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In my country apples are just the favourite prop of local movie makers. They're cheap to buy in bulk, don't need to be cooked or a foodstylist, and can survive a long filming day.
Truck driver at my job took a single bite of an apple and then threw it out the window of his truck into the parking lot, where it would have to be picked up by the morning cleaning crew. Can confirm by experience that apple-biters are no good
I think milk also indicates how the evil character is doing his horrible actions while being sober, that person didn’t use any substances to make himself more angry or violent, that is just the way they are
I see it as a way of showing they’ve always been this way. Since milk is typically drank as a child, I think it shows that they’re choosing not to mature from their evil thoughts and embracing their upbringing.
I know this is about fictional characters, but this hits WAY too close to home for my dad's outlook on life. Funnily enough, his favorite drink is milk
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Children don't have a clear sense of what is right or wrong, and if they do, they still don't know deeply the consequences of their actions. From the gaze of mature adults, children are "stupid"; then, a person who don't know (or choose to not know) what their actions lead to is considerably stupid too.
In Yu Yu Hakusho, the villain Toguro declines a glass of alcohol and instead asks for orange juice. A lot has been said about this scene, but personally I like to think that it's to show that he wants to be in control, mostly of himself. If he were to dull his senses with alcohol he might make rash or foolish decisions, but most importantly he might numb himself. To someone who already views most of the world as weak and boring, he wants to be acutely aware of everything around him so that when he finally does face something that challenges him, he can truly experience it with 100% clarity.
Milk is something you drink when you feel safe: at home, with your mom, or before going to sleep. It's also one of the first foods humans began to produce in an industrial way when we learned how to keep cattle. It means that you are in control of the situation (compare the milk that Alex drinks at the beginning of A Clockwork Orange with the wine and meal he is forcefully served afterwards). Hans Landa drinks milk because he controls the situation, completely. Anton Chigurh drinks milk because he's always in absolute control. The Dude, on the other hand, drinks White Russians because he'd love for once, to be in control of the situation, but the drink is laced with vodka, because his life is quite chaotic.
In that particular situation, the Kosher law is over-ridden by self-preservation, so eating the strudel and enjoying it to not arouse suspicion of the SS captain would have been fine. Incidentally: it's the filo pastry shell which could, but not necessarily, have pork lard in it.
@luca bertani That literally has nothing to do,fool. I have to do it like that because of course they have anything bad you can say about them censored on this shitty website
Landa making Shoshanna wait for the cream (dairy) to be mixed with the pastry, made probably from lard (already not kosher itself) is brilliant as a detail. He probably was testing her or already knew who she was. What I love about this detail is that no character does an exposition about that, the same way that nobody in the film seems to notice he's checking one of the farmer's daughter's pulse.
Maybe the drinking of milk by the villain represents the villain consuming the innocent (if milk represents innocence or an innocent beverage or as a food sustenance of innocents eg) babies, children)?
Consider this from the perspective of a bartender; a martini is stirred to maximize the chill of the drink without actively diluting it or making it full of air. Shaking a drink introduces a large amount of air into the mixture, while also crushing up ice and melting it quickly to make the drink even colder. While it’s not by a significant amount, James Bond’s “Gin/Vodka martini shaken not stirred” is him ordering a weakened version of the classic drink, which prevents him from becoming too intoxicated while on the job, without making him stand out too much by ordering a classy drink in a high-brow environment
Definitely gives hope that the upcoming movie "The Menu" could also be the same way with food being a subtle nod to the evil that lies within the chef and his crew.
I just realised that milk symbols innocence. So Hans consuming milk is a metaphor for him exploiting the innocent for his own wants and desires, he also asks for the milk from LaPetite which could hint to Hans later making LaPetite confess. All linking to Hans's cunning and manipulative villany.
there's also something genius about using food before introducing a violent scene. eating engages the parasympathetic nervous system, disengaging fight/flight response. watching someone eats also triggers our physiological mechanism to mirror responses related to eating, likely due to the existence of mirror neurons. (this probably also makes the villains relatable). as a result, any ensuing shock will throw off the audience & kickstart the sympathetic nervous system violently into a fight/flight reflex. smart of tarantino to utilizes this biopsychological mechanism, whether he's aware of it or not
I reckon villains drinking milk is also a simple expectation subversion. You would expect, based on stereotypes, that such hardened people doing such hardened things would be drinking badass beverages like alcohol. But instead, they drink a simple, more commonplace beverage; a simple expectation subversion that often neatly mirrors their character, simple and even likeable on the surface, sinister and calculating beneath.
As a linguistic aside, the hand gesture Has Landa does when saying "bravo" to the farmer's cows and family is a perfect example of an ancient hand sign from France. It looks a bit like the "OK" sign but the pads of the fingers are pinched together and it represents running your fingers along a section of hand-spun thread to check for fineness and a lack of lumps. It means "finest kind". Hans is being more French than the actual Frenchman.
I completely agree with Tarantino creating hunger or thirst for the item on screen. There is a scene in Django where they pour beer. Immediately after the movie, we went to the bar and grabbed a beer, because of the craving that the scene created.
Hell yeah I would go see that for the representation of a minority overlooked for too long! Those of us who had to struggle through the years when soy was the only alternative, and soy milk tastes like whale semen. I'm tearing up just thinking about it 😅😅
The Jelly Donut in Full Metal Jacket is a symbolism of what Private Pyle is gonna turn into because he can't do anything right with basic training to be a marine. When he says he's too heavy and hungry, it indicates if he'll survive under Private Joker's leadership of teaching him to be a killer in the outside world and not let the thoughts of Sgt. Hartman get in the way of turning himself into a monster.
