Umberto | Aeon | Tier List & Overview | Idle Champions

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024

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  • @gelert16
    @gelert16 3 місяці тому +4

    Cool featured champions this time. They both get good numbers and have viable niches. Umberto is a little dull since his highest damage potential is time gated, but at least speed potions and background party shenanigans can boost him up faster. Aeon's patron related abilities are cool and potentially a life line for difficult variants. It looks like she'll cycle through Mirt-Vajra-Strahd-Zariel-Elminster repeatedly in that order, which is probably the least interesting way for her to work but offers some consistency at least. It does mean that players who don't have all patrons unlocked will find her kind of useless for weeks at a time, but unlocking patrons should be a main goal of new players anyway.
    Yeah, the flex options are a little lack luster in this event. I agree with your top picks. People who are planning to pay for an extra slot should probably choose Nahara since she is a good speed champion who is not dependent on item levels and has utility for Strahd variants. Deekin, Xander, Walnut, and Knox are all pretty bad to mediocre and are all decently likely to be eventually reworked (but who knows when that could be).

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      It would have been interesting for her to be random between your own unlocks potentially, or make it like Umberto's Investigations where you choose your infiltration each week. Oh well.
      And yeah, slotting a Flex just for the hopes of a future rework certainly doesn't feel good, lol.

  • @bulletproof4177
    @bulletproof4177 3 місяці тому +2

    Another great guide! Thought I was missing something on the investigations taking so long to complete, seems like a weird mechanic. Looks like it's affected by the Diana 50x "bug" though. Getting the expected minute going by every six seconds with speed pots going and no transitions but it's a bit quicker with DIana and area area changes, so maybe there's a way to stack it up in a reasonable amount of time. Your extra highlight on the pre-stack multiplicative items is helpful too =)

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Appreciate it!
      He really is a strange one when it comes to those Investigations, it's true. Feels like even if they wanted to make it a time gated mechanic, it just takes too long to fully max it out. But I still think he's a strong one!

    • @bikkinHUN
      @bikkinHUN Місяць тому

      Umberto's creator must have been inspired by Xerophon.
      "Let's create a champion compared to whom even Xerophon appears as P&P."

  • @huberteichson8304
    @huberteichson8304 3 місяці тому +6

    That cat looks lika royalty. Very fluffy.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      She is indeed a royal floof ball.

    • @dragonblade3200
      @dragonblade3200 3 місяці тому +1

      Behold the Royal Floof. Much Amaze!

  • @starblissed
    @starblissed 3 місяці тому +5

    Glad to see more champs for Birdsong since she's currently my primary DPS. her formation's felt kind of anemic for a while, but the Dukester and these two help fluff her up a bit more

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Fit right in with the Lawful Unaffiliated indeed!

  • @yhnujmik987
    @yhnujmik987 3 місяці тому +2

    Umberto seems to gain investigation stacks faster whilst in a background party. This is certainly true for his second variant. I put a familiar on the 24 hour investigation (reduced to 6 hours), used a large and huge speed potion and switched to some other teams. When i came back about 30 minutes later he was at 150 stacks. In the other variants, a quick out and back, like you'd for Briv stacking, seems to count for 50 minutes or so of investigative time (with large and huge speed pots). I'm pretty sure if you let it go longer more time gets removed (I don't think we'll need to spam switching). Doing the T4 run to 1200 I know I got multiple completions of the 24 hour investigation in less than an hour and a half of real time running it as a background party. Hopefully this is not a bug they fix but intended, because its the only thing making investigations tolerable.

  • @meisterwilbur4520
    @meisterwilbur4520 3 місяці тому +4

    A slight oversight: Since Umberto shares a seat with Black Viper, it doesn't matter what class he is for her ability. Other than that, thanks for the overview. 👍

  • @JesseStutsman
    @JesseStutsman Місяць тому +1

    back for more!, thanks for that, i have some catching up to do

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  Місяць тому +1

      Welcome back! Plenty to sink your teeth into.

