Why I'm (completely) Out on Michael Penix Jr.
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2024
- Michael Penix Jr. is absolute fools gold. While the Washington Quarterback had a prolific final season in college football, there are major red flags on his film as we approach the 2024 NFL draft. Penix Jr. has some highlight reel level plays, but down in, down out, he is going to struggle to translate at the NFL level. This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 to analyze the Washington Huskies Quarterback Michael Penix Jr. as he prepares for the 2024 NFL draft.
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How are we ranking this year’s quarterbacks? Obviously I’ve only studied up on 2, but for now I’m putting Caleb at 1 (duh) and Penix is going to end up pretty dang low for me.
I disagree, but idk ig we shall see
For me, it’s Williams, Daniels, Maye, Nix, McCarthy, Penix, Rattler, and the rest.
@@Dawg-Bonesame, except I'd flip Penix and McCarthy. They're close enough to where the scheme will be the biggest determining factor, but if I had to play one as a rookie between the two, it would be Penix.
Can you cover Hartman from notre dame 🙏
Since when is a big arm not necessary in the NFL? Also footwork is something that can be worked on and rectified
*_I’m here just in case this video ages like milk (remember the Herbert pre-draft video?)_*
Exactly
Ages into award-winning cheese or into chunky sour cow juice? 🤔
Yep Herbert had arguably the best pure qb numbers for a rookie. Complete opposite of what at least scout's saw.
Herbert was an awful QB prospect. Even if you knew Mario Cristobal was awful like he is. To assume a coach would fuck up a QB that bad is insane. But that's what happened
It most likely won't since most qb prospects do nothing in the league.
As someone that watched nearly every game he played at UW, his decision making could be questioned at times. However, his arm talent is undeniable and he uses leverage like no other passer in this draft. He throws the prettiest, tightest, deep ball spiral, but needs improvement on short/intermediate throws requiring touch. Some team will be very happy if they trade into the lower first round for him.
I think a (if not “the”) big concern is his major injuries in college.
^this. I watched his entire season this year. He wasn’t razor sharp all the time, but the clutch gene is strong with him. Even bigger than master yoda! Special arm to be sure.
IMHO: Pennix relied on WRs that outclassed their defenders (they win jump balls almost every time). The formula was obvious. Won't happen at the next level. Pennix repeatedly scrambled under a not-so-great offensive line and he would run while his great WRs found an opening, then last second made a play. Awesome, but not useful for the NFL.
At the next level, he'll just be sacked. His offense required little recognition of defenses and he showed no high IQ doing that. He has arm talent. He has accuracy, but also has lots of spurts of terrible and he neeeds to read defenses... which wasn't a requirement.
Not expecting much from Pennix in the NFL. I can be wrong and you can mock me if I am. Just one man's opinion.
@@trevorwesterdahl6245'Not so great offensive line'?
Do you mean the Joe Moore Award winning offensive line?
@@trevorwesterdahl6245 who knows if penix can translate to the pros. He has the physical talent and the clutch gene. He’s a leader and a hard worker, having come back from multiple bad knee injuries. I’d be hAppy to give the young man a chance to lead my team. we shall see.
If your this hard on Penix lol you gonna destroy Jayden Daniels 😂🤣😂
Especially since he doesn't know how to slide and he doesn't avoid hard hits.
@@lostnemesis can't slide with that rail thin frame? He's gonna get jacked up quick.
Jayden Daniels will be a much better NFL QB than Penix. You must not have watched many LSU games.
@@lostnemesisWatch pocket presence….
@@alan.s5773 Watching WR film from LSU proves that Jayden Daniels has at least the same amount of issue as Penix rn. He consistently throws late as hell and misses open receivers
I’m going back and judging people who hyped up Zach Wilson & seeing if they’re to be trusted when it comes to quarterback evaluations
Did this clown Alex hype up Zach Wilson?😂
Almost everyone got Zach Wilson wrong. No one is 100% with this stuff.
