defensive maneuver rather than an offensive strategy.
Conclusion
In conclusion, Luffy's unique abilities and potential limitations make for an interesting discussion. While we can make assumptions about his limits based on what we know, there are still many aspects of his powers that remain unexplored. Additionally, the idea of Luffy being braindead may have some comedic value, but its practicality in a battle against Gojo and his Domain Expansion is limited. Ultimately, only time will tell how Luffy's powers will continue to evolve and what new challenges he will face in the future.
I ain’t reading allat
@@tricky4650Are you illiterate? 💀
@@gragtatgaraboomnah bro that’s just someone being verbose aka word vomit y’all need to learn how to summarize not retype the whole wiki
@@ganjaguy4206 Or you can just choose whether to read or not, I mean this whole video could be considered a retype of a wiki :/
Bro, no one in one piece is surviving UV, luffy with g5 would be unable to think would therefore be unable to do anything
Don‘t try convincing other people that luffy‘ll win unless you actually watched jjk
It’s basically universally agreed that Luffy is atleast continental, putting him at the same ap as my hero characters is more than insane. For example, garp split a continent in his prime, whitebeard stated he could destroy the world (yes ik it’s a hyperbole be can’t destroy it literally but atleast the world as in like society or else they wouldn’t use such a reached hyperbole if there wasn’t some truth to it) luffys barajan gun being the size of onigashima ( country level feat just from size and mass alone not including actual attack power) etc.
Sure luffu is continental but his bigest fight is on a floating island and kaido and big mom couldnt kill anyone in that island
@@dertanlee6510 dude just say you havent watched one piece lmao when u said they didnt kill anyone on the island you are so wrong is crazy
@@dertanlee6510 one piece world is as big as our IRL sun,so islands in one piece are big ASF. Onigashima(the island kaido is raising in the sky) is bigger than a country,while jjk biggest jjk dc is max purple nuke,which desteoyed shinjuku (city level)
The way I understand domain expansions was that one needs cursed energy to be affected by domain, Maki and toji don't get affected by domains for that reason. Limitless is the only thing in that whole verse that luffy would have trouble dealing with, the stipulation here being that ryo doesn't just bypass it(you said that while using it luffy doesn't have to hit the opponent directly), everyone else gets one shot and speed blitzed tbh, espescially bc of how low durability is in the jjk verse
If you don’t have CE you won’t be effected by the sure hit, but you can still be effected by the environment of the domain a good example would be jogo’s. Gojos domain expansions overload is also from the environment.
Ryou has the intent to harm somebkdy with haki from the inside. Gojos infinity works by sorting out attacks that are meant to hurt him. This is why it still blocks sukunas slashes even though he can’t see them coming lol.
@IMO3530 either way gojo still has to trap a luffy with future future sight that already massively outspeeds him within his domain expansion. Another dude in the comments said Em Waves don't always move at the speed of light, only in a vacuum. So the scaling to Lightspeed for jjk characters is kind of a highball
Luffy cant run out of the domain when hes exhausted, which would be the case because he has no way of getting past limitless which would be paired wiht his terrible stamina in gear 5.
Em waves, and light beams in general are all relative in speed through vaccums and just normal space. SO saying that dodging em waves isnt a light speed feat is also saying that luffy dodging lasers isnt a light speed feat since em waves and light are inherently equal in speed whereever their traveling... @@LoneWolf-rg8gz
@@IMO3530I googled it and ur right about the em waves. Btw I'm not tryna hate on u or anything just tryna have a discussion. Tbh to solo the verse outside of gojo and sukuna luffy wouldn't even need gear 5 more like base luffy with advanced coc and Ryo speed blitz and one shots every single character except for some sorcerers from the heian era, the only counter to him is gojo and sukunas cleave and dismantle if he doesn't die first.
@@LoneWolf-rg8gz Kinda looks like delusion tbh you brought up a good point of him not even being able to be caught in the domain with speed and future sight and then he just starts going on about how he wouldn’t be able to escape, literally doesn’t make sense lmao he’s doin to everyone in his comments to it’s not worth the discussion because even if you have hard evidence literal facts people like this guy just deny everything once they come to their own conclusion.
Luffys cartoon ahh would just grab Infinity and throw it away 😭
Bro Frr 😭😂
Facts😂😂😂
Dawg think he tusk act 4🙏😭
Nah how infinity is infinit you can grab it
@@MATI640 simplify that please
Luffys attack speed is atleast light speed considering he kept up with kizaru who moves at light speed. Kizaru can also accelerate faster than light like he did to kick luffy.
Luffy was lightspeed at the start of the goddamn timeskip.
@@heyarnold7256 no he wasnt lol, he could REACT to lightbeams, doesnt make HIM lightspeed though
Keeping up (and even outspeeding) kizaru in the manga however does put his attack speed at ftl+
@@otto3944 Yes he objectively was. Literally outright stated they were slower than him.
@@heyarnold7256 he said "too slow", meaning they were too slow to hit him, not necessarily slower than himself
@@otto3944 Dude...if they were too slow to hit him then they were slower than himself. Theres literally no other meaning to it than that.
He could just imagine if punched hard enough he could get past infinity it would make sense for him to think that
Or he could rubberize eat and eat or something
I dont you understand what infinity is,its not a physical thing that block you,your attack will never reach cause its slowed infinitly
@@dertanlee6510 lightning isn't a thing you can touch either, yet Luffy still grabbed it
He can do whatever he imagines
So if he wants to touch infinity he will
@Yoiyoi-ln3ko rubber can in a way physically touch lighting since lighting doesn't pass through it, lighting just stops when it comes to contact with rubber
@@phantxmblxze rubber can conduct electricity but it's just bad at it
The only thing I would say if luffy can grab intangible things like lightning and by proxy affect kaidos beam with the rubber ground could you argue that Luffy could maybe grab infinity and take it off Gojo or something lmao 🤣 also I feel like you could maybe argue ryuo could get past it also luffy has pretty high battle iq so I’m sure he could maybe somewhat figure out how infinity works
nah infity is an infinte space between them he cant just grab it or use ryuo becuase the space is infinite
Ryuo bypass all durability and you don't have to touch the opponent see how close jogo hand got to gojo that say a lot because Luffy use ryuo is a bypass yeah what he said in the video and Luffy can probably grab the limitless because he could literally touch intangible things such as lightning and light
@@thedkingluffy5853 do you not understand what an infinite space between them means lol you know what the word infinte means right?