The fun fact about food in the movies or TV shows that nobody speaks at all is the fact that most of the times the actor has to spit the food they were eating when the scene is over or cut because any movie scene requires several shots for each scene, if an actor eats what we see it's eating he may get feel full by the time they shot for 9th time the same restaurant scene. Normally each dish on scene was prepared several times and the actor may just bite it, end the scene, spit the bitten food and then film again with a new dish. I've been in movie sets and the amount of food that gets wasted in the projects is insane, that's why several directors avoid the eating scenes and instead they start to film when the dinner is almost over.
The other underrated power-move with food: when a villain invites the protagonists to a luxurious feast to simultaneously display how much wealth they possess and how little they fear/respect their adversaries.
In death, note light ate an apple after Ryuk did who is a God of death. Hinting that his killcount is that of a God of death. Also it represents his manipulation and loss of innocence as well since apples increase intellectual function and light is an intellectually superior individual whom is seen manipulate people with more and more finesses and even sadisticly enjoys every step of the way as opposed to his initial self that only would manipulate people strictly for his plans to pan out
The entire intro frames Light as a God. Biting the apple is just a biblical reference. Also, that show is literally the definition of satanic. Because satanism is where you worship yourself.
This is really interesting, and I'd love to see more videos on the topic. Food can seem as a background prop but I love the added symbolism that it can hold.
I think they just do that to show that villains are also human beings as drinking something so mundane that everybody does shows that despite their horrible actions they are still down to earth (which kinda makes it even more scary knowing that these people are no different from us)
I think that in films, drinking milk can also signify the act of taking or stealing. Milk is something naturally formulated for the baby, and dairy is typically for calves. Whenever a bad character lavishes on milk without a care in the world, it sort of sets the tone for the character in regards to their disregard of taking without consequence. Basically a step short of eating veal, caviar, or eggs. It can also indicate a liking or tolerance to western culture, the main consumers for drinking plain milk from a glass.
Homelander is interesting because at first it seems like he just has mommy issues. But then later it becomes clear that it's not the mother figure he craves, just her milk. He’s such a weird character.
Think of him as if he dosnet get what he wants he will die. Its clear he dissacoates when hearing things that dont match up. Throw in the fact he dosent know how to look at his emotions in the face, literally the mirror scene.
He's fixated on consumption. He's unable to enjoy human connections, while simultaneously craving them. The only thing he understands is consumption, so he grows attached to whatever he can consume. It makes sense, because it's a problem a lot of real people have.
One food from a comic that stands out is in Yhe Killing Joke during the Jokers flashbacks a phew different characters are eating Lobster, the mobsters at the bar have a bucket and later when Joker is home talking to his wife there are lobsters on thr table. I always wandered what it symbolized
Having read the original novel "A Clockwork Orange" which the movie of the same name is based on, the milk that is being drank in the scene is supposed to be laced with a drug. There were bars, specifically called "milk bars", for drinking the drugged milk described in the novel
Okey, hear me out... There's this chapter in JoJo's... Where someone has an orange but the orange it's a bomb and the one who made the bomb ended up blowing himself up with the orange... But anyways, great video, I never realized how much of a story can the food tell
“My name is Yoshikage Kira. I’m thirty three years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I get home every day by eight pm at the latest. I don’t smoke, but I occasionally drink. I’m in bed by eleven pm, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning.
@@calebgriffin4214 And on top of that, someone innocent (middle school student), the only mistake he made being grabbing the wrong bag, and seeing what’s inside.
The climax scene from "Ratatouille" (briefly shown at the end of the video) is by far my favorite scene involving food. I don't even like the film very much, but that scene moved me in a way that very few movies do.
I drink milk with my brother all the time. Because of the calcium. We are just joking about getting stronger bones. We are nice people. I don't think milk will change that. I'll returne if one of us gets a villian arc Edit: I had my villain ark. I watched "average age for everything". I realised how much life never gave me.
I love it when the food/drink items heroes and villains partake in has meaning to who they are and contrast agains eachother. I have 2 examples: Ex.1) The Hero: was hurt by his past and the others he indirectly hurt aswell, so he drinks whiskey to muddle his mind and forget the pain and punish himself. The villain: relishes the feeling of power amd control he has when hurting others. He respects no one but himself and drinks milk because it doesn't impact his health negatively amd it doesn't lead him to make choices he didn't make. It's also telling that he does it all sober, as his true self.. Ex.2) The Hero: he likes to keep a sharp mind and strong body, as to be fit enough to protect the ones he loves and the innocent. For this reason he only drink veggie smoothies if he isn't drinking water. The villain: He doesn't care about anything other than what can gratify him at that moment, smoking to feel the buzz, eating sweets, or finding his way to the bottom of a bottle. He hurts anyone who tries to help him off the path of indulgence. The hero always has an almost unselfish reason for unheathly habits or healthy ones while the villains are always motivated by what they personally want no matter what the habit is.
just wanted to comment on the clip of rose from get out with her cereal and milk, notice how the coloured froot loops are eaten separately from the white milk, an act which very much translates to her views
funny how i am a person who can't go a day without eating an orange, i am also really really unlucky, ironic isn't it? even tho now that i know oranges are a bad omen indicator i'm never going to stop eating them
Fun fact! In the old ages ladies would keep a piece of apple in thier underarm area of their corset and would give it to their suitor as a "taste" as a sultry gift in a sense. Now thinking about how many times a women is shot in a movie biting into an apple as a foreshadowing for something naughty makes so much more sense hahah
@@thinginground5179 It wasn't an apple though. We actually don't know what the fruit was. People think it's an apple only because it's easy to bite into without time to think.