@@Big.steppa.reese0 People getting Zach Wilson wrong isn't really the indictment. Its the fact that people *KEPT* defending him after a season where its clear what his limitations were and what he wasn't fixing in his 2nd year of tape. Like sure Wilson will have one game where everything comes together and he wouldn't be able to replicate that again for another long stretch.
@@Big.steppa.reese0 Former NFL Scout Daniel Kelly did not like Zach Wilson
@@sp123 Daniel Kelly is a contrarian. You should see some of his past takesA broken clock is right twice a day😂And that’s giving Kelly too much credit
Here before the "what about your Herbert video, Alex?" comments.
What does this mean?
lol, basically he said the same thing to Justin Herbert and the first year of his career he has the greatest rookie QB year
This dude is way off usually unless it’s obvious stuff. Penix has as good a chance as anyone else.
@@Ajt17c He released a video before the 2020 draft saying the same thing about Herbert: great college QB, but his skills and game style doesn't translate to the NFL, people just liked him because of his physical traits and huge arm. In his defense Herbert was a really tamed and limited QB in Oregon, but now we know that it was all coaching and offensive philosophy not that Herbert himself wasn't a capable passer.
@@Akkbar21 not trying to defend him but QBs are really that hard to evaluate, way more than game tape goes in evaluating QBs. There's a reason why most teams with their million dollar scouting teams suck at evaluating QBs. If he was right more than he was wrong he wouldn't be here on UA-cam he would be a senior scout somewhere for a NFL team.
So We’re discrediting a Qb because he’s using His 1st round WRs and pushing the ball like his Coaches scheme requires!? ….😂
did you even watch the video?
Thank you.
I guess we should discredit Odunze as well because too much of his production was from deep passes lol
i think his argument here is "his receivers in the NFL won't have this massive talent gap that his college receivers did"
Well he won't have NFL quality receivers in the NFL, so it's a good point, right?
Arm Talent + Work ethic = Franchise QB.
Lol takes a lot more than that.
So will Levi’s?
Drew Lock says "hi".
Bullshit "arm talent"
Need IQ and processing speed too otherwise youll just be Zach Wilson
I appreciate how straight-up you are with your analyses. No sugar-coating.
Straight up ridiculous
Look at his track record.
I think this is a parody, he said “driving the ball down the field does not work at the next level” at the very start. So either this is a joke or dude is a fool
He maybe can’t extend the plays like other really good qb’s but he can avoid the sack. Against Texas in the semifinal, he repeatedly avoided getting sacked, and one of Texas’ biggest strengths was the D-line. He’s got a great arm, so I think it’s gonna come down to where he gets drafted and his ability to stay healthy. I think he needs to go to an offensive head coach led team.
Dolphins is a perfect fit
His wide receivers bailing him out would be negated if he went to the Seahawks
They allegedly had a decent secondary as well. I was stunned by how he played against Michigan. They must have looked at the Arizona St. tape. Another weird game.
@@TheYobo1016 I knew Michigan was going to win, they just had so much future NFL players and had a bunch of returning guys from the previous year. Plus Michigan built their team to beat Ohio State, and Washington was like Ohio State offensively.
Penix is one of the only QBs in this draft that does his check-downs, which he is perfect at, then turns to lock onto his receiver and throw a DART. It's not just the 70 yard bombs, or how stunningly consistent he is in connecting on them. It's everything else. This guy has been coached up. He can't run to save his grandma's life, but that made him work to be one of the best pocket QBs of this draft. And that will get him drafted at the bottom of the 2nd round or top of the 3rd, simply because of his age and his injury history.
no he'll get drafted there simply cause he aint that good
Bo nix does them well too
@@chandlerrox2684 If you could win the combine, Bo did. What a commanding performance from a day 1 leader and starter in this league.
That's probably the best take on him that I've seen in any of these UA-cam video comments on him.
…and the Michigan game. Probably top of the 2nd though. There’s talk of the Raiders taking him at 13. Not likely, but not impossible either.
I do like that you, literally, ask them to prove you wrong. It's like guaranteeing all predictions wrong or your money back (on a free video).