@@joshuaanderson7027It’s not actually infinite as described in the manga but realistically it is but because ryo doesn’t need to hit its target then it can flow to its target and considering luffy doesn’t know about infinity he can imagine his attack hitting allowing it to hit. Only in g5 using ACoc
@@jdogjr5320 gear 5 has low levels of reality warping hes not bugs bunney he has limits and how would it flow thought its target when its doesnt even reach also why couldnt luffy imagine his attack hurting kaido when they first fought see what i mean i doesnt make sense
Two most important concerns that I didn’t address in the video
“Domains only effects people with CE”
The sure hit and the enveloping of the domain DOSENT effect people without CE, BUT the environment still can. Gojos information overload comes from the environment not the sure hit. For the enveloping I said luffy wouldn’t get caught in it but eventually would when he runs out of energy in G5
“Ryou can’t be seen so it can get through Gojos infinity”
Infinity dosent need to see an attack to block it. It sorts out what to passively block by the danger it possesses. Which is why it blocked sukunas slashes which gojo couldn’t see during their fight
It should be noted that the domain information overload still wouldn't work on Luffy because haki allows the user to nullify any effects that aren't physical.
Such as Law turning back into a man after being turned into a woman through sheer haki alone. Haki makes them immune to such effects.
@@thatonenoob7854 No verse equalization means that wouldn't work, as that only applies to devil fruit abilities.
Shouldn't Luffy be able to pass through infinity since he uses foreign energy?
@@Knull575 If by foreign energy you mean advanced armament, pretty sure the haki still has to move within the the target, so it would get stopped by infinity. If it instantly moved to a target, charters would just use it for long range, which is never shown.
if luffy is unaware of gojo's infinate void wouldn't he imagine himself landing a hit on him, as you said he wont imagine for somones power to disappear but if he is unaware of that power i think he would believe that he can punch gojo right from the start (because thats him main thing, punching people) and i think he would land a hit because imagining landing a hit is within his realm of imagination.
Wait If it's verse equality shouldn't haki nullify cursed energy and nullify infinite so shouldn't luffy just blitz one shot gojo edit: also if luffy can nullify cursed energy can he not just kill sukuna because sukuna is made from ce correct me if I'm wrong
He mentioned that verses aren’t equalised
@@Muffin11262doesn't really tbh whole cake Luffy negs the verse except gojo since his infinity
Haki doesn’t nulfifiy shit just allows a person to touch a person true body but infinity is a barrier and not apart Jogo body
@@SilverSurfer1966 not “negs” mid diff is what i’d go with.
@@keepingitreal727No. Haki doesn't just allow you to touch the body. Haki allows you to negate devil fruit effects. Law was turned into a female and then used haki to turn himself back. And Law isn't even that proficient with Haki like Luffy.
oh hell nah... bro scaled luffys reaction speed all the way down when bro can react WAY past mftl speed attacks and luffy is arguably planetary because he slammed doflamingo to the ground of dressrosa and that destroyed most of the city. Also luffy adapts to his previous strength and speed of his gears making his base form be as quick as them and THEN his gears have another multiplier on top of this cycling it over and over again. Also luffy pre-timeskip reacted to foxys beam which is light speed and he is much quicker at reacting now.
issue is if Luffy was mftl then that means that fluffy could travel the entire world in a few minutes.
Which we all know just isn't possible in one piece world unless you have teleportation, Luffy IS NOT Faster than LIGHT!
@@p_rnhub i dont hear that "yOu cAnT bE fAstEr tHaN lIgHt bEcaUse thAt mEanS yOu cAn jUsT tRaVeL aRounlNd eArTh iN sEcONds!!!!1!1!" for any other anime
Luffy is not planetary yet 💀 love him but definitely not
how is luffy slamming a country sized country = planetary?
@@p_rnhub its stated in manga he quite literally is faster than light by being able to catch up to kizarus light beams and even be able to overwhelm is clones in a sense. You could say kizaru wasnt goin all out but his base speed is light speed.
Btw people without cursed energy cannot be caught in a domain
Jjk fans don't even understand their own verse
@mathhomework69420 who are they? Normal humans have cursed energy. Ofcourse they would be hit. That's why he could not use it in the first place.
I’m sure that’s from the canon fact that everybody expels some amount of cursed energy so it would effect them
@mathhomework69420 Generally speaking, living beings have cursed energy even the civilians. It's just very little. Thanks for proving my point.
@mathhomework69420 are you illiterate? You are wrong because your claim presupposes that the people in shibuya have no cursed energy which is incorrect. They do. And also they can be hit by the guaranteed hit effect. That's why gojo used his domain to incapacitate them. Literally everything you said is wrong proving my po8nt that jjk fans don't understand the basics of the verse.
Can't Luffy just use airhead technique to shut down his thoughts to withstand infinite void?
i mean he can but he probably wouldnt do that without knowledge of gojos technique beforehand
@@cmonbruh6636well to be fair Luffy doesn't have an internal monologue only one in the manga and anime to not have one cos he says what he thinks so idk he's kinda permanently in that mode
@@thedarkd6 I don't think so. Mangas more source worthy than the anime and There's a difference in luffys appearance when he went into airhead so I don't think he's permanently in that mode. If he were it would look lile luffy is on pot 24/7
Yes.
