Tips for making 'complicated' models easy to paint! (with the Black Orc Warboss for The Old World!)

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  • @tervindar507
    @tervindar507 7 місяців тому +16

    The thing that I always struggle with is the when “its good enough”. Like I don’t need to paint the 36 men at arms more than a tabletop standard but then you feel you could do better. It’s a hard mental balance.
    As always love your content and approach to painting armies.

    • @Modge17
      @Modge17 7 місяців тому

      Maybe batch painting would help? That way you can apply paint in steps and see how they look together as a unit!

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      I know exactly how you feel. And I feel the same.

  • @dominiccote6184
    @dominiccote6184 7 місяців тому +6

    I love your videos and especially this one with your “rant.” I got into the hobby when I was 13 or so with Warhammer Rogue trader and didn’t paint my first model till I was in my mid to late 20’s. Now in my late 40’s my eye sight is going and I just need to say this is good enough from three feet away, will I win awards? No, do I love watching other people’s painting videos? Yes, but I really needed to hear your “rant,” and I hope more people hear it as well….time to stop my rant….

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      I’m really glad it helped pal. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @michaelford4148
    @michaelford4148 7 місяців тому +1

    So glad you’re continuing Old World models! I’m looking forward to seeing how you paint the Handmaiden on unicorn.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Will be painting that as soon as I get it!

  • @Jason-man-in-black
    @Jason-man-in-black 7 місяців тому +1

    Great job on this one Andy, it’s a great sculpt and really nice to see him painted up. I personally love all the detail on their minis it just makes them seem more alive when finished and a higher quality product overall. But I also completely agree with you not everyone of the details needs to be painted like your trying to win a golden demon, some parts of the mini need to be treated like background as that’s what they are essentially like the leather that makes necklace on this guy, it’s background for the heads and skulls that hang off it. We need more creators reminding us of these facts in videos, so well done again.

  • @mrtricorder
    @mrtricorder 7 місяців тому +1

    I really do appreciate you making these fantastic models accessible for lower tier painters

  • @froehmar
    @froehmar 7 місяців тому +1

    YAY! Always happy to see new Old World videos from you

  • @cillamccarthy6987
    @cillamccarthy6987 7 місяців тому

    I've never heard the term dressing the mini. See I always finish with the skin to tie everything together but then I spent a fair amount of time painting 15mm and the last touch of some flesh tones really makes the model pop.
    I'm slowly building up my painting mojo again. I always struggle with when to stop on a model. Especially when insta and other social media bombards you with these high end paint jobs constantly. That's why I like you're channel Andy and your paint style. It's a good tabletop plus standard that everyone can achieve. From that base level of painting you can then come back as you want and take it further.
    Something I personally struggle with is getting a whole army painted up... I've only ever managed it a few times. I love to see a continuation of the dogs or war and how you approach that as a whole army project. The intro where u built up the army was a good start. I've tried to replicate this by building a 1000pt list for a game then get those minis done. Confidence is another issue I have at times. I want to get things painted but I feel like if I don't give every mini my best I'm not pushing myself hard enough or valuing the mini. But that means nothing gets finished which hits motivation levels. I'm trying to paint to a good level like you produce ATM. Then I feel I can come back later and do finer detail's etc.
    Keep up the good work Andy I do enjoy your more relaxed content. It's bringing back my joy for the hobby again. Something I lost with meta chasing and trying to keep up with all the latest releases etc. it just can't be done all the time and we all have that pile of potential.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Cheers pal. All army projects are slow and you have to accept that and not put pressure on yourself. Just take them one unit at a time and you will be surprised how quickly you have an army ready.

  • @isophistchambers6694
    @isophistchambers6694 7 місяців тому

    "Dressing the mini" is definitely the method that WHTV has taught me! It works great, but I was never cognizant of it. Thanks for the brilliant advice about moving light to dark with contrast paints! I generally get caught in decision paralysis figuring out where to start, which leads to less hobby and more stress. Lastly, I really enjoyed this presentation method of talking theory while you're painting. Your insight is incredibly valuable. I realize that could be a big ask and some might see it as just waffling over video, but it's kind of like getting a podcast discussion AND a painting tutorial video. I hope I look back at this video when I finally confront my anxiety about painting orks. Cheers, Andy!

  • @brokenheroics8223
    @brokenheroics8223 7 місяців тому

    Thats a bueatiful model. Ill have to pick it up one day. Great job.

  • @sethran9447
    @sethran9447 7 місяців тому

    Nice work on an excellent model - i was a tad concerned when you said just silver armour, but the oxide really helped!

  • @ashleygibson2141
    @ashleygibson2141 7 місяців тому

    Awesome video as always Andy. And full of nostalgia!! I haven't heard the phrase "dressing the miniature" for over 15 years :D - I had forgotten it...