So, identifying one on one coverage and constantly getting the ball to your best playmakers is now a bad thing? Also has a video titled Caleb Williams (kind of) struggles on film. Caleb struggled to make plays within the structure of the offense, and he takes alot of bad sacks because of it. Williams took 33 sacks this season, Penix took 32 sacks in 5 years as a starting qb. Penix gets the ball out of his hand and gives good players a chance to make a play. He does little things that keep his team out of bad down and distance situations and gives them chances to win games. I'd rather have a guy who does what he is supposed to do to help his team win than a more talented player who performs below expectations trying to play hero ball all the time.
That's a crazy stat. Obviously people see Williams creating and wanna label him as the next Mahomes. But Mahomes has ELITE pocket presence, and will find the RB for a 4 yard gain. Williams on the other hand, misses open guys and takes sacks while directing traffic down field. Obviously he's young and can be coached up, but is Matt Eberflus and Shane Waldron the duo to do it?
He said he lacked touch and decision making at times. Which is true
He was saying that Penix looks to throw it deep to Odunze rather than actually progressing through his reads leading him to miss open receivers. This would be an issue in the NFL because he won't have an Odunze to bail him out on poorly placed deep balls.
This video made no sense. It starts off praising Penix for being able to "make all the throws" and also some throws he's never seen a QB make, for finding holes in places no QB finds holes, and for his willingness to push the ball downfield with the best of them. I thought Rollins was about to anoint him the next CJ Stroud. But then he just went on a negative nacny parade. He actually criticized Penix for always being willing to give Odunze a shot on one-one coverage -- like this is a bad thing? And like it proves that Penix owes his success to Odunze, bu apparently none of Odunze's success was helped by hving Penix deliver the ball to him at the first hint of a crack of daylight. if Penix was Fools Gold, has Rollins figured out what likely happends wwhen a highly talented WR doesnt have a pretty talented QB thrwoing to him? Nothing, thats what happens. The WR talent is wasted, he may still put up good numbers but the offense as a whole is decidedly un-explosive. Happens all the time.
Not to mention something like 40 fumbles for Williams, usually at the worst possible time after he just ignored a wide open guy for an easy first down.
The same guy who said Herbert was a bust😂
he hasen't won shit and has a losing record
@@AlexSmith-rh7mc Williams hasn't won shit and has a much worse record than Penix. You taking Penix over Caleb?
@@AlexSmith-rh7mc I’m so tired of people measuring qb’s talet by this. It’s a team sport. It takes everyone to win. I’m a raider fan, we play him twice a season and let me tell you their record has nothing to do with him. That coaching staff was trash. Herbert is 100% elite with a wack org and wack coaching staff.
Last year you were all on Bryce young nuts.
Bryce was throwing to a #1 target 33 year old slot WR and had one of the worst OL in the NFL
I feel for Bryce, but I didn't understand how people thought he was in anywhere near Stroud in terms of talent. I LOVED Stroud before the draft. [Now, I probably jinxed the poor guy].
Thanks for the upload, Alex!
How do you identify that Washington employs a verticals concept in their offense, then turn around and knock him for "throwing the ball deep too much"? If everyone is running deep then how can you knock him for that?
And yet JJ McCarthy did even less in college and since the season has ended his stock has risen. Also, Bo Nix mostly just distributes the ball with among the lowest air yards in the nation. Is it easier for Nix to learn to throw an accurate deep ball or for Penix to learn to distribute short passes?
Michael penix 9.2 yards per attempt. Bo nix 9.6 yards per attempt with a 77% completion rate. Seems like penix may be the short distributor.
@boljo1213 look up average air yards per attempt and yards after catch.
@@boljo1213my guy that adds in yards after the catch you can avg 10 yards per attempt but throw a bubble screen
@@donleonard4446😂😂
That's actually a very legitimate question. It is not easy to learn either in the pros. Probably more guys have failed by not being able to learn to distribute short passes, but guys without big arms aren't pushed as hard to be #1 QB's. Guys who can only distribute become backup quarterbacks. Guys who can't distribute end up out of the league no matter how big their arms are.
