I actually saw the movie and she did an amazing job, definitely one of the best performances I’ve seen all year, if it wasn’t for the nom, I would’ve never seen the movie…
This is all ridiculous. Perhaps what should be reviewed is why the same actresses get nominated over and over again and why when an unknown woman gets the nomination the media thinks SHE is the imposter. Is it lobbying if you are not associated with a big studio but if you are it’s not? Shame on the Academy for announcing it was undertaking a review. What purpose does that announcement serve other than to undermine the little guy. If the Academy had any class it would have kept it’s silly review to itself. And shame on the media for targeting this woman.
Her nomination is a clear result of lobbying. This is not to deny her brilliant performance in the movie. Overall, the academy needs to change its rules and allow more nominees.
Viola Davis already has her Oscar. Let someone else have a chance. Viola will still make more movies and I'm sure she will be nominated again in the future.
It’s ridiculous that big-time studios are allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars to campaign and lobby for Oscars on behalf of films like Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar: The Way of Water, while deserving little independent films are deemed to have committed “fraud” when actors like Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Sarah Paulson, Charlize Theron and Cate Blanchett got NO MONEY for promoting this film and embracing a performance they personally loved on their social media platforms. If Andrea Riseborough were to be disqualified, they should also disqualify ALL FILMS that spent ANY MONEY to lobby for the Oscars. The height of hypocrisy to ensure little indie films never see the light of day..
@@DAN-lo7fz I didn’t mention Till but okay sure. One is a biopic and the other one is another white woman playing an alcoholic. The difference between these two basic movies is that people actually talk about Danielle performance throughout award season. And nobody did that for Andrea until when white celebs was paid to tweet the exact same tweets praising her during the Oscar voting. But somehow the one who was praised didn’t get the nomination. I don’t get it.
@@maisom7385 Which CELEB was paid to tweet?? Were Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson paid to tweet?? How much were they paid to tweet?? What is the going market rate for endorsing mediocre films?? You seem to be brewing a scandal in your head that no one else appears to be reporting. Tell us, what’s your source?? Last we heard, the only Oscar campaigns with millions of dollars in PAID ads desperately lobbying for nominations are the ones belonging to Top Gun, Avatar, EEAAO, The Fabelmans, Till and especially The Woman King. To Leslie has next to ZERO dollars in Oscar campaign money. Simply because it couldn’t afford it. Except for the passion of Jane Fonda and other fans who loved the film, had no stake in the game and nothing to personally benefit from embracing the film and its central performance on their social media. But you seem to have conspiracies brewing about how Jane Fonda and the rest of them ACTUALLY POCKETED FRAUDULENT $$$ TO promote this film. I’ll wait for your “FACTS” about all the celebs getting PAID TO TWEET in support of Andrea Riseborough.
The celebrities that lobbied for Andrea did not even watch the movie. They just cut and paste the given comment and posted that on their accounts. That’s why they all have the same wording.
Viola Davis should have been nominated for her magnificent performance in "The Woman King". Her physical, emotional, spiritual preparation were astounding. Viola's mastery of acting was on full display and allowed her to set the pace for the whole cast and crew. I've been watching movies for over 50 years and NO movie EVER got to my soul as "The Woman King" did.
Viola Davis is not so good, she is overrated because she is a black woman (two quota for the same price, hippies from hollywood are very excited to feel having clear conscience). I'm tired of award ceremony become "policy propaganda" and not just the recognization of talent of actress, no matter the sex, the color of skin, or religion of actor/actress
This uproar proves that the awards process is not about merit but rather *financial muscle* (blockbuster films distributed by moneyed studios) or *group entitlement* (certain demographic groups demanding quotas). Shame, shame!
Like miramax lobbying for Gwyneth paltrow to win or miramax lobbying for Shakespeare in love to win over saving private Ryan!!!! Can't believe saving private Ryan didn't win because Harvey's Weinstein lobbying. It's always the young white it girl like Gwyneth who wins
If she was that great why is it now we're hearing about this. No Golden Globe recognition or Critics Choice nomination but suddenly let's give her the Oscar nod?
Lack of funds to campaign/screening thus being shut out by major award giving bodies (GG, CC, SAG, BAFTA). The A-listers were perturbed that such terrific performance will get left in the cold come Oscars time. They mustered a grassroots campaign using social media and it worked shoving the 2 actresses that are presumed to get the 5th slot.
@@jasonscott4366 Apparently, her team took to contacting Academy members directly in efforts to convince them to nominate her. That is the primary violation...or so I've read.
After her surprise nomination for To Leslie, and the shock from those of us who are into the awards, I was able to view this film, she was dynamic, brilliant and phenomenal in this role. Everyone needs to see this little film then you'll know why she rightfully earned this recognition. Now that the academy deemed her nomination worthy and deserved, we can move on and respect the results when the nominations were announced.
@@vicdog4440 ive seen all 3. I am super sad Deadwyler in particular didn't get the nomination but to pin the blame on Andrea isn't fair. Quit frankly if you want to talk about performances that didn't deserve the recognition over Viola and Daniel i think you should look at De Armas and the Williams instead (Also good performances but chaotic and small respectively). All had great performances but i doubt anyone can watch To Leslie and not realize she deserved the nomination just as much as Daniel and Viola.
@@Rollinjoint I love love love Viola from her great scene stealing performance in Doubt to the Woman King. I do think she deserved a nom, but not over Andrea. Kate Winslet discribed this as the best performance she has ever seen and if you watch it i think you will see why too.
The fact that people believed so firmly that we would have 3 WoCs this year but ended up having 4 white actresses and 1 Asian woman. Tell me Hollywood isn’t racist i‘m waiting! Don‘t tell me Viola Davis and Danielle Deadwyler don’t deserve it they have the best performances of the year!
(1) Ana de Armas is not white. (2) How many nominations for WOC are minimally required for people not to cry RACISM?? (3) Did you even watch TO LESLIE to deduce that Andrea Riseborough does NOT deserve her nomination and it’s entirely fraudulent how she got nominated?? (4) If Andrea’s campaign is fraudulent, you imply that Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Sarah Paulson, Charlize Theron and even Cate Blanchett herself (who openly praised Andrea’s performance) are ALL FRAUDS, and possibly racists. (5) if Andrea’s campaign is fraudulent, what about all the studios spending tens of millions of dollars lobbying for Oscars on behalf of Top Gun, Avatar, The Fabelmans and The Woman King??? So it’s acceptable for Yeoh, Williams, Davis, Blanchett and Deadwyler to have paid ad after paid ad after paid ad after paid ad targeting Oscar voters but it’s unacceptable for Jane Fonda and Gwyneth Paltrow to promote TO LESLIE for NO MONEY??? Hypocrites.
It's interesting because all of these A-list celebs did everything they could to get Andrea nominated and now that she has, they may have just put her in even worse of a position had they not said, "VOTE FOR HER!" and instead just say, "GO SEE THE MOVIE!" and let people make that decision themselves. I haven't seen To Leslie but even if it's the best female performance of the year, I feel like it won't be her performance that is memorable anymore, it's going to be all this drama, ultimately hurting her chances of getting an Oscar this season or in future award seasons, because not many people in the US are as familiar with her and only know her name through this award show drama. Interested to see the outcome and what the hell will happen this year, at the award show.
From what I've seen so far those A-lister paising her did not say "vote for her" either only saying that her performance is the most outstanding or the standard "For Your Consideration" which is the standard Oscar campaign. I don't think the 'grassroot' campaign violate anything.
Nah, you shouldn’t say anything until you see it. I was set on Danielle but Andrea’s performance stands by itself regardless of this drama. It’s literally some of the best acting in years and obviously enough people agreed because now she has an Oscar nom. So really all we can do is wait and see.
