What Is Depression? | Father Ripperger
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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In this clip, Father Ripperger examines Matt Walsh's view of depression
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Do you agree with Matt Walsh's view of depression?
@@AKPNW76 It's 5% a combination of factors e.g., mercury in a rake of stuff but the psychology racket would be finished by tomorrow morning if the Vatican reinstated the correct name and entity back into the Sacramental Rites with that of God The Father of the Trinitatian Theophany -The Holy Ghost/ Deum Patrum Spiritum Sanctum, as most people wouldn't experience every problem imaginable and sidestep torture via their psych drugs.
@@AKPNW76 thanks be to God. Me too, experienced same.
NO, PLEASE NOTE:
This (unintentionally) glib & misleading opinion is a poor pop psychology reinterpretation of a 30sec pop psychology "generalisation", & again, Fr Rippenger's words in his mention of neurotransmitters is quite misleading pop psychology again; the label of Dopamine as "the brain's pleasure chemical", is an OK off hand label in some contexts but not in depression. The reinforcing of synaptic response by dopamine is NOT the same as a pleasure response and greatly distorts the role of Dopamine and labels the understanding of sufferers which is NOT about wallowing in self-pity OR about the general spiritual experience (referred to by St Ignatius) of consolation and/or desolation. This is not to deny people may confuse an unaccustomed and overwhelming sense of loss, lack of or low motivation or other emotions with a more clinical condition. I'd also have to say that either doctors often think they can diagnose general mental conditions such as depression (far) better than they can not because of ego but because of the way they are trained, or, because they don't have nearly enough properly trained mental health professionals to be able to refer more than a tiny percentage of those who would benefit. Nor sadly, do they know which of the handful of services out there ARE properly trained.
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I’ve heard Matt speak about this a few times. In general he was talking about people being sent to a psychiatrist who knee jerk gives them meds when he felt many of the problems were actually spiritual disconnects, and what they really needed was a priest or spiritual guidance.
He had a full discussion with Jordan Peterson about this and did say that their likely was some which could be linked to a chemical imbalance, but that his thoughts were people were painting a paint brush and using this too much.
I think a spiritual disconnect can lead to a chemical imbalance and not everyone needs meds. Some people benefit with them. As a physician I don’t work in an area where I’d prescribe anti depressants but I’ve definitely sent my patients back to their gp or psychologist to have their anxiety treated. I see anxiety far more often (if people are depressed they’re less likely to present).
But underlying - yes - a lot of people are suffering from anxiety because of a spiritual disconnect. It definitely plays a massive role. One of my patients was telling me he works with the ministry and now works in the hospital as a “spiritual consultant.” I thought it was wonderful that a hospital was allowing this service.
Psychologist here. I think depression is both a medical/psychological and a spiritual condition.
@esgravois. I wholeheartedly agree, I've was a psychiatric RN for over 25 years, you better believe it is!!
@@danacaro-herman3530I was a mental health aide for ten years, and I agree too.
Depression is A very complex issue ‘ and one shoe don’t fit all’ it takes time and patience with a good doctor
“Learn how to process the bad things in your life” excellent advice for everyone. St. Ignatius, in his Spiritual Exercises, teaches that everyone goes through alternating phases of consolation and desolation. But in modern society people want to eliminate the desolation, which is a natural part of human life here on earth.
You might consider that-due to the evil and pervasive nature of modernity-some people grow up from their very earliest years with no consolation at all. The answer is always Christ. But that doesn’t mean someone finds themselves in depression/despair because they are inherently weak.
@@annalynn9325At my advanced age , I STILL ... and with constant ....
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I NEVER got a dopamine rush from thinking depressing thoughts.
It's a baseless claim
It can do. People get a comfort in being down. That's actual lyrics in a nirvana song.
@michaellawlor5625 connecting that specifically to dopamine is the part that I think cannot be based on evidence
@@aor3220 Yeah, maybe.
Me either and I’m on medication for it.
I work in the homeless sector, with former rough sleepers, in the UK. At this point any credibility that the medical profession had in relation to mental wellbeing has evaporated. In hoc signo vinces ✝️ .
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is great. Please get the book "Feeling Good" at your local library.
Father Ripperger is so right about the negative thought patterns!