I think it's worth drafting him if he can be in a Jordan Love situation. He's got a lot to learn, but I think he can learn it.
I ain’t gonna lie, I completely disagree with most of this video. When he misses receivers, most of the time he misses on their side, which is a big plus trait that gets lost often. He dominates from the pocket, but definitely is weak if he gets flushed out, however you can win with being dominant from the pocket. I think he’ll need to land in a spot with weapons and at least an average o line, but I believe he can succeed at the NFL level
Dude just created a new statistic “Hole Shot Percentage”
And just as the video ends “if he got drafted to the bears with the twin towers…”
Man goes to ATL with their twin towers! Perfect landing sport and no pressure to succeed year one or even two!
You hyped Zach Wilson. Sit down 😂
Penix with a year behind a Vet could become dangerous tho
He’ll be like 40 by then lmao development isn’t even a considers for him and Bix, they’re as good as they’re gonna get.
@@Sakattack2023penix is 23 right now, plenty of time for him to develop if he stays healthy. Nix is a bit older, but honestly it doesn't really matter since the main thing they need to improve is their mental processing
@@jasoneng3161 3 season ending injuries and being a statue says no. lol bro, you don’t know enough about your body and sports. Please go research. Penix won’t develop much (only way is if he’s in a good SYSTEM with a stud oline)
@@Sakattack2023 bro I obviously know about the injuries, that's why it's a good idea for him to sit behind someone. He can get used to the NFL systems while not taking damage to his body. If he a good coach and a good system, he has a solid chance to be a starter in the league. He's super coachable and by all accounts he's a hard worker. Tf else is he supposed to do? Just retire? It's unlikely he's gonna be a star, but he can be solid in the right situation
@@Sakattack2023 he’ll be 24 this season he can afford to take a year off. Shit 25 was typically when QBs would get their chance to start anyways. The Rams could pick him up to back to learn behind Stafford, or whatever team picks up Kirk Cousins. The biggest problem is there aren’t really many vets to study under.
A great video. I had the same idea on Penix I heard all this hype, but watching him McMillan and Romeo and Polk are all solid weapons and the fast ball point is very apparent!!
So what your telling me is he just needs some good to elite wr an some decent coach's to help train him to become a good qb ? Skol
Name a better pocket passer in this draft than Penix? I'll wait...
JJ
@@franklinfisher497no
@@franklinfisher497lmao nice joke. I think he meant a good pocket passer
@@franklinfisher497 I am a huge Michigan fan and McCarthy is good.. But there is no way that he has better pocket awareness than Penix Jr.
@@franklinfisher497 JJ is one of the best QBs in the draft creating outside the pocket, but he's just ok in between the tackles.
So you think that college receivers who "bail" him out are going to be MORE talented than pro players? The ability to layer in passes in coverage is a remarkably tough thing to do, and if this guy has the vision to spot those opportunities, that is massive. And every clip that you're showing basically shows him not making an absolutely perfect pass, but 90% of passes aren't perfect and require receiver adjustments. I've watched every single play that Mahomes has made over the course of the past 7 years and he is far from perfect. And yet he's considered one of the best that has ever played the game. Additionally, who's to say this guy has to come right out of the gate and start playing? A team could put him behind somebody like Kirk Cousins for a couple years and develop his talents. This seems like it's going to age poorly.
Right! Lmao
"His skillset doesn't translate to the NFL" (proceeds to show a bunch of stuff that NFL QBs do, like trusting their receivers to win 1vs1s on the outside)
Arm strength cant work as a crutch for poor timing in the pros the same way it does in college.
@@samuelault4723no need to explain they don’t understand 😂
Exactly. He throws his receivers open and puts them between the ball and the defender. That’s textbook.
@@astronorthwet636sometimes he does he also throws them into coverage
@@astronorthwet636 Eh. There is a difference with your perception of that to say CJ's college tape and what he was doing with the Texans his first 8 weeks. And CJ was encouraged to grip it and rip it. Took Nico Collins awhile to adjust but the reward was him being a big receiver with major YAC potential.
that "arm strength vs arm talent" bit was quite informative. The 'eye test' showed me something was just ..'off' and I don't think its 'fixable'.
