Hey Keith. Love the show. Just discovered it as the ALIEN chord video came up on my recommendations. ALIEN is one of my all-time favorite films. I was really happy to see you talk about Bartok as well, Goldsmith and Bartok are two of my favorite composers and I draw a lot of influence from them. "Music for Stings, Percussion and Celeste" is one of my favorite pieces and "Star Trek The Motion Picture" is probably my favorite film score. I have one tiny nitpick on this video, you forgot to mention its use in ALIEN when Dallas is in the ventilation system. I'm working on adapting a track by a synthwave band--the song itself is layered and repetitive theme and variation--for an art prompt and I'm having fun adapting it more orchestrally. I'm working in Logic Pro using soft synths and orchestral instrument samples. I've been a bit stuck on this project, but discovering your channel this morning has now given me a lot of ideas on how to work through this block. So thank you!
Thanks! Bartok is one of my favorites as well. I'll give that scene a listen - is it the scene when the Alien is closing in on him? That sounds like a fun project. Send a link when it's finished - I'd love to hear it.
@@Keith_Horn Yeah, just checking the film now, it comes in at around 1 hr 12 minutes as it is broadcast on Hulu. Thank you, yeah, I will definitely send you the links to both the original song and my version after the 20th. Thanks again.
A great question and premise for a video! Considering some of his contemporaries were scoring films (such as Prokofiev composing film music for Alexander Nevsky two years after Bartok wrote SPC), it is surprising that Bartok didn't take advantage of the successful film industry. He had a lot of impact on Miklos Rozsa's music (apparently Rozsa learned the piano from his mother who was a classmate of Bartok.) Since Kubrick was able to create such lasting, effective, and impactful films using almost all previously-composed music, I would like to see you address whether or not film directors can do the same with AI-generated music (at least until AI has the ability to compose to picture-locked footage.)
Great points. I didn’t know that about Rozsa! AI and film scoring is a potentially deep subject. I’m cautiously optimistic that AI won’t take too many jobs in film composing. At its highest level, composing for film takes a lot of instinct and decision making based on the experience of being human. AI will never experienced BEING human but it can absolutely fool us into believing that it is.
Bartok’s music has shares many properties with other famous repertoire pieces that have been used (and overused) in the commercial context of movies and TV series. It boils down to one thing: it is dsmn good material. Examples of this include “Zarathustra” of Strauss and Ligeti’s “Atmospheres” in Kubricks Space Odyssey. Similarly Mahler’s “Adagietto” (Death in Venice) and the numerous uses of Gershwins music by Woody Allen. The list is really very long!!
At 0:38 in this clip, ua-cam.com/video/IaiOm7ZIuzA/v-deo.html Indy has some spiders on his back, sounds very reminiscent of Bartoks "night" music.
Pizz clusters!
Hey Keith. Love the show. Just discovered it as the ALIEN chord video came up on my recommendations. ALIEN is one of my all-time favorite films. I was really happy to see you talk about Bartok as well, Goldsmith and Bartok are two of my favorite composers and I draw a lot of influence from them. "Music for Stings, Percussion and Celeste" is one of my favorite pieces and "Star Trek The Motion Picture" is probably my favorite film score.
I have one tiny nitpick on this video, you forgot to mention its use in ALIEN when Dallas is in the ventilation system.
I'm working on adapting a track by a synthwave band--the song itself is layered and repetitive theme and variation--for an art prompt and I'm having fun adapting it more orchestrally. I'm working in Logic Pro using soft synths and orchestral instrument samples.
I've been a bit stuck on this project, but discovering your channel this morning has now given me a lot of ideas on how to work through this block. So thank you!
Thanks! Bartok is one of my favorites as well. I'll give that scene a listen - is it the scene when the Alien is closing in on him?
That sounds like a fun project. Send a link when it's finished - I'd love to hear it.
@@Keith_Horn Yeah, just checking the film now, it comes in at around 1 hr 12 minutes as it is broadcast on Hulu.
Thank you, yeah, I will definitely send you the links to both the original song and my version after the 20th. Thanks again.
A great question and premise for a video! Considering some of his contemporaries were scoring films (such as Prokofiev composing film music for Alexander Nevsky two years after Bartok wrote SPC), it is surprising that Bartok didn't take advantage of the successful film industry. He had a lot of impact on Miklos Rozsa's music (apparently Rozsa learned the piano from his mother who was a classmate of Bartok.) Since Kubrick was able to create such lasting, effective, and impactful films using almost all previously-composed music, I would like to see you address whether or not film directors can do the same with AI-generated music (at least until AI has the ability to compose to picture-locked footage.)
Great points. I didn’t know that about Rozsa! AI and film scoring is a potentially deep subject. I’m cautiously optimistic that AI won’t take too many jobs in film composing. At its highest level, composing for film takes a lot of instinct and decision making based on the experience of being human. AI will never experienced BEING human but it can absolutely fool us into believing that it is.
Love your videos!
Thank you for your support!
Hey Keith - could we get a chord of the week on the chord from Coppola’s Dracula when the title comes up
Oooo I love that score! I’ll revisit. Thanks for the recommendation!
@ oh fantastic! It’s my wife’s favourite. Keep up the great work
I'm ypur new fan! Twice you have connected with the music side of me!
Thanks for watching!
Damn! Bartok was a g e n i o u s !
Agreed!
Bartok’s music has shares many properties with other famous repertoire pieces that have been used (and overused) in the commercial context of movies and TV series. It boils down to one thing: it is dsmn good material.
Examples of this include “Zarathustra” of Strauss and Ligeti’s “Atmospheres” in Kubricks Space Odyssey. Similarly Mahler’s “Adagietto” (Death in Venice) and the numerous uses of Gershwins music by Woody Allen.
The list is really very long!!
You're so right - it is damn good. It really stands the test of time. I think that Ligeti piece is also in The Shining.
@ Yes. In general Kubrick is one of the film directors that knows a lot about music.
thanks guess I need to rewatch The Shining for the 100th time 😅
Such a classic. The whole score is incredible. Most of it is reuse of existing music.
Freud by Goldsmith in 1962 is clearly Bartok inspired
For sure!