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This is not snake oil. This is an amazing problem solver (as you said) that can save massive amounts of time and effort. However, this is not a specialized tool, this is something that hypothetically can make virtually any/every track more musical, if treated in a subtle and careful way. Finally, "delta" is a pretty common thing on plugins these days--as seen often in Tokyo Dawn's plugins, among others--that simply represents the change in audio post-plugin or what has been taken away/added from/to the original sound by the plugin. If I want to soften the hi hats, for instance, I can click delta and then move the bands around until I have isolated the offending band. I can further adjust and optimize the delta until I am basically hearing the hi hat only as loudly and clearly as possible...then I know I am compressing those sounds I just auditioned via delta and that this is exactly what is being removed by the plugin. I wish every plugin had a delta control so that I could hear exactly what the plugin is changing/affecting.rather than estimating, guessing or fooling myself. It's an objective way to assess the true behavior--always a plus!
Yeah I agree. And the delta was obvious as soon as he pressed it, it was the isolated effected audio that was being processed, a handy reference for sure.
I used it (Soothe2) recently on a vocal track that was ultra-hyped in the upper mid range and lower hi’s, and which also had excessive sibilance... the client recorded his own vocal, in a 6x6 room (feet, not meters) that was completely untreated and highly reflective; to add to that, he printed the track through heavy compression, which further accentuated sibilance... It turns out that the client’s hearing is severely attenuated above 2khz, so he was compensating by boosting the frequencies above that to nuclear meltdown levels, in order to hear “presence” and “sparkle”... which resulted not so much in “sparkle”, but more like the ultra-smooth sounds of a chainsaw cutting sheet metal... While Soothe2 didn’t magically make the track sound “great”, it did help out (quite a bit) in attenuating the frequencies that were gouging my eyes out and causing my brain to liquify and leak out of my ears... The boom of home “studios” has resulted in me ( and I’m sure many other pro’s) getting far more bad-sounding tracks ( mostly vocal tracks) than I ever did back before everyone was an “engineer” with a “studio” in their basement; in the years before that, when I would get tracks brought in from other pro studios; where in most cases, the tracks were recorded so well to begin with, that usually only a touch of EQ and some moderate compression were all that the tracks really needed. I wouldn’t go as far to say that Soothe is an “instant fix”, because it’s not. If the recording is bad enough, there’s only so much that any processor can do... but it’s a great tool to have and use, particularly when you’re dealing with vocal tracks that were recorded in someone’s kitchen, and through a cheap, brittle sounding condenser mic, that has all the sonic appeal of tossing a handful of ball bearings into the whirring blades of a Cuisinart blender. 😫
Thanks a lot for letting us know about this great plugin. soothe did wonders for some of the bad placed microphones on some saxophones I am currently working on :D Just had to buy it, and the support is excellent too :)
These tools all have their place. If I didn't have MSpectralDynamics already, I would probably consider this. WIth that said, I would still consider it since spectral dynamic compressors are superior to normal multiband DeEssers. I know people like ProDS by FF and the Waves DeEsser but I get better results faster with MSpecDyn. I am considering this plugin for it's quick use and applications and Melda's for surgical work. Thanks for sharing.
Finnaly digital plugins are coming out that use the tech of DSP to do complex stuff analog cant do, as good as hardware comps and deesers are they cant do it over a huge amount of seperate bands like this, definately will look into buying.
I use this plugin a lot. The delta feature only plays the frequencies you are attenuating. This makes it easy to find a particular frequency, kind of like sweeping an eq on Fab in solo mode.It is a great tool to tame down guitar tracks that have frequencies that are overbearing at points in the song that need to be tamed down while not taking away the frequencies you need. I have also it to fix low end issues on a bass. I agree not snake oil. Great video! Great channel!
I have a significant resonant bump in my upper mids when I hit vowel e sounds while singing. I have tried using Waves C6 multi band comp, but it isn't precise enough for my needs. Too much compression on surrounding frequencies other than the resonance. This seems a lot more surgical.
OEKSOUND put out a new version of this gizmo. It's $214.00 clams USD. I drop that kind of coin on a flipping plugin, it ain't gonna be "soothe" around my house for very long. I already own about half of Izotope's product line & about 9 million waves plugins. I'm sure there's something in my arsenal of binary code music production crap that can do whatever the hell soothe does. I'll just keep screwing around with plugins until I find the golden one.