Air head should be able to get pass Unlimited Void, unlimited void targets the brain but it’s stated when Luffy uses Air Head, he turns off his brain. So unlimited void wouldn’t affect Luffy
That such a massive lowball on Luffy's speed 💀
Op caps at relativistic cry about🥱
he is lightspeed minimum💀we can tell that IMO prefers jjk (same) but this is unfair, jjk is in the triple digits in mach speed max, while luffy is prolly above lightspeed and every attack he does on city's or islands is a few times bigger than standard since the one piece globe is giant, this is cockmunching of the highest order and he still managed to pull it off
ong luffy is ATLEAST ftl+ thats still a high lowball
Luffy is not faster than Light, He is infact is LightSpeed
@@p_rnhub no he is faster then light and by a lot
14:02 Luffy would just turn his brain off like he did in Skypiea
It wouldn’t change anything 🤔
His ryou might be able to bypass limitless sense he can pass energy through things to reach a target. His rubber hax also might turn the limitless barrier into rubber and allow him to stretch it to hit Gojo.
just to say that infinity is not a barrier but could be a barrier but usually it is a detection system when any threat that is coming will be slow down by a compressed infinite space to the point it stops, so basically even if luffy can make infinity to rubber, he wouldn't able to touch gojo as another infinity will appear to replace it
@@ZAPRST8879 ryuo don't need to touch the opponent just get close there for bypass limitless because if gojo boby is still in the metaphysical world and ryuo is a soul manipulation type power I know it go straight for the organs it literally called internal destruction
@@thedkingluffy5853 there’s also the possibility that you can just overpower limitless. I mean luffys AP is higher than anything in jjk verse so he might just be able to power and speed through. Even if he can’t wouldn’t someone like goku, Saitama, Superman be able to just power through it?
@@spiritualliving8318you cant get pass limitless unless youre slashing/punching through ifiniite space like sukuna did
@@mtl_gaming2807 I mean Goku, Saitama and Superman can probably all do that 😅
I think.... this is why verse equalization is important, while I do agree that Jik definitely has some of the best hax that could one shot Luffy, you could also argue that conquerer's haki one shots any jjk character.Also i never heard that haki is emotion, I think it's mainly will power manifested that allows you to hit harder and by pass magic because you willed it, at least that's what the translation I got. And since jujutsu is jjk's magic system I think haki would probably bypass it, since narratively haki's whole point is so there aren't any hax battles, just the strongest slugging it out with strongest
Yeah no. Future Sight, higher speed, and 1 Conq taps all of JJK characters except Gojo due to infinity
I think too conquers would go through infinity if im not mistaken
However strong willed and confident people (ex: gojo, sukuna) would prob not get knocked out by it
@@CHEXCALIBRUHPG3D regular conq maybe, but prob not adv conq
@@naganut9718 yes
How does conqueror one shot everything in jjk ?
Gear 5 luffy isn't good for scaling, he's too unpredictable and oda doesn't care about power scales
Barjang gun wipes the whole planet 💀
Fax idk why this even is a debate
You people are delusional 💀
it wouldnt wipe the planet, but its attack radius would destroy them, not enough time for them to run away.
so it still would wipe
@user-oq4ef8bd9jbajrang gun is the size of an island, it also has adv conq and ryou so it is aloooooootttttt stronger than it looks
A meteor as the size of Wano island would literally destroys the entire (it doesnt explodes the planet or anything) Earth planet surface. So lets just assume that Bajrang gun is as strong as that meteor, so it could destroys the whole planet. But in One Piece, it is clearly that One Piece's planet isnt even gets affected at all. Plus since Bajrang Gun is very slow to actually make contact with the opponent and Kashimo is as fast as the speed of Light which is proven in the video. They would be able to dodge Bajrang Gun (unless he makes the Bajrang Gun bigger, which i doubt if Luffy have the Ability to do so since he lacks energies in Gear 5), this is shown in One Piece that the Wano Island have time to actually be moved from his attack. Advanced Conq Haki would be useless against Gojo's Infinity. Let's just assume that the JJK verse didnt dodge the attack. They would took direct hit from Bajrang Gun. Still with Gojo's Infinity Bajrang Gun wouldnt be able to do anything, not only that it'll creates a bigger opening for JJK verse to counter attack or They will just uses reversed Cursed Energy to heal themselves right away, so no. Bajrang Gun is not gonna actually kill JJK verse in just 1-shot.
Kashimo does not attack at lightning speed, he has an attack that is lightning. That attack was completely unavoidable to the point where it’s literally compared to a sure-hit. In fact I think the viz translation doesnt compare it and just says it is one without a domain, and Hakari couldn’t move out of the way despite having the advantage during the entire fight in hand to hand combat
he does not attack at lightning speed but he has lightning speed attacks which gojo scales above hakari in jackpot which should make gojo relitavistic or sol which isnt close to luffys speed which is mftl
@@juscripz1362The gap between lightning speed and even sub rela is huge you can't say Gojo is rela without proving it hes just vaguely faster than lightning
Luffy base with advanced armament is enough
XD
Fax tho
Just wait till Luffy destroys the redline. Also,as long as luffy can imagine hitting Gojo, I guarantee he'd hit him. Gojo would you would probably explain limitless to make it work better, and Luffy, not fully understanding limitless will just assume that since it incrementally makes him slower so he never reaches gojo, he just has to hit faster. His devil fruit would do the rest
Bruh the niga fruit does not bend reality it turns his surroundings into rubber
But maybe he can change his surroundings into whatever he wants and since gojos limitless works at a space and atomic level luffy would indeed die
Especially from them backshots
@@ERROR6097EDITS sir i advise you to edit the message before its too late
@@ERROR6097EDITS still under the impression nika is jus rubber 😂
I ain't saying Nika ìs rubber
So far it has only showed such power u cannot powerscale 'luffy' to Nika since luffy does not know Nika true potential
YOU GET ME?
@@ERROR6097EDITS luffy learns as he goes, thats what gear 5 does, eventually hes gonna know how to use his power, he even grabbed the ground, aswell as grabbed lightning, but ye i understand
even before time-skip, Luffy could percept an attack from Mihawk and I'd assume Mihawk would be light speed if not faster. a post time-skip Luffy would be way faster plus gear boosts and future sight. i don't see him getting caught by the world cutting slash. Mihawk might not have been trying though or it was just plot armor but either way.