@@Window4503 You know these aren't real and is written for people right and if people thinks it's an apple that's what the director and set designer is going to use
7:31 the forbidden fruit is never actually stated as an apple anywhere in biblical texts, though it was depicted as one in Milton’s Paradise Lost, resulting in that becoming the fruit most commonly associated with the sin.
Banana most likely is fruit for a comedy. The word it self people can find funny. It also has a connotations to it. And the phrase "going bananas.". Cartoons have people or vehicles slip on a banana peel. Or when someone climes out of a dumpster they have a banana on them. Monkeys and apes eat bananas. Charlie the Unicorn second episode was about the Banana King, and how Charlie "needs to put a banana in his ear". The banana is perhaps about the absurd. It may also remind us of our biology with its shape and the fact our other biological family members eat it. Perhaps benanas can be used to remind the audience to not take it to seriously.
A missing part on the pastry scene is that at that time many pastries were made with pig fat which isn’t kosher. He takes it another step forward adding cream because it’s not kosher to mix milk and meat. He was testing her
Interesting. I usually never pay attention to the food. Though in anime and videogames villains and severely gray characters tend to like apples. Jake from Resident Evil 6 is sometimes seen snacking on an apple, as is Ryuk from Death Note, though both aren't actual villains. I did notice there was one animated villain who chose milk to toast his success with, I can't remember who he was, I just remembered it happened. I just considered it an eccentric quirk as the villain was eccentric. Personally, I do go through a lot of milk. Growing up, my mother was endlessly frustrated that I would drink nearly all of it, and she could never keep it in the house. I've also been drinking a lot of Kool Aid lately. It's a child's drink, but I can't seem to get enough of it. Innocence huh? Interesting.
In the movie The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, I love how the character Angel Eyes is introduced to the audience. He casually sits on the dining table of Stevens, the man he is contracted to murder and dines with him without removing his stare !!!
In Lords of Chaos, Varg Vikernes is prominently (and some might say infamously) depicted stopping in the middle of murdering Euronymous to mix up and drink a glass of chocolate milk, a part of the crime that was never even alluded to prior to the movie and, by Varg's account, never happened. The filmmakers likely added the sequence to emphasize Varg's hatred of Euronymous through mockery and show his confidence that Euronymous cannot escape, since chocolate milk takes a couple minutes to prepare and he is, after all, stealing it from Euronymous's kitchen while murdering him. Unfortunately, this sequence paired with the fact that Emory Cohen, the actor who played Varg, was overweight in the movie made it easier to just see Varg as an indulgent character. Disregarding how that (and other scenes in the movie) pissed off the real Varg Vikernes, it made the movie somewhat less enjoyable for viewers already familiar with the true story and/or Varg's infinitely entertaining personality.
second vid i seen of yours, great work, subbed.. you hit on a lot of stuff in your vids i learned about during my time working on a mod i helped develop some time back ago. during that time i got a chance to sit down with MANY people across the creative arts field and really opened my mind up to a lot of thought and concepts... i can tell you, you are on point, for me it seems there is absolutely a type of un-tethered connection across the field where many thoughts, ideas and concepts simply go unnoticed or perhaps somewhat too complex to the point that, if looked too far into begs the question of just exactly what or who we are as people, if not individuals? its something i myself have delved into for about some odd ten years now after seeing soo many interconnections that are all more then simple happenstance. from what i have gleamed from my time is that we, as individuals have a type of indirect, yet very real connection through our subconscious thought, it is not direct and is better expressed though our creations and tallents then our words or ideas alone yet is very real but for some untold, almost uncomfortable reason, we simply wish to ignore it and move on as if the underlying issue or concept is simply not there but yet, it always has a nasty way of showing up. just sharing my two cents on the subject. take it or leave it, just thought i'd share what i have come across in my time of working with the creative art's community. =)
Nooo just minutes ago, I watched the video and it was full of amazing comments about the connotation of milk and its different meanings depending on how and when it's used :(
@@ferso00 Yeah, I've only watched the edited version, and I thought it was a little empty, or that the title mislead me to think there was going to be some sort of answer. Glad to know it was supposed to have more depth than what I watched, but the creator could use the same text with different images so we could still know his insights.
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So glad he included that shot of Homelander from the boys 💀 I also think the milk is showing the parallel to his unfulfilled childhood and why he is the way he is now. Evil but a childlike naivety and he always has an attachment to a parent type figure
in the movie "parasite" you can see them making "ram-don" (but actually it is a Chapa-guri in Korean) with Korean beef strips. The cheap ramen noodles 'Chapagetti' and 'Neoguri' represent two poor families, and the 'Korean beef strips' represent an upper-class family. The sight of three dishes on one plate looks like three families coexisting in one house. The 'Chapagetti' and 'Neoguri' families compete within the same class, not the 'Hanwoo' (Korean beef strips) family, which is a higher class than them.
Milk goes a bit beyond this I think, it shows a strange infantile side of someone who commits heinous acts - almost as if their evil is an inexorable part of their being, not something taught to them. A villain drinking milk is a rash juxtaposition in our minds, a corruption of something innate to all people. Not only can in give insight into the childishness and/or child-like moral compasses of these villains, it can also assert a feeling of dread: as if innocence is being corrupted.
This might be the perfect video. No padding, good insight, made me think of movies I've seen a thousand times in a different way. The premise is solid enough to be a paper on cinema. Helps me understand Frank from The Departed's comment about how you can learn a lot watching things eat Really, really well done.
Oh my goodness, no reference to Tampopo? The raw egg yolk finally breaking in the bedroom feast scene was amazing. No evil there, of course, just fantastic use of food (through the whole movie but especially that scene). Babette's Feast is another memorable use of food in storytelling.