@@SwimmerPrince I think the point I was trying to make was that there is a big gap of culture & understanding between A-list movie stars, who help make up the Academy voting body, versus the average American who isn't a cinophile, isn't allowed to vote, but is interested enough to hear about the nominations on the news. Because the campaign for Andrea was started by her A-list peers, in the bubble of Hollywood, although the performance may be worthy of the nomination, these A-listers intentionally targeted only the Academy voting body during their voting period, to try to sway enough votes. And it worked. But I'm also saying that I believe that the majority of people in the US are just now finding out about her through this Oscar drama, which I think could hurt her in the long run because the very first association people here are going to have with her name won't necessarily be her performance (because many people haven't seen it) but rather whether or not the nomination/award was given to her by a fair voting body. The whole campaign her peers are doing for her may end up not only hurting her chances of winning, but may also leave an unfavorable taste in the public's mouths for her in the future. Because even if the performance is great, sometimes the drama that happens off-screen outshines the performance.
I agree! Celebrities are considered influencers in their own right and putting a spotlight on a person can and did influence the decision to nominate her as supposed to her being nominated for her performance.
If anything this only increases her chances. People will watch this little seen film now. All this drama is ridiculous. I hated the way the director of Till reacted. Such a spoil sport. It reminds me of Bill Eichner saying go watch Bros if you're not a homophobe after the film flopped. Maybe people just didn't want to watch Billy Eichner.
Oops that kinda backfired didn't it. And let's face it, GIVE Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer a best actress award (the real one, not the supporting one cuz we all know that don't count) already. It's long overdue and you know it.
I'm sure she had a great performance in the movie but so did many actors and actresses in hundreds of movies showing last year and most of them didn't get an Oscar nomination. My opinion is that many of these Hollywood stars probably would not come out in support of her if they did not know her personally. In a way I think it is a good thing for the academy to look into it more closely but I do not think they should cancel her nomination.
I think they should cancel the Oscars completely. It's endless.....Maybe she didn't deserve to be nominated. Look at Leo DiCaprio. He got snubbed so many times but he didn't cry about it. Your supposed to love your acting career and shouldn't be about the awards. geezz
Whiners will always be whiners. For ALL OF THEIR FRIENDS that Jane Fonda, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson, Cate Blanchett, Gwyneth Paltrow and Kate Winslet have in this town, of ALL their friends with contending performances this year they could praise, people assume the ONLY reason why they were embracing Andrea Riseborough was because they know her personally or have some illegitimate gains from doing it. You REALLY think Jane Fonda, at this point in her life and career, cares about endorsing a film she personally despises or has never seen??? Please. These endorsements, in my opinion, are INFINITELY more genuine and authentic than the millions of dollars Top Gun, Avatar and The Woman King spent in Oscar campaign $$$$ to buy Oscars. At least TO LESLIE spent $0 or next to nothing to promote the show.
Gwyneth “Worst Academy Award Recipient EVER” Paltrow pushing for someone to be nominated for an Oscar just how (checks notes) Harvey Weinstein campaigned for her to get an Oscar.
The fact that there was a campaign to get her nominated seems to be the underlying issue. The academy has increased the best movie nominees to 10, maybe it’s time to increase the best actor/actress nominations as well
I’ve come across a few of her movies and I didn’t even search the “cast of “those” movies afterwards, however, I really liked her intense roles in all those movies somehow and thought “she is one damn good actress..absolutely” and only now I’m seeing her name and I’m glad she is in the list! My absolute fav is Cate Blanchet though!!! 2 days ago I finished watching “TAR”….just amazing!!!
Incidentally, Cate Blanchett also had a part in praising the work of Andrea Riseborough in To Leslie. It’s shameful anyone should think this constitutes FRAUD. Is it a crime now for actors to praise performances and films that they DID NOT get paid to promote?? While studios spending tens of millions of dollars campaigning for Oscars are considered “LEGITIMATE”.
This campaign was all about privilege, power and connections. A list, white Hollywood came thru for Andrea but they didn't come thru for actresses of color and they never have. I would not be surprised if she got the most votes for a nomination. Imagine Michelle Yeoh being pushed out for her? one of the best performances of the year. Not even one of the most decorated actresses like Viola Davis could get the same support from her peers. Danielle Deadwyler who was in an equally low budget film couldn't get the support. It really goes to show the systemic racism deep rooted in Hollywood. Also, now ya'll wanna say this is about performance but when it comes to WOC it's about culture. Ya'll wanna take away merit from WOC at every chance.
many black actresses have won oscars before. oh cry me a river. michelle yeoh is the first asian actress to be nominated for best actress EVER, and you dont see us asians whine about andrea being included. what next? make another hashtag saying oscar so white??
@@ianw0ng how many have won for best actress? And Michelle Yeoh being the first Asian actress to receive a nomination should be a big deal and it is! And Who is us Asians? Because I’ve seen people of all races talk about this issue including asians and so what if people make another hashtag to denounce racism in Hollywood? If you don’t want to be a part of it then mind your business!
@@ozoz3444 see past the race. not everything is racist for pete's sake. just because your favourite black actresses dont get nominated this year doesnt mean andrea does not deserve her spot. also, if you want to advance a just cause, pick something more important than an award for movies. 'oscar so white' boycott was the dumbest cause ever, spearheaded by a very priviledged selfserving succubus.
I understand the backlash. Andrea's movie grossed about 25,000. If she's such an amazing actor, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston, Kate Winslet and others should have used their status to get her cast in better movies. Instead, they placed this woman in an elite class of actors who have worked extremely hard to get their careers and to build their relationships. There is a process to all of this but because the process was not airtight, she was able to leapfrog over all of it. Since the movement was successful, but not accepted, there is a real possibility these A list actresses may have ruined Andrea's career bc their actions to elevate, denied others their chance to be nominated within the process. I'm glad the Academy is taking a very very close look at this so it never happens again.
This is embarrassing either way. No one will care about her performance only this controversy. They shouldn't be so desperate for awards. Since she was so great what took them so long to push for her? For the Oscars you have to run a campaign not directly reach out to friends and colleagues but you can reach out directly to help promote the film when it comes out. It says a lot that they didn't do that. The Academy is investigating probably mostly because some major studios are upset and considering how much power they have that doesn't bode well for her future career, even if she wins.
You are hilarious. It’s ok to spend tens of millions of dollars to promote Top Gun, Avatar and The Woman King but not ok to spend $0 to promote To Leslie??? Please. I say ALL POWER to the little films triumphing over the big studio bullies now trying their best to silence this little film and this little powerhouse of a performance.
Welll said!! Why did these Celebrity fans of performance come out and lobby a week before the vote instead of when her movie premiered? The motives speak for themselves. Plus, how can we ignore the FACT that some A-list promoters of To Leslie NEVER even saw it but still posted?!?! Come on!
@@biancalama4781 Because they loved the film and they want to ensure more voters watch it and vote for it at the Oscars!!!! How is that different from the studios of Till, The Fabelmans or The Woman King spending hundreds and thousands of dollars in FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ads to lobby their actresses for Oscar nominations ???? The only difference is, that Andrea Riseborough had NO Oscar For Your Consideration ads because the studio simply couldn’t afford it!!!
@@biancalama4781 The motives speak for themselves indeed. Even Cate Blanchett was promoting Andrea Riseborough. I wonder how much Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett charge for endorsing films they despise.
@@DAN-lo7fz It's the Academy rules not mine. They waited until the Oscar campaign season was dying down to do a last minute push by directly contacting voting members. It was a desperation move. Perhaps the Academy should change their rules to give smaller films a better chance but as it stands they used questionable tactics. They brought this negative attention on themselves.
