Breaking down Carmelo Jokic jersey drama, NBA news

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  • @AJ-zy9jf
    @AJ-zy9jf 7 місяців тому +1347

    Melo is a Knick.
    He wanted out of Denver.
    Denver has 0 obligations to retire his jersey.

    • @kareemi7080
      @kareemi7080 7 місяців тому +87

      “I never make it personal with athletes” - Stephan A smith
      “LONZO I HAVE YOUR MEDICAL INFO AND KNOW YOUR DOCTOR IM NOT LYING”
      This after lonzo confronted his lie about not being able to sit down.

    • @shanewilliams5150
      @shanewilliams5150 7 місяців тому +39

      He's barely a knick

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 7 місяців тому +33

      Couldn't disagree more strongly, Melo had his best years in Denver. The Knicks did squat in his years there. And it's not a question of obligation. Melo completely turned the Nuggets franchise around from a perennial garbage team into regular winning and playoffs every year. He handled the trade situation with class and by going via trade instead of free agency the Nuggets got a huge haul from the Knicks including a draft pick that became Jamal Murray. The Nuggets owners have been petty. They should have kept the #15 so they could retire Melo's number and given Jokic another number so his jersey could eventually join Melo's in the rafters here.

    • @Disxreet
      @Disxreet 7 місяців тому +60

      @@tompratt7125doesn’t change the fact that his best years resulted in getting bounced out. He forced his way out of Denver with that terrible trade.

    • @MM-xc2bt
      @MM-xc2bt 7 місяців тому +42

      ​@tompratt7125 going to the playoffs and his best years didn't mean anything to Melo. That's why he wanted out of Denver. Staying in Denver didn't matter to melo why would retiring his # in Denver matter?

  • @jr.3308
    @jr.3308 7 місяців тому +1008

    Chauncey Billups said it best about Melo - "...he could have games where he had 20, 22 [points], we win the game, and he’s mad. He might have 36, and he’s in there, you know, we lose the game, and he’s in there picking everybody up. Scoring 30 meant too much." Melo is remembered as one of the greatest scorers, Jokic will be remembered as a 2-time MVP and a CHAMPION.

    • @JohnS-gf4sz
      @JohnS-gf4sz 7 місяців тому +66

      multiple champ when it's all said and done...

    • @snapbackznfitz
      @snapbackznfitz 7 місяців тому +8

      @@JohnS-gf4sznaw they’ll never win again

    • @curiosityredpill7030
      @curiosityredpill7030 7 місяців тому

      And that’s before analytics took over

    • @Disxreet
      @Disxreet 7 місяців тому +3

      @@snapbackznfitzJust like Dirk

    • @snapbackznfitz
      @snapbackznfitz 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Disxreetexactly like Dirk 🤷🏾‍♂️ Gone hold on to that championship forever

  • @DeathFORcameO
    @DeathFORcameO 7 місяців тому +186

    Jokic gave Nuggets a ring, not Carmelo. So 15 is Jokic for the Denver franchise.

    • @Chris56076
      @Chris56076 6 місяців тому

      Which is petty. Nuggets gave it away

    • @EmeraldArcher
      @EmeraldArcher 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Chris56076he wanted out. He's said that he didn't want to be there if Denver wanted to rebuld.

    • @capitalg1415
      @capitalg1415 5 місяців тому

      @@EmeraldArchercause why you rebuilding when they had a perfect team just a shitty coach lol jokic gots todays ruies advantage not better than melo

    • @EmeraldArcher
      @EmeraldArcher 5 місяців тому

      @@capitalg1415 Carmelo said it himself on all the smoke. I'm not talking about Jokic.

  • @jilesqstewart
    @jilesqstewart 7 місяців тому +261

    I have been a Nuggets fan all my life and when Melo was drafted, I cheered even more, because Carmelo was a Great player. But when he forced his way out of Denver, I was upset and the fan base didn't appreciate his actions. But now, with that being said, NIKOLA JOKIC will go down as the greatest Nuggets player of all time. He is a walking Legend in his prime. Carmelo is just jealous, because he doesn't have a ring or MVP on his resume.

    • @berryesseen
      @berryesseen 7 місяців тому +31

      Even if Jokic leaves Denver in the future, which by the way has

    • @nilesmaxwell758
      @nilesmaxwell758 7 місяців тому +1

      He didn't force his way out...

    • @vamoneygroup
      @vamoneygroup 7 місяців тому

      Nobody cares about Jokic. His TV ratings are abysmal. Even in the finals nobody watches. The only people who care are internet bots and race warriors.

    • @NikolaTodorovic-
      @NikolaTodorovic- 7 місяців тому +14

      @@nilesmaxwell758 he did

    • @Juan_rivera
      @Juan_rivera 7 місяців тому +7

      Remember when he said "I can't pass the ball to myself? Pepperidge farm remembers

  • @David-mu8hn
    @David-mu8hn 7 місяців тому +1554

    I love Melo and when he was in his prime he was a beast.
    However Jokic is in another class, there is no comparison at all.

    • @lionelsheja6381
      @lionelsheja6381 7 місяців тому +26

      True, but for one of your best players EVER you gotta retire his jersey.

    • @user-sw1fz9vc6r
      @user-sw1fz9vc6r 7 місяців тому +161

      ​@lionelsheja6381 they ain't gotta do shit, he left them forced his way out lmao they can do w.e

    • @OMG-si3wn
      @OMG-si3wn 7 місяців тому +91

      @@lionelsheja6381 he literally disrespected the franchise

    • @GelatoBoii
      @GelatoBoii 7 місяців тому +31

      @@lionelsheja6381Melo won’t admit this but he never had best interest for Denver after all. Right after his buddy Lebron got Swept by the Nuggets themselves, he suddenly announced his retirement. Just like Lebron had made retirement comments same night😂 Like Coach Malone said “the narrative wasn’t about us”🎯 “put that in your pipe & smoke it”🗣️ it’s deeper than a jersey number but Melo refuses to admit😭

    • @dnn32
      @dnn32 7 місяців тому +5

      It is as KD wants okc to retire his jersey. Quite similar examples.