    • @JesseStutsman
      @JesseStutsman Місяць тому +1

      @@tyredack i see that lol

  • @thegreat666cid
    @thegreat666cid 3 місяці тому +2

    I picked Srg Knox for the low level gear he as. I being playing almost every day since it came out on playstation 4 and now 5 . My gear level is 50 for every character , gear lvl 3500 for Arkhan and Penelope, average gear lvl 500 ish for the gold and speed champs . I avent put more than 100$ buying a few pass on it since i started playing. Those XXeXX% damage numbers are only reserved for my Penelope only since i focused on her. I wanted to start focusing on abandoning grinding Penelope for gear and go for a debuff/Tank , i noticed he dies fast once the enemies reach him , he doesn't even get to be overwhelmed before he perish. I WANT to focus-gear him but it bothers me is HP is so low . I ave a feeling he should get my one and only health pigment i'm holding to .

  • @alexandersteinmetz6857
    @alexandersteinmetz6857 3 місяці тому +3

    thx for this great roundup!

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      And thanks for checking it out!

  • @VideoGameVillians
    @VideoGameVillians 3 місяці тому +2

    For Umberto I like to use Zorbu, he's a ranger and there are a bunch of rangers/druids that have a high enough DEX to work well with Zorbu who also offer a positional buff

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +2

      I just wish some of those ranger/druidd offered better buffs themselves, but it does make him scale with his pre-stack quite well!

  • @dk1031
    @dk1031 3 місяці тому +2

    Glad to hear Umberto is a decent unit, i'll definitely be investing in him for the handsome mustache alone :]

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +2

      Now we need a selection in the search feature for moustache Champions and make a team based on that.

    • @dk1031
      @dk1031 3 місяці тому +1

      indeed!

  • @DeathlyTired
    @DeathlyTired 3 місяці тому +2

    Aeon's Challenge Accepted should have been scaled to all time Challenges for the selected Patron - providing an additional incentive for engaging with Patron rollover each week if you wanted to build her up, and are looking for something that pprovides long term investment reward. Also, one fewer challenge out of an eventual aggregate of 100s or 1000s would not be an issue that missing one eighth (or more) of the weekly available power to Aeon is, as you touched on here.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      I do like the concept of incentivizing the completion of Challenges, even though I know a lot of people would hate that.

  • @dragonblade3200
    @dragonblade3200 3 місяці тому +3

    Awe fiddlesticks, I went Knox for my third cuz I misremembered the Tier List video he was in. I mean, I only need Nahara, Strongheart, and Vin Ursa now anyways so I'll get them this event regardless, but feels bad man.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +2

      He's better than Xander and Walnut at least! (imo)
      At least you'll get everyone else you need tied to this Event.

    • @dragonblade3200
      @dragonblade3200 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tyredack 100% all about those gains, and those little 1% damage boosts add up.

  • @radix4801
    @radix4801 3 місяці тому +9

    I want to like both these characters, but their abilities are just to *weird* for what's supposed to be an *idle* game. Too much fine tuning to get the good buffs for my taste.

    • @sgising2
      @sgising2 3 місяці тому +2

      Technically Umberto is "set and forget". You just have to forget a long time 😂

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +2

      They almost have to get more technical with just how many Champions are in the game now to not overlap kits, really. Though, that's the great thing of having so many options. Don't like one? Don't use them, plenty of choices. But I feel ya.

  • @Raxele
    @Raxele 3 місяці тому +3

    Wonder if they're ever going to do anything about Xander the placeholder champion. :p Anyways I'm going to work on Walnut, Deekin, and Xander's shinies since they are more likely to be next year's reworked champion.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, something in me tells me they're not going to be looking at Xander any time soon.

  • @freefoodftw
    @freefoodftw 3 місяці тому +2

    Ive asked a couple of times for them to offer the ability to reroll a weekly Patron Challenge to prevent lockouts but they wont do it :(

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      It would be nice. Like they did with Seasons even, just reroll at least 1 Challenge once and make it specifically not selection the Champions in the original at least. *Something*

  • @MrSkipknot
    @MrSkipknot 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm commenting cuz I hear it helps!

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      Appreciate it!