A big problem I have with this situation is the blatant hypocrisy. If this “grassroots” method was utilized for all underrated and undervalued low budget films, no one would have a problem with it. People keep posting about race, elites, and big budget Hollywood. Don’t you think it’s interesting that as soon as actresses of color (with obvious cinematic talent) start playing by Hollywood’s “rules” that the goal post gets moved again? 🤔 Actresses who have also had their award deserving performances overlooked and told it was just because of campaigns. Awfully funny that the people who have benefited from the system are now rocking your boat to change it so that someone who looks like them can also benefit 🤷♀️.
How is this different than studios putting out “For Your Consideration” ads or an months long Oscar media blitz for a star or movie? Social media is replacing Television, Magazine Ads, and Billboards that’s all. It’s always been about lobbying and PR. The best performance doesn’t always get recognized or win. AR is an amazing actress. It’s a small indie move. If her friends or colleagues want to help create buzz so people see the movie because there is no money for a campaign who cares? I wish all the underdogs had help like this.
They are afraid that she will be a trailblazer for every actress from a low budget studios to get nominated in the years to come and overshadow actresses from big studios like Paramount and MGM which have the luxury to pay for the media to make buzz for them
How many other actors have given great performances in far better performing films, including foreign films, but were deemed “ineligible” for not being best friends with Hollywood A-Listers? This is why no one takes the Oscars seriously anymore, that and the whole culture of traditional celebrities having begun to die out years ago.
Heck, even some of the best performances are dead at the Box Office, but it doesn't take away from how great the work really is. The fact that "To Leslie(2022)" was discovered by the right viewers is actually a blessing, because small films are often snubbed if the hype or demand isn't there, or often times the right cast choice. Can't say for myself to what happened, but yes, it does look fishy, because I mean come-on it's the Oscars, Winners are pre-determined already, which means the people behind the scenes had more than enough time to be picky and choosy.
Everyone assumes that Andrea Riseborough's nomination hurt the chances of Deadwyler and Davis ,how do we know that Davis and Deadwler are now 5 and 6? Maybe their 6 and 7 or 7 and 8 ! There were many good performances this year by actresses ,the 5th spot could belong to Margot Robbie ,Emma Thompson or Olivia Coleman ,how do we know? So the answer is to take Riseborough out for a black actress , which black actress gets the spot and do we then have to replace Michelle Williams , Ana de Armas or Cate Blanchet to make room for the other black actress? Give me a break! Can anyone say WOKE?
While I can understand the backlash to her nomination to a degree, let me play Devil's Advocate: People saying she took a spot from nominating a Person of Color: Michelle Yeoh is nominated in the same category; a Person of Color does not *always* have to mean exclusively a just a Black person (I'm Afro-Latino, BTW). People wondering how was she nominated without a prior Golden Globe or Critics Choice nomination: Oscar nominations happen *nearly every year* without any major prior nominations. And people saying she should have been nominated on merit: no one really saw the movie before she was nominated, so how can you even be certain she didn't deserve to be nominated if you haven't even seen her performance? This majority of the backlash is unnecessary.
Obviously is a shocker, but actors support this nomination (and made it happen) this is why it happened… if she was legitimately voted, she should be nominated.
I'm sorry, no matter how good her performance is and no matter how much she deserves a nomination, no one saw this movie because it was a commercial failure. You cannot nominate someone for a backroom art flick. That's not what these awards are for. These are industry awards not artistic excellence awards.
If you saw that movie, you’d know that she was the only actor in a real movie. And that performance is phenomena!! It’s all those other nominations that are criminal.
It's so sad that the only thing a white actress needs to do is be in a movie at only makes $28,000. While Viola Davis & Danielle Deadwyler were in some of the most powerful roles in 2022. The Woman King opened the doors for future African American women-led action films & well Till speaks for itself. Go watch, rent, & enjoy those two films! They deserve all the accolades possible.
She should be apart of it! She did an amazing job playing role of a woman who has to hit rock bottom to find her way back up. She nailed it! I could totally empathize her character and she made it feel real as ever
Usually the excellent performances are the ones that get nominated. Sometimes it's 'political' or read as a 'career' reward for staying power or a 'sympathy' award (Liz Taylor, who was in the hospital at the time, for "Butterfield 8," a movie she hated, comes to mind) but there are ONLY 5 spots. Everyone who deserves a nom. can't have one.
Andre Riseborough is a brilliant actress and anything BUT elitist. She llhad been on British TV on crime series and she is is versatile and talented . Oblivion was fantastic with her as well.
The other nominations have the movie studios money backing them in campaigns and interviewers and smaller films and actors/actresses don't have that political Hollywood power in their corner. If anything her campaign was the hardest one to achive since she had to do a word of mouth campaign.
I was feeling wierd about "All quiet on western front" being nominated in Best Picture and Best Foreign Film also.. How a movie can be nominated in both best film categories
There’s nothing weird about it 😂 are you are a newbie in Oscar race history? Because Life Is Beautiful, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Parasite, Roma and Amour -all nominated for both category.
Much ado about nothing. Homelessness is on the rise. Securing adequate, affordable shelter is another. Violence against females is everywhere. Access to health care for the poor, middle class and elderly is compromised by the businesses that are profit driven. A power grid that is primarily above ground and vulnerable. But, these very privileged people are concerned about a little gold plated statue.
The internet has been making the Oscar’s obsolete for nearly a decade now. Most people go to the comments or peer reviews rather than big business takes on most media nowadays. They just gotta let go.
I mean, it's clear as day that her nomination happened because of an 11-th hour lobbying done by some 60 elite actresses who just learned about this movie the night before. I'm sure the performance is there and appeals personally to all those supporters. But let's not pretend that this is a "grass root" campaign that is "organic" and let's not pretend that it bumped out 2 equally magnificent performances by 2 black actresses who've been campaigning all year long - and there's actual consensus that *their* work is award worthy.
So you're not making sense !!!! "She bumped out 2 black actresses !" Do you math ,how can 1 actress bump 2 ? Ever take math? Everyone assumes that Andrea Riseborough's nomination hurt the chances of Deadwyler and Davis ,how do we know that Davis and Deadwler are now 5 and 6? Maybe their 6 and 7 or 7 and 8 ! There were many good performances this year by actresses ,the 5th spot could belong to Margot Robbie ,Emma Thompson or Olivia Coleman ,how do we know? So the answer is to take Riseborough out for a black actress , which black actress gets the spot and do we then have to replace Michelle Williams , Ana de Armas or Cate Blanchet to make room for the other black actress? Give me a break! Can anyone say WOKE?
Cate Blanchett had nothing to gain by batting for Andrea. Shes literally the competition. Studios just can't stand the fact that a true grassroots campaign worked. Let's face it if Deadwyler or Viola were white, this would be a nonissue in the same way that Margot Robbie and Jean Smart did not get nominated was a nonissue. This is just big studios race baiting in order to get their way. At the end of the day the best performance doesn't even win or get nominated. Like I'm glad Gloria Grahame and Jessica Chastain have Oscars but not for the films they won for
I thought she did an amazing job in this performance. I was surprised she was NOT nominated for this role… but I understand the problematic issue with lobbying… so… it’s a grey area for sure.
Aaron, As a member of the Academy this is how the nominations are done. There are “For your consideration” billboards all over LA. Till and Davis have billboards on every other block in this city. Their respective studios have spent millions ”lobbying “ for them. No one is complaining about the best supporting actor for “Causeway” who is black and was nominated in the same manner. This organization has been tainted by a racist quota system instituted back in 2018 where only movies with a number of minority representation in front or behind the camera can be nominated.