Light speed 😂
@@ImAlwaysOneStepAheadYeah light speed or near, this dude able to fight with Admirals, one of them have light speed, u cant beat Kizaru without if u are not fast enough
@@KotITochka lightspeed is just over 1 billion kilometres an hour lol i highly doubt it
@@ImAlwaysOneStepAhead his whole ass devil fruit is the glint glint/light light fruit, he turns into light itself
@@Sarraft i was talking about mihawk not kizaru get your facts right before commenting bud.
Lmao I’am not usually a hater but this community is actual booty, have y’all ever heard of being verbose because y’all say a whole lot with out actually saying anything, seriously you admit to their power systems not being equal and I agree this fight is impossible what’s stoping conquers haki from just knocking everyone out.
This is they type of community who gets mad at channels like death battle because they actually measure the destructive power of the character and give it to you in a mathematical number that actually makes sense instead if just saying “hes continental”🤓 when every continent has its own shape size and mass lmao I also dislike this community their delusional with the power scaling system.
@@yaboiluffy2833Then they’ll try to convince you their the ones who don’t know what their talking about, a lot of these guys can’t except the plain fact that it’s impossible to measure something like cursed energy or haki.
@@ganjaguy4206 Bro you can’t even measure past the speed of light it’s impossible the fastest thing we know of is light so for this guy to claim both universes can somehow precisely go 1.5-2 times past the speed of light is actual bs straight out the rear end you can’t just come up with a guesstimate otherwise I can just guess that luffy will be able to grab a hold of infinity and peel it off like an orange. For anyone reading you guys need to understand you can’t measure what doesn’t exist sure these animes are fiction and the author makes it known their able to go faster than light but there’s no way to measure that you can’t say luffy is 2x the speed of light exactly it literally doesn’t compute go back to science class.
@@yaboiluffy2833 Straight facts and you’re delusional if you disagree you cannot just casually calculate past light speed lmao.
@@yaboiluffy2833almost like they are fictional stories that don't have to line up with real world physics and logic 🙀🙀. The reason people say stuff like 2x the speed of light or mftl is because they are literally using the implications and logic that are presented to them. Say luffy can travel at light speed in his base form, then transforms into gear 2 which multiplies his physical capabilities by 10x then obviously he's gonna be able to travel 10x faster than light.
Be4 you say some regarded shit like "errmm you can't travel faster than light 🤓" you can in a fictional story 😺
Gojo Sukuna are ftl+ at lowbar, Gojo's blue is technically warp which is faster than Light and kenjaku reacted to black hole whicch can even trap light, so even he is ftl+, which proves sukuna and Gojo to be on whole another level and Sukuna was using domain amplification to tank Gojo's attacks, so it is still likely that purple can indeed erase matter but Domain amplification nullified it
I get you cant equalize CE and Haki, but Isn't Luffy's conquerors enough to withstand the information overload of the infinite void??
And you ended the video saying Luffy will get tired... Top tiers in OP can fight for days (something we haven't seen in JJK) and Luffy doesn't need to use G5 to evade Gojo and Sukuna domain
He will probably pull out G4 or G5 in order to (attempt to) bypass infinity, which will be the point where the battle turns, because both forms result in major burnout which will let someone catch Luffy in a DE.
If Luffy scapes from a domain expansion, Gojo won't have his limitless technique for a few seconds. He can get destroyed in those few seconds
Things that yall are getting wrong.
1) "Ryou bypasses infinity"
-ryou cannot bypass infinity because infinity isnt a barrier. It doesnt give any type of shield. What it does is bring the concept of infinity into reality. This basically means that it divides the space around gojo infinite times to an atomic level. Meaning that it takes an infinite number of steps to bypass it. And nothing can bypass that (because it is on an atomic level) except something that prevents the use of cursed energy.
2) "Lowballing Luffy"
The reason this doesnt count as lowballing is beacause of 2 things 1) this is in cmparison to jjk 2) Gear 5 isnt as powerful as most people think.
Although there is obvious showings of luffy being downgraded, the amount that its being done wont affect the fight as much. In this theory luffy is also being compared to people who have very different powers compared to him so in order to make it easier, comparisons are made that in reality wouldnt make sense. Gear 5 is the awakening of luffy's fruit which gives him the ability to allow him to do anything he imagines. Idk why anyone would assume that he can also impact the surroundings so much when u pit into consideration that luffy doesnt even know he can do this. Luffy is able to impact his surroundings but not to the point where he can imagine someones death and it happens.
In my opinion:
Strength: Luffy (noone in jjk has been seen pulling off the strength feats that luffy has)
Speed: Luffy ( Explained in video)
AP: Luffy (bajrang gun)
DC: JJK (gojos hollow purple destroys absolutely anything and everything caught in the radius
Durability: JJK (if we consider a person like mahitos idle transfiguration, luffy physically cant touch him unless hes touching the soul, which is impossible)
HAX: JJK (Infinity)
Combat: Draw (both sides have insane combat ability)
Result:
Its kinda wierd how this fight would go but if we consider everything then i think JJK wins EXTREME diff (mainly due to hax)
this is the craziest and most bold luffy downplay I've seen
Mahito... that's all it takes, soul manipulation and Luffy would no longer be a person but more like a shriveled bean on the floor, if you mixed the peak skills, post blackflash Mahito+limitless+Domain = death to anything since all he has to do is be in contact with the person and I'm pretty sure since Luffy would try to tough him, he'd just get the cheese touch from Patchwork and be out.
King Kong Gun is all it takes to solo that fodder
Big brain
@@Silver2891 not really, limitless = no hit from anything else, domain expansion = sure hit, Mahito's touch = soul destruction, he's not going to gumgum fix that... Def after blackflash when he becomes impossible to deal with and it takes another who can harm his soul to actually even damage him, would be the fastest no diff out of jumpkaisen, betting money if Mahito wasn't taken out when he was, he'd be FAR worse than Sukuna since he was still classified in his child stages.