You mean he is black?
Lmao this will be fun to revisit
Love UA-camrs saying a guy that would be an easy top 10 pick if not for injuries doesn't do anything well for the NFL 😂
this aged well
I'd love to hear you and Connor Rogers discuss Penix. I love hearing how people can view a player in very different ways
Great video I really enjoyed watching.
Remember, this is a kid in his early 20s that's already reached levels we'll never see. Agree, but let's give the kid some respect where it's due
According to the yt brain trust, no young man could ever expand his skills? Silly assessment. Lazy work imo. This guy gets it wrong constantly on this channel. All he’s good at is breaking down obvious stuff. His predictions of difficult, uncertain stuff is all over the place. Penix could be a journeyman or a star. This guy doesn’t know.
We're not comparing him to regular everyday idiots watching UA-cam, like ourselves. He's going to the NFL. So pointing out facts, good or bad, isn't disrespectful.
this man wrong. everyone who watched even the worst UW game will tell you that Penix has ELITE accuracy and arm strength. not to mention the great decision-making (in-scheme or outside). so then let’s just rail him for being injured and the things you don’t like about him..?
Just say you didn’t watch the video or Penix’s film… he does not, please educate yourself
4:00 You mean his wrs who don't separate very well, but have good ball skills?
So if Giants get Odunze he can somehow make Jones look good😂
A guy named "Penix" likes hole shots? How could we not have seen this coming
😂
Do realize it's pronounced PEN ix, not PEEN ix? It might have been funny if that was the case but it just makes you look stoopid.
Penix is also injury prone, so I bet the Jets take him.
He was healthy the last 2 years 😉🔥
If it wasn't for Michael's injury history he is without a doubt a top 10 QB. Is he a finished product coming out of Washington ofcourse not but if I'm a smart NFL franchise I take my chances. Sit him a year and work on his anticipation. I absolutely love his arm talent and makes quick decisions in the pocket. Some analysts overthink things and people like this is why a solid prospect like Brock Purdy slides to the 7th round.
Penix loves the game. He's pull it together, especially if he gets to sit for a year or two.
I honestly don’t get all the negatives on Penix. Feels like it’s more related to his age and injury history.. I’m a Michigan guy and very confused why McCarthy is considered better - and I love JJ.. Also, think some of the stuff you’re pointing out is due to the fact that he knew he was playing with odunze. You could say a lot of the same things about Matthew Stafford when he was playing with Calvin Johnson. Some assumed he couldn’t read the defenses because he would force the ball to Johnson, but he just knew that Johnson couldn’t be covered. I see a lot of similarities in Penix n think he’s a much better processor than people realize.
Well said.
99+% of Husky fans watched him all year and still don’t understand this.
I feel like a lot of this is fixable if he comes into the right situation. He has amazing arm talent that could set him apart from others in the league if he gets the mechanics and reading the defense right
I definitely see and agree with the questions about his accuracy and touch over the middle, but I'd be nervous to write this guy off. Not many college QBs show the kind of aptitude and confidence within the pocket like Penix. He's a bit of a throwback in that way. Always stays behind his blockers, doesn't panic or bail on the pocket, and rarely takes sacks. I'll sacrifice some accuracy concerns for a guy who is tough and calm in the midst of chaos.
How do you lead the nation in completions but it’s because your receivers always “bailed” you out? This dude funny man
I actually fully agree. I never got the Penix hype, always thought he was more of a early day 3, late day 2 type of guy.
Great arm strength, good pocket presence, but a mountain of red flags. Old, season ending injuries, inconsistent, spotty accuracy, poor ball placement, no anticipation or touch throws, never throws over the middle, average athlete with no creation ability. And all of that behind one of the best offensive lines in college football with maybe the best WR core.
Maybe he‘ll prove me wrong and looks like a different player in the league but I wouldn’t wanna be the one finding out.