No amount of “talk therapy” helped me. I was depressed from the age of 15 to 32. Medication is the only thing that has helped me. The brain can get sick just like the human body. It is no different. If someone says they are depressed take it seriously.
Indeed. It is ridiculous that we still have to have conversations like 'is depression real?' Still in 2024!!
The brain can get sick like every other organ in the body
I agree with you! Mental illness is real. Medications help people with depressive disorder to live normal lives. 😊
Depression is to slow down and grieve your losses .
Then when ready try,try again.
Grieving is not an illness but a process of healing.
Thank you
Grana Rose
You're correct that grieving is not illness
This video is about depression though not grieving
I really believe that we should leave mental health to the professionals. Sometimes people twist it to make mental illness sound like a moral failing. It’s difficult to be Catholic and have mental health difficulties. 😢
Some of the saints suffered with mental health problems too, which isnt often discussed.
Seems like those who have never gone through it think people choose to be ill, when in a way it is hell on earth, even worse when it doesn't respond to medications, or those medications cause side effects that are even worse
Well said! Mother Teresa had depression most of her adult life. Mental illness is a very heavy cross to bear. One of my sons has treatment resistant depressive disorder. It's a debilitating illness. I don't wish this on anyone.
Depression gave me time for God. It was his gift. I had time to read, pray, and I can say Thank you dear Lord, thank you Jesus. I love you ❤.
Beautiful. Praise God
Same here
Beautiful. 🙏🙏
Nope. You weren’t depressed! Stop the nonsense
Based on that comment you did have depression.
You had low mood
My depression is based on the fact that I have to live a lonely existence because I am stuck living with my fellow humans who are narcissists!
By your own admission, you are depressed because you don't see your own worth or the worth of others. Remember, self-loathing is not a virtue. It is what the demons do.
Talk with your Angel. Ask him to show him how you are not alone.
I made progress by giving the holy spirit my heart, my parts in my spirit and let him change me.
Be good to yourself, i suggest that you let him transform you and you will feel how fresh "good things" are in your spirit and you are lovable.
Step by step. Do not force it. You do not suck.
Once many years ago, I was prescribed Zyrtec (when it was still only available with prescription) and I was SO lethargic, I was convinced I was going through a depression but I realized these thoughts started right when I was taking this drug. One of the side effects? Lethargy. So how many people- especially women on hormonal birth control- are experiencing “depression” as a side effect? But docs just prescribe more drugs
Oh that’s so odd. I take Zyrtec daily for allergies. I’ve done this for years now with no side effects. I’m also on hormonal birth control with zero side effects, thankfully. I know many women suffer on it though. Not sure what I’d do if I had serious side effects. I’d have to get off of it for sure but then what?
Anti baby pill makes depression. Women are chemically castrate themself.
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diet is a major factor. glucose. too much glucose from sweets and carbs. Minimize the sweets and carbs.. and optimism and clear thinking substantially increase.
A healthy diet is a good idea. However, it cannot cure a serious mental disorder like Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder or major depressive disorder. Eating well can help a little bit. Exercise can also help temporarily.
My mother spent years of her life "depressed" until she rarely got out of bed Meds didn't help.
I really get Walsh. I have been “depressed “ for most of my life. When I became Roman Catholic I began to see the world realistically. Spiritual awakening. Fr Ripperger is right about meds. People shouldn’t be on longterm psychiatric medication because you will become addicted and you will need more medication.
Also, as Jordon P said to Matt Walsh, most counselors/psych/LCSW’s actually harm the patient
Some MDs say that if you don't give an Rx the patient feels you haven't helped them. Some want the meds.
I got put on anti-depressants when I was in my 20's because I was diagnosed with Migraines and the Dr asked if I was depressed and I said, "well having Migraines all the time is depressing." I have been on the wretched things pretty much ever since and I'm 50 now. :(
You can get off them like any other drug. It’s extremely difficult, EXTREMELY. You will never win the battle if you go into it thinking it will be easy. It will be incredibly hard and painful, and you will suffer.
The question you have to ask yourself is “would I rather suffer and be hooked on drugs, or would I rather suffer and have freedom from drugs?”
Pray, exercise regularly, and employ acceptance commitment therapy.
Fr Ripperger is asked a pertinent question, namely whether he has an opinion regarding the Aaron Kheriaty Catholics-and-depression book from the Sophia Institute Press. Unfortunately, the clip ends without showing Fr Ripperger's answer. Could the "Catholic Family News" channel please now indicate, here in the comments section, what Fr Ripperger's answer was? Thanks in advance for your help! :-)
It's totally an individual thing.