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 3 місяці тому +2

    Honestly, I don't think I like overcomplicated conditional buffs. It feels to me like the issue that Diablo 4 just dealt with which they nicknamed "Damage on Tuesdays". I like that they are trying something new, but I really don't have the effort in an "Idle Game" to look at things like "Oh what patron will this unit be awesome for this week". Let's be honest, I haven't even finished patrons as it is anyway lol.
    Thanks for the awesome video, I think I will slam Freely with event tokens.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +2

      I do think they need to branch out and make more dynamic mechanics like these with the Champion bloat we have to keep things fresh and unique, and while I enjoy them, I can understand people not as well.

  • @StevenMazzie
    @StevenMazzie 3 місяці тому +1

    How do I actually earn and collect event rewards, like Umberto's Mounting Evidence feat, during this event? I can't find it in the faq. Do I need it to come out of one of the earned chests or something?

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      You have to complete the Tiers of their Variants. For that Feat in particular you have to finish Tier 4 of all his Variants, then it will be automatically unlocked.

  • @hochspringer7776
    @hochspringer7776 3 місяці тому +1

    I just started. Xander is Position 5 Champion. And i miss this for 2nd Champs in all Spots. Should i Go for him? If Taking xander last missing will be Spot 12.

    • @xayahblush7532
      @xayahblush7532 3 місяці тому +2

      Nope
      Id rather wait to open a time gate and get briv

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +4

      It really is hard to recommend Xander tbh. He really just isn't good and in a Seat with a few very important Champions. If you're desperate to get your Split the Party going, it's an option, but I still wouldn't recommend personally.

  • @KallinADM
    @KallinADM 3 місяці тому +3

    Heeeyyyy Tyredack!

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Heeeeey back!

  • @sinclairo3349
    @sinclairo3349 3 місяці тому +2

    I was waiting for your umberto breakdown, but ngl I still don't understand it. At least Aeon is simple enough as patron helper.

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Umberto is that level of deceptive in how simple he actually is. Just enough to be confusing. If you have a specific question, you can hit me up here or the discord and we can work on it.
      And yeah, it will be fun to sneak Aeon into those nastier Patron variants.

  • @TelespallaJoe
    @TelespallaJoe 3 місяці тому

    Can someone help me? To do everything I want to use team Absolute Adversaries, I have all of them, which means I'll use Durge as Dps, how can I build the team to arrive fast at him and Wyll?

  • @15kalas15
    @15kalas15 3 місяці тому +1

    Why is Ishi so low? shes the only good dps option I have

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      At the end of the day, she just doesn't scale well and the base kit of most DPS in the game outdo her. I'm hoping she eventually gets a rework!

  • @HerrSchizas
    @HerrSchizas 3 місяці тому +4

    EGBERT

  • @Zwutzke
    @Zwutzke 3 місяці тому +1

    I think i pooped my pants again!

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      Always pooping.

  • @CyaSurprise
    @CyaSurprise 3 місяці тому +1

    Uploaded 38 seconds ago damn

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      You're right on time!

  • @Raxele
    @Raxele 3 місяці тому +1

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      🐐🐐🐐🐐

  • @megaspace-wy9mw
    @megaspace-wy9mw 3 місяці тому +1

    like again

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      No me like you again

  • @阿元-h5j
    @阿元-h5j 3 місяці тому +1

    11:19

  • @Xailion
    @Xailion 3 місяці тому +2

    2 more champs that will sit on the bench sucking up electrum chests for all of eternity

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      I don't think they're quite in that category, but I do think a new debuff DPS Champion will give them the place they deserve in a formation.

  • @idkzero
    @idkzero 3 місяці тому +1

    i still like deekin.. you don't have to be a butthole about it :(

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey, he made it in as an honorable mention!

  • @chaosgyro
    @chaosgyro 3 місяці тому +1

    I saw "Gail Simone" and actually uninstalled the game

    • @tyredack
      @tyredack  3 місяці тому

      I'm not exactly a fan, but not something I'm going to uninstall over. We all draw our lines in different places. Hope you can find your way back or find something else that brings you fun in the times you'd otherwise be playing.