@@morrisoniice Just because no one saw doesn't mean it's a bad performance. It's still one of the best performance of the year, they market the film but not much because the limited money they had
They should hand out Oscar in each race and gender category and just make it an all year daily show. That way we don’t have to hear people crying every year. Most of the movies always suck.
Oh ffs, Riseborough in To Leslie is *SPECTACULAR!!!* She used her own resources, did grassroots campaign, beg for her independent films to be screened/viewed, and if in the end a bunch of A-listers throw their supports, it is fairplay to her! Not every film has the support of major movie studios! I want Michelle Yeoh to win this year, but undoubtedly Riseborough delivered a tour de force performance too! I say, you go, girl! 🫡
@@DMann2006 The other nominees FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION campaigns was paid by the big producers and backed by giant studios, you potato! Her film is a tiny independent film wasn't screened enough and only earned 20,000$ in Box Office, that's why she went guerrilla by herself, and it paid off! A bunch of A LISTERS saw her movie and lauded her performance! Viola Davis's Woman King made 90 MILLIONS! Danielle Deadwyler was backed by Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Broccoli! They were not nominated not because of Riseborough succeeded, but because Netflix clearly bought Ana de Arma's nomination, and Michelle Williams (backed by Spielberg) cheated into Leading Actress category.
@@DMann2006 She used her money???? When did you read that Andrea Riseborough used her money to get an Oscar???? Did she use her own money to pay Jane Fonda, Gwyneth Paltrow, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson and Cate Blanchett to sing her praises??? Exactly how much does an actress like Jane Fonda charge to endorse a film she doesn’t care about??? And by the way, do you know how much Top Gun: Maverick, Avatar: TWOW, The Fabelmans, The Woman King, even EEAAO, spend on their Oscar campaigns????
@@DMann2006 Do you know how much Oscar campaign $$$$ went into lobbying for an Oscar for Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Michelle Williams, Daniel Deadwyler and Viola Davis??? I say if you want to disqualify one, disqualify them all!!! It’s the height of hypocrisy.
If the public doesn't choose the winners, stop airing it on TV. (Ratings have been declining every year) The movies should be shown in more than a few cities LA/NY and eligibility stops Nov 15th so dec movies don't qualify
For once, some people were impressed by an American movie. That is a rare thing, since most movies produced in the US are made like a copy of all earlier movies. Predictable, boring, moralistic yada yada. The color of a person skin doesn't matter if the film content blows you away.
I'm rooting for Michelle Yeoh and EEAAO. I don't understand why Avatar 2 is up there. Just because JC wasted 13 years on it doesn't make it automatically good cinema, let alone Oscar-worthy. Top Gun Maverick is hardly worthy of the spot too. Both of them are mostly relying on their technical prowess.
Those celebrities who started Campaign was kind of annoying but after watching that movie I realized that she was phenomenal and 💯 deserved that nomination. Only actress who was snubbed is Danielle Deadwyler for her performance in Till, instead of nominating Ana De Armas who played Marilyn Monroe with Cuban Accent.
I understand where the academy is coming from (you have to play by the rules you set forth and want to see what’s up with that) But then again I highly doubt anything will come of this and she’ll get that Oscar anyway, it’s too good of a TV moment to pass up
Andrea Riseborough performance was amazing in the movie. She deserve the nomination and it should not take lobbying for the Academy to recognize this performance. They should've seen it as noteworthy themselves if they were looking for excellence
The controversy is that the nomination came from lobbying but from what I read, the usual way to get nominated is for studios to throw money around (which doesn't seem right to me -- sounds like privilege). Lobbying to me is actually the fair way. But ultimately should it not be about the merits of the performance rather than how the performance gains attention?
Lobbying has been going on for years. Did she deserve to be nominated??? YES Melissa Leo got nominated for frozen river a movie nobody knew about... Javier Bardem in Beautiful is another example. Of course actors in Los Angeles talk to each other all the time about noteworthy performances. This all happened because Viola Davis wasn't nominated. Don't forget that she has won an Oscar.
I actually saw the movie and she did an amazing job, definitely one of the best performances I’ve seen all year, if it wasn’t for the nom, I would’ve never seen the movie…
She's INCREDIBLE in the film.
Wrong color
@@colinthomas867 right color
YES!
This is all ridiculous. Perhaps what should be reviewed is why the same actresses get nominated over and over again and why when an unknown woman gets the nomination the media thinks SHE is the imposter. Is it lobbying if you are not associated with a big studio but if you are it’s not? Shame on the Academy for announcing it was undertaking a review. What purpose does that announcement serve other than to undermine the little guy. If the Academy had any class it would have kept it’s silly review to itself. And shame on the media for targeting this woman.
Totally agree.
Agree
It’s not at all incidental that most of the people whining about unfair voting are the ones who haven’t even bothered to watch TO LESLIE. Sore losers.
Maybe they're getting scared that the big Hollywood studios and producers won't be needed anymore.
I mean, Greg Russell and Bruce Broughton got their Oscar nominations revoked for doing the same thing. Why should this one get a pass?
Her nomination is a clear result of lobbying. This is not to deny her brilliant performance in the movie. Overall, the academy needs to change its rules and allow more nominees.
Lobbying is allowed. Omg the cry babies
Viola Davis already has her Oscar. Let someone else have a chance. Viola will still make more movies and I'm sure she will be nominated again in the future.
@@jasonscott4366 I agree. It has been a norm during awards season. The most notorious about it was Weinstein.
Adding more nominees will dilute the prestigious nature of the awards
It’s ridiculous that big-time studios are allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars to campaign and lobby for Oscars on behalf of films like Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar: The Way of Water, while deserving little independent films are deemed to have committed “fraud” when actors like Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Sarah Paulson, Charlize Theron and Cate Blanchett got NO MONEY for promoting this film and embracing a performance they personally loved on their social media platforms. If Andrea Riseborough were to be disqualified, they should also disqualify ALL FILMS that spent ANY MONEY to lobby for the Oscars. The height of hypocrisy to ensure little indie films never see the light of day..
The Oscars is about campaigning and elite endorsement not entirely on quality of the project. This case is an example of that.
but the movie is great. did you watch it?
@@cristianacevedo178 it was FINE. You get movies like that every year in film festival. Nothing worthy.
@@maisom7385 Really??? That’s exactly what I said about Till!!! You get biopics like that every year. Fine but nothing worthy. Glad we agree.
@@DAN-lo7fz I didn’t mention Till but okay sure. One is a biopic and the other one is another white woman playing an alcoholic. The difference between these two basic movies is that people actually talk about Danielle performance throughout award season. And nobody did that for Andrea until when white celebs was paid to tweet the exact same tweets praising her during the Oscar voting. But somehow the one who was praised didn’t get the nomination. I don’t get it.
@@maisom7385 Which CELEB was paid to tweet?? Were Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson paid to tweet?? How much were they paid to tweet?? What is the going market rate for endorsing mediocre films?? You seem to be brewing a scandal in your head that no one else appears to be reporting. Tell us, what’s your source??
Last we heard, the only Oscar campaigns with millions of dollars in PAID ads desperately lobbying for nominations are the ones belonging to Top Gun, Avatar, EEAAO, The Fabelmans, Till and especially The Woman King. To Leslie has next to ZERO dollars in Oscar campaign money. Simply because it couldn’t afford it. Except for the passion of Jane Fonda and other fans who loved the film, had no stake in the game and nothing to personally benefit from embracing the film and its central performance on their social media. But you seem to have conspiracies brewing about how Jane Fonda and the rest of them ACTUALLY POCKETED FRAUDULENT $$$ TO promote this film.
I’ll wait for your “FACTS” about all the celebs getting PAID TO TWEET in support of Andrea Riseborough.
The celebrities that lobbied for Andrea did not even watch the movie. They just cut and paste the given comment and posted that on their accounts. That’s why they all have the same wording.