Everyone is different.
Depression is the creative force behind the best art and music 🔥🔥🔥
That seems to be true! Many people who suffer from depression are very artistic and musically gifted. 😊
I thought the receptors decreased. It would stand to reason that with the serotonin uptake blocked, the brain would adjust by eliminating some of the receptors.
There are many forms of depression. The most common is caused by self-pity. Fr Ripperger talks about this. It's the dopamine rush you get by thinking about how bad you have it, or how bad other people have it. Entire political parties are built on this. Self pity feels sweet going down and turns bitter in your stomach. The cure for this is to grow up and give thanks. Spiritual depression is caused by not knowing your own self worth and not having a relationship with God. St. Augustine nailed it when he said "Our hearts are restless until they rest in thee." Then there is physiological depression caused by altered brain chemistry and malfunctioning receptors. I totally disagree with both Matt Walsh and Fr Ripperger in their opinions on this. This requires medication, possibly for the rest of one's life; not just a little boost until you can get your head on straight. You would never say that to a schizophrenic, so why say it to someone suffering bipolar disorder?
I have experienced all three, and in my experience, it can range from crushing hopelessness and misery to simply not seeing any worth in anything; your "give-a-shitter" is broken.
To that end, I don't rely on my emotions. Love is a logical decision and a choice. If I don't see the point in doing something, I trust in my worth, trust in God and follow through with my decision.
Proverbs 12:25 Anxiety ?….. root is FEAR self centred fear of many things but fear of the unknown ?….. in the final analysis of my life I found I had a demon shadowing my life since birth. Was eventually cleared when I fought for my life in prayer, knowledge of Christ and the sacraments especially confession of my past and The Eucharistic Grace. Let no one judge or criticise me, for I’ve walked the walk, I’ve fought for my life, my sanity, I rejected psycho drugs, a psychologist , who I found ,also had a major breakdown, I rejected Satan through his minions of tarot, witchcraft etc I co operated with God and through forgiveness I found , in the Cross , i found Love , peace , and I was set free. Now im whole , happy woman. I endeavour to live for others . Ps my life has been a crash course in experiencing other peoples behaviours , many times I’ve been seriously wronged that was horrendously depressing, especially when I was wrongfully blamed …. Forgiving them has also brought joy and happiness in abundance . 🏴❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Depression is a emotional disorder. It is a pathology. The problem is, people are down and claim depression. Imo.
*suffer well * offer it up*
I work in home primary care. For 10 years, ive seen MEDs given for “depression”, on-going, without ever addressing their sins, decisions, or changing their lives.
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Hmmm, ? Sad disorder, bio8 polar and more....not so simple...
No pharmakia, Father!
It's also en vogue with people under 30 to have emotional issues now
To a degree.
You are a wonderful priest and a lousy psychiatrist. Stick to what your good at.God bless you!
No I do not agree with Matt Walsh. I feel his view of depression is a narrow one. I am so thankful to Father Ripperger for being so thorough and thoughtful with his response to the issue of depression. I have bi polar type 2 which is mainly characterized by depression. My mother had Schizophrenia and my son has Autism. All of us go through periods of depression and anxiety that cannot simply be cured by positivity or our faith. We have mental health disorders that are managed with therapy and medication. I am thankful that all three of us have found medication that has helped us to manage the daily struggles of these disorders. It is no different than someone who must take medication for diabetes.
What my faith does do, is give me strength and comfort through the difficult times. Obviously God could cure our illness’ but that has not happened. This is the path he allowed and we need to manage it through our Faith and the medical supports available.
Matt talks about depression from the perspective of someone who doesn't have it. When people talk about depression online, they're usually talking about psychological issues, but most people interpret it as the general feeling of malaise that naturally occurs in life.
Very well said!!! I agree; I have 2 adult sons who have psychiatric disorders and fight constantly against depression. They go to confession & mass & receive Holy Communion frequently-helps a lot.
Have you tried with carnivore diet? I heard that many people got cured of mental diseases with such diet...please investigate!
I agree.