Dont compare THE EDGER from TDR with soothe, they are different tools, Deedger is transient smoother, dehardener, not deharshener as soothe is. Soothe is harshness smoother , automatic dynamic eq working as a complex deharsher mostly. Time domain vs frequency domain, if shortly. If you take TSHSH sound, deedger makes it tSHSH, soothe makes it Tshsh or TFFF or TSSS Let me explain what both plugins do, they combine each other, not replace. Yes it is subtle sometimes , try several instances and you will hear this overdoing, if you still don't here difference, it means you don't need your track to be processed, it's ok. Wide Q works more noticeable than sharp. Test this more. This plugin is very unique and problem solving. Soon more plugins from TDR and OD this year, you can't find similar plugins, because of uniqueness
Ok. I watched much of your content but must have missed those videos. Can you give me the links? Cheers. That said, if you think they deserve their own vid', great, I'm sure it will be interesting, especially if you play Sandstorm through them ;)
If I may ask, how do you get clients from overseas? Any advice and thoughts would be wonderful. I see you're very successful, you have great gear. I'm getting there, I'm somewhat successful and I'm making money but I don't have that same reach to find clients
Soothe detects and can remove unpleasant sounding resonant frequencies. It's a brilliant tool that is not understood by some of the amateurs and losers here
I own some melda plugins. Ended up almost never using them cause i find the interface so complicated and distracting. Other than that , DeEdger by Tdr does what Soothe does and costs 100 euros. Soothe 150? A bit too much. I find DeEdger too expensive too. But better than soothe. Thats a crazy price
The second version is pretty ideal... it's also great as a pre-compressor compressor. I was in two minds with the first one as a respectable buy. Sort of thinking it will save time to get things there quicker but then later have to use something else. Where the second one I'm pretty impressed and confident it's a wise buy.
@@stnepiper3062 Yes you are right. It´s not a so bad thing. I got an iLok dongle too btw. But even the first variation (without dongle), although relatively comfortable...leaves a bad feeling if something will go wrong some day to recover the licenses.
For me it's snake oil as long as it stays at 150 EUR. Way too expensive for an automatic dynamic eq. Soon the market will react and other developers will offer it for less money. I mean, c'mon, that's a half price of a regular DAW..? As a small studio you could even get 3 Reaper licenses. And Soothe simply ducks freq peaks..? Helpful, but no rocket science.
@Fr33 Worker innovation deserves reward. Your comment is irritating. Take that from a hippocrate pirateer. You probably want all your music free too but want others to pay for yours.
speaking of bad ass weirdo shit. i think you misunderstood the delta button. it's not meant to make weird shit, it just shows you the part of the signal that is being cancelled out by the effect alone. but everything else about this video is super convincing. i'm actually asking myself if i can afford this now
Dude why does every video you release say SNAKE OIL? behind you? That is implying every plugin you review is snake oil. I watched one, i dont even remember what it was, but you liked it! i was like, wtf does it say snake oil?
Matt Byron the point is to answer whether or not it's snake oil, since they all list their plugins as "THE ______ THAT YOU NEED TO REACH THE SOUND YOURE LOOKING FOR."
@@mailman2310 i understand the intent but that isnt what he is saying technically. so it then leaves the viewer, could be anyone, to make that call while passing the video. ive watched manyand i understand he doesnt say they are all bad---but based on going past his videos--that is exactly what is appears he is saying. you just see a plugin name and "SNAKE OIL?"---you can't deny that has a certain tilt to it.
@@mailman2310 i mean look at the comment directly below mine, its someone who got the wrong idea. he is using a bad tactic. or unfair at least. its kinda tricky. so i dont follow anymore.
+Anym the series is called snake oil because I want to see if plugins are for real or not. There are a lot of black magic things out there that do nothing good... those are snake oil
In the wild west men claiming to be doctors would pull up their horse cart and start selling drink they claim cures all sorts of health problems it became known as snake oil sellers. Coca Cola was one of them it had cocaine in it at the time.
How does it determine what a harsh frequency is? Isn't it just a multi-band compressor with a fast attack and release to catch those sharp peaks? I'll stick to a multi-band thanks. Snakeoil.