Yeah bunch of Hollywood phonies
She was great in the film and deserved the nomination. My personal favorite performance of 2022
elitism! lol
She is just spectacular in it! I want Michelle Yeoh to win, but if it's not her, I want Andrea to win this year!
Viola Davis should have been nominated for her magnificent performance in "The Woman King". Her physical, emotional, spiritual preparation were astounding. Viola's mastery of acting was on full display and allowed her to set the pace for the whole cast and crew. I've been watching movies for over 50 years and NO movie EVER got to my soul as "The Woman King" did.
Viola Davis is not so good, she is overrated because she is a black woman (two quota for the same price, hippies from hollywood are very excited to feel having clear conscience). I'm tired of award ceremony become "policy propaganda" and not just the recognization of talent of actress, no matter the sex, the color of skin, or religion of actor/actress
@@maluekfassi9060 LMAO, be quiet hater
Have you seen To Leslie?
@@maluekfassi9060 nah she’s good
@@maluekfassi9060 You sound jealous.
This uproar proves that the awards process is not about merit but rather *financial muscle* (blockbuster films distributed by moneyed studios) or *group entitlement* (certain demographic groups demanding quotas). Shame, shame!
Like miramax lobbying for Gwyneth paltrow to win or miramax lobbying for Shakespeare in love to win over saving private Ryan!!!! Can't believe saving private Ryan didn't win because Harvey's Weinstein lobbying. It's always the young white it girl like Gwyneth who wins
Exactly!!!! 28,000 in the box office REALLY????? In a Hollywood world that bleeds money, this "nomination" should NOT have happened.
This is just cry babies calling racism over nothing
@@taranjene4453 Sounds like a sarcastic riposte directed at...the AMPAS.
If she was that great why is it now we're hearing about this. No Golden Globe recognition or Critics Choice nomination but suddenly let's give her the Oscar nod?
Those are different voters for those awards, not by fellow actors. And she got some Chicago Critics nomination.
@@etherealtb6021 Why wasn't she nominated by SAG then?
@@PJVids83 because SAG has 80% less voters and are new each year and are all types of voters. Oscars have actors vote on actors, etc.
Not the first time that has happened. In fact this is the 19th time.
Lack of funds to campaign/screening thus being shut out by major award giving bodies (GG, CC, SAG, BAFTA). The A-listers were perturbed that such terrific performance will get left in the cold come Oscars time. They mustered a grassroots campaign using social media and it worked shoving the 2 actresses that are presumed to get the 5th slot.
She is a great actress, well deserved
Her team broke the rules. I'm glad the academy is investigating. But I'm guessing nothing will come out of this.
What rules did they break exactly? Im just hearing a lot of fake outrage
@@jasonscott4366 Apparently, her team took to contacting Academy members directly in efforts to convince them to nominate her. That is the primary violation...or so I've read.
@@AvecPoesie That plus the fact that the official Instagram for the film, directly named the competition, which is strictly prohibited.
After her surprise nomination for To Leslie, and the shock from those of us who are into the awards, I was able to view this film, she was dynamic, brilliant and phenomenal in this role. Everyone needs to see this little film then you'll know why she rightfully earned this recognition. Now that the academy deemed her nomination worthy and deserved, we can move on and respect the results when the nominations were announced.
Have you honestly also seen The Woman King and Till?
And push Viola out of the nomination? PLEASE.
@@vicdog4440 ive seen all 3. I am super sad Deadwyler in particular didn't get the nomination but to pin the blame on Andrea isn't fair. Quit frankly if you want to talk about performances that didn't deserve the recognition over Viola and Daniel i think you should look at De Armas and the Williams instead (Also good performances but chaotic and small respectively). All had great performances but i doubt anyone can watch To Leslie and not realize she deserved the nomination just as much as Daniel and Viola.
@@Rollinjoint I love love love Viola from her great scene stealing performance in Doubt to the Woman King. I do think she deserved a nom, but not over Andrea. Kate Winslet discribed this as the best performance she has ever seen and if you watch it i think you will see why too.
No thanks
The fact that people believed so firmly that we would have 3 WoCs this year but ended up having 4 white actresses and 1 Asian woman. Tell me Hollywood isn’t racist i‘m waiting! Don‘t tell me Viola Davis and Danielle Deadwyler don’t deserve it they have the best performances of the year!
(1) Ana de Armas is not white.
(2) How many nominations for WOC are minimally required for people not to cry RACISM??
(3) Did you even watch TO LESLIE to deduce that Andrea Riseborough does NOT deserve her nomination and it’s entirely fraudulent how she got nominated??
(4) If Andrea’s campaign is fraudulent, you imply that Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet, Sarah Paulson, Charlize Theron and even Cate Blanchett herself (who openly praised Andrea’s performance) are ALL FRAUDS, and possibly racists.
(5) if Andrea’s campaign is fraudulent, what about all the studios spending tens of millions of dollars lobbying for Oscars on behalf of Top Gun, Avatar, The Fabelmans and The Woman King??? So it’s acceptable for Yeoh, Williams, Davis, Blanchett and Deadwyler to have paid ad after paid ad after paid ad after paid ad targeting Oscar voters but it’s unacceptable for Jane Fonda and Gwyneth Paltrow to promote TO LESLIE for NO MONEY???
Hypocrites.
Anna de Armas is not white. Now who's racist?
And no I don't think Viola deserved a nomination for that problematic historical revisionist movie. I'd bump Michelle for Deadwyler though.
It's interesting because all of these A-list celebs did everything they could to get Andrea nominated and now that she has, they may have just put her in even worse of a position had they not said, "VOTE FOR HER!" and instead just say, "GO SEE THE MOVIE!" and let people make that decision themselves. I haven't seen To Leslie but even if it's the best female performance of the year, I feel like it won't be her performance that is memorable anymore, it's going to be all this drama, ultimately hurting her chances of getting an Oscar this season or in future award seasons, because not many people in the US are as familiar with her and only know her name through this award show drama. Interested to see the outcome and what the hell will happen this year, at the award show.
From what I've seen so far those A-lister paising her did not say "vote for her" either only saying that her performance is the most outstanding or the standard "For Your Consideration" which is the standard Oscar campaign. I don't think the 'grassroot' campaign violate anything.
Nah, you shouldn’t say anything until you see it. I was set on Danielle but Andrea’s performance stands by itself regardless of this drama. It’s literally some of the best acting in years and obviously enough people agreed because now she has an Oscar nom. So really all we can do is wait and see.
@@SwimmerPrince I think the point I was trying to make was that there is a big gap of culture & understanding between A-list movie stars, who help make up the Academy voting body, versus the average American who isn't a cinophile, isn't allowed to vote, but is interested enough to hear about the nominations on the news. Because the campaign for Andrea was started by her A-list peers, in the bubble of Hollywood, although the performance may be worthy of the nomination, these A-listers intentionally targeted only the Academy voting body during their voting period, to try to sway enough votes. And it worked. But I'm also saying that I believe that the majority of people in the US are just now finding out about her through this Oscar drama, which I think could hurt her in the long run because the very first association people here are going to have with her name won't necessarily be her performance (because many people haven't seen it) but rather whether or not the nomination/award was given to her by a fair voting body. The whole campaign her peers are doing for her may end up not only hurting her chances of winning, but may also leave an unfavorable taste in the public's mouths for her in the future. Because even if the performance is great, sometimes the drama that happens off-screen outshines the performance.
I agree! Celebrities are considered influencers in their own right and putting a spotlight on a person can and did influence the decision to nominate her as supposed to her being nominated for her performance.