@@HolesomeVRyou're assuming Mahito could even touch Luffy but I'm not here to debate speed am here to remind everyone Luffy doesn't need to touch you to deal damage. It's the entire basis of ryou/ advanced armament haki. Now let's factor in his insane Conquerors Haki and aCoc much higher AP and gear 5 yeah the JJK verse is kinda weak to him. Only ppl who pose viable threats to Luffy are Gojo due to infinity Sukuna coz of his slashing attacks and I forget toon forces name. Even still it is arguable that Luffy can bypass infinity as all it does is prevent someone from touching you and physical contact isn't needed for Luffy to deal damage. While Sukuna's slashes are deadly his outmatched in AP , speed and durability feats as far as I know I might be missing something. The battle of the toon force goats would be a hilarious watch actually. A solid argument can be made for these three but I just don't see Mahito winning. While his power is soul manipulation he would have to get in close and actually touch Luffy first. Even then Luffy is made out of rubber so deforming is body basically does nothing even so there's a chance he uses haki to just reverse the effects but that's a stretch. I mean if we get really technical he could probably trick Luffy into letting him close coz well it's Luffy 😂😂😂 but I still don't see how bending a rubber man's body affects them and since devil fruits are tied to one's soul Luffy's soul may just be as much rubber as he is.
When you put it like this it's way more plausible but still Luffy would have to be caught in the domain in the first place and also not be able to break out. Also the soul destruction isn't like it's being completely erased it's just being crushed unless am misremembering so he could still reform. Not much of a Jjk Stan so help me out here his domain expansion allows him to instantly be in contact with you at all times right like that's all I remember. When you're in it then his always touching you this he can spam his soul manipulation.??
how can jjk verse characters hit logia fruit users without armament haki or other hakis
if luffy is unaware of gojo's infinate void wouldn't he imagine himself landing a hit on him, as you said he wont imagine for somones power to disappear but if he is unaware of that power i think he would believe that he can punch gojo right from the start (because thats him main thing, punching people) and i think he would land a hit because imagining landing a hit is within his realm of imagination.
Even if he knew about Gojo's limitless, can't he just imagine himself making a punch that goes through?
Like he seems like a really confident type of person. I'd imagine that would lead to him believing he can just break limitless because he's Luffy
What about ryou I mean it's not necessary to make contact
literally not how g5 works
@@tarambukis-c2q what's up, the man who knows how gear 5 works, you ok 👋
@@Mr.white.. learn how to use punctuation dawg that sentence makes so little sense it should be studied
1: luffy will never get caught in a domain because of FUTURE SIGHT, if its something that would kill him then luffy would see it and just get out the way. this is exactly why sukunas slash wont ever land also.
2: luffy dont need gear 5. even in base he has far superior stats and if you want to low ball him then gear 4 tops at most.
3: luffy can also rubberfy energy as seen with kaidos blast breath and lightning. so he can use sukunas slashes against them. (this is assuming he goes gear 5.)
4: gojo can also be killed through sukunas slash or luffy bouncing back purple (which is not existance erasure. check your facts)
5: if luffy straight up folds sukuna then they have no way of beating luffy.
Ryo wouldn't work on any jujutsu sorcerer because it was stated in the manga sorcerers have bodies which act like domains preventing things from spawning inside their body.... The only people who scale that ive seen implement this is death battle
It doesn’t spawn into their body it goes into their body. Unless you’re saying jjk characters can breathe… or digest
@@WindowLife. Gojo controls what he lets into his infinity don't forget his infinity blocked sukunas slash which is pure Cursed energy... Don't start an argument with me lok
@@FINAR1ZZUIt starts from their body 💀
@@gragtatgaraboom If u haven't read the jjk manga then bro 😭
@@FINAR1ZZU That's... not have ryou works... or conqueror's coating...
If Luffy scapes from a domain expansion, Gojo won't have his limitless technique for a few seconds after removing his domain (that's how he got sealed). He can get destroyed in those few seconds. A White Star Gun to the head and he's done
Stop yappin
How would he know if the limitless is technique is down?
Observation haki detecting how gojo knows hes fucked@@darkmenma305
in the tournment to get Aces devil fruit (Mera mera) wasnt there a guy that was able to split a continent with a headbutt?
If you dont have curse energy, the domain doesnt work, and you can just leave.
to be honest if its Gojo it most likely a draw (Since luffy cant hit him and he is just to fast for any of Gojo abilities to hit him, there is an argument that if you are too fast for gojo you could bypass his infinity because he mentions that if an object is too fast he needs to do it manually, so if you are faster than Gojos reaction speed you could probably bypass infinity)
if it Sukuna i could see luffy winning since he is way faster than him. and he can also see the future as well. (There is a thing sukuna states ''I was planning on slicing you into 3 pieces, but you are to weak'' giving the idea that if you are too strong maybe he wouldnt be able to cut you as much {idk if sukuna domain can work on people with no curse energy, if it cant then the domain is out of the question} but idk about the slicing part but is a possibility)
Yes, there is also the guy literally named "The continent puller"
Bro, you said "no verse equalization for their power system" Aight. LUFFY DOESN'T HAVE CURSED ENERGY, like Toji and Maki, he would be immune to all domains except Sukuna's (Malevolent Shrine attacks EVERYTHING, with cursed energy or not)
The sure hit effect of the Infinite Void would not reach him, since he doesn't have cursed energy.
Conquerors haki it's stated to be capable of punching WITHOUT TOUCHING, so that could be enough to negate Infinity, even if not, at most the battle it's a draw, Gojo and Sukuna are getting speedblitzed HARD, they can't touch Luffy, it would be a draw between Gojo and Luffy AT BEST.
since the verse isnt equalized then luffy shouldnt be able to get caught in gojo domain. kenjaku and sukuna have no barriers so even without curse energy they still can be trapped, but gojo has a barrier for his domain meaning all those rules still apply to him. the sure hit effect and all those other things shouldnt work on luffy
Verses can’t inherently be equalized, I explained why in the video.
Nvm I read ur comment wrong. The most effective donain in the series is Gojos which is why I went with it. The win con for jjk was to tire out luffy since he can’t hit him then use limitless void to finish him off. Limitless voids effect dosent depend on whether you have cursed energy or not, it attacks the senses of a person. It’s quite literally just a pocket dimension imbued with the characters cursed technique
@IMO3530 in order for a domain to target someone, they have to have CE. That's why most domains won't work on Maki and Toji. If it isn't equalized then most domains outside of Sukuna's(Since his targets everything without CE as well) then it shouldn't work on Luffy.