I don't think it's a cheap design. It's clean and simple. Reminds me of Valhalla VST or the Figure mobile app. It's great that plugins that do more than analog solutions don't try to emulate analog gear in their visual design. I find it a bit cheesy when plugins look like analog gear unless they are plugins that emulate an actual piece of analog gear (like the UA stuff).
This is not snake oil. This is an amazing problem solver (as you said) that can save massive amounts of time and effort. However, this is not a specialized tool, this is something that hypothetically can make virtually any/every track more musical, if treated in a subtle and careful way. Finally, "delta" is a pretty common thing on plugins these days--as seen often in Tokyo Dawn's plugins, among others--that simply represents the change in audio post-plugin or what has been taken away/added from/to the original sound by the plugin. If I want to soften the hi hats, for instance, I can click delta and then move the bands around until I have isolated the offending band. I can further adjust and optimize the delta until I am basically hearing the hi hat only as loudly and clearly as possible...then I know I am compressing those sounds I just auditioned via delta and that this is exactly what is being removed by the plugin. I wish every plugin had a delta control so that I could hear exactly what the plugin is changing/affecting.rather than estimating, guessing or fooling myself. It's an objective way to assess the true behavior--always a plus!
Yeah I agree. And the delta was obvious as soon as he pressed it, it was the isolated effected audio that was being processed, a handy reference for sure.
@mailman2310 SEE
Yeah Eric Valentine demos this in his latest video "Love Is Love". He uses it to un-harsh a cymbal crash among other things. Very nice.
No you guys, it's obviously for crazy effects ;p
I used it (Soothe2) recently on a vocal track that was ultra-hyped in the upper mid range and lower hi’s, and which also had excessive sibilance... the client recorded his own vocal, in a 6x6 room (feet, not meters) that was completely untreated and highly reflective; to add to that, he printed the track through heavy compression, which further accentuated sibilance...
It turns out that the client’s hearing is severely attenuated above 2khz, so he was compensating by boosting the frequencies above that to nuclear meltdown levels, in order to hear “presence” and “sparkle”... which resulted not so much in “sparkle”, but more like the ultra-smooth sounds of a chainsaw cutting sheet metal...
While Soothe2 didn’t magically make the track sound “great”, it did help out (quite a bit) in attenuating the frequencies that were gouging my eyes out and causing my brain to liquify and leak out of my ears...
The boom of home “studios” has resulted in me ( and I’m sure many other pro’s) getting far more bad-sounding tracks ( mostly vocal tracks) than I ever did back before everyone was an “engineer” with a “studio” in their basement; in the years before that, when I would get tracks brought in from other pro studios; where in most cases, the tracks were recorded so well to begin with, that usually only a touch of EQ and some moderate compression were all that the tracks really needed.
I wouldn’t go as far to say that Soothe is an “instant fix”, because it’s not. If the recording is bad enough, there’s only so much that any processor can do... but it’s a great tool to have and use, particularly when you’re dealing with vocal tracks that were recorded in someone’s kitchen, and through a cheap, brittle sounding condenser mic, that has all the sonic appeal of tossing a handful of ball bearings into the whirring blades of a Cuisinart blender.
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Dope review! The Delta button seems to be like a 'flip' switch so you can specifically hear which resonant frequencies are being removed.
Thanks a lot for letting us know about this great plugin.
soothe did wonders for some of the bad placed microphones on some saxophones I am currently working on :D
Just had to buy it, and the support is excellent too :)
These tools all have their place. If I didn't have MSpectralDynamics already, I would probably consider this. WIth that said, I would still consider it since spectral dynamic compressors are superior to normal multiband DeEssers. I know people like ProDS by FF and the Waves DeEsser but I get better results faster with MSpecDyn. I am considering this plugin for it's quick use and applications and Melda's for surgical work. Thanks for sharing.
Gonna take a look at soothe2?
Finnaly digital plugins are coming out that use the tech of DSP to do complex stuff analog cant do, as good as hardware comps and deesers are they cant do it over a huge amount of seperate bands like this, definately will look into buying.