If anything this only increases her chances. People will watch this little seen film now. All this drama is ridiculous. I hated the way the director of Till reacted. Such a spoil sport. It reminds me of Bill Eichner saying go watch Bros if you're not a homophobe after the film flopped. Maybe people just didn't want to watch Billy Eichner.
Andrea should get a nom for ever performance she does. Insanely talented actress
Oops that kinda backfired didn't it. And let's face it, GIVE Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer a best actress award (the real one, not the supporting one cuz we all know that don't count) already. It's long overdue and you know it.
Again, it shouldn't be about 'long overdue'. That's another thing that makes the awards themselves ridiculous.
I'm sure she had a great performance in the movie but so did many actors and actresses in hundreds of movies showing last year and most of them didn't get an Oscar nomination. My opinion is that many of these Hollywood stars probably would not come out in support of her if they did not know her personally. In a way I think it is a good thing for the academy to look into it more closely but I do not think they should cancel her nomination.
I think they should cancel the Oscars completely. It's endless.....Maybe she didn't deserve to be nominated. Look at Leo DiCaprio. He got snubbed so many times but he didn't cry about it. Your supposed to love your acting career and shouldn't be about the awards. geezz
Whiners will always be whiners. For ALL OF THEIR FRIENDS that Jane Fonda, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson, Cate Blanchett, Gwyneth Paltrow and Kate Winslet have in this town, of ALL their friends with contending performances this year they could praise, people assume the ONLY reason why they were embracing Andrea Riseborough was because they know her personally or have some illegitimate gains from doing it. You REALLY think Jane Fonda, at this point in her life and career, cares about endorsing a film she personally despises or has never seen??? Please.
These endorsements, in my opinion, are INFINITELY more genuine and authentic than the millions of dollars Top Gun, Avatar and The Woman King spent in Oscar campaign $$$$ to buy Oscars. At least TO LESLIE spent $0 or next to nothing to promote the show.
Very well said!!!
There is no Black nominees? What gives?
They won't cancel the nomination. The blowback would be too severe.
Gwyneth “Worst Academy Award Recipient EVER” Paltrow pushing for someone to be nominated for an Oscar just how (checks notes) Harvey Weinstein campaigned for her to get an Oscar.
Mia Goth gave one of the best performances of the the in PEARL. Unfortunately she doesn’t hang out with dbags like Gwyneth Paltrow and Edward Norton.
Pearl was mindblowing. One of the most incredible performances BY FAR.
The fact that there was a campaign to get her nominated seems to be the underlying issue.
The academy has increased the best movie nominees to 10, maybe it’s time to increase the best actor/actress nominations as well
I’ve come across a few of her movies and I didn’t even search the “cast of “those” movies afterwards, however, I really liked her intense roles in all those movies somehow and thought “she is one damn good actress..absolutely” and only now I’m seeing her name and I’m glad she is in the list! My absolute fav is Cate Blanchet though!!! 2 days ago I finished watching “TAR”….just amazing!!!
Incidentally, Cate Blanchett also had a part in praising the work of Andrea Riseborough in To Leslie. It’s shameful anyone should think this constitutes FRAUD. Is it a crime now for actors to praise performances and films that they DID NOT get paid to promote?? While studios spending tens of millions of dollars campaigning for Oscars are considered “LEGITIMATE”.
This campaign was all about privilege, power and connections. A list, white Hollywood came thru for Andrea but they didn't come thru for actresses of color and they never have. I would not be surprised if she got the most votes for a nomination. Imagine Michelle Yeoh being pushed out for her? one of the best performances of the year. Not even one of the most decorated actresses like Viola Davis could get the same support from her peers. Danielle Deadwyler who was in an equally low budget film couldn't get the support. It really goes to show the systemic racism deep rooted in Hollywood. Also, now ya'll wanna say this is about performance but when it comes to WOC it's about culture. Ya'll wanna take away merit from WOC at every chance.
many black actresses have won oscars before. oh cry me a river. michelle yeoh is the first asian actress to be nominated for best actress EVER, and you dont see us asians whine about andrea being included. what next? make another hashtag saying oscar so white??
@@ianw0ng how many have won for best actress? And Michelle Yeoh being the first Asian actress to receive a nomination should be a big deal and it is! And Who is us Asians? Because I’ve seen people of all races talk about this issue including asians and so what if people make another hashtag to denounce racism in Hollywood? If you don’t want to be a part of it then mind your business!
@@ozoz3444 see past the race. not everything is racist for pete's sake. just because your favourite black actresses dont get nominated this year doesnt mean andrea does not deserve her spot.
also, if you want to advance a just cause, pick something more important than an award for movies. 'oscar so white' boycott was the dumbest cause ever, spearheaded by a very priviledged selfserving succubus.
I understand the backlash. Andrea's movie grossed about 25,000. If she's such an amazing actor, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston, Kate Winslet and others should have used their status to get her cast in better movies. Instead, they placed this woman in an elite class of actors who have worked extremely hard to get their careers and to build their relationships. There is a process to all of this but because the process was not airtight, she was able to leapfrog over all of it. Since the movement was successful, but not accepted, there is a real possibility these A list actresses may have ruined Andrea's career bc their actions to elevate, denied others their chance to be nominated within the process. I'm glad the Academy is taking a very very close look at this so it never happens again.
This is embarrassing either way. No one will care about her performance only this controversy. They shouldn't be so desperate for awards. Since she was so great what took them so long to push for her? For the Oscars you have to run a campaign not directly reach out to friends and colleagues but you can reach out directly to help promote the film when it comes out. It says a lot that they didn't do that. The Academy is investigating probably mostly because some major studios are upset and considering how much power they have that doesn't bode well for her future career, even if she wins.
You are hilarious. It’s ok to spend tens of millions of dollars to promote Top Gun, Avatar and The Woman King but not ok to spend $0 to promote To Leslie??? Please.
I say ALL POWER to the little films triumphing over the big studio bullies now trying their best to silence this little film and this little powerhouse of a performance.
Welll said!! Why did these Celebrity fans of performance come out and lobby a week before the vote instead of when her movie premiered? The motives speak for themselves. Plus, how can we ignore the FACT that some A-list promoters of To Leslie NEVER even saw it but still posted?!?! Come on!
@@biancalama4781 Because they loved the film and they want to ensure more voters watch it and vote for it at the Oscars!!!! How is that different from the studios of Till, The Fabelmans or The Woman King spending hundreds and thousands of dollars in FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ads to lobby their actresses for Oscar nominations ????
The only difference is, that Andrea Riseborough had NO Oscar For Your Consideration ads because the studio simply couldn’t afford it!!!
@@biancalama4781 The motives speak for themselves indeed. Even Cate Blanchett was promoting Andrea Riseborough. I wonder how much Jane Fonda, Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett charge for endorsing films they despise.
@@DAN-lo7fz It's the Academy rules not mine. They waited until the Oscar campaign season was dying down to do a last minute push by directly contacting voting members. It was a desperation move. Perhaps the Academy should change their rules to give smaller films a better chance but as it stands they used questionable tactics. They brought this negative attention on themselves.
A big problem I have with this situation is the blatant hypocrisy. If this “grassroots” method was utilized for all underrated and undervalued low budget films, no one would have a problem with it. People keep posting about race, elites, and big budget Hollywood. Don’t you think it’s interesting that as soon as actresses of color (with obvious cinematic talent) start playing by Hollywood’s “rules” that the goal post gets moved again? 🤔 Actresses who have also had their award deserving performances overlooked and told it was just because of campaigns. Awfully funny that the people who have benefited from the system are now rocking your boat to change it so that someone who looks like them can also benefit 🤷♀️.
Controversies are good for ratings.
I thought this was about Oscar-so-white. It's still true, in front of,and behind, the camera.