I'd say they put the cereal first, blending in with society. However, they overindulge in the milk, drinking it all when the cereal seems like it all gone...: leaving behind shreds of the breakfast food behind in the bottom of the bowl
"Oh, now that's aggravatin'." "Sheriff?" "It's still sweatin'." "Oh, sheriff! ...We just missed him! We got to circulate this, on radio." "Alright. But what d' we circulate, 'looking for a man who has recently drunk milk?'" From No Country For Old Men
I like to think of it as shorthand for something off. I love milk but I think a lot of people think of it as something you are made to drink or consumed with something like cereal or chocolate sugar powder. When you just see a mf drinking plain milk it’s just that bit unnerving through negative association. This is partly informed by the fact that you see it most in English speaking countries, I don’t really think that association works in Japanese cinema for instance. It’s a different culture and that particular association isn’t quite there imo.
For me when 'villain drink milk' is give the message of 'they doing the right thing'. If its alchohol then its an emotional driven, if its a juice/water/coffee/tea then its a just a job/proffesionalism. I hope people understand what im trying to say.
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i really, intensely love oranges, and funnily enough i'm allergic to oranges in a certain way. i sure hope i don't end up in a movie
Bro I'm not evil though
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You can't be a good villain if you are calcium deficient.
Bad to the bone
@@JCdental I love this comment
No one told Elijah Price that
Milk actually doesn't strengthen bones. It's a myth
@@JCdental Them villains need strong bones to support all their bad.
The "assholes eat apples" trope is S tier. Bonus points if the character throws the apple after taking a single bite out of it, wasting the fruit.
bonus if they eat the apple with a knife.
In my country apples are just the favourite prop of local movie makers. They're cheap to buy in bulk, don't need to be cooked or a foodstylist, and can survive a long filming day.
@@annasolovyeva1013 How does a potato chip not fit all of that?
@@T1Oracle Light Yagami did both Potato Chip and Apple
Truck driver at my job took a single bite of an apple and then threw it out the window of his truck into the parking lot, where it would have to be picked up by the morning cleaning crew. Can confirm by experience that apple-biters are no good
I think milk also indicates how the evil character is doing his horrible actions while being sober, that person didn’t use any substances to make himself more angry or violent, that is just the way they are
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I see it as a way of showing they’ve always been this way. Since milk is typically drank as a child, I think it shows that they’re choosing not to mature from their evil thoughts and embracing their upbringing.
That’s how I see it too. 👍
I know this is about fictional characters, but this hits WAY too close to home for my dad's outlook on life. Funnily enough, his favorite drink is milk
That makes sense
Why is evil often associated with childishness?
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Children don't have a clear sense of what is right or wrong, and if they do, they still don't know deeply the consequences of their actions. From the gaze of mature adults, children are "stupid"; then, a person who don't know (or choose to not know) what their actions lead to is considerably stupid too.
"Maybe I'm a villain" - I said while drinking milk
Exactly my thought rn
Same
man I'm reading and watching this while drinking milk
Same😅
nah you’re just a baron
who else came from that one meme with the violence milk
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They drink their milk PLAIN!
In Yu Yu Hakusho, the villain Toguro declines a glass of alcohol and instead asks for orange juice. A lot has been said about this scene, but personally I like to think that it's to show that he wants to be in control, mostly of himself. If he were to dull his senses with alcohol he might make rash or foolish decisions, but most importantly he might numb himself. To someone who already views most of the world as weak and boring, he wants to be acutely aware of everything around him so that when he finally does face something that challenges him, he can truly experience it with 100% clarity.
What a wise guy
Bro was dying already ; he wanted to experience the full extent of yusukes ass whooping 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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Or maybe he was gonna be drivin on the way home
@@AY-qy4jn tell all these over analyzers what up! 😂
Milk is something you drink when you feel safe: at home, with your mom, or before going to sleep. It's also one of the first foods humans began to produce in an industrial way when we learned how to keep cattle. It means that you are in control of the situation (compare the milk that Alex drinks at the beginning of A Clockwork Orange with the wine and meal he is forcefully served afterwards). Hans Landa drinks milk because he controls the situation, completely. Anton Chigurh drinks milk because he's always in absolute control. The Dude, on the other hand, drinks White Russians because he'd love for once, to be in control of the situation, but the drink is laced with vodka, because his life is quite chaotic.
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
lol I only get White Russians or something similar when I drink, felt that.
@@XanVicious You deserve better. You deserve cream.
it represents taking from women and most of those guys are cruel to women
ray-pp is the forcible taking
The milk at the milk bar, in A Clockwork Orange contains hallucinogenic drugs. Alex and the droogs are young (15 )but not wholesome.
Also, strudel used to be prepared using pork fat, so in forcing her to eat the strudel, he's forcing her to violate kosher laws.
then sitting back to watch how far he could push her to keep up the facade.
Actually she is being violated & dramatizing the cause & effect.
In that particular situation, the Kosher law is over-ridden by self-preservation, so eating the strudel and enjoying it to not arouse suspicion of the SS captain would have been fine.
Incidentally: it's the filo pastry shell which could, but not necessarily, have pork lard in it.
@luca bertani That literally has nothing to do,fool. I have to do it like that because of course they have anything bad you can say about them censored on this shitty website
@luca bertani Im not afraid. I just dont want to create another account. And that the fuck are you babling about?
Landa making Shoshanna wait for the cream (dairy) to be mixed with the pastry, made probably from lard (already not kosher itself) is brilliant as a detail. He probably was testing her or already knew who she was. What I love about this detail is that no character does an exposition about that, the same way that nobody in the film seems to notice he's checking one of the farmer's daughter's pulse.
Maybe the drinking of milk by the villain represents the villain consuming the innocent (if milk represents innocence or an innocent beverage or as a food sustenance of innocents eg) babies, children)?