  • @nicholsdeshan
    @nicholsdeshan 7 місяців тому +610

    Ray Allen had a solid Bucks career mare it to the ECF lost a Game 7 to Sixers but you don't hear him saying Bucks should retire his 34 now that Giannis wear that number

    • @ks-li4ic
      @ks-li4ic 7 місяців тому +115

      Best point on this matter…excatly the same

    • @MussoliniEsco
      @MussoliniEsco 7 місяців тому +35

      Ray was never mvp caliber in Milwaukee. Melo was never mvp caliber in Denver. Those #s don’t deserve to be retired in their honor

    • @mauriceamos4006
      @mauriceamos4006 7 місяців тому +27

      @@MussoliniEsco melo came in 3rd twice for the mvp race I stg yall don’t be knowing what yall talking about

    • @MussoliniEsco
      @MussoliniEsco 7 місяців тому +58

      @@mauriceamos4006 3rd place ain’t 2nd or 1st. And Melo was never considered a top 3 player in the nba at any point while in Denver. Cut the bullshit

    • @mauriceamos4006
      @mauriceamos4006 7 місяців тому +20

      @@MussoliniEsco you cut the bullshit bruh, I think y’all sleep on melo I’m not saying he better than jokic but can you imagine going against prime lebron, prime Kobe, shaq with d wade, Boston big 3, the spurs big 3, and Dwight in Orlando, Steve Nash and the suns and people on yo case about not winning mvp😂 alot of people felt like jokic shouldn’t have even won his first mvp over lebron and Giannis cut ts out

  • @ElReyRiaga
    @ElReyRiaga 7 місяців тому +315

    Jokic winning a Championship did what we all expected Carmelo, Chauncey AND Iverson to do

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 7 місяців тому +15

      And Kenyon Martin

    • @youngmelo3717
      @youngmelo3717 7 місяців тому +20

      Why do casuals always think these 3 were in the same team at the same time. I literally argue with casuals all the time who think these 3 played together

    • @marcinolszewski2260
      @marcinolszewski2260 7 місяців тому +13

      Dude, i definitely didnt expect Nuggets thuggets to win back then. Fun team to watch, but they were going up against prime Spurs, Suns and Lakers with Kobe. And Melo as good as he was he was never considered the best player in the league. Meanwhile Jokic is 2x mvp (should be 3) and once his team got healthy he got a ring.

    • @unggading6990
      @unggading6990 7 місяців тому +5

      @@youngmelo3717 Yeah! this dude is delusional. Nobody is expecting Melo to win anything.

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 7 місяців тому +1

      I NEVER would've expected that trio to be more than a hot mess that sometimes might look good together. We never got to see it, though, cuz Iverson was traded for Billups, and McDyess.

  • @collinsodhiambo3116
    @collinsodhiambo3116 7 місяців тому +22

    Trust me Joker is never going to talk about this shit if the media ask him about it. Thats the difference between the 2 guys. Melo salty AF.

  • @theefficiale3900
    @theefficiale3900 7 місяців тому +1928

    Jokic chasing the greatest players who have ever played he passed Melo up two years ago

    • @darrellsaunders6089
      @darrellsaunders6089 7 місяців тому +35

      😂 naw he's gotta get in the top 15 first

    • @thomasnguyen3925
      @thomasnguyen3925 7 місяців тому +52

      Passed them yes, chasing them? Not even a lil

    • @cmoney1818
      @cmoney1818 7 місяців тому +6

      Last year..

    • @nugglife3035
      @nugglife3035 7 місяців тому

      Stop playing kid. Jokic is better than your 20 favorite players of all time.​@@darrellsaunders6089

    • @tony4534
      @tony4534 7 місяців тому +30

      @@thomasnguyen3925Jokic chasing.

  • @juliothom2408
    @juliothom2408 7 місяців тому +450

    What drama? Melo won JACK SQUAT, and Jokic won a ring and an FMVP.

    • @berdeauxlaveau6515
      @berdeauxlaveau6515 7 місяців тому +57

      and 2 league mvps

    • @aldenduffieldIII
      @aldenduffieldIII 7 місяців тому +64

      And was robbed of a 3rd

    • @BiGEe87
      @BiGEe87 7 місяців тому

      ​@@aldenduffieldIII📠📠📠

    • @percymims4860
      @percymims4860 7 місяців тому +5

      And played nobody .. only other big in the league is Joel … bro has no competition

    • @mdotbeedot
      @mdotbeedot 7 місяців тому

      @percymims4860 He faced against the twin towers in Minnesota KAT & Rudy, and then AD who was supposed to be the Jokic stopper.
      Stop it.

  • @Mike_G737
    @Mike_G737 7 місяців тому +40

    Jokic won a chip for Denver that should be the end of discussion.

  • @mdquaglia
    @mdquaglia 7 місяців тому +11

    I have no dog in this fight.
    1) Melo wanted out of Denver.
    2) The Nuggets gave #15 to a 2nd round pick who had worn that number his entire life.
    3) Jokic has clearly ascended into a class that Melo never reached.
    Melo needs to let this go.

  • @uncledrew5804
    @uncledrew5804 7 місяців тому +762

    5:58 is when he actually starts talking about the Melo and Jokic jersey number thing. Save you some time.

  • @heybro6105
    @heybro6105 7 місяців тому +170

    Carmelo left without a title or an MVP. #15 belongs to The Joker

    • @TechnoRap64
      @TechnoRap64 7 місяців тому +2

      What crack rock u smoking?melo still better of all time

    • @drop9446
      @drop9446 7 місяців тому +4

      @@TechnoRap64 no he aint

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому +13

      @@TechnoRap64 At what? Bad planning stat padding and not playing defense?

    • @henryp5165
      @henryp5165 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TechnoRap64says the guy taking fentanyl with his dumb take

    • @animalhouse8849
      @animalhouse8849 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TechnoRap64 Put the pipe down

  • @vangjohnny08
    @vangjohnny08 7 місяців тому +153

    I was born and raised in Denver,Co and Melo was the reason I even got into watching basketball. He made the Nuggets fun to watch and became my favorite player. With that said, the way he left Denver left a sour taste in fans and the organizations mouths. He did a lot for the Nuggets, but to make Jokic change numbers isnt fair to Jokic. Melo was a good player, but Jokic is a great player. I think if Melo left denver in better terms we wouldnt even be having this arguement. The way Melo left he did it in a way where it felt like idgaf i just want out mentality. So to see him crying now about not retiring his jersey is kinda funny to me. He should just focus on having the Knicks retire his jersey, because the Nuggets wont be doing it lol

    • @Rugbyrug
      @Rugbyrug 7 місяців тому +3

      If you seen the actual video, he’s not crying. He felt a way once Jokic came on the court wearing 15 in general. It’s more about the organization having a nasty taste in their mouth compared to Jokic. Imagine a Magic player wearing 12 and that person going and winning a chip and two mvps and now you can’t retire Dwights jersey. That’s crazy. But look at that roster tho, no matter how bad of an organization the Magic is, nobody wears 12. That’s my point.