She was missing all throughout the Golden Globes, SAGs, Critics Choice and BAFTAs. But yeah lets give her an Oscar nomination, that makes sense.
Oh please, Ruben Ostlund also missed out those award shows as Best Director and yet there he was in the Best Director Oscar nomination
@@Fl0k5ser plam d’or is enough for him to qualify (Cannes is one of the most prestige film festival )
@@Martinmarshallmargella Really? Huh okay then, still Ostlund was pretty much in not many people's prediction for Best Director anyway
Your comment makes zero sense
@@Lommy9999 K.
Again, this is about power and money!! Big companies want the limelight only!! Sad thought processing on the part of the academy!!!
I don’t care.
I’m just rooting for Everything Everywhere all at once.
Maybe they're getting nervous that big Hollywood studios and producers won't be needed anymore.
She's a brilliant actress remember her in Oblivion
They would've never done this for a black woman or a Mexican woman
I stop watching the Oscar a long time ago.
so what if her movie only did 27k$? if she did so well on that project she deserves that nomination
not everyone dogpiling on andrea when the real enemy is ana de armas
How is this different than studios putting out “For Your Consideration” ads or an months long Oscar media blitz for a star or movie? Social media is replacing Television, Magazine Ads, and Billboards that’s all. It’s always been about lobbying and PR. The best performance doesn’t always get recognized or win. AR is an amazing actress. It’s a small indie move. If her friends or colleagues want to help create buzz so people see the movie because there is no money for a campaign who cares? I wish all the underdogs had help like this.
They are afraid that she will be a trailblazer for every actress from a low budget studios to get nominated in the years to come and overshadow actresses from big studios like Paramount and MGM which have the luxury to pay for the media to make buzz for them
How many other actors have given great performances in far better performing films, including foreign films, but were deemed “ineligible” for not being best friends with Hollywood A-Listers? This is why no one takes the Oscars seriously anymore, that and the whole culture of traditional celebrities having begun to die out years ago.
Heck, even some of the best performances are dead at the Box Office, but it doesn't take away from how great the work really is. The fact that "To Leslie(2022)" was discovered by the right viewers is actually a blessing, because small films are often snubbed if the hype or demand isn't there, or often times the right cast choice. Can't say for myself to what happened, but yes, it does look fishy, because I mean come-on it's the Oscars, Winners are pre-determined already, which means the people behind the scenes had more than enough time to be picky and choosy.
Everyone assumes that Andrea Riseborough's nomination hurt the chances of Deadwyler and Davis ,how do we know that Davis and Deadwler are now 5 and 6? Maybe their 6 and 7 or 7 and 8 ! There were many good performances this year by actresses ,the 5th spot could belong to Margot Robbie ,Emma Thompson or Olivia Coleman ,how do we know? So the answer is to take Riseborough out for a black actress , which black actress gets the spot and do we then have to replace Michelle Williams , Ana de Armas or Cate Blanchet to make room for the other black actress? Give me a break! Can anyone say WOKE?
She definitely deserves that Oscar after watching her ❤❤❤
its unfair.
shangela should be nominated for her brilliant acting in the movie nobody saw.
The Caucasity..... 🤣🤣
While I can understand the backlash to her nomination to a degree, let me play Devil's Advocate:
People saying she took a spot from nominating a Person of Color: Michelle Yeoh is nominated in the same category; a Person of Color does not *always* have to mean exclusively a just a Black person (I'm Afro-Latino, BTW).
People wondering how was she nominated without a prior Golden Globe or Critics Choice nomination: Oscar nominations happen *nearly every year* without any major prior nominations.
And people saying she should have been nominated on merit: no one really saw the movie before she was nominated, so how can you even be certain she didn't deserve to be nominated if you haven't even seen her performance?
This majority of the backlash is unnecessary.
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Also Woman King is highly problematic and that should not be overlooked, regardless of Viola's performance.
The whole thing is a popularity contest. Subjective artistic awards will never make everyone happy
true, it's also a pure business award now. Oscars usually drive more people to the cinemas, to watch these movies, so it's all about money.
Obviously is a shocker, but actors support this nomination (and made it happen) this is why it happened… if she was legitimately voted, she should be nominated.
Get ready for lower TV ratings for the Academy Award ceremony show.
A film that made less than $28K?! 🤦🏾♂️👎🏿🗑
Does that determine if a performance is great or not? You people are not very intelligent.
How about an award for Andrea Fujii. She's the best. We miss you in L.A., Andrea.
And not just a nomination, but the award! She absolutely merits it.
I'm sorry, no matter how good her performance is and no matter how much she deserves a nomination, no one saw this movie because it was a commercial failure.
You cannot nominate someone for a backroom art flick. That's not what these awards are for.
These are industry awards not artistic excellence awards.
If she was that great she wouldn’t have had to cheat.
Her performance was phenomenal
Let's not talk about all the problems with the revisionist history in Woman King.
If you saw that movie, you’d know that she was the only actor in a real movie. And that performance is phenomena!! It’s all those other nominations that are criminal.
It's so sad that the only thing a white actress needs to do is be in a movie at only makes $28,000. While Viola Davis & Danielle Deadwyler were in some of the most powerful roles in 2022. The Woman King opened the doors for future African American women-led action films & well Till speaks for itself. Go watch, rent, & enjoy those two films! They deserve all the accolades possible.
Oh shut up. Great performances are nothing to do with popularity. It’s about the work.
And the snub for Dolly De Leon for best supporting actress
There was no snub for Dolly De Leon. She was always on the bubble for getting a nomination and you know it.
Moonage Daydream deserved to be nominated
Sadie Sink should have been nominated
I’ve never heard of this movie
Why, why why does anyone give a fudge?
She should be apart of it! She did an amazing job playing role of a woman who has to hit rock bottom to find her way back up. She nailed it! I could totally empathize her character and she made it feel real as ever
Andrea is a brilliant actor and deserves the nomination.
I don’t really care about the criticisms of the nominations but I hope either can win besides Ana. She destroyed a celebrity’s legacy.
Usually the excellent performances are the ones that get nominated. Sometimes it's 'political' or read as a 'career' reward for staying power or a 'sympathy' award (Liz Taylor, who was in the hospital at the time, for "Butterfield 8," a movie she hated, comes to mind) but there are ONLY 5 spots. Everyone who deserves a nom. can't have one.
She is a brillant actress. I hope she wins
Andre Riseborough is a brilliant actress and anything BUT elitist. She llhad been on British TV on crime series and she is is versatile and talented . Oblivion was fantastic with her as well.
The other nominations have the movie studios money backing them in campaigns and interviewers and smaller films and actors/actresses don't have that political Hollywood power in their corner. If anything her campaign was the hardest one to achive since she had to do a word of mouth campaign.
How much money a movie makes should not matter when selecting Oscar Nomination.. I am sure she is not going to win so does it really matter.
Danielle Deadwyler was the biggest snub her performance was the best of the year hands down, also all white and the Oscar's need to change.
I was feeling wierd about "All quiet on western front" being nominated in Best Picture and Best Foreign Film also..
How a movie can be nominated in both best film categories
There’s nothing weird about it 😂 are you are a newbie in Oscar race history? Because Life Is Beautiful, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Parasite, Roma and Amour -all nominated for both category.
Parasite won both😊
I’m pretty sure Parasite won both
Much ado about nothing.
Homelessness is on the rise.
Securing adequate, affordable shelter is another.
Violence against females is everywhere.
Access to health care for the poor, middle class and elderly is compromised by the businesses that are profit driven.
A power grid that is primarily above ground and vulnerable.
But, these very privileged people are concerned about a little gold plated statue.
One day women will strive to be recognized solely for their accomplishments rather than because of their chromosomes.