It does, it also symbolises maternity/motherhood, and as you mentioned purity/innocence
Yes, the innocent cows and the baby calves that are inevitably taken from their mothers and murdered by the dairy industry
If they drink babies why didn't the villain drink cu- nvm i don't want to see that either lol
@@Deeznootsgotteem yeah
@@Dominus_Augustus you don't kill cows to get milk from them
Consider this from the perspective of a bartender;
a martini is stirred to maximize the chill of the drink without actively diluting it or making it full of air. Shaking a drink introduces a large amount of air into the mixture, while also crushing up ice and melting it quickly to make the drink even colder. While it’s not by a significant amount, James Bond’s “Gin/Vodka martini shaken not stirred” is him ordering a weakened version of the classic drink, which prevents him from becoming too intoxicated while on the job, without making him stand out too much by ordering a classy drink in a high-brow environment
That’s interesting
Always wondered why he took it that way
Definitely gives hope that the upcoming movie "The Menu" could also be the same way with food being a subtle nod to the evil that lies within the chef and his crew.
Absolutely! Ralph Fiennes with an epic performance again I bet
that chefs favorite dish is milk with a side of oranges
@@The_Tactical_Wook oh god
@@The_Tactical_Wook Oranges were what lead to the demise of the Mafia in the Godfather movies. 😂
I love that movie so much! Anya and Ralph NEVER disappoint.
I just realised that milk symbols innocence. So Hans consuming milk is a metaphor for him exploiting the innocent for his own wants and desires, he also asks for the milk from LaPetite which could hint to Hans later making LaPetite confess. All linking to Hans's cunning and manipulative villany.
I thought drinking dairy milk symbolises malice and disregard for morals, because of the torturous industry that milk comes from.
I can see that
As somewhat of a psycho the milk nor the cereal go first. It's always the bowl that goes first
You monster
@@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683 I'm not a monster it's you and the rest society ruining a world that I want to conquer
Weak! Milk first, then cereal then the bowl
@@spudeism you're absolutely right, it just tastes better.
I agree
there's also something genius about using food before introducing a violent scene. eating engages the parasympathetic nervous system, disengaging fight/flight response. watching someone eats also triggers our physiological mechanism to mirror responses related to eating, likely due to the existence of mirror neurons. (this probably also makes the villains relatable). as a result, any ensuing shock will throw off the audience & kickstart the sympathetic nervous system violently into a fight/flight reflex.
smart of tarantino to utilizes this biopsychological mechanism, whether he's aware of it or not
It doesn't matter whether you pour the cereal or the milk first, the bowl always comes next, followed by the table.
But before that, the kitchen.
@@samfilmkid You're forgetting the existence
@@GregoryMom No, the existence comes after the table
@Gol Acheron Clearly you're reading the wrong history book
Personally I put the table on my bowl but ok you do you.
I reckon villains drinking milk is also a simple expectation subversion. You would expect, based on stereotypes, that such hardened people doing such hardened things would be drinking badass beverages like alcohol. But instead, they drink a simple, more commonplace beverage; a simple expectation subversion that often neatly mirrors their character, simple and even likeable on the surface, sinister and calculating beneath.
As a linguistic aside, the hand gesture Has Landa does when saying "bravo" to the farmer's cows and family is a perfect example of an ancient hand sign from France. It looks a bit like the "OK" sign but the pads of the fingers are pinched together and it represents running your fingers along a section of hand-spun thread to check for fineness and a lack of lumps. It means "finest kind". Hans is being more French than the actual Frenchman.
That’s interesting
He is more genetically similar than that supposed french man. So.
@@ChaadFairservice20022 I was speaking of culture, not phenotype. Hans must one-up everybody.
I completely agree with Tarantino creating hunger or thirst for the item on screen.
There is a scene in Django where they pour beer. Immediately after the movie, we went to the bar and grabbed a beer, because of the craving that the scene created.
YUP
I saw D’Artagnan getting eaten by the dogs, and immediately wanted some steak after the movie ended.
This is a joke don’t kill me pls
Milk also is an unusual drink to have on its own, making the drinker stand out more
Bro what, everybody drinks milk.
@@EresirThe1st He means on its own. You usually don't just milk by itself; you have milk with a cookie or with a meal
@@timewarpdrive77 I do drink on its own, as many people from my ethnical background. Maybe it is a cultural difference?
@@dredeth You come from a villainous culture.
@@get8bit we are often portrayed as such in educational Hollywood's movies.
If somebody wrote a villain that's lactose intolerant but drinks milk just to show how powerful they are, that'd be cool as hell.
Then consider it done, my fine anon.
Hell yeah I would go see that for the representation of a minority overlooked for too long!
Those of us who had to struggle through the years when soy was the only alternative, and soy milk tastes like whale semen.
I'm tearing up just thinking about it 😅😅
That just wouldn't make any sense?
The Jelly Donut in Full Metal Jacket is a symbolism of what Private Pyle is gonna turn into because he can't do anything right with basic training to be a marine. When he says he's too heavy and hungry, it indicates if he'll survive under Private Joker's leadership of teaching him to be a killer in the outside world and not let the thoughts of Sgt. Hartman get in the way of turning himself into a monster.
The fun fact about food in the movies or TV shows that nobody speaks at all is the fact that most of the times the actor has to spit the food they were eating when the scene is over or cut because any movie scene requires several shots for each scene, if an actor eats what we see it's eating he may get feel full by the time they shot for 9th time the same restaurant scene. Normally each dish on scene was prepared several times and the actor may just bite it, end the scene, spit the bitten food and then film again with a new dish. I've been in movie sets and the amount of food that gets wasted in the projects is insane, that's why several directors avoid the eating scenes and instead they start to film when the dinner is almost over.