  • @JohnnyTightIips
    @JohnnyTightIips 7 місяців тому

    Gorgeous result! distinct lack of cork though haha
    I paint mainly with contrasts these days and try to do lightest to darkest as you said. Helps cover my mistakes :)

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Hahhaa I figured he was cool enough already. No need for more cork.

  • @mjhsinclair
    @mjhsinclair 7 місяців тому

    Nice. I like these meta videos every so often and he’s a cool orc. :)

  • @TheFawz
    @TheFawz 7 місяців тому

    That Contrast pot at 1:54 really seems like it could use a good mixing, maybe with some bearing balls and a sonic mixer

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      It was shaken before o used it don’t worry.

  • @pete104242
    @pete104242 7 місяців тому +1

    thank for the video, complicated is a true issue for me, painting up sisters of battle and not only is there so much detail it can be hard to even detect the edges unless you prime them light and put a wash on first. any tips on that would be very much appreciated

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      If you want to keep them dark. Spray black and drybrush them a dark brown. The details pop and it doesn’t the final result.

  • @colinplatt1963
    @colinplatt1963 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video Andy, a great follow up to your Lion El Johnson video!

  • @scroggie_mini_painting3983
    @scroggie_mini_painting3983 7 місяців тому

    Cheers Andy! Really appreciate you breaking down the barriers to painting and it was very helpful. Any plans to paint any of the Wyvern minis or the giants that recently went on sale?

  • @thanasisgeronimos9124
    @thanasisgeronimos9124 7 місяців тому +1

    for DnD too..... i wouldnt add that nihilak oxide , i would add some colored metallic from ak ...i have a turquoise blue that with silver makes it feel like magic..anyway awesome mini..it could be the boss to an orc clann in DnD and have the players feel they have met their match

  • @stuartlennon9511
    @stuartlennon9511 7 місяців тому

    I like your approach and mantra 👍🏻maybe add to tell us what brush your using and why that size. Maybe include how long it took to paint it so people can manage their expectations. Any mistakes you made. Cheers!

  • @ric01232001
    @ric01232001 7 місяців тому

    Love watching you paint, helps me motivate to do more!

  • @chrissteadman4614
    @chrissteadman4614 7 місяців тому

    Excellent vid'; full of good advice. Thanks Andy 👍

  • @graemenoble7722
    @graemenoble7722 7 місяців тому

    Such a stunning mini!!! Great Job!!

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Cheers pal.

    • @graemenoble7722
      @graemenoble7722 7 місяців тому

      @MediocreHobbies just ordered one! Time to start some orcs and goblins then 🤣🤣🤣

  • @_walruseater
    @_walruseater 7 місяців тому

    Hey Andy, Have you tried Pro Acryl Transparent paints yet? Huge fan of those for contrast-like results, especially their black.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      I haven’t yet! Will try get some soon to try, and I’ll make sure I test the black-thanks for that!

  • @martialdoctor3482
    @martialdoctor3482 7 місяців тому

    Love this model and video here! 👍🏻
    I’m a completely newb painter and trying to find the time (I’m very busy) and motivation to do it.
    When painting large armies like this, do you (and others on here) tend to paint them model by model or groups at a time? I have my unit of swordmasters coated and ready to paint. I’m just curious as to how I should go about painting them.
    Thanks I’m advance.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      Groups for all units. And then individual for characters.

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. 7 місяців тому

    3:22 I was assembling some new lizardmen while looking over the cities of Sigmar sprues I just bought and it’s getting worse.
    I started the hobby with 3rd edition 40k 20 years ago and I just turned 42 so I have plenty of experience working with everything including FW. Even with perfect 20/20 vision and video game reflexes I’m now having trouble just seeing and holding new GW minis to assemble the let alone painting. I cannot imagine being an older hobbyist with glasses or someone with poorer eye hand coordination. There’s a such thing as too much detail and too many tiny pieces to assemble making subassemblies harder, we reached that awhile ago.
    I remember doing Dark Eldar at release thinking those would be the most complex minis possible and they’re honestly straightforward compared to releases the last five years like the AT Reaver titan. 😂

    • @Fortunes.Fool.
      @Fortunes.Fool. 7 місяців тому

      8:45 that took me years to realize 😅

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Haha yep. They are insane these days.

    • @Fortunes.Fool.
      @Fortunes.Fool. 7 місяців тому

      @@MediocreHobbies And you're killing it with the Old World, I love it.

  • @TheBackbunner
    @TheBackbunner 7 місяців тому

    Not really a “complicated”model question, but I want to work on my Nighthaunt and I’m curious if I can get that nice color transition easily by using a heavy dry brushing or would a green shade over a white basecoat be good enough?