    • @cmc5394oparva
      @cmc5394oparva 7 місяців тому +29

      @@Rugbyrug Denver was under no obligation to put #15 on ice for a player who was still in the prime of his career when they drafted Jokic, never wore the number again, and was Jokic's number when he was in Serbia. Melo, once again, making all about him instead of the team.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому +6

      Yep unless you won some chips and left on good terms, there's literally no reason your old number should be reserved or even considered for retirement when you leave at age 28-29 in the middle of your career

    • @vangjohnny08
      @vangjohnny08 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Rugbyrug I feel bad for the guy bcuz he was once my favorite player. Its a hard arguement bcuz Melo did do a lot for the Nuggets. But the org had no obligation to hold his number when he was still in his prime playing in NY. Also nobody ever thought a 41st pick would do what hes doing so this is a crazy situation to happen in the first place. I wouldnt even be mad if when Jokic retires the Nuggets retire them both. Melos 15 in the Sky Blue color and Jokic with the Current colors. That would be a win/win.

    • @jorgethegreat
      @jorgethegreat 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Rugbyrugnah, no one would have thought Jokic when he was drafted would be this good. If Jokic was a scrub while wearing 15, we wouldn't even have this issue. But then Jokic became the player he is today. Melo is barking at the wrong tree. He has no one to blame or maybe if he wants to blame something, which is himself when he left Denver.

  • @mad_max_82
    @mad_max_82 7 місяців тому +22

    Jokic is real 15! There is no question.

  • @Maine_87
    @Maine_87 7 місяців тому +304

    Melo should be thankful that Jokic let him borrow the number before he arrived.

  • @PlanetOfTheApes999
    @PlanetOfTheApes999 7 місяців тому +544

    A crucial stat is missing from those lists - how much more efficient Jokic is than Melo ever was.

    • @DiamondEDC
      @DiamondEDC 7 місяців тому +16

      In general, all bigs are more efficient than wings / perimeter players

    • @bgd.11
      @bgd.11 7 місяців тому +25

      and finals MVP

    • @youngmelo3717
      @youngmelo3717 7 місяців тому +4

      No way it’s almost like he’s a center or something

    • @unggading6990
      @unggading6990 7 місяців тому +37

      Efficient? lol, Melo was never comparable to Jokic. They don't belong in the same universe.

    • @kamotengkahoy2850
      @kamotengkahoy2850 7 місяців тому +18

      @@DiamondEDCbigs that camping under the basket. Not all bigs plays like embiid and jokic.

  • @windowlickersllc252
    @windowlickersllc252 7 місяців тому +69

    As someone who has lived in Denver their whole life before this interview Carmelo Anthony was viewed mostly with indifference rather than hatred due to the amount of time since he forced his way out of Denver. Now Carmelo has thrown metaphorical gasoline on a fire that was mostly out and he has no one to blame but himself.

    • @Chris56076
      @Chris56076 6 місяців тому

      Nah melo is not to blame for nuggets giving his number away. Stop it

  • @petebutterboxing
    @petebutterboxing 7 місяців тому +37

    5:54 is when he starts actually talking about Jokic

  • @jjmmat133
    @jjmmat133 7 місяців тому +138

    Melo force his way out of Denver and now he wants his jersey retire on Denver

    • @jbhatts610
      @jbhatts610 7 місяців тому +17

      👏👏 - getting tired of the whole number thing anyway!

    • @dnn32
      @dnn32 7 місяців тому +7

      It is as KD complains abt the same thing with OKC.

    • @billalzerouali2528
      @billalzerouali2528 7 місяців тому

      doesnt really matter

    • @Losttimes1992
      @Losttimes1992 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@billalzerouali2528The zero rings make it matter!

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому

      @@dnn32 At least KD played like 10 years for the organization though, and played defense, won an MVP, plus he's part of the beginning of OKC's history too along with Westbrook etc. Melo on the other hand just wanted to score 30 points whether it was good or bad for the team, didn't play defense, etc and unlike OKC and Durant, the Nuggets were already a team with history so, outside of us who were around to watch and enjoy the 2000's Nuggets, that team won't really be remembered

  • @Jmurda1983
    @Jmurda1983 7 місяців тому +120

    Nobody thought Jokic was going to turn into the player that he is tho…..the Nuggets weren’t thinking that deep into it at the time to be petty

    • @CyrogenicNation
      @CyrogenicNation 7 місяців тому +3

      It was because Jokic was a nobody that makes it even more petty, Melo has a point but Denver shouldn't retire his number anyways

    • @neutral_10
      @neutral_10 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@CyrogenicNationwhy it's not like he attends the games

    • @cmc5394oparva
      @cmc5394oparva 7 місяців тому +19

      @@CyrogenicNation There wasn't a single thing petty about it. Melo left 4.5 years earlier, he was still in the prime of his career, never wore the number again, and Jokic had that number when he played in Serbia, so Denver obliged him. Melo's the one being petty, conspiratorial, and self-centered here.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому +9

      @@CyrogenicNation Not petty at all, Melo left and was in the middle of his career. Nobody was thinking about a number "belonging" to a former player, he left and it was an available number. He didn't do anything worth anybody even remembering "That was Melo's number", it's not like Jordan or LeBron with the 23 and 6, or Duncan and Garnett with 21. I forgot he ever wore a number besides 7. Once Melo left it was just another number in circulation, and Jokic did greater things with it than Melo.

  • @SolaceMcfly
    @SolaceMcfly 7 місяців тому +15

    Jokic was a second round pick its no way the nuggets were like "Here wear this so we can spite melo" nobody knew this man would become what he is

  • @cyndyr8938
    @cyndyr8938 7 місяців тому +11

    Biggest difference is melo was a black hole while jokic is super efficient

  • @felas77
    @felas77 7 місяців тому +349

    Melo is delusional. Jokic is 2 levels above Carmelo as a player .

    • @adrianparks9051
      @adrianparks9051 7 місяців тому +2

      Wow 😮‍💨

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 7 місяців тому +13

      How is he delusional? He was a many time all star and all nba player in Denver that turned the franchise completely around. He''s also a top ten scorer all time and will be a first ballot hall of famer. You sound completely ignorant of his career in Denver. Those were his best NBA years. I agree Jokic is a better player but Melo was a great Nugget that absolutely should have his jersey in the rafters here in Denver.

    • @jedimindtricks5713
      @jedimindtricks5713 7 місяців тому +2

      Jokic ranks higher than Melo in the all time list for sure, BUT in a 1 v 1 Melo would dawg Jokic 😂

    • @jedimindtricks5713
      @jedimindtricks5713 7 місяців тому +2

      @@tompratt7125Bro I’m a big Melo fan but Melo knows damn well Jokic ranks higher than him all time and deservingly so. But in a 1 v 1 Melo would dawg him lol

    • @magnol1a_
      @magnol1a_ 7 місяців тому +26

      @@tompratt7125 0 rings

  • @votdfak
    @votdfak 7 місяців тому +184

    Let me tell you something:
    1. (and not even close) Melo thinks the world revolves around him
    2. They gave #15 to Anthony Randolph before Joker (no problem with that Melo?)
    3. Joker wore #15 loooong before NBA

    • @BrandynThom
      @BrandynThom 7 місяців тому +4

      To not know someone, and say they think the world revolves around them is very assuming

    • @sthao1733
      @sthao1733 7 місяців тому +58

      @@BrandynThom well, you can gather that by simply watching the carmelo video. he didnt even do his research. he just felt like denver tried to erase his history with the team by giving his number to jokic. but if that mfer would have done his research, he would know that jokic was already wearing that same number. this isnt some ploy by denver to erase carmelo. thats why carmelo thinks the world revolves around him, because its always about him.