It's a shame this channel only has like a half dozen videos. These are amazing.
The other underrated power-move with food: when a villain invites the protagonists to a luxurious feast to simultaneously display how much wealth they possess and how little they fear/respect their adversaries.
In death, note light ate an apple after Ryuk did who is a God of death. Hinting that his killcount is that of a God of death. Also it represents his manipulation and loss of innocence as well since apples increase intellectual function and light is an intellectually superior individual whom is seen manipulate people with more and more finesses and even sadisticly enjoys every step of the way as opposed to his initial self that only would manipulate people strictly for his plans to pan out
He also pull an potato chip..... and eat it
It's not that complicated, it represents the first sin or the forbidden fruit.
The entire intro frames Light as a God. Biting the apple is just a biblical reference. Also, that show is literally the definition of satanic. Because satanism is where you worship yourself.
"IM ALREADY A DEMON , KAZ."
you know, i thought this video was gonna be something generic, or not related, but it was unironically a banger, good job.
This is really interesting, and I'd love to see more videos on the topic. Food can seem as a background prop but I love the added symbolism that it can hold.
I think they just do that to show that villains are also human beings as drinking something so mundane that everybody does shows that despite their horrible actions they are still down to earth (which kinda makes it even more scary knowing that these people are no different from us)
"And what's the biggest enemy of the dentist?"
Me: Apples
"Exactly- Candy"
Me: 😐
The Menu made this small fixation? To the ENTIRE PREMISE! It was just~ 🙌🙌🤧👏👏👏👏
Candy isn't the dentist's biggest ememy, it's his biggest allie
I think that in films, drinking milk can also signify the act of taking or stealing. Milk is something naturally formulated for the baby, and dairy is typically for calves. Whenever a bad character lavishes on milk without a care in the world, it sort of sets the tone for the character in regards to their disregard of taking without consequence. Basically a step short of eating veal, caviar, or eggs. It can also indicate a liking or tolerance to western culture, the main consumers for drinking plain milk from a glass.
Homelander is interesting because at first it seems like he just has mommy issues. But then later it becomes clear that it's not the mother figure he craves, just her milk. He’s such a weird character.
Think of him as if he dosnet get what he wants he will die. Its clear he dissacoates when hearing things that dont match up. Throw in the fact he dosent know how to look at his emotions in the face, literally the mirror scene.
It's not the mommy, just the nuritionment she was supposed to provide that he was neglected
@@joeystevens3790 A psychopath's view of a parent, basically
He's fixated on consumption. He's unable to enjoy human connections, while simultaneously craving them. The only thing he understands is consumption, so he grows attached to whatever he can consume. It makes sense, because it's a problem a lot of real people have.
to take from the feminine and destroy it
One food from a comic that stands out is in Yhe Killing Joke during the Jokers flashbacks a phew different characters are eating Lobster, the mobsters at the bar have a bucket and later when Joker is home talking to his wife there are lobsters on thr table. I always wandered what it symbolized
Having read the original novel "A Clockwork Orange" which the movie of the same name is based on, the milk that is being drank in the scene is supposed to be laced with a drug. There were bars, specifically called "milk bars", for drinking the drugged milk described in the novel
"Mokolo Plus, as i recall" typed someone who hasn't read the novel since she bought a copy in 197sonething. 🥛+
Okey, hear me out... There's this chapter in JoJo's... Where someone has an orange but the orange it's a bomb and the one who made the bomb ended up blowing himself up with the orange...
But anyways, great video, I never realized how much of a story can the food tell
“My name is Yoshikage Kira. I’m thirty three years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I get home every day by eight pm at the latest. I don’t smoke, but I occasionally drink. I’m in bed by eleven pm, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning.
This is meant to point out Kira, the villain, also drinks milk on a regular basis and comments on this fact right before killing someone.
@@calebgriffin4214 And on top of that, someone innocent (middle school student), the only mistake he made being grabbing the wrong bag, and seeing what’s inside.
I'm surprised the dexter opening wasn't mentioned cause that's gotta be one of the best uses of food in television that I've seen
One of the best UA-cam channels right now. This video is my 2nd favorite after the liminal spaces one
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Saw a clip of Homelander getting aroused by milk. I am now in therapy.
"You are what you eat."
I don't remember eating a big disappointment.
Aw don't say that.
I guess I'm a pu$$y then
The climax scene from "Ratatouille" (briefly shown at the end of the video) is by far my favorite scene involving food. I don't even like the film very much, but that scene moved me in a way that very few movies do.
The "moloko" they drank in Clockwork Orange was supposed to be some kind of intoxicant.
Pacino eating that lemon slice in Scarface, is pure genius.
I drink milk with my brother all the time. Because of the calcium. We are just joking about getting stronger bones. We are nice people. I don't think milk will change that.
I'll returne if one of us gets a villian arc
Edit: I had my villain ark. I watched "average age for everything". I realised how much life never gave me.
@Chris Waters thanks for the tip
Huh, Interesting. I have an orange tree. That explains my paranoia.
I love it when the food/drink items heroes and villains partake in has meaning to who they are and contrast agains eachother. I have 2 examples:
Ex.1) The Hero: was hurt by his past and the others he indirectly hurt aswell, so he drinks whiskey to muddle his mind and forget the pain and punish himself.
The villain: relishes the feeling of power amd control he has when hurting others. He respects no one but himself and drinks milk because it doesn't impact his health negatively amd it doesn't lead him to make choices he didn't make. It's also telling that he does it all sober, as his true self..
Ex.2) The Hero: he likes to keep a sharp mind and strong body, as to be fit enough to protect the ones he loves and the innocent. For this reason he only drink veggie smoothies if he isn't drinking water.