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      You can do both. A drybrush and then a shade over the top to add depth.

    • @TheBackbunner
      @TheBackbunner 7 місяців тому

      @@MediocreHobbies didn’t think of that, thank you!

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      @@TheBackbunner anytime pal.

  • @madmerlinsart
    @madmerlinsart 7 місяців тому

    Great model. I just don't get on with green skins. 😅
    I've been on a spray-athon and got a bunch of models ready to paint, including the last 2 Knights for my first Lance and a bunch of Bretonnian characters.
    I'm eagerly awaiting the Beastmen release as they will be my next army.

  • @Azrieth
    @Azrieth 7 місяців тому

    Valdor from the heresy range I think is one of the best examples of a overly busy models gw do. I would love valdor to use in a game but would not want to tackle that model.

  • @mattobrien4849
    @mattobrien4849 7 місяців тому +1

    Secret hidden tip - cut off all those extraneous doodads and file down before priming.
    This is how I learned that one chaos knight has 128 rivets on it.😂

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Hahaha even that seams like a lot of work.

  • @inquisitorsneed2
    @inquisitorsneed2 7 місяців тому

    I know this video is nothing to do with bretonnia but im just wondering is the errantry crusades a trap? I want a full knight list if possible

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      No it’s a great list. Not a trap at all just be aware of the errant knights getting pulled out of your line.

    • @inquisitorsneed2
      @inquisitorsneed2 7 місяців тому

      @@MediocreHobbies nice one man, you'll be seeing the crusades of avalon coming to Dublin tournaments in no time

  • @leecave8574
    @leecave8574 7 місяців тому

    I love the comment 'Let no miniature stand in your way'

  • @nickdavis5420
    @nickdavis5420 7 місяців тому +1

    The death rattle I’m painting them and it’s kinda a pain .

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      They can be so much detail on such big units.

    • @nickdavis5420
      @nickdavis5420 7 місяців тому

      @@MediocreHobbies yeah not to mention I’ve already broken spears so I’ve saved the broken bits to glue to the base .

  • @Kyojuruzi
    @Kyojuruzi 3 місяці тому

    wheen u paint this black armor orc?

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  3 місяці тому

      What do you mean?

    • @Kyojuruzi
      @Kyojuruzi 3 місяці тому

      @@MediocreHobbies sorry, I mean Black Orc Mob

  • @ravenousmask4159
    @ravenousmask4159 5 місяців тому

    Looks good, but it looks like a common orc than a black orc. A black orc got a very dark green skin, close to black. Like dark angels green.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  5 місяців тому

      Dark Angels Green isn't close to black :D It's very dark green like the skin here!

  • @Chr1s_90
    @Chr1s_90 7 місяців тому

    👍

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому +1

      Cheers.

    • @Chr1s_90
      @Chr1s_90 7 місяців тому

      @@MediocreHobbies Cheers mate. Amazing content as always.

  • @jeffholt9437
    @jeffholt9437 7 місяців тому

    Just looked at the GW website for this model - actually think yours is a better paint job...

  • @crisisgear
    @crisisgear 7 місяців тому

    Why do I feel like someone needs to green stuff the horn on his shoulder pad into a squig sausage for ease of battle snacking? Will say when it comes to painting I've never liked the term table top standard, one persons table top standard is another's high detail (or the other way around). Don't chase a standard just paint within your capabilities and try to enjoy the process.

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      I think you’re missing the mark. I mean I can paint to a higher standard but I won’t be doing that on every miniature . Somthing a it’s ok to paint to a lesser standard.

    • @crisisgear
      @crisisgear 7 місяців тому

      O no wasn't getting on at you, just the actual term itself. Probably me just being silly, but I panic myself with models I paint hoping they are viewed as table top standard, instead of focusing on if I feel I have done a good enough job that I think they are a table top standard myself. Did like the tip on painting from the inside/core by the way, a good way to break it down. Hopefully I cleared up any confusion caused by me 😅

  • @youtubevanced4900
    @youtubevanced4900 7 місяців тому

    GW are still really stuck in the mindset of just cramming everything with detail.
    3D printing modellers did this a couple years ago.
    The 3D printing makers have finally started to shift away from this mentality. Understanding you can have an incredible model without overloading the model with garbage.
    That model is so overly busy. Detracts from the overall sculpt because you can’t focus on anything. That model would be better if it didn’t have the necklace, remove the fur thing on the shoulder. Remove all that garbage on his back.
    Nice Paint job. Well done.

  • @timraymond8245
    @timraymond8245 7 місяців тому

    Silver doesn’t tarnish that way. 😂

    • @MediocreHobbies
      @MediocreHobbies  7 місяців тому

      Did you even watch the video. You buffoon.