    • @deepaknambisan3251
      @deepaknambisan3251 7 місяців тому

      @@sthao1733🎯🎯🎯

    • @smwhtunknown
      @smwhtunknown 7 місяців тому +25

      ⁠@@sthao1733on top of that. Joker was a 22 mpg 2nd round Role Player when he got the number. He really thinks Joker was given that number cause Denver knew he was on pace to be a HOF’er? 😂
      Like Giannis, NO ONE so Joker being THIS good 😂 the man’s damn near went undrafted!!

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому +11

      @@BrandynThom Melo is a famous person, we know enough about him to be able to say he does think the world revolves around him

  • @_viewsfromthed
    @_viewsfromthed 7 місяців тому +35

    This is an unique situation. While I understand why Melo would say something, he has to accept that Jokic has simply accomplished more than him. He brought a title to the city, won multiple MVPs, great ambassador of the team, etc. There's levels to this.

  • @draginnahu3712
    @draginnahu3712 7 місяців тому +5

    The funny thing about this melo/jokic is that jokic doesn’t even care about this

  • @shaheemtaylor960
    @shaheemtaylor960 7 місяців тому +205

    Melo is one of the greatest ever however Jokic is entering a different atmosphere of all time greats. Multiple times MVP with a Ring yeah it’s his Jersey number now.

    • @Young-ep8ik
      @Young-ep8ik 7 місяців тому +13

      Exactly Melo is one of those borderline top 75 players. Jokic has a great chance to be top 10 when all is said and done.

    • @tamukachinyadza1095
      @tamukachinyadza1095 7 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@Young-ep8iktop 10 in scoring is boarderline ?😂

    • @derpderpy818
      @derpderpy818 7 місяців тому +15

      @@tamukachinyadza1095 He's also top 5 in bricks too, he's a selfish chucker and that's why he never won shit

    • @Young-ep8ik
      @Young-ep8ik 7 місяців тому +4

      @@tamukachinyadza1095 alex english retired as the 7th leading scorer and look at him now. Melo retired as 9th and will be dropping out soon as well. He is trash outside scoring. Even as a scorer he was inefficient. KD, Kobe, lebron, Dirk, Dwade, paul pierce all had better career true shooting percentage.

    • @hiphop2u
      @hiphop2u 7 місяців тому +1

      When we say melo is one of the greatest, we mean top 25.
      When we say Jokic will go down in history as one of the greatest players ever, we mean he’s projected to make top 5 fasho.

  • @s.w.matteo6679
    @s.w.matteo6679 7 місяців тому +195

    I'm taking Jokic all day, everyday.

    • @TechnoRap64
      @TechnoRap64 7 місяців тому +1

      What crack u on?melo is better all time

    • @OotoriKyouya
      @OotoriKyouya 7 місяців тому

      @@TechnoRap64 Melo won nothing. No chip. No individual awards. NOTHING. If anyone is on crack, it's you

    • @njelk
      @njelk 7 місяців тому +13

      @@TechnoRap64 What did you just say? A guy that never got it done is better than a guy that got it done? Also, a guy that did way more in half the seasons than Melo did his entire career? You are trippin.

    • @Ilestun
      @Ilestun 7 місяців тому +5

      @@TechnoRap64 Melo isnt even a hallèof fame. Jokic is already top 30 all time, and on his way to top 10.

    • @calekeva8894
      @calekeva8894 7 місяців тому +7

      @@TechnoRap64 I literally shat my pants how much i laughed at that comment 🤣🤣🤣

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm 7 місяців тому +10

    The ironic thing is there had recently been momentum in the Nuggets diehard fanbase to reconnect with Melo, for the team to reconnect and get on a more positive footing with him. For everyone to focus on his years with the Nuggets and not his forcing a move out of Denver. But he has just blown all that up.

  • @oocinom
    @oocinom 7 місяців тому +4

    Who would you rather retire? A 2x MVP, 1 Finals MVP, NBA Champion or a dude who only won a Scoring Title? LOL

  • @Hellcure
    @Hellcure 7 місяців тому +53

    Jokic always wore the number 15 jersey before he even went to nuggets anyway

    • @SarahNGeti
      @SarahNGeti 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! Melo is being "melo-dramatic!" 🤭😂

  • @CashMoney5280
    @CashMoney5280 7 місяців тому +89

    Melo dont even go to nuggets games, he would actually get boo’ed if he comes here 🤷🏽‍♂️ #15 belongs to jokic

    • @atrain2345
      @atrain2345 7 місяців тому +12

      He got booed when he was playing for the Knicks, he got yall jamal Murray with that 1st rd pick

    • @sdcrocks
      @sdcrocks 7 місяців тому

      And he blames the Knicks for not putting a team around him when he's the reason they didn't have assets. People forgetting that he was in a contract year and couldnt even be bothered to wait until free agency. Stop tryna tell a fan base how to feel about a player..@@atrain2345

  • @jesstiss222
    @jesstiss222 7 місяців тому +8

    As a 50yo Denver native and lifelong Nuggets fan … Melo HOF - absolutely! 👏
    Melo 15 retired in Denver - oh _hellllll_ no! ✋😂

  • @Bask3tChase
    @Bask3tChase 7 місяців тому +9

    Carmelo is just illustrating how once you get a certain amount of fame and money, the people around you will tell you what you want to hear to stay in your good graces in hopes of getting something out of it instead of being real with you and telling you what you need to hear.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 7 місяців тому

      Man is Delulu ….= delusional

  • @s7654r
    @s7654r 7 місяців тому +37

    If i was in Melo's situation, I would have been happy for my ex team for winning a championship and developemnt such a team and player in Jokic. I will be happy. The fact that Melo is bring this up is that he is the most petty player in history of NBA.

    • @snapbackznfitz
      @snapbackznfitz 7 місяців тому +1

      Why tf would he be happy for a team that didn’t even wanna keep his team together to run it back ?

    • @sawyeral
      @sawyeral 7 місяців тому +11

      They had the same team the next year. They replaced Dahntay Jones with Aaron Aflalo, and that’s it. Do some research before you fall for Melo revisionism. He wanted to be in New York and that’s the reason he left.