The villain: He doesn't care about anything other than what can gratify him at that moment, smoking to feel the buzz, eating sweets, or finding his way to the bottom of a bottle. He hurts anyone who tries to help him off the path of indulgence.
The hero always has an almost unselfish reason for unheathly habits or healthy ones while the villains are always motivated by what they personally want no matter what the habit is.
just wanted to comment on the clip of rose from get out with her cereal and milk, notice how the coloured froot loops are eaten separately from the white milk, an act which very much translates to her views
Will be glad to see characters drink milk two times
A psychopath would put the milk in the bowl, drink it, then eat the cereal one morsel at a time while staring you in the eye.
And eat the cereal right out of the box
There’s another key association with apples - youth and regeneration. Such as the apples of Idunn or the Hesperides.
funny how i am a person who can't go a day without eating an orange, i am also really really unlucky, ironic isn't it?
even tho now that i know oranges are a bad omen indicator
i'm never going to stop eating them
Fun fact! In the old ages ladies would keep a piece of apple in thier underarm area of their corset and would give it to their suitor as a "taste" as a sultry gift in a sense. Now thinking about how many times a women is shot in a movie biting into an apple as a foreshadowing for something naughty makes so much more sense hahah
Yoo and then there’s eve with the fruit in the garden of Eden before humanity is cursed lol
@@thinginground5179 It wasn't an apple though. We actually don't know what the fruit was. People think it's an apple only because it's easy to bite into without time to think.
@@Window4503 You know these aren't real and is written for people right and if people thinks it's an apple that's what the director and set designer is going to use
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In Brazil we discover a psychopath when he puts rice on top of beans.
Milk will be my diet from now on.
same tbh haha
7:31 the forbidden fruit is never actually stated as an apple anywhere in biblical texts, though it was depicted as one in Milton’s Paradise Lost, resulting in that becoming the fruit most commonly associated with the sin.
Banana most likely is fruit for a comedy. The word it self people can find funny. It also has a connotations to it. And the phrase "going bananas.". Cartoons have people or vehicles slip on a banana peel. Or when someone climes out of a dumpster they have a banana on them. Monkeys and apes eat bananas. Charlie the Unicorn second episode was about the Banana King, and how Charlie "needs to put a banana in his ear". The banana is perhaps about the absurd. It may also remind us of our biology with its shape and the fact our other biological family members eat it. Perhaps benanas can be used to remind the audience to not take it to seriously.
Haha banana
Go banana!
minions. The Greatest movie of all time.
I feel awkward bc I think when smb eats a banana that means they're doing a blowjob...
A missing part on the pastry scene is that at that time many pastries were made with pig fat which isn’t kosher. He takes it another step forward adding cream because it’s not kosher to mix milk and meat. He was testing her
Villain: "This is a gun."
Protagonist: "Fool, I'm the main character here, you eill never hit me-"
Villain: "🍊."
Protagonist: "OKAY OKAY, I YIELD!"
As a man says a lot "let's have are character eat an apple to seem even more like a asshole" and once juggling apples
Me who's been drinking orange juice in the morning for years 💀
Cooked
Interesting. I usually never pay attention to the food. Though in anime and videogames villains and severely gray characters tend to like apples. Jake from Resident Evil 6 is sometimes seen snacking on an apple, as is Ryuk from Death Note, though both aren't actual villains. I did notice there was one animated villain who chose milk to toast his success with, I can't remember who he was, I just remembered it happened. I just considered it an eccentric quirk as the villain was eccentric. Personally, I do go through a lot of milk. Growing up, my mother was endlessly frustrated that I would drink nearly all of it, and she could never keep it in the house. I've also been drinking a lot of Kool Aid lately. It's a child's drink, but I can't seem to get enough of it. Innocence huh? Interesting.
This reminded me of Leon: The Professional; each time Matilda goes out to buy milk something bad happens to those around her.
In the movie The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, I love how the character Angel Eyes is introduced to the audience. He casually sits on the dining table of Stevens, the man he is contracted to murder and dines with him without removing his stare !!!
Don’t get stopped by youtube, keep up this fantastic work.
In Lords of Chaos, Varg Vikernes is prominently (and some might say infamously) depicted stopping in the middle of murdering Euronymous to mix up and drink a glass of chocolate milk, a part of the crime that was never even alluded to prior to the movie and, by Varg's account, never happened. The filmmakers likely added the sequence to emphasize Varg's hatred of Euronymous through mockery and show his confidence that Euronymous cannot escape, since chocolate milk takes a couple minutes to prepare and he is, after all, stealing it from Euronymous's kitchen while murdering him. Unfortunately, this sequence paired with the fact that Emory Cohen, the actor who played Varg, was overweight in the movie made it easier to just see Varg as an indulgent character. Disregarding how that (and other scenes in the movie) pissed off the real Varg Vikernes, it made the movie somewhat less enjoyable for viewers already familiar with the true story and/or Varg's infinitely entertaining personality.
second vid i seen of yours, great work, subbed.. you hit on a lot of stuff in your vids i learned about during my time working on a mod i helped develop some time back ago. during that time i got a chance to sit down with MANY people across the creative arts field and really opened my mind up to a lot of thought and concepts... i can tell you, you are on point, for me it seems there is absolutely a type of un-tethered connection across the field where many thoughts, ideas and concepts simply go unnoticed or perhaps somewhat too complex to the point that, if looked too far into begs the question of just exactly what or who we are as people, if not individuals? its something i myself have delved into for about some odd ten years now after seeing soo many interconnections that are all more then simple happenstance. from what i have gleamed from my time is that we, as individuals have a type of indirect, yet very real connection through our subconscious thought, it is not direct and is better expressed though our creations and tallents then our words or ideas alone yet is very real but for some untold, almost uncomfortable reason, we simply wish to ignore it and move on as if the underlying issue or concept is simply not there but yet, it always has a nasty way of showing up. just sharing my two cents on the subject. take it or leave it, just thought i'd share what i have come across in my time of working with the creative art's community. =)
I'mma gonna show this to my mom, she makes me drink milk everyday. This is my villain origin story.