@@ibelieve8145the sure hit and the enveloping of the domain can only work if a target has CE that’s true. But the conclusion was that luffy would be too exhausted at the end which would lead to him just being entrapped in the domain. The infinite void has never been said to work specifically on cursed energy but it just fills your senses with infinite information. Just because it won’t be a sure hit dosent mean he still can’t be hit by the domain
@@ibelieve8145the information overload also isn’t the sure hit effect the overload comes from the environment as a whole. Meaning people who have a functioning brain can still be effected by it
@@IMO3530 Your conclusion is fine. I disagree with it but it's a fine argument. I think Luffy has enough AP to take out any JJK character in one or two hits but that's neither here nor there. If it is not equalized then Gojo's domain should work on luffy the same way it would work on a chair. If he doesn't have CE then he can't be targeted which means he can't be hit with unlimited information.
Whose to say luffy doesn't just conquer haki knock out the verse 😅. He can already dodge everything they throw at him, and his attacks are basically untraceable to most of the characters due to luffy not using cured energy. It would basically just be toji on steroids, plus toon force.
Bro's boutta make a basketball outta hollow purple
Never let this man cook again 😭🙏
Luffy would just continue punching gojo without dealing damage until gojo surrounder or his brain burnt
As a OP guy myself, Jjk wins. Periodt
Fishman Island Luffy speedblitz and one taps everyone.
The WCI->Egghead power creep is fucking insane.
Chapter 1 Luffy * (Start Egghead)/(Start WCI)
Is faster then mach 3. He definetly is > mac 3 if he has the RELATIVE boost from gear 2?
Absolutely with gear 4 relative boost.
And G5, if you think chapter 1 Luffy * G5 speed boost * (Egg/WCI) isn't >> mach 3, then you were reading 2 piece.
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G5 hax should skip limitless has he doesn't know about space. What happens is what he thinks should happen.
And luffy wouldn't even listen or comprehend if limitless was explained to him.
Luffy just follow 100% anime logic and so doesn't give a fuck about that.
Plus, advanced conquerors and armament can attack from a distance from the inside.
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But again, It's my dad is stronger then yours level debate.
If G5 luffy doesn't comprehend your ability, you just don't have it.
For him to just not passively skip it, he needs to understand it and realise that it's impossible to hit a guy who's infinetly far away from you.
But then, he might be able to just negate it with Toon Force.
Bro you forgetting that gojo and sukuna also have cursed energy which also is absolutely not unlimited so gojo and sukuna are also like Luffy with a time limit after that gear 5 runs out same as KitKat and sukuna will ran out of cursed energy so it's fair if not upperhand for Luffy
Edit:- Plus Luffy with observation haki advanced can dodge almost any attack from jjk verse
Gojo: *uses domain expansion*
“Now your brain will be fried”
Luffy : “ you can’t fry anything if there is nothing”
*uses bajarang gun*
jjk: 💀
Sabaody Luffy before timeskip is already light speed. The lasers are modeled after Kizaru, meaning they fire at light speed just as he does. Zoro dodged Kuma's paw pads while injured, which Kuma stated himself are light speed. Healthy Zoro upscales from injured Zoro and Luffy upscales from THAT. The downplaying on Luffy to pretend this is even a contest is insane lmao
Bro Reactions speed is when you can proceed something not dodge it and the distance dose not change how fast light travel luffy base at the begin of the Timeskip is 10-20x faster then lightning and I think gear 5 is a 40 times Increase in speed making luffy reach the MFTL+ at 800 times the speed of light and also you can lowball luffy strength to planter and a highball is the sun cause we just found out that it was a shield that could block the sun heat or even the sun it self and I think luffy can scale to that shield so yea you just luffy lowball my boy luffy
This is all a lie jjk is winning. You said jjk not gojo and sukuna, because this is all of jjk were talking about every single cursed spirit and if you ask me, there is about hundreds with all different abilities. This also means every one of their speeds, jogo is about the speed of sound, toji is about x2 the speed of sound. 20 finger hien era sukuna was about x4 the speed of light, and gojo being able t exterminate hundres of spirits in just .2 seconds is insane. Also means he is x2 the speed of light now this means you multiply then add all that together its obv faster than luffy.
Strength goes to jjk: rika plus every single hien era cursed spirit were insanley strong. Cursed spirits are all strong from a humans energy, this also means their speed because sukuna made curses so strong this influences spirits even today. Yuta can copy abilities so yuta can really just copy luffy and everything about him. Not to mention jjk is all natural talent and strenght luffy got his from a god damn grimace shake sooo? And if were talking about the 2nd strongest from the hien era also means that weird girl who eas insanely strong. And also the fact the sukuna was able to put a ginourmous Crater in the biggest city in Shibuya in just one move without trying means that if he really put all his power into that move its donzon for anybody.
Mahoraga is also adding his adapting ability which is now 5x more effective now that he has everybody else in the same body supporting that ability guess what if he can adapt that well now, it means that he will be able to adapt.
This girls ability was to make "inconviences" sox times this means that he was able to survive death 6 times and now that everybody can support that it also means. That ability is about hundreds of times stronfer with everybody elses power. And if luffy "uses his imagination" this means that we could use those thousands of "inconviences" to counter that imagination. And we can just cut luffy in his base form with dismantle.
0.000000000001 second domain expansion: now we have everybodys power in a domain expansion, and im talkin bout every cursed spirit every human every single thing from hien era and shikigamis from thousands kf years ago. And yu thiught luffy could beat this? Wooww. Because we got all tthis we can use marlevleont shrine faster than luffy could react and instantly chop luffy in half.