I use this plugin a lot. The delta feature only plays the frequencies you are attenuating. This makes it easy to find a particular frequency, kind of like sweeping an eq on Fab in solo mode.It is a great tool to tame down guitar tracks that have frequencies that are overbearing at points in the song that need to be tamed down while not taking away the frequencies you need. I have also it to fix low end issues on a bass. I agree not snake oil. Great video! Great channel!
I agree with the iLok comment. I will not buy any more software that uses iLok.
'Delta' means you are listening to what the plug-in is reducing/subtracting from the audio. Almost like a gain reduction solo mode
What do think of Trackspacer from Waves Factory?
Delta is not a "crazy effect" - it shows what is being processed
I have a significant resonant bump in my upper mids when I hit vowel e sounds while singing. I have tried using Waves C6 multi band comp, but it isn't precise enough for my needs. Too much compression on surrounding frequencies other than the resonance. This seems a lot more surgical.
Well either they've taken your advice or you missed it "Soothe - a dynamic resonance suppressor for mid and high frequencies" on their home page
Thanks
Can someone please explain how spiff is different to a multiband compressor in 'boost' mode, and soothe in 'cut' mode??
OEKSOUND put out a new version of this gizmo. It's $214.00 clams USD. I drop that kind of coin on a flipping plugin, it ain't gonna be "soothe" around my house for very long. I already own about half of Izotope's product line & about 9 million waves plugins. I'm sure there's something in my arsenal of binary code music production crap that can do whatever the hell soothe does. I'll just keep screwing around with plugins until I find the golden one.
Can you please review soothe 2
Well you know if he says it’s not snake oil then it damn well sure has to be good 🤣🤣😂
Hi, you also presented Meldas MSpectral Dynamics...do you thing it can replace Soothe2?
Dont compare THE EDGER from TDR with soothe, they are different tools,
Deedger is transient smoother, dehardener, not deharshener as soothe is.
Soothe is harshness smoother , automatic dynamic eq working as a complex deharsher mostly.
Time domain vs frequency domain, if shortly.
If you take TSHSH sound, deedger makes it tSHSH, soothe makes it Tshsh or TFFF or TSSS
Let me explain what both plugins do, they combine each other, not replace.
Yes it is subtle sometimes , try several instances and you will hear this overdoing, if you still don't here difference, it means you don't need your track to be processed, it's ok. Wide Q works more noticeable than sharp. Test this more. This plugin is very unique and problem solving. Soon more plugins from TDR and OD this year, you can't find similar plugins, because of uniqueness
This device is the real deal. I only hope it were a bit easier on the CPU, but otherwise it's a VIP visitor on the main busses.
I've never seen your large speakers before. Can you do a future vid' on them? Cheers.
+Mark Derv I did already talked about them in a few video's... will do a separate one about them some time...
Ok. I watched much of your content but must have missed those videos. Can you give me the links? Cheers. That said, if you think they deserve their own vid', great, I'm sure it will be interesting, especially if you play Sandstorm through them ;)
If I may ask, how do you get clients from overseas? Any advice and thoughts would be wonderful. I see you're very successful, you have great gear. I'm getting there, I'm somewhat successful and I'm making money but I don't have that same reach to find clients
So..would this take away the need for a de-esser?
Soothe detects and can remove unpleasant sounding resonant frequencies. It's a brilliant tool that is not understood by some of the amateurs and losers here
I own some melda plugins. Ended up almost never using them cause i find the interface so complicated and distracting. Other than that , DeEdger by Tdr does what Soothe does and costs 100 euros. Soothe 150? A bit too much. I find DeEdger too expensive too. But better than soothe. Thats a crazy price
Why don’t you test uad?
6:25 you probably had to use soothe there
How many plugin do we need? I will never purchase another plugin for as long as I live!😊
soothe2 snake oil video?
A "Delta" is the "change" in the dynamic action. You hear the stuff you're removing, in other words.
+Ian Ballard damn! I should have known that! I watch a lot of rocket science video’s in which they talk about Delta-V = change in velocity....
Correct, it solo’s what you have taken away, very handy! I’m using it a lot.
"Soothe" is awesome. Jason Graves is known for using it all the time.
I'm perceiving a Dutch vibe in the way you speak English :) nice review man, quite objective.
+Rafael Graterol i am Dutch in fact!
White Sea Studio cool I noticed at the end of the video...cheers!