May be hard to believe, but my depression started in early grade school and continued for decades - A small daily dose of escitalopram gave me the ability to direct my thoughts, free of continuous tears - You'll just have to take my word for it when I say major depressive order has not given me any kind of thrill, high or feel good feeling - Going off this small dose threw me back into non-stop tears - I prefer a life worth living, thank you very much, and will stay on my meds - You folks really don't know the whole story about depression, but you spin quite a yarn
Yes. Those who do not suffer from these illnesses simply do not understand or know. I have had clinical depression most of my life and now have anxiety at times. Thank God for the meds I take that keep me half way sane. I try to be a faithful Catholic and do the best I can.
Well said! As someone who has struggled with depression and anxiety disorder for many years, I completely agree with you. Unless you have been severely depressed, you don't know what you are talking about folks! Mental illness is real. Imagine telling a person with Diabetes to get off their meds. Or, telling a cancer patient to stop with chemotherapy. Anti-depressant medication saves lives just like other medications save lives. Therapy can help too. My Catholic faith has helped me carry my cross as well. I do not take any addictive medications for my depression and anxiety disorder.
As a result of two car accidents I have chronic pain 24/7. Depression resulting from this is unbearable.
You may have trauma pain. Try chiropractic
Oh I’m so sorry 😞. My husband was in constant chronic pain due to his disease. He suffered for so long . He died a couple of months ago and did have a holy death . 41 years plus we were married and I miss him , however, he has seen God face to face . Prayers for you my friend. I’m so sorry you’re experiencing chronic pain and the depression that comes with it. 🙏😢🌹
I'm really sorry that your suffering this way, may Jesus give you comfort and rest🤗❤️
Neuro regenerative Chiropractics helped me after car accidents. A vertebra in the middle neck is responsible. No bone crunchers, it has to be be good chiropractics.
I'll say a rosary for you.
I think Matt Walsh is getting too big for his britches and starting to opine on topics without properly researching them.
Kinda like your response 🤔
I'm not responding to the general point BUT to confirm that on this specific subject which requires some good professional training his comments were woefully uninformed.
@@josephodoherty7864 What do you make of this..... ua-cam.com/video/JaKu6TqO6NU/v-deo.html
You should research things like Loren Mosher's Soteria Project, R. D. Laing, or the Rosenhan experiment. Common facts psychiatry is a very dangerous pseudomedicine based on theories, not scientific evidence, and why every other medical field laughs at shrinks, due to this reason, will also come in hand.
It’s so easy to talk about depression or any type of illness.
But, unless one has personally experienced depression(especially the deep daily pains one goes through), they only stay on the periphery.
Only someone going through it or has gone through it understands what the painful daily struggle is like.
I had severe depression for 30+ years going back to childhood. (Unfortunately, It happens that way for many.)
By the grace of God, Jesus grew me through and into victory since 1996.
The healing most need is the HEALING OF A BROKEN HEART - a spiritual healing first that only God can do.
The other issues to heal and work on will follow.
I share this from personal experience. It’s understanding who you are in Christ and knowing Him intimately everyday.
It’s the healing of the broken heart with the focus of JESUS IN YOU (Galatians 2:20).
Christ in you is whom the Father sees. He also desires us to see “Christ in you” more consistently every day.
This has become my daily joy. Knowing Jesus intimately.
Everyday I wake saying, “Today is the Greatest Day of My Life.”
That’s only because of WHO LIVES IN ME.
I'd recommend "Psychomoralitics" by G.C Dilsaver.
So many factors, even the many and varied troubles that come with old age. Why is Father not mentioning the demonic? I dont believe in drugs. Too many terrible casualties. Lead good Catholic life, don't open doors to evil.
He said there were 3 types. Temporary, clinical depression and the third is demonic.
If you don't believe in drugs, what do you do if you have a severe infection that requires antibiotics? Ear infections often need antibiotics to clear them up. Pneumonia usually requires medication as well. I see nothing wrong with taking a prescribed drug for an illness...including a serious mental illness.
It’s believing in something that does not exist- that’s depressing like the church. Just awful.
Once many years ago, I was prescribed Zyrtec (when it was still only available with prescription) and I was SO lethargic, I was convinced I was going through a depression but I realized these thoughts started right when I was taking this drug. One of the side effects? Lethargy. So how many people- especially women on hormonal birth control- are experiencing “depression” as a side effect? But docs just prescribe more drugs
Depression is the result of repressing emotion’s