If anyone saw luffy in the jjk universe them mfs would be shitting bricks and running away they do not want the smoke with luffy
Curses and sorcerers aren’t afraid of death, even horrible ones, it’s noted in the first few episodes that you need to be genuinely crazy to be a sorcerer
If haki and cursed energy aren't equalized then Gojo's passive Infinity isn't filtering out Conqueror's Haki because it isn't programmed to, as nobody in JJK is familiar with Haki, which means Luffy would be able to get a solid hit in before Infinity can be adjusted to filter it out
Hold on so you said haki and chakra are the same because they're both life force energy. (That's not the case since we've seen that the Naruto world was gifted chakra from Kaguya eating the chakra fruit) then say curses aren't the same because of how curses are negative emotions. You then use that to say conq wouldn't be able to bypass domian expansions. I disagree
The reason I disagree is because conquers is Will power that's exerting force. I believe that should be able to bypass domian expansions
The problem is if you don't equilize CE and say that people from the One Piece world have no CE then Gojo's domain is pretty much useless, because the domain itself would consider luffy an object, the same thing that happens with Maki or Toji; also I don't think that Gojo's infinity can stop Luffy's ryo, given that Sukuna's world cut targets space itself and not the objective, and ryo targets the inside of the target ignoring whatever is outside. On the other side at least Gojo and Sukuna are more than likely resistant to conqueror's haki because both of them have very strong spirits.
I think the best way to get one piece past sol is through ichijis light feat since its stated to be light in the vivre cards and how its been calced to be 8x ftl
Bonney: Give me a 'I beat Gojo'-ish future!!!
Gojo:Infinite void
Luffy:turns of brain
While agree with most of the points the points i mainly disagree with is chakra is equivalent to haki when it's clearly shown to be not the case but I have seen other interpretations to see luffy winning
luffy's too dum for infinite void to effect him
Or his brain would get cartoonishly big in gear 5
smart dumb you're still getting screwed over by ULV
Luffy van bypass the infinite with his advance armament haki and advanced conqueror haki..
Luffy claps JJK verse both ways 💀🙏
Hmmm. I understand the argument but im not sure i agree that limitless can filter out COC haki, whether it be the wave or advanced. But thats mostly my headcanon, regardless, Luffy doesn't need to go Gear 5 for this fight. Gojo also would probably explain Limitless to Luffy.
Bro ignoring the light novel when luffy dodge kaido thunder bagua moving 5x faster than light
You literally said I wont do verse equalization. Unfortunately for you if you don't make verse equalization then Luffy has 0 cursed energy in other words gojo domain wouldn't work at all. As it has been explained through maki and toji they are undetectable by domains and immune to the sure hit effect. Aside from that even all the haki/cursed energy assumptions are simply absurd. Basically you allow 100% of cursed energy abilities to be manifested, but you negate one of the most basic haki hax which is negating anything it goes as far as negating intangibility which is a far more impressive feat than gojo's infinity. Jjk itself has the inverted spear of heaven with the same ability of basic armament haki which adds another layer of nonsense to your previous statements. It's like you allowed 100% of jjk abilities, but like 15% of one piece abilities. Even scrapping all i said before exactly how would someone hit a domain on a guy that can see 15 seconds into the future lol.
Chopper dodged light beams point blank I think you're downplaying Luffy's speed here
Purple doesn't erase matter, it's just virtual mass that goes forward, it's never stated or shown to be able to erase matter , that was just the headcanon of people.
@@mathhomework69420 how? Toji was fodder to gojo anyway.
@@mathhomework69420 I mean it wasn't a clean cut, but if he was so weak that it could go through him like that he is truly the apple'd one.
The punch from luffy was calculated to he able to destroy a continent.
The Luffy's downplay is just something else there
I dont think you get how insane luffys battle iq is, he has been shown to be probably the most creative devil fruit user in the series. Also with luffy having a single mind goal for everything hed honestly most likely go unaffected by infinite void as he just does not care. And what you really have to understand about gear 5 is that it is toon force with imagination, hence the eyes popping out and luffy going giant
Counter argument dagon opens a domain and spawns luffy in water
The downplaying of Luffy is absolutely insane, especially with the speed scaling. You are highballing JJk's speed while completely downplaying Luffy's speed, especially since there have been arguably light-speed feats before the time skip and before Wano, where Luffy levels up again and gains gear 5th. Also Luffy has the win condition of Advanc Conquor's Haki to bypass infinity as infinity needs to detect mass and speed to infinitly slow down a target. Advanced Conquer has no mass for it to slow down, and its whole power is bypassing defenses. This video needs to reevaluate the way it looks at one-piece scaling, as it has been far too disingenuous to these characters.
His imaginative powers could destroy the limitless. Regardless of the fact haki would do nothing but help him dodge .
Luffy: Casually emits a conquerors haki blast
The verse: *Knocked the fuck out*
I mean, Luffys Haki that is essentially the same concept as Sukunas Space cutting bs when it doesn't need physical contact at all to hit. He would just use that Haki to punch Gojo directly without ever having to get blocked by infinity.
Only way I see Infinity working in that case is if Gojo realizes what Luffy does and focuses and empoweres his passive, making the range longer. Since luffys haki punches probably have a max range at least. But at that point Gojo has to pour a lot of power into just maintaining that, which means he is using cursed energy at a faster pace than he can replenish it normally.
Also I hate light speed scaling, it's dumb and if that was the case nobody would ever be able to see the fight if they are below those levels of power, but people can clearly tell what is going on when people "way above light speed" fight. Hence any lightspeed claims are bs until we actually get solid evidence feat-wise like in DC comics etc where it's literally properly shown that they're moving way beyond that speed.
Either way. Just like Goku no diffs Luffy, Luffy low diffs JJK. (Unless he gets hit by infinity, which is a knockout no matter who you are since it's a hax ability beyond hax abilities targeting your mind directly, and Im not gonna say willpower just negates your brain getting overloaded with information, only people with esper powers of some sort would be able to deal with such attacks) Either way there's no real scenario where JJK wins this without landing unlimited void, which is a 50/50 gamble depending on how luffy reacts to it. The world slash Sukuna has would most likely do zero damage against haki, and even if we assume it is so hack that it literally just ignores all durability (including beings like Goku etc) as you said Luffy just dodges it without issue due to speed diff no matter if it is ftl or not. So the con is Unlimited Void hits, and Luffy gets killed by the world slash without being able to use haki or dodge it.