I think he's got great talent but I don't think he's quite built for this game. The wincing and effective 'tapping out' demeanor he had in the National Championship game is scary. I wouldn't want to invest in a QB that can't handle the moment. (Lamar Jackson falls to pieces every playoffs). I actually think he has all the tools but his heart isn't up to it.
He’s 24 that’s not really old. Mahomes has won 3 sb at 28. If penix could even get you too a Super Bowl before 28 that’s not a bust.
I would argue that LSU has the best WR core. Other than that, I completely agree.
@@jofieji5312 hes old for someone just getting drafted
@@ligmaemperor7064 I get that but 24 isn’t old. Not for a qb. Especially a qb who doesn’t really rely on his legs as his main weapon.
My son is a high school qb who sees his future in coaching or scouting. He loves the game and at 16 understands it like a savant. We have a hard time keeping him stimulated. He watches all of your stuff, and we are wondering where you trained or what books or courses prepped you for your film study. Outside of Madden, there are times where we have never heard of the concepts you present as common knowledge in the pro and college game. Any direction you could provide would be great! Our son is very hungry to learn. Thank you, and we love your videos.
he doesn't know ball
Hey Alex! Love the videos and all the thoughts you share! I would love to see an analysis on Bo Nix next!
I think if he goes to the right team he will succeed
A guy on his moms couch knows 😂😂😂
Talent is there but he needs the right system to translate himself into a good QB.
And a fantastic o-line. I don’t think he will do too well otherwise.
isn’t that every quarterback tho?
@@jaredclark173 Not really. Herbert has absolutely crushed his floor having played with 4 different OCs, meh WRs, no real running game and a spotty O-line at the pro level. Even with an OC whose passing offense were dink and dunks/runs on early downs and curls/stick routes that doesn't go past the marker on late passing downs. Mothafucka still tried to make it work and was a reason why the Chargers were competitive in late games when Staley couldn't get shit right. CJ Stroud was not only making Nico Collins and Tank Dell look really good but it made Slowik's wide zone style offense work even when the O-line was tanked the first 7 weeks due to injuries. Some QBs help elevate the existing scheme than what its expected to be.
Bruh these analysts are so sleep on this guy..I think he’s gonna be a beast for whatever team that decides to take a chance.i get the injuries but he’s a beast.
Why’d you change the title Alex?
"Massive tall dudes with huge wingspans who could jump you out of the gym"
Like London and Pitts? Maybe the Falcons watched this video...
I genuinely think that this guy can be a stud, I just love watching him play
6:00 that wasn't a wild shot. That was Penix knowing the defense and that he'd get a PI.
I just got dumber by watching this. Penix is going to be a certified star, he’s an elite passer of the football.
I love that UA-cam offers an outlet for the people dealing with a schizophrenic disorder a platform to express themselves. Good job buddy!
Broooo. As he was going through the vid, all I could think was Jay Cutler and then... He shows the Bears with Alshon and Brandon lmao
If there was a perfect science to the draft, bust wouldn’t exist. Your not gonna get every prospect right that’s why the draft is so fun
@@isaiahwilliams2332 Agreed. But I'm not saying Cutler was a hit or bust. I think he graded out as a decent starting QB. It's sad that everyone these days wants every kid to be the greatest of all time. Let them just play the game.
@@irift3 I commented on the wrong comment lmao someone else was talking foolish but ima get ‘em right
@@isaiahwilliams2332 You're good my dude. I didn't take it badly/personal and your comment is still correct either way lol. Now I'm hearing Bears are trading Fields soon. As a Bears fan, this is gonna be a stomach churning year, for better or worse 🫣
@@irift3 you don’t want Caleb Williams?
Penix is the best QB in this draft and no one knows it yet
I love how honest you are, but I hope Michael can prove you wrong
Honestly wll depend on the franchise that drafts him There are maybe only 10 or so teams i trust not to guarantee fuck up a young qb, and most already have their guy rn.
@@parkercrossland410 This. I'd give Penix the benefit of the doubt if he lands in a team with an offensive coaching staff and a great roster on offense to play to his strengths. But if he lands in a bad org even on day 2, he's cursed.