The second version is pretty ideal... it's also great as a pre-compressor compressor.
I was in two minds with the first one as a respectable buy.
Sort of thinking it will save time to get things there quicker but then later have to use something else.
Where the second one I'm pretty impressed and confident it's a wise buy.
Noveltech's 'VOCAL ENHANCER' & Melda Production's 'SPECTRAL DYNAMICS’ walked into a bar...
Also, checkout Zynaptiq's 'UNFILTER' and Acon Digital's 'DEFILTER'
I heard it as OopsSound.
This Video is very funny and i like this vst, LOL. I like your channel, but the sound in your studio sounds like a tank.
Meldaproduction is love.
It's using iLok security now. I'm out. What a letdown.
But it's an iLok license manager, not a dongle i think... Right? I can find info only about license manager on their site. Wich is not so bad at all.
@@stnepiper3062 Yes you are right. It´s not a so bad thing. I got an iLok dongle too btw. But even the first variation (without dongle), although relatively comfortable...leaves a bad feeling if something will go wrong some day to recover the licenses.
For me it's snake oil as long as it stays at 150 EUR. Way too expensive for an automatic dynamic eq. Soon the market will react and other developers will offer it for less money. I mean, c'mon, that's a half price of a regular DAW..? As a small studio you could even get 3 Reaper licenses. And Soothe simply ducks freq peaks..? Helpful, but no rocket science.
You actually have no idea how Soothe works
@Fr33 Worker innovation deserves reward. Your comment is irritating. Take that from a hippocrate pirateer. You probably want all your music free too but want others to pay for yours.
That is the best way i ever heard de ruut
Pensado uses it for vocals. 😁
fuck.. i wanna try this on some of my sounds too
+Beats basteln :3 you can make badass wierdo shit with it!
speaking of bad ass weirdo shit. i think you misunderstood the delta button. it's not meant to make weird shit, it just shows you the part of the signal that is being cancelled out by the effect alone.
but everything else about this video is super convincing. i'm actually asking myself if i can afford this now
+Beats basteln :3 hahaha! I actually directly understood it, but that was the first usefull thing that came to mind 😂
great intro!
colour coordinated T-shirt and plug in, it's a winner !
Reading is hard for you it would seem. :D
Dude why does every video you release say SNAKE OIL? behind you? That is implying every plugin you review is snake oil. I watched one, i dont even remember what it was, but you liked it! i was like, wtf does it say snake oil?
Matt Byron the point is to answer whether or not it's snake oil, since they all list their plugins as "THE ______ THAT YOU NEED TO REACH THE SOUND YOURE LOOKING FOR."
@@mailman2310 i understand the intent but that isnt what he is saying technically. so it then leaves the viewer, could be anyone, to make that call while passing the video. ive watched manyand i understand he doesnt say they are all bad---but based on going past his videos--that is exactly what is appears he is saying. you just see a plugin name and "SNAKE OIL?"---you can't deny that has a certain tilt to it.
@@mailman2310 i mean look at the comment directly below mine, its someone who got the wrong idea. he is using a bad tactic. or unfair at least. its kinda tricky. so i dont follow anymore.
why did you name it "snake oil"?
+Anym the series is called snake oil because I want to see if plugins are for real or not. There are a lot of black magic things out there that do nothing good... those are snake oil
In the wild west men claiming to be doctors would pull up their horse cart and start selling drink they claim cures all sorts of health problems it became known as snake oil sellers. Coca Cola was one of them it had cocaine in it at the time.
soothe her?
i hardly know her!
2:20 Dade - Sandstrom .... Most common EDM joke :D :D :D
Every track on youtube is called Sandstorm by Darude ;-)
BF Sale coming up!
How does it determine what a harsh frequency is? Isn't it just a multi-band compressor with a fast attack and release to catch those sharp peaks? I'll stick to a multi-band thanks. Snakeoil.
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lol
I don't like cheap Design..
I don't think it's a cheap design. It's clean and simple. Reminds me of Valhalla VST or the Figure mobile app. It's great that plugins that do more than analog solutions don't try to emulate analog gear in their visual design. I find it a bit cheesy when plugins look like analog gear unless they are plugins that emulate an actual piece of analog gear (like the UA stuff).
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