So yeah the take is pretty aight imo. I still believe Luffy would win solely based on his advanced conq haki countering gojos passive.
What is the background music in Enel video?
what I think..? people rarely mention that but...
limitless is curse technique at the end of the day which can be overpowered. if so, gear4 luffy can...
I'd argue luffy has two answers to infinite void. G5 gives him what is issentially toonforce.. if he were to only get spirals in his eyes, or take his brain and literally wring it out like a washcloth its possible if he found it funny.
Or his ability to literally turn his brain off that he showed during Skypeia. Luffy could literally negate the infinite void by turning his brain off and not absorbing any information at all and simply reacting on instinct while in the domain.
bruh it's just a 2 vs 1 at the end
The thing I don’t understand is how would limitless really affect luffy since luffy wouldn’t imagine his punch not taking effect on his opponent unless his opponent tells him. Luffy’s powers and abilities work how he imagines them to, ie why his punch reached island size (he could imagine a bigger punch). Since luffy is clueless on how jjk works, he wouldn’t imagine things the way they work in jjk. And how would limitless void work, can’t luffy just tank all the information because he is dumb or because his mind could “stretch”? Idk IMO many things wouldn’t work on my rubber boy. Also if there is no verse equalization, that means no one has haki, meaning no conquerors haki in jjk, meaning no one can counter luffys acoc knockout, and luffy can just knock them out with his mere presence. Also doesn’t acoa say in its definition that it allows the haki to go through the opponent’s defense (limitless in this case, which is a defensive ability) and harm them from the inside?
If gojo is able to use domain expansion ( a cursed energy technique) shouldn't luffy be able to use ryo and damage gojo without needing to touch him or go past his infinite?
I think the only thing that jjk could really do is the Domain bc if luffy thinks he can hit it he’s gonna hit it by coming up with a move. Luffy is insanely creative that plus ruyo or wtv it’s gg. If the jjk can get off the domain tho it’s also gg. Basically whoever can finish the fight faster but expect the fight to last to luffys time limit is dum bc most of this would be happening in seconds 🤷♂️
Stop yappin
The entirety of Jujutsu Kaisen could Jump Luffy and Gear 2 would be enough🗿
The only thing that could stop luffy would be the purple technique
and luffy's conquerers haki is not just exerted on other people, but the world as well, so gojo should just be knocked out instantly when luffy goes G5
Clearly biased and doesnt understand the levels between each verse 👎
Fr tho one piece characters are simply way faster than jjk characters
Law speedblitz and neg diffs jjk verse
Everyone forgetting about reverse cursed technique and its regenative ablity
If you’re saying, Luffy gear five can’t do things cause he doesn’t know what they are, how is gojo limitless/infinty technique gonna register conquers haki? Like you said it Ce and haki completely diff in nature and can’t be equalized, so how is it fair to say that one power still triumphs over the other, Goyo’s technique throughout the series has been shown to be able to gauge things like velocity and density and cursed energy, this implication is that gojo can resist from most forms of cursed energy, and physical constructs(chairs,knives, bullets etc). How would Gojos technique register a force that is three things 1 a spiritual form of energy that gojo has no access or knowledge. 2 something he cannot be able to perceive to do lack of verse equalization and his lack of haki. And 3 how would limitless register something that its user cannot sense or see or understand or touch until it haki touches gojo. Conquers haki in its simplest forms is a wave of pressure in insisting on advanced conquers haki, how would the space being created to luffys advanced conquers interact with limitless Becasue saying that limitless just has the ability, when gojo wouldn’t know what haki is contradictory as to why luffy can’t use out of verse techniques he doesn’t have an understand or knowledge of them🤷🏾♂️
Totally agree with the end result, but some of the finer details I think are different, such as you scaling Luffy to multi-continental. Whitebeard was stated to be able to cause the end of the world as it was known, and even though this is not a world destroying feat, he is still shattering most of the crust of their world, a feat that is at least moon level. This is from a sick and dying Whitebeard, who scales to around Prime Rayleigh imo. Luffy is by now above prime Rayleigh. Speed is also lowballed, but I would need to re-research the subject to give proof, all I remember was my result was 35-70 times the speed of light. Great video otherwise, keep it up!
Ryou and advanced conquerer would go trough infinity, since it attacks from the inside as well.
He would imagine him being able to punch him
Luffy's hax are way more of a winner on the fact that hes the most determined to not go down, hes escaped death so often and got right back up to start running hands again. Top off the fact that he will regen his haki in roughly 10 minutes if he depletes, he can be put down for sure but it will be a slaughter before hes even injured.
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@@dupql if you finna dicksuck jjk to high degree I can't stop you but don't come at me when you don't have solid facts
like yall jjk fans arent yapping lmao luffy fols sukuna then ur verse doesnt stand a chance because yall cant hurt luffy@@dupql
ppl tends to use verse equalization but use it incorrectly. First of all, infinity only works on ppl with curse energy which luffy lacks, using verse equalization means infinity will work on luffy but that's all. No one uses verse equalization beyond that, it is well known that haki negates hax in the one-piece verse, but no one uses verse equalization to make that true in a verses battle. If verse equalization works luffy should be able to get past infinity with advance armament or COC. His speed far out scales gojo so he can dodge the hollow purple and if a domain expansion is used he can either speed blitz gojo or just move out of its range, he has future sight, so he is goona see it coming.
Luffy who'd amagen hitting gojo and do it
Weakened Zoro was light speed pre timeskip in thriller bark
He dodged Kuma’s pad cannons literally said to be air reflected at light speed
Kashimo’s attacks aren’t light speed. They are hypersonic
Imagine Luffy imaging not getting cut but cut attacks 💡even luffy would think of that in battle, thats game!
sick video, I feel like luffy speed maybe downplayed tho. also idk if domain would affect luffy if he has no CE
Luffy's brain would automatically expand to fit the knowledge, and all of it is gonna go outa his ears. He ain't built for intelligence...