Nooo just minutes ago, I watched the video and it was full of amazing comments about the connotation of milk and its different meanings depending on how and when it's used :(
I'm glad I could watch the first version. Excellent work with this video!
@@ferso00 Yeah, I've only watched the edited version, and I thought it was a little empty, or that the title mislead me to think there was going to be some sort of answer. Glad to know it was supposed to have more depth than what I watched, but the creator could use the same text with different images so we could still know his insights.
In the Godfather, Vito puts orange slices in his mouth to entertain his grandson right before he dies.
FINALLY someone who has seen Spirited Away. Such an underrated movie. The soundtrack and music and ambience is diamond cut perfect.
I know!!!!
Damn fine piece of video analysis. Loved it to the core!
Everyone knows that lactose tolerance is a standard trait for all villains and super villains
2:26 Yeah, that scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood actually made me want a pina colada. lol
Loved it all the way througb
Very high quality stuff right here
You did do your research and skillfilly stitched all this even with the sponsor
Loved how you put Bully Maguire in it and also played my ringtone in the end
I was confused for a while as to why the call interface wasn't being shown on my phone screen then I backed the video a bit and got it
Great video man
It's a surprise why I didn't know about this channel up until now
Subbed
Edit: Oh wait I'm already subscribed
Wtf?!
hahah awesome 🙌🙌
This is a very impressive analysis . I never knew this
So glad he included that shot of Homelander from the boys 💀 I also think the milk is showing the parallel to his unfulfilled childhood and why he is the way he is now. Evil but a childlike naivety and he always has an attachment to a parent type figure
I love it when i stumble upon a youtube channel which i can binge
I guess to show that they are not irrational drunks on conquests, but thoughtful purposeful men on a evil mission.
in the movie "parasite" you can see them making "ram-don" (but actually it is a Chapa-guri in Korean) with Korean beef strips. The cheap ramen noodles 'Chapagetti' and 'Neoguri' represent two poor families, and the 'Korean beef strips' represent an upper-class family. The sight of three dishes on one plate looks like three families coexisting in one house. The 'Chapagetti' and 'Neoguri' families compete within the same class, not the 'Hanwoo' (Korean beef strips) family, which is a higher class than them.
yes exactly! The wagyu beef is in such stark contrast with the cheap noodles. Great find!
Sometime when my brain in chaos, drinking milk help me stabilize it
I can see it
Wow,I'm impressed! Thank you for your work,sir!
Milk goes a bit beyond this I think, it shows a strange infantile side of someone who commits heinous acts - almost as if their evil is an inexorable part of their being, not something taught to them. A villain drinking milk is a rash juxtaposition in our minds, a corruption of something innate to all people. Not only can in give insight into the childishness and/or child-like moral compasses of these villains, it can also assert a feeling of dread: as if innocence is being corrupted.
thank you for such an amazing video
adding to the “oranges of death”, is Tangerine in Bullet Train, and the orange truck at the end, too 🍊
This might be the perfect video. No padding, good insight, made me think of movies I've seen a thousand times in a different way. The premise is solid enough to be a paper on cinema.
Helps me understand Frank from The Departed's comment about how you can learn a lot watching things eat
Really, really well done.
why has it taken so long for me to realise that calvin candy was defeated by a dentist
Drinking milk while I'm watching this...oh wait...
Oh my goodness, no reference to Tampopo? The raw egg yolk finally breaking in the bedroom feast scene was amazing. No evil there, of course, just fantastic use of food (through the whole movie but especially that scene).
Babette's Feast is another memorable use of food in storytelling.
How could you be a villian if you aren’t drinking your milk and getting big and strong
I'd say they put the cereal first, blending in with society. However, they overindulge in the milk, drinking it all when the cereal seems like it all gone...: leaving behind shreds of the breakfast food behind in the bottom of the bowl
I’m terribly surprised at the lack of David Lynch references in this context
"We are like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream.
"Oh, now that's aggravatin'."
"Sheriff?"
"It's still sweatin'."
"Oh, sheriff! ...We just missed him! We got to circulate this, on radio."
"Alright. But what d' we circulate, 'looking for a man who has recently drunk milk?'"
From No Country For Old Men
Still remember that line.
Golden age Batman story, "The Three Eccentrics", Penguin is drinking milk at an underworld hangout.
I like to think of it as shorthand for something off. I love milk but I think a lot of people think of it as something you are made to drink or consumed with something like cereal or chocolate sugar powder. When you just see a mf drinking plain milk it’s just that bit unnerving through negative association. This is partly informed by the fact that you see it most in English speaking countries, I don’t really think that association works in Japanese cinema for instance. It’s a different culture and that particular association isn’t quite there imo.
"And if you see an orange, run."
Me, who had an orange for dessert: "oh no."
For me when 'villain drink milk' is give the message of 'they doing the right thing'.
If its alchohol then its an emotional driven, if its a juice/water/coffee/tea then its a just a job/proffesionalism.
I hope people understand what im trying to say.
In Homer’s Odyssey the Cyclops drinks milk, because he is a shepherd and does not know what wine is.
Homelander drinking milk is a sign of him being a baby inside, a deeply hurt baby lacking warmth from a mother that comes with her milk.
He was coping for Madelyn’s death.
isn't there a scene where he want to suck a tity?
@@mt000mp yeah, and this scene shows how much he needed this in his infancy