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville 7 місяців тому +5

      @@sawyeral If Melo says otherwise he's absolutely full of shit. He wanted to go to NYC....and, maybe more importantly, his wife wanted to go to NYC. I remember reading a big ESPN The Magazine article back in the day where Melo was picture, smoking a cigar, talking about how he wanted to get his "brand" out there and he obviously thought NYC was the place to do it.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 7 місяців тому +6

      He never even visited Denver after he left @@KClouisville

    • @jigga4343
      @jigga4343 7 місяців тому +4

      Melo didnt even watch a single Finals game last season. He watched the Knicks' PO games tho

  • @Dashawn.B
    @Dashawn.B 7 місяців тому +33

    Carmelo Anthony popularized the forced trade.

    • @milestonecomics8049
      @milestonecomics8049 7 місяців тому

      Lied y'all just be saying shit

    • @JSauer21
      @JSauer21 7 місяців тому

      Ummm definitely not. Not even close really

    • @RonhozZ
      @RonhozZ 7 місяців тому +3

      and playing no defense

  • @kennethkinkel4868
    @kennethkinkel4868 7 місяців тому +8

    Thank you Stephan A the Nuggets had no ill intentions either.
    1. Anthony Rudolph got number before Jokic after Melo.
    2. No one including Denver could have ever dreamed a 41st pick 2nd rounder would he in conversations as an all timer.
    3. Jokic wore the number 15 as a kid.
    4 your right the Nuggets owe him nothing the number will be retired in Jokic honor!

  • @rankobarensic
    @rankobarensic 7 місяців тому +6

    Jokic was wearing #15 in Serbia at age 17..😊😉🇷🇸❤❗️☦️💯

  • @pepamethodman
    @pepamethodman 7 місяців тому +11

    JOKIC WORE 15 BEFORE HE CAME INTO NBA

  • @TheBoombooman
    @TheBoombooman 7 місяців тому +34

    Melo only care about Jokic's number is because Jokic became the best player in the NBA and brought a chip to Denver while he the previous owner of that number didn't do any of that

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah it's really feminine for Melo to vocally be acting like this over an old number going to someone else, who happened to do better things with it. That's like if Melo owned a house/property he got tired of, sold it and moved to a penthouse in New York, then Jokic comes along and buys the house/property and upgrades it and then Melo comes crying about how it's not fair Jokic made the property look so good and says he wants his old house back

    • @sirochsittisombut1063
      @sirochsittisombut1063 7 місяців тому +1

      True, the way Melo pouted reminds me of a jilted ex-girlfriend

  • @laasuncion549
    @laasuncion549 7 місяців тому +6

    From J Lin to Jokic. I see the pattern.😅

  • @Maple-sirop
    @Maple-sirop 7 місяців тому +5

    Carmelo’s attitude during Linsanity and his relationship with Lin after transfers spoke volume about his character, also remarks from his coach Karl and teammate Chauncey Billups both extremely intelligent people

  • @BlackMarvel25
    @BlackMarvel25 7 місяців тому +22

    When he got the first mvp that was it between who's the better player and more deserving. Joker deserves this. If you want to retire both, that's fine, but you have to do jokic first. He's that much better and more impactful

    • @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835
      @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 7 місяців тому +3

      You were very accurate on your comment. I just think that even retiring Anthony's Jersey is insulting to Jokic.

    • @BlackMarvel25
      @BlackMarvel25 7 місяців тому +2

      @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 they have to do something for Melo to acknowledge what he did for the franchise. Because for a long time he was all alone and only had a broke down Iverson for 2 years and a veteran Billups for 1 very good year. He didn't have a jamal Murray, or mpj. The league was way different then too.

    • @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835
      @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 7 місяців тому

      @@BlackMarvel25 yeah, I am not saying that Carmelo was bad or that he didn't help Denver. I agree with you. But there is no way that you treat both the same by retiring both jerseys. And I am not even considering the way Anthony left the team.

    • @vostboymedia
      @vostboymedia 7 місяців тому

      Real hoppers know mvp don't matter that's why jokic didn't win last year because dudes in suits just pick a guy but yeah 15 is jokic number he won a championship in that number

  • @jeditechniques
    @jeditechniques 7 місяців тому +41

    Man I miss those old jerseys. Melo and Iverson days were so much fun.

    • @russenterprise6502
      @russenterprise6502 7 місяців тому +3

      Me too, but their tandem was short lived. If AI came to Denver in 04-05 he and Melo would gotten out of the first round together and maybe AI gets his number retired in Denver too had he played 3-4 or 5 seasons there, he was their year in a half

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 7 місяців тому +2

      Regular season, maybe. Nothing muchg fun about losing in the 1st rd.

  • @AL.J0077
    @AL.J0077 7 місяців тому +4

    Carmelo didn’t do enough for his number to be retired, im sorry
    KD’s #35 for okc was worn after he left
    Dwight’s #12 for the magic was worn immediately after he left
    They left on bad terms aswell but they accomplished more than melo did in denver

  • @user-pb4hv3wz1j
    @user-pb4hv3wz1j 7 місяців тому +3

    Jokic is a walking triple double with 2 mvps and a ring. It doesn't matter what number he's wearing

  • @cuzlightyear6184
    @cuzlightyear6184 7 місяців тому +24

    Melo Denver jersey went triple platinum in every hood

    • @bigmike676767
      @bigmike676767 7 місяців тому +3

      AND MY JEWELS BLUE AND YELLOW THE TYPE OF SHIT THAT MAKE EM CALL YOU CARMELO

    • @knowitall3892
      @knowitall3892 7 місяців тому +5

      Shoes too

    • @cuzlightyear6184
      @cuzlightyear6184 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah Stephen A don’t know we been retired and hung up his jersey down here in the ghetto

    • @Losttimes1992
      @Losttimes1992 7 місяців тому +6

      Throw that jersey away from a ringless complainer.

    • @Walrus286
      @Walrus286 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Fat Lever and Mutumbo have their jerseys retired for the Nuggets. Melo had a much better Nuggets career than both - during an era where the West was a nightmare. Retire both 15s. Give melo a sky blue banner to match the jersey from that era.

  • @CashMoney5280
    @CashMoney5280 7 місяців тому +18

    Melo salty asf. Jokic owns 15 & it will be hanged on the rafters here in Denver after its all said & done. One is a 2x league mvp and a finals mvp and the other is just a conference finals participant 🤷🏽‍♂️ he left denver because his ex wife told him too keep the same energy 👋🏽

  • @elbruces
    @elbruces 7 місяців тому +1

    When they drafted Jokic, nobody saw how great he'd become. There was no reason not to give him a known number. Also, Melo's a Knick, not a Nugget.