The internet has been making the Oscar’s obsolete for nearly a decade now. Most people go to the comments or peer reviews rather than big business takes on most media nowadays. They just gotta let go.
I mean, it's clear as day that her nomination happened because of an 11-th hour lobbying done by some 60 elite actresses who just learned about this movie the night before. I'm sure the performance is there and appeals personally to all those supporters. But let's not pretend that this is a "grass root" campaign that is "organic" and let's not pretend that it bumped out 2 equally magnificent performances by 2 black actresses who've been campaigning all year long - and there's actual consensus that *their* work is award worthy.
So you're not making sense !!!! "She bumped out 2 black actresses !" Do you math ,how can 1 actress bump 2 ? Ever take math? Everyone assumes that Andrea Riseborough's nomination hurt the chances of Deadwyler and Davis ,how do we know that Davis and Deadwler are now 5 and 6? Maybe their 6 and 7 or 7 and 8 ! There were many good performances this year by actresses ,the 5th spot could belong to Margot Robbie ,Emma Thompson or Olivia Coleman ,how do we know? So the answer is to take Riseborough out for a black actress , which black actress gets the spot and do we then have to replace Michelle Williams , Ana de Armas or Cate Blanchet to make room for the other black actress? Give me a break! Can anyone say WOKE?
Cate Blanchett had nothing to gain by batting for Andrea. Shes literally the competition. Studios just can't stand the fact that a true grassroots campaign worked. Let's face it if Deadwyler or Viola were white, this would be a nonissue in the same way that Margot Robbie and Jean Smart did not get nominated was a nonissue. This is just big studios race baiting in order to get their way. At the end of the day the best performance doesn't even win or get nominated. Like I'm glad Gloria Grahame and Jessica Chastain have Oscars but not for the films they won for
I was waiting for the race card to be played at some point in this video. I love Viola Davis but she isn't God.
Amen
Race card race race card race card. Yawn. That shite is so tired
I thought she did an amazing job in this performance. I was surprised she was NOT nominated for this role… but I understand the problematic issue with lobbying… so… it’s a grey area for sure.
Aaron,
As a member of the Academy this is how the nominations are done. There are “For your consideration”
billboards all over LA. Till and Davis have billboards on every other block in this city. Their respective studios have spent millions ”lobbying “ for them.
No one is complaining about the best supporting actor for “Causeway” who is black and was nominated in the same manner.
This organization has been tainted by a racist quota system instituted
back in 2018 where only movies with a number of minority representation in front or behind the camera can be nominated.
I feel so bad for her. Even if it wasn’t the most popular movie of the year, I’m sure a performance can still be Oscar worthy!
I've seen it and I can say that Andrea gave one of the best performance of the year
@@Fl0k5ser the performance of the year that no one ever saw. I can say the same for my dog who can do tricks. Market the movie first.
@@morrisoniice Just because no one saw doesn't mean it's a bad performance. It's still one of the best performance of the year, they market the film but not much because the limited money they had
George Santos has already won the Best Actress Oscar.
They should hand out Oscar in each race and gender category and just make it an all year daily show. That way we don’t have to hear people crying every year. Most of the movies always suck.
Oh ffs, Riseborough in To Leslie is *SPECTACULAR!!!* She used her own resources, did grassroots campaign, beg for her independent films to be screened/viewed, and if in the end a bunch of A-listers throw their supports, it is fairplay to her! Not every film has the support of major movie studios!
I want Michelle Yeoh to win this year, but undoubtedly Riseborough delivered a tour de force performance too! I say, you go, girl! 🫡
That's exactly what's wrong. She used her money and resources (that other nominee do not have) - to gain an advantage. Over Viola Davis? Come on.
@@DMann2006 The other nominees FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION campaigns was paid by the big producers and backed by giant studios, you potato! Her film is a tiny independent film wasn't screened enough and only earned 20,000$ in Box Office, that's why she went guerrilla by herself, and it paid off! A bunch of A LISTERS saw her movie and lauded her performance!
Viola Davis's Woman King made 90 MILLIONS! Danielle Deadwyler was backed by Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Broccoli! They were not nominated not because of Riseborough succeeded, but because Netflix clearly bought Ana de Arma's nomination, and Michelle Williams (backed by Spielberg) cheated into Leading Actress category.
@@DMann2006 She used her money???? When did you read that Andrea Riseborough used her money to get an Oscar???? Did she use her own money to pay Jane Fonda, Gwyneth Paltrow, Charlize Theron, Sarah Paulson and Cate Blanchett to sing her praises??? Exactly how much does an actress like Jane Fonda charge to endorse a film she doesn’t care about???
And by the way, do you know how much Top Gun: Maverick, Avatar: TWOW, The Fabelmans, The Woman King, even EEAAO, spend on their Oscar campaigns????
@@DMann2006 Do you know how much Oscar campaign $$$$ went into lobbying for an Oscar for Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Michelle Williams, Daniel Deadwyler and Viola Davis???
I say if you want to disqualify one, disqualify them all!!! It’s the height of hypocrisy.
If the public doesn't choose the winners, stop airing it on TV. (Ratings have been declining every year)
The movies should be shown in more than a few cities LA/NY and eligibility stops Nov 15th so dec movies don't qualify
I thought the oscar awards were a joke? Why is this still relevant?
SHE GAVE THE BEST PERFORMANCE OF 2022 PERIOD
I don’t think actors should rely on other actors to campaign them for an Oscar nomination but I don’t think that’s the way to do it
I think most people are more worried about their bank accounts than more celebrity drama . 🙄🙄
For once, some people were impressed by an American movie. That is a rare thing, since most movies produced in the US are made like a copy of all earlier movies. Predictable, boring, moralistic yada yada. The color of a person skin doesn't matter if the film content blows you away.
I'm rooting for Michelle Yeoh and EEAAO.
I don't understand why Avatar 2 is up there. Just because JC wasted 13 years on it doesn't make it automatically good cinema, let alone Oscar-worthy.
Top Gun Maverick is hardly worthy of the spot too. Both of them are mostly relying on their technical prowess.
1:43 Well there you go. Maybe this actress' performance was better than the "snubbed" ones?
Regardless of how it plays out I will put on my boots and go to work in the morning.
Those celebrities who started Campaign was kind of annoying but after watching that movie I realized that she was phenomenal and 💯 deserved that nomination. Only actress who was snubbed is Danielle Deadwyler for her performance in Till, instead of nominating Ana De Armas who played Marilyn Monroe with Cuban Accent.
I understand where the academy is coming from (you have to play by the rules you set forth and want to see what’s up with that)
But then again I highly doubt anything will come of this and she’ll get that Oscar anyway, it’s too good of a TV moment to pass up
Andrea Riseborough performance was amazing in the movie. She deserve the nomination and it should not take lobbying for the Academy to recognize this performance. They should've seen it as noteworthy themselves if they were looking for excellence
People are just DESPERATE for the awards. They would do anything. It’s embarrassing.
The controversy is that the nomination came from lobbying but from what I read, the usual way to get nominated is for studios to throw money around (which doesn't seem right to me -- sounds like privilege). Lobbying to me is actually the fair way. But ultimately should it not be about the merits of the performance rather than how the performance gains attention?
Nominations should be based on performance not ticket sales.
Not sure how she Bested Viola Davis in Woman King??? Absolutely not.
Lobbying has been going on for years. Did she deserve to be nominated??? YES
Melissa Leo got nominated for frozen river a movie nobody knew about... Javier Bardem in Beautiful is another example.
Of course actors in Los Angeles talk to each other all the time about noteworthy performances.
This all happened because Viola Davis wasn't nominated. Don't forget that she has won an Oscar.
I think they need to get rid of the Oscars altogether.