@@t4d0W Honestly the best possible outcome for him is to be taken as a day 2 pick by Seattle and sit behind Geno before taking the reigns after a year or 2 of they think he's ready. Basically no change in environment and a fanbase that already likes him, plus a team that has gotten good value out of QB's that were not highly regarded before Seattle in Russ and Geno.
Penix at 42 to the Vikings makes so much sense. Sit him behind Kirk for 2 years
Him and the Vikings just seem like a great match
I agree with most of your points, but I think Washington's scheme didn't really give him a chance to show that he can excel in the short to intermediate area. Not enough reps
Disagree with this entire video. Every rookie has skills to work on, but you get drafted for having an elite talent/skill to fall back on. Penix quick release, and arm strength would make him good for teams like the Bucs, or Pittsburgh where they have bigger receivers. You don't have to attack the same situation with the same solution. Penix will be great in the right situation that plays to his strengths and has bigger receivers. He would not be good in a dink and dunk offense, so his success is largely contingent on a matching offense, but how is that different from every other player in the NFL for the most part? Penix with his arm is equivalent to Lamar Jackson with his legs when no one thought could be successful with his brand of football. For my 2 cents you will wind up eating these words in a year, maybe two.
Bro is the only quarterback since Patric Mahomes to have 2 straight 4500 yard seasons, with the past 2 great injury free seasons I think he's gotta shot, 1st person to this since Mahomes
He's shaky as hell when he has to throw off platform or create. He's a really good college player, but I'd be really surprised if he's better than a career backup in the NFL.
You ever coming back to video game football @nykia31? New NCAA this year.
Did you happen to watch the Texas UW game?
Where u been at? U went AWOL
Ha
Yup❤
He’s perfect for the raiders with Adam’s
He wouldn’t beat Aiden out for the starting position
This is going to age like milk hahahahahahaha best pure pocket passer in the class
Penix is going to end up being that one Jameis Winston type backup, where base-level fans are always saying he should replace the starter, but those who know more understand that he’s really just not that good.
“Those who know more”.. get off your high horse, Mr. Clairvoyant.
@OsceolaNola7 bad phrasing but it's a decent comp, idk why people defend their glorious penix to death but those same people will drag caleb williams for painting his nails and being upset on camera (and penix did the 2nd one anyway)
If he goes to a team with a solid O line, he will do great. If he gets pressured, it won't go well.
"why I'm completely out on Warren Moon 2.0"
Fixed it.
I think this film evaluation missed on too much “strengths” and more so saying the Heisman candidate, championship game quarterback, is more so based on luck. Which that would be crazy luck.
Great video. So your saying that the falcons wil score every down.... 😂
Let’s always remember there’s gonna (hopefully) be growth that comes with nfl coaching and playing experience. Of course he could be fools gold, but any prospect can be.
I need this guy to be in the league for multiple years because his name is hilarious.
This video could backfire tremendously, you're bold
I smell another Lamar Jackson take😂😂😂
watching his deep ball makes me love him every time i see it, wishing him the best as a UW fan, just maybe not as a seahawk please
nah penix is curry comin outta davidson, the talent is just insane
Fantastic physical tools but very unpolished. All he needs is some good coaching and he could definitely be a solid NFL QB
So wait, we can sit here and oggle over Anthony Richardson despite his own mountain of red flags, but it’s a hard pass on Penix? Make it make sense.
Anthony Richardson is a massive elite athlete. Penix is a chronically injured qb with average athletic traits. One of those is not like the other.
@@mattl8774 Right, because being an elite athlete is all that matters in evaluating a quarterback. I forgot that part.
@@mattl8774He doesn't have average athletic traits, and was given a clean bill of health at the combine after missing zero game in 2 season at Washington. Meanwhile, the chronically healthy Richards I, just earned himself the "injury prone" label. At least 1 of them will stay in the pocket and avoid contact.
The throw at 4:40 is with an unblocked DL in the pocket with him. Stop seeing what you want to say and try seeing what's there.