  • @cainslawyer8058
    @cainslawyer8058 7 місяців тому +5

    Skip to 5:54 if you want to listen to the Jokic/Melo talk instead of SAS ego rambling about himself

  • @HTgirls-mt1mm
    @HTgirls-mt1mm 7 місяців тому +12

    Jokic surpassed Melo at this point.

    • @user-ux9fv7qn4u
      @user-ux9fv7qn4u 7 місяців тому +4

      He has already done that around 3 or maybe 4 years ago

    • @UselessVoidBobo
      @UselessVoidBobo 7 місяців тому

      ​@@user-ux9fv7qn4u I agree. Jokic surpassed Melo when he won his first MVP, case closed.

  • @sportacularfilms-stf3463
    @sportacularfilms-stf3463 7 місяців тому +4

    I don't think they were trying to intentionally erase Melo's legacy in Denver, Jokic was a second-round pick if he was your normal second-round caliber player this would never be a conversation, he just happened to become a great franchise player and just happened to have Melo's number. If Jokic was a number 1 pick and they gave him that number then yeah Melo would have a valid argument.

  • @pchristopher99
    @pchristopher99 7 місяців тому +3

    Nuggets need to invite Melo to the Jokic jersey retirement ceremony.

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 7 місяців тому +37

    Melo should’ve joined with Bron and Wade instead of taking the 5 year deal.

    • @SonofMedusa420
      @SonofMedusa420 7 місяців тому +1

      Some brothers stand out from the suckas bro not every player chasing rings the ring is a plus if they achieve one in their career yourself legacy is everything

    • @chengxiong6806
      @chengxiong6806 7 місяців тому +13

      😂Melo only care about himself and money's.

    • @hexagonoctogon3140
      @hexagonoctogon3140 7 місяців тому +2

      My only gripe with him smh chasing rhe money fucked his career up

    • @MM-xc2bt
      @MM-xc2bt 7 місяців тому +7

      He wanted $ not rings

    • @russenterprise6502
      @russenterprise6502 7 місяців тому +1

      Wanted money over rings, it was Melo decision not like LeBron he wanted to win it all with Wade that shows that LBJ is a winner even his nba finals record is 4-6

  • @613trapman5
    @613trapman5 7 місяців тому +11

    This podcast gets me through my shift at work!

  • @bobanristic8721
    @bobanristic8721 7 місяців тому +2

    Jokic had been using #15 in Serbia, long before coming to NBA.He requested that number.

  • @patrik32
    @patrik32 7 місяців тому

    I Usually can't stand Stephen A.'s loud style in arguments, however when he is coming out alone to talk about topics he is amazing

  • @bubblesthemonkey6615
    @bubblesthemonkey6615 7 місяців тому +9

    MELO DIDN’T EVEN WANT TO PLAY FOR US! We don’t hate the guy but come on. You left us because you wanted to, fine, but don’t turn around and expect to be adored by Denver fans after you pretty much pissed in our mouths.

    • @TheShapeshifter
      @TheShapeshifter 7 місяців тому +1

      That's because the owner wanted to rebuild the team. Why would Melo want to stay and sit through all that when he's trying to win a chip?

    • @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835
      @thiagomennabarretoguedes2835 7 місяців тому

      Your comment was very visual, hehehe. I agree 100%. (Except for the pissing part, I am not a Denver fan, hehehe).

    • @pedjapavlovic6722
      @pedjapavlovic6722 7 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@TheShapeshifter.. did Melo win a ring after he left Denver? No he didn’t.

    • @sawyeral
      @sawyeral 7 місяців тому

      @TheShapeshifter. They had the same team the next year. They replaced Dahntay Jones with Aaron Aflalo, and that’s it. Do some research before you fall for Melo revisionism. He wanted to be in New York and that’s the reason he left.

  • @larry7960
    @larry7960 7 місяців тому +11

    They should do it like the Cowboys treat #88. Whoever is the franchise player wears #15

    • @bogoljubdjordjevic7528
      @bogoljubdjordjevic7528 7 місяців тому

      That's how we in Europe doing same like football numbers is just position where you play!

    • @sdcrocks
      @sdcrocks 7 місяців тому

      Nah we good

  • @3rdeye931
    @3rdeye931 7 місяців тому +2

    The Carmelo-Jokic jersey “drama” has been put to rest. Anyone still arguing it is either crazy, racist, or dumb.

  • @sdogg
    @sdogg 7 місяців тому +2

    Only SAS could take 15 minutes to make a 1 minute point

  • @ryankayombya7576
    @ryankayombya7576 7 місяців тому +40

    Melo was fighting for his life losing in the 1st round every year with that 15

    • @Bubjohnson
      @Bubjohnson 7 місяців тому +6

      True but Melo also played in a way tougher era don’t get me wrong Jokic a better all around player but don’t act like Melo didn’t put Denver back on the map and he held his own the 1 year he had a championship team they ran into a prime Kobe🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Gmossy11
      @Gmossy11 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Bubjohnsonno one will remember that ir sucks but that’s life

    • @Bubjohnson
      @Bubjohnson 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Gmossy11 speak for yourself

    • @marvin6119
      @marvin6119 7 місяців тому +2

      melo is a hero ball player. that only works on specific crunches

    • @DHILLA-yz4rx
      @DHILLA-yz4rx 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Bubjohnsonthanks. This why I dont even respond to comments. This is the worst era ever in basketball. Melo played in a way tougher western conference. Dirk spurs kobe to say the least.

  • @atrain2345
    @atrain2345 7 місяців тому +5

    Melo didn't bring it up, he was asked by Mero, and he answer honestly on how he felt at the time , he no longer feels this way, why is everyone missing that point

    • @blu6278
      @blu6278 7 місяців тому +2

      It's social media what you think is gonna happen drama sells

    • @DNickthaBoss
      @DNickthaBoss 7 місяців тому

      @atrain2345 I've been looking for this comment!!! Thank you!!! It's like people just wanna make something out of nothing at this point.

    • @evano1480
      @evano1480 7 місяців тому +1

      It's their podcast. You don't think Melo had that on the agenda? 😂

  • @justified004
    @justified004 7 місяців тому +2

    It's not all about chips. The Nuggets retired jersey for Alex English and Mutumbo. Neither of them have MVPs or chips.

  • @tobyncummins
    @tobyncummins 7 місяців тому +4

    As it has played out I feel like Carmelo trolled himself by travelling back in time and stealing Jokic’s number.

  • @sprintstothebathroomdaily2429
    @sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 7 місяців тому +4

    With the way players score today, melo will be forgotten in a decade. Its sad but it is what it is

    • @RomnysGonzalez
      @RomnysGonzalez 7 місяців тому +1

      He already forgotten as a player. The only reason why people remember him is because he's keep talking about my nuggets to stay relevant.

  • @JohnS-gf4sz
    @JohnS-gf4sz 7 місяців тому +4

    lol Melo is at least two levels below the Joker...

  • @marlowswindow
    @marlowswindow 7 місяців тому +2

    The truth is as a black man that’s been a Nuggets fan, his whole life. We love Carmelo, Anthony, and he marry Lala, and then we started hearing the rumors how he didn’t want to be here and he was pushing his way out so he can go to. New York, which made no sense to the fans of the Nuggets because the team was doing everything they could to put good players around. He wanted to go play in the east where it was going to be easier to get to the finals and still never made it. Carmelo would’ve won one championship in New York. He would’ve never cared about hanging his jersey in Denver, but now hanging jerseys is what his legacy is. You pushed your way out don’t push your way back in. Retire a Knick with hundreds of millions of dollars.

  • @kdot2315
    @kdot2315 7 місяців тому +6

    But him forcing his way out is the only reason they were able to get all those draft picks and players

    • @Swaggmusik1
      @Swaggmusik1 7 місяців тому +3

      Denver fans ain’t seeing how he really blessed them by asking out smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 7 місяців тому

      @@Swaggmusik1 good point, I think instead of Melo saying that Denver purposely had a vendetta by giving #15 to somebody as his pitch to get his number retired, he should be trying to tell people that he left as part of a big plan to help Denver win a championship because he could see the future

  • @leseanwalston7916
    @leseanwalston7916 7 місяців тому +4

    The comparison alone is comical 🤣

  • @nugglife3035
    @nugglife3035 7 місяців тому +4

    Hey Melo, tell Lala to get you a new York Snow globe or some shit... Your name is dead in my city bro.
    Trading you is what built this championship team.😂😂

  • @collinsodhiambo3116
    @collinsodhiambo3116 7 місяців тому +2

    Shannon and Arenas explained this issue perfectly well. How were the Nuggets supposed to know that a 2nd round pick like the 41st pick is going to do twice as better as what Melo was really. Melo is just being salty AF!!!

  • @ranchosdelnorte
    @ranchosdelnorte 7 місяців тому +6

    All Melo had to do was show some love and the organization would've returned the respect. But I haven't heard him say one appreciative thing about his time in Denver since leaving. K-Mart, J.R, Chauncey, Nene, Birdman, Iverson, Camby, and pretty much every other player has shown gratitude about their time on the Nuggets even if they weren't drafted here or if they experience more success elsewhere.
    Also, Nuggets brought back the same team after the WCF and they lost in the first round against Utah, whose most notable player was Milsap. And still had that team the year of the trade. Martin and Chauncey were older and declining, but the team had brought in 2 young promising players in Lawson and Afflalo. What exactly did Melo want the team to do? It's not the team's fault that the West is so loaded and usually had to face a 60 win team led by an MVP right away in the first round despite Nuggets winning over 50 games.

    • @RomnysGonzalez
      @RomnysGonzalez 7 місяців тому +2

      They are all All time Nuggets Legends. KMart,JR,Chauncey,Nene,Iverson,Camby we always cheer for them, always give them applaused every time they go to the games. We give love to the ones who gives us love back. We give love and expect love back and reply with even more love.
      Carmelo meanwhile...

  • @koolflows7581
    @koolflows7581 7 місяців тому +10

    facts melo at times says off the wall stuff

  • @pjaybdizer6870
    @pjaybdizer6870 7 місяців тому +7

    Sorry Melo! Jokic is already the greatest Nugget with that championship, asides even the stats and accolades. Alex English is 2nd… Joker is chasing All-time status, at least for the Center position and he’s the first legit Center to challenge that magnificent 5-6 Centers-Hakeem, Bill, Wilt, Kareem, Moses Malone, and Shaq- Jokic is already at par, if not ahead of Robinson and Ewing.
    Nuggets all time starting 5 - Thompson-English-Melo-Issel-Jokic

    • @vostboymedia
      @vostboymedia 7 місяців тому

      Alex English was a loser as a nugget if it's about winning melo is 2nd mutumbo 3rd English 4th or 5th depends on where you place Murray

    • @sawyeral
      @sawyeral 7 місяців тому

      English got out of the first round more than Melo did. Try again.

    • @vostboymedia
      @vostboymedia 7 місяців тому

      @@sawyeral he had the same career as melo did with the nuggets except English he won a scoring title try again

    • @sawyeral
      @sawyeral 7 місяців тому +1

      @vostboymedia English shot over 50% for his career. Melo was under 45%. All melo could do was score, and he still wasn’t as good a scorer as #2. I watched both as a Denver fan and English was better.

    • @vostboymedia
      @vostboymedia 7 місяців тому

      @@sawyeral I don't think so but whatever man you just explained it Denver fans don't like melo because he didn't want to stay for the rebuild.

  • @RedRanchu
    @RedRanchu 7 місяців тому +1

    Dont even put Melo in the same sentence as Jokic. Jokic is on the path to greatness while Melo never matured until the last minute. Skills and stats aside Jokic hands down has the better attitude and locker room presence. Its incomparable, Jokic is hands down better.

  • @shannonadkinsmusic5767
    @shannonadkinsmusic5767 7 місяців тому +5

    Stephen A talks about himself more than sports.

  • @rainofkhandaq6678
    @rainofkhandaq6678 7 місяців тому +30

    Jokic had the #15 number before he went to the NBA, so they just gave him what he wanted.
    Imagine a timeline with Melo and Jokic on the same team.

    • @okey7118
      @okey7118 7 місяців тому +1

      Who wearing 15 🤔

    • @athammackinaw3082
      @athammackinaw3082 7 місяців тому

      Can't imagine their games working together. One of the greatest in isolation with one the greatest at using team movement?

    • @PlanetOfTheApes999
      @PlanetOfTheApes999 7 місяців тому +1

      Melo doesn't play Jokic ball. I'm glad we don't have inefficient shot chuckers on the Nuggets.

    • @rainofkhandaq6678
      @rainofkhandaq6678 7 місяців тому +2

      @@PlanetOfTheApes999 In a timeline where Jokic was on the team first I would hope he's able to get Melo to buy in. But yeah the Melo we know, no chance

    • @JSauer21
      @JSauer21 7 місяців тому +2

      Melo would have gotten traded for not meshing with Jokic's game

  • @mrudhul696
    @mrudhul696 7 місяців тому +7

    You'll never go personal. 😂😂😂 Steven A funnier than Dave Chappelle with that line.. 😂😂😂
    Man, you are personal everyday and twice on sundays.