'HS' is silly because it's the same number of syllables as 'hole shot' and still harder to say.
Mike by far is the best qb in the draft..this dude has no idea
hater energy
I had a brother who could spout college stats ad nauseum on players and use them to say who’d be great in the NFL. It made me groan. But I’ve said for as long as I can remember that, if you want to know who’s got a real shot, start first with his mechanics and traits and only use statistics maybe as a tiebreaker. Look at Marino. It’s been awhile since I saw his college stats but I believe he had a 1 on his TD-2-INT ratio his senior season. Just looking at that you’d be tempted to say, “Bust!” Well, as Lee Corso might say, “Not so fast my friends!” Marino obviously was one helluva arm talent with a quick release and you had to figure that would help him against NFL DBs. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes had such similar arm strength is was eery: each could throw 62 MPH and 80 yards. Obviously Mahomes has done better but Allen is no slouch and Josh’s story isn’t finished yet. Anyways you can teach a QB to read defenses but you can’t teach him arm strength, and teaching him new mechanics will be tricky at 22.
About halfway into the video right now, and I can't help but think about Russell Wilson a little bit. Russ did this sort of thing all the time in Seattle - didn't like checking the ball down, especially after Marshawn moved on to Oakland, let Tyler Lockett and Doug Baldwin figure out their own routes based on how *they* read their coverage, and preferred to hang back and wait for a deep ball when pressured. Wilson had ultra-rare deep accuracy and was, at his peak, one of the most difficult QBs to corral in NFL history, though. Penix profiles closer to Geno Smith, but Geno can and will check the ball down when necessary, and doesn't take sacks when his deep option isn't there.
Took Geno couple years of sitting down to figure that out though
not even close to russel wilson try again
difference is wilson had much more escapability(and arguably worse pocket presence) than penix
@@fledgendbeats4581 Sorta that but I think he also didn't end up in a situation with the talents and a coaching staff with Waldron to figure things out easy. Its funny because when bad teams fell in love with QBs like Baker and Zach Wilson for their mobility, arm strength but some questionable decision making, Geno been had those traits and been honing his reps for at least a decade.
terrible take, terrible video. i think i might know more than you as a casual college football fan.
This is one of the worst takes ever….. remind me in 3 years after penix goes off.
It's actually a really good take & all you have to do is go watch his game against Michigan top see how he performs against good talent. NFL Talent is better than Michigan's.
I think with time and effort he can develop into a good NFL qb. I think getting him in the 3rd round would be great value.
He sets his feet correctly on the deep stuff and it's elite, but on the short/intermediate throws he often faces the line and chucks it sidearm, reliying on his raw strength. This gets even worse as he moves/throws off platform. He needs an NFL team that coaches this out of him, then his short/intermediate stuff could become elite as well if that happens. A lot of NFL success comes down to where a guy lands. If Mahomes landed in Arizona we'd probably be like "nice guy but not a winner" right now. I like Penix as a prospect but the injury history is also a concern.
10:00 kinda funny because that's basically what happened in essence lol. Drake London and Kyle Pitts are huge catch radius contested catch guys who can win 50/50 balls. Maybe Atlanta is just the right situation for him, we'll see
People with conviction should put money where their mouth is. Take a bet like: I'm willing to donate $1 million to a charity if I'm wrong. When people do that I'll take their words more seriously.
I just found your channel today and I love the film breakdown and explanations to support what your talking about! Keep up the good work and I think Penix will be a great starter in the UFL, I heard the Houston Roughnecks are looking for a QB 👀
Thanks brother!
he’s gonna be 2nd in roty voting but people are gonna think he should’ve won it but he’s gonna have a pretty good year
2nd in ROTY with which bad team who chooses to start him?
5:19-21, an example of a "bad" ball that is thrown perfectly. lol
AlexRollins the Mel Kiper Jr of youtube
Yeah, this guy was also high on Zach Wilson per draft and said he’s the type of QB NFL teams need. LOL
i was hard on your eval of maye, but you're spot on about penix. The national championship game was case no.1 about his weaknesses.