  • @bdkq1902
    @bdkq1902 7 місяців тому +1

    I respect Melo as a player, but he was being petty at the podcast.
    1. Nuggets didn't know how valuable Jokic was until now considering he's in the second round of the 2014 draft.
    2. Jokic wore number 15 before going to the League. But the organization lets him wear that number shows how little value Melo impacted.
    3. Melo force himself out of Denver in 2011 to NYC while the picks Denver from the trade became the second-best player in the Nuggets is Jamal Murray.
    4. Melo was a scorer, a selfish one at that, while Jokic is more of a contributor, a passing savant, and a unselfish player who plays for the team, not himself. He could've scored 40 points if he wanted or more but he'd rather let his teammate to get the job done.
    5. Jokic has gave Denver something Melo was craving in his years in the NBA: An MVP, a Larry O'Brien trophy, and a Finals MVP.

  • @dennissvitak5475
    @dennissvitak5475 7 місяців тому +1

    Carmelo had 2.7 assists per game. Him and Kobe were GREAT for the 12 for 27 games, and three assists. He didn't win squat, for a reason.

  • @Airestotle09
    @Airestotle09 7 місяців тому +5

    Jokic is what Bird/Magic was in the 80s. A generational talent and will go down as one of the 10-15 greatest to ever play the game
    I love Melo, but he isnt even in the top 50

  • @kencaid1
    @kencaid1 7 місяців тому +8

    Very not on topic...but the video quality is amazing. You can really tell that you've put effort into the production of the podcast and it looks 10/10. Also guessing the upload is in 60FPS :)

  • @juanpaolomejia1699
    @juanpaolomejia1699 7 місяців тому +1

    I ain't even close anymore. We respect Melo as a Nugget, but Joker is already the undisputed Nuggets 🐐

  • @bgmggeneral2321
    @bgmggeneral2321 7 місяців тому +2

    What’s the problem with just retiring both number 15, Melo deserves his jersey to be up there n the rafters just like the joker. Melo did his thing in Denver when they drafted him in 03 . The nuggets weren’t nothing before Melo got there wasn’t even irrelevant. Mind you yes the joker is doing his thing kinda surpassed him with the Denver nuggets. I believe Melo done more for the nuggets than the knicks just my opinion. I hate the fact that our people try to diminish Melo legacy like he wasn’t a player to be reckoned with in his era yes he didn’t provide a championship but he still was a killer on the court. Joker is a beast in this era right now it’s no comparison they both deserve the number 15 to be retire. Y not ?

  • @timsweeney684
    @timsweeney684 7 місяців тому +4

    All I’ll say is melo has a worse resume in Denver than Tatum already has in Boston. If Tatum retired or left the team today, they aren’t retiring his number.

    • @adrianpheiffer9960
      @adrianpheiffer9960 7 місяців тому +4

      Every team is different.. and Denver ain't no Boston in terms of what gets your jersey retired. So that ain't a good comparison

    • @timsweeney684
      @timsweeney684 7 місяців тому

      @@adrianpheiffer9960 probably not the best comparison lol but still. Melo a first ballot HOFer though I mean no disrespect. Toronto didn’t retire Bosh’s number.

    • @Walrus286
      @Walrus286 7 місяців тому

      Fat Lever and Mutumbo have their jerseys retired for the Nuggets. Melo had a much better Nuggets career than both - during an era where the West was a nightmare. Retire both 15s. Give melo a sky blue banner to match the jersey from that era.

  • @thaofficiall2thad420
    @thaofficiall2thad420 7 місяців тому +5

    Carmelo actually did more with less. Denver was a playoff exit without Murray they giving jokic all credit when he has a team. Jokic is still an all star but lets not act like melo never gave denver something. This the same thing they did with curry when they won pick one player and praise now look how they do curry now

    • @pedjapavlovic6722
      @pedjapavlovic6722 7 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha. You sound bitter. One western conference finals participation. Melo is not a team player, that’s the reason he won nothing. To be a great, you need to lead a team.

  • @samueldavecabanatan2519
    @samueldavecabanatan2519 7 місяців тому +2

    This is such a disrespect for the 2x nba mvp and nba champ Joker. What did CaramelMarshmallow gave the Nuggets? Nothing but a lot of drama ang for being a big primadonna. Remember, he forced his way out of the team, to the Knicks

  • @alexandercorrente5509
    @alexandercorrente5509 7 місяців тому +1

    This is not a 20 plus minute discussion. Jokic. Period.

  • @tony4534
    @tony4534 7 місяців тому +4

    What did Melo even do?

  • @Draxxxthevamp
    @Draxxxthevamp 7 місяців тому +5

    2 points. 1 joker is better than Melo. 2 Denver would rather have joker as the face of the organization over Melo. It’s the mid west 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @unboxingdifferentthings5734
    @unboxingdifferentthings5734 7 місяців тому +2

    Jokic is already the greatest Nugget ever. There should be no drama.

  • @bondssimmons
    @bondssimmons 7 місяців тому +3

    We don’t have to compare Jokic and Melo. Carmelo did enough for the Denver Nuggets to have a jersey retirement ceremony for him. Idk why Jokic even took that number.

    • @drazzzpoppp5022
      @drazzzpoppp5022 7 місяців тому +3

      He wore 15 back home in Serbia

    • @RomnysGonzalez
      @RomnysGonzalez 7 місяців тому +2

      What Melo did? Lose in 1st round? Be a menace to the team off court? force his way out?. Win no awards? achieve nothing? We do retirement for mediocrity now? No wonder the NBA hall of fame is a joke

  • @TuneSquadFTW
    @TuneSquadFTW 7 місяців тому +3

    lol carmelo sounding petty asf

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 7 місяців тому +1

    Melo may be an Olympic Gold Medalist... But dont forget, he was also on that 2004 Bronze team!

  • @wilber1616
    @wilber1616 7 місяців тому +1

    Stephen believed in Jokic before most of the NBA media did. He good with me

  • @grando2750
    @grando2750 7 місяців тому +4

    The problem with this is it became about Melo v Jokic smh when its really about Melo v Denver.
    1) denver gave the jersey to anthony randolph first before jokic got it lol
    2) jokic was a second round pick, so find me the person who expected him to become a face of the franchise type player.
    3) jokic also wore 15 for Team Mega in Serbia (shoutout to the person who gave me that info)
    So, when Melo brought up jokic in the discussion, it does him a disservice imo because the real issue is denver not honoring him (different debate, but i completely understand why they wouldn’t) but now, we’re stuck comparing Melos denver numbers vs Jokics denver numbers, and ofc Jokic has more accolades as a Nugget, so the number gets associated with him more now. Melos my guy, but I wish this discussion had gotten cooked up with the proper context instead of what it is now, just a comparison-fest of Melo/Jokic.

  • @TheJonOrtiz
    @TheJonOrtiz 7 місяців тому +6

    They aren’t the same caliber of player. Melo gotta 🤫